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Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL. My name is Dan hansis here in Los Angeles on the day before Independence Day, when yes, you should absolutely be wearing your sunscreen skin health people get it. Joining me. Just one other man today, Mark Sessler is doing whatever Mark Sessler does when he's on vacation. But here a man not in America but in the Orient, the far East, a man who went dark last week as he became one with the culture of Tokyo, the great metropolis of
the East. But now here he is contributing to the West.
Greg Rosental, I feel like we got to update this music, but I appreciate it. I have become one with the culture here. But these colors don't run. Dan, and some might say I'm the most American, the most patriotic of any American, because I've been celebrating the last seven hours. It's already fourth of July here. I woke up at midnight. I've just been you know, watching WWE since for the last seven hours. I'm already ahead of you in my fourth of July.
Soe for people listening, you would think that Greg wouldn't be in a totally white room in a gray polo shirt. He's actually dressed like Apollo Creed before the drago fight. That's how patriotic Greg rosehal is. Is there something wrong with this song? Is this? You said it is outdated?
I don't know, it's just you know, it is very it's very traditional Japanese. We could get some jpop or something now. This this reminds me the most Japanese I ever feel on these trips to go to the own sen which is like a like a hotel, but with hot springs. So you go in the bath there, you go in the hot spring baths, and you get out of the hot spring baths and you put on your rope and you're walking. You're just totally.
At peace.
At that point, you've been blasted by hot water for a half hour. You're just as chill as can be. And when you're walking in the hallway back to your room in your yukata in the rope, they are playing music kind of like this, and I'm like, this is about as Japanese as it gets.
Are you how to approach it? Are you the only westerner that's there? Are you the only white guy? That's walking through these hallways, do you get looks like are you accepted there? H?
Well, they don't. Not a lot of English speakers, and it's kind of an unwritten rule, you don't. You don't speak in these in the baths anyways, because everyone's naked. It's not like a talking, talking kind of place. But to answer your question, yes, I'm usually the only Westerner. Very often it's not crowded at all. There's barely anyone there. But last weekend, actually it was. It was quite crowded and I was getting a lot of looks. But I think that was because of my awkward tattoo covers I
had to put over my shoulder I don't want. Maybe that was in my head, but yeah.
Why did you have to cover your tattoos?
Well, they have signs everywhere that you're not allowed to go in with tattoos. It's like an old yakuza thing. But supposedly it's it's more if you put the effort to put it over, that's enough. It's more the thought that counts. And you're not supposed to have the full body like I'm in the mob yakuza stuff, which I do not have.
Holy God, So based on my knowledge of the culture of Japan, which is based on like six movies and a TV show. It is very important to bring great respect to things, and it's also it's very easy to bring great shame upon things, and you want to avoid bringing great shame upon family, and you want to bring great respect. So a tattoo brings great shame upon the Emica family. To see Greg walking around with the ink, that would be no respect, shame.
So that's why you put the cover run. I mean, I don't really go down with her with her father, my father in law anyways, so I don't know if he's if he's seen it too much. Walker's there too though, often my son, So I'm not the only not the only way.
I mean, while we're here, you're you're a not practicing but you're a Jewish man and you're not allowed to be buried in a Jewish cemetery either. With tattoos. I mean, you break so many rules. Greg, That's why you're the bad boy of the West. That's why they call you that.
Is that a I didn't even know that's a Jewish rule? But what yeah, I'm I'm bridging and barriers here, bridge and boundaries but what are you doing for the fourth You're back in Alsa Gondo.
I got, yeah, this is this is you know very you know, hot dogs, Hamburger's, apple pie, fireworks, swimming pool. It's gonna be nice. It's gonna be nice to be with the family. My wife and two boys. They did a little extra time in Texas. I was home alone, which was nice for five days, but then you miss you miss things. So the family's back together as of this morning, and Harrison is opening up a lemonade stand
in our driveway. And I spent much of my last day here helping like to build and paint this lemonade stand for Harrison. So tomorrow will be a big day of commerce.
That's a big moment in every kid's life. Well not every kid. I never did it. I'm probably too lazy to have my kids do it, but maybe we'll do it.
He's agreed to give half of his earnings to homeless people. Is how he put it, half to homeless people. I said, all right, half, okay, how about how about all that? He's like, no, not all, okay. Half. It is July third, this is our last show for a week and a half, so we're going to get you. There's not much to catch you up on. If you're listening to the show. We're part of your routine and you're a fan of
our work, so we really appreciate you. Because typically this is when the NFL despite and this is where Mark would chime in. Greg, despite all its efforts, which are enormous, the NFL cannot figure out how to crack this time of year right now, And despite the gains it's made in March, February, April, May, June, it has not figured out July, at least the first three weeks. So it's pretty quiet.
No, this is nice. I often this time of year, and it annoys them. I bet that the NBA has a nice little time of year. I often this time of year. I'm just happy I'm not an NBA reporter who goes from the NBA Finals right to the draft, right to free agency, which is a wild worldwide.
So that's what that's sending.
Now. There's nothing good on. Yeah, But I mean they do it like we like. The draft is the next week after the final, and free agencies the next week. There's no break at all. They smash it up all together. The NFL has a nice way of just stretching it out and never losing your interest. But yeah, by the time we're back next week, we're we're almost almost feeling all the way back, and we'll have some news and all that stuff.
Yes, So today we'll yeah, whatever news is floating around, we're gonna get also, Yes, with the fourth of July upon us, we are going to talk about things that we're feeling patriotic about in the NFL A little bit nebulos, but we'll make it work or we won't, and then the next day will come and everybody will forget that this podcast ever existed. I feel like we're in a good pocket here, Greg.
I feel like this is gonna be a fun segment. And I think, you know, we talk about the downside sometimes of this job here, that we should have a lot of pride in the in the n f NL, this sport that we cover and people. I look at the I look at the you know, the downloads. People listen to these episodes just as much as any other time of year. So we love the.
People, absolutely, we do love the people. Let's hit the news. All I know is you're messing with me. You got problems, That's all I know. Greg, does that bring back any memories for you, because it certainly did for me when I stumbled upon it about forty eight minutes.
Ago, specifically that clip.
No, I want to say, and longtime listeners of the show will probably be able to back me up on this. That was one of the earlier like kind of drops that had a lot of legs on our show because when ATM first started in twenty thirteen, that's when JJ Watt ruled the world. And it just so happens, GREGI that I in looking for a drop that tied into our first news story, which is JJ Watt is joining CBS as he begins his post playing days another career.
I fell down a wormhole watching. I don't know if NFL Network still airs the show, but it's a great show miked Up. I don't know if it's still like a program on our schedule, but it's still you know.
I think it is actually Okay, good watch it.
Look it up in your local listenings, this JJ Watt. The thing about miked Up with any sport is you don't you never know what you're gonna get when you mic somebody up, and you hope the person not only is engaging, and there's some good nugs to get on the audio side of things. But if you can get like a big time performance from a player, then you really hit it out of the park. So I'll always think about that first drop you heard Week thirteen, twenty
fourteen against the Tennessee Titans. While with the Houston Texans we're talking peak JJ Watt Eric behind the virtual glass hit another one? What you got ten?
You got some?
Let's see it. I'll show you, I'll show you. Make sure you gotta go get some popcorn, maybe some ju jub's, a slushy snow cap, perhaps maybe some snow caps. I don't know, You're gonna be comfortable. Today was the show. Was the show. So that's what during pregame stretching. And I always thought that Watt was kind of a fascinating figure and it does tie into his post playing career now where yeah, he's he was undeniably a corny guy, uh and maybe the biggest cornball like in the league
in some ways. But his play was so enormous. In that game, he had like three sacks, including a strip sack and a fumble recovery, a touchdown reception from Ryan Fitzpatrick of all people, and uh, the way the way he's walking around and none of the guys are even really paying attention to him as he's saying this stuff.
Start that he chest been a young DeAndre Hopkins to start that.
Very young, but that I thought captured the Watt vibe very nicely.
Yeah, I I feel like I think about Wes a lot when we talked JJ Watt because we were just I think we were all fascinated by this guy. I've said it before in the show. I still think he's the best defensive player I've ever seen at when he was at his peak, I actually would still even take him over Aaron. Maybe it was just more obvious when you were watching it. He was like the first guy that I just decided I would watch every single snap
and it was always entertaining. Michael Parsons has gotten close, but peak Watt was better than anyone else, and Wes loved him, and Wes, like a lot of guys who kind of made it about themselves, had like a love hate thing where he hated the corny side of JJ Watt, but love loved the player. And he feels like he's landing at the right place jj Watt at CBS.
He has ended at the right place. CBS is kind of where he should be. Here's the quote from Mont. I will be working on CBS this fall. Really a great opportunity. I'm very much looking forward to it. I'm very much looking forward to talking NFL with all you fans this fall. Interesting. He's thirty four years old. He retired after a twelve year NFL career, wrapping it up
in Arizona. That run, Greg and that was the twenty fourteen season where I just played that from I think you could argue and there will be old heads who could point to guys from way back in the day. Of course, LT at his heights. That's another guy that you look at. Aaron Donald more recently. You know that twenty fourteen he finished second in the MVP vote. He finished first in Defensive Player of the Year First team All Pro. He had twenty and a half sacks, twenty
nine tackles for lost, fifty one QB hits. He was legitimately unblockable. And I'm with you that I think, at least since we've been doing this show, I give him even the edge over Donald. And I don't know if that's yeah, maybe unfair to Donald, but Watt to me was like the guy, the guy that could. He never disappeared, and he was just a constant, constant menace. So I don't know if he'll be any good in the booth
or on the set. In fact, it does make me a little nervous, Like he's joining that CBS team, there's just gonna be a lot of stilted laughter, like a lot. But maybe he'll surprise us. You never know what these guys.
Let's be real. Unless he has some viral clips, we will never watch that. We will never see what he has to say. And I'm always a little worried Win. It's like, yeah, I didn't want to like commit too much. He's just like flying in for like big games and playoffs, and you know, he's like a part time studio guy with with Boomer and Bill Kawer. So I don't know if we're gonna get a lot of gems. It doesn't
seem like he's going in all the way. But I remember writing those like MVP columns where I would like, you know, for on NFL dot com, where you'd rank who they're the top five candidates every week, And I was always pushing like if he doesn't win the MVP, no defensive player ever will or should because he's just
better than anyone. But he was also going up against peak like Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning seasons in two of his best seasons, So I get it why he didn't win, but he was as good as I've ever seen.
Yeah, I don't know if we'll ever see it. I think I think lt was the last defensive player if I'm not mistaken to win MVP back and I'm going to say eighty six, Eric, maybe you got fact check me on that one. And if Watt couldn't do it during that run, I don't think anybody ever will. And there's just you know, we did the Superstar Club last week, Greg, and there are seven guys that I have in the club,
and there's a decent chance. And there are certain guys like a Lamar Jackson for example, Justin Herbert who have a lot of work to do, but there's a chance like all seven of those guys could be in the Hall of Fame one day. So when you have that much quarterback talent in the league, in addition to the other skill players that these quarterbacks are throwing it to the idea of a defensive player getting it. You would have to do something that's never been done before. Maybe
it would take twenty five sacks. You'd have to set some type of record or some hallowed record. Otherwise, I think finishing second MVP and taking DPO wise the best you could do.
I also appreciate it. As one of the few viewers of Arizona Cardinals in season hard Knocks, JJ Watt spent a lot of time in front of the NFL films cameras over the course of his career. He was sort of a full circle moment. He was very likable as the older kind of mentor guy and still a total badass, like still the best player on their defense for long stretches. So he was one of the highlights last year.
All right, I'll do it. I think he plays this year Sandwich.
I mean I would take that, yes, certainly, yeah, yeah, And.
Actually I like it better just in this one on one setting, because I don't like jj Watt's broadcasting career. I don't want to go in with two feet on it. But it just makes so much sense. If you know, if the Steelers are nine and six in December, and he has a chance to give them that little juice on the edge with his brother playing there, or insert another team that's looking for that one last piece with JJ Watt with zero titles. Pass up with that opportunity.
There we go Sandwich, the first sandwich proposition of twenty twenty three, right there, Gregory Well.
Still, who was the guy you said was coming back last year? Antonio Brown, I'm still waiting for that sandwich.
I gave you that sandwich. It's sitting on your desk. You haven't been at the office a couple of weeks. It's probably really smelly. In other news, another guy that you know you can make a case for Canton is Buccaneers wide receiver Mike Evans, who is you know not in the Superstar Club. Some pushback if you do the old google Gregy we did last year. I did it again this afternoon. Superstar Club. There's just so much there's nothing's going on, so everyone's just writing aggregate stories off
the Superstar Club and Mike Evans not being in. God on people's radar, he has nine club he has nine straight thank you, one thousand yard receiving seasons. The record is Jerry Rice, who did it eleven straight years, and he told kPr C that that's what he's trying to do, trying to get that Rice record. He was also asked about the quarterback situation because Tom Brady's not there anymore, and Mike Evans has caught passes for bad quarterbacks in
the past or mid tier quarterbacks in the past. That's gonna happen this year because it's Kyle Trask, former second round pick who's gotten very little run in his pro career so far, and Baker Mayfield, who's basically turned into a journeyman. Here is what Evans said about that underwhelming duo. Kyle's improved a lot.
I'm really impressonate what I've seen with Baker. Whoever the quarterback will be. You know, I'm positive they're gonna make the right choice.
And you know we're gonna win some games. Are they gonna win two games this year? Well, they'll win some. It's not really a guarantee. For Mike. You could win Sun and go four and thirteen.
I mean, this is like the mildest take hot take possible. But I'm shocked that they're predicted by Vegas to have the lowest win loss total in that division that they're like kind of the heavy favorites to come in last I see that division as more like they're all anyone could win that division and it wouldn't like the Buccaneers might not be that bad. They won the division last year. I know it was at eight and nine, but they have a pretty good looking defense. They have a good
trio of wide receivers. Could they win seven or eight games again? I could? I could see that. I mean the quarterback thing is so ugly that it's hard going into the season believing that you're gonna win a lot of games. But the rest of the team is as good or better than the rest of the division. In terms of the roster, it's not a bad roster.
I mean, the corps is another year older. It's not twenty nineteen, twenty twenty anymore. Were you like, were you overly impressed with the defense under Bowls last year?
No?
No?
I mean, so then you're really asking them to lead the way unless you think that Traskan Baker can unlock this offense. I would think that maybe Evans and Godwin will still eat because they're going to be behind in a lot of games and they're going to be throwing the ball a lot, so I maybe feel good about Evans getting to his tenth straight one thousand yard season if he could stay healthy. But I do not have a good feeling about this at all. For the.
I I am genuinely excited about watching like every NFL team entering the season. That's why I always say Week one is my favorite week, and then they a few of them slowly get less interesting as it goes. But the bucks are pretty low. And I used to do a watchability rankings thing going into the season. The Bucks gotta be thirty, thirty one or thirty two in terms of like, there's not a lot of intrigue there. In terms of exciting Week one teams, I'm ready to watch.
Yeah, that's a that's a tough sell. Spinning back real quick to the media minute, ESPN made a ton of cuts. By the way, you're as a football fan, you're gonna have a different experience watching pro football coverage. Susie colber Keishawn Johnson, Steve Young, Matt Hasselbeck, Todd McShay, their draft guy. Among the ESPN dismissals, they you know they've been cutting back. Mickey Mouse has asked them to really get things under
control in terms of salaries. So a lot of those are big names and and all of them are gone.
I just want to give a special shout out to Susie Colber as a Jets fan, because I I always have so much respect for how she handled the Namath incident in two thousand and three when Namath was drunk on air and you know, went for the kiss, and how she knew that he had just buried himself and was so kind of sweet and forgiving and you know, didn't let him off the hook, but also didn't throw Ghastlin on the fire and make things worse for a guy that was bottoming out in his life. So shout
out to Susie Colber. I hope she lands on her feet. I hope she lands with NFL media, and I hope everybody else does too. It's hard out there in this game, buddy.
Yeah, it's not funny. But the reason I put Colbert this thing into possibly talking about because it's awkward to talk about people losing the jobs. It sucks. We've had layoffs this offseason and it sucks. I was Susie Colber just because she's she's been there for twenty six, twenty seven years. She's a pretty legendary figure. I remember this show that when they were like launching ESPN two. It was her in More and as a football junkie would
I would always watch that show. She was great. I don't know, it's a it's a weird time in our industry. We're just trying to stay afloat.
Yep. Absolutely, and like I said, I hope everybody lands on their feet in short order. Juwan Bentley and other news linebacker signs a two year extension with the New England Patriots, So he's sticking around. Greggy, you're a Bentley guy. I just I could tell you're a Bentley guy. Yeah, I'm really well, possibly be in the news rundown.
Well, I know it was. I said it could be a quick one. But I've never been so wrong about a guy as Juwan Bentley. What a stiff he was for the first couple of years. Another guy that Wes. It reminds me of Wes too, because we were like, what does Bill Belichick see in this guy? He cannot stay on the field and passing downs. He was just getting killed, and he stayed, and he stayed, and he's gotten better and better, and he had his great best
season last season. I think he might be a team captain until Belichick saw something where we did in this defense, it's pretty deep Dan. On paper, it looks pretty good. I don't know about building around defense in twenty twenty three, but on paper, it looks pretty good. And Bentley got that got that like Patriots. It looks like a good deal for the player, but it's really not gonna look that good in a year or two type of deal.
There are people that are using permanent marker to etch the Patriots in and last place in the AFC East. I am not one of those people. Maybe I'm using pencil if I had to do the otder, because eventually you can't just say it, you know, you can't just say, oh, you know the Patriots, everybody's sleeping on the Patriots. You have to then look at how you see things. And I do think the Dolphins could be a very good team. I think the Jets have the potential will be a
very good team. I think the Bills obviously are still a contender. But would I be stunned if the Pats are hanging around five hundred in November and have a
chance at the playoffs. I wouldn't be there's still too much there's too much good there, even if it's no longer great or special, as I've brought up in the past, Gregy to totally write them off as I'm not saying super Bowl contenders, but you know, I think what you're alluding to with Mac Jones, who you have as a making the leap candidate and defense and a Belichick who's you know, got his back up against the wall a little bit, Yeah, the Pats could be frisky this year.
And Belichick's been laying it on thick like Keate. He said something in this offseason how he didn't think they really had their even though they won the Super Bowl in his second year, he didn't think they really became who they were until year four of a program and that's when they and I kind of agree as a Patriots fan that that was the first real great Patriots
team two thousand and three. And people thought he threw that out there now as if this is like year four of the post Brady program, that he's had his time to set it all up and now this is where it all pays off.
Eric from behind the virtual glasses Lawrence Taylor won in eighty six last defensive Player of the Year. Eric Dickerson came in second that year. Eric, can you jump in real quick?
I mean, and by the way LT fans out there's like, how could you say, jaj you wat's the best defensive player?
Earl?
It was a LT of course. Well, like by everything I heard, that's absolutely true. I'm sure he was the best. I was like, seven, how can I possibly say that he was better? I'm saying based than what we saw, Thank you, Greg. I yeah, just that was on my mind ever since.
Yet It's okay, It's okay. It's your first show back. Your your hot is a pistol and I like it.
Eric.
Just want to let you know you obviously are doing a great job so far in the producer chair. Last week I caught some I caught some heat on Twitter from Bills fans because I said in a conversation that they had not gotten to the AFC title game under McDermott yet, right, apparently they did. You are the biggest Bills fan.
I know you know I saw that too, but I understood what you said. As he said, get back to they hadn't been the haven't been in two years.
Oh no, I very clearly. Yeah, I okay, misunderstanding there. I clearly said that they hadn't made it to the AFC TWN game yet, but they got beaten in twenty twenty. Yeah, so I was checking in the case, Eric, you had heard it, but you didn't want to jump in when there's an egregious era like that, please Yeah, yeah.
No, yeah I did.
I thought I saw the comments too, and I thought it was I understood it as because you you stopped and you're like, this is weird because we're saying get back to or get to It's like, right, they haven't been David. Yeah, they got you know, ousted early the last two years. So yeah, but yeah, that's the twenty twenty year. I block it off for my memory anyways, that it.
Was also COVID. The Bills kind of didn't really show up for that game. I know they scored some points, but it wasn't particularly competitive, So I don't. I think it's fine to forget that game.
Before you disappear. Eric. All I need is a record Buffalo Bills twenty and twenty three final regular season record, Uh need it? Gotta have it.
Eleven seven eleven six. I mean that you can't even Yeah, that's just okay, number run. If it's eleven and seven they lose their first game of the play. It's a rough prediction here.
Well on the spot eleven wins. Mark Sessler believes nine wins can win the AFC East, So you know that might be. It could be plenty of breathing room.
I mean, well, let's talk after Week one Monday Night. Let's see how everybody I have talked about it. It's like that first week it's it's gonna be sky's falling for one half. How good is the other half? And it's gonna be by about Tuesday afternoon, I'm gonna be.
Like, how about this, Greggy, your favorite week of the year? Week one, Monday Night football Bills It Jets Alan v. Rodgers. That's a football game.
Yeah, that's amazing. So glad they're not doing the doubleheader in Week one this year. It's just just that game. We might have to do a special you know, full team Hans, this Eric, everyone involved. Monday Night recap not not even wait for Tuesday.
The talking hens are already salivating. Man.
A couple of picks on either side, Rogers or Allen, somebody made me throws one late I don't know, two minute drill and screws over the team.
Yah. Listen, there are a lot of outcomes. One of those fan bases being in a panic feels right come Tuesday. But we have a few weeks still till we get there. Let's take a break and then we'll get patriotic. All right, Listen to that. That's one of those famous songs. It's the Yankee Doodle Dandy. Now it's what is that one? D dun? Don you know, don't do a dismissive shrug of your shoulders just because you're in Japan.
I just don't know the name of the song. So I'm just hoping you fill it in for me. I don't know.
That's the song. We have another job at.
The fourth of July parade, that's the song.
Yes. Independence Day is upon us, a federal holiday in the United States, commemorating the Declaration of Independence, which was ratified by the Second Continental Congress on July fourth, seventeen seventy six, establishing formerly the United States of America England. You can't have us no more. And that's a good job by the founding fathers. Now. So there's there's the patriotism on fourth.
Zip, very anti UK edition of the show.
I like it that that portion. Yes, I mean, there is a naughty history, but the Americans and the English have become great allies in many ways ever since. So that's the that's that's good. The US and Japan also very good place these days.
Not always case.
We are in a good place because because this game of pro football, Greg ee oh Man, does it stir the emotions, the pride patriotism.
I don't. Yeah, I don't even know where to start here. I have so many options. Actually, let's start with like a holiday, because because that's that's patriotic, and so that was the first thing I thought of when I thought of Fourth of julyfe was another holiday.
And the idea of patriotism, it's it's devotion to and vigorous support for one's own country. In this case, for this segment, we're referring to Football World, Land of Football, right, That's what we're That's what this is basically, Yeah.
Well just football. I mean, let's be real, okay, I look, being overly patriotic, that's almost a US stereotype. People people think the the Americans are a little too uh, too patriotic, little too jinguistic. Why all these flags every year? But you can have pride in your country. I'm sure every country has pride in the country. And you know, American football is kind of our sport. I know, baseball blah
blah blah, America's pastime, but like that's everywhere else. Like this is the thing that we do America the best. We are essentially the only it's dominant, And so I think it's okay to I'm saying it's okay to be a little prideful of American football because it is pretty uniquely American. And it makes me think of Thanksgiving, which is, to me, a uniquely American holiday. And that was the
first thing I thought about when just feeling patriotic. Give me, here's what I'm feeling patriotic for and looking forward to give me a little nine to thirty am West Coast kickoff on Thanksgiving. To me, that is America. I don't need to cook the bird. We're gonna go pick it up. It's open at eight am over at the at the place that cooks it for us. So I'm gonna go pick it up at eight thirty am. I'm gonna bring
my son. We're gonna have some muff line, and we're gonna drive back, and we're gonna get back in time to see the new America's team, Detroit Lions kickoff at nine thirty am. You wanted them out of Thanksgiving for years. Now it's come around and it's great that they've kept it. And I do I do love me a nine to thirty am West Coast kickoff on Thanksgiving. I just love ten am kickoffs every week, so that's I'm patriotic for that too. I just love an all day ten am
on the West Coast. I know East Coasters aren't aren't really vibing with this, but that to me is as American as it gets.
Full day of football that I always found, having lived, you know, nearly thirty years on the East Coast and now here, you know, twelve thirteen years on the West Coast, that twelve thirty kickoff, that's the only game you and it was always the Lions that you're you're feeling like, all right, I can watch this game. I know, I got a I got a polish furniture. I gotta do this. Got to bring the chairs up from downstairs. I have to help out. I have to run to the store
for mom. I got to do this. But I could watch that twelve thirty because the company's not coming over till four. And then it got always got very murky. That middle game was the Cowboy Game. I've missed it so many times over the years because it's right in the heart of Thanksgiving. And now the late game. Actually it's popped up obviously in the last decade or so. That's a better one. That's a great spot because it's like when you're settled after the long day here on
the West Coast. Yeah, that morning game that really kind of kicks you into things. And then you also get the Cowboy game before your company comes over. And then I say, Greg, they just like get ahead of this a little bit. You know, you cook the bird one year, just do it like it's nice. You know what I do? You know what the zeuser does. I have an air fryer outside and I put the turkey in there. It
takes like six hours or something to cook. And I got the TV set up and I'm watching football and checking in on the temperature of the bird every half hour or so. You know, hanging out with friends and family, and it's a very nice thing to do. It's a nice little combo platter.
I mean, Emmica's making some pies, she's making some sides. But now I'm not doing any challenge yourself to only one life. You're right, I will get through this just once about ever kicking. Okay, all right?
You know what I'm patriotic about.
Please?
Oh do you want to sit? No, you have anything else you want to add on that? Because I do agree.
That's a good job. That's good. That's it.
I am patriotic about an anniversary, the anniversary of the dumbest thing that's ever happened in the history of the NFL. I'm filled with such pride thinking back to what happened twenty years ago this October. I'm gonna read the article from Len Pascarelli, headline Punter out this week com a
maybe season lead. When rookie coach Jack del Rio placed a stump of oak in an axe in the Jacksonville Jaguars locker room a few weeks ago as the motivational technique symbolic of his theme to quote keep chopping wood. It was viewed as a sophomore technique by some veterans now, the move is likely to be regarded as a huge mistake. The Jaguars on Thursday lost Pro Bowl punter Chris Hansen for an undetermined amount of time. ESPN dot Com has learned that he will be sidelined four to six weeks
and could well miss the balance of the season. When the fourth year veteran was accidentally gashed on his right non kicking foot while wielding the acts taken to the hospital for a gash in his foot. I don't think he returned Greg twenty years ago that happened. I was thinking there have been crazy stories in the Aten era. This is a very bad memory around this time of year.
But I remember being in the newsroom in July when we learned that, and we're getting the details of Jason Pierre Paul's fireworks accident that cost him a part of his hand.
That was precat.
Everybody out there, do not do the fireworks thing this week. Just don't. It's not worth it. They're not that cool. Goes somewhere where they do it, and they know what they're do doing. That was a terrible, stunning, crazy story. This one is more under the side of coaches folly and Jack del Rio, who had some choice words about the insurrection years later, maybe not totally studying it was him that was behind it all.
That you would think this would have really hurt del Rio's career, like this feels like a borderline fireable offense. But he was around in Jacksonville for a while longer, got another head coaching job. Still is the defensive coordinator? I had the check. I was like, is he still the commander's coordinator because they've kind of been.
Feel like he's definitely still very active.
Yeah, he's still there. That was amazing. There's a lot of like if Twitter was around, type of stories that you wonder how it would be covered, and that that is high on the list.
When we're at the end of the story here, Greg, I have so much patriotism about this.
It is uniquely American lead dumb.
The accident apparently occurred during a team meeting that the Kickers were not mandated to attend. There's your mistake right there. You left the kickers to their own devices. Not surprisingly, the axe was removed from the locker room Thursday afternoon, and the tree stump will soon be gone as well. It was somewhat surprising, according to Pascarelli, the franchise officials and the league would permit the tree stump and the acts given the potential for the kind of incident that
transpired Thursday. The stump had garnered plenty of media attention. Final quote from Jack del Rio, who was sympathetic to the insurrection, I'll find another slogan. The message was understood. The thing was on its way out soon, but not soon enough. It was symbolic more than anything else.
Yeah, he didn't really back off, he said. The slogan'll live on. He didn't back off. I love Lehen Pascarelli tries to blame the league on it, that they allowed it. What they heard some talk about the stump, and they were going to make a rule about it. All right, you're up, all right, let's go bigger picture. Let's stuck Cowboys. I actually am feeling patriotic about the Cowboys. I'm just glad. To me, they're the America's team for a reason. They're
just the biggest, dumbest, funnest team. I'm glad they exist. I'm not a Cowboys fan. There was that great book, Billy Lynn's Halftime Walk, which I really recommend. You're looking something to Read is kind of a football book, kind of not. It's sort of critical of what a team like the Cowboys mean to America and everything like that. And so Cowboys are America. They're everything bad, they're everything good.
But like, damn it if Jerry Jones hasn't like accomplished what he wanted, which is they are the biggest show in town. They are bigger and dumber. They are the show. They are the team that everyone wants to watch like they are America and Bomani. Jones says it a lot when he goes to a Cowboys game. He says, you want to see America, go to the Cowboys parking lot. That is true diversity. There is everything in a Cowboys
There's Hispanic, black, white, everything. There's high income, there's low income, like there is every different types of fan. Everyone's a Cowboys fan. That's in Texas and really all around the country. And uh, there's a lot that's wrong with them, but I'm I'm glad they're there. They are American to me. That's the feeling patriotic about the Cowboys.
Great one. And you know, Jerry Jones doesn't have a spotless, you know record when it comes to you know, things that he's done in his past. But I have to say Jerah, as an owner and as the guy that that really stokes the fire of that organization, I appreciate him as he enters his uh he's in his early eighties now, and he will be his presence will be missed when he's gone. And I think about the Cowboys and as a Yankees fan, like people hate the Yankees
just like they hate the Cowboys, and that's good. It's good to have that team that that is very popular, that has a lot of success in their past, but then when they lose, you get this huge You have the you know, this segment of diehards that support that team, but then everyone else can celebrate that team failing. And the Yankees are that in baseball and the Cowboys are
that in football. And I thought it was actually kind of interesting when I was doing Superstar Club, when I'm kind of stuck on a player, every year, I'll send out a tweet like is this guy a Superstar? And one of them I did was for Ceed Lamb, who I think got it.
I mean, you wouldn't know it was. It was all anonymous, but I did fill out that one I said, oh, what did you say for the record, I said, yes, yeah.
So Ceedee Lamb I and I put him in. But when ten thousand people responded, eighty percent said no. And it's not because they were like judging Ceedee Lamb is not a true superstar. It's because they hate the Cowboys and they don't want to They don't want Ceedee Lamb to be successful because Cede Lamb having great success means the Cowboys are back on top. And I think it's
just fun to have that team that everyone hates. It's so important and the Cowboys are that and I hope it is that way after Jerry's gone, because after George Steinberner left the Yankees when he passed away, the Yankees don't have that same kind of excitement around them in terms of how they're run and just the juice around them. And Jerah, for the lack of Super Bowl rings in the last quarter century, they've remained relevant and exciting and
a team worth talking about. And he has a lot to do with that.
So I mean, he's got to be apparently the subject of a ten bart Netflix series. They've paid fifty million dollars too. I'm feeling patriotic for NFL Films too, still getting it done. NFL Films has made this or in the middle of this documentary. It's apparently mostly about the nineties Cowboys, not so much about Jerry, But maybe it's kind of focused on Jerry and about the nineties Cowboys
and everything that went on. It sounds pretty fascinating. But I think they'll be able to keep it going because even though Jerry's gone, it'll be in his family, I assume in Stephen Jones will be running. There's no greater proof that they're going to stay around forever than if you live through the Quincy Carter era when they didn't have quarterbacks, because they were still a big deal. Then if you remember that they still felt like big games.
I mean, it was annoying that they were always on and stuff, but they were still kind of a big deal even with Chad Hutchinson and Quincy Carter.
Yeah, but I can tell you Stephen Jones is not gonna generate headlines like Jara did, just like House LiLine, Runner doesn't do it the way George did. He is in a class of his own in that sense. It would help if they could, like, you know, get another ring though, it's you kind of have to have that success too to stay in that in that realm. And it's been a while now, so maybe this will be the year for the Cowboys. You also have the The
Quarterback series on Netflix that's gone out soon. I can't wait for that.
Yeah, I saw that text of years. You said it looked you thought it looked great. I'm gonna be I'm gonna wait and see. We'll see how this thingks.
Oh, you're gonna you're gonna gobble it.
Up, Grant, I'll watch it right away. It's just like I want want to snort it. I watched this at Netflix, you know, tennis series Breakpoint too, and like you would think that would be catnep for me, but it was kind of disappointing.
And then and now that you got my mind thinking about Jerry Jones documentary, let's let let's let HBO handle that it's doing about ten years or so and get it right. Let's make it a two parter and just.
Yeah, the fact that it's NFL Films is it'll be great. But it'll be a different documentary than.
If it was by a different you know, right, Robert Kraft.
It'll be really great, but it'll be it'll be different.
The Robert Kraft probably has a say in this conversation, but Jones is probably the most powerful figure in the NFL, right at least amongst the ownership, and maybe even including Goodell and the owners, right, I mean, and the rest of the front office. So he's gonna have his fingertips on anything that comes out safe to say, you know what I'm patriotic about. Holy God, Year four Justin Jefferson.
Holy God built up the old Pro Football Reference. Here is the production for Justin Jefferson, who, by the way, I don't know if you're aware of, Greg, but football is an incredibly punishing, physical game.
I've heard that, I've seen it.
Justin Jefferson has never missed a game in three years. Fifty games. Catches by a year eighty eight one o eight one twenty eight yards fourteen hundred sixteen sixteen eighteen oh nine yards per game, eighty seven and a half ninety five one oh six point four Rookie of the Year, second place, second Team All proh second Team All Pro, First Team, All Pro Offensive Player of the Year. Then I looked at Randy Moss, who, in my lifetime is
the greatest receiver that I ever saw in terms of dominance. Okay, and yes, sure enough in a very different world. In the NFL ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand, he immediately just blew the doors off the league. Finished in the top three in MVP, Offensive Player of the Year, Top five twice Rookie of the Year. Of course, what made Moss different is his ability to find the end zone as well, because he was just unbelievable on deep balls.
He had seventeen, eleven and fifteen touchdowns his first three years. So while the rest of his numbers aren't quite at the heights of Jefferson, you have to keep in mind the air he played in and then look at the finding the end zone the way it Moss did. So I think Moss kind of changed the league fundam mentally, or kind of stood out a little bit more than
Jefferson Rice. I wasn't there for his first peak, nor were you, Greg in the mid to late eighties, but he had a second peak in the mid nineties where he was just unstoppable. But he was, you know, gifted in so many ways, and once he learned the game, when he lost speed, he made up for in other ways, but I didn't. The way I look at Jefferson is different, and also just because he's just the way he explodes off the screen when you watch him. So as he
enters now his age twenty four season. I know a lot of people are down on the vikings this year. I understand it, and they went thirteen and four, but they weren't a truth thirteen and four. We all know that. I think they're still going to score points, and I think Jefferson has a chance to almost impossibly get better in year four because he's done that every year of his career so far.
That's a fun one. I I picked up a fantasy sports magazine on the way here for Walker at the airport. That's That's one thing. It is on the my long list of things I'm feeling patriotic for. I love those those early fantasy.
Magazines are just they're still pumping them out.
Still pumping them out at the especially the early ones that come out. You're you just you want to see some rankings, you want to do. You start making your list. Walker wants to do that, and we were talking about who to take with number one. There's McCaffrey and blah. But I was like, I don't know, man, Justin Jefferson, if you're in that top top area there, I'm just gonna feel good. You just know it's gonna work. In a PPR league, you know it's gonna work. You know
that's not going down. And I think even in a real football setting, I think i'd take him over to everyone as good as the top of the top receivers are right now, I think I think you're right to feel patriotic. I think he's You're good to take him over everyone, And I think he's got the right He doesn't have the right quarterback, not that Cousin's a bad quarterback for him to be, he could have a better one.
But I do think he's in the right offense and the right coach that's gonna keep just feeding him and finding ways to.
Get him the ball. Yes, Kevin O'Connell will know what he needs to do. And it might be the last year of Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson, but whoever they bring in next is just gonna have such a huge advantage. As long as you keep Jefferson happy and get him under a long term deal, he's gonna make quarterbacks better for his entire career.
You're up, Greg, I mean, but yeah, those you know, fantasy bags. It's just like you're at the point of the offseason where it's like, I'm ready to start turning the page. I've had enough of this summer. Let's start. Let's start making some rankings. Love those so many big picture ones I'm going to go with just like running quarterbacks right now, I'm just feeling patriotic about running quarterbacks. These are some of the greatest athletes of the world.
I could combine this and just say I'm feeling patriotic about NFL athletes. Show me a freaking Miles Garrett in another sport, by the way, or a DeMarcus Lawrence, or like a DeForest Buckner. I would argue that, like the best NFL athletes are just the best athletes, the most impressive athletes, and they don't really exist.
Greg I wrote about eight Lebron James playing tight end for the Cowboys stories on NFL dot Com in the mid two thousands.
NBA's close, but they're not like two hundred and seventy five or two hundred and ninety pounds moving that fast and that big. Maybe A couple of them are, but not many. A Yiannis type is. But to drill down beyond, just like specimen and athleticism, I'm patriotic about running quarterbacks. This is this is the league I wanted to see for so long. It really has changed. I think we
almost take it for granted because it happens slowly. But right now we got Lamar, we got Josh Allen, we got Jalen Hurts, we got Justin Fields, we got Anthony Richardson coming in. We got Daniel Jones lighting it up, Patrick Mahomes and Kyler and Herbert. You almost don't even think as a running quarterback and Burrow, but they have a ton of rushing value. They really don't make pocket
quarterbacks anymore. I went back dan and looked at the QBR rankings because they have a rushing value list back about fifteen years ago, one year two thousand and seven, there was one quarterback who was above a ten in rushing QBR that year, and it was Aaron Rodgers. Right now we have eleven of those quarterbacks, eleven versus one. One year, David Garrard led the league. David Garrard and a number around that. Gino Smith had in rushing value. Literally there was a year like not that long ago
where no quarterbacks had rushing value. And then you even look at the top shelf guys like Vic and Cam Newton who were always exciting, but they were outliers even compared to those guys the very top of the top, which is basically Alan Hurts Fields in terms of his running and Lamar you know when he's healthy, like those guys are even at another level just in terms of the volume, even compared to Cam and Vick. So the
league changed. They don't really have pocket quarterbacks anywhere. They have some Kirk Cousins types, but they're not coming into the league. So I'm feeling patriotic like that the league. We wanted to see where the league kind of met the best athletes where they were is happening.
It's happened. Yeah, And you could do an entire, you know, sociology class course about the evolution of the running quarterback and what took so long?
And and.
You look at Randall Cunningham as an example, at least in our lifetimes, he was the first example of the guy that could do that, and every he blew everybody's mind, and he was a huge star, even if it didn't last too long. Then he reserviced with the Vikings kind of forget about that years later, not as a that known as that super athlete and then tore the league apart as a.
Mostly pocket pass should have.
Yeah, one of the great teams that never won the Super Bowl, those ninety eight Vikings with Randy Moss as a rookie tinner all together. But and then you had him looking at it, and Steve McNair came along, and Aaron McNair. He moved the ball with his legs. He won an MVP with Peyton Manning two thousand and three. But you know, then it's kind of quiet. Then Vic shows up and Vic kind of lights the league on fire. But we still haven't had a true revolution. Yeah, maybe it was just.
Like one out of time. It was like one out of time though, that's what.
I mean, Like you would think it's not like there wasn't these flashpoint moments where it would have happened. And I think that also you can look at it. What I mean, there's so many layers to it, including how college was developing these guys and letting athletes play quarterback and play like athletes, not just passers. That it wasn't really I feel like until around Cam who was first overall in twenty eleven, where you finally got like a steady trickle, And now I feel like the faucet has
just turned on. And most of these guys are coming out of the league with this dual threat capability, and it's just like it makes sense. It makes it makes a team so much harder to defend when you have that quarterback can do it all and he'll be justin Fields is like that before he got hurt at the end of last season. May me a more exciting player to watch in the league than Fields in November last year.
Right, And even the guys like I was surprised when I looked at the QBR rushing value, guys like Mahomes and Burrough who you don't think of as runners, are still running so much more. The russ RG three luckier actually, you know, had a chance to really inject a lot of athleticism, and they ranked pretty high, especially early in
this greup. People forget Russell Wilson had a couple of really good rushing years, but they didn't build offenses around those guys as rushing they were just efficient running when they needed to other than RG three, and now now it's just a huge part of these offenses and it make it makes a lot more fun to watch. That's why I'm feeling patiotic.
And RG three is twenty ten right before Cam, so maybe RG three is another way to look at it. When the oh no, he's twenty twelve.
Yeah, with Wilson, with Tannahill, that's right, that's how that's how old Tannahill is is that Like, I guess it's luck in RG three retiring so early makes him feel older, but he was in that class.
I will never forget being in the newsroom on opening day twenty twelve against the Saints when RG three scrambled out, turned the corner and then just went down the sideline I think untouched for like seventy yards or something. It was insane and it was like, holy god, that guy, Yeah, it was a forty thirty two went over the Saints. It was a huge upset, and you know it was just like this guy has speed, like it's hard to believe. Interesting,
good one, Greg. I wish RG three stayed healthy. That would have been it was an interesting one of the great what ifs in this particular conversation of these quarterbacks is what if RG three stayed healthy? I mean, his season is twenty twelve rookie season was pretty badass all the way around. Remember he looked to me boys on Thanksgiving.
I did a weekly column QB Index, where the whole point of the column was I just watched the coaches film of the rookies every game that year and rank them based on the week and then based on the season. And as good as Andrew Luck was that year, and Russell Wilson for that matter, RG three was the guy I put at the top at the end of the season. He had the best season of those three.
All right, let's see what do I want to talk about now?
You can go quick.
I know, yeah, I got a couple of things to get I'm patriotic about. Like I said, this is the one time of year the NFL hasn't cracked yet, so I just want to shout out. I got a lot of pride in patriotism about the late June early July news cycle. Superstar clubs all over NFL websites across the world right now. But I want to put my focus on Chris Jones chief star who woke up, picked up his phone and just typed four words in an acronym.
I'll win dpo Y this year hits end and he was on every NFL and sports website in the world for that one tweet. And I just wanted to give a shout out for the power even though he who wrote it, Oh my god, it was so good. I think it was Rohato Pat. Yeah, Rhoda Pat's the best. You know, he got Elon Musk what he's doing with Twitter now, with the limits and everything road Pats tweet
and then Comma for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Comma, he imperiled his industrial empire while crashing the great communications platform of the twenty first century. That's a good job about you, Patrick Darty.
But anyway, Jone's keeping it alive. Though.
Joe just like throws out a tweet and it blows up and he could win defens Player of the Year. He wants some money too, you like, get paid for it. Maybe that will get him a new contract if he wants DPOY. But a shout out for being able to just write four words in an acronym and be the biggest NFL story for twenty four hours.
Yeah, this is the time to do it if you want attention, Like this would be my strategy as a social media coordinator or like a publicist like go big. Doing something at this time of year positive. Unfortunately, at this time of year, it's always often negative stories. But this Chris Jones calling a shot is a positive story. I do worry a little bit. He's coming off a career year. I would say, I mean, he's had a
great career. He actually is going to get some Hall of Fame consideration if he keeps this up at this pace, the way he's been going. But I would say last year was the best year of his career. So Kenny top that.
One last addendum to this. In his replies, someone wrote you might need damn near twenty of them thang referring
to I believe Sacks. And then Chris Jones once again, you know, very spartan in his choice in his wording, because you know, again you don't need to write a lot here, just enough his response Okay, I mean it could have been because I don't know how he said it, like if there was an inflection, it could have been like okay, or it could have been like okay, like being a jerk about it, or Okay, he's gonna I.
Think I think that's an okay, I'm gonna do it. I think it's okay. Yeah, that's what's.
All right. I got one more, Greg, so I know you probably have four hundred more.
No, I got too many. I could go fast, but I got two. I like left, but I'll do that. I'll do a speed around here. Number one. Shout out to the Zone out here in Japan. Game passes just on the zone, the zones showing up live games all over the world. I didn't know about that, you know de Zone at home da z n oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that.
I mean we got to hear you can watch the Tokyo Swallows.
MMA.
But here you can watch you know, are the local baseball team. But Walker noticed, like we got NFL network over here on de zone and we got game pass and that I googled it. It's it's all over the world on de Zone. You can you can have a game. I'm just saying that was like a nice job by Dezone. You can watch some live football over here in Japan. That's good.
That's a good job by you.
The Bucks Cannons. I like the cannons that they fire off. That's good. Uh. I like that Madden is still going so strong. Walker getting a lot of airtime today, but he's addicted to the video game Madden. Now, it's like it's still going strong. Shout out to the Bosa brothers. Famously bad in interviews. Not a fan of their politics. Like there's few people in the NFL I'd want to hang out with less than the Bosa brothers, But we
never talk about them. How about delivering? Just watching them, Like Kyle Shannan says, Nick Bosa is maybe one of the smartest players he's ever come across. These are top five picks. Cute, he was serious, but in terms of like their hand usage and power and like if you're into that, like they deliver. They were top five picks who are absolutely studs from the minute they enter the league. Joey's got to stay healthy, but like they look like they're going to go with a power move and they
swipe like they are technicians. So shout out to the Bosa but they just seem very American.
Where was Nick where they needed to stop twenty seven nothing though?
Or Joey should I mean, he's one that was nick one one player. But I mean Joey, by the way, is kind of a Sammy Watkins All Star right now. Drafted in twenty sixteen, He's only twenty seven years old as of this taping. Somehow, Joey Bosa is only twenty seven.
No, Joey's is only going to get to stop with the rest of his teammates twenty seven nothing.
Oh, you're right, Yeah, I'm an idiot. I thought you were talking about the NFC Championship game. Was it's to twenty seven?
Nothing?
I think Joey was hurt for that game. He missed most of the last season. You gotta stay healthy, Joey. But those are great football play If I'm gonna finish with a larger point, all right, football, the dichotomy of football, Dan, I'll try to make this quick.
Now, let's end with this one. I like this.
Go ahead, We're gonna end. It appeals to everyone because it's sort of the biggest, dumbest spectacle of a sport. We have a sport that like my mom can just kind of jump in once a week you don't have to know that much about or my eight year old son can jump in, and they like the hits, they like the action, they like the touchdowns, and it's their favorite sport. It's my mom's favorite sport, it's my son's favorite sport. But on another level, it's sort of the
hardest sport to understand. We cover this stuff every day for twenty years, and honestly, I will never totally understand it. I mean in terms of the way that every play and everything that you would need to know to understand what happens on every play, It's basically impossible. And even if you are coaching you do understand it on the
most granular level possible. Even for those guys, it is always changing, It is always evolving, It is always changing from one year to the next, so you have to stay totally on top of it or you get left behind it. And even those guys who do stay on top of it, they can't be watching every snap of the defensive tackle of every team, so it's sort of endless. That's why we love the Baldis of the world, because they're at least out there trying to see and know everything.
But even Baldy would admit, like he can't be watching everything. He doesn't know everything that's going on, So it works as this basic sport that appeals to everyone, but it also appeals to the connoisseur, the person that wants to dive in and be as smart about it as humanly possible. I think it's a sport for those types too, and you will never get to the bottom of it if you want to just study it as like an intellectual exercise. So it works on both fronts. And oh, by the way it rates.
It puts the meat in de seats and I mean both at the stadiums and on the couches. Yeah, that's so true. I loathe to even bring it up because it's my least favorite thing. You never played the game card that a pro athlete will play with the media, But it is honest. Football is one sport where you really these guys that come out of the league and then go into broadcasting, if they do it right, they
have such a huge advantage. I think that's part of what made Tony Romo so great when he first started, is because he knew the league. He was just in the league and he was just dissecting it because he had kind of mastered the sport from that side of things, and then he was bringing it to the audiences and like you if you love to try to like learn about the league in a different way, when you have somebody like the young Romo broadcaster throwing that stuff at you,
it's like catnip. But it's also you could tell and I don't want to bring up any names the guys that try to coast on that, and then they get further away from their playing career and they they telling themselves so quickly and they're almost betrayed by this thing, like, well, I played the game, so I don't need to do the work, like if you don't keep watching and trying
to learn where the league's going. Because how much is greg how much is football change since when we start doing the podcast to where it is now, That's what I mean. It's remarkable.
It's not that basketball doesn't change. It changes, but I think schematically in terms of coatball is completely different than basketball. It changes baseball, I mean, it doesn't change as much. Baseball doesn't change as much. And even to the point of those players who really do understand the x's and know is better. One thing I realized being young doing this is like, yeah, they might understand all that, but they don't know like the thirty two depth charts. They're
not really following along. If like this guy is having a great season, this guy isn't on a season scene base just because it's impossible to cover everything. That's why it to me, it's it's a great sport to cover because it's endless.
It is good one Gregy Again, it's fourth of July here in the United States, and everyone be careful.
We still went over an hour. We've managed to turn be honked for over now.
Everybody have a great time with their friends and family, and Greg, please get home safely with you your family and enjoy the rest of your trip. Will be away, like I said, until a week from Thursday. So this is the only time of the year where we're dark for this amount of time. And then we'll slowly start to ramp things up and we have a big year coming up with a lot of exciting things that have
been going on behind the scenes. Greg, how many meetings have we been in at the old mother Ship and phone calls and things that we usually try not to be involved with because we like to be a self sustaining organism. But we've been working hard as we look to figure out what is the next stage of around the NFL as we entered decade two and we're excited about what's coming up. We're not gonna share everything right now, but we're excited.
Yeah, we have been. We have planned more this offseason. Maybe that's a sign of our maturity I think about what's coming up, maybe not than any off season I can remember. And if you like around the NFL, I think it's safe to say the world be as much or more around the NFL content for you coming up this season as ever before.
If it's not, if it's not crap to us, it won't be crap to you. We're gonna put the work in and we're going to continue.
We are One day that could be an NFL slogan. You like doing that, you know, that could be your NFL slogan maybe if.
We we care and we are looking to keep this thing going in an exciting way. So thank you everybody for listening. Enjoy your time with your family. Mark Sessler, I hope you're good out there wherever you are, Buddy, I think he's back on a boat. He's on the sea again, which is fore boating.
Shock intern of development, Mark becoming a seaman.
But all right, everybody, Yes, Happy fourth of July. Until we meet again, you know what you gotta do. Heed the call,