Washington Name Change & Going North

I want Mark, but at you. Well, because because I'm representing, um, the people that they're that they don't want, you know, they want Dan and Mark. Uh, and um, they're not getting them this week. Let's break it down. It's uh, it's a little bit different of a week. This has been a very different offseason. And and Dan and Mark are taking a well deserved week to settle a bunch

of stuff. And we thought, hey, we're here, let's take a couple of mini shows instead of going dark a couple of weeks before camp starts, We're just gonna hit you with the news of the day. We'll get a little extra Ricky Hollywood, will get a lot extra Patrick Claiban and we'll say bye and we'll continue our training for this. Greg's an extraordinarily nice person. I will translate for everybody that's that's trying to figure that out. Well,

don't complain, You're lucky. I'm doing this for you. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I am the source of your joy, your pleasure, your pain you're suffering. I am I am Greg About to me, that's not quite what he said because the sat but no, um, but I like that interpretation. Ricky. You were you were at hands this manner um yesterday for a nice socially distant sitting far apart um quick meat up where you say, yeah, West, that's pretty exciting. So West Saukeisha, so baby Lanky is just like so

freaking cute. It's unreal. Um. Colleen Wolfe was there and Dan and we all sat very very far apart, even with masks on, even that far apart. So it was it was very Um, it was really really we were really careful. It was it's still though, it's still it's still cool. It was hearing. I was not able to make it unfortunately. Um it was tied up with with the family. But uh yeah, West West and Keisha said it was one of their best days they've had in a long time and get to feel like a normal

person and talk to uh other people. It's exciting. Probably when I was your weekend, it was good. Last week was probably the busiest week professionally that I've had to the NFL, and uh, that was different so the weekends because like, honestly the start of all this, there was no difference between the days. Everything was basically the same. But like I hit Saturday morning and it was like, all right, yeah, let's let's rest. And then my son immediately kicked me in the face and so like it

was like a like welcome back to reality. But we're not resting that much. It's like Malcolm has wet three. Yeah, he's three, and you're in your newborn stage, is you know, a newborn? So yeah, you're not getting that much resting me. Yeah, but just the requirements on me, I could just I could just be dad and so that was that was cool to just be dad for a couple of days

and right back at it today. But not to the same extent because last week was all right, and now we're yeah, we're putting you to work, and I apologize for that, but don't even have to put a shirt on for this. Just there's like a little bit of it. I think an emptiness inside of me, and the only way to try to fill it is by podcasting. It's like Mark Mark said he was tired of hearing, you know,

the sound of his own voice. On some level, it's like, Nope, not me, gotta just keep talking out into the void. All right, let's let's do some news, Ricky. If Captain Hook was moonlighting as a handy man, he might replace his hook with what tool? A hammer? A penis. I have never seen Steve Harvey stop during Fast Money, like during the Fast Money around the fact that he was

like what did he just say? Oh so good? That was Steve Harvey, who's the host of the Family Feud in an NFL Stars Versus Old Stars show, And that was Bruce Smith with one of the most memorable family feud answers in a long time. That's that's like, as a Family Feud host, your job is to be there for when somebody said something very sexually suggestive and on that like, that's the most important part of hosting that show. And that's what Steve Harvey excels at. It is uh,

it's a classic. I mean, I can't say I watched a ton anymore, but man I was locked in as a as as a preteen and Michael Irvin, by the way, the clip of him celebrating one of his answers is also see what the question was. It was kind of like an easy either or question. It was like name a color on a on a checkerboard and he said red or black, which got fifty one out of a hundred, and he celebrated like they won a fourth super Bowl.

But I don't hate it. I love it. I love it. UM. I wish we had, you know, such joyful news to talk about. UM, well, I guess we do off the top depending on how you want to look at it. A right has been wronged and we we talked about it. The Washington football team, UM, we anticipated they were going to change their name. They had officially said that they were only doing an examination into the team name. On Monday, the team officially announced that they are changing their team name.

They mentioned the old team name seven times in the statement, UM, which which was interesting. But it's coming. And perhaps the only reason why they didn't announce what the new name is gonna be is there's reportedly a trademark dispute, but Dan Snyder, who's owned the team for twenty years and long fought against this change. Officially is on the record that it will be no more, and it will be

no more before the season. So they're gonna have to figure out what happens with their uniforms and in everything else in the next couple of weeks. Patrick, and it was seemed like hopefully there's been some sort of plan

in the works. And it's not just how that statement makes it sound, which is that Dan and Ron are just kind of like on a zoom call, just talking it out, like like you and Amica or me and Lauren naming the kids right, like hopefully there's more than just two people involved and hopefully, Uh, this is the trademark issue is just you know, how squatters are You see people do it with U R L s and Twitter names all the time. Will they just did some

realtor apparently squatted on all these names. I think somewhat recently he saw what was happening and he suddenly squatted on like fifteen different names, and so that you know, that's that's unfortunate, But at least like they didn't wait right until they had that resolved. They let everybody know everything in the week that we're not going to use the name anymore. And uh and yeah, it's it's over finally, Uh, which you move on something like it's I'm just glad,

I'm just glad. It's fine. You know. It is funny because we're this is one where we're NFL employees and a lot of times we get comments, especially from people overseas, Wow, you you guys, you know you can. I'm not gonna do a nextent, but you guys can really, you know, they really let you take the piss out of out of the league, even though you work for him. But there there are some issues that you know, you always have to be professional about it. But b was kind

of a third rail issue and this was it. This was almost like the number one third rail issue. So there is something to me. You mentioned, um, you know Mike Silver call in the name racist. I looked at you know that Judy Batiste the headline she writes for NFL dot com today and just you know, calling an embarrassed a long term embarrassment for the league is finally over with. And there's almost part of me that's still like,

can she say that? But but but it's great because she can and Um, it's the weird thing is it's been such a long fight and we will move on from it. But it's not like it's not like this is a new thing in I forgot the name, but an Indian council back in two was battling hard for this. This is almost a fifty year old fight. There were three thousand people Ricky at the super Bowl in the early nineties that Washington played at protesting that super Bowl.

So that's that's thirty years ago. So it's not about like, hey, this isn't like you know, different Native um voices have been battling this for a long time and you know, I'm sure they're they're thrilled to see this. I uh, I don't know. It's it's like a larger question in this in this time. Um. But man, like that there's a there's a reckoning, there's another there's more reckonings for

this country out there. And I read this novel I'm just gonna give it a shout called there there by Tommy Orange last year and it's a novel, but man, it made it provided kind of like a kaleidoscope of the current native experience in the country. That was eye opening. To me, and and it's in a fictional way, in in such a way that I'm almost like ashamed how little I know I've ever thought about it. And it's

a brilliant writing too, So i'd recommend that to anyway. Yeah, one thing that they kind of leached out to me that through the course of the conversation, again, like as you said, from my entire life about this this team's name, is this idea that the only reason it matters is because certain people are quote unquote offended and and somebody always they say offended in such a in such a way that it's like, oh, well they're being ninnies, right, and that's it. But it's it's not about who is

or who isn't quote quote offended. Right. The the ideas that we have perpetuate actual harm on people, and especially these people who were here before any of us, Right, And if we can't change at least even the most minor things, that we're not gonna be able to change, uh, you know, the things that that still impact in today.

And a shout out to the last person to complain about me not using the team name on Twitter who added the network and the league account run by Bright and anybody else in social who, I guess gets angry tweets about me. Why did your late night anchor Patrick Clayban on Thursday Night call Blank the football team from Washington instead of their nickname when doing the highlights of their preseason games preseason games? By the way, is this

an option that you've given to your talent on the network? Well, Uh, you don't have to worry about me saying or not saying the team name anymore. Uh. Sorry, I guess today sucks for you. Sorry, not sorry. You do wonder. I do wonder a little bit, um if the Chiefs are next and the Chiefs are different because the chief There's many reasons why it's different. Um, but I do think it's it's possible, and I don't think you'll see, you know, maybe the tomahawk chalk at uh at chief schemes in

different sporting events to um. Moving on to uh to the issue of the day. And there's not a huge update today in terms of where we are with the coronavirus in California. Here just to give you know, our listeners, you know, a clue of kind of where we're at. You know, cases are skyrocketing, they are now you know, adding restrictions or re adding restrictions um to what we can do in terms of hair salons are now closed as of Monday once again, indoor malls, a bunch of

indoor activities essentially throughout the state. So and that that's happening in a lot of places where um, new mask laws are are happening, new restrictions are happening, uh in hot spots throughout the country. So we're not in a in a good place in the country. And that leaves the conversations between the NFL p A and the NFL and how to start training cap very complicated. And you know, I could get into all the details. I just don't

think they're that interesting. But right now the two sides are are talking on Monday about everything, how they're gonna on ramp the season, players, safety, health, and then economics. There's an idea to have like a stipend. If you end up being on a team or even if you show up to work, you get an extra two hundred fifty thousand dollars or five hundred thousand dollars this year

that's guaranteed even if the games aren't completed. That's one idea maybe if if we if we go have to go into the studio, we I think we should talk about that. We should. Yeah, I don't think they're right now. We are We're not going back into the studio as NFL media employees. But I think the biggest takeaway is just we're two weeks away supposedly from when all the teams are supposed to show up, and I think it's fair to say there is increasing um concerned that they're

not going to be starting on that day. That that is that is up in the air, and I think Ian Rappaportin and some of the players have have talked about that. I think my hope is if they don't start right, if if we're looking at this at it

won't happen. I hope it's for safety reasons. I hope it's not over a contract dispute or just the dispute over the money, because I think we've seen, at least in Tom's reporting since Friday, some pretty reasonable um proposals from the p A side, right, and you could you could negotiate on that in terms of, you know, the stipend or how much money is going to players who have guaranteed salaries, uh, in the event of a loss.

But I just I hope the decisions are being made with regards to safety first and then everything else can can kind of follow after that. But I mean, if there's a if there's a good faith effort on both sides to be as safe as possible to start, then then that's the starting point. But it's uh, it's unfortunate that players who and this is just in general how it is always with with like c bas and contracts, like. Players have a very limited window to make money and

the owners have a significantly larger window. And so when you're asking players to split losses, right, if there's up to four billion dollars in losses, if you want them to split it fifty over the course of one year, I don't think anybody could really look at that and say that's that's fair. Right for these players, in particular to the shoulder that loss, it's it's complicated, which was why I'm not going to be you know, lightened, you know,

torches or take the pitchforks out at this point. It is complicated, and I if on both sides, and the revenue sharing aspect to the league adds another layer of complication. But nothing's more complicated than the health stuff, and nothing's more out of the league's control than the health stuff in California and Texas in Florida which is having record cases. So yeah, I keep going back to that same point.

The league's not the league and the players aren't gonna have any ability to help control that, and that that's where it's gonna be really complicated. And and I did. I I reached out to Ian see if he had anything extra where he's just kind of feeling things, and he he just said he nobody knows anything. Nobody knows anything. So if you have this idea of like there's a certain group of people that knows what's gonna happen, I

don't think. So. Maybe it's at the very inside of the league office where Roger Goodell works, um has like a hope of how things are gonna go. But I don't think anyone in terms of teams, coaches, or even the highest place media people really have have any clue how this is gonna go times and and extrapolate that not just out through the NFL, but through all of society. UM in the United States of America, where where nobody really knows. Are we bumming? Are we bumming people? Are

we bumming you out Erica? That's what I worry about. I mean, no, it's it's this is our current, it's our present. I think it'll be interesting to see what happens with the bubble with the NBA. And I think that everything that's happening right now in other sports is going to directly translate to to this league. And even Russell Westbrook today is positive for coronavirus, so it's happening at an alarming rate. Still, right, a lot of players

in your right. I I totally agree that some of the trial and error that the MLB and NF NBA are going through in terms of their testing time and how that gets complicated, um, that the NFL be watching that closely. But the NFL also has uh has way

more people. By the way. I saw Russell Westbrook at our local kids park last summer um last summer, and I mean not surprising that he's, you know, a striking individual in person, but he could do like he could lift his daughter up to like the high part of the playground in which I could There's no way that I could, like he could just pick her up and take her down, but it was like seven ft in the air. And that's the sort of level of parenting that he can provide like that. I just can't. I

just can't. What do you have to climb up? And she's got a climb up and down, which is fine, that's the whole idea, but you know if she I think in this case, his his kid was upset and he could just like reach up and grab her and that wasn't gonna happen for me. He's a tall you know, he's a guard, so you don't think of it, but

he is a tall, tall man. Yeah. It's the scale of NBA players kind of throws everything off, like especially when you think, like like Dwayne Wade and Julio Jones are the same size, but like us they Westbrook is what six six or seven or something, So I don't know, you don't think of it, but yeah, he looked like Cam Newton. Apparently they play at the church. Him and some players played Gonza. Gonza are our friend Colleen's husband John Gonzalez. Drop. Do you have that drop in a studio?

You think I can just pull it out of the note? Maybe you could, like later, you could just throw it in there. He somehows he somehow knew he's in the neighborhood that the NBA players get down at that that church, Jim right near us. Moving on, all right, let's talk

franchise tag. I know, Um, I know, the training camp may or may not start on time, but the rest of the NFL little dates in terms of transactions have gone off as planned all off season, and that includes almost the last one, which is the day that franchise tag players have to sign a long term deal by or they only have the option to play under that tag.

This year, that day is July fifteen. That day is Friday, I mean Wednesday rather and uh, it does not appear that Dak Prescott is going to sign a new contract. They're very far apart um. And to expand it even further, it doesn't look like any one of the players that was a franchise tag and there was fourteen of them this year, which is a huge number. I think it's the second most ever. Um got the franchise tag this year. Justin Simmons, the safety of the Broncos. They're apparently talking

Leonard Williams. He's not getting it. Matthew Jude on is fighting to be counted as a linebacker instead of I mean a defensive end instead of a linebacker. Shack Barrett's doing that. But my takeaway two days away from this deadline is that it looks like none of these guys are getting long term contract. That includes Chris Jones as

well Patrick. And a part of that is just the general direction that the franchise tag is taken over the last few years and and then like not to like bring it back down, but it's just just the uncertainty that's associated with this virul right um. And so there's been and you see, like like Ian said today that you know, there's still two days for dec right, but what's what's the incentive, right um, especially if you're considering

that there's a possibility that this season might be shortened. Um, you know, if he's if he's on the tag like he he could stand up lose a lot of money on what's the incentive from the team You're saying, because they're still they're still incentive from the player's perspective to get that guaranteed money sooner than later. Yeah, I get some get some guaranteed money at the signing, But what's as far as your there, it's just it's just not there,

and so that's working out in their favor. And a lot of these other guys it's just like, well we'll tag him. Um you know that they were interested in having them long term anyway, most of them, I would agree. I don't think Matthew Judon was ever are getting a long term deal. I don't think Shack Barrett was ever getting a long term deal. The truth maybe Leonard Williams or Debt was definitely not getting a long term deal. Joe Tuney with the Patriots, Um, I don't think it

was ever getting a long term deal. But guys like Chris Jones, who have made some noise about letting this hold out go a little further, it does appear like Chiefs are trying to make some sort of good faith effort. Um, it would be complicated, but I just I just don't think it's gonna happen. And the Cowboys, especially um Many, they've got a good deal of just having him on

a one year contract. But it's dangerous. I mean, I think the you know, it really is dangerous because I think, you know, that's only gonna be worth more and more as this. You know, if he plays well this year, and I think he will, I just I don't understand how we're still doing this thing that Matthew Judean and Shack Barrett are having to deal with, Like if you if you're rushing the pastor a certain number of times, like yeah, like just just stop trying to play call

these dudes linebackers like order we do. He led the NFL and SAX, So you're gonna like this is yeah, for this is getting in the weeds. But this is a battle that's been going on I think for like fifteen years at different positions. There was outside linebacker and inside linebacker. Teams used to battle over and they just made it total linebacker. You're right, they need to make edge a position. That's what we've done at the Projected

Starter series. You know, that's what they've done at Rhoda World. They don't even mess with the they just go edge follow us. We just say edge for the NFL Draft. I mean it's it's not like you know, these Mario Williams, Julius Peppers guys are coming in a whole lot like where it's just like, oh, yeah, this is this is the guy, Like you line up for us the quarterback.

Then you're an edge. That's all right. We don't have like a ton of like high super crazy level news, but we are going to run through a few more stories quickly, one of them including the Patriots that I don't think it's just me being a Patriots fan that finds us interesting. They opened up seven point seven four million dollars in space over the weekend when the NFL ruled in their favor on a pair of grievances involving

Antonio Brown and wait for it, Aaron Hernandez. They are getting salary cap space back um from the Aaron Hernandez saga in the year Erica, I know you're a salary cap expert. I also know you're an Aeron Hernandez expert after watching them the documentary, I think he listened to the podcast. You are a Patriots fan. Your thoughts, I mean, yeah, when it comes when it comes to cap stuff like I'm your girl, and this is this is huge news. This is the best news of uh No, I have

no idea. I think I mean it's it's it's kind of good. That feels like that sort of closing the door on the I mean, you don't want to turn your turn a blind eye to the Patriots history, but it is sort of nice to kind of put that behind us going forward. It's also nice to get an m v P quarterback and be like, oh man, we all look, man, we only got so much money. You know what I'm saying. If you want to play football, that's good. This is all we got. You know, this

is this is this is right. And then the next week it's like, oh, hey, look, Reassby, well you already signed. Okay, well yeah some else. Oh I didn't even think about that. That's um, maybe maybe that plays into a future signing. I mean, maybe it's like a come and make sure you're healthy and show I mean, I know that's like the stupidest argument. I mean, they would love I would They would love Cam to ball out and to sign him to a big term contract. They can use the

franchise tag. I'm Cam, and he does have a lot of incentives in his contract, but not that many. I mean, not enough where if he plays well as a starter, that he's got to be the best bargain in the entire league. And you know, you know who believes me? Who agrees Cameron Newton let's let's listen to Cam Newton. I know you haven't heard this, Patrick, but I don't know. There's something about me. I've always been a Cam fan.

I'm obviously Patriots fan. There's something about this entire experience that, as we're getting closer to it, is fascinating to me. And I just want to listen to a video that Cam released after a workout. If you can find it, it's where it's cinematic. I mean, well, I mean we're listening to. We're gonna listen to the whole thing, So Patrick, feel free. We can talk a little over it because otherwise, like it's a minute and a half long, let's hit it, Ricky.

You know what makes it different is he's actually Camp. Yeah, I ain't seen him. That's a big by the way he talked. They forgotten Cam. Yeah, you on Cam tired of being sick of tire Camp. I felt like I was just left to die. But there's a lot of in those you know what I'm saying, it's just just just sober with for him. He ain't the same player mm hmm. The Atlantic and what you're saying, this is the this is the growing up Cam Patrick. People for can is literally the son of a preacher. Man. I adore,

I admire, taste it. I want to. I want everything about it, you know what I'm saying. Because he's got to work out in doorphins, juice and through h I ain't never seen that me. We gotta get uh, We're gonna get these guys to like follow more friendly timelines so they're not only do I admire it, I want to taste it. I want to. I want everything about it, all right, because I ain't never seen that me. You know what I'm saying, I ain't wait. Did we just

moved back to the beginning or something? What just happened? Now he's just repeating himself, he is, here's the big end. You got more energy? You know what I'm saying. I told to say, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy, We're going to Charlotte. I said, no, soare Charlotte? Did We've got another place we're going to? We're going North? Oh? Yeah, North. The smile on y'all's faces when he said that, even though both of you had heard it before, this kind of indicates to me the passion of being an NFL fan.

And I'm glad that you guys have another uh at the quarterback. I'll be a more cinematic one almost almost. I mean there is something to First of all, I love that, you know, he said he said the humble cam is gone. It's like the Humble cam wasn't around for too long and no one wants that. That's not that's not cam is I want. I want this cam. I love that he's he's calling himself the uh. We have to beat out some words there, but they did it on cam and I don't know. I it's just

gonna be It's gonna be fascinating. I don't know. It makes me so much more excited if there is football this season. I just don't want him to be bad, you know. I don't want to imagine what Boston is like if he doesn't play well. Um, but man, he's gonna make it. He makes it. He makes it fun. Please. People talk about Jared's did I'm competing with him and

it doesn't even like cut off. He is like we're going north and then he like looks off into the distance and then walks into the darkness like someone falling. And I was just like, well, let's go. Yeah, you're right that this is NFL fanom in a nutell because I never watched any of these player type videos, hype type of I've never watched the camp video like this before.

But now that now that it's the Patriots and in this quiet time, I'm like watching this and thinking, oh yeah, watch out right, I think we're gonna we're gonna know pretty early, right, Um. I think so, somebody's gonna run a deep out and if Cam's fastball is back, well, then you guys are gonna win the super Bowl. I mean, that's the only that that's the only difference, like if Cam, if Cam's arm is back, then then that's it the page,

you think. So, I think you're gonna know by mid August if if they're actually practicing at full speed, and that's gonna take weeks I think to really find out about but maybe it's late August. Basically, if he's just out there and he's healthy, then then we know. Then they have Cam for as long as as it's gonna last. And maybe that's six games, maybe that's six years. It's

it's really tough to tell, but it is. It is one of the delightful subplots of this season that that makes me hope that we do have it um after this season, though we already know a little bit about the broadcasting teams. For one, Greg Olsen has officially signed to Fox Sports. We've been tracking this story and I just figured let's throw it in there. He is signing one to Fox Sports. He's going to be their number two analysts along with Kevin Burkhard. That was the old

Charles Davis roll. Charles Davis is going to CBS. Moose Johnston is gonna fill it this year, but just for one year. And Greg Olsen is getting a nice post um career gig. And I'm all about it because I think he's done a great job when he's who's done some games. I can't wait to see what the third leg of Gregg's career is gonna look like. I mean, he is just, uh, he's taken over. He's been in at Miami, UM flourished in Charlotte. You know, they had an opportunity to win a Super Bowl, and I think

it's good. Like there's there was this era right of color guys UM that didn't really it seemed like it was forced almost and kind of Romo has opened up this idea of just kind of get up there and be you don't necessarily try to fit into this this broadcaster mold that we've all been up there and if you if you want to have if you want to have fun, if you want to be excited, if you want to riff on the guy that's calling the game, like, go up there and do it. I'm I'm sorry to

see Greg do it. I'm excited to see you know, the next wave. Not to not to push anybody out, but you know, just let's let's just watch the game and have some fun and uh not be all kaji mm hmm. Give Nate Burlison and that uh NFL network team and mid a little extra work too. I think they were fun out in the UK last year. A couple smaller items. Again, we're gonna close up with here and and say goodbye, and we will be doing one

other show this week. Unless you just come at me and say, uh no, no, She's just like that wasn't good enough. Sorry, Greg um raheem most had a trade with quest. This happened after we taped their last podcast on Wednesday. Since then the agents walked it back some somewhat or totally that he realizes it was a bad idea, but he does want to raise Raheem most Or a

super Bowl and playoff hero. I mean could have been, you know, one of the most valuable for there was Erica, but they just don't want to pay him because he's a running back and they find running backs and trees in San Francisco. I do think it's a little it's funny that he's like, actually, you know, I don't want to trade anymore, which is like the ultimate leverage. It's like if I go to my boss and I'm like, hey, someone's really recruiting me and like they're gonna pay me whatever.

Then they're like, okay, go and it's like, oh wait now, Like I'm good here, but can we like work something out. I mean, you've tried that move I have. Yeah, I'm still trying. I try it. You know, you've tried, like they be getting steps of that of that move. I think it could be successful. I think at this point, your leverage is greater than it's ever been. Yeah, I agree. But for for he most Er I think they kind

of like I would. I would think that Shanahan would want to keep that team as close together as possible for right now because they're in that window still and especially with the season that they had, they're in a good place. But that stage stage stage is making a guest your parents. Uh, do you wanna do you? Do you need to do? You need to go? Do you want to bring stage on the show. It's up to you. I mean she is on the show. I love having her.

We can yeah, we can see her here in the second Lauren is manipulating a a extrement receptacle device and uh, you see this is what Um, I'm sure it's a great audio. No, I think it's great. It's a slice of life. Um. But honestly, like I understand where raheem most it is coming from. You're just pivoting right off of sage. I thought you were given to give some fatherly like, Okay, this is what life is like, is it?

Don't really have any like things to present, Like Lauren's has just been carrying us this this a couple of weeks. And so like my fatherly advice would be to uh to find a spouse about Mary Lauren. Yeah, that's it. I would suggest everybody somebody like my wife, but not my wife because I like her too much. If you guys want to say Hey this stage. Yeah, oh my goodness, she is so beautiful there because living that baby life sceneing Lincoln and look a little yawn. Oh you're just

waking up. Yeah, I'm not happy about it. Maybe maybe this lights a little bright so cute like for most are if if I get it, like the dudes over six yards and carry right for his career. And I understand that people want to like attribute that, and I know that we've done a lot of math here recently with regards to running backs, and like the guy is is popped off big runs and he makes plays, so like, why wouldn't he try to get like trying to get some money? Man, Like, we don't know how long this

game is gonna exist. We don't know how long players careers are gonna So I'm never gonna like dump on a guy for trying to put himself in position to to make some more money. Well, here's the thing. He he was the best one last They were they were at their best last year, and he was the best

one last year, especially when it mattered. They've had a lot of different people in there, and this is kind of a something people don't consider when you bring free agents into your um organization that the other people at that position see what they make and if they end up outperforming them, then that becomes a problem, or if they already were in this case, moster you know, was paid at a normal rate. But now he sees Tevin

Coleman and he saw what Jerrick McKinnon was making. UM, and he's making a lot less than them, and he was a lot more valuable than Tevin Coleman was even when Coleman was on the field. And so uh and so you get upset, and uh, maybe they'll give him a little pop. Maybe I wouldn't be surprised if they put some incentives or throwing throwing something into his country,

give him a throw him a bone at least. Um. We are gonna wrap up with some more running back news, which is that DeVonta Freeman Um, who is not in the right now, reportedly did have interest UM from a variety of teams but couldn't settle on on the right number. Um has had his relationship with his agent terminated. That his agent sort of fired him, I guess basically because he wouldn't take the contract that she uh was hoping that he took, which is you don't see that too often. Yeah,

I would. I'd like to hear from DeVonta Freeman, right, because um, the agent out in front right has has something, has some has a lot of skin in the game. Uh, maybe not as much as as DeVonta Freeman. And I'm not I'm definitely not doubting anybody's reporting, but um, you know, it's kind of like when a marriage doesn't work and it's like, yeah, sources say that he was a jerk, and it's like, oh, well, let's let's uh, let's get another point of view here, because maybe maybe there's some

blame to be cast on both sides. Are you are you you know, referring to the did J Cutler divorce or any okay, perhaps any any relationship involving more than one person, right, Because there were some stories, there were some stories that came out immediately that didn't paint day in the in the in the in the brightest light, and uh, you know, and pressed and it felt like, Okay, this is probably not coming from Jay's camp. Yeah, does J? Does J Cutler paint himself in the brightest light? Like

it's like, who can you blame here? Really? I mean, but honestly, I mean when you get involved with with a J. Cutler, one would think that you would be aware of the circumstances that would follow um. But you know, all the best to Jay and Kristin and Davante and his agent as well. His agent his name Kristen, Kristen Campbell. Yeah. I don't like it when the agents putting it out there like that. There quick clearly trying to say like, hey guys, it wasn't my fault that he didn't get

a contract this offseason, so it's playing the game. I don't love that. In one on the topic of agents, one thing that that I thought about, Charlie castlely kind of slightly went in on Patrick Mahomes agent uh last week and it was like the first time that I remember any concrete criticism of a player's agent, uh. And so that was cool too. Do you like that? You like to see that? Yeah, because when the when the when the players signed their own contracts, right, it's like, oh,

they could have got this, that and the other. But if it's if it's an agent done deal, generally the idea is like, oh, well, this is the best that they could have done. You know this they were working with certain circumstances, because agents really dictate the course of our conversations about a lot of things. And uh, I'm glad I've got a better one. Now that it ended good, I want to I want to hear more about that later. But in the meantime, Erica, hopefully you find the agent

of your dreams. I hope. So, thanks Greig, I've got mine and a shout out to Burke. And that's it for this show. I think we're just doing news. We're gonna update you on everything that's happening in the NFL a little later in the week, and um, and that's it. And we'll be back with our our full shows next week and our TV are around the NFL broadcast next week. But we're gonna hold it down this week and we're gonna have fun doing it. Thank you, Patrick, thank you.

Let's do it for Patrick Claiborne. Erica tam pose for Lauren and Sage. They jumped in here for Patrick Claiborne's fired agent, see, wouldn't they m