Sounds and News from Annual Owners Meetings

He often would not put the sunscreen on his dome. We're gonna have Daniel Jeremiah in later this week, went on Wednesday and yeah, famously west just burned the hell out of the top of game with Lakeisha Padre's Cardinals game a few years back. And yeah, I think that's one thing. The guys that shave their heads or just bald um. You know sometimes you have the horseshoe bald guys. But you don't see that so much anymore by the

way that human heads are evolving. Remember, used to you look older if you just it's like I'm banging them bald. And now they have this like math teacher a ring around which, by the way, if you're listening and you have that look, I'm not taking shots. I'm just saying you don't see it, grow up a little and just shave the road. You can get with the times. It's not a death sentence being bald. You shave it. And like West is a perfect example, nice shaped head. I

thought he looked a lot better once he went. He was fully short and compared to the photos we saw when he was younger and losing it. What was up with um? Like friars, remember their haircuts. They've got a full head of hair and that shave the top of the head. I don't know what we're doing. There is a disgrace. Is it to make yourself less attractive? So you're not tempted if you're in that position, I guess. I mean, if that's the history, it's pretty messed up,

but it probably worked. The ladies are into friars. No, not typically all right, where are we? We are? We are not Tuesday, Tuesday? We're Tuesday. We are not at the Hotel UM, the builtmore in Phoenix, but that's where the NFL annual meetings are UM this week also known as the owners meetings, and you know the timing of the show. And I think I might have said last week that DJ was going to be on our Tuesday show. No be on the lookout tomorrow when we roll out

a DJ special to today. We decided there was so much, so many little nugs, big and small that came out of the Monday owners meetings. Greggy, why don't we just dig through it and kind of cull through the sound Because I don't know about you, Greg, but I as the day went along on Monday into Tuesday, it struck me that it felt a little more newsy than the typical owners meetings. And we got the rules. Although the rules were less newsy, I feel like then you're a

most playful. There are a number of issues sort of hanging around at this time of year that aren't necessarily that we're waiting for some big ones to drop, but a lot of little nuggets. So these were like my favorite sort of news days or its just but if you take away if you take away the dual quarterback narratives that have been hanging out right, the Lamar and Aaron Rodgers, if you removed all of that, then be normal. I would say, YEA even less than normal. I think,

I think that's just like these dramas continue. There's little there's news each day, there's new developments each day. You got Lamar tweeting left and right, you got you know, dropping his tweets right before John Harbaugh talks. I mean, it was transition point right there. Yeah, let's get into all the news from Phoenix and beyond. Wow, the organization's worth that much? And you know I couldn't get free coffee,

that is, of course. I mean, who else is gonna be but Mike McDaniel, head coach of the Dolphins, who was answering a question about the Washington football team who he was connected with at a point in his career, and I guess he didn't get free coffee when he was there. Read into that however you want. I mean, I'm just reading in the facts. Who doesn't get free coffee at work? An NFL team that's about to be sold for six billion dollars. It's happening, Washington fans. You

only have to hang on for it. Sounds like maybe like even only a month more. There's reports of two different bids over six billion, which is what Snyder was looking for the long rain is almost over. Not just I know people were hoping it might happen this week, but it doesn't sound like it's going to be this week. But but it really feels like this offseason. We'll circle back to Washington just a little bit later. But let's start where we have to start, which which is Lamar Jackson.

So the way this timed up was as the coaches settled in and you guys have been at the Great Mark, Paint a picture the owners meetings and specifically the coach's breakfast as it's known. Yeah, you have the AFC one day and the next day with the NFC or they'd flip up that, and you've got sixteen round tables with chairs around them so that each of the coaches can sit down for an hour, and a lot of them have come from about three or four hours of sleep

after a late night of drinking. That's sort of what happens at these owners meetings too, and they're barraged by their local beat reporters and national reporters with questions of the day. In Harbaugh, you know, sat down literally at the moment like Lamar Jackson had just sent out this tweet that we'll get into about his whole situation. I think two minutes after Harbaugh said that, right and probably

not a coincidence well planned. But here is the tweet that Lamars sends out just as John Harbaugh sits down in regards to my future plans, and they set up. I like it, give me some missive music. This feels miss to be great. Set. I wish he used a colon after plans though, but we won't talk him in regards to my future plans. As of March second, I requested a trade from the Ravens organization, for which the

Ravens has not been interested in meeting my value. Any and everyone that has met me or been around me. I love the game of football and my dream is to help a team win the Super Bowl. There's an extra there's a little more to that. Okay, yeah, but you get the gist, yeah, Greggy. Then, of course Harball is asked about it. Do we have Harball sound? Here's what Harball had to say on the topic. We made a decision to go with Lamar Jackson five years or right?

Why because we love him. We love him and we love the way he plays. We love his mindset, his charisma, his style. Either way he's in the locker room, everything about him. We love him. I love him personally. I love being the coach and the team that he's playing quarterback for. So that's what you do, you know, you build a team around on your players, and that's what I'm excited to do. Lamar is a great guy, and Lamar's doing a nice job with the negotiations, and I

think that needs to be said. People need to understand he's doing a good job, okay, and Eric's doing a good job, and Eric's getting advice from Ozzi and from Steve and all those things are being discussed. Yeah, I'm involving in those conversations too, so I know where we're at. There really is no frustration other than the natural normal. Hey, this is how pro football works, you know. And I think you know, Lamar believes in us, and we believe in Lamar, and we know where we want to go forward.

So it's a monetary thing that can be figured out. That can be worked out. That's just a matter of negotiating, and I think we just continue down that road and eventually it'll get it'll it'll work out. There's all you gonna being creative ways to figure that stuff out. Yeah, my takeaway from Harbaugh the way he approached that was, even though Lamar's out here saying trade me, there still does seem a path forward between these two teams. It's

still a financial situation. And quite frankly to me, Greg, the fact that no team has emerged and aggressively sought out Lamar is the best possible situation for Baltimore. Who I think do want to stay in business with the quarterback? Ultimately?

Well they better. What else are they gonna do? They don't have anything they got snow Huntley who I'll tell you what they would do if if if he did end up leaving the team, they'd probably take a reset year and then attack the quarterback position, either this draft or the next first round pack. But John Harbaugh was close to losing his job when Lamar Jackson showed up and saved it. I believe John Harbaugh wants Lamar Jackson

to be there with every fiber of his being. It's not really up to him, and so I agree with with your takedown that he's trying to keep the lights on. But we're all in a hurry because we all cover this each and every week. But there's really nothing other than the draft coming up. That's a flash point here for Lamar, and maybe we should do However, flashpoint should

almost lift the veil on something that's about happened. This is happening, but also to drive through the executive producers of the project, which is you and I. I also would have liked to hear the Flashpoint theme song there. He kind of missed you. I guess point in raising that with the with the Ravens zoh is at some point in the draft is kind of that point if we get past it and he's still on the team, the Ravens are truly, like truly need him more than

they than he needs them. Now. He wants the contract, he wants everything that comes with it. But I think we've seen with Lamar Jackson, and I think they know this too that I actually think he would stand on principle and just not play. And they they are in a tough spot too. It's been almost talked about that it's like a money thing. They don't want to pay

the money. They're not going to pay the money. Lamar's being stupid about the money, but they need him as a player, and so that I'm not really sure how that gets worked out here and we'll see if another team steps. I'm with you in the sense that there is a storyline here where we get to the summer and this is not figured out and Lamar Jackson does not play this season. I just think it. I don't

think you tweet out everyone loses. Let's just be clear, everyone loses, including Lamar if that's how this plays out, a great athlete in his project. If a couple months ago, if we had said Lamar Jackson is going to be available in a trade, I think the common understood theory would be that a bunch of teams would come running. Haven't you have instead the opposite where it's like you have Jim Rsey, who the Cults have been the most logical landing spot right. Jim Rsey during these owners meetings

said I am not interested in this guaranteed money. I'm interested in paying him and we can find a way to make a fair deal. But the guaranteed money is a real sticking point with these teams. They don't want to do it. And you know, it's funny because it's like Laramie Tunzel signed that contract a couple of weeks ago, and to me, he never had an agent, and I

never really you didn't really even notice that. I'm noticing it with Lamar Jackson, the idea that he is operating agent free and that he shouldn't have had a deal a year ago, if not two years ago. Josh Allen has made sixty seven million dollars over the last two years, Lamar Jackson twenty five. But they were drafted in the same class, right, Well, Josh Allen made what twenty million dollars more off the top of it because he was drafted.

That's fine, it's because he's got a second deal with an air of that story too, is that the Ravens were not giving Lamar Jackson anything close to Josh Allen's contract at the time, which now looks like a great deal for the Bills. But that was the whole reporting, was that they weren't offering anything close to the market deal at the time. I mean, I'm with you, it's all a mess. It might be different if he did have an agent, but I think at this point, like,

but then he's also got this there. You know, this is the problem because you with this Ken Francis figure who emerges from the mist, who is contacting teams a week ago on behalf of Lamar Jackson, which is against league rules. And ultimately I know the problem, Like the league seems to not be doing too much about that kind of thing, but that's the kind of thing to good,

null and void the concept of a deal. Yeah, questioned too, okay, but it's I mean, teams are concerned about like the fact that Lamar Jackson's being contacted through others by other people, Like that's not how he's meant to act on his own behalf. He's the only person who should be talking to these teams. I guess my thing is just like everyone's in a hurry for all us, and like I'm more willing to like see what we're where we're at the after the draft, because they're reporting in terms of

the cults that they're very open to it. Like to me, sounds like at some point they're gonna make an offer. I would think it's more likely than not to that point. Transition. So, since Lamar dropped that tweet, that became obviously a talking point and maybe would have been either way, but especially once Lamar puts himself in the news cycle in a pointed way like that. So Jim Ursay, the owner of

the Colts. He was asked about Lamar, and of course when you talk about Lamar, it connects immediately to what is said to be Lamar's ultimate driving goal is to get a fully guaranteed deal, and Ursa had this to say, as an owner, I do not believe in fully guaranteed contracts. I think that a percentage is one thing, but from what I've seen from the NBA and Baseball, I don't see it as a positive competitively. Now on him play something.

Pete Carroll, who was asked about Lamar Jackson and whether Lamar, former MVP twenty six years old, was ever considered before they made the decision to move forward with Gino Smith, it was Lamar Jackson ever considered an option for you guys. No, I couldn't imagine it would be available, and we couldn't afford him. Couldn't afford him. And then I'll just because it connects to the other big story. Joe Douglas GM

of the Jets was asked about Lamar. Would he be a fallback player if the Aaron Rodgers negotiations dragged out to a point where the Jets felt like they needed to pivot yeah. Well, first of all, Lamar Jackson's a fantastic player. But where we stand is it would be disingenuous and operating negotiating a bad faith if we went down that path. So right now we have our plan,

we have our process, and we're sticking to that. And finally, I'll read a quote from Jimmy Haslm, the owner of the Browns, because so much of this is the ground zero is what happened a year ago with the Shawn Watson. Jimmy Haslm, you always wonder, I wonder, like if the Browns could do it again, would they do it like right here, right before we even know if if Watson will ever be a player of that level again, would

they go through it all again. Here's what Haslm said about that now infamous decision to give a fully guaranteed contract, as it continues to what was the what was the analogy I made that I was quite proud of myself. Do you remember there a few of those? But you couldn't You kind of have to narrow that down. I'll go when it will come to me, Jimmy Haslm, Every team, every business has to look and do what they think

is in the best interest of their team. What did what we did, what we thought was in the best interest of our team. We still feel that way, So we're excited to if you will have that stuff behind this time last year. How many games is he gonna play? Is he gonna play? Is he not going to play? He's going to be there the whole season now and barring injury, heaven forbid, he's gonna play all seventeen games

and hopefully more. That I think alone, that I think alone is a bigger leap to the organization, to Deshaun, to all of us, you know, and Haslam is very comfortable. I just feel like over his entire run in Cleveland playing something of a villain because at these owners meetings, when you're sitting in these rooms and they're discussing and talking about things that will never hear, it's like Haslam has created this problem for the Ravens. He's created this

problem for the rest of the team. Is around the league, and I think other owners are trying to pivot and say, we're not following your lead. We're not. We don't. Jim Mersey is saying he does not feel comfortable with this kind of a deal. But I think it's also the environment that you don't feel comfortable with. Is thirty plus other owners saying don't do this. Well, it's clear Lamar Jackson's not getting a fully guaranteed contract, and that he's not even going to ask for a fully guaranteed I

think he's looking for something. I think it's we think about Watson is the thing totally getting in the way, but Kyler too. I think he looks at Kyler as a player, uh, that he wants to top that contract, and it sounds like no one's you know, stepped up or the Ravens haven't stepped up to that point either has them? Would be insane, though, to redo that Watson

deal right now, knowing what he knows. But they can't say though, and they can't even think that way now, And I'm sure in their minds they can't even think that way, at least vocalizing it like they have to be all in and just make it work, because you absolutely have to think that way. But it'd be insane to redo that deal knowing what we know now? Are you kidding me? X on Vald's spill eighty nine? Prince

William sound Wait, is that's that's the Watson contract. Yeah, it's an oil spill where the ramifications and consequences continue. You were proud of the analogy because killer mispronounced that made it a double win, right, because here's your guns on Valdel. Well, I don't know if I stuck to my guns, but it would turn into a thing. Yeah.

Here's the thing about about the part of me thinks that you remembered what it was, but you didn't want me to remember because then it would bring up this again. I literally did just I did just bring it up, though he thinks you did that. I heard from some listeners who said that Valde's Valdez is one of those like tomato tomato, both pronunciations are acceptable and one is just more common. One's wrong. Well, have you kept that under your vest until now? Gondola gondola? Like? Which one

is really right? You know? Doola is not? Even? That was another Sessler debated, Why does he wait till now to share that information? That controversy sound like say it however you want? Right grammars on fire right now? All right? Do you guys want to throw one out that you were, uh you found interesting or do you want me to just kind of roll through it. I could go either way. Well, let's let's get the top level stuff for Do we have anything else on the Lamar situation. I feel we

covered it pretty well. Okay, we will next show. Um, let's start with Goody, who we heard from and I think gave us more information than Frankly, I was expecting to get at the owner's meeting from the packers about the whole Rodgers trade talks or any scenario that you'd be comfortable making a trade without meeting a first round pick back. Yeah, I mean, I think you know, um,

that's it's that's not a necessity. But at the same time, um, you know, the value of the players is he's a premiere player, you know, so I think getting premiere takes

back for that is or players as important. Followed up that comment, I think it was noteworthy with some more reporting and the reporting got specific that it's like maybe it'll be a two this year, and it'll be a two next year, but it can move up to a first potentially depending on what the you know, how the Jets do, and they might be arguing over whether it's stats based or whether Rogers is still on the team,

and It depends on referencing that Charles Robinson. Yeah, it was shockingly specific in terms of what the terms, right. He was very specific. But you've also heard some of the insiders at our network speak to it in in similar tones but maybe not quite as specific, making me

think they had similar information. Just like, this thing's so close, and I get while they're fighting over everything, and the players might be involved and that that matters, but no one's worried about it at all, which is why we we've been treating it as a non story, I think over the last week and a half because we're gonna find out. And I think now Dan, you kind of know what the terms roughly are gonna be, which is

probably a couple picks that aren't first round picks. Yeah, if they if they're saying that with some conditions, they're not. If he's publicly saying in Arizona, we're not necessarily looking for a first round pick. At this point, it's not going to be to me a situation where the heels are so dug in that something truly ugly happens, they should be able to nobody's worried. Yeah, And I think I mean the reason I think that the Jets also should dig in a little bit, and this tells you

that you know they're getting into the nitty gritty. Is that there's no we're gonna do this again with Aaron

Rodgers next offseason. We don't know that he's going to play for two years, and so it needs to be an scentive based or I think part of it was like if they reached the AFC title game or hosted a divisional round playoff game, certain picks and stuff could change a little might want it to be does he play in twenty twenty four and absolutely Duty mentioned the players there, So it's sort of just something to put

a pin in and we'll find out. But I think we learned about it and rap Sheet mentioned that this there is a world and it doesn't seem improbable at this point where yes, it's going to happen, and there's a lot of money tied up into whether it's the post June first trade and how that all plays out, but this could go right up to draft week. It's sort of the feeling to some degree that it wouldn't

be improbable for that to occur. And I wonder because being the general manager is such a front facing job, and there's so much interest in terms of what the packers are going to get from Rogers if Goody is kind of massaging the message a little bit and just letting the fan base know a little bit too, like they do not kill me when this trade comes through and it's not a first round pick. I've already dropped a breadcrumb to be ready for how this goes down.

Hopefully soon, we'd like to move forward. How about you mark anything that uh somebody jumped something jumped out to you from I thought, um Robert Craft on a number of topics. Number one, he dropped the nugget that meek Mill had texted him saying that Lamar Jackson wanted to play for the Patriots. So there's that, and it's just

like you're getting the full Robert Craft experience. But I mean, come on, man, Well, as as my daughter's fifth grade friend said to me, as like I sang along to some song on the way to a movie together, It's like, that's very cringe. You know, the Robert Craft is cringed. There's no way akers with the meek Mill references. He there's no way that it can't be. Wow, Greg, you've never had anything critical before to say about Bob, and

I had a couple of things. In fact, I have many times in this show that I don't like it when the when the three guys were battling like that, It's like, oh, Belichick, Craft, and Brady the three pillars, and I get it, but like, that's not My Other side of this was I thought that he was a little just a little bit chilly on the future of Belichick because we know that Belichick is thirty wins away from chasing Don Shula's record, and do we have Robert

Craft on that. Look, I'd like him to break Don Shula's record, but I'm not looking for any of our players to great get great stats. That isn't We're about winning and doing whatever we can to win, and that's what our focus is now. And I it's very important to me that we make the playoffs, and that's what

I hope happens next year. And this married into a lot of flowery comments about Jared Mayo, who they love and who he talked about as someone he hoped might even be a head coach for the team down the road at some point. And then I thought the icing on the cake that sound like the playoffs are bust man a little bit. I think so. The icing on the cake was they asked about Matt Patricia and that whole uttered Bockle from a year ago, and listen to

what he had to say here. I think he got put in a difficult position, and I think it was sort of an experiment and he worked very hard at it, and in retrospect, I don't think it was it the right thing, but and I feel bad for him because he's such a hard worker. He got put in a

difficult position. That is by far greggy. And you've been following this team as closely as anyone the most public in terms of criticism Belichick has ever gotten from his head coach, right, I mean certainly since the Brady years started, And it really does feel like Craft is letting the public know that. Yeah, like Bill doesn't just get I mean the way to me Like that question the first question that got set up where it was like, what was it the Don Shula business? If it happens again

a losing season, could Bill's jobbing je pretty? Or is he here to break Don Chulo's all time wins record? And beyond like the way to easily answer that question is like, what Bill Belichick is done for our organization. You can't put a price on it. You can't even begin to explain how important he's been for us, and we want Bill to be here for the rest of his career, Like, and you can just leave it there.

You didn't hear that you don't have headlines. Instead, he made a pointed reference to say, like, listen, records are good, but that we don't just keep people around just to break records, and I want to be in the playoffs next year. This is a big subplot around this team there. Absolutely it started at the beginning of the off season when they released the statements to explain how Drod Mayo is going to stay and they said what his new

title is going to be. I think they might have even mentioned that he got to raise in the statement, and just like people covering the team were like, it's amazing, And that was clearly Robert Kraft saying I don't care how you normally do things that they don't have real titles and we don't announce it till four months later and blah blah blah, like I'm announcing this now and this is what we're gonna do, and it was felt like a bit of Kraft taking control back of the organization.

He's eighty one years old, Robert Kraft too, I don't think he wants to stick around at seven and nine, at seven and ten, all that stuff. And you're absolutely right. I think it might be a playoff or bust scenario Old BB one kind of funny. During the setup to that initial question, a reporter said, you know, you guys have posted a losing record in two of the last three seasons, and then Kraft interrupted the reporter and he goes,

we were eight and nine last year. When was the And then the reporters like the Cam Newton year, and Kraft was like, oh, the Cam Newton Yeah to like like everyone else, Yeah, Kraft forgot that the Cam Newton year exists in Patriots history post Tom Brady. It was. It was the pandemic year. It was a tough time for everyone. Where did they go seventh? They went eight and nine that year too, I don't even that was seven and nine, seven and nine. Um, so yeah, that's interesting.

I thought that was almost like the most fascinating thing that came out of though with you. I'm with you, and they and then they asked Bill Belichick, what what's the reason fans should be optimistic for what's ahead? What would you say to them to give them a reason to be optimistic for what's a hint for the Pats the last twenty five years? You really you gotta watch the YouTube show. He sits there kind of rocking in his chair, staring at the reporter and thinking what he's

gonna say. And that question is coming from two feet away from Mike Reese, who knows just how to ask it, and who has been in Foxborough as long, maybe longer uninterrupted than Bill Belichick actually, and hearing Tom Curran, who asked another one of these key questions for Craving, hearing his interpretation of like Belichick's usually the like, we're not resting on past history, and we're certainly not worried about individual honors over the team and everything, and that Craft

is really trying to say, like, look, this has been your rules for twenty years. I'm going to make you play by your rules. And Sauc's all right, we got a lot more to get to, but let's first take a quick break. All right, we're back mark something else that jumped out to you I guess you could go to the sort of split response on Brock Purty from Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch, you would be interested in well just I mean, I think that you know, and they seem to always sort of be on the same

page about things. But John Lynch was very optimistic about the concept of Brock Purty coming back in time for training camp. I leave the leader in the clubhouse at that you know, like Kyle will make those kind of decisions, But I know when we talk, I think Brox probably earned that right to be the guy. If we were to line up, he'd probably take that first snap. And I'm really excited about where trades with his progress from

his injury. He's been working really hard, and you know, I love the opportunity to be with to bring and Sam Darnald and his skill set. We think it's a really good fit and so we liked that. We liked that room a lot. Forty nine Ers fan Girl courtesy there. Yeah, I mean, and Shanahan talked about the fact that you know you're not going to have Purty until maybe even weeks into the season, and even mentioned that Trey Lance it parted. It is like, what is the future of

Trey Lance. Is he tradeable? Is he actually having a chance? Lynch mentioned you know there's a chance he could start again, but Brock Purdy is in the flying the ointment here and Shanahan mentioned Trey Lance and Sam Darnold even competing for the starting job early on in the season. Now we believe Trey can be that. I think he would have done it last year if he stayed healthy. The good thing for him is with brock By and heard and stuff, he has an opportunity to try to regain

that in everything. And that's also we brought in Sam because we can't be set for sure on Brock because you never know how the injury will go. We think it will go well and we're optimistic about it, but right now that's on hold. M I mean, Shanahan, it's an early morning. Wouldn't surprise me if he was one of those coaches that was out late. Feels like surprised me if he was. He's got a lot of friends

there and it looks like it might have been. But but he's like, I'm gonna be on camera here, I'm gonna put it together, my hair is gonna look good, and you're not gonna really know that I was the guy out there late last night. You know what I'm saying, it's important. I would say there's some indication he was one of those guys. Some come in though, and they're just they put the hat on. They're sort of like

grumbling their haggard. He's at least trying to put a good face on it, is what I said of Hair. How about by the way, Sam Darnold's starting for this team, there's no question about it. Well, they say, well, there's reports connecting party to like mid September. Maybe when they say that at this point in the off season, that's that's usually your last sign. That's a bad sign. But why are you so confident? Is it injury related for Trey Lancer? You just think he's gonna beat out Trey Lancer,

don't I mean a leadership change. I just think they like Sam Darnold and the fact that Trey Lance is gonna split reps with him right off the bat. And I know Trey Lance is coming off an injury and that that's part of it too. And there's a little buzz of like, is Trey Lance ever gonna take snaps for the forty nine ers again, could this just be

Sam Darnold and brock Purty this year? You can trade Tray Lance, right, That's what I mean, Like if it starts, look at I just I think they're excited about Sam Darnold and we'll see if they stay excited if they trade Trey Lance. I mean, I mean, his value is higher than Zach Wilson, who's taking a pick before him, I would think, But are they that much different in terms of if you put him on the market, what

are you expect me to get back? You're probably gonna have to to eat salary, right, and you're maybe maybe a mid round pick. Maybe you could talk someone into a three. I just don't think he's shown enough in addition to the injury issues to have much trade right. And I mean I am pro brock Purty to the end of days, but I also would feel like, yes, that was a magical run, But do you not need to see a little bit more from him post injury before you moved

Trey Lance and roll with Sam Darnold and brock Purty. Yeah, Well, we'll see. It's a big offseason for Lance, I think, yeah, depending on how he looked in the preseason. If he played and looked good. You make a good point, he would not have amazing tradement. I think there'd be a different Zach Wilson you maybe get very little for and

Trey Lance would be like a mid round pick. But that's pretty disappointing when you traded three first round picks to go get it right and you I'm a darnold vand obviously, but if I'm running the Niners like I am giving Trey Lance, yeah a chance like that way, I know I have this window here where I have Purty on the shelf, and now you could give Lance some run and really know for sure whether or not the guy that you were drafting is who you thought

or hoped he was. Anyways, it's not controversial. Trey Lance actually said a couple a while back that Brock Purty deserved the starting job, which is a strange thing for him to say deserve. All right, anyway, um, Washington, I'll circle back real quick to Washington. Chase Young. They were asked about Chase Young, m who obviously was drafted, came into the league as a high first round pick, a

potential generational talent on the edge. His fifth year option needs to be picked up and I thought it was interesting hearing this when we talk about what's going on with the sale and ownership and how that affects a team when you're trying to get ready for a new season and build toward the future. Here's what Ron Vera said. It's one of those things that you've got to really think it through. You've got to be able to plan

it out. And with the situation we're in right now, waiting on like everybody else to find out, you know, ownership, we you know, we got to kind of drag our feed a little bit until we get to that point and find out, you know, do we have to find out from whoever the new ownership To be honest, if there's a new owner, we have to go to them and find out, you know what I'm saying it So

I don't know at this point. I mean when the head coach is saying things like we have to drag our feet feed a little bit, and we have to wait before a deal, and it's the sale of a it's like an upwards of ten billion dollars sale. These things don't happen overnight quickly. The whole organization and is in gridlock right now. It feels like six billion, right it ten billion was succession. They got ten from from the fake CNN. Yeah, to think of the name of

by the way, the Conservative, which is interesting. Yeah, that's annoying. I think they paid too much. I think they paid too I do not care what the watching post says anyway, So that is interesting. It's crazy. And Rivera, yeah, they asked about this all happening, you know under his tenure. It's been kind of a wild tenure for Ron Rivera, and he just said, par for the course. You think it's like one of the first Like he's he's he was a good hire for a team in chaos because

he's Ron Rivera, because he's handled all this so well. Um, this sounds like frustration because it's it's his family. It's all these other people's families around the building where none of them know if they're going to be employeed a year from now, and they've if of any team in the league, they've been let down by their ownership. He also um came out publicly and was quoted saying on Tuesday, we do not have this sound, but I do have the quote that quote. I'm a big bang theory guy.

I'm a big big bang theory guy. I'm like the show I'm in. I'm in bang theories too, in terms of like when we're discussing people being on the short end of things. But big big bang theory guy. You don't know how to say it. It's like rebounds funny. Um. Uh. I don't know what the context was for that, but for us, I thought it was interesting that on the same day that Sean Payton and George Payton not related, not spelled the same, but working together. Uh. Annoying for

both men. Yeah, spoke about Jerry Judy and in Courtland Sutton and Sean Payton said we are not trading them, and uh, George Peyton said we're not interested in trading them. And on the very same day there was reporting from Denver media that it was like, well unless they get like a better offer. Here's Peyton's exact words. I think it's pretty common every offseason, Um, new coach, not a

real deep receiver draft. Um, look, I've been you read a bunch of these things that are that are written now and and uh, I would say a number of teams of callers. But I said it yesterday that it's not something we're interested in doing. It's one of the most beautiful hotels I've ever stayed at in my life, maybe the nicest I've ever been in UM And it has pools and various areas, huge open green sun sunning areas. I believe there's a golf course. There is bars here,

there and everywhere. In other words, it's a wonderful place to spend a night before the coach's breakfast. We Um, Greg and I were there one year and we saw Bill Belichick and uh Linda holiday Um returning from a heated one on one tennis battle with each other. Is that where we saw Anderson Cooper as well, Gregg, Yes, Panton a run we've we've milked, Uh, I mean, the expenses that we in Kurd were so worth it for NFL media, just for how many times we've gotten to

use this story. Anyway, I just find it funny that the way Peyton gets around, I mean, it's essentially lying if it was any other business. But he's like I've read, I've read those things, like we know where they're coming from. Literally the same person, uh, that you know is quoting Peyton and asking these questions. Mike Cliffs from UM nine News in Denver said from a source that, Uh, the Broncos wouldn't deal unless it was a second rounder for Sutton or a first for Judy. So there's a very

specific price. They're not getting that price at this point. They've got to kind of put the tooth based back into the two. But at some point, I don't know I'd give up a second the only they know he gets a lot of money, so's it's a lot if you're if you're Sean Payton though, and you've got to try to fix what happened last year on offense, like stripping away wide receivers. He did mention it's not a

great draft. They don't have any draft picks, Like there is a world where it's like stick with these guys versus emptying the cupboard entirely. Yeah, just that report just gave me an idea. There's a very specific price for those guys. Don't know if they'll get it. A first for Judy seems unlikely, second for SUI, first for Jerry Judy, Hell no, probably not. I do like Jerry Judy. Um any other sound guys, any other I have one other

bit of news that came out of Arizona. I mean we moved to We've got the proposals, That's what I was talking. Let's talk about that, all right, Let's talk about the NFL owners vote in favor of letting players wear numbers zero. I love this. The league voted tuesday to allow all players other this sucks for the big men though, Yeah, other than offensive and defensive linemen to wear the jersey number zero is I always like who submit?

Did the proposal to the Eagles submitted it? It also allows kickers and punters to use any jersey numeral between zero and forty nine and ninety to ninety nine. That bothers me a little bit. Do you want your place kicker out there at number ninety three? Maybe? Is he making maybe kick? I don't know. I kind of like it, like I'm making the kick. I'm a little surprised, Um that this playful little rule just swept right through. Um.

I'm really happy that it did. I feel for these the bmth though, that they have to have the offensive and defensive lines. What the bohemoths behemoth. Calvin Ridley, by the way, tweeted um excited to be the first Jaguars player to wear zero shout out to JAG's equip Wow, the equipment guys have on Twitter hand, we did learn like this. This was as low octane of rules changes. I feel like we number zero over no. I like that. Yeah, that was honestly the most interesting thing that actually passed.

The other things that passed were quite minor, making tripling penalty a personal foul. They were like tweaking what the definition of launch means. You can't benefit from the extension of the first half as a result of a penalty. Basically, you can't intentionally commit a penalty on the at the end of the first half, which I did think happened once last year, and then get to run another play.

But the interesting things didn't happen. One more that did happen because I think it is it will come into play, it will be interesting. The NFL also voted to expanding scene replay to allow for a review on failed fourth down attempts. So typically approve of that, that's automatic review. Then on a failed fourth down attempt. It usually is for scoring plays and turnovers, and I guess a fourth down attempt at fails is a kind of a turnover,

so it is logic to it. That's good I don't know where that one came from, submitted by the Texans. They did not approve the punt the punt touchback, which I like that idea. They were going to make a punt if you hit the ball into the end zone or the punting goes back to the twenty five. That didn't happen. Uh, they didn't. They tabled once again the rule where you'd try the fourth and twenty. Yes, the outside kicks. They keep tabling it though they want to

talk about it again. I like that, But they rejected making uh personal foul penalty in terms of hitting the quarterback reviewable, which I really thought might happen, and they didn't even get close. And that's the to me, the whole things of failure until they finally let common sense prevail,

that is going to continue. Not just the quarterback. I also think for any type of targeting type foul on these vicious hits that are happening in a game that is moving so fast, that can swing a contest in terms of it could be it could be a fourth and twenty and there's a hit over the middle or a quarterback it's taken down and they get it should be a turnover, and instead it's not only not even not only just the first down of ten yard gain for the offense. If it's a play that could be

that consequential, take a look. It doesn't happen all that often where it should. Really just I think maybe the piece of play is something that they they have an eye on that they're trying to protect as well, and that could be coming into play, but I think it's too important to ignore it. Yeah, I mean, if anything, over the last number of years, they've been reactive to rule changes that you know, blow up playoff playoff games

become talking points on Twitter and eruughing. The passer thing to me fell right into that territory, and I think it's a lost opportunity. The Lions had some great ideas. You said, you like seeing who who proposes that the Lions were money. They wanted to get more opportunities to get another challenge. Basically, if you keep getting your challenges right,

you get a third. They rejected that, you know, that's lame, and then they also wanted to be able to challenge personal fouls that like you, yeah, it's similar to the quarterback one, but basically any personal foul that you could be able to challenge that since such a big penalty, and they ended up taking that away. They withdrew it because he knew it wasn't going to pass, holding down our lines, just like you two suppressors are doing. Don't

put me in the anti Lions camp. At first, when we were at this season and Jamal Williams was there, we were like, oh, yeah, we're gonna run it back. We were talking about running it back that night, you know, and the Packers night and then falling high that moment. What world do you live in? It's a beautiful one, Sonny. I should mention as well. Not connected to the owners meetings, the Seahawks reached a one year, seven million dollar deal to bring back Bobby Wagner, coming off a All Pro

season with the Rams. Uh, this is I love it. Everyone loves it. He'd like to see the homegrown guys that had long careers um stay there the whole time. He went to LA In a weird scenario, it's like it's John Lennon year when he broke up with Yoko and just exactly and I think he was second team All Pro but didn't seem to have a huge arget. So maybe that's a little bit something where you squint, like how good was he last year and now he's a year older. But if you're a Seattle Seahawks fan,

you're loving it. One year seven million turned into like the kind of mic contract for like really good but aging players, especially linebackers. Lavanti David got the same thing. Although there's been some reports questioning how like if this was an up to seven million or guaranteed seven million, like Seahawks fans were complaining way too much about this. Just be happy you got Bobby Wagner back. Come on,

I like this little nugget. Remember we talked about the report cards for all these teams and how the Cardinals were absolutely flamed by their own players for everything from the caneteria, the uneven floors and just a hot mess. But Jonathan Gannon has been working very closely with Michael Bidwell, the owner, to work on some of that stuff. And he said he's never even read the report card. But he's like, we're doing things differently. He's never read the

report card. That's what he said. It's not reactive off the report card. He doesn't care about it. But it's no, he wasn't there, so I guess that's not as obnoxious. Wait for a second, I thought you meant Bidwell. No, no, no, no, I think Bidwell, if anything, was getting credit from Gannon for proactively wanting to work on things. So that's a pro for um. You know, you're sure. I don't they pay for coffee in that building, But it sounded like it. One little thing that they was kind of did bubble

up was the Herbert contract talks have started. It's like, I do like it when they're like just one day Joe Burrow or justin Herbert hopefully just like sign a big contract and it's not this like long running story. Wouldn't it be nice? Um? I have my doubts when it comes to Burrow just because it's the Bengals, But prove me wrong, Bengals. It Isn't it is interesting not to endlessly go in the cycle of talking about the

Lamar contract. If if Herbert or Burrow, and I wonder if some of this is tied into everyone waiting to see how the Lamar saga unfolds. If those guys don't get fully guaranteed contracts, like but that that ship of sale, no one thinks he has a chance to get a fully guaranteed track Lamar at this point. Yeah, but publicly, well, I would assume they won't either, but I would assume

they'll get more guaranteed money than Kyler Murray got. Feels like the Lamar should be going to a little starting point. Lamar should be going to the Falcons, but the team decided that Desmond Ritter and Tyler Haneke are there. Guys, and Arthur Smith said Tuesday that the second year pro Ritter will begin the season as the team's starting quarterback. The plan is to start Desmond. That's our plan going forward from the owner. I'm really looking forward to at

some point this offseason, I gotta just watch you. We gotta all just watch all the Desmond Ridder throws, I promise you, and then I must like I'm going crazy and now, and then we'll come in with some fiery hot takes. It's going to be an exciting week. It would maybe just make it Desmond Ridder Week. His last two games, he did improve, but it's this is very disturbing. An ominous headline from ESPN Seahawks's Pete Carol quashes talk

of Jamal Adams's demise. It seems pretty heavy, fiery headlines. Yeah, he just like job security. He does seem there were a couple of little receiver moves that could matter. DJ Chark got five million dollars from the Panthers. I mean, at this point he has a chance at least to be their number one receiver, so at least it's worth noting or number two he's gonna play. Nelson Agilar is a member of the Baltimore Ravens, so they are come on back, Lamar, Why did the Ravens specialize in signing

underwhelming wide receivers? Actually, think think that's a good contract, one for three and a half for Nelson Aglar. Who's you know, he's got some juice left here. I mean everyone that was with the Patriots you almost can throw out that year. I mean, I'd rather have him than DeVante Parker, who who the Patriots are paying like six million dollars to say anything else. Taylor rapped to the Bills were really bang stopped talking? Greg think it should recovered?

All right, good, I think we've covered it. Let's get this um, Let's get this bad boy out to the public again. A reminder that Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network Draft Guru they call him, at least that's what the teenagers call him. He'll be on this show tomorrow in a draft special for around the NFL, so it'll be there for that, and then we'll have another show later this week with the Great Collie and Wolf because we're getting her every week. Are you noticing that that's a

great trend. The summer of Connie has been compromised. Let's go. That's what we do. We compromise summers, all right, until we meet again. Heat the Call