Week 1 Monday Morning Fallout

We just have so many players, and it's fun to watch how you do his thing and pretty shut some haters up. So it's nice to be on a really good team.

From the Chris Westling podcast Studio, it's around the NFL the Monday, the Monday Show for the first time ever, the day after the Big Day. Dan Hans is here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler and when you want to launch a new property and you need the charisma that will just send you through the roof and beyond you book Nick Bosa soundbites.

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I will say this though, because I love what he said, and I like that he just owns the fact that he's on a well coached, great team, and that's much more enjoyable than other scenarios. But how many haters like who is hating on brock Pertty? I think there was a lot of wait and see on brock party.

I see what he's saying. He was saying this doubt there's a little bit like this idea, who the seventh round pick, small sample size blows out his elbow. Kind of a little bit of a Cinderella story right now, reality might hit this year, and he looked exactly the same, right.

I just see doubters, haters like I mean it's a number. He's a likable care he's a bosa. Of course, like half his sentences have it hate.

All right, that's you're a hater. I'm a hater. No, that guy's a hater.

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Greg No, I think that wou so else said. I can't tap it.

So all right, we're going to go through everything. Let's start with injuries. It's injury corner. It's a little of a bummer way to start, but it's a reality coming out of Sundays.

Mondays are what's that?

That's what you're the pieces we're picking up on Monday when I don't know why we've waited a decade to start doing Monday shows. But then you get to Tuesday, it's like eight hundred and sixty news items because it's all follow up on injuries and we're doing it now.

Well, we we've corrected a loophole in the system here in year eleven. Let's start with the Baltimore.

RAVEI well, that's a great point.

Mark wo not looking good for their star safety Marcus Williams, who is in the second year of a five year, seventy million dollar contract. They hit the field on Sunday thinking he's going to be a key contributor all season, and now he has a pectoral injury. He might have to undergo surgery on the on the issue, and if he does, John Harboss said, Williams is consulting a doctor to weigh his options. If he does, it's it could be a season under but not certainly. But either way, he's on the shelf.

Gregor, he made such a difference last year when he was on the field, and this team just seems cursed by injuries. They're already a little thin in the secondary, but the whole idea of Okay, we're gonna get Marlon Humphrey back and then our cornerback position is not that thin. And especially it doesn't matter because we have such great safety play quarterbacks really by Marcus Williams more than anyone.

And they were a different team last year when he wasn't on the field.

Yeah, I mean, you still have Kyle Hamilton, but Geno Stone now steps in at the other safety spot.

I don't know the Ravens.

I feel like they probably could have been three or four wins better in playoff trips. If you take away the injuries the last couple of seasons, I mean, it's just been, like to your point, Greg, like one of the most banged up AFC teams in a rough and tumble division.

Left tackle Ronnie Stanley, who's dealt with his own injury issues in recent years. He suffered as sprain knee. He's weak to week, as is center Tyler Linderbaum, who suffered an ankle in also labeled week to week. So but also, you know what you gave Lamar all that money. M's he's the star of the team.

See what you're doing well.

I'm just saying because sometimes it feels like you could sense the excuses being set up if the Ravens don't play well. Take quarterback, take your team through a stormy, choppy waters until you can get hopefully healthy. We shall see. They didn't do a lot on offense in Week one, but enough to win. Right.

They get the Bengals this week, which is like an immediately it's immedia big matchup. It's an immediate big game here, and you don't get JK doamons back. I'm not that worried about missing JK Dumbs, although he was the one chance they had to be special there. I'd be very worried about Marcus Williams being out all season and missing too maybe the best two parts of your offensive line.

The reason why the Bengals are dangerous is because they got waxed by the Browns on Sunday. And the Browns feel mighty good about themselves, but they're not feeling good about Jack Conklin, the right tackle. He's out for the season. A bad one. Mark at acl N MCL tear instantly, that's operating table. That's see you next summer. Tough setback for a very good tackle.

Yeah, all pro level has been an anchor for the league's best or second best. Lie right up there with the Eagles. I am interested though, because their fourth round pick, Dwan Jones out of Ohio State played more snaps I believe than any offensive lineman in the preseason and looked pretty good and looks like kind of a find. So it's you know, it's not like you're falling off a

I love looking at that guy. Dewan John He is massive, like a planet out there.

But it's a shame for conclic Conklin's been around long enough that he had another season ending uh you know injury back in the day. Got healthy enough to where he just signed a new contract with the Brown so he secured financially.

But that that's a rough blow for him.

Who was it was a Wiatt teller. Somebody had the pancake of the week. Yeah that was one guards downfield and pancake the defender. That's that's that's some man stuff.

It's a concern because that's what makes the Brown special is the guys up front.

The Eagles, they had a blessed life last year. They kind of struggled and battled and got past the Patriots just barely. A little bit on that later on Sunday. And now they are dealing with some injury issues. Linebacker Nakobe Dean out multiple weeks with a foot injury.

Starting linebacker Gregory I am not overly concerned about this.

I'm uh a regular listener of the Birds.

I'm not concerned about any injury.

I mean, no, I'm concerned about Nakobe Dean personally, but his the whole idea of Nikobe.

Dan's been a little more a little.

Cold about JK. Dobbins. To be quite honest, I did so.

Too when about four seconds it was about three minutes ago, like it doesn't you know it's fine about Jaca Dobbins, Like that guy is like torn up with an Achilles blow.

I wasn't saying that whatsoever.

I want you to go for anything I said.

I said he was the one night that it was like maybe the most of each him. Okay, go back and listen, allow it to be.

It might be.

Okay, I will go back and listen to this podcast what we were saying about.

It's been a while.

He's just been more of an idea than a player that you've actually seen be a difference maker. And uh as a regular listener of the Birds with Friends podcasts, but Wolf Sack Berban one of my favorites.

I mean, Christian Ellis, this third year player.

I have a feeling it's shown a little more as a player and he'll step into the starting line. So I think they have a really good backup who might be even better than a cop.

Only could be as generous with your opposing podcast plugs as you are with actual humans on them.

It's not an opposing plot team. If it's an Eagle specific podcast.

They're all enemies to me. Better news injury news. Anthony Richardson he missed the end of the loss to the Jaguars with what was knee seen as a or diagnosed as a knee injury. It's a knee bruise, according to Tom Pellisero uh and according to Pealsero, he will be fine.

There's a lot of learning you have to do, and it's just every week learning and getting better. And the only thing I told him after the game was a great, you know, great game. He made some some unbelievable plays, but just try to protect yourself.

You know, these the.

Hits add up in this league, and they're a little different than in college so I just told him to protect himself, and you know, I'm excited to his career unfold. I think he's gonna be a great player, and obviously we'll see him again later in the season, but that was my only message to him, really, just put yourself as a long season and I think think he's gonna be great player.

Allow me to read a little bit too much into that for it to rise to the point where Trevor sought him out and said that to him, Like you can imagine Lawrence like watching him from the Sielin just taking nasty licks. And you see the same thing with Justin Fields, another guy that uses his legs and is kind of fearless in terms of his abilities with his

Yeah, and part of it is on you know, the scheme and Shane Stikeen, but it's like that's what makes him special. And a whole league is built around protecting quarterbacks to the point where like a lot of defenders think that there's too much emphasis on that, But then

Read on his long term durability.

It's like you've got these iron men quarterbacks that no matter what, they play every week, and then if you're gonna go do this with your body, it's like a bit of a there's a bit of a variable factor there.

Now, I want to circle back to what Dan said about Tony Richardson as a Jets fan. Can you think of a reason why that wouldn't be a great idea? You know, how about the legendary fullback Tony Richardson's very good sixteen years in the NFL, mostly for the Chiefs, but he did have a few with the Jets there, So that guy he already kind of took Tony Richardson.

And then I also wanted to.

So you know, you worry about erasing that the fullback. I understand that because it's already tough for a.

Fullback to have a niche and the league had two Cam Newton's for a while, right, And what do you know about the second one?

Well, no, he was overshadowed. It's no doubt.

I just mean that that there's already been a football Tony Richards. I also am curious, and I know we want this show to be, you know, fast moving, and I'm turning into a hank attack.

You want to share your exciting hot.

Take about the facial structure of Trevor Lawrence with the audience.

Sure, I think if you want to bring his face up again, I think Trevor is, in many ways esthetically a beautiful man, hyper masculine, symmetrical, symmetrical is great jawline, cheekbones, very strong nose, character nose. But there's there's almost like a strange lack of humanity to his face, like he's the creation and ai creation of what a young franchise quarterback looks like. And maybe there's a little something jarring with this long flowing hair, the blonde, dirty blonde mane.

I think it's like in those, you know, certain fantasy type stories where like a statue comes to life that's he looks like he's perfectly carved, and there's no argument against his higher quality.

Looks like is what you'd probably design in many ways beauty. But he looks designed kind of But also I'm trying to compliment him.

And who looked in the was Adonnas? Who looked in the lake and froze the old myth, the old Greek myth? Anybody the egotistical one. I believe there's an it Adonnas. Hey, let's work on that one. Eric Le's get a little help on that. But anyway, shout out to Trevor Lawrence for giving some advice to the kid. And hopefully we get seventeen games of Anthony Richardson and he finishes them all one more. J. C. Horn. Gregie Panthers missed a

And paper, he's one of their best players and their defense is going to have to lead them and he just cannot stay on the field. It's very frustrating and after watching the Panthers like, you're gonna want reasons to watch the Panthers early this season, and J. C.

Horn has got to be one of them.

Let's let's ask the as we transition out of the injury seg and let's ask the listeners we need some type of sting for this segment or this section which is flotsam and jetsam and flotsam and jetsam or is it flotsam and jetsam and jetsam and flotsam.

I think it's flotsam and jetsam, all right.

And this sounds better that way.

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Yeah, I do have some breaking news if we could do go real quick.

Okay, oh wow, he's.

Got he's only a one thumb technically.

No, no, absolutely, it was narcissus.

Narcissis the water fell in love with his own reflects.

Narcissism died, Yeah, died at the spring. So to the narcissism.

If your narcissistic out there sort of floating around society, look out a.

Little on the nose there, Greek mythologist.

Outures root word. But yeah, yeah, so and Adonnas was just likes, was more like just adas physically like Adonas was the mortal lover of the goddess Aphrodite.

Wow, kind of a Trevor Lawrence of his time.

Good get Wait, so if you are getting aphrodite as a mortal you're doing there's some things you got working in here. Absolutely, there's no question put it that way. Yeah, it can be assumed. You, like Trevor Lawrence, you've probably been set up very well in your life, all right. Flats of the Jetsam Jetsam, Flatsam the Giants Cowboys ga again.

Of taking Daniel out because he took a pretty big beating game.

Yeah.

Now, now I was gonna let him see it through there, just until that last series, try to something positive going down. We didn't have much going Uh. Just wanted to try to get a you know, a positive drive and try to punch the ball into the end zone.

But that didn't happen. Yeah, I saw your tweet like that, Greg, they put so much care, why don't you say it?

Well, they won't play him in the preseason, you like, can't get hurt in the preseason. Can't play a snap in the preseason, and then they just got him out there in these blowouts.

Yeah, it's funny. The difference a year makes mark because last year Brian Dable could do no wrong and you just see how this season now starts and he's under the spotlight for having the team in the eyes of people on the outside, not prepared, embarrassed, and then not doing right by his quarterback and not protecting him. It was a mistake, but that's a very coach aspect outlook

Well, that fortieth did nothing is where it really knocks a lot of teams out.

Not a lot of teams show last.

Year, Bill Barnwell, our buddy Giants on Sunday Night against Cowboys, negative twenty three point eight offensive EPA, the Broncos game from the COVID year when Kendall Hinton, remember that played quarterback against the Saints. He was like a gunner or something. Negative twenty three point seven offensive EPA. And one more from Katie Sharp, who's awesome on baseball analytics, but I guess she's a Giants fan as well. Giants forty ninhing loss on Sunday is their worst shutout loss at home

I can think of a year when the Browns beat the Steelers in Week one nineteen eighty nine, fifty one to nothing, and that Steelers team went on to make the playoffs as one of the more interesting teams I've ever watched, Like they started off terribly and grew. And if you're the coach of the Year, Brian Daball, like cool you last year things were kind of rolling and it was a new vibe and like Daniel Jones looked good, but it's like you've been handed like a as absolute

Him out of the way in one game. It's a good way to look at Its not dotting it week after week. Oh we either lost the sack record seven to nothing in week two. It's like you got him out of the way.

I'd like to think though, for over forty million dollars at quarterback, a one hundred and four yard two interception, seven tech game is just not on the table, Like there's a certain level of quarterback where that game just wouldn't happen on any level.

Now, you're just rolling in it. You're a pig rolling in poop now because she didn't say that Joe Burrow yesterday and he's the highest paid player and they has three of the sport.

I'm just a pig and poop.

I'm more like, yeah, we're like my little tourtois now.

Yes, Giants fans are saying, oh my god, how about Gino Smith, your little hero. He struggled with the rest of the Seahawks against the Rams. Do you want to tee this one up.

Well, let's everyone's already probably heard this. Everyone's had their little fun of the miked up Gino Smith, uh, you know, reacting when Aaron Donald's coming at him.

Pressure coming from Aaron Donald.

Okay, And I'm glad everyone had their fun there. But I'm also glad we we've got our own podcast here because everyone thinks it's all about Aaron Donald and no I did check. No one asked him about that. Unfortunately, no one asked them about this. Hopefully someone will next name. I'm almost positive he says, Oh my god, because he almost threw a pick six there, and as he threw it, one of the RAMS defenders, which he had no idea was was hiding in wait, flashes out in front of

It's just a fact.

It doesn't matter why said almost. I'm pretty certain, no matter what the reason was, he defecated in his pants.

It seem the way. But I mean, great parabolic mic work.

By the way, we don't often hear what these guys are saying out of the field, and like it was nothing else human.

It made me like Gino a little bit more.

It's like whether or not you almost thought you threw a pick six, you got like one of the largest humans on the planet coming at you at the speed of a car.

I mean, that's no, my god moment.

Also, like a man of faith that shows him to be.

Well he is.

That's that's probably someone who follows him on Twitter.

We know Greg and he follows back very We have been well.

Versed in this. The Oh my god, the Raiders. How about them Raiders? They had a nice start to their season.

Another team I nailed one win.

Well, I don't know if you'll you'll get there that game all right, Well it wasn't a game where I watched the Raiders and I thought magic was coming the season. But they got the win. And guess who won over their locker room in a big way. It was Jimmy Garoppo. There's Josh Jacobs, man, he's a dog. Any quarterback that's willing to take a hit in a big moment to secure a win got my respect. I think is he referring to that scramble that clinched the game?

Yeah, I think he took some good shots when he was staying in the pocket too.

Here's Josh McDaniel on his new quarterback.

He's a he's a good leader. He's won a lot of games in this league, you know, and you know that. I think I think the guys in the locker room know who they have and and what this guy can do, how competitive he is. He's a very good leader. He's a great communicator, you know, just does what it takes to win, you know, doesn't give it. He didn't care about his statistics or anything like that. It's just whatever I got to do at my position to try to help the team win, I'm going to try to do it.

Josh McDaniels needed that as well. That was a nice win for Josh McDaniels.

I almost feel like Garoppolo is like his emotional support player, Like how can how can I be unlikable if I've got my buddy Jimmy g next to me.

That's what's going to make the whole thing more Like Josh McDaniel still looking to find a career success out of the shadow of Bill Belichick.

I mean, this guy won many Super Bowls. Let's come down. Yeah, on the Patriots, but the career success well hold on outside the shadow of Bill.

Denver was about as big of a You copied Bill Belichick's cheating scandal and that I mean, that's how unriginal that was. Then he was the coordinator of the Rams one year and they were like the thirty first ranked offense.

I was responding to the to the first the first part, you know, I thought, so.

Let's head to Pat's corner and things are changing. Things feel different around the Patriots now, just a new world order. And Bill Belichick this jumped out to me. Bill did his postgame mortem breakdown, was asked about a decision. What was the decision that he made. I'm trying to remember.

They went for it on fourth and seventeen.

They went for it on fourth, and we talked about that when it was happening from the newsroom. It was four than twelve, and they get backed up by a penalty to fourth and seventeen. This is not the most high octane offense, and sure enough he throws a about a thirteen yard strike to Hunter Henry. Henry drops it anyway, but he was going to be smothered short of the sticks by a couple of yards easily either way. Bill Belichick actually admitted he shouldn't have done it on the radio,

Look, there wasn't a lot of field position to be gained, so we could have punted. You know, probably should have punted on fourth and seventeen, but we're on their side of the fifties too long per field goal. Fourth and seventeens a lot tougher than fourth and twelve.

Is the great Belichick starting to doubt himself.

Maybe it's more that he's turning over some new lease. I noticed how he was very enthusiastic and positive, trying to like cheer up mac Jones after they scored their second straight touchdown, to the point where like mac Jones looked a little grumpy coming off the field, like he didn't celebrate it, and Belichick was like, how come you're not celebrating, bro, And mac Jones just went by, and then Belichick actually followed him to the bench, and it's

I don't know what. I don't recall more than zero of those.

But ray, if I was in the first quarter, the second quarter of the game.

Maybe Belichick knows something we don't.

Maybe he likes his team daddy watch out.

Oh yeah, I've been told by Twitter user that will not be named here stop whispering as a sort of an affect on the show. They can't hear it, So I'm gonna stop.

Or you could just speak up when you will.

That's I was like, do I ever? I was like, do I ever do that? And then it just happened, So I guess that happens.

And while we're on Pat's corner, our old friend, the sentient power aid Bottle Solac, we heard yesterday him getting amped up after your boy Boute nearly got a second foot down. What we didn't hear was Scott Zolac of w ee I getting a little fired up, a little pot kettle black about the head coach of the Eagles, Nick Sirianni. Let's listen in. I don't know if like Philly has their complete cheer lakes.

WoT figured out, but like if they got an opening, Sirianni can step in.

I mean, he's got the tom wave and.

He's for head coach.

The receiver did not get the second foot in bounds, the pass is incomplete, it's a turnover on downs, it's first down for Philadelphia.

It was a little judgy. It is like, you know, for a head coach, it's like, here's the ultimate cheerleader in the history of broadcasting.

Come on, he knows whose audience.

I mean, this is the month the day after show. Only the most trenchant news and analysis from around the league are weekly.

Zolac.

I don't know how much you're gonna hear of him this year, quite honest, So take advantage of all week.

We hear from him more when they lose.

That's true. That's true. Well, you know what, there was a long time Gregi on this podcast where we were hearing from him a lot of wins.

That's true. I'm owed about a decade of misery.

Arthur Smith, speaking of misery, fantasy owners, they take what the Falcons do on draft Day and they say to themselves, well, obviously they're going to build their offense around these top ten picks they keep using, and then the head coach goes in different directions in terms of his scheming, and Arthur Smith already it's on his radar that this is a talking point around the Falcons that somebody like Drake London has zero catches, that Kyle Pitts cannot get the

If I were to tell you that Desmy would have more receptions than Drake and you'd win, would you believe me?

A and B?

Would you figure I'm gonna not to be rude. I'm gonna cut you off. Let the fantasy guys. We gotta clean some things up.

Love it.

We can all be better at our spacing and the targets is the most misunderstood thing in the National Football League. There's progressions, they're spacing if somebody's underneath is not right. That's the stuff where I'm a little irritated as a coach that we had to fix at halftime, and that's on me, it's on everybody, and we don't care. Drake Lendon doesn't care. All we care about is one and all.

Drake London cares. By the way.

Okay, well he might care, but I think that's tell he's completely in the right.

Like I mean, that's fine. I'm glad that.

Fantasy means is completely in the right. Oh he is.

He supposed to cater to fantasy.

Forget about fantasy. But the more of the ideas. You have these wildly talented skill players, at what point are you going to find a way to get them actively involved. It's very early in the season. I'm very excited to see it'll happen. It should Drake len and the two great receivers, you'll see it. Look every week at the targets like he could talk about progressions and he knows way more about football than I do. But they find ways to get the ball to funnel targets to your

Like if you if you like, contrasted to what Mike McDaniel has done in like a regular season plus one game with his star wide outs.

I understand.

I'm I'm saying he's right about the fantasy part, like that's like given, but.

No one's arguing about that, like that was his That was nice little.

All right, But it's like that that was if he hadn't if he hadn't answered the fantasy question, we wouldn't have even been already talked.

We don't even know what part B was Zach. You know, probably I don't know who Zach is.

Man. They'll go with AM B and Jack.

I was trying to think, who's who's the Zach that covers the Falcons. Can't think of one, can't find one. I think he made a mistake going with the AA and the B. At that point, he was he was spinning once Arthur Smith cut him off. He's trying to get be in. We'll never know what B is. But the thing where Smith lost me a little bit though, is Drake London cares. He cares a lot his future

They want to makes the offense better. But a big part of this is do they have a quarterback to facilitate such a thing as well? And that's the beautiful thing about football. Season will unfurl and we will learn more, more and more and more more coming.

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