Around the NFL Podcast. It doesn't care too much about what others thing. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan hans As. I come to you from a virtual room field with some heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. You know, this was one of the great like shots of my career. Occurred um on Tuesday night doing my assignment, which I've been doing since two thousand twelve, writing Hard Knocks. You, Ricky, do you have the clip from Hard Knocks this week? I want
a lot more. That guy's gonna blow up this year, Mark my words, take him in your fantasy drafts. I'll go with a guy who has it. Um Ceedee Lamb. Yes, that was the old Zooster's voice talking about Ceedee Lamb. And it was a taken from the Around the NFL broadcast, And it was Mark in the shot and Connie in the shot and Greg not in the shot. So let's just break it down there. Um, very cool that a t N made Hard Knocks. That felt like a real
career achievement. Greg. I do feel bad about the timing of it because you're not someone who takes a lot of vacation. That was that is that one show. Yeh never will never will visit my parents again. Um, that half of that second on Hard Knocks. I think it'll It's just the first of many though. Um you you you know, I think it's great. So you know you you got the you got the big talk, you got the voke, you know you got the words out there. That's the big spot. So next time we'll be back
on that again. I don't want to be like the like, Um, I saw someone in your mentions very upset like they were not it. That's a bad that's a bad look. Who is someone just a street person on? Someone else? No, within our company on the talent side. Because Patrick claiban another friend of the show, had we got a camera. Not only did Claibron get um on the show, he was actually because he was on the scene at camp and they had the tight shot on Claibroon's beautiful face.
I mean, the guy, handsome man. It's almost annoying how good looking Patrick is in addition to nice and smart and good at his job. But I'm in the weeds awesome the clay Bonn. Is there someone else at the company that works with the company that was at that camp has yet to get on the show. I have to ask you. Let's get Jane on the show. Get Jane's later on the show Hard Knocks producers. I mean, we we're gonna bring it up. It's true, she's been
covering them. You want if you're if you're covering them, you you're looking for that shot where you like asked the question at the press. Let's get Jane on too. Well, we'll ask her like how mad she actually is? I want to find that out. What's that? Mark? Well? No, I was just gonna say, let you know, you have been extremely pro Hard Knocks. Um. I have been, if anything, milk toast in my reaction to Hard Knocks from its inception.
What if they had grabbed a sound bite where I happened to be saying something about ceedee lamb, with you sitting there and not saying a word, what would have happened to? What would what would how would would we have handled that? I think I would have been talking about this right now. It would be would show It would be like when the NFL network did a commercial of Around the NFL and Dan didn't have a speaking line in that commercial and he immediately complained about it.
I never complained to anyone outside of you guys, but that wasn't believed. Well, suddenly there was a new ad like a fortnight later, so it's maybe it was just mystical powers. But I will say this, Mark, how does it? That had to be a bit bitter sweet for you because it is the show you hate more than any other show in the world. So if you're face to be on it had to be something like, it's cool that I'm out there, but I also I hate this
show so much. Number one, I don't hate it, but my dislike for it certainly lessons when they're featuring me on it. I'm cozying up to it. Um, I'm going to watch it again. It's product. Maybe they're listening to this podcast and they're like, we know how to get Sessler smart. You know, let's go Rams, invite me to some games, bring me into your luxury suitets. You know, everything will start to change. Um coming up. So that was cool though, that was very cool. You know what
else is called Connor Or that's our buddy. He hasn't been on the show in a minute. He will be on the on the show today when we uh unveil Team slogans for the two thousand one seasons season. So that's gonna be a lot of fun. But before that, let's do some news. I have a big legal file full of newspaper articles of why I was breaking up with the Cincinnati Bengals about ten or fifteen years ago. Broke up with a team. Yeah, well, I feel like they kind of left me at the altar and gave
me no choice. If they're not gonna love me, why would I love him back? Don't want to be Charlie Brown. Yeah, I'm not gonna be like Charlie Brown. Oh man, it's so good to hear West's voice. Uh. And that, of course ties back to the major development earlier this week when you told the story about Chris Westling's divorcing the Bengals dossier that Lakisha rescued out of a trash been at NFL network headquarters. Uh last week, And yes, we wondered. We talked about it on the show, Greg, like, when
did we even start talking about the dossier? We brought it up for the first time and forever last week and it ended up being a faithful reference. But way back it was indeed the first year of the show in two thousand thirteen. Yeah, one of our listeners pointed out it should have been around October. He found a tweet of years and uh, we'll have a nice little a nice little ending to our show here. Our listeners can can wait for a little call back there, I
would saying. I said to Erica, Uh, yesterday, it was just so nice to hear Wes's voice. I don't think we've played his voice on the show since, uh, since he passed. So I'm sure the listeners enjoyed that as well. And as Greg said, we'll play a little bit of a longer clip of West talking about his dossier at the end of today's show. All right, let's get to the news. Um, let's start with some crushing injury news from my beloved New York Jets. It surrounds Carl Lawson.
Unblockable in training camp, in other organized team activities. He seemed to be the guy that was going to break yes that streak. The Jets have not had a big time premiere pass rusher since John Abraham left in two thousand six, and Lawson was gonna be that guy and be the key for Robert Salo's defense. Well, I don't think so anymore because Lawson, during a joint practice with the Green Bay Packers, heard of pop in as Achilles carded off the field. We're waiting as the as we
record this for the results of that. Mr. I, but it does not sound good. So Blossom signs of three or forty five million dollar contract in free agency, and it looks like his first year with the Jets might not ever get off the ground, and I am dead inside summer. I mean, you look at like I don't want to be around anymore. It is because I don't know like I love this signing when it happened. I loved everything I heard about him this uh training camp
and off season. I thought he was undervalued as much money as they paid him. I thought it was going to be one of those free agent deals that ends up being even better than you think. As we're taping this, as you mentioned Dan, we are still waiting for final word. Usually these things don't go well when they think it's going in a certain direction. I tried to ask around, and I think there was some question whether there could be a better scenario than than the worst case. But
we'll see. And it's a killer for them because I think they need that defensive line to make up for the secondary. It's him specifically, right your your coverage is gonna be as good, I think as your front end or vice versa. And we know the back end of the Jets defense has problems, so they needed the front line to make up for it. And and if Lawson is out for the year, that that's gonna be a lot tougher. When you get Joe Douglas credit because he put a lot of money into loss and to solve
that eternal pass rushing void. But he's put a lot of money into c. J. Mosley too. There's been terrible luck with these big name players that they've brought in to alter their defense. And you know when they talk about Achilles a lot of times, like you know, I saw a tweet from someone who is an on field trainer that says, you know right away you'll go get the m R. I but yeah, just you just you know, And so I imagine they do. And it's you know, I know that you have to do these practices, we
have to do these preseason games. But I start more and more to side with these coaches that just keep their star players out of as much action as possible. It's tougher for the Jets. They're learning a new scheme. You know, Lawson is in a new scheme, Canice. I'm
not saying that. I just the one thing that I find annoying for specifically like a hard, hard bitten Jets fan base, is that you're sort of waiting around four killer news to arrive before week one, and it just seems like every couple of days there's one of these and you know, yes, you have to practice. But last year there was a lot less of this and it was fine. Sheldon Rankins was carted off too, but there
wasn't less injuries. In fact, I hate I don't want to spit in the sky, as your mom would say, dan Um, But I was thinking how this training camp has been thankfully devoid of a lot of major injuries. So was the first week of the preseason, and I I am a little more of the school in terms of even playing preseason players like the Patriots and some
other teams do that. It's like it's fun. Ultimately, you have to play football to like play football, and whether it happens now or in Week one or Week three, like it, it's terrible for the the team and for the player, and there's there's no way to avoid it.
I do think there's there's something to the fact of like the way the players trained and how muscular and big they are now, maybe that does lead to more of these types of injuries then used to happen in the seventies and eighties, which if you go look at the numbers that you really there really are. But that's that's something you can't avoid. I don't know what you do about that. Um No, it's it's not fun being
a Jets fan. And I'm not going to turn this into a pity party, but it's Sheldon Rankins was also carted off today too, and he's a guy with an injury history who they're hoping to start. Uh it didn't sound as serious, but he did have a pretty serious, possibly serious injury. I just I don't know, man, It's just like sometimes it just makes you wonder. It's it's just how does it always happen to the Jets? And and he did. And Joe Douglas was not responsible responsible
for the C. J. Mosley signing. That was Mike mccagnet. But it was the same deal where Mike H C J. Mosley signed this big contract, came over from the Ravens, was the star of training camp, was absolutely dominant in his first game in Week one, and then popped his groin and missed the entire year with it, and then opted out last year and it's just been like okay, So that didn't work lost in the same thing, dominant
throughout training camp for him now to go it. Every Jet fan knows that you're the ceiling on your season, which already wasn't high, necessarily just went down um significantly because he was kind of the janga piece of everything Solids trying to do, and they'll be trying to play catch up all year as a result. So I just curious to see Mosley. By the way, we haven't mentioned c. J. Mosley in a long time. I am curious to see
him this year. This was one of one of the best inside linebackers in the league at one point, and he will be playing on this Jets team, so I am curious that he could give them a little bit of a boost there. One star of the Jets pass that I also didn't work out as Jamal Adams. He has now signed a new contract with the Seattle Seahawks.
This went down a little earlier in the week. It's four years, seventy million dollars, very good money for Adams, who uh is now, as expected, the highest paid safety UM in the NFL. UM and it is not I guess it's not at the level money wise as the true superstars UM might get. But that's I guess a product of his position and it doesn't really matter. Ultimately, the Seahawks needed to get this guy back on the field, and now he's there and he's paid and they can
go forward. Like there's like a lot of negative reaction to this, uh that you know, I get that Jamal Adams um is a little ponderous and you know, seems to always be talking about money, but that's also like
ninety percent of the players in my book. But he's getting paid less than Darius Leonard, as we mentioned on our network show, who got twenty million a year, and like everyone glowed over that year that deal and looks at the Cults front office is forward thinking And yes, I get the Seahawks were kind of jammed into this. That's the part I don't like is that they kind of just got stuck into this thing where let's say
he had declined last year. I think they still would have been kind of hamstrung to overpay him, but he made a big difference on the field last year. It's like, this is a great player if he's put in the right position. I don't hate the contract. It's not that much money for someone who could be the center of their defense. Safeties are underpaid. I thought they had a good, team friendly contract. If you really look at the true guarantees,
it's closer to twenty million. I mean, it's actually almost shocking how little it is compared to some of the tackles that signed, like Nate Soldier had a much better contract than Jamal Adams signing with the Giants years ago. Uh, safeties just do not get paid. There's a lot of good safeties who are about to become free agent, Tyrone, Matthew, Jesse, Bates, Harrison Smith, Marcus Made and they're gonna all slot in probably under Jamal Adams. So I think it's a good bargain.
He's a unique player who I think has a coaching staff too, who will know how to use him and kind of max him out the next few years. And other injury news, bad injury news, no injury news is
good injury news. Tevin Jenkins, the second round draft pick of the Chicago Bears, who slated to be there starting left tackle, well, he has probably done for the year after lingering back issues have now led to back surgery, and the Bears hope to have him back this season, but that could be overly optimistic, and now the team is scrambling UH to find a replacement. Jason Peters, the long time and I say long time tackle of the Eagles who was on the street turning forty in January.
He has been added to the roster as a potential UH fill in, But the Bears will be scrambling now, especially after deciding not to bring back Charles Leno, the incumbent tackle of a year ago. Bad news for Chicago. They cut Leno, who played every snap practically the last handful of years at a solid enough level and he was at a below market contract. It didn't make sense of the time we first guessed that one, Like I we talked about that, like why are why are they
cutting Charles Leno? Exactly like you want to have an extra tackle, and a lot of times after the draft you slot in these rookies just like Okay, that bombs set. Uh, you know, there's our second round pick left tackle solved. It's like it doesn't aid that he might not play that well and then be something like this could happen, and it felt like an unforced there considering the other guys that they're paying a lot of money, like Jimmy
Graham on this roster. Fine with you, it's like you definitely, I think you need to see tackles over the course of their at least their first season to get a really good picture of who they are. And this was a player with known back issues. They trade up for him, the back issues of a different variety. Now um show up. I get super concerning, like, yeah, he probably won't play this year, but in general, like back issues for a tackle, um don't. And you know that's not something that's gonna
just fade away in five minutes. Like the Bears have done some very questionable things. I think justin Fields helped them out hugely from a Q rating angle, But that front office is lucky to still be around. I wonder if this makes them more worried about playing fields or you could say less because you want them all quarterback at some point. I mean it shouldn't really have an impact. But you know, if I'm a Justin Fields fan, I'm a little concerned about it. I'd always be more worried
about playing Andy Dalton. But I hear you and happy trails to Tim Tebow cut loose by the Jacksonville Jaguars. So that was a thing and now it's no longer a thing. And also Josh Rosen, the former number ten overall pick a couple of years back, who was not playing well with the forty niners and couldn't even win the third string backup jobs. So two former first round pick picks head into the sunset. That is what's happening in the news. Hey you guys, um, I actually have
little Jordan Humphrey like on the line. He's like here, what little Jay little day in the house. Okay, joking, No, like right now, I'm gonna put him in, Okay, Oh Ricky, look at you, Ricky. Al right here we go. Wow, this is exciting, excellent work. Ricky now joining us the new Orleans Saints wide receiver, former Texas Star wide receiver, and now he's looking to make a big impact in the NFL. Little Jordan Humphrey, welcome to the Around the
NFL podcast. Hey, thanks for having me, Thanks for having Okay, So alright, so this podcast is stupid sometimes and we we fall down these wormholes that we struggle to dig out of. And um as as you see perhaps right now, um, I'm Dan, that's Mark, that's Greg. Those are three of the most boring white guy names and imaginable. And then there's a little Jordan Humphrey, who to me has the best name in the NFL going right now, and did the research? Your mom gave it to you. Correct me
if I'm wrong. Your mom gave you the name. It's not a nickname, it's a full name because your older brother said, name him Michael Jordan's and your mom was like, well, let's slow down to pump the brakes on an MJ situation. Little Jordan it is? Is that all check out? Or is Wikipedia failing me? That's correct? That's correct? All right? Cool? So, like, do you go by little Jordan's? What are your teammates call you? I'm just out of here, it's start there.
I mean I go by Little Jordan LJ. Most people call me LJ because you know it just I get the question all the time. That's your real name, that's your real name, everything nickname. But I just go by LJ to keep it short and simple, you know. But yeah, a little jordin real name. I love to go by that, but I just keep it, you know what I mean? Normal?
Do you run into trouble? Let's say, if you were, like you know, applying for like a lease car, or maybe if you at some point we're looking to get a job and had to write little Jordans in like the very official boxed piece of paper. Are they saying what's going on here with us? I mean, luckily I haven't had to like fill out any job applications for the you know what I mean, and deal with that. But other than that, like I run into any problem, I just look at it. I showed my I D
you know, and just it's an easy process. Uh. But I was on his I das it's got to be for an. I mean, you could you could take it two ways, like you your name is a little Jordan Humphrey. You gotta carry that on your shoulders, you know, like you could either back down or you could become like a U T legend and and be making this saint game. So it might it must have given you something to live up to. Fact you did it definitely did. I mean, I guess it's just that mother interversion, you know what
I mean, she thinks she saw something special. I mean when she had so you know, so said your mom start to get worried when you kept growing, because this is the thing that's really been tripping me up, the six foot four things. And it's like everybody wants to be tall. Every guy wants to be tall. We don't all get to be taking. To speak for yourself, I'm loving five five. Look at my happy life, beautiful wife,
like great career. It it suits me. Greg. Greg always wanted to be five and a half feet tall, but everybody else wants to do six more and you are so at any point, did it ever cross your mind? Um, maybe I need to make a modification here. And again it's a little tricky because it's not a nickname, it's birth name and it's from your mom. But once you go five eleven six one, did it never cross your mind? Maybe it's time to mix it up? Or did you like the kind of the yin and yang of it all?
I mean I never really thought about like that. Um, I mean, but I was like, it's my name, So I'm never gonna you know what I mean. Uh, It's just I don't know. Yeah, I just never thought about it like that. We're so stupid, Like that's the thing, Like why can't we just focus on the Saints wide receiver battle? Why do we keep getting hung up on the name and so any any adjustments like large large
Jordan Humphrey or not so little Jordan Humphrey. There's also one what if it was kept little Jordan Humphrey open parenthetical? Who's actually six ft four? Closed parenthetical? No, alright, no reality, just a name, you know what I mean. Just it's a little different at um hopefully you know what I'm saying. I can, I do, I do enough just like it becomes a normal thing, you know what I mean. So yeah, I know, I'm sorry we're dwelling on it. I I
I'm gonna try to move on. I am actually curious, um little Jordan's lj um about this Saints wide receiver room. It's kind of a weird, at least from our perspective with the Saints right now. It's kind of a an unusual offseason and that there are so many question marks when they've been so locked and loaded the last few years, and one thing that stands out is, Um, you are an undrafted UH player. There are seven of you, I believe that are fighting for big time reps UH in
that wide receiver room. Everybody knows Michael Thomas and that he's dealing with the ankle surgery. But there seems to be a real opportunity here for you to really make an impact in your third season here. Yeah, I mean, um, it's a great opportunity. Honestly, I'm just trying to see the and just like going out there working every day, competing and hopefully, you know, I'll find a spot on his team in the squad. Right that you enter such a crazy situation, you know, you you get to be
there for the last year of Drew Brees. Now it's like a you know, different quarterback room. A though Jamis Winston and Taysom Hill were there before, but now they're battling for the leads about what I just got to be curious, as a long time believer in Jamis Winston, what is that guy like UH in the locker room, like as your quarterback, as one of the as one of the leaders on this team. Now, I mean, great guy. Um,
you know somebody you can talk to about anything. Um, he's gonna he's gonna lead you in the right direction. He's also gonna have fun with us. So I mean, he's a guy that you want to as a quarterback and say with tastom like, I don't know, it's gonna be a hard decision for Coast to make that, you know what I mean? So what if what if Jamis tries to eat the w again in the pregame huddle? Like, would he lose the team if he did it? Or would people like that? Oh cool, callback man, we're in
on it where we're doing. I doubt he lose a team. You know, it's just him, you know what I mean. He's different about how he proach things and you can't knock him forward because he brings the energy when he does the way he does these things. So um, I mean I doubt. I doubt did he lose the team energy? Bringing food was losing people up and stuff. So yeah, I know also in Texas that you, um, you were a poet. You wrote a couple of um poems that when I would call viral semi viral. Uh, what kind
of poem. Will the Saints right this season in your mind? That's a good question. Mark, whoa what kind of poem? Uh? Hopefully a great one? Honestly, Um, I feel like we got the tools to do to have a great season. We just gotta you know what I mean, keep working, trying to get better than this training camp and you know, just leave just trust and coaches playing. Uh, the coaches playing and executed at the best of our abilities. And I think it would be fine. What was your poetry style?
Because I know Mark must must have done this. Reach just saw that and felt the kinship. He is definitely the poet. He he would love to go viral with the poem. It hasn't quite happened for him yet, Like how did he not? I couldn't tell you the poem style. Um, it's been a minute. I think I wrote it with um. But I'd just like to write sometimes, you know, uh, just get my get my mind on some clear my mind on the paper. So yeah, I don't have a
specific style. Let's say that. Well, little Jordan, thank you for joining us, and I would like to make an announcement for anyone listening. Now that we have asked the line of questioning about his name moratorium. No one asks l J about his name any longer. Is what it is, He's not changing it and pretty he loves his mom. Get off his back, Let it start on the photball, Uh, l J. Humphrey, a little Jordan, Thank you, buddy, and
the best of luck this season. Good luck, thank you, thank you, appreciate you, look at you through with the fucking there he goes a little Jordan's l J and Erica. Perhaps to Erica, I was kind of joking, to be quite honest with you when I said, let's get little Jordan Humphrey on the show. And then he shows up and you roll with the punches. That was fun. Yeah. Thanks the email I had to send a booking for like why we wanted it was like, um if like
we were joking too for a chunk of it. But he was a good sport wanting five questions into the name origin. Um he probably figured out we weren't going to go in too many other directions with him. Yes, he was indeed a good sports. Speaking of good sports, we have another guest now and he is uh the honorary mayor of my not South Dakota, North Dakota South Dakota, North Dakota. Maybe he could help us out. And he is a longtime friend of the show, former colleague. Let's
welcome him back. He's in the best shape of his life. Connor or welcome back to uh the Run the NFL podcast. What's up, buddy? And is it North or South Dakota? I know you know my not North Dakota. Right, you don't know either? You're then you are the mayor in waiting? What how would you It's it's North Dakota. You know what? I have like that inability to you can convince me
of anything. And so like when Danet expressed doubt at the beginning, I was like, like, I have the frisbee sitting right behind me that I think says North Dakota on it, and uh, you know, but I don't even know what I typed in my naughty North Dakota. What are you? Can you spend a whole different place? Predated Ricky. I guess she wasn't paying attention to it. There's a solid like scent of our listenership that's probably not familiar
with my not. But it's like one of the most important cities in the country is a city in North Dakota, and Um, for those not in the know, Connor once built a Madden franchise or is it a college football franchise whatever it was for e A Sports his video games that he loves so much, and UM talked about it on the show. And then My Not got all hot in the pants and sent a bunch of swag to us, and I think they gave Connor the key
to the city. It got pretty wild. The key to the city never showed up, and uh it led to like this long festering conspiracy that UM like. I think at the time, I was mad at Greg and I just thought he was keeping it and not giving it to me, and so like for a long time, I was just like, God, this guy is just like, you know, plays dirty thing to suggest, nothing, nothing to st Alright, Greg, this is the chance to take it out and make make the wrong right. Yeah, I do remember that that
time that Connor was was mad at me. Um. During his entire employment at the NFL was good Greg manager face so many exciting times. But Connor, Um, forget about My Not, but not forget about it. It's part of the show's history. We will love My Not. But let's knows spen forward. What is up with you, buddy? How you doing? What's going on? Are you? Are you? Are you professionally fulfilled? Are you personally fulfilled? Take us through it all? Everything is Everything's great, you know. Uh, Sports
Illustrated is great. The football preview issue hits stands in a week from now, which I think everybody should, uh should go by in our The mm QB podcast is a lot of fun. Uh and we've we've gotten a lot of crossover listeners, which has been awesome. Like we've we've gotten emails from a lot of people from a t N that have bounced over there and uh, and so that's been really cool. Hopefully we haven't lost them. You're saying that they're listening to both. You haven't told them.
I've made them all sign agreements saying that they'll only listen to one podcast, which happened. So wait, that's you, Jenny is Brier involved with this. It's me Jenny and our our senior editor, Gary Grahamlin. It's makes up the MMQB podcast. I think uh Albert has a show, a YouTube show now, so it's trying to appeal to the kids. Yeah, so let me ask you this before we get into it, because funds say we're gonna come up with team slogans
um heading into season with Connor's help. But to me, at least if you're in our age range and Connor you're younger, but you're still I think fit under this. When you were going through J school and you had your dreams of being a big um sports writer, the holy grail was are you writing the cover story the Gamer for the Super Bowl? For s I? Is that a possibility for Connor? Or as we kind of look forward? Maybe I don't know about this year, but maybe in
the next five years. Do you think you're on a path where you might write the Sports Illustrated Gamer for the Super Bowl? UM? Is it? I would say this, Uh, the two people who do it now, Greg Bishop and Jenny Francis are both very young and very incredible, and the work that they've put into that um is is staggering. And so I would say that, like I would jump at the chance to to do it one day, But I don't know where I fall in the line, you
know what I mean? Like you have to you have to be born in the right royal birth order, and uh, I seem to have gotten wedged in there, but I will I will say I've gotten to help a couple of times, like and contribute some stuff, which which was very cool. And uh yeah, I mean just the amount of work that they do on that is is staggering. I mean, Jen Jenny is sort of a mentor to you Connor story, it would be you kind of having to take your mentor and throw her under the bus
to get the assignment, which is dirty, right. I think they're both young and and trusting. I know them both a little bit, so I think they'd be susceptible to foul play the same. The thought is on the rust, Yeah, I mean the thought to to sort of you know, Frank Underwood. The whole thing has occurred to me. Um, and it's just something that I'm keeping in my back pocket. I've I've lived the first half of my life is sort of a a sort of a quiet guy. But
that that exists inside all of us somewhere. That's Greg, our former manager, scouted who is vulnerable, who could be manipulated? Let's get into it. Do you have the key to the city? Greg? What about the producer that does she have it? That was Yeah, I think she was gone. She was gone by then. What did they promise you was key to the city and say they said it was mailed to Culver City. Um, and it was never
forwarded to me. The only reason I think I got some of the other stuff that was sent to me is I happened to be in the office on like that one time a year I would show up to resign my contract when a giant that giant box came and uh like, I got like tank tops, I got a cuzy, I got pens, I got a Frisbee that was behind me, and uh like pretzels, uh like vanilla icing pretzels, which were just ridiculously good. Just to let you know our mail room, Um, there are there are
anecdotes of our mail room, Daniels. A couple of stories where they have hardcore flagged packages that have arrived and they've never really gotten to They've been careers, they've never maybe they saw you know what, who is this this NFL scribe receiving a giant gold or silver key. Um, we're sending this straight to your higher boss above Greg who no longer is with the company that also checks out. Yeah, let's get to it. Team slogans for Connor. Um, we're
gonna go through them. We're gonna just kind of cycle through teams. And if you this is I sent the text to the boys yesterday and I laid it out like this, you could have one slogan five twelve thirty two and we're just gonna rip through the teams. And when you have a slogan, let me know. Okay, and we'll do it that way. And let's start in the a f C East with the Buffalo Bills. I'll get us going. Uh. Cole Beasley does not represent the views
of the Buffalo Bills, ownership or related properties. Solid they're they're like over, that's long. That's long for a slogan. But I did notice, you know, they're they're left tackle Dion Dawkins, who Um was in the hospital with COVID. He was partially vaccinated, maybe the highest paid player on their team other than Josh Allen, I think, and you know, one of their best players. And said he not to
take go too serious, but he was worried he might die. UM. And so they asked him about Cole Beasley and and and it's a it's a tricky thing. And he he was he was he played it pretty cool. He's like, you know, I respect anyone wants to have their own wishes, but I am so thankful that I was partially vaccinated or I might have died. You wonder if these things in between. He got the job at the start of training camp, like a lot of players did once they sort of were compelled to uh and got COVID days
later or almost like immediately later. I feel like the JAB thing has become very commonplace now and I don't like that. Does anybody else not like that? And they say, like, you got the jab? It's literally the first time I've ever said that. And even as I was saying, I was like, I'm not going to say that ever again. It's in headlines now. It's like Falcons didn't serious there. But that felt like a weird, wild story like that.
There are two of your biggest leaders on your offense, like you do wonder what kind of conversations happened in cases like that, because they all had to be pretty worried that Dion Dawkins is laid up in a hospital, worried that he might die. A mere thirty one teams to get through Up next, the New England Patriots, anybody got one? Did not do? We're flying right now. I don't know why would we go through all thirty two teams? I thought, you know, when one shows up, it's a
beautiful treat. I was shopping one that I that I tossed out that I could just throw out there just like now back to like now featuring the original recipe, or like now back to the original recipe or something like that. Good, you know, because it's like now they are once again like a boring, plotting offense with like a like a quarterback who does nothing but released the ball in time, and you know, and everybody seems to
love it. You know. My mine would be more, yeah, like something directed towards the fans, just from the team just being like saying, don't cheer too loud when we bench cam. Everyone thinks we're racist. So that would be my slogan, like, yeah, mine is kind of the voice of the fans. Mac Jones, that's more like it. All right, Dolphins, anybody Dolphins? I got double d o C s Oh, he's a g C. Little Johnson Zalis Inside Baseball Call
the American Sports It was married broadcaster Colley Wolf. John was a Piece's resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. G See Good Call John Gonzalez, Colleen's husband, has been trying to get that off the ground for about, oh, I don't know, fifteen years. In our circle, it's it's gotten off the ground. Um up next the New York Jets. I have one for the Jets. Once you go Zack, you never go back. After today. I kind of feel like it could be like, oh man, it's happening again.
Stop that. That's tough day. I don't really I can't
believe it. Yeah, I think I don't know what the slogan is, but I do like here in New York, like it's happening right before our eyes where they're positing there, they're they're juxtaposing Robert Sala and Joe Judge, and like Robert sale is like this wonderfully calm, zen human and then Joe Judges like screaming at everybody, um and yelling at everybody, and he has not back down from that at all, and he's like, yeah, I don't yell at my players, and and that has kind of continued and
it has been sort of the best. So like the slogan would almost be like best head coaching fight since like Rex and Tom Coughlin, you know where it's like we used to have that fun dynamic where it was like polar opposites and I feel like we're back there again, which or just like look at Big Blue, you know if if nothing else, I think they are the team
you want to be right now in New York. The Jets, Yeah, I mean, I'm still so brokenhearted about the Carl lass in development here, but uh, I think as a Jets Van I don't want to be around. Just stay on the on the positive side of things. And um, I'll go with this for their slogan, the New York Jets, A boy will lead them. Think it's like the music my aunt listens to. It's like the start of a long journey. He's a We've talked about him appearing to be a small not small because he's not small, but
just a boy. I like it because it's like the beginning of a long adventure. You don't have to get to the end, you don't have to get to the Lord of the Ring. Yet this is like the start of nine hours straight. I mean, a lot of boys are very disorganized. They're still figuring things out. So I hope that when you say boy, that you're not looking for the pure traits of a person who's not an
adult to lead a franchise. Like there's you. You get it, Mark, you have some biblical knowledge, I mean a young child will lead them. That we're looking at him as a christlike figure more than ever now that uh, what's happening on the other side of the football. I mean, this comes a week after you compared this to your Sam Donald fetish and said I'm not going down this road again. I'm more philosophical this time, and now you've compared them to I am. I am trying to take a step back,
especially after the news of today. I am again fully aware of the curse that my organization is still dealing with after the Joe Namath Super Bowl, Like I'm still I understand that. So I'm trying to take a step back. But the organization, they need to get behind the young kid now more than ever. The a f C North, how about your Cleveland Browns, Mark, I didn't do one for them, all right, anybody else? All Right? I knew we were going if I knew the format was going
through all thirty two teams yeah, I feel grossly unprepared. Now, I think it's fine that some get no attention. They're still working on. How about for the Browns, do you trust us? Yeah? I like that. I don't know. Yeah, I think that's where they're don't trust us, Yes, but the Bengals could just be checked the dossier. I have one for the Angles two. It's a little bit more of an in house slogan to everyone who works there.
It says, please line up at the machine in the corner over there to punch your time cards each day at five pm. Paychecks will be direct deposited or mailed in paper form on Friday's at eleven am. Just check the box. Just do you get that information out? It's it's like that's internal information, but it's also in case they miss like an email. If it's on like the media guide, Uh, we'll probably see it there. Who else? I just went with it's football because, like you know,
it's very like straightforward and legal. Um, because like you're not promising anybody anything, um. And theoretically the product that you're putting out there is football stadiums downtown. I didn't realize like how much the stadium is very just downtown and walkable until being in Cincinnati this time, it's just like, hey, what a great thing. Good about that Sinnatti Bengals. The stadium is downtown. Why not you know for Steelers I had, We're still here. Mark that a lot mine is mine
is similar? Um, But it's if you thought our fans were knocked just before, just wait until the seven Revenge tour. It's not wrongly just edit out the word revenge there upon reading it. Um, all right. For the Ravens I had preseason is the reason for the season, and uh, the Ravens are writing. Well, Actually, we actually have a trailer um that I wanted to debut on the show for the Baltimore Ravens because this podcast is very exciting.
In a world where exhibition football was mocked, diminished, and marginalized, one team had the guts to take a stand. Five years, eighteen victories, big rush, common ecturely throws, touchdown, zero defeats. You know from intersected, the Baltimore Ravens simply won't lose means a lot. I mean it means, you know, whether it's a winning streak or just the idea of how
you approach the games. I think it's your credit to the players in terms of corporation and coaches over the years, in terms of the we run a good training camp and off season program, and guys are ready to play, you know, good fundamental football and that's what wins when it's preseason season or whatever it might be. So this August, the hay is in the barn of that summer school is in session, makes the catches, he in bound touchdown for shop and the Baltimore Ravens are going streaking in
the quad. Can they be beat? The No Fun Way coming soon to a theater near you? So long streaking in the Quad? They better not go one and two now, I mean shout out. That is amazing production work by every great great voice, and great job I Rick Gosselin for pointing out the eighteen game winning streak, because I don't think anyone even knows other than him. You know how relieved John Harbab was when somebody brought it up, Like he was just like, oh, thank god, okay, let
me talk. Yeah, my slogan, um, We're not just crab cakes and cal Ripken anymore, doesn't feel as like meaningful if they're hearing that video that was Jason Zumwalt, of course, on the voice over talent AFC South. Let's see, I got Texan c Yeah, I have a Texans one. Okay. Um, it's the main slogan that you would see all around the stadium is called ride the multicolored turtle from Sheba with an exclamation mark, and it's like, okay, so what
does that mean? But in the small type, um, it says every fan ages three and up receives a tab of LSD with their game day ticket. Place said tab undertongue during the national anthem one in sixteen becomes a gorgeous rainbow. We respect you. Yeah, just imagine the billboard there, it's going all around the stadium. I love it. I
do like the instructional nature of your slogans. Mark. I'm not very good at slogan, So I've got I've got some Texans related one which is just um, the Jacksonville Jaguars were not the Texans, like that would be like a big hit. And then the Texans one slogan, which is just stop asking, right, just stop asking? Loan Deshaun Watson's lack of awareness was outrageous when he kind of barked in a cameraman that was training the lens on him as he's walking off the practice field last week.
It's like the same thing every day. What like upset that you're being put on camera? Dude, you you're kind of a story whether you want to be or not. Facing this. By the way, UM doing like incredible work.
I am thankful for her. I'm thankful for copies like Sports Illustrated that don't have television deals, you know with the NFL, that are able to do this sort of reporting because we we get a lot of grief and we've talked about this, you know, Deshaun Watson quite a bit, I think, but I think the NFL media gets a lot of um understandable and needed grief for how like
we've handled Deshaun Watson. But it's like esp if you have noticed ESPN Pro Football talk with NBC, like everyone who are also employees of the NFL because they're getting paid by the NFL because their partners, their coverage is just as um regrettable, I would say, would be my word,
like it's it's a tough one. Yeah on my radar for for the slogan like so I at first I imagined like you know, what the Texans need to do is lean into what they are beyond, you know, kind of the tire fire that's engulf the organization, which is like they just have this hilarious old man as a head coach and who's just comically lost, and like I would drape on the sides of the stadium like these large, like powerful pictures of him, like almost like Stalin in Russia,
you know what I mean. And then like and then just Sean Payton in in the year he was spending propaganda. Do we get beeps on this? Can I? Can? I say? Yeah? So it'd be like, you know, it's like it's Cully time, you know, like really like you know, like everything's got to be like Cully, you know, like it just like really bang the people over the head with it. You know,
you gotta put the focus somewhere. If your management trying to get the fan base excited building around Grandpa CALLI all right, a f C. West Um for the Chargers. And this is like my mom's old thing where she says, uh, if you say something you don't want to happen, don't spit in the skoy well about charges? What could possibly go wrong? Are they confidence like we feel kind. It has been a pretty quiet month, um, which gets which gets to my Charger slogan too, which is just have
you seen justin Herbert? That's all just like that's like an actual slogan they could use on a billboard here, like ramps have a dustin her? Like have you seen dustin her? But this is amazing. We looked into this guy, what about don't make your season ticket package a business decision? Actually go to the games? I had see I went in a different direction there I had for the Chargers. You had me at hello, because is have you listened to Brandon Staley talk like this, thank you most engaging
human on planet Earth? Like it's, um, what's the line from super Bad? It's like the first time I heard the Beatles watching their little um watching their little snippet of and I'm granted, I'm I'm like, I'm the target audience there. I just melt into a puddle. Every time I hear like rapid fire coach talking you and Mark he is right there, We're on. We're two pieces in
a pod with Staley and I'm with you. He sold me on like that first round of pressors that he did I was like, you know, listening to a beautiful nerd M And I don't mean like a bad version of a nerd, like the good aspects of a nerd. On Sundays, you can literally run across from the office. I realized, like, I guess we should have known this, but like the entrance is literally like a hundred feet
away from our office. You could just run over in the middle and watch your boy Brandon Stalely sounds chaotic. I don't know if you could get in there. They'll have a By the time we actually get there, I'm sure they'll have a seventh ft wall with barbed wire. There's there of all. But you know, you get there. Oh do you, sir? Do you have a hundred and seventy five dollars to enter the stadium? Um? I got
the Chiefs in this division. To my chief slogan is be grateful for our existence, just like I have some gratitude. Chiefs fans. You haven't had of playoff win in what twenty plus years before Mahomes. This is the best part. It's like why I always say Week one is the best week of the NFL season because you got the most ahead of you. It's like this is still the best part of the Mahomes experience. You're in year four, You've already got a super Bowl in your pocket, you
went to another, like everything is ahead of you. Just be grateful. A lack of gratitude, Like I was gonna say it was at first, I said, fair point. I said, what what evidence is Greg have that the Chiefs fan base isn't just a good reminder as these as the years. Maybe I'm projecting Coltriots fan like they the Patriots fans still high all that gratitude going into two thousand four. I would say like that was the time where it started stacking these years. Yeah, it really turned into obnoxious
fan behavior right around. All right, um, let's move to well I have for the Raiders if we think it's Mayox fault or maybe the QBS over in the desert. All right, NFC, we're you got another one missing the Denver Broncos. Right what you got? Uh? You have to say it in the right voice that kind of been practicing it a little bit. Um, it's kind of like football like Mom used to make you know, like it has to be like in a really like Italian voice.
And I think the reason that I like it is because they're they're coach is an old Italian man from Scranton, and like he's built this like dream vision of a team that like an elderly man from Scranton would build, like this unstoppable defense, a running game, a great offensive line, and perhaps the quarterback. We don't know, like there might not be one, but uh you know, in in that way, it's sort of like if I'm going out, I'm going out exactly how you know I would my my ninety
year old high school football coach come out hunters. The slogans all sound like like slogans, like they've been tested, like like that he scored well with the fans and focus groups. I love it. Yeah, you know, so that's why I didn't do a lot of them. But you know the work that went into this. You know, you're hitting, you're hitting exactly. You only play against um lefty pitchers, but you mash your ops is through the roof in your platoon role. UM in the NFC started the East
for the Washington football team. We can't have a slogan until we have a name. That's That's where I'm coming from. I know I'm not uh probably being out number three to one on it's so cool. Well that's why that's why my my slogan would be more leaning into it, which is more that we are the football team, Like that's pretty they're the ones that's pretty good. Well, they're the list of the all the names they're considering. Um, I'm not a fan of almost any of them at all.
Like I would stick with football team like the rest of the division. They're not changing the name I'm i I would I would put a sandwich on it. That's kind of we are the football team. Because I'm picturing on the billboard and it's so stupid. But then you look at it, it's like, that's pretty good. You gotta bowld it out. You gotta bold the the out, you know, or something to make it all caps that you know,
you've gotta make that part exciting. Just go with like please please don't call us the defenders would be like that, right, because that's gonna get so uncomfortable, like right away, you know what I mean? Like, or how about it the defense falls off a cliff and at some point is that the worst defense in the league for five years and your nickname is the defenders? Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point. And came up with some of these names, was like the red Pigs or
the red hogs, Like what do we coming here? The red pigs? Is that up for? Is that? I like that a lot? And I don't think that's one of them pigs. Fantastic someone online photoshop uh ter Terry McLaurin in a Red Wolves jersey. I guess red Wolves was a thing, and like it was like one laws claws coming down, like bloody claws coming down his shoulders, and then it's and then the their slogan, it was like
Washington red Wolves. We won't concern ourselves with the opinions of sheep, you know because and I was just like wow, like that would be so bad that it would be the best thing for the franchise. Like that's what you do. You you lean into the worst nickname of all time
and you just totally rebrand. I really like that. I feel like the guiding principle should be if you could if the name conjures up an image of Jake Ruden as your quarterback, um, then you you're not a professional like NFL level team name and go back to the shop all right. Uh. For the New York Giants, Ricky can you play the the Maro clip um from his recent press availability. We're all on the hot seat, you know what I mean? With our fans in particular, we've
given him too many losing seasons. It's time for us to start winning. But no, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that's inaccuracy. The New York Giants, even the freaking owner is on the hot seat. No one's ever heard of that before. It's never happened. An owner has never been on the hot seat until the two thousand twenty one New York Giants. I believe it. I think he think he resigns in shame if the Giants go seven and ten, do totally he walked away from it all.
He He's literally been saying this every year since I started covering the team in two thousand and ten. And there's like every year he comes out and does his yearly availability and then someone says, is there a playoff mandate? And he said, we're all on the hot seat? But quick like boring stories like when Tom Coffin was there, the big thing was every year he had a slogan and it was terrible, and it was always like from some picture book he probably read on General Patton or
something like that right before the season started. But it was like a very like frantic thing where it was like, which beat reporter is gonna be the first guy to identify the slogan and like sometimes the players would in your very early days of Twitter like maybe hashtag it and then you're like, is that the slogan? And like you know, and then you'd get there and be like burn the boats or you know, we're going all in or like you know, uh, secure the borders or something,
you know, like one of those things. And that's McCarthy did with the Austin Powers thing. You clearly watched that on Netflix, uh and and decided, oh, yeah, Mojo, that's that's our whole thing. But which, by the way, if you had a whole offseason to prepare a speech and and that's which it came up with, like like and you knew you were gonna be on hard Knocks, Like if I'm Jerry Jones, I'm like, who the hell did I hire? I think it's just a human capacity we're
dealing with there. I don't if my number one takeaway from every hard knocksis and is. Has any one of these speeches ever helped any team at all? Like, think of the amount of man hours wasted. I'm sure maybe a couple of them have, but for the most part, think of like all the time that's wasted, that's not helped anyone in one likes degree, and they'd still just do it all the time. Speaking of the Cowboys, anybody got one of them? I have one. I have offense
not available in certain participating locations. Uh, just because it's like, uh, I guess it was like a way to get to the fact that like Mike McCarthy sort of lied about everything that he knew about offense leading up to this, and that sometimes they look really great and then sometimes they look like the two thousand and eleven Packers and so um. Depending on which game you you attend, you
really don't know what what's coming. So you're not buying McCarthy's epiphany year where he apparently went out and was you know, downloaded into the motherboard like other offensive concepts, and he comebacks and it's just the same guy. Don't forget about mojo moments, guys, you gotta factor that into the offensive year. He told Peter King, He's like, I'm gonna hire eleven math guys and like, and then you go to like the team uh, the team website, it's like,
where are the math guys? There's no you gotta be a subscriber to y Yeah, you get to the math guys. Yeah. He hired like eleven sixth grade math teachers at an area elementary schools and middle schools, and even then they could teach him, like you know, hey, let's go for it. And fourth, I've got the Eagles, um, which the slogan would be Sirianni more like Siri yummy. Okay, so alright,
haven't seen it in person? Like yeah, lean into um Yeah. Yeah, it's a younger women to everyone, just like it's Siri yummy. All right. I like that. Back to Cowboys, I had a clean gooch, full hearts, can't lose. That's money and part not This Week and Hard Knocks. But I was not familiar with that. Really, neither was Dan. Apparently it was not. I wasn't that area of the body show. Yeah that's all right, Well we still have that area of the body, so she's it's not only we aren't.
We still are part of the experience. I mean, I will give it to the youth of America. I actually like Gooch better than uh the other ones, right, I think I think you guys have hit on something here. Good job with everything else too, um nfc North? Anybody got one from the North too? For the what what's that? Hunter? Are missing the giants in the East? All right? What do you got for the giants? We ain't got time
to bleed Roddy Piper? Just because I was there for the practice where Joe Judge freaked out and every made everybody do laps and push ups, and it was it was phenomenal. It was like it was unlike anything I've ever seen before in my life. And do you think get the vibe that that's a he's kind of messing with something here, He's in a little bit of putting himself in danger. Put it that way. One with this type of style, do you think this is gonna work
long term? Even long term being December? This is the bell Weather. I actually wrote this that this is the bell Weather for whether anybody else is gonna try this again? Right, Like he is the last guy. I feel like if this doesn't work, then the tough guy coach goes basically out the window like Bell. And then Belichick is the last guy that's able to do that, you know, because you you can't come in hot anymore and and do that.
You have to like in in five years, everybody is gonna look like um like like Kyle Shanahan, like the official coaching uniformal change from like a polo to like a patagonious sleeveless vest and like a checkered gingham shirt on the sideline. Like everyone's gonna look like that guy. You know, I don't know if that's a good thing either. This this approach works if you win. Look at Belichick, It's like he got a win. That's that's what matters
the most. Um N North, I got it. I got the Vikings right, which is you know, which is just no, it's not covid um or like like's just click on a billboard. How does that look like? You know? You can put your mask on our quarterbacks about to call play, you know, uh, and what it's like the Viking helmet or the logo or whoever their mascot is, and then it's just locked in a glass or a plexiglass cage, like the quarterback wants to be like you just kind
of get like that there image visual. Yeah, I've got the Packers, which their slogan is gonna be like, Okay, thirteen and three wasn't good enough for you. Watch this I'm a Packers one too. Um. With this Packers one, you need to you have to imagine yourself um in the stadium. This Elton John version of this song is blasting in the and the tagline is the big back. Okay, little complaining Quarterback's back in the house. But then you
sell it in a different way. I don't know how he's gonna He's probably gonna put that on good a Kunts when he sees the billboard outside. You know what. You know what for all these people that are so hardcore on the other side, they can view it through that lens. It's really through whatever you want to see it as that the Lions, Um, you know, this is a rebuilding situation for the Lions. So you gotta kind of look to find your positives here about Detroit Lions.
We have the strongest coach and then just leave it at that. They do physically he's the strongest coach. It's absolutely true. I mean, he is a guy, like he looks good getting off the bus. They always say that about football teams, why not your coaching staff? Well more and more so I think that's true. My Lions one was um, you could pair it with that um if times get tough, but you can switch over to Little House from the Prairie after the first quarter if you wish.
It's fine. We totally get it. I love that you keep those little House on the Prairie refs Strong century. I think it would be funny if one of the slogans and the Lions I guess would fit for this was just like oh no, no, no, no, but that that's mean, right. I think it's more like we're trying the Mike Frabel thing, you know, like li Lions, like we're trying the Micrabel thing, you know, because we just, you know, see if they could do it. You know,
NFC South, I got one for the Saints. Do your job, even if we didn't do our job reinforcing our roster in the off season. I have a Saints head. Yeah. My Saints one is f y. I we might kind of bite, but TBD, just a heads up and you kind of just have that as a long bear. Were so negative. But my my Saints one is if you love the Pats, you'll love us. I started saying the same thing, Greg, That's what I mean. We're all. That's
why I feel bad. We're all. We're all piling on a little bit like please please enjoy Sean Payton as the head coach of your Dallas Cowboys were still. I love that. That's one of my favorite rumors. I do have a Panthers one, which is who rules? Matt rules? Comes up? Sam Donald, better play along to make that
billboard makes sense? Made I feel like that. You know the fans are thinking it, so why not make it the slogan h Finally, unless you had one there in the South Connor, I know you gotta get going in a minute. My Panthers one was just can our quarterback throw to the left. We'll find out. Finally, the NFC West, it's kind of a real one for me. The Seahawks cook or die? This is it just lean into it.
Give Russ seventeen weeks and if he falls on his face, you learn something about him, the offense, the state of this team. Cooker died, Cooker died. I do like the short ones. I have to admit those those just they sing I have a Niners one one a Niners one. This would be on on on top of the big bell bottom. They build like a hundred yard long billboard that also goes up about thirty yards and it just says,
anyone smell a think piece. But I think what's gonna happen with this team is it's gonna be everyone all all, everyone including me. Everyone loves Shanahan. And when Shanahan does a lot of amazing stuff with Trey Lance, the fan boys, and it's kind of just feel kind of like something that I thought I liked a lot more than other people.
Everyone's gonna like Kyle Shanahan the same and write a billion bi week five or six insane thing pieces all over the internet about what he's done with Trey Lance and the Revolution, And so that sign is just gonna be, like, you know, anyone smell a think piece? We should do these slow again. At the beginning of training camp, I feel like we're getting like a cynical fourth week of training camp, are ready for the season to start a bunch of slogans. But I do have a forty Niners
one too. Mine is, uh, this is gonna be just like two thousand twelve without that harpout, time out. I see a theme with yours as well. Greg. A lot of callbacks the past seasons. Some people will have to do maybe a Wikipedia search, but they'll connect those dots times. It's fair the Niners fans, No, I feel like, yeah, it's directed. I've got a Cardinals one, but I will need Ricky too to bring it up for us if
she's there. Hey, a sailor. If you're looking for a good time with the team that feels destined to go eight eight and one, come on over, big boy. That was the Cardinals. Yeah, okay, they're just kind of selling what they are. Probably one of the most likely teams in the league to go eight eight and one for the first time in NFL history, But it could be fun. Remember our a t n intern. Yeah, what was his name or her name? Kyle Kyle. That's right, that's a
slogan for the Forts. Kyle. All right, Connor, do you have a podcast to record? Yeah, you got and and you should listen to You're gonna listen to it. You want to listen to it right now or well when you're done, you know, comes it comes on Monday. I gotta taping it Thursday to come out on Monday. That's cutting edge. What what happens, if anything happens at all between now and then, we do we do add segments.
We we've done that. Sunday is normally like our our wiggle room day, you know, just you know, I'm gonna give it a listen for your seems like, yeah, okay, well yes, we're gonna listen to the entire week of preseason ahead. So if you're looking for, you know, slightly older content anyway, check it out. The It is the mm QB Podcast. I believe it's called correct. That's it. And follow Connor at connor Or that's one and two rs on the last name, one R on the first name.
That just made her even more complicated to try to find him. But you'll find him and one day he'll be the cover story for a Super Bowl Gamer. I feel it. Connor, you're a you're a hero. Well, it was great to see you guys, and thank you for having me on. And let's let's all get together soon. Yeah, we've all got the jab, get the get the jam, all right. There he goes, there, he goes the iconic Connor or get him the key to the city. Why
not if you're still listening. I don't know if the man in power um was involved, Uh that was involved with the initial gift giving is still in office, but a lot of political upheavals have gone down since or whenever that story was. Hopefully the my Not infrastructure is still in place because they were not. He was an operative to I don't think he was like the highest. I think he was a regular guy who listened to the show. So I'm not sure what his deal was.
By the way, like my Not, North Dakota has some of the grizzliest ties to the Son of Sam case that you will find anywhere, which I believe I've tried to get you guys. I've texted you all this before. No one ever responds. But um, now, Netflix, I believe it's Netflix of Prime has this Son of Sam's documentary and my Not is featured hardcore and like episode three, so if you were a deep diver, check it out. All right. If I do get I don't want the
key to that city after what I saw. But a real tough spot when you like wake up on a Saturday and you see the three tiered Sessler tweet storm or text storm from like one thirty in the morning the night before about the son of Sam, because it's like the next like do you respond? Then it's like, why, apologies for sharing my interests with my cohorts and friends. I'll I'll step away from that. Please never stop sending it.
I yeah, don't always reply because whatever is going on on mark time wherever you are sometimes just does not connect with what's going on in other people's times, So I don't. I can't really interface. But I also suspect you have me on mute and various UM formats at times, so I've never had never all right, as promised, before we go, uh, you heard Chris Uh in a little flashback to two thousand thirteen when he first By the way, you didn't just hear Chris, you actually heard a little
snippet of the producer that stole our stitcher. That was a real and it's great to hear with his voice. And Ricky did a great job digging up the rest of what I believe is a early conversation station about the famed Bengals dossier. So UM as opposed to playing out with our standard UH music play out. I will say this, he'd the call, and now we throw it to you know, we hop in the time machine when we're all together. Uh. And West was explaining to us
his divorce from his boyhood team, take it away, Mr Wesley. Wesley, and I couldn't help Notice you came into the office today with a big file of Night seven paperwork that the highlights and underlines and everything. So this is wow. There it is. That's the holy grail. That is exactly what West has been speaking of for weeks. He has an entire five what how do you describe it again? Well, it was a legal file folder. When I used to work at a law firm, I had one of the
legal files. But it's now in like a hanging file. This is my evidence for why I broke up with the Bengals about fifteen years ago. It's various articles and research about how they ran their operation at the time and why I felt a need after they left me at the Altar to not go back to their loving arms. This is this is wonderful madness. This is insane. He has highlighted articles from Salon dot com places. Remember King Kaufman from Salon don't even exist. Anymore. It's some weird
iteration of ESPN. He has an article from The Inquirer entitled Mike Brown's Contribution to the Lunatic Fringe about Bengals charging three dollars for tap water. That's the most Bengals article ever. I like, how you ever? Clearly this all these were printed up on a Netscape Rouser dial up connection, a library computer lounge. I don't take sports loyalty lightly. And if you're going to break up with your team, I think you have to have you have to make
a case. I made a case. Have they ever lured you back to potential fandom? And then you've gone to visit this legal file for why did you? Were you doing this at the time or then you decided, Okay, I'm gonna break up? And then I went back and
printed all these out. I would say half and half like some of those articles from when I broke up with them, and then maybe by two thousand and two they were having another really historically awful season and I thought, okay, maybe you have to remind myself of why I broke up with this and did you ever did you ever present your cases? There's someone that you do present such
a case too well. Every once in a while there'll be some very shortsighted, ignorant fan who will have this opinion that you can never break up with a team, and you have. They think loyalty is only a one way street. The fan has to be loyal, but the franchise doesn't. And at that point, maybe I can go get my research and show them why exactly this. People forget because the Bengals have had a few good years, how bad of an operation they were. It was the
worst operation I've seen in sports. And I have one that's accusing Mike Brown of breaking constitutional rights of freedom of speech. I have another once I forgot about where the Bengals, I guess lightly threatened to move to Cleveland. Did you remember this? At awesome? People forget about all the egregious things they did. How can the Bengals threatened to move to another city with the team the already and planted during the I was hoping that I'm looking
at something here. West scrawled it in crayon that the Bengals and Brown were in the Grassy Knoll. And we understand Wesseling's divorce from the Bengals. I don't. I still don't under say it actually leaves more questions than answers. We can talk about this over beers. We will, and we will. I don't know how we get back on track because I want to dig through. Literally, I feel
like we're not describing it properly. There's probably what three hundred pieces of paper and that will take a photo of this and send it out on our Twitter account highlights and you guys can take a look.