The Around the NFL podcast. The history is rich. It's sures.
Ten years from the Chris Westling podcast studio.
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I'm Dan Hansis I got a hero here, Gregi Rosenthal.
It is all.
It's almost weird to talk about how the history is rich without Colleen the originally or said statement.
But we'll get through it.
Also weird when you call me Gregy. That was really only a Debbie Rosenthal thing, but now it's popping up. My kids sometimes call me GREGI here there or my daughter. Really just it's disrespectful.
Frankly, I feel like I've called you Gregi for a couple years.
You've you've been in the next ten years ago this month actually right? Is that right? June eighth? June eighth is the day as we're taping. I moved out here June first, so you're there.
It is jupin first, And that was twenty twelve. Twenty thirteen. July is when we started Around the NFL as a foursome the podcast.
That is how about that?
Like a month later twenty thirteen, I was out here. Wes came out a year month was it? One month later? No, I started with the NFL that year before. But I had that weird year in New York, and West was hired and Tybee got it. I came out in June. He came out in July, and we were we were recording like three weeks later.
Crazy. Today Mark is on a quest of some kind.
We don't ask it questions, where's Mark spiritual?
Perhaps it's perhaps spiritual. I was out on Monday. I hope everything went well. Mark should be back next week.
If everything goes well with his quest, I feel confident I'll be back now.
I think just a couple of his friends are in town, he said. So it's I don't want to get people nervous like Greg that Mark went into like a commune or something that will happen.
Just it's not.
Yet, or like started leading the cult that I've rumored that right possible at.
Some point if we get Here's our promise to the listeners about Mark.
Why are we talking about If uh it goes badly.
Mark starts wearing red sneakers or starts to give off vibes of cult leader in a tangible way, We're gonna give you a heads up so it doesn't you don't get blindsided because the show got blindsided recently. Nobody likes getting blindsided. We will make sure that doesn't happen.
With Mark entering the Cult. Now, today's show, we got actually some news, Greggy.
That's not bad for June eighth. There's some actual stuff to talk about. I think it was all the mini camps happening this week. There will be more even next week. But just like made people act, so I'm I'm happy to have an actual chunky news seg mm hmm.
And for today's conversation piece, we'll call it urgency the teams that have the most urgency entering twenty twenty.
We usually call it a SEG. You don't want to call it a seg. It's a conversation information portal.
Yeah, the SEG is we're gonna talk the urgency rankings or the urgency ratings we're figuring out for teams entering twenty twenty three. And it's an interesting combo. I'm looking forward to having it, Gregy, because it's a little uh, there's some nuance to it.
You know.
It's like it's not just like, oh, everybody, it's like win the super Bowl. It's like we know that what's real and what's not. And different teams have different goals, but some teams have urgency that are higher level than other teams. And one team at a zero point zero on my I think.
I know the same team it had. It had the my lowest mark as.
Well, did they, but higher than zero point zero.
I didn't put I put one as the lowest. I don't know why. I just thought one could be the lowest.
The gentleman zero. All right, Before we do that, though, let's hit the news.
Cousins back to pass, green left to Dalvin, turns it up outside the numbers of the forty, gets to the fifty. Here is a low Alvin twenty to the left, fifteen to ten.
Five touchdok yes, yes.
US sixty four yard touchdown and he had to drag a colt into the end zone.
Oh my goodness.
The immortal Paul Allen on the call for KFA N That was back in December. Dalvin Cook caught a short pass from Kirk Cousins, patting Cousins's stats in numerous categories as he rumbled sixty four yards for a touchdown. The Vikings Then's got a two point conversion. Gregy then kicked the field on overtime. They won thirty nine thirty six over the Colts after trailing thirty three nothing at the half.
The biggest comeback in NFL history and one kind of forgotten because the Vikings went on and done in the playoffs. The Colts are already and like packing in mode in a disaster that year. But in the moment, by the way I locked up the Vikings in this game. I remember watching the lakeisha and bothering. It was wild that they locked it up for me kind of slept on as one of the craziest games ever.
I don't think it will be forg I mean, you're right, like it should be remembered more. But that's the mark.
Now.
It's the greatest comeback in the NFL history. The fact that the Chargers in blew and almost as big a lead in the playoffs maybe took some shine away.
Jeez, that's yeah, g C. That was like three or four weeks later. All right, let's get into it. So, yes, Dalvin Cook that was the man on that play, and he's had some great moments, certainly with Minnesota, over a career that, at age twenty seven, has already included four trips to the Pro Bowl. However, the Dalvin Cook Aaron
Minnesota is over. NFL Network insider Tom Pelisero More and Peli Sero in a moment by the Way, reported that the Vikings and Cook are expected to part ways and it's supposed to go down officially on Friday, unless there could be a last minute of trade here. But it's very likely here that it ends with Cook hitting the open market. Greg a couple of years ago, he's in the conversation as one of the best running backs in the league. Minnesota is in a bit of a transition,
But what's really behind this? How does he end up no longer part of their future.
I think it's curious. They love Alexander Madison. They signed him to a low cost contract, They put him as their Twitter header, took away Dalvin Cook's status as the Twitter header like two months ago. So this move was coming and I think they were trying to get a trade going. Maybe some draft picks didn't happen. I think Dalvin Cook can still play. Then I hear from some smart Vikings fans that, like Eric Eagor used to work at PFF, thinks Cook is a little cooked. I don't
see that. I know he wasn't as explosive a year ago. He still averaged four point four yards per carry. You saw that long touchdown. He had some big plays. He's still good as a receiver. He's turning twenty eight. To me, he's easily the best running back that's actually hit free agency this offseason because all the good ones Pollard in, Jacob's and Saquon all got tagged. I don't think he's like Joe Mixon. He's certainly not like Ezekiel Elliott, where
he's just like hard decline. I think he's gonna go out and help a team.
It's also the age for certain running backs that you have those five or six years.
Le'Veon Bell.
His situation was a little weird because he sat out a year, but he was around the same age, and when he came back after signing that deal with the Jets, he was not the same player anymore. The Vikings obviously think he is a player that is in decline, or they're just looking at their financial situation and saying to themselves, you know, he's due over ten million twenty twenty three. Cutting them after June first allows them to save nine million on the salary cap this season.
With five million of dead money. This is very much Greg as I said, a.
Team that's trying to figure out like where they're going, and they're setting themselves up for the future. And if they like Madison as much as their Twitter head seems to indicate, this is a way to get more fluid financially in the future.
I get it. I just don't think their total number one objective this year is winning games. He's a fourteen million dollar cap hit Dalvin Cook before this release, so that is lot and I think they maybe are trying to open up space for some long term extensions, and Justin Jefferson would be the most logical one among them, and so that might be part of it. But it's been a team that's been like around the cap space
issues all off season. They traded Zadaria Smith, like I think Dalvin Cook could help them, could help a team they're very thin at running back now behind Alexander Madison. I don't know who it's gonna be. Maybe they'll sign like a low cost veteran, but I feel like Cook's gonna have some suitors. The Dolphins have been mentioned, the Broncos have been mentioned as a potential landing spot. They have Javonte Williams, they gave some money the samaj p
wran so would be a little weird. But Denver some reporters there have thrown that out. The Jets make some sense to me.
Depends on the brise Hall situation, I would think.
But if they were interested in a rookie, well, the Rams, I mean Rams don't seem like they're spending on any veterans panthers. I would throw that the Bucks need a running back. These are the types of teams I'm not sure we'll spend. Mike McCarthy said some very positive statements about Dalvin Cook and a little.
Bit of a weird depth chart there, especially with a guy Tony Pollard coming off the leg injury.
That's interesting, Like he doesn't need to be a three hundred carry guy, and I probably shouldn't be. I heard from people who's like, oh, Dalvin Cook, he's always banged up this net. Like he played through a shoulder injury last year and maybe that slowed him down a little in terms of like always seeking out the contact. When you think Dalvin Cook, you think like energetic runs. But he did play all seventeen games. He really hasn't missed that many games. Yeah, so just a quick Vikings timeline
before we move on. Yeah, the Cousins, you know, is a pretty big story a few months back when they are not gonna rework his contract here, so they're letting that play out. Adam Thielen, who's a stalwart there, they let him go. He goes to Charlotte's Daria Smith, as we said, traded. They are taking phone calls on a Daniel Hunter as well. Now Harrison Harrison Smith took a haircut to stay there. So and now you have Dalvin Cook exiting picture. That's a thirteen win team last year.
You don't usually see a play out this way. But they also they were a weird thirteen wins. He puts them low on my urgency rankings spoil. I mean, it just seems like a team with Quesi Adopho Mensa there gm who started a year ago. That's like taking this as a reset year. The Hunter trade news and the news was rap sheet said they're receiving calls on him.
To me was way more surprising. It's like, really, he is one of your best players, and usually that doesn't get out there unless they kind of want they want to trade him. So now I'm thinking Daniel Hunter is not going to be there either, and he's one of their best players. I thought he might be a candidate to get more money, but apparently not real.
Quick back to that thirty three nothing come back.
Do you remember the Pell Raiser interview with Cousins after the game?
Vaguely?
Let's play just a little bit of that, Kirk.
No team had ever come back from thirty three points down and won a game until today. How did you pull off the big come back in NFL history? We just pulled off the biggest comeback in NFL history.
Okay, I need a second Tom, I need a second Tom. I love that he hit.
The light went off in Hirk's eyes here. He's like, you can't come at me anymore for not showing up in a big spot. I've got that.
Yeah, my running back can rumble sixty seven yards on the screen with no one around him and carry four guys in.
The end zone. No, I like Cousins, I got to take us, sir.
In disconcerting news, the Colts and cornerback Isaiah Rodgers. There's something going on here. He was not on the field for Wednesday's offseason workout admit an NFL investigation into.
His gambling activities.
Rogers the subject of a league investigation into possible violations of the league's gambling policy, including possible bets placed on Colts games.
Yikes.
Rogers acknowledged the situation on social media early this week, saying he takes quote full responsibility for his actions. Boy, Greg, So this is something that the Lions got hit with Jamison Williams, their star rookie wide receiver, suspended multiple games and other players that were connected to that. Now you
have a cornerback who and this where it gets really dicey. Obviously, the betting appear apparently is connected to the cults themselves, which is kind of a nightmare scenario in this new gambling world that the professional football landscape has embraced.
Right ESPN sources, I'm going off of Stephen Holder, who's their local cult supporter, and David Purdam had that he made roughly one hundred bets and they were like in the twenty five to fifty dollars range, with maybe like a low four figure bet thrown in there. So it's just stupidity because no one's getting rich off of even though it's pervasive. It is, that's very pervasive. He was just doing it. I mean, he just didn't care, didn't think he was gonna get caught, apparently because he had
someone else make them for him. But it was like easy to trace it back apparently, like what are we doing here? Like all for what?
Like?
Because he's not making much money off of this, and the fact that it's on the Colts has some speculation that, look, he could be suspended indefinitely, like they could be threatening his career or say that he has to do certain
things before he ever returns. And this was a starter who was a sixth round pick, had elevated to a starter last year, had a very good year, was an above average starting cornerback in the NFL last year, which was kind of a surprise for such a late pick who got his first chance and was just about to get paid, probably because he's entering the final year of his rookie deal and that's all gone now.
Yeah, I mean I've heard and yeah, this one's pretty cut and dry because it's gambling and it's involving his team and all that. Every player knows that's not allowed. But I've heard some pushback with some of these other gambling suspense that have occurred in the last year or so, and even you know, some critics criticism towards the league's policies and whether they're clear enough, and it's like, now, you know, get lost with that. It's like you these
guys have to know just full stop. You have a whole life after football to do whatever you want in this realm. This message needs to be loud and clear. You can't do any of this. It doesn't matter what the sport is. You just got to stay away from it or they're gonna find you because these investigations the leagues, the league needs to be on top of this at this level because it brings into question the integrity of the game. So they're gonna be hunting for guys that
are doing anything in this world. So you just got to be smart enough. And he wasn't smart. And it's a lot of guys that seems that aren't being smart about it right now.
I guess it was inevitable. I didn't really see this coming, but I guess this was inevitable when this happened in terms of gambling becoming legal through throughout the country, most of the country not California, that this was going to happen, that you needed to have like five to ten guys totally mess up. You would think that will be enough to get people aware to prevent it in the future. But you would have thought that already. And the Colts
are very thin there by the way. For what it's worth, he's their kick returner, he's a starting cornerback. I would say they have one of the worst cornerback groups in the NFL, and he was, you know, one of their best, you know, might have been their best cornerback.
Yeah, other thank anymore. I don't think we're going to see him for a while. NFL Networks Tom Pellissero, There he is again. Reports the Titans summer of I know, are hosting DeAndre Hopkins for a visit. It was confirmed when Mike Vrabel met with the media. You want to hear a little bit of a.
Little spicy rabes haven't heard this, not too spicy.
Let's just hear from him visit.
I mean, is it a recruiting opportunity or like, how do how do does that benefits?
You know?
I mean I'm past the recruiting. I did that in college, you know what I mean? I think that again, would really just want people that want to be here, and then if that works out, then you go on to the next step. So that will this will be pretty much it until we you know, either sign or or don't sign the next.
Player and the here's the Belichick disciple and a part two of the question about DeAndre Campler's got.
A reputation from this will be you know again this if that's what you're gonna ask your question about today, Paul, I'm gonna give you another opportunity, but I'm going to talk about the players that are here, and when deandres here, I'll visit with him and then we'll move on when we make any other transactions from there.
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what. I couldn't really hear what the did you hear it?
I think he was saying like he has a little bit of a reputation of and yeah, he cut him off before. I don't even know. He's like he's got a history of not practicing, cuts him off, and he comes back in the last guy that didn't practice, and then he kind of talking to Julio Jones. He's saying, do you want to make the same mistake.
Oh okay, I forgot that.
Leo Jones was on the Titans for a second there, but yes he was for a hot minute a couple of years back.
Yeah, this is they're still.
Kind of digging out Gregie from the AJ Brown mistake that they made the management made. I don't know if is Hopkins to fit there. I don't know if it is.
I just think it's always Paul. It's always pap. Yeah, like the look on Brabel's face. He is that one reporter that, like, I feel like Rabel's.
Larski is the guy that hated the Titoons nickname right.
He's the one you once had a back and forth.
He had a little conversation on this show.
He seems to mix it up with whoever wherever he goes. I get like questioning their idea of signing another aging wide receiver. It has not worked out for them. Robert Woods was on that team too, right, Yeah, he was. I mix it up because he's on the Texans now. None of it's worked, but they need another receiver. So actually, if they're trying to win this year, and I think they are, it makes a lot of sense to me. Nick Westberg, Akina is their number two receivers like Kyle
Phillips is there three? They could they could use a receiver.
If Hopkins wants to be there, you got to make it happen. And because they have made as far as we know this, like you're saying when you keep the veteran quarterback and you're keeping Dereck Henry in the building, you're you're sending a message to your fans, who I think they're happy to hear it, at least the ones that are always looking for immediate results, that you're in it to win it. And you obviously have a big
hole there. And Hopkins, even if he's not the same guy, huge up Greg, Greg Greg.
If they can add him.
It would be big. It does have the feeling of like Hopkins is not getting the money he wants from the Bills and the Chiefs specifically being used a little bit. There's being reports that both those teams are interested, but they're like they're not giving him Modell Beckham money. They probably say, hey, look you want to go chase a ring, We'll pay you one year, We'll give you some incentives.
The base is probably under ten million dollars, come play with us, and he might not be down with that, and so he either is gonna take the money or use the Titans for the money, but they would have to probably pay a Titans premium.
And that connects with the bird Breer report from last week that he might have to take what was the bag or the chase the ring, probably not going to get the ring.
Intend It's easy for me to say, but he's made a lot of money and careful. A place like Buffalo or Kansas City would be a you know, you could you go there for like one year and you still will make let's say eight million dollars. That's like, that's kick that's putting it forward. But I know they don't have a long shelf life of how many years in factor in taxes, yeah, state taxes. I gotta think it's less too in Tennessee than in Buffalo.
Another graveyard comes off the board. Frank Clark has a home the Denver Broncos signed the Edge Rusher, formerly of the Chiefs. One year, five and a half million, could get up another two million if he hits some incentives. He's had a quiet market greggie and is maybe not the guy he was at his peak, but a nice rotation oh Rusher gives the Denver Little Denver a little more juice there.
When I did a projected starters, I thought their edge rushing position was among the worst in the league. Like pretty interesting defense.
Otherwise post Bradley Chubb era right.
No Chubb, von Miller's also gone some guys that might may or may not fit, so kind of makes sense. But I was feeling like Charles Frank Clarke was a little a little cooked, was not contributing a lot to the Broncos. So I mean, to the Chiefs. I don't think he's gonna be a big difference maker, but it's nice. I like when they the one oh one guys get pushed off the list. I just feel better. I just wanted to listen to be empty.
Hm, who's the best player left now?
Well, now Cook is gonna be on there. Oh, but DeAndre Hopkins is. Don't you wish he was on there in March when the piece had juice? Well, yes, and I respect our editor al Lei von Purry, but he sees and Hopkins gets cut or Cook gets cut, He's like, ooh, fresh meat. Let's go to another right to put him on and then we can put it back into the rotation, like here's where Cook.
Is in other news.
You know, there's always gonna be a ton of coverage around the Cowboys, always right, and they're doing their job. They do their job as well Jarah and the whole organization because they give the national media and the local media fresh material. And this is no different this spring because they are really pumping up this new offense. They're calling it Greg have you heard what they're calling. They're talking up the Texas Coast offense. I mean, can't you
just hear Stephen A. Smith screaming right now? And Mike McCarthy. Zaddy himself has not been shy as you know, talking about's underlook exactly, he's puffing his chest out.
He's calling plays this year.
And despite Dallas being a highly ranked offense, let's listen to Zaddy once again. Given some gruel, thrown in some meat into the old churn blend there.
They need to own offense. You know, I have no interest in being known as some guru coach or a smart coach. I'm a smart Hall of Fame type quarterbacks. You've got to make them own the offense. And and you see, he has a personality, but it's just like anything. This is our first year of playing the way we want to play, and he's done a really good job of taking ownership of that. And then with that, you know the mental challenges. You know he is, he's knocked out of the park.
The first of all. Kellen Moore, who is in LA now at the charge.
This this narrative that they're spinning out of out of the star, that now we get to play that the way we want to play. Mike, come back to us, you a head coach, Bud like you can't say that he doesn't look good on you. He's saying, now he gets to be himself as a play caller this year, and that's why they're going to be better.
And they're pretty damn good last.
Year play the play the way we want to play. They were fourth in the points story in twenty twenty two. They were first in twenty twenty one. I mean, points are important, not the way they wanted to play though. I get it. But he's he's showing kind of like mid career Jerry Jones coach symptoms here.
They're kind of perfect together where he is.
Now starting he's not hitting out, but he's at least needling Jerry and letting the public know like, Hey, this wasn't really on me. This was Jerry forcing his guy on me. And I've got enough cachet with Jerry now I can throw that out there because I know he doesn't take things personally, which is to Jerry Jones's credit. I am not that optimistic though, of Mike McCarthy and Brian Schottenheimer being an upgrade. But we'll see.
I mean, listen to these quotes coming out of Dallas. Here's Zach Martin the Guard. It's more of an attitude. Deal said of a McCarthy's effect as a Pittsburgh guy calling plays, That's the best way I can describe it.
McCarthy's gotten a lot of mileage out of being from Pittsburgh. I feel like that has been brought up when it is related to a lot carthy. He needs that beer back. Though not feeling the Zaddi vibes from Mike right now, okay, I feel like it's better when it's a beard. Also in my mind is a twenty fourteen Packers game that was on NFL Network the other night, The boy you want Sports at the dinner table at dinner. Yeah, there
was no basketball. I had no local baseball. I couldn't find a baseball game, so we just put on the old Saints Packers from twenty fourteen. I have no idea why that game was on. But Mike looked better then, is my point?
The most Greg Dinner situation possible, Little Saints Packers. You're saying he looked better, he looked better back then, Well it was nine years ago.
I imagine living with me, who.
Among us did not look better nine years ago? It happens the case.
You know, Mark looks pretty good now, you're looking very zaddy like. I'm not saying Mark look bad nine years ago, but honestly, Mark is looking pretty hot. You got the facial air, you know. But you're right, nine years is a long time.
Now. Are you just fishing for a compliment?
Greg, I'm not because I know it's not true.
Check used to have a.
Good line about this, and I think it's very true, which is we're all kind of hard on our own appearance, and you look at and then you'll look at like a Facebook photo from your twenties or whatever, or you know, ten fifteen years ago, and you'll be like, oh I look good there. Yeah, But back then you didn't think you look good, and he guess what, like ten fifteen years, we're gonna look back at how we look.
Now, that's pretty good.
It's wise, wise good.
Mark does look good. Well, of course, once he got Levi too. He's got the new jeans, he's got the black boots and Levi.
He's got a whole thing going on. We love it.
That's uh, that's everything in the news. Let's take a break and get urgent. All right, welcome back, Greg, Here we go.
You're ready.
It gets so urgent, so urgent. You know it's urgent. I want to tell you it's the same for me. So o o urgent. Just you wait and see how urgent our love can be. It's urgent. You say it's urgent. Make it fast, make it urgent, do it quick, do it urgent, gotta rush, make it urgent, want it quick, urgent, urgent emergency, so urgent, emergency.
It's urgent.
Don't know what that is, but sometimes it started to make me feel uncomfortable at the point you said make it quick. It's like, let me let me uh, let me spend some time here, let me enjoy myself. I don't want to make it quick.
Sometimes when you it feels like a good move to, Like when you're trying to make a like a deep point or really connect on a level that makes you seem profound, you you go and dig up some lyrics from like maybe like Bob Dylan, like Blood on the Tracks. In this case, I chose Foreigner, and they're a nineteen eighty one hit urgent, so it didn't have the same It didn't come off the way I wanted it to it in my mind. But if anybody wants to pause and listen to that song, is Parker around. We have
Parker behind the glass. She loves of all that late second.
Feel more urgency on that front than I don't know a lot about Foreigner.
I feel like Foreigner you'll be shocked to go down. If you ever were to just randomly go down a random Foreigner wormhole, you would be stunned to know how successful I were.
I feel like though, between Foreigner and Journey, there could only be one, and Journeys won the battle.
Journey one.
My kid, my daughter is finishing in elementary school this week. It's a little off topic. Congratulations, thank you, And they played you know, a slide show of all the pictures over the years, like showing them in kindergarten and now up through fifth grade, and they played Don't Stop Believing. As part of it. All the kids are singing the song they know the Worst Journey's won.
My eldest son Jack last year for their creative writing portion of school.
That was the song their.
Twenty four year old school teacher put on to get them into the headspace of created writing.
They also know the lyrics to September by Earth Wind and Fire Shocked Me.
You know what else? So shock you.
Foreigner has worldwide sales of more than eighty million records, including forty million in the US.
Anyway, urgency.
In some ways, GREGI all teams have it, but that's not necessarily true because there are different levels of urgency. And I'm going to do a piece on this on NFL dot com, but this will be a good kind of testing ground, though. You and I can chop it up a little bit and talk about the teams that are facing the most.
Urgency entering twenty twenty three.
And let's get it started dustly, Greg, because I brought it up before. This is the old Steinbrenner principle. Anything less than a super Bowl appearance is considered failure. And so I'm going to start with the team that I think has the most urgency, and it's the Buffalo Bills, because I think they are truly Super Bowl or bust. And the dark side of the coin is is pretty damn dark. And I don't think it means like coaches and gms are getting fired necessarily, but kind of blown up.
The roster in some ways is certainly in play. I think if they fail this year, and it just opens up a level of doubt around the organization if they don't get over the hump.
So I'm gonna if.
I had to set like zero point zero out of ten point zero, I'm putting the Bills higher than anybody in this exercise. I'll put them at a nine point seven on the urgency scale. Buffalo Bills. Are you with me that they have the most urgency of a league?
Oh?
Interesting? What do you got?
But it's close? Well my first one, and I admit maybe this is Yeah, see if what kind of reaction I get? I think it's your New York Jets m hm, okay, just because they're the other teams that are most logical for most a I had the Bills sort of second or third. I think comparing them to the Bengals is inter because I actually put the Bengals slightly ahead of
the Bills, although they're very similar to me. But the Bengals right now, I feel like, have this offense together right now, and I don't know how long it can stay together, very specifically talking about T Higgins, maybe Joe Mixon, I'm not really that worried about, but even their defensive core that it just feels like now is the time for the Bengals. So I put them slightly ahead of the Bills. But they have quarterbacks in the middle of their prime that are I maybe going to the Hall
of Fame somedays. So I just feel like, if they're smart about it, it's not quite as urgent as a team like the Jets, who have a one to two year window. I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers will be playing really well for three years. It's just we haven't seen someone that old play at that level other than Tom Brady for three years, or even play at all. And so to me, they have a super Bowl ready roster.
The longer this offseas got on, the more I'm convinced that Jets should be really good actually that they won't be overhyped, but it just feels like it's like they are truly now or ever because of Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah, and I have them at nine point six, so they were second on my linad.
I gave him a perfect ten. I just wanted to give someone a ten.
That's fair.
And I think for the Jets, they were kind of in a different category and that's something that I'll kind of when I do my write up, I'll focus on. So where the Bills to me are super Bowl or bust A team like the Jets. It's not super Bowl or bust, but it's playoffs or breadline for a lot of people. And it's Robert Sala, potentially Joe Douglas, Aaron Rodgers.
If the season went sideways, you just don't know what happens after this year, even though I think it's a two year proposition is what I would guess it is.
But a lot of things.
Get really murky if they do not feel to double digit win team.
So I'm with you on that.
The Bills I've just to cycled to why I have them kind of as like the team just ahead of everyone else.
This is since Josh Allen really came into his own.
They lost in the wild card round, they lost in the conference playoffs, they lost in the division playoffs that heartbreaker obviously against Mahomes, and then lost again in the division playoffs where they really were beat up and beaten pretty badly by the Bengals and kind of an eye
opening playoff loss. So you have that taste in their mouth, and I guess maybe I just give them a little bit of the edge because the stakes are higher, because it's just like this kind of tortured franchise that now has this great quarterback and this really good core And I did, you know, check in with your projected starters, greg like and coming up with my list, and it's like, is there enough around them? Did they do enough this year?
They didn't make the big splash? You know, maybe DeAndre Hopkins ends up there and then you feel a lot better. But will they look back with a lot of regret if this upcoming season ends like last season and they're like, wait a second, we had the warning when the Bengals beat us up in are in Buffalo, right, if I'm not mistaken, like, and we didn't really.
Attack, So anyway, I hear that. You're right, they're going for different things. I put them all on one scale. But the Jets, to me, have a higher kind of high wire act where it's like they could theoretically win seven or eight games. So you're right, like their bar if they win a playoff game, they win eleven games, but they their urgency to me to do at least that is like the highest of any league, because if they if they if it got ugly there, it's a
tough division. If they won seven or eight games, it's just going to be a total disaster. Of course, if the Bills won seven or eight games, that would be a total disaster too, but they'd still have Josh Allen and I just can't imagine them actually doing that. Bills fans try to enjoy this, though the whole George Steinbrenner thing.
Is getting antsy.
Though Bills fans are antsy, I know, but this is been promised for a couple of years now that it's gonna last forever.
If you win twelve games and you lose in the playoffs, at least enjoy the twelve games. Enjoy the enjoy the way there.
It's not a coincidence either that we led with two a AFC East teams. I think it's the best division in football right now because of the rosters, the talent on the rosters. But it meet and it meets this urgency overload because I also have the Dolphins at eight and a half in this exercise, okay, because they're they're fully loaded and ready to go, but now they just got to go. And the Patriots, Greg, this is why it's they are not a super Bowl or bus team.
But I put them at eight because and I put them in their own category, Greg, They're the only team that had their own tier.
I had them in the Foxboro Triangle and that's.
We weren't going to be special the Patriots and we got our own team.
Maybe, yeah, maybe things are changing that Belichick Craft Mac Jones Foxborough Triangle. I think a lot can change if they have a bad year and they need to show growth. With Bill O'Brien at OC and all the positive reports coming out of there, that has to translate.
Where did you have the Pats.
In this I had them ranked eighth and just below the Dolphins. Kind of a tie a tie there among a bunch of teams. But yeah, now that I look at it. I had four of my eight most urgent teams were in that division. I think the Dolphins are an interesting one too, because I know Tyreek Hill is so important. I just don't think Tyreek Hill is going to last forever and just sort of be in a perfect spot. So I do think that's an urgent situation.
And the Patriots, yeah, when when the coach has to win and it's in a tough spot, I think they have a lot of urgency. So it's a you know that someone's gonna leave this division incredibly disappointed. I suppose, you know, there's a scenario. I guess the Patriots win nine games and are still in fourth place, and I guess that's where everyone's roughly happy. But that's hard to.
Imagine, and I don't think that leads to some huge blow up. But yeah, I think that's kind of generally seen. Their ceiling could be about ten wins or so.
Your schedule is brutal, especially out of the gates. It's urgent there, people are people are fighting in OTAs. You don't really hear that too often.
Yeah, but you know Belichick loves that.
Yeah, he likes it. Got a real TV.
So my Steinbrunner principal had the Bills the Bengals for similar reasons.
The Bills and the like football, like football season, all the things that go with it. Also with the Bengals, as we've talked about on the show, have had that core in place for several years on offense and that's not going to last forever. And they've been knocking on the door for a couple of years now, including a
near Super Bowl win. I think it's this idea to get over the hump as much as our QB says their windows his whole career, and the Eagles already have the Eagles in this exercise because I think their urgency is sky high.
For me, in fact, I had them near the top of my list.
I got them a cool nine out of ten, and I understand they're set up well for beyond this upcoming year.
But also, like the other factor is like this is a water down conference.
Another team that was knocking at the door last year with a MVP level young quarterback, and you had that defense that might even be better this year, and everything seems so perfectly lined up that this feels like you know, in the NFL, things changed quickly, so the iron. Here is hot, strike it, get that w get over the hump. I think they were at a nine out of ten.
Fit, yeah, I had I had them at eight and a half, and they were my fifth ranked team in terms of urgency, so right towards the top, and you're absolutely right. You know how they remind me of is the twenty eighteen Eagles and the twenty seventeen Falcons. Those were two teams that coming into the season everyone was like, that's the best roster in the league, and both of those teams ended up making it back to the playoffs. I think they even each they each win one game,
but it still was hard to recapture that magic. And sometimes it looks so perfect on paper. They were ahead of schedule a year ago. Now is the year I think was their push year where they really thought they were going to be great. They did a good job keeping as many people there as they could, including Graham and Flesher, Cox and James Bradbury and Slay like it's not going to stay together. I'm with you, especially with that conference. They're the most urgent of any NFC team.
I had the Cowboys right with him because we talked about a little bit Zotti before and maybe there's a little bit of a I don't want to call say bad blood between Jarrah and McCarthy, but McCarthy's putting it out there that this is his team more than ever and if.
They take a step back or Dak takes a step back.
I think you and I definitely differed on Dak a little bit because I read in your projected starters that you kind of labeled him. I can't remember what you said, like a top QB or something where I feel like there's enough evidence that maybe he should be a little bit lower in that conversation, but.
Like in the seven to ten range, but that's a solidly ahead of like the Kirk Cousins in the Tannehills a holder.
That's where I disagree a little bit.
I think I think last year was a weird year in terms of perceptions.
But not that he's going to lose his job, but there could be Mike McCarthy's facing a lot of pressure and they're a team that you know, cannot get over the hump, cannot get into the NFC title game, and you kind of I get the feeling that with Jerry Jones now in his eighties that if this thing doesn't get them, if they don't get to the final four this year, there's going to be changes there.
Yeah, I should move them up a little. I had them too low. They just seem so happy and they're fine. But you're right with the coach possibly losing his job was important to me on this urgency scale. Well, that's why I have one team that we haven't brought I have two teams, but one I had the only other one I had over nine.
Yeah, we have not brought up, and that is the Cleveland Browns. Yep, I had him in the nine as well.
Okay, hey, they're in my top five, just because I just think even if the outside expectations aren't as high, the ownership expectations are going to be sky high. They need to show something for this Deshaun Watson trade. I don't think the Hopkins is gonna happen. It sounded like Deshaun Watson was pushing that was hot for a minute there. I don't think that's gonna happen. But they did bring in Zidarius, but they don't have a lot of huge holes.
I think it's a good roster. So I just think their playoffs are bust at the at the least in the urgency is sky high. Yeah, there's a.
Lot of reason for optimism there, but also I think a creeping sense of dread because Watson could get everyone fired.
And if that, if.
Watson stinks and they fall in their face this year, it will make the Cleveland Browns a different kind of eternal laughing stock because that will go down in history as that that will absolutely be in the conversation.
We're not getting aheaded into that or trying to take it.
It's still got four years left on the deal.
I'm saying, like, if this was truly, if this cratered, it would be in the herschel Walker conversation. Like so until we get until we're it's proven and you're pushing the DeShawn might not be good card a little hard than I am. I'm just saying it's kind of out there until it's not at all. So there's a lot of urgency for this season to produce results.
And by herschel washer Walker, you mean the trade, not him embarrassing himself as a public figure afterwards, because.
I know I a lot to block out his his what was it run for congrein Senate.
Yeah, that did not.
Nobody was covered in glory connected to that on his side of things. But as a good running back, Yes, the Cowboys set up their dynasty with a trade with the Minnesota Vice.
I've settled it on like, Watson's probably more likely than not to be an above average quarterback, right, but being like the thirteenth best quarterback in the league, that trade is a fiasco. If even if that happens, I know he's not going to be the thirtieth best quarterback in the league. Again, that that would be crazy.
Yeah, they should be if they're not contending for a playoff s butt in January. It's everyone's very nervous around there. Let's see. Let me see a team that we haven't discussed. Where did you have the Chargers? I had them at eight and a half.
Yeah, I had them at eight. They were like tenth on my list because they've gotten to the playoffs, they've had a winning record under Brandon Staley, but the defense has shown no ability to get better. You have Justin Herbert still on his rookie contract. I feel like they're in perennial. They're like always the same. They've probably been at this level for years, like ownership is not when is that not good enough? Like I feel like ownership is fine with them just doing this year after year.
So it's not quite as urgent. But I'm feeling the urgency.
Well, Brandon ste Staley's feeling urgency, right, I mean they they had a historic meltdown in the playoff game. That's you know, that's gonna wipe away all any goodwill. And they have a roster that on paper is ready to compete and at a certain point, and less ownership is disconnected and doesn't care that much about seeing tangible progress.
You would think they need to.
Get back to the playoffs and yeah and not you know, lay like an embarrassing egg in January for the coach to be back.
Right, I would think so. And I worry for Brandon Stey because on paper of the defense looks worse to me, and he hasn't been able to coach up the defense at all. I have one team though, ahead of the charges that we haven't hit in my top six.
Okay, we haven't even mentioned him. The Washington Commanders, Oh, they're low for me.
I mean they anytime a new owner is coming in, I feel like it's urgent time. I know our expectations aren't crazy high, but I feel like he's got to make the playoffs or everything gets blown up there.
I mean, it's been the name. It might not stay around. I mean, I don't want to make everything just the QB conversation. But Sam Howell versus Jacoby Brissett doesn't scream team urgent to have a big season or else like. It seems like a team that's very purposely, you know, sitting in the marina with the boat neutral, waiting for things to settle before they really dive in next year. Sure, And I don't know if that's good news for Ron River or the worst news possible.
I think it's the worst news possible.
I think if you're docked in the marina, bro, you're a six or lower for me. I mean, are they on the high seas?
I'm putting them out on the high seas? You put them on the high seats. I mean, they've got a lot of veterans on the team, they don't have a lot of huge weaknesses. They're paying a lot of money. I know they don't have any quarterbacks, but I guess if it was coach urgency rankings. I feel like he would be in the top five because he when a new owner comes in, he's he's lived this life before. Same thing happened in Carolina. He's got to win now or else they blow it up.
I think they're gonna have a big name quarterback next We'll be talking about this time next year.
Okay.
But that's why I kind of have them a little lower. I have, you know, the team the division that has the least urgency.
Which is kind of funny. The idea of an entire division.
Be like, eh, the NFC sound yes, the Bucks? I have at a three excited you know what are the Baker versus Kyle Trask. They have a weird roster with a bunch of veterans, but no Tom Brady anymore.
They kept the head coach there.
I guess there's some coach urgency there to show they can grow, especially on defense, but they're not necessarily set up for success there or.
Either, Greg, Like, how do you even make sense to them now?
I put them out a five just because they have an older GM and coach and some veterans on that team, But that whole division to me didn't seem that lack of urgent. I had the Saints and the Falcons pretty high. They're pretty much up next after Chargers.
Yeah, I kind of did too. Actually, I gotta sorry. I had the Falcons. That's seven and a half, so I should take walk back a little bit.
Yeah, they're they're They're in year three of this process, and I feel like they have to show something. I feel like Dennis Allen has to show something. They're really talking up a big game in New Orleans like that. They're the favorites of that division. I feel like the AFC South is the divisi where there's no urgency. I don't have anyone above a five. I got the Jaguars at four. Even the Jaguars, it doesn't feel that urgent. They could fuss around.
I got the Jags of the six and a half, the Titans at six and a half, Cults at five, Texans at six.
Whoa, we're on our own little scale. So I get the Jaguars at four, the Texans, Titans three. Right now at the bottom of my whole list because I feel like all these teams could kind of mess around this year. If the Jaguars took a big step back, it would be frustrating, But They're a relatively young team with a young quarterback, and Peterson has some rope. And then the other teams all have rookie quarterbacks and new situations, either new head coaches or in the Titans case, at least
a new general manager. So it's like a lot of teams that are just starting from scratch.
There's a little sub.
NFC North category I want to introduce, like be a grower, be a shower. The Detroit Lions and the Chicago Bears. I don't think either team, although the Lions. I think it's expected that the Lions now make the playoffs, which just feels like a weird thing to say, but they are expected to take that jump. But I don't know if people get fired if they don't make it, and
I don't expect them to creter either. And the Bears, I think I agreed with their whole esthetic this offseason, which is get behind justin fields and then help him out. And I think you saw that in both free agency and in the draft, and it helps I guess for them that they they're starting from such a low point
that there's going to be progress. You'd think there is a Matt Ebraflus question that has that conversation that has to be had here, and I think that's where why I have them maybe a little higher.
I have the Bears at seven for that reason. A lot of ebra flu seven and a half.
I have them, Actually I got them at six and a half. I got the Packers at seven, and I have the Lions the highest in that division at seven and a half because the reason I think they're feeling urgent is like now's the time, Like they've never gone into a season with this much hype. They are set up well for a while, but a division title would mean so much to that city and to that organization, and it's all set up for them. They are literally
the favorites. They have great line play. It's kind of exactly what they've been building tour is this moment, and so I feel like that is urgent. If they had like an eight and nine season and came in second in that division, weirdly, it'd be a pretty big letdown the Lions.
The Lions, Yeah, I think I agree with you. I agree with you. I'm with you on that. I don't know the Packers surprising me. You have them a little higher than I do. I have them at a five, the same as the Vikings, where it's you know, there's like success is kind of hard to even calibrate what the Packers you want to. Obviously see the quarterback show tangible signs of growth, But I don't think the power
structure is in doubt there. It's true, and I think love is going to get at least one year here.
There's the whole like prove Aaron Rodgers wrong thing that makes it feel a little more gurent. The fan base there makes it feel a little more adjurent. I had the Vikings thirty first on my list out of thirty two teams two and a half. I'm giving him. You cut Dalvin Cook, you trade Zdaria Smith. You're trying to trade Daniel Hunter. You're coming off total found money with a thirteen win season, and then your coach and your GM is in total job security mode, which is great.
I think they should be. They did a great job there a year too. I had them all the way at the bottom, only above the thirty second team, which I assume we have the same team.
I'm gonna drop the Vikings to a three. Wow, it's such a great case. Yeah, the Cardinals, I had to stick at a zero point zero just there, and that's not even a kind of is a takedown, but it's also like just it is what it is, like there's no urgency to win this year and they are playing for next year. They're the textbook definition of a team that isn't playing or you know, playing with any sense of urgency for the upcoming season.
I don't even think it's a hip piece.
No, Colt McCoy is scheduled to be their starter. Their fan base will be happy if they win four or five games or cause violence.
They just got like bored of DeAndre Hopkins and they're just like a I get them.
Out of here a couple urgency. I wonder if I'm sure the fan base is listening would disagree. But the only other teams that we haven't mentioned that I have below five. I said the whole my whole AFC South, other than actually my entire AFC South is but I have the Giants pretty low because I think they're kind of similar to the Vikings that they're just like found money and if they took a step back, everyone kind of gets it as long as they'd show some like
growth and talent. I have the Panthers low number one overall quarterback. Just how he looks is the most important thing. But they don't need to win this year, and then the Rams, I guess, have to be low even though they have Cooper, Cup and Donald. How can they feel like what they're doing is urgent? Next year is urgent for them?
Yeah, I have them at a seven, but I couldn't really figure out what they're doing.
But I'm not alone.
Everyone's trying to kind of figure out the Rams plan of attack this year.
It's like a gap year, you know, you like take a year off of college and you just like go travel the world and then you come back and try to hit it hard.
I mean I didn't do that, but that's something. Yeah, it seems like it would have been cool the gap Rams here. We should do gap years in this country.
Just like as as a profession, like as once you.
What is that the post university European thing to do? Like you graduate and then you just take a year off and you see help us out overseas listeners, because I think that's what it is. And then you get to be that you get to backpack and go stay at hostels and things of that nature and then you then you start your career.
Hey, with this economy, you might not have a choice.
So this guy gets it all right, let's good conversation. Anything else you want to hit there and check out NFL dot com next week. I think I'll have something up on this looking forward. Did we miss anything? I feel like we didn't. I feel like we hit everything we needed.
To there at almost every team. I've got the Broncos and the Steelers square in the middle of my my urgency rankings, just like middle tier Ravens where you get the Ravens, they're like upper middle class, you know, upper middle Samesy.
Samesy's let's bring in Frags Frags behind the glass. Wow, she's from the newsroom.
She's gonna come sit in because, uh well, let's get our seated here, ladies and gentlemen. Alexandra fre Golf, Wow, the legend herself. Yes, get situated.
Frags.
Frags has joined the show before, but only behind the glass. So this is a first, but very often the shantouse on our on our drops.
Well said, you are the shantoose of around the NFL. Alex how are you?
I'm great? I was not told that this was on camera. Thanks, guys.
So that's cute at a certain Dan, I mean, you could say it's on Dan Frags, but at this certain point we do the show in a studio with lighting and cameras on us.
Yeah, but every other time I've just stood behind the glass, I know.
And I thought this would be a good way to to make things a little bit more direct.
But can I apologize? Do you want to go behind the glass?
I accept your apo in the past that has been behind the glass, but don't worry, Like, in no way are our listeners weirdos and the ones that only listen to audio usually like, there's no way they're going to go to the YouTube just to see what's going on with Frags.
Okay, way to make un comfortable, Greg, all right, Frags, Now this is a good color.
That was more. That was more a shot at our list.
Yeah, listeners be normal people, you know, Okay, Frags you are And we've worked together forever, right, I mean since very.
Long time, twenty ten.
That's showing my age, but yes, samesis.
But it is what it is well for me.
Yeah, And the one thing you got to know about Frags is she is a traveler, a world traveler, in fact, yes, and I thought, with summer right around the corner, our listeners who are all normal and not at all creepy are going to really benefit from Frags giving some tips for summer travel.
Before we say goodbye today head into the weekends. Okay, so I'm going to see you up. Okay you have a yes.
No, I'm just gonna say relax, everybody, smile and watch your worries wash away.
On the white sand beaches of Fragola Town.
You said, bellissimo, belissima, Belizi.
We'll work on your travel tips with Freckle.
Okay, all right, do you want to go down a list? How many guys?
I mean, you didn't really give me a lot of info just by travel tip.
Yeah, how about number one?
Here's some stuff travel like credit card dot doesn't exist, because it doesn't.
Okay, go on like flesh.
It out, go to Venice, Italy because it's not going to be there forever.
Just go.
Have credit card debt. It won't matter.
So just open up that that extra card, max it out if you have.
To make sure it has points and lounge access.
Feels irresponsible, but you're a travel advisor, not a financial advisor, that's an importants.
No one would ever bring me on their podcast to discuss, and if they.
Would, I like that. Though, You're right, these places there there, There's only so much in your life that you can squeeze them all in. You better get working at it exactly all right.
So just to put a bow on that.
One, spend money, have fun now, worry about the financial consequences later.
Tip number two from life Advice. Yeah, I like that.
I let me see, okay, let me give you something Chao, Oh, we'll give you something Italian Okay, just actually okay. Side note, I'm going to Italy in about two and a half weeks. And who I'm going to hang out with there David.
Ely whoaly himself in Italy and his friends nearly another newsroom staple for years with.
The listeners here, A huge fan, wow, big Panthers fan.
So I was just telling him that in Italy you are not to order a cappuccino.
Afternoon after the new hour.
Okay, that's tip number two.
That is a breakfast drink. You will be embarrassed at the Italian bar if you ask for anything older than an espresso.
This is so important because define embarrassed well, you just get a look like oh the American.
You might get a like an absolutely not. I mean it depends how easily.
Oh they might say no they.
Could see Greg, I want to start spreading my wings.
And seeing other things people were depends what.
You Italians are.
How many times have you been to Italy?
Have probably been to Italy like six or seven?
You really do travel at Wait, so you were in Japan this offseason? Yes, which Korea?
Finally enough, I was just saying you never sent me travel tips for oom and this guy was supposed to hook me up with Tokyo travel.
Tips and oh he promised it on top and he did not. Well, I don't know if I promised it, but that would I guess be. Another tip is ask someone who travels there a lot for tips ahead of time.
Just not Gregy.
It's just not.
Do not ask Greg for travel tip all right.
Travel tip number oh to put a bow on that one. Do not order a cappuccino after twelve o'clock noon. You may get looks, You might even get denied a real social no.
No number three number three okay, a really practical one, yeah, fantastic one. City Mapper City Mapper it's a fantastic app. You basically it has different cities in it. It works all over the world. It depends on what city you're in. But like Japan, they had it for Kyoto and Tokyo, they had it for Soul, they have it all over London they have.
It here, and you're in London. Where else?
That's all I've been.
Well that's a lot. That's it.
Yeah, and then you just put in where you're going, where you are, where you're trying to get to, and it gives you like how much a taxi would cost, how much an uber would cost, gives you all the transportation options, how it'll take, how long it could take to walk?
Better than ways?
Oh my god, infinitely better because it gives you all the public transportation. It'll give you your tube stop city. So that's actually practical.
Tip, that's extremely practical.
Use that in Tokyo because I didn't tell you how.
Because you didn't tell me anything.
So that's a manage. Though, how was I had been to Tokyo before I was.
It was fantastic. I got a tattoo, Well, I got a tattoo in Kyoto.
But Strawberry very nice, well done and I'm kind of a little bonus. How do you handle Tokyo, for instance, the language divide.
Ah, so many people speak English there, okay, And I will say they see me walking down the street, no one expects me to speak Japanese.
So it's quite you know, Japanese.
No, they don't expect me to so I'm fine, No one's no one's going to speak like rapid fire Japanese to me, whereas in Europe, I feel like frequently people will speak I.
Hope everyone's listening. These are really good tips, okay, and that one is it's okay. You could be a little nervous if you don't know the language, but be aware. A lot of people in other parts of the world do speak multiple languages, so a little.
Wit say that our country. It depends like you don't want to get too far, you don't want to get outside of Tokyo, and yes, start going to some.
Some coyoto ho Kyato for instance, I don't want to go there.
I'm just saying, like, you know, you don't want to be going to some hot spring hotels. I've found myself in certain situations where my lack of English definitely definitely hurts me.
I would also.
Say, are you doing on your Japanese, Greg, It's non existent.
I was gonna say, also, if you speak a little bit of a language, be prepared that people are going to speak to you like your fluent rapid fire the moment kind of little backfire situation could backfire on you a little bit.
All right, Number four.
Okay, this is where I stopped preparing. That's how we handle those book book tickets to like famous things, way ahead of time, so that you don't have to wait. Like if you wait in line to buy tickets for The Love, it'll take you an extra two hours and it's miserable and you don't want to do that, especially if it's summer, So don't do that. Also, crazy scorching hot take, I think The Love is overrated.
Whoa, whoa, it's beautiful.
I hate impression to start another hot take. But a beautiful museum and less crowded.
I'm going to go with anoid louve it all another hot take. Got it In terms of travel, to tell you know, with with maybe rare exceptions, don't wait for anything. Life's too short for just about anything. It's a huge city, you're not going to be able to see everything that they have, but there will be more to see. Don't bother if you invite there's a two hour wait.
In a similar but different context, if you invite me anywhere and it's like, oh, you got to wait on the line to get is, I'm not going, and you know kind of if you for inviting me to a place where I have to wait on the line. Finally, number five, Remember number four, do not go to the louver under any circumstances. Number five the final tip travel tip from Frags.
Don't ask for ice in foreign countries, not not because ice is bad anything like that, but because it is a very uniquely American ask like ice for your water. Why do you want ice for your water? This is a ridiculous American request.
I have because you know, Daddy likes to have a Tito's.
Okay, that's different.
That's on. But here's the thing.
When I go to London for our trips and I order one at the bar, there's like two like half melted ice cubes floating on top of my teetos. And I make my teitos and the tips I always give here's a little tip. There's a little behind the bar tip from old zeuser. This is how you make the drink. You fill it up with ice, then you do a five second poor that will take your ice down about halfway, but keep it icy, and then put your topper on and then you have a delicious, fizzy, icy, delicious cocktail.
Well all the but you're not gonna get that of London. We'll be listening to.
This, but I could use a drink. I gotta say bonus tip.
Don't drink tequila in London. Drink with the locals. Drink just you know, okay, drink soak in Japan, drink sojin Korea.
Drink water warm beer.
Drink warm beer in London, although they will tell you not all their beer is warm.
It is not many types.
That's a good. That's a good. That's the best piece of advice. Just eat what's the specialized with.
The yeah and get it, ladies and gentlemen. Alexander Frogle can I go yeah.
I apologize if we didn't warn you enough and if I made it uncomfortable in any way.
It's uh, this is the only thing I actually know.
About, so well, that's why we had you a honest you.
Guys want to talk about clothes. I got that covered.
That will be your next appearance on the show, Frags. Thank you very much. We will be back on I don't know, Monday. It sounds about right, you're back on Monday. Yeah, you could go, Frags. Great seeing you with another episode. We'll have the gang back together as we turned through the off season. Anything else, scregg before we say goodbye?
No, I think that's it.
I think.
I mean my own travel tip. Here's an underrated way to do it. Just don't have many plans at all. Just go just be in that city and sort of try to have it. You know, you don't have to see everything, but people are wired differently. But if you just sort of have a day where you're bouncing around and it's not all planned out, I feel like it works out better that way, less stressful.
All right.
You could add that as well to the notes, don't overplan, don't spend your whole time on like a tour bus.
I like it, all right, Good stuff, joy your weekend, Heed the call.