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Steelers Defeated, Headlines from the FUTURE

Dec 08, 20201 hr 12 min
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A virtual room filled with heroes- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, and Marc Sessler are joined by Patrick Claybon to recap the Washington Football Team's win over the previously undefeated Pittsburgh Steelers (3:50) and the Buffalo Bills romp over the 49ers (13:21). The heroes read headlines from the future that may shock you (27:44) before previewing the Patriots Rams matchup (1:04:02). Please follow the Around the NFL Podcast on Instagram @theatnpodcast and leave a review! Around the NFL is a part of the NFL Podcasts network.

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Be Around the NFL Podcast has unfollowed the official NFL accounts on Twitter and Instagram. Welcome to another edition to Be Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. I'm coming to you from a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Cecily, Greg Rosenthal. And he's back, baby, and he is a warrior. Patrick Claibon, what's up boys? What's up? Everybody? Remember when Alex Smith, I'm gonna get to Mr Smith and just a bit, had seventeen leg surgeries and and

he came back and he was a hero. And then if you couldn't, if you just when you thought you couldn't respect him anymore, he got cleated in the shin and he had blood and gore coming out of his sock and onto his shoe during the Monday night game, Uh this week, And you're like, man, this guy he gets it. He he's a true team player. That's what I'm thinking about. Claibon, who had oral surgery, Uh just got a stitches taken out this morning and he's on

a talking podcast right now. Patrick Clayban, you are our Alex Smith. Hey, Look honestly, um, if if people are bleeding, uh if you're as the the internet uh sabotages me. But but seriously, if if, if you're bleeding profusely, if you're not Alex Smith, um, you know, stay home, do do what you can to protect yourself. Don't be don't be a hero for anybody. I had. I had a minor procedure to take care of a root canal issue

that has been going on for way too long. They had to snip the tip of a tooth of a root root of a tooth, and I'm back. No problems, no problems with Dan, Dan's over selling it. I'm fine. Nobody worried about me. I'm just to miss the day of TV. I go the other way. I think, um, I think we should take Alex Smith as an inspiration. Show up to everything bloody, even if you weren't bloody before.

Just get bloody before you go there. Be like Alex Smith, the only the only roll in bloody sock in sports history. For my perspective, I know I'm no doctor or rabbi, but when you snip the tip it and get bloody. By the way, this I like that. That was a funny money tag. This would be a great time to really put pull a power play within the company, like heading right into um one of the darkest winters in our nation's history, you know, at least in a long time.

Just say, now, it's let's consider us. Let's consider our situation. Guys, it's time to consider us. Why did we unfollow all the major accounts? I don't I don't understand the facts behind well, I mean, I don't think there are any facts.

I mean, I think just as a move of like, you know, we're we're you know, just like many players do that, you know, if they're if they're unhappy with their bosses or want to make some sort of move that I guess I should say, if if Roger Goodell is listening right now, if the chief of Ventofil Network, Mark Quinzel is listening, uh no, we we have followed hard all those accounts, and we believe in the direction of this company and the message. The message is the key.

All right, big show today. So we got the Warrior with us uh, and we are going to roll through uh two more games on the week thirteen slate. Impossibly, We're not done though. There is a Tuesday game of course between the Cowboys and Ravens and me and the Sizzler are gonna give you a mini pod late tonight. Uh so stress on extra extra content from the A t N podcast. This show will focus on the two Monday games and also it's been a while headlines from the future as we look to the end of the

regular season. We have those mystical powers and we will use them. We're not afraid to use them. In fact, we're gonna do it. So let's dig in and we'll start in the order in which the games were played on Monday. Let's head to Hines Field rather tipped up in the air and intercept intercepted by John Buffet takes over. With the three point lead, we were absolutely well, I guess it pays to be lucky. And because man Montess went great job tipping that ball. Wow, yeah, kill that music.

This is not Monday Night Football, not branded by ESPN or Disney or any of its subsidiaries. This was just a game and you probably couldn't even watch it because it wasn't nationally televised anyway. The call Bram Weinstein, D'Angelo hall and that was Julie Donaldson of w T E. M Monte Sweat Knox that the Ben Roethlisberger passed up in the air, it is picked off by Mr Bostick, and that John bost That was Mr John Bostick, and

that was the difference. Uh. The Washington football team knocks off the Pittsburgh Steelers twenty three to seventeen, the first loss of the season, and I think it's only fair of that. I t up Mr Greg Rosenthal who predicted Washington would knock the Steelers from amongst the ranks of the unbeaten, and they were the only one. Greg, How did they do it the way they've been doing it all year by like being better than the some of

their parts. When you watch them, it it's tricky. I don't like getting into this nebulous area of like, oh they're mentally tough, you know, like they're a mentally tough team. But when you watch them, I see it. I see them competing hard as hell every week on both sides

of the ball, especially defense. And I think that tip pass was fitting because this was a day where they didn't they barely touched Ben Roethlisberger, you know, I think they had three quarterback hits and in about fifty five dropbacks.

But they just keep coming and they keep making it uncomfortable, and they tackle and they play like their hairs on fire, and the offense seems to find a way to do just enough in a game where they lose their most dynamic offensive player, Antonio Gibson right off the jump, they lose the key to their offensive line, Brandon schurf Uh in the third quarter of this game. They just keep pushing, and I think heavy wears the crown of an undefeated

team in December. I think these teams they they don't want to lose, but I think it's just a lot to be carrying. I think the Steelers were due and they played a team like no other, the football team. I thought that the goal line stand that Washington produced, um little moments, Um, I made the mistake, you know. I was. I think we're all writing on Monday, and then suddenly the game is starting and it's like, wait,

I've got overlapping duties here and in Washington. Washington went down at one point where the Steelers dropped to their second touchdown. I I tweeted out game over, which is never a good move. Um, about fourteen minutes into a game. But I really was convinced that that Steelers were quite angry coming off the nationally televised Raven game where they were I thought they looked confused, out of rhythm, and they doubled down in this game and looked looked completely

out of sorts. And you know, I don't know if if Greg it's it's a mentally tough um other side of the coin for the Steelers, But the drops, uh, like the decision to throw to Anthony McFarland when you've got you know, four or five white outs on the field in a key situation, a guy that's not someone who's been a go to guy for Ben. This seemed out of sorts and and and you know, we can

get deeper into the game. But one thing I find interesting is when these probably two of Pittsburgh's worst games happened back to back on I realized some people didn't see this game, but essentially a low isolated alone out there for viewers to watch. There are a lot of really um agitated Steelers fans that feel disrespected, and I get that. Um At the same time, they've they've not looked like a best record in the league team at

all over the past two weeks. They've got to sort themselves out I thought it was interesting that Montez Sweats said that they all knew they were gonna win this game. That's fine to say it, but Chase Young told add that we did because Baltimore exposed some things. He said, So I just you know, there's you get that little report, and I wonder, um, if there's some sort of carbon copy out there for teams to follow. Well, I think the copy to follow, right is to be a solid team.

And if not for that James Washington fifty yard touchdown, because the way this Redskins defense is, oh, I didn't no slur jar. Alright, we're going in the slur jar. That's like the first in years by the way, um, and and Clay Bonn's defense, he's on a heavy amount of drugs, right, totally, not not at all, not not heavy, that's light amount. But honestly, Um, the way that they're structured, kind of build front to back, Um, they're gonna be.

They're supposed to make you work. Right, So Fuller misses the tackle on James Washington, the Steelers score an easy one, and and that's really the only relatively easy score that they had. And when things are as Mark mentioned, like not going as perfect as they could for the Steelers that they run into this opponent, Um, it's gonna fight you for for every yard and it just didn't work out.

And as far as like feeling slighted or disrespect it's really hard to win every game like everybody, everybody doesn't do that. So as far as the sky is falling and all of it, like yeah, like we're saying that they're not this world be there unbeatable, unbreakable team, nobody is. But you you play a game against the team that's hot quarterbacks, got a great story and um montes what makes the play a guy who people literally questioned his

heart right coming into the draft. Uh, they don't know if he's gonna be able to hold up and and now he's he's coming to his own. This defensive line is great then, um and they just this team is Alex Smith. They they don't mess up a lot. They're they're not gonna wow you with a bunch of great plays, but but they're gonna show up and they're gonna give you a B minus. And if if you don't play B plus, then you're you're gonna lose. I think that's

well said. This is not a world beating Washington team. U. But they are well prepared and well coached, and the quarterback doesn't make mistakes, even if he'll drive you crazy at times with some of his uh predictable underneath passing, But even that in the second half changed, He just he just was. He just played such a great game,

and again off seventeen surgeries and he entered. The only reason he really made the team was because of his salary and how prohibitive it would have been to cut him. And he ends up being the starter. And now they're in position to make the playoffs. And and Greg, I'm with you on the Steeler side of things, um in terms of the pressure and the heat that comes with being undefeated as you approach mid December. And I gave them a pass for what was really an ugly game

against the Ravens last Wednesday. And I thought of it at the time as uh, throw that one out. It was just stupid. It was delayed multiple times, COVID issues, everybody's knocked off their schedule. But really what it what we saw was that this was now an extension of that where guys dropping passes. There's just a little they're a little out of sink and maybe pressing with the spotlight on them the way it has been in such an unusual way. And the one thing I would think

from their offense, which is kind of weird. It's a bit of strange offense the Steelers where they can go into these deep funks and then they come out of it for a quarter and they get the game on track, but then they could slip back under. They need to figure out this running game because they cannot. There's there's nothing they can do, it seems when they need short yardage other than like dial up another Ben Roethlisberger quick dropback and pass and that works a lot, but it

doesn't always work. Would be much better to have a hammer. Maybe it's James Conner when he gets healthy. Maybe it's calling a snake for big breeze. And by the way, he's never been more big breeze than this one fifty three. It took about fifty four throws to pass. Uh. It's again, that's not totally an insult. I'm talking about like a fairly effective breeze in cold weather. These receivers have dropped a lot of passes. These last two games would have

looked a lot different uh, if that didn't happen. That said, they's they're a station to station offense, so they don't have as much um room for error to survive these jobs because they're getting no big plays. And the running game has gone from like a problem to one of the worst, if not the worst in the league the last month. And it's gone from like bad to like it's it's a sinkhole. Mark You're you get the last word, Well, I don't know if I need the last word, but

I mean getting James Conner returning. It's not the same thing as like s Kwon Barkley returning. I mean, I think they had issues with James Conner too. I'm with you. They're an imbalanced offense. Some of that goes back to play calling to a lot of people not happening. You get Pouncy back, you might get Stephen Nelson back, but you lost Joe Hayden in this game, and it sometimes

it is just like magic though. I mean these the biggest player of the game to me was Cam Sims turning in one of those short Alex Smith throws on a third and fourteen to a big time game and Cam Sims makes an insane one handed catch later in the in the game, and even in the field goal drive to end the second quarter. It's like they're young players. Logan Thomas, he's been cut fourteen times. How about that for a comeback story in his career. He's he's like

riding to a big time game. And and that's my version of the last word. Couldn't You couldn't give Cessa the last word? Greg, Now, I hadn't. I'm too excited about the football team coming through. Well, it's a great prediction. I'll give you that. All right. That was the last word by Mark cecil. It's head to the real deal, Holy Field, Monday night football game. All right. Here they are at the five yard line of Buffalo in the Shark information third and goal for an honors low snap

around the knees, picked up by bones. No one's open. He breaks one tackle, he moves up in the pocket. Those are short pashets that they're gold line, but grabbed by both the running back and White, the defensive back. And they grabbed it at the same time. And they're going to call it an interception. Oh my goodness. Disaster for San Francisco. Disaster for San Francisco. Yes, you gotta believe.

You gotta believe when it comes to Tremaine Edmunds that he's gonna be the one that comes away from all the Bills roll over the San Francisco forty niners. And it was a good effort by the Bills. Defense is a good all around effort by the Bills. But really, to me, the story is josh Alan Patrick Laban thirty two of forty three, seventy four touchdowns, no picks, the first quarterback and Bill's history to complete seventy of his passes with four touchdowns? Are you buying in on the

Bills ceiling being lifted after this show? Look, if you can't get a new pressure on Josh Allen, especially with Stefon Diggs playing the way a good night, there's just there's limited opportunity for you to have success. And I yeah, I said it last week as as far as being wrong about a football player, especially after after the draft, after his rookie year, after his second year, and it's like, well, you know the ceiling is sixty completion percent. Well, no,

it's it's past that. He's he's well into the sixties. He's um feathering balls like over the middle. Uh, there was a great throw um just just out of the Fred Warner I believe, who is like six three fully outstretched. Uh. It was just a perfect past and he had several on the night. So I've never been as wrong about

a player as that was wrong about Josh Allen. And if you can't bother him, and like the Rams did in the second half of that game, um, and in all of their losses, you're able to get pressure on Josh and kind of not that he is as mistake prone as he was, but he still wants to make plays. And sometimes when you try to do everything, um, it can go horribly wrong. But if he's if he's just able to stand back there, that you're just gonna lose

the game. I think there are these games with Josh Allen where you can tell ten twelve minutes into it that he's in a place of total calm, And that just seemed to be him last night. And when Josh Allen plays that way, and when you're not making life tough on him, and you've got one of the better receiving groups in the league. Cole Beasley um playing one of the best games of his career. I think they can beat any team in the a f C or the NFC. I mean that's their ceiling when all things

are coming together. I mean their running game was not great last night, it didn't really matter. Josh Allen was unstoppable. He was in a place of total zen and I thought it was captured well at the moment when, uh, you know, after a Cole Beasley touchdown, when John Feliciano, the guard, the big lineman is just cradling him like a little baby in his arms. I don't like a lot of these end zone celebrations, but that's what exactly.

I mean, that was just perfect, and I thought it encapsulated the total piece that the Bills were feeling and taking apart a discompopulated Niners team that had moved to Arizona. I mean, when he's good, he's breath taking. That was as good a half as any quarterbacks played all year, because you know, he had the three or four just insane wow throws that very few quarterbacks could possibly make.

But he also had all the open receivers and the really good decision making, which kind of puts him over the top when he's feeling. He said after the game, uh, that he was in his zone and that you know when it's spinning, when you know what the ball is doing, when you know what the tail is doing, and I think he means the tail of the ball um like that's that's when you feel everything's great. And I think

that's a unique sort of quarterback. It's why I'm almost bored of myself continuing to bring up Cam Newton when it when it comes to Josh Allen. But man, I I love the comparison. And you saw the graphic last night that they were the first two quarterbacks to have a certain amount of rushing yards, touchdowns, passing yards that like a younger Cam Newton. And now that poor man's Cam Newton stuff I tried to put on Alan Early

is so wrong. He reminds me of Cam Newton in prime Cam Newton that he's streaking, and I think Cam Newton was like that as a throw that obviously he can make every throw that there ever is, but he does it in a way where he has like a feel uncertain days that he maybe doesn't have every single day, but when he has that feel, and Cam was I think among the streakiest great quarterbacks in NFL history, It's like you're not stopping that dude. Yeah, he when he's

locked in, it is scary. And Mark I totally agree. I thought the same thing. How completely at ease he seemed to be in the pocket. And there was even an incompletion uh late in the game where he scrambled to his right and scrambled and scrambled and scrambled, and most quarterbacks would either take a sack or panic and throw it over the middle late or just throw it away. He was so confident that he kept his eyes up

the whole time. He eventually did throw it away, but even like you can see the lineman kind of chuckling with him, He's like he wasn't giving up anything. And because I think he believed he complete complete any pass yesterday and when Alan is playing with that confidence, and again this is against Robert Sala sala defense that we've been talking up in a forty Niners team that we saw as a team potentially ready to make a rise, and he just made them, um look like an EXFL team.

And if I'm the if I'm the Chiefs, if I'm the Steelers, and if I'm any any an FC team that fashions itself a true Super Bowl contender. I'm I'm taking a big gulp there and be like, oh, because if this version of Josh Allen shows up in the playoffs, they can beat anybody, and that includes the Chiefs well, and they have Pittsburgh next. And I would mention along with Sala Brian Dable, who you know, he has hung around in Buffalo for a while, and I think it's

been a perfect partner for Josh Allen. He helped them a lot down the stretch last year when they changed the pace of the Bill's offense. I think it helped Josh Allen. Last night, I mean, the two of them, they made mincemeat of the forty nine secondary one that a week ago made the Rams look foolish. So it is such a week to week league because the Niners, to me, never found that groove that the Bills did. And Dan, I saw that you tweeted like where was

Deebo Samuel and all this. They just never got into their groove. And sometimes I love Kyle Shanahan and his running backs, but like seven people had essentially rushing attempts in that game. You gotta settle it down at some point and get get one guy. Maranahant No, I'm just saying, you know, it's like, why not give why not say like today is Rheim mustered today to run the ball twenty five times? I mean, just because Belichick likes to use a bevy of backs, and it's not every game

you're You're just gonna get shocked at. Some dude out of nowhere is gonna blitz you for two hundred yards

in a week sixteen and leave you dead. The debo thing was weird because he was so awesome last week and the fact that he was not part of the game plan until the game was basically out of hand, and then Nick Mullin starts feeding him late in the game and he's making plays almost every time the balls in his hands because he's Deebo Samuel, I for one, is like you Mark tread carefully when criticizing the great Kyle Shannon, But I thought Clayban that the game plan

was a little off with not having Deebo Samuel will have a bigger role here. I think sometimes the circumstance, the defense of the matchup, and Kyle Shanahan draws a picture in his mind of the way things are going to go out, and that's the way things going to a plan and when it works, oh my gosh, this is very devo Samuel, because you know, he's he's back for the first time, he looks healthy, he's got one

thirty one and eleven targets. UM. And when it doesn't work, it's like, hey, where where are these football players that have contributed so much? You know what, why can't we get Julio more than four targets in the Super Bowl? Um? But it's UM. I think that's just one of those cal Shannian things where sometimes it's one of those times one of the great NFL catches of all time. It was, it was the best catch in the game. We know that. UM.

But in terms of Shanahan, it's uh. He the Josh Allen thing is, uh is tough to compete with, especially when they can't get stops and it's tough for his offense to to do what it needs to do on the ground and they don't have that gear, right, I mean the forty Niners don't have that gear as good as Nick Mullins is you know, shot off to Spain Park High School, my wife's alma mater. UM. You know

it's it's it's not um. It's it's not everything that you'd like to have have on an offense, especially uh, you know, on a road home game, which they did a pretty good job of making, um making it look like Levi's almost with the tarps and stuff. Pull back a little bit and it's like, that's not Santa Clara, but the bottom, the big bell. Bottom also doesn't have, you know, quite the charmer personality of old Candlestick, even though it's a much better facility and not a ton

of personality. So you're throw in another red, modern stadium. It's like, all right, let's go. The Bill's defense, I think, has come out of their bye week playing their best two games of the season. You get Matt Milano back last night. I think that's huge because if they defenses are fickle and uh, if they're if they're back to being somewhere close to the Bills defense from nineteen, then then then you really start thinking about them as a

super Bowl team. The last last thing I do on a point I was like, can we can we just slow down? The Robert Salad needs to be hired by the Lions thing. It's almost like they're telling me so much that they at one point they said the Lions would be so key if they were even able to

talk to them. I mean the idy he's like the dolly Llama that they should be where at that time of year though, when you're in December and the coordinators having a nice year, these guys look like absolute like Belichick clones, you know, lock it in for twenty Super Bowl titles. That was Matt Patricia during the end of

his Patriots run. I mean, Greg, at least, you know, the Texans don't believe that they'll be able to speak with anyone, so they've shut down all searches and just they're gonna wrap you know, Romeo Cornelle up in Christmas wrapping paper for themselves as their present. The problem is, Greg, You're asking for moderation from Monday Night football and they do they do nothing, like they tiptoe into nothing. If it's a discussion of a coach an issue, and they're

they're going to give you the full treatment. You could tell they love them though. And Leavi said at one point, and I'm hoping he misspoke because people made a deal.

I was picking on Levy all the time, and he literally said Salah Sala said that he was going to have his pick of all the job, which either a bad job by Levy for revealing Salas said that, or he misspoke um because real I can't imagine he's puffing his just out that much where he's like, yep, gonna be choosing by everyone, Like the last few weeks, you've been coming after leaving a little bit and it's like, you know, you got testator fired up at you a

couple of years ago. You want to mess with the Leavy. You see that guy works out. I don't know if mess out um Big Tech. By the way, it could help the Houston Texans, our company, our startup which claim on if you want to get in on absolutely you could buy into the company. Yeah, if if, if it's just a simple internet connection issue, we have modems for days at Big Tech for the Texans if they want

to start their head coach search. Uh. And my final thought is, uh, Greg, sometimes you can be premature in saying someone uh did a premature forking, you know a little bit. Everybody getting so crazy about the forty niners on the rise, Well they hadn't even got the five yet. I'm feeling good about marketised for ye're the one that picked him in this game. I picked the bills. I'm just saying Playoff Spot has has some potential to be

ugly down the stretch. I'm not I'm not in love with any of these seven seeds, and it it could be. It's kind of under the radar that eight and eight could be that seventh seed right now. So I don't even say the forty Niners are out of it. And you know, Dan, I I would go back to giving us credit for what we did on the Godzilla Mini pod where we forked the Niners, and you know, people were critiquing us and I and and let's look at

our our integrity as journals. Um, I'm quite pro Niners and had to had to go there, you know from an analyst standpoint that night. And I feel that we're we continue to stand on very strong down ground. So you know, let's um, we could down the show right now and feel good about what we've done. Thank you. Is anyone else a little bit annoyed? Uh? Fresh out of surgery? How good Claybron looks with this lighting on him right now? Like? What is up with Clay Bron

being so much better looking than us? I'm trying to find out with this like copy three six laptop that they got me. Like why, I can't why it looks like it's pitch black, darkened here like I'm doing an interview with It's just like the light is hitting that beautiful face and it's just like this, it's almost like an angel. Yeah, I mean we also spoke for about five minutes before because Dan could not get over Claybonn lost the beard post surgery. Maybe it's a different looking

clave on these days. One thing that helps. I've just given imant peace with the fact that I'm about a five point six and it's well, it's not gonna you know when you feel good about that, and you just gotta you gotta eight, you know how like it you gotta age to just though you know, for for for a man of your age, bump it up to six point six. Well, it's yeah, Mark, you're a six and a half. You are all north of eight. I will say that that is not a that is not yours.

Not true. Let's move off this topic because it's depressing for three of us. Um all right, now that's the football for Monday again. We have one more Week thirteen game Ravens Cowboys. Mark and I will hit that very quickly, Like you'll be surprised how quickly we hit it. To the point is like why do they even bother doing this? You guys, all this honking, you're gonna end up with like something seismic is going to happen in to know,

so it's gonna be a Minko like flash. All right, let's uh now transition to a place that other podcasts fear to tread. In fact, they don't even have the possibility to go into the future. Nine a d more than a generation away, and yet dreams traveled faster than light. And even though scientists and planners are shaping the lives of our children and will live in the twenty one century, how will they live? Perhaps no honeycombs trunch like this.

Take take a journey with our podcast into the future century beckons as we make predictions, no premonitions, headlines from the future. It's all couched in stadgy old print journalism. Give us a headline, tell us what's gonna happen when football ends on week seventeen. I believe it's January three,

two thousand one. I will get us going, by the way, spoiler alert, it should be said, if you're someone who looks at the NFL season as a television show, you probably don't want to watch the finale right now if you're in the middle of the season, and if you if you engage in um, you know, I activities in the desert, it would not be ethical to listen to what we're about to tell. It's like when you're watching the show anyway and they promo what's coming up in

the next segment and it spoils. It's like, I'm already watching. Just just just check out now, any I like that? We have yess, That's that's true. It's time to get rid of that. Let us now go into the future. The headline out of Baltimore, The Baltimore Sun, a thriving print outlet. Quote raven nevermore open parathetical losing clothes parenthetical the Ravens. We'll win out m wow, finish eleven and five and be the number five seed in the a f C playoffs. Don't worry, Mark, the Browns will still

be in the dance. But the future tells me that the Ravens are about to flip the switch, a switch that we wondered. We wondered if it would ever be flipped. If this was just one of those years where nothing works out. But listen to the schedule down the stretch for the Baltimore Ravens home against Dallas. Also, as you're listening to this, you probably already know the result. It's

one the better when a lot of pressure. I feel I have more pressure on Eve than the Pittsburgh Skillers right now that during yesterday, then at Cleveland, Cleveland will never beat the Rads, not in this fine not at this time. Home Jacksonville home gra Assets at five and oh you already know they beat the Cowboys eleven and five. I have to tell you, Dan, I am in um. You provided the analysis, but I think I should I should offer one of my headlines next because we are

in complete lockstep um. And this happened without any sort of conversation. We had similar visions. And this is from the Baltimore City Paper. Um A, it's not the Sun, but it's sort of one of those papers. It's in one of those machines you open. It's got the Wire Weekly Baltimore, the Baltimore Weekly something. Um. It goes like this, mark ingram on playoff bound Ravens colon rest of a FC better be wearing there depends Mark wo is See,

they're gonna be feeling themselves. Um. The Ravens come playoff time after what they after what you've just described that they will do, Dan, and they will be at full power Corona deep in the distance, and uh, it will be a scary sight in the future. I'm loving all this Ravens backing out of nowhere. I've been getting picked on for my belief in them. Well, you've made excuses for them all year. But yeah, that that that they could respond there there, there's still some issues here. Um

already have responded there. They're in the playoffs right. Well, they also already beat the Cowboys today, breaking that losing. That's true that Monday night game against the Browns, and it's it's too bad your Brown's lost, Mark, Um. There there aren't many games left on the entire schedule more excited for than the Ravens Browns. With the Browns a chance to get a little revenge. Ah, well, seventeen Ravens be Cleveland. So you can still watch it, Greg, but

the results will not be unknown to you. Do you give you a spoiler alert? You can't get upset with our podcast right now. But in all seriousness, there is a there's also a very obvious chance or not I shouldn't say obvious, but a very real chance that the Ravens plays. You know, the season continues in a similar script, they go, Let's say, I I feel like their floor here is probably nine and seven, and maybe that's good enough to get in the playoffs. Maybe it's not, um,

but I don't know. There's just too much talent here. There's there's there's I just believe in them to get hot um anybody else would would anybody be stunned if they want out here? No, not again. Schedule, they might be favored in every game. Cleveland will probably be a toss up, but there they they're gonna have to get to ten wins. It's it's not it's not simple for that.

I I don't think there's any chance in nine win team or very little chance in nine when team gets the f C. Alright, Patrick, take us to the future, all right, give me that music. I want to I want to get into the zone because some people are gonna tell me this as a prediction doesn't warrant all the pomp and circumstance, But this is a headline from a paper that means something to me. It's the Gatesville

Messenger headline after week seventeen, Gaze is out. Dan and you say, Patrick, why were you telling me this in December when we know that this is already going to happen. Well, it's because the subhead turmoil at the top comes to an end as a name in football returns to the National Football League to bring consistency to the franchise. Jim Harball is the head coach of the New York Jets. Things didn't work out in college football. You think you

get to pick the players, but you really don't. In the National Football League, you have an opportunity to secure talent, and with a name like Hardball, you can stand the test, this theoretical test that somehow the air the pressure is different in New York. It turns out the field is still the same link the football still weighs the same. Unless Tom Brady's playing. You can win in New York and Dan can finally rest as a happy Jets fan.

Congratulations fan, I really hope Jim Harball works out for you. Well, this is this is quite a spoiler, um, But you know the Jets, the Jets have been I'm not you got the Jets have been sniffing around Jim Harball before that. So this this makes a lot of sense. And then you have to the old Chris Westling line, which I

love so much. History is instructive. The last time that the New York Football Jets bottomed out in true humiliating fashion from a season standpoint was under rich Coe type when they followed a three and thirteen with a one in fifteen and they went and they got Bill Parcels from the Patriots, and that was the beginning of a

really fruitful era for the organization. And I I get the feeling that the Jets are gonna want to make a similar splash here at a time where again I didn't look and I should look into the future, and I had the opportunity to see if they had Trevor Lawrences their number one pick, but we don't know yet, But at a time where they could have the best college prospect UH to come out of the draft since Andrew Luck, when they have more free agent money than

anyone that when they have all these first round picks UH to now bringing a big name a head coach, that to me feels like a move that Johnson's might try to make here. So not only do I not question your premonition, Clay Bond, because I would be foolish to do so, because obviously you're right here. It all passes the smell test for me. Sounds sounds like the

type of mistake the Jets make a lot. You know, the general managers in place and he has no say over a coach who's gonna wind up having more power. When when these Bill Kawer rumors came out over the last couple of days, where Boomerissiasin is saying that, like cour it might be interested in the Jets. My initial that is like even the Jets aren't falling for Bill kaor Oki dok. I mean it's like, what what does agent call all the reporters and they're like, now, we're

not gonna go with this. So they're like, well, Boomer will float it for you. I mean, give me a break on on Bill Kauer Um. This actually reminded me of a headline that just got cut on the cutting floor, So in case you are curious about that, number one, we'll pick. Unfortunately, the January fourth headline on the New York Daily and he was one of them, is going to be darn it Sam Submarines tank for tread with last second win over the Patriots. Darn it Um. Yeah,

that I could see that happening. But uh, maybe maybe Jim Harbor would be a terrible move. But I I guess what are the alternative Who's the who's the number one name in this head coaching search? And it's gonna be a crowded and competitive field anyway. I get Brian day Ball for instance, Eric Enemy, Eric b Enemy. Uh, you could say Arthur Smith perhaps, I mean, all these guys have positives to them, but is there a slam

dunk higher if you could pick anybody you want. Maybe Harbaugh has passed his expiration date, I wonder, and he's I think he might be a little bit nuts, So also worry about that in New York. But you know, if if the Jets aggressively Wanta or Harbor, I wouldn't hate it, and probably would blow up in their face just because we're going off the the history of this organization. But I honestly would not hate it if that was the path they took. Any concern that Michigan is a

raging disaster, I don't know anything about college football. Made a comment that you don't actually get. This is particularly why like I saw this in my vision of the future, that this is something like a vast majority of football fans in New York don't care what happens at the University of Michigan. Uh, they're going to see the name

Jim Harball. They're gonna look at the old stuff and they're gonna be like, okay, and he'll get a chance, he'll like him, a chance that that maybe like an Eric the enemy wouldn't get or any of these Bob Sala probably wouldn't get. Uh, there's a lot of scrutiny that comes without having this this resume that brings all those other things with it that Jim Harball has. And you know, it's I think it just it's what's gonna happen.

So there we go. I mean, it's the future. Like Carcels, the best few years um of a Harbor administration are always the first few. So you know that happened in Michigan, that could happen with the Jets, and then it started. Then he burns himself out. And do you have any other negative wish casting to put on my team. You're mad that I'm saying Jim Harbaugh wouldn't work. I mean no, but you also predicted that Donald's gonna blow the Trevor tank. I mean, at what point do you does it run out?

This this wish? I thought you wanted them to win. I I could just imagine them being the Patriots. Let's go to another headline. I'm going now, let's that was my backup headline, but I figured, like topical. It was topical, All right, let's do it topics. You're a jerk, believe me, I'm you don't want Jim Hartman. Here we go, jack pot Pole, Raiders in disarray after disappointing and to the season.

That's written by Bill Bradley over at the Las Vegas Review Journal, our old NFL media colleague, now the sports It that's great, Double B caught a bird. This Raiders team taking on a little bit of water as the season ends reminds me a little bit of the last John Gruden team in Tampa, and UH like that team. I think if things went sideways down the stretch here

you have the Colts, you have the Dolphins. You find a way to lose maybe another division game and you end up at eight and eight just feels like a recipe for a lot of whispers about everything going on in that Organs is Gruden's not going anywhere. But Gruden on a losing streak to end the season just feels like a guy who's got to get wild and blows some things up. Say say what you say? What you mean? Greg? What is he gonna do? He's gonna fire Mike My

I'm not saying that, I don't know. I'm saying the rate that the Raiders are are ending the season, uh with a very disappointing finish, just like the year before, and that John Gruden is an emotional man who will who will change some things. I do not think Mayok would be would be in any t have to be Derek Carved then. I mean, if it's not car Mayock or Gruden, the low the news element to it is lower. I mean, first of all, what else does the Vegas

Sports section have on January three? You're telling me the Raiders not bumbling to the finish line? Is it a big deal after being where they were and all the excitement that they had if they finished seven and nine or eight and eight, which I do feel like is on the table. I think I think a lot of things could change, but certainly the coordinator um but also yes, the quarterback I think would be would be in play, even though I think Derek Carrs played well, I just

I don't I think it would be in play. I'm the biggest Raiders booster on this podcast, but I have to admit my faith is now shaken after these back to back performances. They shouldn't have beat the Jets. The only reason they beat him is because Greg Williams got himself fired with the worst play call of the year. And of course we know what happened against the Falcons that low, so they seem like a team. Here's the thing, though, here's the thing, and this is why the NFL is

the most popular sport in the country. Just when you think you have it off, it's the old Roddy Roddy Piper quote. Just one you thought yet all the answers I went and changed all the questions. I feel like the Raiders, that's so obvious that they're gonna go in the tank. That would it totally stunned me if they go and beat the Cult, who, by the way, didn't look so Hot themselves, uh, in their Week four team game.

I just think the week is the league is such a week to week thing that I don't want to put too much into these two games. And by the way, they did win their last week, so so there's seven and five. But I do I do acknowledge as the Raiders fan of this podcast, apparently there's reason to believe that this premonition will be accurate. Well, I mean, they had no business winning that game. Why discount Greg's fortune

telling it all? I mean, where everyone else has been taken as you know, I mean it seems like it was. It would be as clear as anyone else's. So it's a premonition. How different would you feel if Jack Pott hall That's pretty good. If there was a close loss to the Falcons and then they are a close win against the Falcons and then the opposite happens against the Jets, Like what we feel? Well, we feel that much different?

Like Sam Donald through the hail Mary, Yeah, I mean is is there is there that much of a of a difference over the course of the week versus how I feel? I think we're getting into my favorite part of every episode. Clay Bonn logic, take me through it. So what are you saying, Patrick, I'm just I'm saying Greg has seen the future, and we see the future, and whether it happens, uh this last week or this week, I think this Raiders team is kind of what what

it looks like. They are the same thing they were last year. A potent offense and a defense that that's really not gonna bother anybody that much. And so it all comes down to Derek Carr making these throws. And if you know, if Greg Williams splits his thirty seven people and you've you've got Lamar Jackson out there with nobody within thirty yards and Henry Ruggs can run past them, Uh, they can beat you. But if you don't do that, then, uh, you know, it's gonna be a little tougher on them.

I don't know what John Gooden would do exactly, Like you know, it just feels like, if you know, in his third season, if it goes bad at the end, he's just got to do something like angry phone call to Bill Bradley. Maybe he just has a wild you know night out, um, you know at the Mirage. I don't really know, but it feels like he's gonna do something, all right, If you are just tuning in, we are

looking into the future. All pertinent information about this family, it's records, its tastes, and reference material is staught in the central home computer, which is secretary, librarian, banker, teacher, medical technician, bridge partner, and all around servant in this house of tomorrow. They nailed that work pretty spot on, pretty good. Up next, from the Detroit Free Press known locally as Free a Lion in sunset, I'll take you to Sunday morning. It's a report that goes live on

our website at exactly six am. From NFL Network insider Ian rappaport Ian's report, the Lions game against the Vikings is expected to be Matthew Stafford's final start for Detroit. Ian further goes on that the Lions are planning a complete tear down under their incoming regime, and they are complying with Stafford's wishes for a clean break at this time. No bad blood, but Mr Stafford is ready to move on to whatever comes next in his career while the Lions blow it up and listen, we saw it just

this week. Matthew Stafford through for four yards lead the Lions to one of those great fund Matthew Stafford comeback wins. That's not really what they need right now. Then, in fact, it kind of hurts them that he is at that level. I was thinking about Stafford actually, so you have the you have a Dalton line established by Chris Weston two thousand fourteen, and he is the prime meridian for a franchise quarterback. If you're this is you know, maybe a

little out of date at this point. But if you're better than Dalton, you're a true franchise starter. If you're behind him, you're not. You're not the guy. I feel like Stafford is the Stafford line is for that next tier for top quarterbacks, and like that's how you differentiate if a guy is a true franchise star quarterback or someone closer to the middle of the pack. And I feel like his coming off this season, it's been a little up and down, but he's still UH in his

early thirties. He's got a lot of good football with him. I think he would be a fascinating UH player in the Tom Brady role. From last offseason. Well, I don't know if he would have to be a trade or away where he gets out of his contract and he's a proper free agent. But that's what's coming. I'm sticking to the prediction, though we're keeping this within the seventeen weeks of the regular season. The prediction is that the Lions will be clear and open about this, that this

is the end for Matthew Stafford in Detroit. I think we're blown away. Um, I'm with you. I could see him in Denver next season, in Washington, a number of places. Uh, And I it's not totally without wait that his wife has been popping off about the state of Michigan, about the Lions, about Detroit in general. She seems relatively unhappy with she did. I mean, I mean it's it seemed like a more of a citizen's complained about Michigan. Basically,

there's some other lockdown um antics. But uh, you know, I just maybe maybe Stafford is half the equation. Very ready to move on. Elf. I if I someone put a gun to my head and say, list your top five most memorable Matthew Stafford moments, I would struggle to But I don't like what what That's weird and it doesn't seem like this is worth it. Well, you know I'm just saying, but I put that more on the Lions than Matthew Stafford. I would love to see him

in a different uniform. I just would so Dan, I trust start crystal ball here Thanksgiving when he had all those injuries of that game against the Browns where he had the NFL films thing on the wire. They made the playoffs that one time. Oh my god, A terrible way to go. Stafford was asked earlier this month, and I thought this was interesting if he still has the patience to go through another reboot, another regime change. And he's been there. He was the number one overall pick

in two thousand nine. He's been there twelve years, and he's been a good soldier. Uh for the four it's over that time. He's played almost all the time. He's heard a little bit in the beginning of his career. I know he had the back issue last year, but

otherwise he's played every week. His answer and asked if if he would have that patience was I'm not going to limit myself to anything, which I thought was an interesting answer because it would be very easy to just give an answer that didn't give you anything to think about. But that makes you think that he's thinking about a fresh start. I like this, Greg, I like the idea of what he would bring uh to the NFL in terms of intrigue the spring too. To Cayl Shanahan offense.

Maybe um, there's a circumstance we'll check offense. I don't know sure that would be good either. One. His contracts very tradeable. People think these guys are paid a lot. In reality, I think any contract that wasn't you know that you don't have to give the guaranteed money up front. They're all good contracts. So he's under contract for a couple more years at you know, plenty of reasonable rate.

This would be a Lions type of thing where he they're putt in a tough spot before they even have a GM coach that they don't really have the you know, leverage or choice whether to keep him or not, and he's making the power play. You know that that would be problematic for them, But I also could see that time he's playing out that way. It has before. Let's move on Patrick paying a picture for you. The season has just ended. Expectations have been met by some teams

and not met by others. But the headline in Miami. Pick your favorite newspaper. It's um there's so many in Miami Beach. Miami. He not thin ish as to a tongue of viola. And the Miami Dolphins knockoff presumptive contender the Buffalo Bills in the final week of the season. S t A. Shine Finns went what shorter that time, looking into the future, seeing the southad recognizing the way things go. Dolphins underrated newspaper corps really and beat beat

writer group in Miami. You got the Herald, you got the Palm Beach Post, you got the South Florida Sun Sentinel. Most towns down to one paper one uh, you know, great local coverage. Miami still got three. Still well, you've got a lot of older people that remember the concept of reading newspapers in a younger city. There are some people that have never done that. So it's a good point and they still have them to read, which is which is keywhere That's the week seventeen game, and they

are one game behind the Bills right now. The Bills one their previous matchup this year, so obviously, for multiple reasons, Dolbins need to win. That would then be the tied and the head to head and then if they assume they're tying their final record or I shouldn't assume that they just they get in. They get in the playoffs. You don't need to win the division, gotcha. They have the toughest schedule of any team down the stretch. They do not play a losing team. They play the Chiefs,

they play the Patriots, they play the Bills. Forgetting who the fourth team is, I said, I think it's the Raiders. So that is a playoff stretch. That is a tough slate. And if they can get out of there two and two, I think is reasonable. I think you get to ten wins, and I think Brian Flores wins Coach of the Year in this deep of a field. I think they might need to get to the playoffs to sway those voters, because I think that all those Coach of the Year

votes are going to be split. I feel like the Coach of the Year might go to someone in the a f C East. I still think Belichick could get it if they make the playoffs. You gotta win out. You got Stefanski, you got Sean Payton went in with backups. You got Tomlin, you got La fleur and so you go in a lot of dude, pretty crowded field. Yeah, all right up next, Mark sess, well, I you know, I know that we UM. We've spoken at length on

during this segment. I'm gonna offer too quick um NFL business headlines that will create some issues at the end of the season. Both comes to your head, your head, Sue stop, Sue stop. No, it wasn't Stafford that got stopped. Now we're past that. Now shall I continue this? Mark Maski from the Washington Post bubble Butts Colin n f L p A votes no on Puerto Rico postseason safe space. Now when you read this, it's bubble butts b u t s as in a bubble but nice idea, but

we aren't doing it. The NFL p p A will not be into the idea of UM gathering as a playoff field in Puerto Rico after too many arguments in the United States over where that would take place and contingencies. Second quick business headline, yummy, yummy, put this game in my tummy. This one is concerning Phil Mushnick of The New York Post that that old dog he grinding. Bach Goodell says Tuesday Wednesday, Thursday games and quotes a possibility

for and beyond. You know, they're loving these standalone operations here in the middle of the fall and early winter. Games every day, mimicking baseball and football are little lives that used to be contained to simply Monday, Sundays and Thursdays. No law, younger family, chaos ahead. This will be the first season in the history of the National Football League, our league where there are games on all seven days

of the week. I was reading the New York Times a COVID nineteen coverage at four am this morning, because that's what I do now to clear my mind. And uh there was a comment that with the vaccine now ready to be rolled out and it has begun over there in the UK, congratulations to everybody there us and and hopefully uh coming here soon and it works and everybody,

we can move past this. There is a belief, according to the New York Times, that we will return to a normal life potentially by the fall of which lines up perfectly for the old National Football League potentially, uh to if they can just get through the rest of this month, through the playoffs the Super Bowl. That the way the schedule sets up, the NFL will have dodged COVID nineteen uh for the back half hopefully of this wretched,

wretched disease. Is it a disease? Whatever? We could have used our some of our fortune telling skills on actual matters such as that, but we um, we stuck with divisional races in wildcuard entries. Weird that Muchneck seemed to be addressing that headline to use specifically keep working batches. Yeah, I think so what he's sort of like he doesn't you know, he can pick and choose what he feels like covering up. He's a little cranky. Yeah, maybe he

could get a vaccine for being a horrible person. I don't know him personally, is he is? He not a fun, fun gentleman. I think if if we were to extend trash takes for you know, the duration, he would be he would be a pie on the list. Yes, he would. All Right, close this out, Greg Rosenvalk, it's a lot of pressure. Um Alright, Week Week seventeen just ended January four morning. They're still doing the New Orleans Times pigun three times a week. I believe I wish it was

every day. What a paper headline from Jeff Duncan here time to live on Taysom Hill question Mark Breezes December struggles opens the door for new QB, but he'll he'll live on comes back totally considered in this scenario. Maybe Taysom Hill starts this week against Philly, maybe it doesn't,

but either way Breeze comes back. Looks like you would expect a forty one year old human who had just had all sorts of rich Is he forty one um to to play in a in a highly competitive physical sport um with some struggles in December reopening um a order back question potentially even for a number one seed. We have this conversation. I was on The Good Show with Ben Ennis and J. D. Bunkus up in Toronto

this morning. We talked about this very topic and my take on where they're at right now with this quarterback battle or potential battle or showdown is Taysom Hill, if he plays this week against the Eagles and lights up the Eagles, plays that basically the level he played this past Sunday. It gets really interesting. I think if he if he either heads to the bench on Sunday and Breeze takes over, or he plays closer to his first two starts, I think that takes some of the air

out of the balloon of this drama. But if he lights up the Eagles, I still think Peyton goes back to Breeze because of the loyalty factor in and the fact it's almost like a Peyton Manning uh and Gary Kubiak in Matt Manning's last season when they went back to him, even though maybe you weren't sure if it was the right move. But if he does struggle and and and Peyton has that memory of those last two starts, by by taste, how could you not consider they're all

in for a Super Bowl. I mean, if you have, if you have a better option at quarterback, how can you ignore it. I think it's all about Breeze if anything. I think the way that game ended, if that happens to be last taste and start, will be a pretty bitter um taste in Sean Payton's mouth. Fumbling twice in the fourth quarter, including just a ghastly one which which

almost lost the game for them. I you know, going twenty five minutes without scoring is something I think that you know, against Atlanta, I think is something that Sean Payton is gonna remember, but I'm basing this more on Breeze that if he comes back at at his age, he's had some struggles this year and understandably looks his age off those injuries. That then that opens the door

and they're gonna have to think about it. I wonder if they've ever platoon each for like a half or something, But I don't know, Greg, it's your prediction, so you you could actually answer that question, but I'll wait for the trauma to unfold. Well, at this point, I'm just setting setting you up that Breeze has his struggles and it and it becomes very much an open question. But the struggles that that anybody could have, uh late and late in the season, Um, the struggles the easily that

that Taysom Hill could have. But as Gregg has seen the future, right, um, we don't. We already know there's not much future for Drew Brees left. And so whether it's if if we don't even see jamis right, It's kind of it's kind of presumed that, well it's it's gonna be tayso Tom right, if we don't, if we don't see James through this stretch, then then what else

would the Saints do in the absence of Drew Brees. Well, it might be a media thing too, But yeah, you're just I'm very curious to see, like, let's say that he comes back for Chief Saints week fifteen. I mean, I don't know. I'm just curious to see how Drew threes. We now, ladies and gentlemen, close the curtain, the mystical curtain, and take you out of the future and bring you back to the reality of the present. Tell no one of what you heard today, what's next. The things you've

seen are technically possible. It remains only to apply what we now know to fulfill these dreams of tomorrow. The world and beyond is limited only by the boundaries of our imagination. Today, I just got dark there. I'll think we made it. We're stuck, all right, Before we go, let's look ahead now, a little bit closer into the future. No predictions here, but Thursday Night Football, the beginning of week fourteen. And Greg, I know you are very excited

about this match. It's the battle for my household, you know, my my two kids on the opposite side of Rams Patriots. My wife started become a Rams fan. It's not gonna extinguish the memories of Super Bowl fifty three for Rams fans. But I do think it would be a nice game. Was what a memory? Um? I do think it's It would be an important hill the climb for them because

they shouldn't lose this game. They are more talented, they are more balanced, and I think if they did lose to to an admittedly frisky Patriots team, it would probably because Jared Goff was outwitted and that the Ram we're out coached. They they they have more talent, and this is a spot when you look at their schedule. They should win the NFC West if they beat the Seahawks in Week sixteen. The only way they could trip up is lose a game that you shouldn't and I would

put that into this category. The Patriots are going to try to ugly it up with with long drives on both sides of the ball, really and keep the score low. And and that wouldn't surprise me if that happens. But they they should have more. They really should have more than the Patriots. I wouldn't be shocked at this. The final score, we're kind of close to that weird Super

Bowl score that no one predicted. I mean, maybe not as severe for the Rams, but I look at the Patriots the four and one over the last five games, and even forget just the last two games, what they did to Kyler Murray Um, what they did to Justin Herbert, what Stephan Gilmour did to DeAndre Hopkins fifty five yards Keenan Allen last week forty eight yards. No receiver or n back for the Chargers had more. They they erased

that offense. Uh. And I mean, I understand that's Belichick versus rookie quarterback, but Golf, to me is also vulnerable in similar ways to Um. Excellent defensive coaching, and so I think this is a This is a get over the hump, proved people wrong game for Jared Goff, who people probably from a distance, could say this will be one where he'll hub trouble. Um. Let's see if if if that can be something different, if the storyline could be different. This is one of the few Super Bowl

rematches where a lot of the characters are gone. But I think if you're Sean McVeigh, this matters a lot to you. Cam Newton has five touchdown passes this entire season. I mean that this is a good quarterback game because Newton, despite continuing to be good with the football, running the ball and finding the end zone that way, geez, what is he going to look like in this game against

a Rams defense that is stellar? Um? That is that is a big, a big test for Newton who's struggled all season, Uh, and especially in the last month or so to move the ball through the air. And they're they're overmatched all the time though, right, I guess Jalen Ramsey gonna travel with Jacoby Meyers, right like? Um, like, so this this idea that there there there there's this mismatch talent wise offense. It's true every week. Uh, it's it's gonna come specially Yeah, it's it's certainly the case

this week. But what we've seen, Um, we saw the Flores versus Jared Goff and Sean mcveigh's situation. Perhaps if if you believe in such things, there could be a similar Belichick uh defensive performance even though they're missing most, if not all, of those guys from that defense. They've played like that in the Super Bowl. I I'm gonna

do you guys, I see a close game. Um, and the Patriots are a little bit hot, but I don't I don't really know how much mean we're how much meaning we're gonna be able to extrapolate from this from from either team, I think they're both kind of just mired in this middle and there's something missing. Squads right the way the Patriots are playing are insane. I mean, Camas career lowest for passing in their last two weeks, and it was two of their best games of the season.

He has eleven rushing touchdowns. They are they are, they are a nineteen seventies team. But the defense is why I give them a chance. Because Adam Butler is playing great Chase win of his josh Cha like they they're coming together defensively, and they could ugly this one up. And and gun Chefski is gonna do something magical. I got, I got the Rams twenty to sixteen. What do you guys?

It sounds about right. Maybe I'll steal that for the old game picks golum there that score Patriots nineteen ramst Wow, right, So there you go. Tune in Thursday and uh and we'll have a recap on that to Shorty on that as well. In addition to of course Mark and I uh Handling Ravens Cowboys duty is uh wrapping up week thirteen, so a lot of content coming your way. Thank you as always to everyone. Thank you to Patrick Claiban, the Warrior willis Reid stuff right here. Uh and we will

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