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Tight Ends Get Paid; Bengals Sanctuary

Aug 14, 202040 min
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A bunker filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal bring you all of the news surrounding the NFL including some major contract signings with the Chiefs and 49ers. Also, we take the Bengals out of the den and take them somewhere... else.

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Be Around the NFL Podcast, our Tanking for tam Posey and welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and I'm coming to you from a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg what is up? Boys? Listen to that music? Ride it out.

I don't know what tanking for tam Posey means. We I mean, I get it, there'd be a prize at the end, but we already have her working for us, So what would we be gaining if we put a terrible year's worth of episodes out to come in last place among podcasts. We're on our way, yeah, not far off. This is our Friday news rundown program. Very exciting time for the show because not only are we back to three podcasts a week, we have the NFL Network program

which is also airing digitally. So we're recording that today goes up. Where where can people get it if they want to watch the digital version today Friday? NFL dot Com, NFL dot Com. I think at six pm Eastern three pm Pacific. I think they're putting it on YouTube streaming. You know, you can check it out on the network eight am Eastern tomorrow eleven am Eastern, a little Saturday

morning with the kids. Forget like I like to log onto that like twenty two pound desktop computer we have in that one room that no one's using and watch it on I don't know, it's just like a gigantic piece of you. Haven't you own a desktop still? I do? You know? It's not you gotta bring it to the new house or just like that's getting lost in the mix. That could be one of those things we've had success just putting large objects at the end of our driveway.

Then like a guy in a truck comes by and takes it away about eight seconds this and I could be the last time you ever see this entirely fake background. Have you used like offer up or let go those apps? Some guy came in a pickup truck and picked up my b stro set yesterday and handed me fifty bucks cash. We got. We've gone the less storny free route. We're just sticking it out. We're in. We're in, you know, the the eleventh hour of this shift across the city.

So you don't have anything to add, Dan, I mean it's good. I'm glad you got a plug in there for a company marks telling us about the stuff he's putting on the street corner. But we got stuff to do because, like I said, we're doing a podcast today, we're doing a video show, and uh, it's all there for you the listener slash viewers. So if you listen to this podcast after it goes up on the digital side at NFL dot com today, no, you can watch

on NFL Network tomorrow morning. And uh, you know, just giving you guys content for the rest of the summer until our formats switches up a little bit or scheduling once the season begins, and we'll tell you all about that. It might be familiar to last year, but with a little bit of a difference as well. Were crimes and is starting in under four weeks. The kickoff game is I would already already happened, Uh four weeks from now, the Snoopy Bowl would have been played tonight, by the way,

So that's the real loss here. If you look at what happened to the country over the last six seven months, the Snoop Peo Bowls disappearance, that's v Giants. The game really hasn't been the same since Rex has been gone. But that's that's life all right, before we get into the news and this is just a news rundown show because like I said, we're very busy today, but we need to be in touch with our wonderful listeners. I do have some developing news. Okay, so you guys know.

Obviously on Wednesday's show, very exciting, we rolled out our new fan club. It is the Bengals Den. In this club, I don't know. I don't even really know what it is. We go place, we go a place, we visit and then so that's it got off to a nice start there. But then um a listener, Josh Rosnowski and great job. However, you got a name like that, shut up thor whenever you got a name like that Rosnowski and then you can just bang it out at Rose and then you're

just Rose for the rest of your life. That's not bad anyway. Roz hits up me Greg and Mark. Greg never saw it here. It is just listen to the pod. Great stuff is always one thing though, Bengal Tigers don't live in Den's. They sleep in the open or wherever they happen to be. Lions live in Den's, hence why Ford Field is called the Den. Who knew maybe the maybe the Bengals rest. I don't know, it doesn't sound right to me. What do you mark? This feels like

something we need to rectify. Yeah, it tell us. I mean, you know, I did a little bit of work on on my own because we were very correct in general. I mean, they originate in India. I felt that they swim, they can swim from island to island. But it left me no closer to um a name suggestion. So I don't know, if you what where we are with that? What does point out that Bengal tigers and then maybe the Bengals are bigger badasses than lions going out from

like hiding in their den Tigers? I did. I did see the tweet right before we started and checked its accuracy, and it's like, yeah, they usually just like sleep out in the open, right next to the prey that they just eat ate. I mean, what's more badass than that? That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. So here's what I'm thinking. Since there is no den, we got to get him out of that den. Uh So what we're gonna do is we're gonna move him to a sanctuary and will

become our Bengal sanctuary and uh to do that? Listen, Greg, you think it's problematic, We're just getting started. Um Ricky, let's uh yeah, let's let's move these bangles. Just the tranquilizer dart. Don't worry. Are you sure that was a tranquilizer? Is that allowed? Pretty sure? This is a tranquilizer gun. Let's bag attack these suckers and get into the sanctuary. And now we're gonna have a Bengal sanctuary. It's gonna be great. We're gonna take care of them. We were

just taking them away in a forklift. I feel like there's gonna be interference from certain groups. I think said the word sanctuary means that they're ultimately like rescue animals that couldn't survive on their own in the wild. I don't think you would call it a sanctuary if you're like brutally um hurting them. I knew you would have a problem with this. I'm just saying I've been the sanctuaries.

The kids love the sanctuaries. It's all like tigers, and you know, they were found in some place where they can't live, so they it's the only way they can. Someone trying to bat they are as a species. Greg, you gotta get your head out of the clouds. How do you think these uh tripod tigers get to the sanctuary. You can't just pick them up and put a leash on him. Well, they just take them there on on the metro or something very safely, no problems. It's everything

is being done in a humane manner. Now we have this beautiful sanctuary. And at the end of the season, Greg, and this, I think we'll make you feel better. We plan to set them free in an open field Bombay, Downtown Bombay is my plan. Downtown, beautiful, beautiful Junglehara the Sahara. You know, I think they like that. All right, we'll

take care of him. All right, let's do some news now that we've tackle that right now, the block there is Drake dropped the video at midnight, Drake, who you may remember number five on the top ten things I Love about Canada. He's doing the thing, He's doing Drake stuff. And that was Marshawn Lynch Beast Mode himself jacking up Drake in the open field and then insulting him and

a nice little interlude. Greg, you look very confused. Well, the whole yeah, I hadn't seen the clip without oh b J and Drake the song in general where he seems to be coming after Push the T and kind I don't know Drake, you know this this part of the Drake career not as into right now what about you,

Ricky seems to be an agreement. Um. Yeah. The the video's really really funny, like Drake's crying and he's like in a Nike store, like repetitively, like the Nike balls, Like it's like we get who paid for your video? The headquarters in or Yeah, it's insane, his whole video. It's so it's worth checking out, and it's very funny. It's not a good song. He is the most streamed artist mark you're you're big on streaming. He is the most streamed artist in the history of music. He actually

surpassed Eminem somewhat recently. So Drake is, on some by one measure, at least, the most successful artist of all time. I think he's hit that level or period of his career now where he's probably peaked creatively, but he's more

famous than ever. So the music will probably continue to go down, but his fame will continue to stay where it is, and I think it comes through artistically and little things like if you watch that video, the kind of the hook, the verbal hook of the song as he goes baby over and over and all through the video. He has things like he comes out of submerged water and says baby. And one time he's like on a basketball court and he gets dunked on he turns his

head he was baby Like. All he's trying to do is at a a meme. He's just trying to go viral at this point, so he knows what he's doing. I don't think so. I like I jumped on the Tailor Swift bandwagon late. I don't This doesn't sound like the right I want to jump on. Not not right now. I do feel like people our age though I'm including the guys in the room now that we're all over forty. You know, Dan is right there with us. I feel like our our era probably doesn't have enough respect that

Drake is. He will go down with like like Michael Jackson and Prince for younger generation. Is that influential and that in like one of the greats which made you know, you gotta give him, you gotta give him that respect, which I don't know if he gets from the over forty crowd, but he will. Look he got it from me. Top five best Canadian things. Hey, Also, you guys, fun

little nugget our podcast listeners. Um it shows you who listens to around the NFL on Spotify, and one of the top streamed artists from our listeners happens to be Drake. So let's not alienate him. We love. We're like thirteen minutes into this show. We've covered uh, you know, Bengals Layer. We were being scolded for, you know, going slightly off track about ten and a half minutes ago. And look where we are. Is there anything else that's going out

in the street corner this weekend? Mark? No. I mean, there's a lot more I can offer, but it's it's a nobody cares. Nobody cares at all, I don't think. So I'll just I'll see you when I get to the next place. And it's the Bengal Sanctuary. Uh. We don't want to get any more tweets. All right, let's get to it. Tight ends getting paid in the NFL. George Kittle and the forty niners in agreement five years,

seventy five million of that seventy five million total. More than half of it is made up of guarantees thirty million guaranteed as signing, forty million guaranteed for injuries. Still don't know what that means. Eighteen million arriving being a signing bonus. It makes them the highest paid tight end by a wide margin, surpassing Gronk. But guess what happened next. Right after that signing, Travis Kelsey got a deal done.

Interesting interesting numbers here, four years, fifty seven million dollars keeps him in case for the next six seasons. The deal is worth between fourteen and fifteen million per year and new money average. Kelsey older uh than Kiddle. He's turning thirty one in October, but he had two years left on his deal. And Greg riddle me this because you're good with the cap numbers and things like that, or you're the closest to being a competent in this

realm on our podcast. The Chiefs had no room, had no cap space according to figures that were public a couple of months ago. And then they signed Patrick Mahomes to a half billion dollar deal and then made the tight end travels Travis Kelsey the second highest paid tight end in league history. How did they do it? They backloaded them. They are not you know, Patrick Mahomes especially is not making that much money in cash or anything.

Over the next two years. He got a bump, But once you spread that money over the ten years of the Mahomes contract, he actually saved a little money with that half a billion dollar contract. And then Kelsey, it's the same similar thing where they're pushing a lot of the guarantees into the future. They're spreading the money out. They did not have to do this. This was absolutely um a move that they are telling Travis Kelsey how much they value him, that they think they're getting a

solid deal on him long term. Um. But that Patrick Mahomes contract, which was very team friendly, as strange as that sounds, I think made it more possible for them to sign Chris Jones and for them to sign Travis Kelsey, and uh that that's all part of the mix. Like the guarantees are coming later in the deal, they're pushing a lot of money into the future. You're smiling with Dan. I mean, we're in a place now to where, you know,

all team players all around the league. You've got these guys that they will spend the whole off season talking about the money they should be making. They want to be the highest paid this or that, and their team goes four and twelve. The Chiefs are very dangerous right now because they have three super key components that this offseason agreed to team friendly super team friendly deals that

allow allows this nucleus to stay together. It's team friendly in the sense that there's no signing bonus for for any of them. You've got Kelsey's breakdown over the years. I mean it's I'm not saying it's bad for the player either than making a ton of cash, but you're not gonna find a lot of teams where the players talked about, we just want to be here, we want to keep this together. I think the Seahawks um had to had to sign a bunch of guys to a

bundle deals years ago their whole defense. But you know, it's so hard to keep it together with this case. You can look at Mahomes and Kelsey, and I think Kelsey is the He's not going to fade in the next year or two. The way that he you look at his career, I just think he's he's gonna live through most of this contract. It's his third one. I loved the deal for the Chiefs and maybe a little less so for Kelsey. Two years left. Usually get paid with two years left. I mean, it's a type of

contract that Patriots never get. Rob Gronkowski and I and I was tweeting about this, and like people had a conversation sort about, Okay, Kittle got way more than the next highest paid tight end in the league, but he's still getting less than the top ten wide receivers. It doesn't really make sense. And I think it goes back to Rob Gronkowski, who signed a contract in the after two years of his contract to start his career. Um

that he played the entire thing out. He was by far the best tight end in the league, and uh, he was dramatically underpaid. I understood why he took the contract at the time. It was only two years into his career, three years off of a back surgery that people thought was chronic, and he was setting himself up for the rest of his life. But the Patriots weren't given contracts like this that the Chiefs gave to Travis Kelsey.

That's for sure. It speaks to the culture of fear and intimidation that was going on behind the scenes when the Patriots were special, when Belichick held all the talking about Tom Brady Rob Gronkowski, the two greatest players in the history of their positions, signing way below market deals. At the time, people thought that they were taking a huge risk because he had just got surgery. Continues to

resonate to this day, hurting players in the walls. Because Bill wanted what Bill wanted, he got it, He got those rings, and he got those guys under contract. It's kind of silly, though, that tight ends make that much less. It doesn't really make less than Jarvis Landry. He's to me, he's as valuable as any single wide receiver in the NFL. Right, But there's probably like four or five tight ends that

we're talking about that deserve these big wide contracts. Well, of course, but every I mean, the position itself shouldn't as a whole. Elevated ends don't do anything. He's the most important pass catcher in their offense. He is one of the most important blockers on their offense, so he affects all phases of the game. Uh, maybe that's something that gets a drest than time. But if it's not

happening for Kittle. Now, I don't know who it's gonna have to be that's going to get that wide receiver money. Let's move on. Everson Griffin off the market. The four time pro bowler has signed with the Dallas Cowboys after ten years with the Vikings. He signs a one year

deal worth six million dollars. We're getting wild now, by the way over on the dot com in terms of I know, we wanna make sure all the males are fed on who did the reporting, but we got a triple We've got a triple source attribution here according to rap Sheet and Tom Pellicero and Jane Slater, all three of them have reported this, so I think it feels safe. We triple sourced our own reporting there within our own building.

That's the next level. Usually as as an insider, I'll tell you go for the triple source, and that comes from three sources outside the building. What we're doing, what we're doing here at the NFL dot com is we're triple sourcing internally before so that would be nine sources outside the building three times three unless unless you know, the same insiders are getting peppered by the same sources, which I think would that that probably feels likely to

and they're all Steven Jones. Basically, it feels like a move where I think Tom and Jane, you know, kind of broke it together and then Ian just tries to jump in and get his name in there. How about this just for the sake of a copy, because Mark, you and I remember this on the desk and we when we are all the A T N writers, why don't we just create a person like a Frankenstein Ian Pellis later we don't have to put all these names. I like the idea of that. Don't anyway, I doubt

that you will. Let's get the focus back on ball thirty two years old Griffin. We know he can play. He's had some off the field um issues that uh lad to struggles for him at the end of his Minnesota run or or took him off the field. But Mark, the feels like a really nice value add for the Cowboys who get a proven player at a cost that is well below what you would expect a player of Griffin's ability. I love it for Dallas. I mean, we talked about the fact that there really just wasn't someone

across from DeMarcus Lawrence that the pass rush was weak. Um, you put them on a line that also has Gerald McCoy don Terry po. I think this was a wonderful move for Dallas at at a great cost for one year. They have sort of NFC title game vibe to me if things go right, and you know, Griffin, Griffin has talked about like he with those issues that he dealt with two years ago, that he is continuing to work with the right people to make sure that that doesn't

bubble up again. You know, not super sure what's going on with all that, but last year he was very productive, and I think it's kind of it's it's a loss that after being linked to returning to the Vikings all along and so many changes in Minnesota that they that they didn't get Everson Griffin back and he goes to Dallas, a team that probably will vie for a division title, were with the Vikings for a wild card spot and potentially could be the difference here. Well, the Vikings didn't

want him. I don't know what the story is there. He's certainly one of the most productive players for the Vikings over the last ten years, including last year he had more knockdowns QB not like QB hits uh than Nick Bosa and Aaron Donald. He was in the top twenty in hurries to he's in you know, top ten in knockdowns and and had eight sacks too, So so

something was going on. But they had no interest in bringing him back because why do you think though, because they mentioned that they were open to it months ago, So maybe it was a mutual thing, but they certainly weren't interested in paying them very much money or ust they would have. I mean they gave they gave like nine million dollars to a nose tackle and Michael Pierce from Baltimore. Uh, they're starting, uh a seventh rounder from three years ago at defensive end and Dallas, who I

thought was really thin upfront. They still have very much a boom er bus kind of defensive line. Is McCoy and Poe free agents and ald and Smith and Griffin all gonna work together. Well, I don't know, those are all kind of like upper aged guys, you know, at the back half of their gear. But they all were pretty productive last year on paper like that could be the key to their team. If that defensive line is great, uh, they could fly and and if not, then the secondary,

which which doesn't look nearly as great, could could get exposed. Mark, this is not really related, although it as Cowboys related. You mentioned that they could be a team you see gets to the NFC Championship Game. Do you realize, boys and listeners, that the Dallas Cowboys have not even made the conference championship game in the NFC in a quarter

century getting to the Super Bowl. They haven't even gotten to the NFL's version of the Final Four in twenty five years since they won the Super Bowl in the I mean they were perfectly there was how how more milk toast could the Jason Garrett experience have been? And they hung around with that much longer than some teams would. But I am aware of that because I think that, um, the draping over Jerry Jones for a long time has been all, you know, all the hoopla draping the team

like they take our shots on Jason Garrett. But Jason Garrett got there in two thousand and ten. There were before that. It's on it's I think pre midway through Garrett's career. I think Jerry Jones and then you're throwing Steven Jones. Let the front office change some of their strategies a little bit. Their drafts improved, and they have the roster now to get to an NFC title game if things go right. And had a good quarterback though for fifteen years now in a row. So that's so

that's a disappointment. That's stat I think, if not a surprise to Dallas fans, that's for sure. That is like mentioned every morning on Dallas radio. It's kind of the John Abraham uh stat for the Jets that the Jets have not drafted a pass rusher since John Abraham. And by the way, the ND I've seen that twice in copy regarding the Jets. Athletic Yeah, had it, and I've seen it twice in the build up to the season.

Connor Hughes, Yeah, of the athletic. No, the Jets have not had a pass rusher since the John Abraham trade in two thousand five. It's it's been a while. But uh, alright, another position though, So I can see why they they'd go elsewhere you don't really need. But you know what's crazy, Like even the Jets, who stink and they don't know how to do anything, it seems they went to the their conference title game twice in the last eleven years,

the Cowboys twenty five years. It's almost impossible, uh to believe, all right. The Falcons added Todd Gurley this offseason. They're hoping that he finds the fountain of youth. They're hoping that what the Rams believed that they once had a franchise altering talent running back, but knee issues made him a pedestrian player, and they decided to take a financial bath to just move on from Gurley. Dan Quinn and company welcome in Gurley. He will be limited, it appears,

once the team gets into legitimate training camp practice. This from Vaughan McClure, great name of ESPN, and McClure added, and you could arch your eyebrow here that Gurley has been spotted limping while he walks at practice and wearing a one of those compression socks over his surgically repaired and arthritic left knee. However, this is how you This is the old you know Cecila on the fence and Sam McClure covered himself. He's also moved very well in practice.

M hm, sit on that fence. McClure, Well, I mean he's reporting he's watching you know, he's watching non padded practice. I'm just having some fun. Put put on the Todd Gurley tape. That's all I need to see, you know. It's it's this weird thing. People are like, well, if you know, if Todd Gurley like gets right, it's like, well, he's second in the league and carries over the last two years he's been on the field. We've seen a lot of Todd Gurley since midway through two thousand eighteen.

And he's and he's air and he's fine. He's a he's a running back who he ran hard. Last year didn't make many people miss. I would say was around league average for a starter. I'm surprised he got the contract he did. Like, it's wild to me he got about the same amount of money that Everson Griffin got and that Bruce Irvine got from Seattle. Seahawks fans, by the way, trying to convince themselves that they didn't want Everson Giffin. Please, you're paying Bruce Evan more money than Griffin.

Come on, what Seahawks were doing a right? I followed too much of Seahawks Twitter, and there was a lot of like, oh, well, we didn't want Everson Griffin. Anyways, I think it's very interesting that Greg Greg is very plugged in on certain Twitter feeds and pockets of Twitter, but then conveniently didn't even see certain tweets that we raise up into conversations. So I don't, I don't. I'd like to mute at all those people. Well, are you insinuating that he's lying to us that he sees that. No,

because I think Greg is. We all have our quirks, and I could see Greg muting and not seeing certain things. I could I could see that happening. And I don't have any more analysis on that topic. Alright, And other news, Good luck to you, Todd Gurley to gurl always seems like a good guy. I'm bummed because we live in l A and um, he really is kind of a dynamic, charismatic type dude, it seems, and he should have been

a big part of the city's sports landscape. But man, he's still sport read ads or is that power aid whatever it is? Those ads? I think it's on during the NBA. It's every five seconds, and it's like, hey, it's the biggest stars in sports, you know. It's like Bryce Harper and whoever, and Todd Gurley, and I was like, huh, it's interesting that girl is still in there those billboards. What I hope it wasn't Powerade, Like Powerade is like

the Wrangler jeans to Gatorade's levies. Maybe it's Gatorade. I don't know. Uh. In other news, the Bills do some business. They give their left tackle Dion Dawkins a four year, sixty million dollar extension. Rap sheet and rap sheet alone boarded. The deal is worth sixty million with thirty four million guaranteed. This is another hit by the front office in Buffalo, a two thousand, seventeen second round pick who was entering

the final year of his contract. So you you know, you play out your deal and you get to the final year, then your team takes care of you. It's not that complicated. Now he's tied to Buffalo through Hey, what are you trying? What are you trying to say? Um, what do you think? Oh, it goes back to Jamal Adams. Yeah, we'll get to Jamal in a second. But it's a little bit of patients. You know, Axel Rose taught us about patients on the part of the point. Yeah, yeah, patience. Anyway,

Dawkins has started forty three games and three years in Buffalo. Wait, but he's started the same amount of money, the same amount of games as Jamal Adams, right, and of him start they took care of is that during the final year of his So this would be the time to pay Jamal Adams I think by that logic, right, Well, we didn't have the opportunity because the Dallas Cowboys called my GM, and my GM picked up the phone and that was it. That was the end of the relationship.

A lot of money this is this is kind of gets to my Kittle thing, like you just have to be kind of like an average starting left tackle. Maybe Dawkins is a little better than that. He's a good young player, he's a good starter. If you find a left tackle, you just keep him. But he's kind of getting the same as George Kittle money that I guess that just it just is interesting to me how how

that works. Well, I just think there's no questions about the left tackle market and the tight end market should have tight ends and then st like super tight ends, like there's four or five of them. Those guys make that money. That should feel a little too close to it does even even if I just like many STD ease as possible. How about pg tes pretty good tight ends get less in v G T E s the

SDD format two SDD offense, that's what we like. They're very stable on the offensive Lion buffalo, that's what you're looking for. This was a terrible offensive line for years and years, and it is one of the hardest things to kind of rebuild. I think it's gonna be your boy, Joe douglas biggest challenge here. And I don't know if they're a great offensive line, but they're stable, and I

don't think they're gonna be fine. They're not gonna be the reason that the Bills season goes off track or not. Speaking of Jamal Adams, defensive coordinator of the Jets, Greg Williams got himself. He stepped in it a little bit.

In his Zoom meeting with the media on Thursday, Adams came up and the context was, you know, what's going to be the difference between the way Greg Williams used Jamal Adams as a jack of all trades on his defense and and what's gonna happen now that Adams is playing for a different team over the of the Northwest.

Here's how the eloquent Greg Williams put Jamal made get bored there because they don't use their safety type things and all the different complexities of maybe um, maybe uh, you got it right, not showing what they're doing as much as we do. I mean, can I can I speak for the grant the triple g's out here. Greg Williams is one of us that that's stumbling he had was him realizing as he was talking, Oh, I just stepped into it again. I just for no reason, I

said something that was unrelated to the question. And it wasn't really mean spirited, I don't think, but I just whoops, I just stepped into it. Well, and I think I already gave them the headline that the headline, Jamal Adams will be bored in Seattle. I gave him the headline. Now I've got to find a way to massage this. And he he wasn't prepared to do the massaging, and

things went off the rails like mid stream. He's realizing that he's taking down the architects of the Legion of Boom and like cam Chancellor responded to this, Earl Thomas probably has a few words to say about it. Greg Williams took Dr Brial Peppers and played him about forty yards deep for an entire season two years ago in Cleveland. What mean you knew what he meant? But I know, I don't think he was mean spirited. But I mean, it's just like he just you know what, these there's

too many people talking all the time. Williams is a excellent defensive coordinator. I mean, I really do think he's great. The Jets, who had almost no talent last year, besides Jamal Adams, we're a top ten defense. Me and West used to be arguing about Greg Williams on this podcast back in uh now it could be you and West. It would be fun. He's also the most successful head coach in the history of the Cleveland Browns present. So this man has had some football success. Well, he's gonna

be your head coach in about two months. So you're signing up for the same ride. And then he'll be gone and the Dan defends Greg Williams. Uh campaign will end at that point. People will have no more. By the way, Pete Carroll said, you know, we're so we're so simple here and basic, you know we probably won't get it to any of that stuff, you know, that might be a good idea. And then later and you could tell Pete Carroll was was annoyed because he brought

it up out of nowhere. They asked what Adams brought to uh the team as a pass rusher and he said, well, he's not bringing Greg Williams with him, that's for sure, and late later said the Seahawks defense that doesn't make as many mistakes as that Greg Williams defense. So it was good. They're all just speaking, they're all speaking facts. I think the Jets had a better defense than the Seahawks last year, but I'm sure the the Seahawks will probably have a better defense than the Jets because he's

an impact player. Um, all right, finally in the news, do we hit everything? I think we got everything? Not a huge not a huge news. The helmets are on, but they're not really like tackling, and so I think it feels like Monday is like the the almost unofficial start, like real football. Do we hit the Bengals? Then thing? Yes we did. Hey, Ricky, was that did you check the ballistics on that? That was a tranquilizer dart? Right? Yeah sounds yeah. I was for sure. I don't want

Peter or anything coming after us. Almost it was definitely a tranquilizer Dart. I mean that that would have Peter coming after you, wouldn't it there. I don't think they're tranquilizer dart all scope of you know. I think we're trying to take these as safe place. He's still bring back out the truck. It looks like we could be bagged another one. I mean, I I respect the Bengal tiger. Put put any one of us in a room with a Bengal tiger. We'll see, we'll see how many jokes

and sound drops you're doing. Wait, what's your take here? I'm saying us versus a Bengal tiger, we're stuck in a room. You're not gonna be It was arguing with you on that taking them to a sanctuary, a safe place. Mark. You're absolutely right what Greg is failing to understand here, because I see Greg is doing the thing where he's going towards the Wow, this bits a little too far beyond the pal know what we're taking what we're doing

with the Bengals. We're taking him to a sanctuary and we're taking care of them bagging and tagging them, and then we set them free at the end of the season. Just it's a little nap, a little tranquilize, or just what are you trying to accomplish in these months? Well, we stuffed them into a den, and apparently you do not do that with a bangal tiger. That's for lions.

So we had already we had already liked Greg Williams stepped in it, and now we need to kind of retrace their steps, step out of the poop and try to we have to rectify the situation. I mean, Dan, your final step is to drop them off in downtown bomb Bay. I think we might that might need some rewriting that that just sounds like it'll human chaos. We have time. Oh before we go, we have breaking news. This courtesy of the Latest Banger from Nick shook Over

on NFL dot Com. Yeah, boy, Mark Baker Mayfield admits he lost himself in ten, but he feels better getting back to the basics. I like everything I'm hearing out of Cleveland, including the fact that you know, I feel like this wasn't even allowed back then. But um Stefanski, Kevin Stefanski, their coach, got on a plane and flew to Texas to hang out with Baker Mayfield for a bunch of time in February, and uh everything since Baker

Mayfield's body looks tight, Arrow up, Arrow up. He also said, you know, they asked them about, you know, kind of all those challenges they have, and he said, We've said, as a team, the more time we do complaining, that's the less time we have to work. This is a new that's my mantra. This Erica, do we still have another breaking news? I got another one for you. Let's do it. I think our network show started right. Our micropod must get Let's do it, Erica. Tavon Austin is back.

You thought he was gone when he signed that big contract on Hard Knocks four years ago. He's on the forty Niners. They signed J. J. Nelson to their Their receiver group is not looking too good with Deebo Samuel Hurt. By the way, you're looking for a reason for the forty Niners and take a step back, counting the count a lot on Brandon Aiyuk, a rookie receiver, and wait, you also have them. You had their secondary on the come down. Well, they look like the best team in

football in some ways. But I'm trying to look for some ways that maybe they could run into prop. You're signing Tavon Austin. Davia Nelson one of my favorite tropes ever, and it finally stopped this year because he only now he's just a camp body more or less. But Tavon Austin, uh when I don't know who it was. It was maybe one of the Jones boys, maybe Stephen Jones. So that Tavon Austin last summer was gonna get like fifteen to twenty touches the game, and I think he had

fifteen for the entire season. That is a former top ten overall pick. Tavon Austin, who and still one of the most shocking moments in Hard Knocks history, got a fat contract extension h during that Hard Knocks season. I can't believe Jeff's Fisher and all Jeff Fisher Diden survived. I can't believe less Sneed survived that contract. Well West Sneed friend of the show. But I will say there are a couple of contracts out there in Ramsy. That's not how I operate. Mark. He got a call it

as you see it, you know, we don't. We could talk about friends all day on this show. I mean, we've just we've just put like a wreath of flowers on Greg William's head. So I don't buy a word of it. I mean, it's all about what works for today. I did not put a wreath of flowers on Greg Williams head. Times you have since last offseason. He's a good,

divisive coordinator and the best Browns coach of all time. Well, I see what you're trying to do, but I you know, I'm just not going to fall for it this time. He's the best coach on the Jets staff, which means they're totally disorganized. It's fine, they'll be fine. Twelve and four Shock the World Baby, Alright, alright, be again. We got a network show coming up, so check that out Saturday morning. D v R it. In fact, if you have it already recorded. I checked my own direct TV.

It will record, but double check if you have a season pass uh and and give us some love or watch it in real time. It's very early potentially, but do it and we'll be back Monday with another episode of this their audio show, Let's Go. Dan Hands is signing off Quiet Story Bilbos, Ricky, Holly West, Holly, Yeah, Gill my day,

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