Be Around the NFL Podcast, Go Hawks go to another edition to Be Around the NFL Podcast, presented by Sirius XM. My name is Dan Hansis. I'm joined in the room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? He d go Hawks? We bring that back the Russell Wills. That's Russell Wilson ending every interview he's ever given. Go Hawks. Just there should never be a reference to Russell Wilson or the Seahawks without
that voice coming in. Go Hawks. That's a drop that the show needs. Good Man date, It's not a money intro this show needs, ever again, Ricky behind the glass, you're the gatekeeper on the money drops, right, so you choose ultimately, what what get? What compelled you to dial that up? Yeah? We are running low? All right, let's put it out there crying for help at Erica tam Pose or that Rickie Hollywood. I cat Ricky Hollywood. Okay, and Ricka Tampose is my burner if you want to
hit that one up to. Oh now they switching what it's getting confusing? Has ever taken the person using the hashtag money tags? Right? Money tags? Sure? Okay? I mean, the Ricky Hollywood account does not follow all four of us on Twitter by the way, maybe you three, but not me. So I mean I'm not even ben followed by your non burners. Rookie Hollywood unless I'm crazy? Is uh owned by a man named Ricardo Mancini. It might be, yeah, fig Ricardo Mancini is gonna get some follows off of that. Yeah,
he appears to be a Russian bot. No, it's Ricky dot Hollywood on Instagram and then tamposey NFL on Twitter. By the way, you've come from a prominent New England family, you should be able to get rid of the Italian fellow. Oh, he's on the way outdoor. Welcome to the show. It's a it's another week training camp and all swinging across the NFL A lot to get into. Um. In fact, you know, we like to think of different ways to hit storylines around the league of this time of year.
So uh uh, you know what's hot? What's like a really spicy hot situation going on in the league. What's you know, a little on the cooler side, how about this training camp in Scoville? Units want to explain that lest give it a little more detail. This is how you measure spiciness, especially in peppers, is by a Scoville unit. So for example, a hall openio might be about a thousand on the Scoville scale, a ghost pepper about a million. You don't want to mess with a ghost pepper? Have
you in your past? No? I I remember being young, like in my early twenties, and somebody being a bar with these little tiny peppers and they would always dare you to eat them, and I did try one. I don't know what kind it was, but I remember thinking it was the dumbest thing I ever did, and why was I trying to be mancho and eat a pepper? I feel like the like demand verse food shows, diners, drive ins, and die shows. Ghost peppers are now put into all sorts of dishes and then the man goes
against ghost pepper and often loses. One of those. The Internet things that kind of annoys me that I'm into is if because YouTube is as I'm sure it is with you, Mark as well as a family man and Greg perhaps you as well. The kids love watching YouTube, and so you'll you'll just come across things that you didn't expect you would. What's huge on YouTube is people eating hot stuff and then and then putting it on camera,
and it's oddly a compelling watch for me. I watch a lot of these, like how hot the wing gets? Can you go to the top level ghost Pepper Wing. It's it's kind of a strange thing to be into, but I find myself interested by that real solid worm. It's interesting. When Man Versus Food was on, I enjoyed all of the travel and seeing these cities and the food. And as soon as they did like the hot pepper challenges, I was like, all right, turning this a lot interesting.
There we go, Well, um, you know what, we all live on the marble together. It though we're not so different, but some ways we're not partly inspired. You know this segment by spice Rack, a longtime friend of the show for long time listeners moving to Los Angeles recently, and we all what we all now met him in person. I mean West had already done that previously. I have yet too, because I was party at handsas manner that I left before spice Rack showed up. Maybe that was
choreographed on his partner. The Shield Reflection ceremony was held um for everyone on the softball team and adjacent, and it was a great time. Spice Rack showed up through some corn. It's unfortunate, Greg, we have It's only fair we bring it up that we were defeated. Um, you and I buy spice Rack in West. Although we beat him a couple of times before. I think we played a total a lot of games. You know. It was
it was fun. We had a good time throwing corn, and spice Rack is uh in an interesting place in his life, so it's good to see him during this transition period for him. We played corn deep into the night. It reminded me of my type days and probably to the consternation of your neighbors, I didn't hear anything, so I'm in that since you know the family man, things are pretty buttoned up at home. I don't have a lot of parties, so I think you get that free pass for one night a year, as long as it's
not something that comes up. You did have the the instance at your house where video captured someone climbing over your front fence to try to break in. I would have loved to see someone try to climb the fence that night and try to break in and encounter like a bunch of you riled up porn hole players and spice racket knocking them out with a one two punch. Yeah, it would not go well for that individual, all right.
So yes, going back to the Seville units. Yeah, talk about the heat and the spice around training camps in the NFL. And and everyone should have their Scullville unit charts in front of them because whatever your hot take is, uh, you need to let us know where it where it sits on the meter. Fair enough enough before that, here's what we're hearing presented by Serious XM. Let's do some news, Ricky.
Everybody right now has dreams, don't they, guys. I sid it to the rookies, all right, everybody in the NFL. I have a dream of making it in the NFL. I got a dream of winning a Super Bowl. I gotta dream of being in a Pro Bowl. I'm really not into dream anymore. Okay, I'm in nightmares. You guys with me on night. You gotta end somebody's dream. You gotta take their job, you gotta take their heart, are you guys? You guys clear about this NFL. Now, we're
not trying to go to the Peach Bowl. We're not trying to go to the Gator Bowl or the Blue Bonnet Bowl. We're trying to go to the super Bowl, Okay, and to do that you gotta really try to end somebody's dreams. Are you clearing that? Ferreal? Okay? I mean that now? So get into that Raiders coach John Gruden.
That was posted by the Hard Knocks HBO Films account West West you had a rolic in good night at my house and um, at some point I remember you saying something uh negative or critical about Jon Gruden and the upcoming Hard Knocks season. So here's your platform. Well what you just heard? Did you like that? Because I think it's ridiculous and silly, and he plays the same character he played on Monday Night Football for ten years. I've just seen it all. I don't need to see
it anymore. I loved it. I can't wait. Well, I think it's fine. Perfect. The statement is contradictory because he doesn't want to talk about people's dreams to make the Super Bowl, but he finishes his comment by saying, we want to make the Super Bowl. Is that I just
ain't come up. I do worry a little because, like Bugger McFarland tweeted about it or some other form of buckets like they've heard those speeches before, of course, so you're just worry that he's just bringing back these old speeches and these are the you know, the types of motivational tactics that's helped him have bet ten games under over his last ten seasons. By the way, the Blue Bonnet Bowl has not been played since nineteen. It was
a good call though, So it's funny. If you're looking for like the funniest name, you either go with that or the weed whacker. Ball's still making butter. All right, let's get to the news bad news. The Cincinnati Bengal was once again unfortunately, star receiver A. J. Green has another significant foot injury. Last year, it was an ankle um. He suffered a sprained ankle during Bengals practice in Dayton, Ohio on Saturday. And we'll get to that in a moment.
Why that matters. Uh, it is an injury that he's not going to get surgery for, at least for now. But the best case scenario for return is believed to be seven to eight weeks, which pushes you right up against week one. And let's face it, especially when you're do with an ankle injury and a player that involved you know, speed and cutting ability and quickness, it's probably not an injury you want to rush back from either. So there's certainly a chance that Green's absence extends into
the regular season. Terrible break for Cincinnati, which just West, cannot seem to get out of its own way in the last few weeks, offensive line issues with the injury to the first round pick, and now A J. Green, the most important player is down again. They have He's missed thirteen games in his career, and the Bengals have won those games compared to the six that they have won with him in the lineup since he entered the league.
I think when you take into account his leg injuries and foot injuries of the last few years, He's turning thirty one at the end of this month, and I don't I don't know if he's the same player. I don't want to say that like the decline has set in, but next gen's that show his separation per target last
year was significantly down from his previous two years. We talked about this the Superstar Club last month, that you cut if you look at what he's done and what's happened since and even the season when he was healthy in which wasn't quite massive production that you would expect from an AJ Green. You can make that case and and the body perhaps is starting to show signs of decline. I'm fascinated by this because I think there could be a showdown between what the Bengals wanting a Green wance.
He's entering the final year of his contract. And immediately you saw the national reporters Adam after and then our Tom Pellicero and Ian rapport throughout seven to eight weeks at best, at the exact same time, Bengals dot Com was putting out four weeks. And I don't you know, you never you don't know how people are getting these information. But if I'm a J. Green, I'd be very cautious about stepping back on the field till I'm a hundred
percent healthy. When the Bengals seem very unlikely to pay him that money, and looking even further ahead, what a trade, uh, you know, deadline candidate he is. I mean, if he's in the I don't think they're gonna pay him a huge salary if they happen to start, you know two and four something I can absolutely see them trade in a J. Green. I mean it's Tyler Bordle also, who was just extended. The numbers show he's a much He's been much more productive with a J. Green on the field,
which makes some sense. I mean he I but some of those numbers were because Tyler board was playing with the backup quarterback because Andy Dalton got injured. So there's that too. I just the story of last year's Bengals was they were a quality team until all the injuries set in. And you're already there and now he is the Bengal side of this story that is, you know, only the Bengals type situation that they were practicing at Welcome Stadium at the University of Dayton. It's it's tied
into the NFL one celebration in some way. And there was a lot of talk about how terrible the turf was. Here's what Tyler Boyd had to say. Yeah, the turf was terrible. Uh, the turf was terrible. I couldn't run any routes out there. I'm falling all over the ground. It was bad. It was rocks, pebbles out there. Man. It was somewhere we shouldn't have been I'm not trying to say any excuses, but it is what it is.
And West is a former long suffering Bengals fund who still is close to a lot of people who do love the Bengals. This is exactly the type of stuff where you just kind of shake your head. I don't know enough about it to put the blame on the Bengals for this. Like you said, that's part of the anniversary. And I think a team like the Bengals has to sell regionally more than other bigger teams. I mean that's just the first things. First, it has to be a
safe playing service. But are any different things though? There's the unsafe plane service, which they shouldn't be on, and and that's one issue. But if you watch the injury, he his feet get tangled. You know, I forget the name, who's the who's the Twitter doctor who always you know, Dr Chow. I mean, if you watch the injury, it's two guys feet getting tangled. That has nothing to do with the turf. He literally trips over Dre Kirkpatrick, which
happened on a couple of plays. Just you know, that's that's bad luck. So you can blame the Bengals in the NFL. They you know, an NFL team shouldn't be playing on a bad field, but also doesn't seem to have anything to do with this. People just ran with it without even like watching it. I mean like he literally, Yeah, players played on bad fields for eighty years and everybody didn't get a torn a c L every time they went out there. I mean, it's just that's how much
do we want to baby these people? In other bad Wide Receiver news didn't that, but I like it. I mean, play on a bad field, big deal. It's not a guaranteed injury. What are we talking about here? And the show in other bad Wide receive her news Golden Tate uh his head into the shelf. A giant seem that could not possibly deal with more bad news and wider super gets it because Tate has been suspended four games
for violating the league's policy on performance enhancing substances. Um Tate is appealing the suspension, so he's trying to get it shortened or wiped out. But we'll see how that goes. It usually doesn't go well. Um Tate released a statement saying that the suspension is the result of a prescription for a from a fertility specialist Um. He asserted that upon learning the drug contained an ingredient on the league's band substance list, he immediately reported the situation himself to
the NFL prior to knowing he failed a test. UM. And we know Sterling Shepherd uh is potentially out with that broken thumb. We know Corey Colin Blew is a c L. It is not good news for I mean, it's good news if you're a fantasy football person and you want to draft Evan Ingram, who's who's lining up to have a massive season at this point along with Sequon Barkley because apparently no one else is going to. Still there's that as well, But I mean, do you ever hear a player say, oh, you know what I
did take the band substance end of conversation. It's all these eloquent, long statements that come out. And someone killed me for believing Taylor Luan. Someone on Twitter was like, because he took a lie detector tests like bro Lie detector tests are totally unreliable, like Bubba. For me, it was more the intention around taking one and showing that
he did it. But a lot of these guys seem to have deep rich back stories on why they're completely innocent around any time they get dinged, And I feel like the next c BA needs to get a little more clear on how to get some of this out of the mix. There's too many of these like stories where everyone has eight different viewpoints on what what they took in league doesn't get in trouble with some of the stuff. It's just like, I'm not on the player's side.
They're necessarily, It's just that it seems like too many agents slash players are completely caught off guard by what's in their body and whether it registers are not as a banned substance. Well, if there's two you know, punishments. Number one from the NFL, they get to spend it. Number two is PR and here's the guy who might want to meet work in media and endorsements and all that, and so you fight that on a PR level. That doesn't mean some of them don't have legitimate excuses. I'm
sure some do. It's just like it's impossible to know which ones are legitimate. But when you when you read that statement, I did wonder if he did self report and that was what he failed for, you would think that would help him reduce it on appeal, maybe to three or something like that. Just see if that, yeah, that might help him reduce it. If that's true. Giants opened one and seven in each of their last two years.
Let's do it a third time. Let's I just wonder how long how long the line is gonna be under center? Teams don't put up with losing, especially from old quarterback three weeks. Uh, let us move on. The Lions have added to a talented defensive line, Mike Daniels. A surprise cut by the Green Bay Packers lock up Daniels with a one year, nine point one one million dollar contract, almost eight million of that guaranteed. That from rap sheet and Mike Garret Folo. Daniels was slated to make about
eight million for the Packers. So he gets a nice little raise, he stays in the division, He gets to play the team that cut him twice. Uh so it sounds good, uh good good to him. The Packers have been trying to trade Daniels to either the Browns, Patriots or Chiefs. Couldn't make it happen and mark the Daniels was slated to meet with the Browns on Thursday, um or he didn't he visited with the Browns on Thursday, couldn't get a deal done. He did get a deal
done in Detroit. They couldn't get Gerald McCoy to stay and sign either. But I think, like if you look at the Lions, it's it's it's a team that I that annoys me largely, you know, years years running for lacking any sense of of an identity. But I think what they want to do if you look at Ma Patricia is run the ball endlessly and stop the run. I don't I don't know what else they offer at this point, but they've got a stack defensive line. Yeah, it's pretty versatile. I mean that is an idea. They
have a good defensive line. I mean if they all play well. Mike Daniels, Trey Flowers, Snacks, Harrison a, Sean Robinson, Deshaun hand was really good last year. Those are a bunch of beefy and versabtle guys who can kind of play inside. Now. Some of them are pretty good pass rushers, including Flowers and Daniels. So that's something the Lions have. You, right, there's not much. If I'm a Lions fan, I'm super thrilled about this season. But Daniels, and they paid him
a lot of money. That's why I didn't sign with the Browns or the Patriots, who were interested. He might get a raise from what the Packers were paying him. He might get nine million dollars. That's a lot for a guy who gets cut in August or July. And I know you don't get too excited. Marvin Jones is a very nice player. Danny A. Mendolas there, now Ricky Um. You have Jermaine Curse who didn't it didn't work out with the Jets, but now he's not a lot of
receiving talent there. But Matthew Stafford is still a great quarterback. I know he's coming off a down year. He didn't name their best wide receiver Ken Okay, sorry, Kennygala. Like I think they I think they can move the ball through the air, just coming off a bad year. I
whan they have in the past. I mean, he's like Stafford's yardage totals have never been the issue, but it's has it translated to anything my They're part of my my new theory, which is I think like thirty teams could win ten games in the NFL and they would still they would be in that there. Maybe maybe those, maybe there's maybe twenty eight. I just don't think it's that hard to win ten games if you get a couple of breaks and they're good enough, they're they're one
of those teams. You know, they're towards the bottom, but they're one of those. If I'm a Packers fan, you know you got this is a big season where you don't you are? You are? You need to turn this thing around? Am I that understanding or excited that they just moved on from Mike Daniels? Why are you depleting depth at a key part of a key part of your defense? Fails risky? When he drew so much interest
immediately after his release, you don't see that often. The Lions made another move this weekend, releasing running back Theo Riddick after six season. Rap Sheet reported this on Saturday morning. Matt Patricia, by the way, Um Daniels called Patricia genius. I just want to throw that out there. He said he was the biggest reason he signed there. It's like,
come on about that money. He was really to be quite intell, sure, but he was thinking about Mike pett and you know joining you know, he's thinking about joining the Browns rather or the Page. It's like I really it was Patricia anyway, Um, Riddick was there six years, former sixth round pick, so pretty nice career for a guy was a late round draft pick. Um. But the Lions have some real um depth at running back with Carrie on Johnson leading the way, so Riddick will move
on and hopefully find another home. He was in Denver Monday morning visiting the Broncos. This guy, he's sort of like the opposite of what Mark Ingram was early in the New Orleans career, where it was a tale every time he was on the field. The Riddick can't really run well, so he's a tell that they're gonna pass it every time he's on the field. Yeah. I mean, I know are a few weeks away from the fantasy spectacular, but if you're having early drafts, I feel like ride
that carry on Johnson train. I mean this this move. I already he seemed quite underrated in drafts for a guy who I think is a decent bed to get three hundred touch I could see it. Now carry on with carry on. I did see some I liked that a lot. I did see some fantasy advice, um unfurled by on the corner. No, no, it's this is this is Ricky Hollywood's corner. She made it clear on Twitter. I believe it was this morning that her first overall pick will be Danny Amendola, another Lions. Yeah, why not?
Why not? You know what I miss out on his career year of seven hundred yards. Uh, let's talk more business. The Seattle Seahawks and Bobby Wagner get a deal done. It's good Seahawks fan. No more drama of Earl Thomason got so ugly. But Wagner signs three years, fifty four million extension, forty two million guarantees. Uh. Twenty nine years old, becomes the highest paid inside linebacker at eighteen million a year, eclipsing the massively overpaid C. J. Mosley. Well that's what
you think. I will say that the Jets got killed for giving c J. Mosley money that no one else approached at that position. Well, now he's not even the highest paid player in his position. I know Wagner is a better player, but whatever, Brown seven and nine, Well, why did you need to go there? Like I'm not? I wonder why I did that? Uh? Wagon well, Mosley helped Wagner out, who represented himself? Is this the biggest contract the guy's ever represent you know, been an agent
for himself? You know, I was, I was thinking about that this morning, Like he he wanted to get paid more money than C. J. Mosley. If that's all you want and you you have a relationship with your team, said give me more than that guy, just a little bit more. But then I said it probably wouldn't work because in that there's so much details in the contract and you know, poison pill type stuff toward a player
that you wouldn't want to handle yourself. Perhaps he's a really smart businessman and all that stuff is avoided, but he did he truly not have anyone else going through this contract for him. He got his advice from Michael Jordan's. He spoke to Michael Jordan's said I wanted to speak to a guy who's been a player and at the owner level, and he got great and he said, my
goal was to challenge myself and educate myself. But then if you read a little bit further, Bobby Wagner was like, I just want to hear what negative stuff they're gonna say about me to my agent, and now they got to say it to my face. It seems like a personal thing to bring into business. But I get it. I mean, Michael Jordan's got that from much more successful player than a owner. He's been among the least successful owners. Could sell sneakers, but that wasn't you know, that was
his brand? Anyway, I respect Michael's you know, well, I'm sure that I okay business wise. Sure, I'm just saying wise, but not like running a team. Right, Yeah, Wagner said, like he he thinks he's already thinking about post career. He wants to own business. He's going to be negotiating all sorts of contract, he said, So who would I be if I don't have the confidence to do it myself? Hey, not to mention, he's like a Hall of Fame level player. He has a chance to make the Hall of Fame.
So that's the ultimate leverage. He's so good that that helps you point. Unless he's got a major injury, he's going He's got four first team All Pros in the last five. He was probably going to the Hall of Fame. Did Michael do his David Falk was his agent, right, he didn't do it as a player now by any means, you know, the shoe brand is doing well. I guess my point is, like Bobby Wagner, good on you, like you got into the news cycle saying I talked to
Michael Jordan before I saw him. I do. I have a lot of sports owners on speed dial, but like Michael Jordan's an owner. But it's like good for you, But it's like it's it's kind of saying no, it's like a nice flex, like, yeah, I called up Michael Jordan's to talk about my contract, But does that really didn't really help him? I'm just asking a question. I know everybody wants. Oh, great job, Bobby bringing up Michael Jordan's to nail this contract. Underrated an analysis by you.
I think it's a bit more of a flex than than we you might let on. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm just throwing it out. There's a possibility it maybe wasn't a huge help. So you know, I am just sitting I think, Um, he's like he's like, hold on, Bobby, I'm busy signing Frank Kaminsky to a huge contract. Um, every team in the NFL is zero and zero, but somebody still got fired. How about that the Dolphins making a change in their coaching staff one week into training camp.
The team announced Monday it relieved offensive Oh yeah, jumping in the fish tank and it's hot. It relieved offensive line coach Pat Flaherty of his duties and didn't make that noise sorry, and promoted analyst Oh this name Dave do gig Liamo Googs to o line coach. Rap Sheet added that Flaherty struggle to implement the new system, which has been an issue sin the spring. So I guess
there was some uh coach Flora's down in Miami. It was on their radar throughout the summer after shaky O t a s and mini camps with the new coach, and they decided to make a move one week into training camp. But this also flowers, the guy that's been around the block. I mean, he's been an offensive line coach each season since two thousand four Giants, Niners, Jaguars. Very surprising, obviously, not an earth chattering development here. It's an offensive line coach. Unless you're the old man in
New England, nobody even knows who you are. But Googs was surprising. Googs took Scarnecki's place when Scarnecki has stepped down. What I think he get? Did he get a ring? I don't know, I know, but the Patriots then immediately not bring back Scarnecki. Googs was always under fire when he was the Jets a line coach, wasn't he? Yes, that's always if you're Flairty here, you're like, hey, you expect me to make chicken salad out of chicken spit.
Look at the offensive lineman he's working with. But then me, Touns is good. And name another decent offensive lineman on that team they have they have three or four spots that are open. Yeah. They specifically said that he was struggling to communicate two players in offseason meetings about the new so like, like, what does that mean? It means like you're training implement I'll divide just you know, just like pictures. And he's probably like the same age as Belichick.
Not a great resume builder though, cannot communicate with players about new scheme. He's like become. But Mike McCoy is the offensive coordinators. Googs unfortunately or Flowerty, I should say, is two offensive line coaches. So anyway, good luck to you, h Flaherty and whatever comes next. In other news, more people losing their turned off the show. If he's listening, I said, I got time now other people losing their jobs. Former first round pick Robert kim Dj no longer a
member of the Arizona Cardinals. The team announced it released the defensive lineman on Saturday afternoon. Three seasons, the former first round pick UM struggled to stay healthy. Uh struggled to um recover from a c L injury. In fact, Cliff Kingsbury, the new coach of the Cardinals, very blunt. He's one of those coaches West that says nothing, doesn't give the beat writers anything. Ken Summers dying over here and out of nowhere. Kingsbury says that m DJ was
quote not in shape. Got a day later and he's gone. That was the book on him coming out of the draft, that he didn't really care enough about football and that was gonna be Anyone who drafted him was taking a risk in that way. It's not that he's not a smart guy. With he is a smart guy. He's got varied interests, but I think most gms want a guy
whose life sort of revolves around football. Take a look at these first round picks of the Steam, Steve climb Era kind Bomb two thousand eighteen, Josh Rosen two thousand seventeen, Hassan Reddick two thousand sixteen, Kim d J two thousand fifteen, d J Humphries two thousand four, Team Day On Buchanan who was not resigned two thousand thirteen, Jonathan Cooper who's played for about eight teams by now and been released by about eight teams, and some extracurricular activities by Steve
Kim as well mixed in. That's the disaster and that's why that's pretty impressed. Kyler Murray can be his best first round draft picked by Thanksgiving. Well, that's why if you're a player, you see like you would probably have a little feeling there's a double stand there here. But com DJ's problem was he just didn't play very well. It's like that it's a sliding scale for all of
these things. If he had performed, they gave him a lot of snaps when they could, and he really just for what wasn't there were because obviously I was getting a lot of Team DJ updates throughout his career with the Cardinals. He was playing better. But it's kind of option in the writing is typically on the wall when that happens, or it doesn't know it's it's their third coaching staff in three years, right, so to survive. That's what's happening in the news. No song, we're not getting
you guys. You guys want a song? Could be how do we we may never talk about him, all right, I'll do so. I just assume this is why we're started ten minutes late. No game feed Jack, you fell out that window, you fell down the draft board. Now you're falling right out of the league. What have you done? Kind j one? Have you done? We should be at the start, but instead you look too deep gone. You see my emotional That's what's happening in the news round.
I was just picturing you draped like very sexually over a piano like Michelle Peiper and fabulous Baker. Thank you West. We do we get a song when he signs with the new team, and he's got to get an out of I think his career is a little bit more upbeat. As long as this guy is in the league, he's getting songs. But I gotta I got a terrible feeling this will be the last week here. No, no way, our first round pick didn't do anything in his knee issues. He might get you know, picked up by somebody who
want to put it. I don't know. Yeah, I would never bet against him, DJ bro I mean it's a big it's integral to your career here, you know, as the host of the show, So you gotta be rooting for him. Worst case he gets he's in a training camp next year or something he's gotta want to be, he'll get some he get essentially route for almost everyone that's not playing in the New England area of the country. I hope Keen DJ comes back and get his career on track. Would be great for the show, great for
my songwriting. But there's no promises in the National Football League. I'd like to see him up in Foxboro. We like people with you know, varied interests, position, flexibility. Does sound like a guy that Belichick would get cut. All right, let's get to it now. Yes, Scoville units. Everybody's talking about Scoville units. You can't go you can't turn a corner on the internet and not hear about Scoville units.
What are the hot stories, what are the spicy stories, the spicy scenarios, the spicy takes, the spicy, spicy, Greg Rosenthal, you're all about the spice life. Get us going. I'm all about the spice life. I don't even know where
to go with that. Let's start with Kyler Murray Uh in his first few days at Arizona Cardinals training camp, and it really struck me watching his interview with Warner yesterday on Inside Training Camp Live on Sunday, Uh just how smart he was, and like, I don't know, if I was a Cardinals fan, I'm watching that interview, I would be getting very excited that this is this is
the guy leading our team. But even more exciting was the quotes from Larry Fitzgerald about Murray Uh when struck me and he said, I've never seen a quarterback coming so quickly and be able to command an offense. I mean, from day one, he's out there checking the different plays, sliding the line, different projection protections, getting us in screens
when blitzes are coming. His understanding of the offense is crazy, and it got me thinking how he's kind of played in this offense or some similarity to this offense before, And you know that's that's the whole idea behind the Cliff Kingsbury Kyler Murray thing. And isn't that a good idea to like make your number one overall draft pick as comfortable as possible and make a system around his skills and that maybe he's going to be able to you know, fight pass or kind of skip those early days.
Uh that a lot of rookie quarterbacks go through where he's not comfortable and he can start out a quicker. And that's why I'm giving this a unit of five hundred thousand on the Scoville sit scale. That's right around chocolate, Havin Yerrow chocolate. I think we're working on different scales. Yeah, the scale that i'm does not go that high. Like a I have different going off the one, the Serrano, the Surano. It's in the Serando area Serrano. This is
how they described Serranto. Don't mistake the Serranto for a hallapanio. Your mouth will be on fire. They look similar in appearance. The Serranto is twice as spicy. I totally agree with you. This is I take a lot out of that quote. Yeah it's spicy, but to make it clear, this is pretty high up on the spicy. He's gonna he is going to really I think set the league on fire. I think this is gonna work out and kim bomb for all of his failures and let's call them for
what they are in recent years. He's gonna get what Mike mccagnan thought he was gonna at when he drafted Donald. He'd get the extra years. I think Kime might come out of this, although I don't I wouldn't put Clime at the top of the list of people who made this happen. This is this, But the reason I always thought that this was a possibility to move on from Rosen and pick Hylom really was because of Cliff King's break From day one, this felt like a real deal.
And those comments, I don't know what the Fitzgerald that those are new, but he also said similar stuff during O T A S where they talked about long time veterans looking utterly lost on offense because they had never seen anything like this scheme at the NFL level. And Murray from the start has been a teacher and perfectly fluid,
which to your point makes the pick so sensible. And I think we have to also remember when you're running four wide NonStop and you add his mobility, this is someone that's going to devastate defenses early on in the year who are trying to catch up to what's going on here. And then very much lower on the scale, but also in Arizona, maybe a little tie pepper, you know, very low, Keshan. They drafted three rookie receivers. Two of
them got a lot of attention. Only one of them is playing with the first team keys, the new Keyshan Johnson sixth round pick, playing the head of Andy, Isabella and Hikima. Relation with the starters, I don't think so spelled very different, So chocolate Abnero for I'm just throwing that in a little extra that we're on the same page on the Scoville and that's important. That's a vital Yep, we're all on the same page. Mark your up next.
I am going to as I readjust to pick the new uh, I'm gonna go red Savina have an arrow pepper, which is a registered scale of three hundred and fifty thousand to five hundred and seventy seven thousand on the scope right beneath. Because I think there's some stuff to figure out here, but I am all on board with you know, we saw the Patriots lose the Super Bowl and then come back to next year and take care
of business. The Eagles last year had an off season, and I think they're gonna come around this year and they're gonna win the NFC. I have them going six and o to start the year, and are talking about Carson Wentz right now, and if you read with the daily reports coming out of out of Philadelphia that Carson Wentz looks completely differently, much more comfortable this time of year. His health is back, and they he is doing well. With Sean Jackson, I think they talked. They talked about
Jordan Howard playing very well early. They've got a lot of depth in the backfield. They've got a great offensive line. Love their defense. They've got the best two tight ends in football. I think they're gonna be both of them a lot to handle for for defenses. And I think you've got one of the best owners in the NFL right now, and Jeffrey Lury, who is super committed to winning, will do anything they can. They're an analytics based team.
I love the whole Howie Roseman situation. The Eagles to me, are the hottest thing in the NFC. I think the Cowboys in that division. That division is a hot mess outside of Dallas. And I like the Dallas is in there because it keeps you on your toes. If you're the Eagles too, you gotta you can't just roll through like the Patriots do. You're gonna have some competition in the NFC East. But I'm saying Eagles super Bowl. I'm telling you right now, yours is more a hot take.
It's not a hot take. It's a hot pepper. Third, now, how many other teams are you going to predict to win the NFC this year to five? But I I just think that there's there's some feel around them already, if you know reading what the beat writers are pretty day after day. I just think if I'm an Eagles fan, I'm very very confident going into the season. With all due respect, and I agree with you, I think the Eagles are gonna be very good. That is not a
very hot take. This is an NFC superpower. I think a lot of people think they're gonna be good. I'm gonna drop I'm gonna drop you all the way down to the Hungarian pepper. Five thousand to ten thousand school billions, Well, stick seven of those in your mouth and see what happens. I'm sorry, you can't. You cannot put it up in the top tier. You can't do it. Well, I I the third highest. So it's not like I went for
the ghost pepper. Their streets are talking. It might be more even like a pepper and Chenie alright, that's right near the bottom. Alright, Well, I'm not sure I'll understand like the segments far as the training camp news part of it, this is, this is why we should talk about these things before the show, but I thought it was more specific to players. So Paris Campbell is a guy who's getting a lot of consistent hype ever since
the Colts drafted him. And Frank Reich just told Albert Breer this week basically, you know, you saw the videos of the Colts draft room, and that was mostly our scouts and defensive players. The one guy I wanted. I jumped up and down when we took Paris Campbell because I said, we gotta get this guy. Everyone thought he was just a slot receiver, and Frank Reich said, we thought he's a legit NFL receiver. Footwork, hands, route running, intelligence, the kind of person he is. We just think he's
a total wide receiver. And then he starts playing in in the training camp. And now Frank Reich says, Paris Campbell is a legit NFL. I'm gonna be a stud receiver. Play. These are the plays he's running in the red zone. Not just a slot receiver. He's he's making big plays in the red zone. To me, the Colts are one of the most exciting team in the league, and this guy is gonna be one of the most exciting rookies in the league. Let's see what kind of Scoville I've got.
I have one in mind. I want to hear what you come on now. I was writing that zone. I was gonna throw out Sabasco fifty thousand Scoville units. And I take kay in daily and it's it's hot, but it's it's tolerable. Well, you're only taking a little dash of it, correct. I mean, I'll put it on you, put kay in on anything. It tastes good. I don't like, just take the jar and just dump it into my throat. Necessarily, most people mix up with other spices. Right um, all right,
let's move on. I want to talk about Darius. Guys. You know, tough times in Washington right now with the Redskins, who the Alex Smith injury kind of just set that whole organization back. Not just not so much because Alex Smith is a you know, a superstar quarterback, because he's not, but it just kind of knocked him on their ass, that seemed. And they go and they get the kid quarterback, um,
Dwayne Haskins. Uh. And what you kind of forget is that guys had a lot of great buzz last summer and then he pops his a c L in the first UM preseason game out for the season. Now, I'm not gonna draw parallels too. Um what r G three and Albert Morris did together as fellow rookies, and I almost look at guys as a rookie Albert out? What did I say? He said? Albert alf alf alf Morris?
Excuse me? Alf Morris was his name? Alfred Alfred Morris? Alt? Yes, remember when they came into the league and r G three lit it up and Morris, Uh, he killed it. I don't know if we're gonna see that, but I think Geis is a guy to keep an eye on, uh, and something to get excited about if you're a Redskins fan. Right now, all you hear about is Trent Williams and the drama going on with their star left tackle, which doesn't seem to be getting any better, by the way,
with each day. Uh So keep an eye on guys who already is practicing. And he had a hamstring injury that you know, combine that with the a c L injury, and people were saying that he is injury prone. I saw that you would. Uh you mentioned this and wrote about this in your latest column on training camp. Uh,
winners and losers. I really enjoyed, uh this SoundBite from Darius Guys on the idea that he is injury prone, because you know a lot of people talking about now I'm injury prone and this and that man only had one injury that was big and my whole career one the biggest injury I've ever had my career is at a c O. Yes, y'all heard about hamstraining this and that, but that comes from the a c O, not just for me not taking care of myself. How can you
call somebody injury prone has had one big injury. Do y'all know what injury prone means? That means somebody that has different injuries every other day and cannot do nothing. I had one big injury, so man kissing, and I want to point out two things. First of all, he said that to Darren Hayes, who works for w USA
and nine, So I want to give Hayes credit. I don't know if you notice this, Greg Hayes, who did a nice job sensing that guys wanted to get something off his chest, set him up, then got out of the way. And then I want to give credit to and check this out on Twitter. Maybe I'll retweet it
so it's easier for listeners to check it out. We'll get props to the cameraman of w U s A nine who had the wherewithal to as guys got into his monologue, pan the camera over and emmy alert slowly, slowly beautifully guys as he continued his ran, ending with kiss my ass or whatever. It was great, great points. I didn't even think about that. But what you need if you're a director cameraman like that as you need
a star. So you gotta give guys a lot of credit for doing the Nate Burlison, Michael Irvine look in like fiery, look straight into the camera like I don't know, we haven't even really learned that. Yeah, we've been trying. This stuff has a veteran production. It was everybody did their job in a great way. But yeah, guys, it's gonna be a run friendly Redskins team because we assume Haskins will start all the games or most of the games, and they're gonna want to work him in. So I
like guys as a player this year. I like him as a personality. It's a spicy personality, clearly, So I'm gonna give him on the Scoville scale. I mean, he's not out of control, but he's a Scotch bonnet. He's a one hundred thousand to three fifty thousand. Uh So that's that's his new nickname. I think Scotch bonnet. A lot of Scotch bonnet and in Caribbean cooking, Jamaican particularly there you go. How long are you? We always talk about, We joke about when Eric has gonna leave us, When
is West leaving us to start his own restaurant. I feel like this is gonna happen. So much easier to just cook for yourself and then not have any responsibility. Shout out to Dan for another great job barbecuing a big group of people. Always what are we to meet? He just drops it down. He just comes over with fifteen thousand pounds of meat and just drops it and
just says, Okay, see later. If I'd like to use a football analogy, but since at the party I used the baseball one, I'm kind of in the kind of the Harold Baynes type. I know he went to the hall and didn't deserve it. Um, but a guy, you know, a really nice guy. A guy has a really nice career and doesn't look doesn't look for accolades, just does his job day and day out, does it for a
long time. I'm the Harold Baines of the grill. I think it's excessively manly to grill for a large number of people like you, like you have done so seas. I got some cheese. It was great. Keep it simple. I'll give you Danny Tartible. That's that is horrible. Wait, he had a he had a prime in Kansas City before they. I'll give you Mackie Sasser. Maggie's Asser would
not be a good one. Alright, one more time around the horn, Greg, I'm just trying to think of someone that's like a workman like hitter that just needed more at bats because I think you're selling yourself short. I mean, if you if you got even more time behind the grill, actually a time to shine. But I don't want that. See, that's what I just wanted to come to work every day and do what's asking me and turning down endorsements. Yeah, I want to bat like fifth or six in the lineup.
I'm going to drive in a hundred runs, but you don't need Yeah. I'm a Matt Suwey type all the way, with an occasional start start including including like your obsessions off the field that yeah. Uh. Let's go to on New England where I'm going to talk about a New England Patriots receiver by the name of Maurice Harris. You haven't heard much about him. Well, he's an undrafted, uh, guy who is with the Redskins for three years. Was
a returner, more of a special team's guy. I don't know, um if I feel good about this, but basically everyone who's watched four or five days of Patriots training camp says he is the best receiver on the team, and according to Greg Barnard of the Boston Sports Journal, and a few others Evan Laser, who used to work here, a few others that say, and it's not even close. Mari Harris is by far the best. I'm gonna give
this Pablano. That's it's pretty close to the bottom. That's one thousand, because Okay, I'm looking at this news and I'm thinking, Mo Harris, you know what, He's probably gonna help the Patriots win a couple of games this year. That's just what's gonna happen. That being said, it's very early in training camp, and it doesn't speak well for the rest of the group that Maurice Harris right now is their best way way too spicy. I gave Maurice Harris in this bit of news a slice of plain
white wonder bread with an orange cream sickle. That's how hot it is. Here's the thing, though, I wouldn't have thought. I would have thought he would have maybe been even a long chat to make the team. Now I feel like this guy's making the team, and based on all this, I'm like, you know what, he'll probably be a nice little He'll be a nice little role player that will do some things on special teams. He'll probably make some big plays in a big game that will make me
appreciate him. But he's not gonna be there number one beating like huge plays today. I'll put I'll put a sandwich on that that he make the team. But the beat Runners are plugged in because in the second half last season forty catches four thirty two yards touchdown. Oh wait, no, that's his entire career in three years. He could have cracked the Reds confrontation with Josh Docson and Trey Quinn. I don't know, man, this sounds like training camp trophy
now it is. Oh yeah, It's too bad that the offensive geniuses in Washington couldn't figure out how to use it. I wonder if they could have a better use of him in New England. Turn on your Marie Harris film and he's the guy not making play, A nice little special team er, third receiver five d and seventy yards four touchdowns. I bet he ripped it up a Northern Guildford high school. He's like he hopes to be as
good as Jabbar Gaffney. I mean, Jabbar Gaffney was on a team that scored thirty four points in the a f C champion Jabar. That was his brother Roche. I always confuse they would have won that damn Super Bowl. They didn't win because their best receiver was Jabar. I don't know. They scored thirty points in the a f C Championship game. Their defense wasn't lousy. Please alright, Mark,
you gotta hand out a little fatale pepper. Now this this is a yellow pepper typically in its coloration, but I'm making it green in this exercise because it's going to Sam Donald. And I know that you're going to think that I'm just pumping him up because it's another bit of psychological warfare between Dan and I. But I actually feel like Jets fans. You know, we watched Quentin Tarantino's movie, and I won't give any spoilers away, but there is a snippet inside of it of Joe Namaths
nineteen seventy films CC and Company. It's a biker epic starring and Margaret and Jets fans like look at that and say, yes, that's my quarterback. And when it was made in nineteen seventy, he was the center of the NFL universe, and Jets fans have had nothing to root for at the quarterback position. Since you got a bunch of people still walking around and Joe name, it's your jerseys. Well, things are changing, and I think that this is an arrow up for s Star and baby Let's I'll tell
you why he was last year. I thought in one of the worst NFL offensive schemes around, where they ran the ball heavyly. Sure he did. They ran the ball heavily on first and second down and put him into more third and long situations than almost any quarterback in the league, a terrible situation for a rookie quarterback. I like their wide receiver corps if they can stay healthy. They've obviously got Levy on Bell, You've got some players on defense, You've got a great safety the Jets. To me,
I am not just saying this. I would not be surprised at all if in weeks seventeen they were alive for a wild card spot. I don't think that they're gonna be some floundering five wins, six win thing, tugging s Starn around from place to place. It's gonna be
a different type of team. I feel like you're if you look a lot, a lot of people are picking him in that seven to nine range, seven and nine range, so you're you're maybe flipping those numbers will kind of be more than It's like a would have to go right, but it's I think it can go right. Cessler has joined the battle, the psychological warfair. I don't think because I like, for me, the idea that that Donald is just gonna be a middle tier quarterback that takes eight
years to warm up. I don't believe that. I think he's going They've already talked about and I know it's Josh McCown who's his friend, But was that practice and he's looking at him as an analyst now he said that he saw markedly better footwork, just a much more comfortable player that was this weekend. Adam Gaze is not a perfect coach, but he does a lot for quarterbacks, and I think he will for Donald when Donald gets almost overlooked in terms of like the entertainment value that
he can bring, Like he is a toolsy guy. I mean he could be a better you know, can move, has a big arm, can make any throw, like a more fun hopefully better Jay Cutler for you. I think that Adam Gaze rightfully as a guy gets killed, like who is he really a quarterback whisper of Adam Gaze, I should say, did I say Jay Cutler? You said, oh my god, but Jay Cutler he made a little bit better. Um, but he hasn't really done much. You're not gonna give him any credit for what Peyton Manning
did in two thousand thirteen. Before I make any decision on whether Adam Gays can coach offensive, I want to see if he does this year because I think there are tools there and I think Donald, especially in a year two leap guy, um is this is where I think Gays will be judged. And if he bottoms out, you talk to some people. I've been talking to some people. Maybe he's not you know, a guy that is gonna be around very wrong long gaze. Maybe he doesn't have
a lot of security there. He maybe can't. He won't survive a really bad year uh in year one. So I think there's gonna be pressure on to immediately get this offense going in the right direction or you can see a change. But I'm looking forward to it. I don't think this is a you know, super Bowl team are necessarily a playoff team, but I expect them to be five or better. I think you should all right
West July, August, September. That's Smokey season, Smoky Brown. John Brown draws more camp hype than just about any receiver no matter what team he's on. And last year, before Joe Flacco was benched, John Brown was on pace for over a thousand yards. He was their best red zone receiver. He was gonna catch seventy eight passes. And now he's in Buffalo where the quarterback has a stronger arm than Joe Flacco and turned to some guy named Robert Foster
into a legitimate deep threat last year. Now John Brown is the deep threat. He's also the intermediate threat because he's a really good route runner. He's also a red zone threat because he's slippery and elusive in the red zone. And he's gonna be easily the best weapon on this Bill's offense. Might not go cap sasan fifty million school Scoville units, but uh, we're going ghost Pepper million Scoville units.
For the Josh Allen to John Brown connection here would be in my fear if I'm a Bills fan or someone that's not totally sold on Alan yet as a prospect, John Brown stays healthy Smokey just blowing the top off over and over again, and the pass the sale over his head or down the sideline, and he carries him out of bounds before you can get a second foot in. Maybe the ball gets throwing a double coverage. I is
he a guy? Is Josh Allen ever gonna be a guy that can develop into a downfield passer with accuracy that you needn't? Down Field accuracy is the issue, man? Why do you gotta just have a stray there? For Robert Foster, undrafted rookie putting up five and fifty yards? He was athletic. I like Robert Foster, and you just he's sort of a one trick pony, go run fast deep. Just saying he outgained a lot of guys taken in the first round. I guess I'm saying West. We know
he could throw it, throw it forth? Can he throw it where he wants to throw it? Well? Analytics have him as a better deep thrower than deep thrower than Joe Flacco was last year. That's pretty good. What about Joe Flacco five years ago? That I don't know. I did not see the analytics on that, but I'm saying I didn't. You're right, if John Brown stays healthy, he's gonna be a problem. That's always We love Smoky this We've always been supporters. Huh, I just can't stay healthy.
You like the You like the Bills a little bit. I do. I think the frisky like I think they're frisky. I think the Jets and the Bills are frisky. I thought what you were gonna say when you were saying it's down to the last week for the Jets is like that divisions up for grabs, which I wouldn't shut Surprise me? Is that that surprising that the Jets and Bills and the Patriots would all be in the mix at the ends. The Jets were in the mix like a couple of years ago with Ryan Fitzpatrick as their
quarterback in Week seven, like it happens. It's not that crazy. They weren't. They weren't in contention for the divisions about Week sixteen. Yeah, they only lost that division by two games. And I actually I agree with you because they beat the Patriots in Week sixteen. In for I don't think it's crazy. It's just said, why why would I in late July come trumpet about the Patriots losing the vision. Let's settle down on that finally. I mean, let's wait
until Maurice Harris is number one receiver in November. I can't wait to rout on every time Where's Harris makes a catch all season. I'm just gonna stand up and put my fifth right into his face. It's gonna be like August sixteen, and the headline is gonna be Edelman's back a week later, you never hear Maurice Harris's name again. This will be fun to track. This has to be a sandwich problem, Maurice Harris. Oh yeah, either now or
in a month. Something has to be put down. But you might have Greg on the hook right now because things could change in a month. I'm just I'm not getting involved in anybody else's sandwich. Oh I said it is gonna be a nice role player. Well, you said Danny ammondol is gonna have a career high seven hundred yards.
What if we put that as the over under for his No, that was that was a joke that if she's taking him number one overall, she could if she could hope for Danny am Doola's best season ever be seven. How much is this impact player gonna do if he's not gonna get seven. I told you it was four and some nice special teams play. Well, why don't even
talking good about it? We couldn't do rely because like the Patriots are you guys are saying that this is the like an undefeated, unbeatable team, and their tap wide receiver right now is Mari Harris, And I thought that's kind of interesting. Right now, I'll give you I'll give you some issues, all right. We couldn't finish this segment on the Scoville scale without going to the top, all the way to the top. We needed it one point four million to two point two million. Yeah, you know
what I'm talking about. Carolina Reaper getting a lot of high plately in the Pepper Pepper universe. Chicago Bears kickers competition. Listen to this from the Chicago Sun Times. Elliott's small fry. He made six or seven field goals Saturday. You know what he said, I want to try sixty yard or I have all the all this bad energy around the Bears in their kicking game, going back to the playoffs last year, set me up at sixty banks split the upper it. What about crazy Eddie Piniero What is he
gonna do? Is he gonna will Is he gonna wilt in the summer heat? What do you think is he gonna will? Yes? He had also had six or seven Matt Naggy, coach of the Bears. He said, hey, small fire, I just said from sixty Nagi called it a dealer's choice. Coaches asked Paniero, did you want to try the sixty yarder? This is what Panniero said. Nah, you guys hit sixty yesterday. We're going sixty three today and you know what happened.
Drilled it stick splits the uprights with distance to spare. Mentally, I was just staying, come, I know I had to do my job. My job is on the line every day. The crowd of eight thousand, eight thirteen chanted his name at Oliviette Nazarene University. I've never seen so many people cheer so loud in a practice before. Pinnierro said, I've heard it in a game, but in practice, it's unreal. Carolina Reaper nothing well, number one. If I'm the Bears, I keep both of my roster and just use them
interchangeably in games. Just a toy with the and then what would be better for football and life in general. Then the Bears will get that playoff win next year and it comes from a seventy yard overtime game winning kick and you just say, f you kicker issues. I have another idea. Maybe their top ring defense shouldn't give up an eighty five yard touchdown drive with the game I kind of got left. How about this idea. You obviously have two guys in frying Panniero that won't miss.
There's a lot of risk, especially Rabiski. You don't know throwing red zone interceptions. Every time you cross the fifty. I don't care if it's first in tent. You bring out the kick, you bang next? Have you hit about seven sixty yard ors? Do the math twenty one point? Your defense handles, arrest, take it home. That's football. It's spicy. Do you know what it's called the Reaper? Why because it has a tail, as because it's killed people that
I would have thought it led to death. In April two eighteen, a case report of quote thunderclap headaches in at thirty four year old man who was hospitalized for a few days after consuming one Carolina Reaper pepper in a contest don't do that stuff, guys. Thunderclap. Headaches do not sound thunderclap. That sounds like that's scenario right now for the opponent after what's going on in camp. Absolutely no doubt, a very possible good news a bear's camp
around the Kickers. There hasn't been much of that in a long time. Alright, there you go, good school bill talk. Uh, we'll be back Wednesday with another show, so make sure you check it out. Also, um, you around the NFL subreddit check it out. We're on Twitter. Oh. We also how about some iTunes reviews, rate and review five stars and then leave a review and maybe, uh, when things slow down a little bit, maybe on a Friday, we'll
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