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Thanksgiving Recap

Nov 29, 201938 min
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Dan Hanzus & Marc Sessler recap the Thanksgiving Day games, including the Bills big win over the Cowboys (4:25) and Jerry Jones’ postgame comments (10:55). The Heroes also break down the Lions loss to the Bears (14:55) and the Saints clinching the NFC South after their win over the Falcons (24:20).

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Be Around the NFL Podcast knows what a turkey? Holy. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas and I've joined in the garage that has just one hero, Mark Sessler. What's up boy? How you doing? Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. Yes, it is the Friday morning after Thanksgiving and we have gathered here in the rented garage, usually the spot of the throwback podcast that I do with my buddy bobcast

show and my bosom buddy. But once again on Thursday night games, we keep the tradition of doing it here in the garage. Little Chili. I got the space heater on. If you hear a minor hum in the background, that's because it it dipped into the thirties in l A last night and it feels good. Actually, I like that it was It reminded me being back in the Northeast. Were East coast guys, and uh it's I love anything

that veers toward autumnal winter seasons. And I know we don't have a lot to complain about with the weather here, but this was a chilly evening into morning. No quid pro quo, no global warming, um Okay, let's go down that red. Save it for the political podcast. All right, So yes, three games that Thanksgiving and what we're gonna do. It's essentially a UM. It's like a supersized mini pod. So we're just gonna talk about the three games, um

that we're played. UM. The first game went basically the way we expected, with little hiccups along the way for the winning team. The second game kind of rearranged some feelings about two different teams, and then the last game a little bit of a blur. I I wasn't drinking. I'd agree with you. I tied it on a little bit at the NFL media Wednesday night gathering. Right, you're in the Howard Hughes phase of your life now where we can't get you to go out anywhere anywhere, so

you missed it. But it was a nice gathering and I definitely hit the Tito's a little harder than I should have and that affected you not for the first two games the next day, but the but the final game. That's I mean, what I was saying was that it was a little, um, a little blurry the third game, not because of drinking on Thanksgiving, but because just eate too much food. It's it's also you know, it's it's a long it's a long day of football if you're

tracking those games. And I wouldn't say it. I'm in the Howard Hughes phase. Uh. Your fingernails right now, by the way, for the listeners are each seventeen inches long. I am. I'm not. I'm not going out as much as I used to, which I miss. What I'm really trying to do is get you just to feel my absence and and and and have that effect your your relationship with me. I don't know what I'm talking about. This, this is what you got to be careful with though,

in this new phase of your life. Yeah, that people get used to your absence and then you just drift away. Yep. Then I'm gone and you're just wandering the streets. I think what you need to do is make the surprise appearance, which I will do. I didn't know I had you gone to Cozy, I would have done what I normally do. It from the house is play. You can actually manipulate the Cozy jukebox from my house over an app and I believe once played It's Raining Men times in a row.

I could have pulled that. Would that have been your choice again had we been at the cozy? It's always the choice we did. Uh, there was a listener that spotted us. We had the whole gang there, Colleen Gonzo, Brassy in the house, Ricky Hollywood, Cynthia Freeland. I believe Cynthia Freeland. I guilted her into coming, Eddie Spaghetti and his wonderful girlfriend. Uh, the whole gang was there. Uh.

Who else was there? Thomas Warren, our buddy, Lakisha of course, and West and Lukisha did get her hamburger at Hanano's at the end of the night, as she will she deserves. So it was a great, a great gathering and then a lot of football and a lot of Thanksgiving. Ten people in the house. I fried a turkey, Uh in this garage. I believe you didn't. I don't. And I was concerned that I would be smelling um fried meat products,

and I don't. There's no trace of that. Yeah, we kept the garage door cracked open yesterday while that was going on. But there's also a little burn mark in my rug that will forever memorial analyize um yesterday's activities. But anyway, enough about that great holiday. But now we spin forward. The season doesn't begin until after Thanksgiving. So these games I guess in account. But let's get into

them anyway, and let's let's not go in order. Let's start with the game that most people are talking about. It is the middle game, uh in Big d The Buffalo Bills looking to make a statement, and I think

they did. Five wide empty at the Dallas fifteen four man fru shotgun staff, Alan lock left side, checks down, he rubs, sprints, pumps, fifteen ten five till the ends of nine, he's in touchdown Josh Allen his eighth rushing score of a year, and with three thirty seven ago in the third quarter, the Bills a domino twenty two to seven edge. I'm the Cowboys Josh Allen, Wow, buddy. Two touchdowns on Thanksgiving Day, including that rushing touchdown where he's just you know, that was a man as you

put it on Twitter. I believe Mark So he scores twice, doesn't throw an interception, plays clean football more than it can be said for the Dallas Cowboys, who lay an egg at home in a really important game for them. Final score, Bills get the win, and it's an important game for the Cowboys, and we're going to get to

the Cowboys. But I think it's almost it's it's unfair because even when the Bills have this quote unquote statement win that everyone's been saying, Oh, the Bills need to be the team that matters after the game, and today, I'm sure everyone's just talking about the meltdown of the Cowboys anyway. So let's start with the Bills and give them the respect they deserve. Because Mark, they fall behind seven nothing in this game. Dallas makes it look easy, and you know it was playing right into you and

I's locked selection. In fact, if I could pull up the tweet that you sent me, Mark, because we locked up the Cowboys woolishly, um going into this game. Your tweet after the first score was our lock is gonna fly today, and I replied, when Jason witnessed scoring, it's looking good. Wow, little Poppus asses Uh. And then what happens The Bills score what unanswered points? Uh? And they just cruise. So what was your thought, Mark, watching this game unfold and seeing its spin away and the Bills

pull away, which nobody predicted. I thought that the defense for Buffalo made a big difference they forced a couple turnovers in Dallas Turner in Dallas territory of dak Prescott and that you know, they the Bills have had a tough time I thought all year closing drives with touchdowns,

and they got it done this time. And they just simply seemed too And we talked about it, josh Alan operating as a total raging man, that that that's how it was in this game that he used his brute power on the ground uh ten rushes for forty three yards and in an awesome touchdown run too, and they

just kind of squeezed the life out of Dallas. And you know, and I understand that the Cowboys are a talent team both on offense and defense where you want to look at these metrics, uh, they kind of rise up to the top of the crop in both categories. But by the end of the game, it was West texting us saying, you know what, I'm kind of done with the Cowboys because they they don't close games. And

that's why we're talking about them afterwards. Because of the way that Joe's Jason Garrett and we talked about this on our preview pod. I thought was totally out coached by Sean McDermott and the Bills. This is a signature win in their nine and three and I feel like they are hidden away, couched away in Western New York and no one talks about them. They played every single game in a row at ten am Western West Coast time, over and over. You don't see them on Prime time.

This was the kind of win where suddenly they are on the radar because they dropped a massive death bomb on the Cowboys. It was it's closed to a death bond for Dallas. But somehow they're still in first place at six and six and the NFC East. Yeah, if you this was the story around the Bills that they had. Um they had all these wins against teams that weren't any good and uh, seven of their eight wins entering Thursday were against teams with losing records. But we talked

about it on Thursday. The this was it. This was the stage for the Bills after years and years of one pm games that no one was paying attention to. Everyone was gonna be watching this game and now they're nine in three and not only are they now a near lock for the postseason barring a complete clar lock Um. You also don't forget about the AFC East because they keep winning and they keep the pressure on the Pats who have a lot of issues. And this is a

big thing to watch. I don't think anybody really is. But they have the Texans this week New England. Uh, they look like a team with their issues on offense that would potentially go into a slump. And then that leaves the door wide open. Uh for the Bills. Do they have They play each other, and they played each other in week sixteen, and after that Texans game for New England, New England has to play the Chiefs the week after. Now then you get the Bengals and the

Dolphins in there. So it's a tall order to suggest that the Bills could win the division. But it's not absurd. It's not absurd, it's it's it's the fact that it's possible. Here in December, is in early December. Is is fantastic. And the Bills are one of the least reported on teams in the NFL. And this has to be the feel good operation in the entire league right now. And they now get basically a half by ten days off

and they have the Ravens in Week fourteen. So I I imagine there are people that will be out there and be like, well, yes, they did win and this was a nice win, but the Cowboys, it turns out, aren't very good. Well that no one will be questioning anything about the Bills if they go and play the Ravens and somehow win that game. But we'll we'll get

to that down the road. As far as far as the Cowboys go, the reason I locked them up, and the reason I'm sure you did too, is just this felt like the game where because they are or this is I'm going through my mind entering Thursday. They are a good team. Maybe they're not a great team, but

they're a good team. And at home, after the owner sounds off and kind of puts everybody on blast with the talent that they have on offense, uh that they would find a way to get this a win that they needed and move forward and move past, because that's kind of been a part of the story of the Jason Garrett era, that just when it feels like the walls are falling in, they get that big win to get back on their feet, and in this case, they did not, and after the game it's telling so you.

Of course, one of the best parts of Cowboys games is the jerebox UH sweet shots. And it was getting darker and darker and darker. And then by the end of the game, when reporters catch up with him outside the Cowboys locker room, he has tears in his eyes talking about what's going on with the Cowboys. Let's listen

to that. This is not the time for me. I'm looking ahead at another ball game, and I'm looking ahead it went in full or five straight, five straight and helping write a story that they'll talk about that looks like you were down and at and got it that I made that. I mean that that's the way that I'm operating every decision that I make over the next month, well being with an and man to get us in the Simple Bowl. Now, well, I think it's very clear

that the coaching change is coming. And you predicted that as one of your post Thanksgiving Now that the league now that the season matters um predictions, and and and I suggested even after that that I thought it could happen before week seventeen because of the way this team UH operates and the fact that you're going to get comments from Jerry Jones after every single game and in all week long, and I honestly kind of felt for for for Jason Garrett watching him on the sideline and

just the you know, he's one of these guys where you can you can kind of read what's happening inside on his face and I just seemed to be like a man in pain. And they are lucky Dallas in you know, I'm tweeted this out that the NFC East is doubling right now, is like a youth hostel for small clowns, and it's it's a mess. So you could still win that division. You want have about the Bills winning the East In the a f C, the Cowboys could still win that division because the Eagles are punchless

and have their own issues too. But the overall direction and the inability to play up to the roster's talent is ominous. And I think we're looking at the final few games of Jason Garrett, who's been there for so long.

And the problem is the b line with Jason Garrett, the in game coaching decisions, uh, the late game crumblings that's been consistent with him throughout, and there was you know, they were they were I think what they were trying to do, if you're Jason Gerett, was be more aggressive and show I'm not going to be this hyper conservative coach. They went forward on fourth down inside the ten yard line against Buffalo and it was an incomplete passed by

Deak Prescott. Was a killer play for them, and they you know, they tried to do certain things that you would expect, maybe like a John Harbor of John Harbor, and it didn't work out because and that's on the players, that's not all on Jason Garrett. But the Cowboys to me are a one and done if they get into the playoffs, they're just they're not They're not living up to their talent. And I thought they did a better

job of that last year than this year. Yeah, that it won't be good enough just to make the playoffs and go one and done it. And now that we're getting down to the nitty gritty as it were, Um, I don't know what that means really, but I use the expression. I think that's from a time when men were doing a little bit more man work than we do work, you mean podcasting and a girl. I don't think that nitty gritty is something that we deal with on a day to day basis. Yes, now that we

have it's a smaller picture. We're not above the tree tops anymore. To use some corporo jargon, they need to essentially their six and six. They gotta go three and one down the stretch. They gotta win the division and then I think for Jason gard to keep his job, they have to then win a wild card game. And all of that. By the way, all that still feels plausible because this team, when it's in its top gear,

can hang with a lot of teams. But also just maybe it's just not gonna happen with this team and maybe with this coach, and it's just time. We'll see. They get the Bears, who are now six and six at Soldier Field. Uh. I think it's a Sunday night game that could go either way too, And I mean, I'm with you. I just also, you win, so you win a wild card game and get waxed in the next playoff operation. Is that really a pro Jason Garrett moment. I just I think it's just more of the same.

It's a Thursday night game. Actually, I should clarify that, so that's say we'll be covering that game next week and maybe that will game when we'll be tolling the funeral bells for the Jason Garrett Art because they lose that game, well, they'll still probably win the division. I don't trust the Eagles to do anything. The Redskins and Giants are already dead and buried. It's a messy division. Um all right, let us now move to the first

game we watched. Uh so take it away, fourth down play while surveys the defense play clock running down to seven Now would Fox Law gets the snap, he's back to throw. Blow is looking. Heats it up off his back foot down the west side for Godaday, intercepted by Eddie Jackson, will go down at the fourteen yard load and Matt should ceiling. Eddie Jackson, who had to pick six off Thanksgiving a year ago, pick that one off. It should end the game. Bears will take over with

twenty nine seconds left on top by four. Eddie Jackson seals the deal with an interception of David Blow. Did we get it's Blow? David Blow? Not only do I know his last name at this point, I would say that I'm one of the biggest David Blow fans out there. After whatever, I'm Actually there is a Kendall Freer from a Yahoo our friend who used to work at the NFL.

She and I have anointed ourselves as co presidents of the Blowhards, a fan club that will be releasing newsletters monthly until no matter what happens to David Blouse's career. Would this be happening if you didn't still have a gardener Minshew root? Well, she was. She was a huge Minshoovian and as as was I. And with him out of the picture, we've quickly moved on to David Black. Gotta wonder what the mins Humaniacs think about all this.

I think they would there's a similar energy with David blow I would have loved had he, you know, sealed the deal versus throwing that interception. All right, so Mark has another subpart quarterback to pump up and we have a bear win over the Lions. Um for all the blow Hards out there, a very nice job. The first pass in the NFL is a seventy five yard touchdown. Uh, he got them. He had another throw scoring pass, so he he played a really nice game all things considered.

He is a third string quarterback, though, and that started to show as the game progressed and the Lions a team that just has never found a found a way to win this this year. Oh, I guess you could. You weren't saying that when they were three one in one or whatever. But it's just been kind of a nightmare since they've lost eight of nine. And we'll see what that means from Matt Patricia. Uh, Mitch Trobinsky was the better quarterback on Thursday at Ford Field. He had

his best game of the season. In fact, this was the type of game, although imperfect, that the Bears kind of thought they would get on a semi regular basis. He threw for over three yards, He threw a top, he threw three touchdowns. UM. He made some mistakes UM an interception. He also had that puzzling third down scramble at the end of the first half where he veered left instead of going to for the first down. But maybe his hip and his shoulder and all those injuries

playing into effect. I don't think we should be judging the toughness of any man running towards two seventy five linebackers trying to end his life. UM. But anyway, nice job by Travisky. Really in general, I'll say this for Travisky, and I think maybe the toothpaste is out of the uh the old tube. Mark. You know I've been using

that one late. I just like it that work. I don't know if the Bears can talk themselves into Trabinsky after this year, but he is doing himself a favor regardless with by trending upward in the last few weeks, and maybe he could end in December hot as well, because twenty nine thirty eight three thirty eight almost nine yards and ten three touchdowns. The Lions are a bad, bad defense and a quarterback, and even an average quarterback should be able to have his way. So this is

progress and the Bears. I'll have to check out where we're at with the playoff picture, and I'll do that when I throw it to you, Mark. But there's six and six and at least they If you're a bearrass fan, you're not gonna go into December with a dream. Well, you mentioned they played the Cowboys and they also have the Packers, Chiefs, and Vikings. So the road is, the road is rough, The road is I hope you enjoyed. Yeah,

I mean it's just like that. That's that's The thing for me is the overall arc of some of these teams. It's nice when you get this win on the big stage and everyone sees it. And Robinsky, you know, I tweeted out like mid third quarter that Mitchell Robinsky is a thing of the past, and I was proven wrong yesterday. Now I don't know what that means overall, because getting choked up because he thought he had Strabisky dead and buried, and now he's talking about and playing a good game.

He he, he showed up a lot of yesterday, and there was there were moments where I thought Matt Nigi looked very steamed at Mitchell Robinsky at the end of the first half, and that that was a talking point in the broadcast to this is a team with the highest percentage of three and ounce in the NFL, and they've looked that way. But you got a big game from Anthony Miller at wide receiver Allen Robinson. They haven't really had their wide receiver show up consistently week after week.

That has a lot to do with the guy throwing the passes. But they took care of Detroit, who tested them more than you would want. And and if if I'm a Bears fan like I, I don't necessarily know if this changes, uh the environment and what I think about Mitchell Robinsky. Do you really go into next do you want confirm it? Do you want to be confirmed that this is your guy? And you go into next season with the same problems? Is he growing? Is he changing? It was a nice game against what has been a

pretty bad defense. He also had a terrible interception. Darius Slay picked him off on a what I thought was one of the one just a typical Mitchell Robinsky turnover type scenario. Yeah, it wasn't a perfect game, but it was progress. Yeah, that that's kind of what I'm getting at.

I wonder if there's if Trabinsky, no matter what happens, if the Bears decide they have to bring somebody in at the very east, at the very least, you imagine they'll look to upgrade over at Chase Daniel because one of the big mistakes of this Bear season has been they put themselves in a position where if Trabinsky didn't work out, Chase Daniel is never really an option because Chase Daniel is a sub standard backup quarterback with limited upside, if any upside at all. So they kind of had

no choice but to ride with Trabinsky. Um but yeah, so, I mean Traubinsky is gonna be the main storyline. You give credit to the Bears defense for the first three yard passing game all year, and that that's an outlier. Like these quarterbacks are throwing yards, you know, in mediocre games, and so I like, you're just not getting I just don't. I don't really care sometimes about like you need the game game to game production, and he's not. He's not

reliably doing that for the Bears. And that's a nice performance yesterday, But come on, let's look at the overall body of work. It's very concerning for a number two overall pick. I would be stunned if he's there starting quarterback. Couldn't you see maybe could you see Cam Newton in a Bears uniform? I I just can And I feel like he'd fit that team. I just someone that comes in and gives them is a veteran that can give you a little bit of a different operation than remember

the Carnival atmosphere about finding a kicker. Imagine what it's gonna be like with the Bears and Ryan Pace and Matt Naggie finding a quarterback that's gonna be a major storyline. Well, and I think because Ryan Pace picked Mitch Robinsky and probably wants to see this to the very bitter end, like you may not get a different quarterback, and he's under a contract, he's under that rookie contract, and his

trade value probably isn't high. Maybe maybe he's a guy that gets floated and trade talks and and you can get a mid to late round pick. I don't know, We'll see what happens with the future of him. But the Bears defense, which has shown signs of life the last two weeks. They not that they were ever bad this season, but they needed to be dominant like they were at their best last year to help float this bad offense. And they haven't been up to the task.

But they held the lines to just two field goals in the last three quarters of this game. I did have to ask you about what happened at halftime of this game because that early Detroit Chicago or Detroit matchups in general and Thanksgiving give you that halftime performance that gets floated out. There is a big deal with typically UH performers that you've never heard of or you're not you wouldn't uh, you know, go out of your way

to watch. This was the Brothers Osborne. I felt for them because, yeah, I'm not sure exactly what happened, but there was like an electricity uh shortage or a blackout right before they started to play. And the brothers Osborne, one of them a typical lead singer looking guy, the

other a bearded fellow who plays guitar and sings. Also yeah that I mean like they were stuck on stage and the cameras did not veer away from them, They just stuck on them and they had to stand there and like deal with this a minute plus of energy shortage. And this the fake crowd that they put out around the bands when they do these things, started just taking They're real people, but they're very much a fake credit.

It's a very fake orchestrated crowd. But just the the awkwardness level of that was I want to initially enjoyable and then to me, Damna Jing. Yeah, the power outage at halftime. I put that in terms of NFL Lord just a bit of a bit ahead of Super I just thought in terms of yes, in terms of the reach, how people will remember it, um, how it will just stick in people's minds. Is like one of those unforgettable

NFL moments. The Brothers Osborne power outage at the two Detroit Lions three eight and one versus Chicago Barys six and sixty. I'll never forget it. They battled through, and I'll give them that they because they did perform the song. Eventually. Where was the power outage during the nickelback performance of That's when we needed less electricity? All right? Anything else

on this game? No I I I come out of here just very excited about the whole concept of David Blow and I hope that he gets more starts than Matthew Stafford. Look out. Uh. And I did mention the Bears defense Roquan Smith, he was the absolute star. Fifteen tackles, ten solo, two sacks, two tackles for lost, two QB hits. Oh my goodness, that's one of the best defensive games. Uh. We'll see the season all right. Finally, UH, Thursday night

Football Thanksgiving Night. Uh in Atlanta, Pree receivers left one of the right, Brian dropped Saints bring it five, pressure and down goes Matt Ryan. The ninth second the game for New Orleans and on a way for them to clench this victory. Cameron Jordan gets yet another his fourth of the game, his eight five of his career, and the Saints are thirty eight seconds away from it winning the NFC South Well, he's working against the rookie Cantall Gary and it's a hand swipe. He knocks the hands away,

but Gary has no shot. Cam Jordan gets on his edge and Matt Ryan is a sitting duck in the pocket. Either have either have any time to find anyone down the field. And the offensive line of the Falcons another tough week. Cameron Jordan's have a day. The Pro Bowl defensive end finished with four sacks one if I believe nine in the game for the New Orleans Saints, who had some issues with special teams down the stretch, they're not recover an outside gig. My goodness, someone's gonna get fired.

But because of that incredible pass rush or that horrible Atlanta offensive line or both, the Saints do hold on eighteen the final score and with the win. And this is one of those things that a benchmark you with any team would set when you could clinch it a vision on Thanksgiving, you are doing a nice job. And

that's what the Saints did there. The NFC the South champions at ten and two in Atlanta, playing without Julio Jones who has a bum shoulder, who knows they might shut him down, go to a j green route at this point, Uh, they're three and nine. Mark, there's a nice moment. Uh, nice night for your boy Taysom Hill as well. Two touchdowns and you know that lock I had where I said he'd get to seven is very

much in play. I believe it's five and uh it's he Absolutely there's a shot because I think we're seeing that Sean Payton loves his versatility and he also had a blocked punt. I mean, this guy kind of does it all. He's sort of a Bill bella check in dream like someone. Alright, you'll see what you're doing here, Taysom Hill. That's America is gonna fall for you when you when you want to, you know, drop a big

sandwich proposition on someone. You do it on a handsome guy like Taysom Hill, who's a bit of a wild card, does it all. Very nice performance by him. Do you know there's also a fan group. I'm surprised because your your wager that that you wouldn't already be there, but I founded it with a handful of other women in the New Orleans. Okay, on Taysom Hill, I like that. I like that. I like last night what I tweeted out was tasty Hill, because that's how I feel about

this player. At this point, you're tweeting a lot last night. Well, it's like, you know, like there's no I had no no family families up there. So I'm home and like I'm watching three straight games. Finger nails are extremely long. My only way to communicate with humanity is filled with a yellow liquid that's not game. You know, I'm really wishing I I popped into that dot that Wednesday night get together because this narrative is unfavorable for me. Should

have done it. But you were tweeting a lot and Tasty Hills yet another gem from the Sessler account, tasty Hill because he does it all and this I thought the game kind of just sort of played. You said it was a bit formless. I think you mentioned or well, no, at the top of the show you mentioned that there wasn't a lot to take out of it. I just was like in a in a haze by the end

of a long holiday by. It was the perfect late game because you know, outside of the Greg Rosenthal Um Falcons fetish group, like there's just it kind of played the script, I thought, the way that you'd expect in The Saints are very much alive still for not just a by but potentially the first overall seat in the NFC if a couple of things go wrong for the

forty nine. New Orleans is right there. Can I just say this though, I and I like the Saints a lot, but I'm not like in love with how they're playing the last three or four weeks. Now. They they're a little bit, i don't know, a little messy, a little not as sharp as you'd like their winning. They obviously had that hiccup the last time they played the Falcons, uh,

and they've won every game since. But I'm not seeing a team when you look at a team like the Ravens or they're not doing that type of damage, And I guess it makes you think it plants the seed is of all right, Well, we got the San Francisco forty Niners next week. Let's see if they can hang in that game. I mean, I think the Saints can hang with anybody. Yeah, but I think they just need to be a lot sharper than they've been in recent weeks.

I think what I give them is and it kind of reminds me a little bit of the Patriots, who are not dominating people with blowouts and dropping forty burgers on people. Is They've got Sean Payton, who is a top two, top three coach in the league. And you know, quarter whether Drew Brees has been in the lineup or not, they've been in every game. But you're right, they're not. They don't strike you as some sort of ruffian absolute

juggernaut that's gonna just take out anyone they can. The Falcons hung around in this game, and the the onside kick stuff was bizarre. I mean, for the win, but he also he killed them with with miss p e t. I'm not in this era where they change the rules to make an onside kick impossible to recover, and I think was the first onside kick that got called back on penalty? Was that a bad call to the but he and credit to the rest of the Special Teams group.

I don't want of just highlight one guy, but who put it in the exact spot it was like a pinball wizard, like shooting it right in between, like the up back that's supposed to be the blocker, but putting in a place where it was before Alvin Kamara or that anybody else from the hands team could get to it. That's a real skill. I feel like that should earn you a roster spot for the rest of your life.

I I'm with you, and I am sad to feel that this game that was not as much on your radar as you would think because you had the glorious Mike Arrico announcing along with Tony Dungee and Rodney Harrison and Tariko One thing. I these there are these are these are These guys are not all created equal. I mean, Terrico is just a creative guy. Where the way he was describing some of that action late in the game

in general, what a pleasure. And it's I feel like we've been robbed to not have him in our life as a after week, there's a lot of We've talked about it off off Mike, a lot maybe on Mike, but there's definitely a Joe Montana Steve Young vibe with al Michael's in the Monte on a Roll and you have this guy Tariko, who's an absolute all pro, maybe even a Hall of Famer, waiting for his opportunity. And and he's he's twenty five years and he's twenty six,

he's twenty seven, he's twenty eight, he's twenty nine. When is he going to get his chance to get behind the mic or get on the field to extend that uh analogy. I believe that Tariko will be able to make his mark, But he's waiting for Alice's Hill. He's Taysom Hill, you know, right. Well that's and I'm on Taysom Hill Areas Hill, You're right? I I I think that maybe there's a little difference there. But you know,

nice game, uh for the Saints. And and I have to say on the falcon side, Matt Ryan shouldn't be playing if you can't protect him. That was an atrocity what was happening at the end of that game. Even as you're trying to get if you're in if you're in favor of the chaos theory, and you're just like, oh, this is gonna be crazy. Let them go down the field after these onside kicks and get the two like conversion. All of a sudden there in overtime and everybody's like

freaking out in the state silence. But it was never felt even in danger because they could not protect Ryan, who maybe held the ball a little longer than he should on some of those sacks too, So it's not all on the line, but they just had no chance that Cam Jordan was just running free. Uh it was a turnstile down the stretch. It was wild and that shy Tuttle interception was insane. I mean, Ryan, you know heat when you look at some of the mistakes, stiff

arm Matt Ryan protect this man. And it's a holiday. I mean we should be treating people better on a holiday. So h C J. Gardner Johnson had an interception as well. So sloppy game by the Falcons, and at three and nine, it's quite It's funny in the NFL when, like when the Dolphins won those two straight and we're showering them with praise and then they get killed twice that the Falcons are the same situation. Now that all that talk about dan Quinn's gonna get his job job saved, I

don't know. Three and nine, you just imagine that there's going to be a change there, and the Saints played without left tackle Toron Armstead, who's inactive suffered an ankle injury, so they're gonna need him back to be at full strength when these games matter the most. But just keep stacking wins. That's what the Sins are doing it maybe

they hit their stride. I think so. And like, you know again Jared Cook, who just looks like a like he's a tight end, but it's like a big bodied wide receiver that is fast and making plays week after week. That's a big deal to have suddenly back in Drew in the world of Drew Brees, a tight end that can make plays. Yes, And that was something we kind of expected to happen in August, and it wasn't happening. Uh. And Michael Thomas, good job, buddy. Held to six forty eight.

He still had a pace for the all time catch record, but now it's becoming possible he finishes just a tick below, which would be good for him. I mean, just in terms of the right thing to do right, there's things that are bigger than football, and so it is all right. And I have one other note unrelated to these three games. The Patriots released Nick Folk tough business in the kicker game. We're a kicker corner right now. He killed them last week.

I mean they want they got an append appendectomy and instead of just saying all right, get well buddy, maybe they're gonna bring him back. Who knows in that situation. I always wonder is there a team doctor housed inside of the New England complex that somehow had some sort of you know, formula to create an append appendectomy situation? Because that's that then you don't look like the bad guys when you release them. So do you know who they signed to replace? I believe it was a former

Brown's kicker. It is a gentleman who like him or hate him. The guy's a pro and he's finally back in the It's Kai. So now it's this is what you've been asking, you've been asking for. It's a little bit of sweet because I don't want any New England Patriots kicker to excel. So I'm kind of in an impossible situation here. Um, but I'm just happy that this era of Kai bawling is over and he deserved to

be back in the league. Yes, Nick Folk was like, you know, on a retirement cruise ship somewhere and they brought him out of two years of retirement. Kai should have been on this team already, so I wish him well again. I'm I'm definitely torn because I hate the Patriots. Puts you in a very strange place, no doubt, but I do want to see Kai do well. So you know,

it's just with the Patriots, it's never it's never simple. Well, it's you know, you have to ask about the Kai locker room dynamic there, because that's something that's sort of been tripped. You know, wherever he's gone, that's been an issue. So we'll find out in fairness the Kai that's actually not true. That's what I've been hearing. Had my reporting

years ago that Kai's Kai. Yeah, but we've never actually heard it reported in NFL circles that I mean, if you're reporting it to me, it is rock solid information. My report is like in life, Okay, Well, in a locker room maybe because he's a kicker, he keeps his head down and he's not quite Kai's Kai. If you

get what I'm saying. Well, I mean, thirty two teams have decided that not until you know, deep into the season, is he worth employing until now you know so well, maybe it all changes now four kickers for the Pats. All right, that's it for the Thanksgiving recap. We will be back as a foursome on Sunday night recapping the rest of the week thirteen games, So make sure you

return for that. And uh everyone uh. As we turned to the Christmas season and the holidays, uh hanka your Kwanza, there's anyone that any other category, I hit them all. Happy holidays. As we prepare for that, I'm gonna go get a Christmas tree. My in laws are here, so we're gonna make a whole. And in other words, there's no break, there's no rest for the weary, there's no rest. There's no rest. And I hope that it's a nice tree.

And how about you just go back into the cave picking up the family from the airport in in a few hours. So I this narrative that I am like hidden away at home. As as you mentioned, Howard Hughes, we did try to get you out of the house three consecutive days. We couldn't do it. We'll go to do it. You know, I was in it. Sometimes you just severe a little antisocial. That's where I went, That's where I went, he went deep covering. Now you get overwhelmed because the kids are gonna be on fire to

be home. You're gonna be on fire. It's gonna be I missed them, though. It's good. It's gonna be on fire. I don't know about that. We'll see, I mean, hopefully she will be of mellow attitude. We'll find out. All right. Well, there's a lot, a lot hanging in the balance here.

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