Be Around the NFL Podcast Invite Erica to the Bachelor Party. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens and I am joined in a room beld with heroes Mark Sessler, Press Westling, Colleen Wolf and Greg Rosal. What is a boys of girls hit in? Hey, what's Erica? First of all, you are invited to the bachelor party as an afterthought. We are leaving immediately after today's show, heading down to San Diego
for Wes's big going away party. And it is a going away party in a lot of ways, and you are invited. You were formally invited less than twenty four hours ago, So don't say that you weren't invited. Erica was invited. You were invited before this show just moments also invited. I mean the car is not the automobile is not left yet. You could literally be part of Oh you're one of those people if you don't get asked by a certain time, you're like even if you
don't have plans. I have planned pride and I can't do it. Let's be real. Tam Posey is not hanging like spending her weekend hanging out with a bunch of forty year old dads and are doesn't want she doesn't want to speak to your own age, but also not
a father. You should feel, you know, a compliment though, that we just kind of consider you one of the guys like, well, you didn't until you ask, but you can't ask no if you can't say I'm an energy coming off you at all, you know, get get invited and then say I'm busy, Just what are we doing it? Because you guys have been talking about it for weeks and I was like, okay, kind of you know, low key a little upset that I didn't get the invite. And then West was like, you can call him? Can
I throw out a very relevant point? Nobody was invited? How are all the four of you going that we just we just talked about it, and you heard us talking about it. West doesn't have a car. We're just giving him a ride now. In fairness, West West of the last picky person about inviting anyone to anything. Everybody's everything associated And I will send you guys a gift. I mean, we spend we spend the entire weekend together as as is in West is simply going to see
a ego so we're going with him. A podcast listener once flew down from Vancouver to a party I was having in California, and he was allowed to come because invites don't really matter. I mean I wouldn't. I don't know if I would encourage that. You know. He also came back once and he didn't know, you know, he was in your house, so that he was fine kitchen, no issue. Um, Colleen, thank you for joining us, Thanks for having me back. It's very good please to have
you here. Big show today. So yes, we're leaving immediately after the show down to San Diego. Um, big, don't don't look for us. By the way, if you're listening to this, I'm just being honest, like it is not a time for We've been honestly with the audience about this. Love them, love you. If you're listening up to West West, I love all comers. Everybody. Let's talk to each other. But UM, give it to Wes. Maybe Greg. Greg wants
some of it to Greg definitely doesn't. I just like the image of you know, Beatlemania, of like the when we get to the gates of San Diego to human beings, maybe one or two tops just yourself all right, a lot coming up today. Yes, it's the return of you'r the GM later today, so we're excited to do some role playing. UM. Also want to put it out there. You know, next week is draft week. Of course we've got a lot coming up. So UM, on Monday we'll do our go get my lunch draft props. Also, Spice
Rack makes his um hotly anticipated return to the show. UM. And then on Wednesday, this one, I'm really excited about this one announcement right here. It is the first annual Mark Sessler Mock Draft Special. So well, do a special Wednesday show on the eve of the NFL Draft, UM, and Mark will reveal his top thirty two. Uh, pinch yourself because it's happening. I mean my Tuesday, which was wide open now, UM, includes a lot of draft research I will be doing. TU know, we need you to
during this in San Diego. We want to, we want you away. We're gonna get you. This is one point out that well, it's kind of like it's always been a hole on the show. It's like, okay, four guys, it's an NFL podcast, but we're all adults. When it becomes when it comes to the NFL Draft. Finally Marcus stepped up and filled that role he's been researching for months. The world needed another mock draft. This is yeah, when when they are created, they this will be be mock draft.
Can I enam? I'd him to the agenda. Ricky, you missed perhaps the most dominant performance in the Shield softball history last night. It really really what happened to victory in five intings mercy rule? It could have been about thirty to nothing after three, I think we were holding people on the bases. I mean it was mercy is the word? Run West and I both Uh. West is discovered launch angle this year and maybe some p ds. But he's driving the ball up the gaps um like
I've never seen before. And I applaud this new direction. I'm more flexible before you get up every time. What's the name of the team that you vanquished? I was maybe we should bleep it out because it was a massacre. It was. It was like a major homicide, like a like eleven people were killed in this game. We played who shot you? About? B? I G Afterwards, Uh, let me finish up the schedule. Then Thursday, after the mock Special mock Draft, the Round one recap on Thursday night
and then Saturday we recap the whole draft. So that's coming up next week. Big week for the show. Um, let's get into the news. We gotta do. Go Hawks, Go Hawks, But I'm gonna see you on the morning. Good night. Finally you can go to sleep, not see you on the morning. No, what species was that for us? I mean, is it what Colleen tell me that? I wouldn't think. I think you guys are missing the subtext. They just I know, like, why are they so what
is up? They're gonna do it again? And Sierra, why are they so obsessed of letting us know that they are sexually active? Like there just happens all the time. Yes, they are too, very beautiful people. But like, I don't need to be in bed with you guys to find out the news that Russell Wilson got the extension, Like it really bothers me. I'm like, all right, this is good, great, good for you guys. Look at this. You've got a lot of money, you got a hot wife. What else?
Even the play it again? We gotta do, Go Hawks, Go Hawks, but almost see you in the morning, good night. Finally we can go to sleep like even their voices like that's that's like what we don't need it the Gravelly bedroom. This has been a trend. Russell Wilson has been changing his voice. Boumony Jones has been talking about it for a little while since the Pro Bowl, like
he has been changed. He's kind of he's code switching back to I don't know what he talks about, which is the real Russell, but he's definitely kind of leaning into this, like lower voice Barry White register when he sung in yes, have you guys ever done that? Have you guys ever changed your voice for something? Not to Barry White? I mean no, not at all. We're gonna later, We're gonna later in the show a little year at
the GM voice modulation. That's for a functional segment. So all right, anyway, Russell Wilson in the news UH agreed to a four year, a hundred and forty million dollar deal um with the Seahawks. The two sides. Wilson set that deadline April, and guess what Seahawks complied. It's a new world order where the players are in control and they settle on a four year, one D forty million dollar deal, a hundred and seven million guarantee and includes a note trade clause that from rap sheet at thirty
five million per year. The extension would make Wilson the highest paid player in the NFL, surpassing Aaron Rodgers deal with the Packers. Colleen Um Wilson we had heard in the ramp up to this that maybe he wanted some type of UH like sharing changing type contract where it was connected to the salary cap, which of course UH inflates every year. None of that happened, but at the end of the day, he still gets paid like a
g and UH he's worth every penny. Ultimately. I was actually kind of surprised when I saw that it came down that the team actually met the deadline that he had in place like that. I feel like a lot of times that doesn't happen, and then it kind of creates a situation. And then obviously Russell Wilson wouldn't have talked about it because that was his whole thing. But I, I I mean, it's kind of nice that they met him with that, and look now they can put that
issue to bed. It's smart. No more can take it in the agent who doesn't any other NFL clients, you know, parked there at their facility for five days. I mean he was there five days before they were visiting him during something. No, he was just like in an office and they would like come down and we negotiate every
once in a while or trade trade offers. Uh. You know what what stuck out to me is like you said that the players are kind of in control now, and then afterwards they really pushed almost transparently that this no trade clause being like the most important thing to them. It almost feels a little like not a pr move, but it's like been really pushed hard by Russell Wilson in the agent to kind of counteract the what was
going on before. And he thought that he was maybe trying to get out of town, which I don't think they were too comfortable with what it comes down to. He's thirty years old, Seahawk six and one in the regular season, six or seven years, they've made the playoffs, they won a super Bowl, should have won another one, though Russell Wilson played a role in that not happening. He's average twenty touchdown past the season second all time
with the pass riding north of one. These are the guys you do not let get away, So any of the speculation west that maybe they'll trade him, maybe they want to go cheaper, because that's how they built the previous Seahawks powerhouse. Oh stop it. You have a potential Hall of Famer in your building, you don't let him
get out. Yeah. I think football Twitter has taken this new tech where they decide that teams can't win Super Bowls if they pay their quarterback, just because it has, just because Julian Edelman caught a circus catch preventing Matt Ryan from winning a Super Bowl is one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the league. I don't buy into
that for a bit. Of course, the degree of difficulty is harder when your quarterback is making eight of the cap, but your degree difficulty is way harder when you don't have a quarterback making that much and you have a
bad quarterback. I think both sides clearly overtly wanted this to happen, and I love any deal that removes from our life, not just now in this offseason into next season, but all of next offseason and the one even potentially after, where you have potential drama of a trade to the Giants, all this other nonsense, all of that is cleared away, all those storylines, all those potentially written articles, all those debates, all those false NFL network kits, none of them exist
and short of all been removed from our life. And these shorter deals are a trend too now. Like for the quarterbacks, I think Kirk Cousins helped it that Russell Wilson, if he follows the you know, track record of some of the best quarterbacks in the league, will get paid another big contract with He might be the highest paid player in the league at three different points in his career. Not bad yea for baseball agents. Let's move on Josh Rose and his uh um career with the Cardinals. Obviously
in doubt. He's been quiet, although he has been taking part in voluntary workouts in Arizona. He spoke to s I t v UH this week and had this to say about his situation. I think when people talk about like you can't listen to criticism or don't ever read articles like you have to be aware of what's going on to a certain extent. So like, I definitely understand the situation. I mean it's annoying, but like it is what it is. Football is a business, and I definitely
respect the higher ups in their decisions. The guys in a very tough spot obviously, and for what it's worth, Greg and I know you were out of town for parts of this week, but I'm sure you are aware of what's going on on the Twitter verse. Daniel Jeremiah went from being certain that Kyler Murray was going to be the first overall pick on Monday to sixty or sixty percent on Tuesday, and then yesterday Wednesday back to just so you know, that was based off of the
Redskins visit. So he went from confidence down to sixty percent on Monday because of the scheduled visit that Kyler had to the Redskins, and then when Kyler canceled the visit to the Redskins, DJ's confidence a context to that. Yeah, no problem. I like what DJ said. I don't believe anything you hear in the next couple of weeks. That was the thing, you know, a week ago. So I'm gonna include DJ's percentage flopping flip flopping in that. Max.
Was that on your program here on NFL Network? It was that's the only remember, hey, path to the Draft check it out six pm Eastern Monday through Friday. But really on Friday's we'll see, well he get traded. This could be uh, it could happen soon, could not happen at all. That kind of that stinks for him though too. I mean you you would think when a team gives up that much draft capital to move up and draft
a quarterback, he's there. He thinks he's going to be the guy, and then all of a sudden everything changes, new head coach and obviously Cliff Kingsbury's connections to Kyler Murray. It stinks to be in Josh Rosen's position because he thinks he's thought this whole time that he was the man, and now all of a sudden he could go anywhere. It's good luck for the s I t V. They've got the you know, this little documentary series planned or whatever it is with Josh Rosen. That's where this came from.
So now people are gonna tune in a little more news. Look at that media watch up date. And Wednesday, the NFL released it's two thousand nineteen regular season schedule. So many takeaways, and I know the heroes were busy on the website. I did right up on the top revenge games. Greg, you did something on the hardest schedules, Mark you did
something on the easiest schedule. Most forgiving is how they most titled it giving west is Ali ban PARI know that, uh, not to go near you when it comes to the schedule. So you didn't write anything, or did you write something? Apparently that's the case, and I feel a little guilty about it. You could have stopped that. You could have stopped that sentence after knows not to get near you. It's like they haven't spoken in months. So let's just
go quickly through some of the notable things. Yes, the Thursday night kick off is Packers at Bears. This is the one anniversary season. These are two of the oldest franchises, So there it is. So instead the Patriots, although they're defending champions, well still instead play the week one Sunday night game against the Steelers. Great football game. Uh let's
see what else is out there? Uh Brown's Jets on Monday night and week two I'll be fun that does a throwback to the first ever Monday night football game back in September nineteen seventy. Um, we have London games. What of the London games? Boys? Do we know? Well?
There are plenty of them, and I will begin to look all you look at up and I'll tell you Thanksgiving Bears at Lions, Uh, the early game, Bills at Cowboys interesting, Uh, the four thirty game Eastern and the Saints at Falcons and NFC se rivalry renewed for the late game on Thanksgiving. Um, Josh Allen, They're they're only real. They don't have a primetime game there. Literally the only team the Bills, that don't have a primetime gamail year.
But Thanksgiving a better spot, bigger spot. It's it's that's an interesting one to think about because it it that is the biggest day of football. It's kind of underrated, like Bears Lions last year, I think was the highest rated football game of the entire season, every which is almost a shame because it was like Chase Daniel and you know, like a seventeen to fourteen. It's part of the fabric of our country having even if it's out of the background on Thanksgiving Day, it will be playing. Now.
We throw it to Mark, who's been doing research over there yet. It's very easy just type London games NFL. I have found them. Here we go. Henry's Henry's Twitter feed would have it. Well, here we go. So it is. There are four London games, the Bears at Raiders, which is Sunday, October six in Tottenham, Gregg's home home stadium, the one he loves. I believe it's Tottenham Tottenham. Well, no,
you're right. Panthers first, Bears the following week, Bucks are Bengals, Rams later in October, and then the Texans and the Jaguars. And this time they're hoping to make this actually happen in Mexico City. The Chiefs first, the Chargers a Monday night game, of course, the game that got acts last year and moved back to l A because of field concerns at the Shichi. Well enough with kind of strike
that this nonsense. The Bucks and Panthers are in London too, and their schedule kind of stinks for Bucks fans because the last they start with the Party Niners at home, then the Panthers on the road, and then the Giant Thursday night game. They at the first think that's their only primetime game for Kim Newton, but then after September they don't have a home game again until November, right, And that's the same thing with the Raiders where they were on the road for seven weeks straight and the
Bucks one isn't just like you're on the road. They're on the road against the Rams and the Saints and then London like the two best teams from the NFC a year ago. And then you come back for a couple other tough home games in Tennessee and Seattle, like that's that's brutal. The Eagles got screwed to. They're the only team in the league that has three straight road games. Yeah, but come on there in the NCA, come on party in your in your case, you're in a five year
period right now. That still doesn't work at this point, it doesn't just reset. Um, let's move on. Good schedule of stuff. Yes, check out m NFL dot com. I think they're playing up all those articles and West. Maybe it's time to sit down with Ali and just have a a monoi mono chat about where your relationships at. Apparently I didn't know it was that band, but maybe I should. And we talked about this today on NFL Network,
Greg and we will talk about more things on Friday. Uh. In fact, great comebacks marks and I know comebacks or something and very important to you. Come back. Colonel's Barcessler come back, Colonels, marks about this, Let's come back with Barks Sessler, come back? Forgot about the Bartell. Come back Colonels with catchy Successler come back, Colonels with barcess come back.
All right, let's move on. Tom Coughlin, the Jaguars executive vice president, said Thursday that players are absent from the begainning of phase one of offseason workouts. Quote, we're close to attendance and quite frankly, all of our players should
be here. I mean, he's still doing this stuff, the old military man, Tom coffin West, you know, with the with the collective bargain agreement coming up, are we gonna do away with the forces of voluntary If you have guys going on records saying I I expect you here, stop calling it voluntary. I I agree with that in principle, in theory. But the one exception I would make is
Jalen Ramsey and Leonard Bournette for the Jacksonville Jaguars. They had so many issues last year with commitment with the clubhouse, with teamwork, with chemistry, and Jalen Ramsey, I don't know what he's doing with his career. But well, I don't know what's going on with playing great football for the most part. Not last year they played well. I mean he was an All Pro Defensive Player of the Year type of candidate the year before, and last year he
was average. Well, there's no quite that Leonard four Nette deserves to be in that spotlight. I just find that there's no other team I can really think of around the NFL where there is a non coach, non GM consistently issuing these demands. He am here's I mean like he is. He is what Mike Tannenbaum was in in Miami, although more more with like a microphone, but he's in charge. Everyone knows. Then I would say, then I would say, eliminate the ruse and remove this GM and waiting or
go be the coach. At the same time, eliminate remove him from the Organization's going to have a false GM like either like just see he's he want he's in a role, but he wants to be all these other roles getting your lane. He definitely isn't buying into sort of the Belichick or Parcel's idea that there's one voice in the organization because Coughlin wants to be one of the voice. I just don't like speaking for your coach. Then obviously the which is gonna have to go answer
for it too. It's like, are you on the same page. You can't Doug Maroons say that Maron's boss you. Oh yeah, of course then he could say whatever. Its just it feels messy to me, but maybe it's But isn't this just like conditioning at this point? Like they can I feel like it's not that big of a deal because they can work out with their own personal trainers and then if they show up out of shape, then yeah
that's a problem. Which which for it? With for net it has been right, But yeah, Coughlin's you know, gonna gonna not kin Tom Brady not only not at like the work acts, but doesn't go to the O t a. They there are plenty of But it used to be like you, like a player, didn't have access to proper conditioning techniques back in the eighties if you weren't in the right That is absolutely the opposite now, like going there is just simply a check the box, I'm enthusiastic
type thing. Guys used to in the offseason, used to smoke a pack of cigarettes a day and work at the toll booth to make ends meet. Now now they're they're athletes, they're around athletes. What my issue with this is that any team that hopes to be a contender want it's best player, it's best players, it's team leaders to step up and be that guy. And Jalen Ramsey has not been that guy. He's been the opposite of that guy with Jaguars. I hear you. I just don't
know because and I don't know. Maybe you're right. I just don't know if it makes any difference in terms of your leadership with the team, whether you're at weightlifting in April. You know, those toll booth jobs pay pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I almost did it. You'd be a government employee. I would imagine, Yeah, that's a job because you're getting a lot of easy past game in. I heard that's the highest suicide rting jobs. No, that's air traffic control. That's dentist.
Everyone's it's dentist. I've heard dentist. Yeah, but I've also heard traffic control, traffic control, air traffic control. Market you get a google on that dentists are doing. They're doing financially well, typically, I don't know what's it. What's it? The it sounds okay, but you know I think it's a it's the same thing every day and then be the newest list. Have journalists on that. It's confronting a group of people every day who don't like being with you,
that don't like that you, and you're making their lives unpleasant. Um, moving on a little. Uh, let's take a quick spin over to the throne of ease. The Patriots tweeted out a video on Wednesday. Rob Gronkowski, the retired tight end, is seen showcasing his best batting stance with the Lombardi Trophy during the Red Sox opening day last week. And he squares up for a bunt in the video and then he hits a ball a pitch from Julian Edelman
and he dented the Lombardi Trophy. What a rascal. Hey, that's the best contact the Red sex of fan all year. You know what I'm saying, strop put him in the tool hole. I am enjoying this Red Sox start. I have to say, Uh, the I have some distress. See news when you were ready, I looked at a CNN reports so we can't. Oh, it's it came from CNN.
You guess you can trust it. Like the number two whole for the worst um rate for people offering themselves is arts, design, entertainment, sports and media jobs behind construction workers. I don't see dentists anywhere on this list, but it checks out. So it's almost urban legends. That's low pay, long hours, not much time off, and people don't like you. I mean, arts, design, entertainment, sports and media is also like a massive category of individuals, many of them failing
at I've never met a happy designer. You're right, ever, they're very disgruntled. Um So, Gronk dented the trophy and I don't know. I I refused to watch the video or read any further on this. But if I'm the Patriots and you have six of them, leave the dent, because it's like, oh, it's how we'll remember Gronk. He was so crazy. Don't take the dent out, is what I'm saying. Leave the debt. They're not going to take
the den out for now. They're gonna leave it just you know, and then they might fix it in the future. He was such a wild guy. We loved him. So much. Who's that Jason mccordy. Is that you're Jason mccordy. No, he's Devon Actually. Also in Patriots news, UH, they signed to Mary's Thomas Doo a one year deal. The former Pro Bowl wide receiver coming off an achilles tear UH
in his pits stop in Houston last year. So now he reunites with UH Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, who's the head coach over with the Broncos during UH Thomas's heydays thirty one, UM, Greg and like I said, coming off a very serious lower body injury, are you expecting this man to make an impact or break camp with the team? Just seems like politics trying to make you know, the degree of difficulty on this season as high as possible,
just so he can prove it. I mean, I hope he does, as well as all these other former McDaniels players that he's brought in, like Greg Salas and Brandon Gibson, Stephen Jackson, please, Tim Tebow. I guess he draft. Yeah, he drafted Thomas, So that's probably the best thing he's ever done in Denver. UM. Also in UH mentioned one retired player and gron Zach Miller, another tight end, announces
his retirement UM from the NFL. The Bears. Um Titan suffered that gruesome um knee dislocation tore about ton of ligaments in week eight of the two thousand seventeen season. Bears kept him on the roster. Um I guess under the hopes that he could come back, but it was too much and he's older as well, so uh, that is definitely not This is not a fun topic, nor is looking up suicide stuff. But uh, one of the worst injuries I've ever seen on a football field is
that Zach Miller. I will not be watching that. I think the bright side to that was not every team operates in uniform fashion when you have players that suffered these injuries. The Bears, I think they basically knew this guy will never be the same and likely never play again, and stuck with him and continued to provide for him. I mean, that's not who your team does that bottom line it was It's awesome. He won the d Block Courage Award for the team. He was around the team
all year. Very popular guy. His entire career makes Tyler Effort seem lucky. Zach Miller was one of those guys, kind of a George Kittle level athlete at tight end, a former quarterback converted the tight end and showed so much potential ear in his career with the Jaguars and just got hurt every single year. Uh and finally in the news. So happy Trails, Zach Millery. Ryan Fitzpatrick was shown in a video that went viral jogging with his new team, the Dolphins, and seemed to be carrying a
little extra in the carriage. It's the off season, uh, And he was because Ryan Fitzpatrick is an affable fellow that everyone likes. He's a guy that you could actually in the scrum with reporters. You could ask him about his belly and he'll give you an answer, and a funny one. Here's what the Harvard alone had to say. I would say, I'm in I'm in peak off season form. I think two weeks ago as in peak off season form. You know. The thing? The thing with me is, uh,
I have seven kids. Uh. So in January we have three birthdays. So we've got, you know, a family birthday party which includes cake, and then we've got a friend's birthday party cake. So that's six times in January. I got three birthdays in March, March one, March six, March eleventh, which again that's a tough stretch. That's a cake six out of what it's at ten or eleven days and so um, then we've got an April birthday, so it
doesn't slow down. But now that the birthdays are behind me, and I think I'm gonna try to go from peak off season form maybe down to peak in season four should be a kid mark. Was that you coming? You know what? I love? Whoever did that? I love that person? She didn't? Who brought the wind chimes? I know? I was saying the same thing. Hanging from a gutter with like your aunt, eating a book underneath it and drinking a big iced tea or big that's kind of reminds
me of Connor or he's got that deadpan deadpan delivered. Um, that's what's happening in the news. Ah. This is from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Hey guys, Hey, it could be a little frustrating, especially if you're in a hurry, you're running late, to find yourself at a railway crossing waiting for a train. Yes, always, and if the signals are going in the trains not even there yet. You can feel a bit tempted to try and sneak across
the tracks. Well, don't ever, trains are going a lot faster than you expect them to be, and they don't and they can't stop. Even if the engineer hits the brakes the right way. It can take a train over a mile to stop. By that time, what used to be your car is just a crashed hunk of metal. And what used to be you, well, they do not think about that. The point is you can't know how quickly the train will arrive. The train can't stop even
if it sees you. The result is a disaster. Or if the signals are on, the train is on its way and you just need to remember one thing. Stop, trains can't. It's a good message for us on our way down to San Diego trains, let's all throughout the town. It's down there. Earlier this week almost got run over solid p s A. All right, it's time to get into it. Let the festivities begin. You're the GM, Greg, What is your the GM tell tell our new listeners.
It is a recurring segment we've done before the draft where one general manager played by any any one of us makes a call to another, uh, proposing a trade that would make some some some fun sense. It's got role plane, it's got laughter, it's sometimes got songs involved. It's fun for the whole family. Laid out beautifully, Greg, laid out so beautifully that you're going to get us going. All right, Um, I didn't even think who who am I going to call? Here? Uhshte show? Well? I mean no,
I mean, like which person here? I'm a strategy to it. Yeah, I'm Jay Gruden, Washington Redskins head coach Jake Gruden, and I'll be calling his brother John Gruden played by Colleen. All Right, no general managers involved here, but still we're having fun. Johnny here's still ringing it. It's John, John? What's going on? It's Juden, Ja, how you doing great? To talk to your brother? Well, he loves me more? You know. I think that's always been uh something that's
bothered you, hasn't it. It's kind of why I walked through life feeling so comfortable. Glad I'm on the opposite coast. Let me suck that t you know, longer longer. Okaya, Oh, I forgot about Jay Gridden and the teeth sucking. Oh, he does love you. I know you're a lot going on with with Jon Gruden and the Raiders these days. There is a lot of rumors that you're trading the quarterback. I know you love Derek Carr, that you're too afraid to trade him, that you don't want to get blocked
on Twitter. So I got a deal for you. I will trade you the number sixteen pick in this draft froom, our first round pick to move up to your first round pick. I will throw in Josh Norman. You guys love old veterans there and in Oakland. I will throw in next year's first round pick. And I will throw in all the secrets that Bruce Allen has on you that he's held over you your whole career. He will
no longer use those anymore. Well, okay, all right, go ahead. Sorry, Well there's a lot for me to to dig into there. I'm not sure what secrets brucey has on me. How do you think he's lasted in the NFL for twenty years? John, what's the deal again? Joe? The first first round pick this year, Josh Norman and next year's first to move up for us to go draft our quarterback to the
number four spot. Okay, uh, well, we do have three first rounders and you are my brother, but you did remind me that Mom loves you more, so not gonna do it. You got the super Bowl Trophy just because of the mom thing. Just because of the mom thing. Listen, you've always had a cake walk through life. Jay, al Right, it's not gonna be this time. Call somebody else, like, don't open the call with like a deep human scar exactly. That's the lesson, Like, that's that is bargaining and negotiation
one oh one. Don't start with like one of the like worst cheap shots you could take at somebody. By the way, the Redskins have a pick, so all right for the rest of us. So the Redskins give up to first and Josh Norman to get the number four pick. Peterson there too. But I kind of wonder why the Raiders wouldn't think longer about that. If that's how decisions are being made, that you might have Mike Mayok left out in the dark on that decision, you know, which
does not seem unusual. Well, I think these are the two guys running their running their teams. I think Dwayne Haskins is like a lot of people think he's kind of a rich Man's at his best, a rich man's Andy Dalton or Kirk Cousins. I think you'd fit nicely. If you're a rich man's Andy Dalton, you are comfortably on the right side of the Dalton Dalton scale. So I think up to number four they finally have a future. If I wasn't John Gruden in this situation, and I
would do it. Who's a rich Man's and Andy Dalton? I think I think kind of a thought of Dayne Hasking is kind of like a rich Man's Cousins or Dalton. Like West Coast, Yeah, well kind of that West Coast.
Not not a high mind of Byron Leftwich. Yeah, we'll find out, but that great timing West Coast type of quarterback, very accurate, smart, it's it's it sucks to hear the family squabble them get the way of potential, but ill I I do think like Jay Gruden walks through life with a certain sort of confidence that you know, I think his parents loved him more than John. John's got that that John. I mean, he's one of the greatest arena players in history. Of course he's walking with that.
I feel like you're working with some assumptions there. But okay, all right, I will go next. Um. I will play the role of Packers general manager Brian Guns and I will be calling Chris Westling in the role of Bengals general managers Flash owner Mike Brown. Okay, Mike here, Brian good Cat's office. Please hold, he's coming to shine your head shots. What is this chatter? Wooling? Brian good Brian Good cuts here? What's up this? Mike? This is Mike.
Don't you have any Tommy Dorsey some big band music? What's going on with that? We're very proud of our heritage here in Green Bay and um my parents raised me to be a good German boy. So if you have an issue with the whole music, maybe we don't need to be on the phone right now. You called me son. How old you? By the way, Mike three going on at all? Right? Mike, I you know we don't usually do business. In fact, I'm new to this job still, I don't do business with anyone. I don't
know if we've ever spoken before. Frankly, I don't know how I got your number. I don't even know you had a phone, but all that, yeah, all these things, um set aside. I want to do business with you, and I'll tell you why. Let's be honest. You are not going anywhere with the current roster you have. And that's not to say you're never gonna go anywhere. UM, you just need who do you think you all are? I am Brian, I am goody respect goody um. I am.
My team is a win now outfit right now. Okay, I thought you were six and nine, Yes, but that's the past. I believe with Aaron Rodgers and a new coaching staff, we are ready to get back into contention in the NFC, which means I believe I want to add parts, and I think I need to add parts to get over the hump. Now. I look at your roster, Mike, and I see, uh, you're in the middle of nowhere. You're a man without a country right now. And that's why I want to take a certain superstar wide receiver
off your hands. A man on the wrong side of thirty and with a wide receiver, UM that has maybe two peak years left and I know he wants to get paid and all that. Are you gonna be winning a Super Bowl? In the next two or three years. I don't think so with a J. Green on my roster, I might. I just might. Well we'll see my point. I need a quarterback or can win a playoff game eating more assets. And I need a number one receiver or a number two receiver to pair with Davante Adams.
So this is what I'm gonna offer you. Get ready and respect me. I'm GUTTI actually, can you hold on one second? Fresh? Your luck? That fell more? Mike Crown an instun It feels like a circus from hell. All right, I'm back, Sorry, How to get my paperwork? All right? Here we go. I am willing to give you my first pick, uh next week. That's twelve overall and the third overall. And Mike, I don't know if you know, but the second and third round picks are very valuable.
Come here and sit on my knee and I'll tell you what's valuable in exchange for a J. Green and to four and that's the one ten. Oh you want you don't You not only want my best player? You want me to kick in another draft pick to follow your response, We we don't do business like that. What do you mean come with a better offer. You're you want the best player on my team. You want me to forfeit contention. You called me a man without a country.
I'm supposed to give up my team and you want me to also throw in a draft pick on top of that. Interference needed to be change. We needed to have a look at it to fix it. We couldn't have it happen again. What happened in the Superdome. Bad job by you, voting You and everyone else will rue the day you pass that law. You, sir, are classless. But let's not end this phone call on a bad note. I mean, I take that back. I apologize, Mike didn't
need to happen. The first sign of respect you've shown me in the ten minutes we've bet on the horn together. All right, Champ, how about you chimp a good fight? What if I take What if I take that four off the board? Oh? Take the four off the board? My first and third phrae. J. Green. I'm gonna need more than that. I think about it, because some of what you say is true. Am I really gonna win a Super Bowl with a J. Green in his prime in the next couple of years? Okay? But you're asking
me to give up a lot. I'm gonna need the number twelve, the number seventy, and two thousand twenty third round pick on top of it. M hmm, Fredy J. Green, Fredy J. Green? Can you throwing a fifth? No, I'm not throwing in anything. I'm throwing in the best player on my team. And I'm throwing the towel on my Super Bowl aspirations. Oh please, Mike, you're in fantasyland. Hey, I want to win a title. Marvin Lewis said it a few years ago. You I'm trying to win a
title before Mike Brown broa. You just employed Marvin Lewis for eighteen years. You're telling me you trying to win a title. Best coach ever? Hey? And have you ever seen David Shulau cosin? You know what, Mike, I respect the hell out of you. Do you know it doesn't come out that way. I respect you so much. I'm gonna take you on that offer. A first, a third, and a third in two thousand and twenty. And now I got Aaron Rodgers, Davante Adams, and A J. Green
at Lambeau. Let's fly. Thank you for doing business a little contentious, but business got done. Hey, those are you know what, when you're talking about guys in these high position is a power. There's a lot of ego involved and that's what we saw. But they're also business men and we did business. I like it a good time to be a Bengals fan. Who, by the way, how what would be the fan reaction to that? People would love it for the Packers and say the Bengals got headwinked?
Do you think so? The first and two thirds? But I mean what a realistic Bengals fan have to take Goodie's point of view to some degree that what were you going with A J Green and Andy Dalton over the next two or three years? Almost as much as O'Dell got and he's in his prime and a better player. I don't know if I trust what Mike Brown to do anything with those picks that's going to change the team further. That's the other issue thing, Mike Brown's making
picks anymore. I think you can you know, you can make how many picks have they made in the last ten twenty years? How many year close to as good as Aja Green? Colleen, You're up all right? Here we go. I am going to be Bruce Allen, and I'm calling Steve come who will be played by Mark Seessler. Okay, all right, say it again. It is sorry, Bruce Allen calling Steve kim the kime Bomb here, Hey, Kim Bomb, dizzy baby, Listen, listen. I want Josh. We know you're
taking Kyler. I feel like the jig is up, my man. I have not uh, you know, this whole media Maelstrom, the idea that we're giving up Josh Rosen. I don't know where it's coming from. We are very committed to him as a player, and we're still looking at other players as well, Bruce, So you're not open for business for Josh. Didn't say that either, But I just don't like the presumption of you rolling in within the first fifteen seconds of the call trying to, you know, push
me around left and right. Steve Kinbomb does not get moved off his seat. He's wady. Listen. I'd like to get this done before I crushed this breakfast burrito. So let's figure this out. What's it gonna take to get Gosh. I mean, Josh is a first round quarterback that we still view with that level of you know, he based on his potential. I don't think that we'd even give him away for what we got him last year. I want a first round pick. Plus, this is a quarterback
with excessive, excessive future potential. Well that's where kind bomb is starting. There's no sense in pussy footing around here. We'll send you our alight, We'll send you the f and then uh maybe uh not a second? What about a third? Third? And year? What year is the third occurring in next year? How about this? You throw in a fifth next year as well, and we could be talking some business. I think, uh, I think this could happen. Listen, me and the wife were coming out to Sedona in June.
We'd like to take you guys out too as well. We'll throw that in to the dinner in there as well. I think the d off the table. I am taking the deal. I am taking the deal. This is going to put come Bomb back in very high standing with the organization from top to bottom. It's needed. Josh Rosen, he's a redskin. Thank you, baby. I think I got quite a good deal. Who yeah, I think Bruce Sound's gonna get fired. Yeah, I got fleaed and like he just started throwing in extra picks after the first round
pick just for fun. You should have kept going see if you can get another first on it. Like, I was very happy with the hall as they would say. So you got a first and a fifth and a third and dinner and fold. The Redskins value just went up from a year ago significantly. I love it. And you know Jake Ruden does not know about it because he operates obviously in his own channels. So yeah, listen, we're desperate for a quarterback. By the way, you can
break character now. But my hands in my pocket. There's like the streets talking that they may be lucky to get a three. Yeah, did anybody talk to Bruce before this phone call? There's a reason. I think there's a reason why Bruce Allen is going to be ranked I think dead last on my GM rankings. Which do you think they will get a first rounder? I don't know. Everything we're hearing is that there's just not enough interest
in him and there's no market. I think they'd be happy at this point to get like a mid second or whatever that that would be. I think it'll I think it will be actually a second or a third. Lece you hold on to him till someone I think it's good. It's well, you do have a potential quarterback solution. I don't know. I don't know about it. Just gave up a first no, I mean, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, alright interesting. I mean if it works for the Redskins and he plays eight good years, no one's gonna care.
We're on fire. By the way, I don't think we had two deals consummated in the first two years that we've done this, so we are two for three right now, West, You're up and yeah, my, you know, the first Gruden deal is the best deal on the table. Give me a break. Well, that got soiled by some family stuff that was beyond ud called Bruce Allen, not that went far back and actually had a Bruce Allen one. But I've got a backup, Okay. I am Bill Belichick and
Greg is Bucks general manager Jason Light. They're like, I heard that man speak. Take it anywhere you want, you know, really become the character, give voice to it. He's a masculine man man. Bruce Allen. Yeah, it's Jason Light. Here are slappy, it's your aw boss doom. I'm broken, Mr Belichick. Congrats on all that arm twisting you had to do to get Bruce Harrians out of retirement. Arms twisted. What a great guy, fox, old guy follow him anywhere unless I was a tight end, you know what I mean.
It's just it's just a pleasure to hear this. The funny Belichick everyone talks about behind the scenes. Oh you know your new coach isn't gonna use O. J. Howard. Let's talk about him. This guy famously said, you know, I got no use for fullbacks. You see what he did with tight ends in Arizona. I need a replacement for Gronk. Let's let's get this O. J. Howard deal done. Uh, second round pick, so grumpy, second round pick this year, third round pick. I got a couple extra of each
of them. Let's do it second of the third for O. J. Howard. So so, so, what's the offer? Bill? One? One second, second and a third this year for O. J. Howard. You've already gotten the two cheap years out of him. You gotta you gotta start paying him soon. We'll take him off your hands. I need a gronk. Wow, Bill, your picks are at the end of the round ound. You got those compensatory picks. You got six picks in
the first three rounds. O. J. Howard is a first round pick, and he's played like a first round pick. I want, I want your first round pick and your third round pick. And let's be honest, why are you even trying anymore? You've accomplished everything. Look, I get it, you drafted him. He's yours, you know, just like Ronald Jones and Aguaya. He's stuck to your name forever. I get it. But what's it gonna look like when your head coach won't even use your first round draft pick.
He's a tight end? Come on, first round pick plays. This is gonna pass out. I love this. So you're insulting me now, I mean that that's gotta get a good, better deal. I taught you everything you know except using a second round pick on a kick or light. Oh. J. Howard's one of the best first round picks we made. It's gonna cost the first to come back. But if you if, I'll make it a first and a fourth and I'll do a deal with a little consideration of pink pony. If you know what I'm saying. Hey, like
you're like man Ginie, You're dead to me. Now, don't ever talk to me again. There's a pattern now that any deal involving Greg does not get consummated, it ends in an angry way. Yeah, I thought that was a fair offer. O. J. Howard would be very upset if the Patriots gott O. J. Howard, who's an excellent young tight end. I hear you. Yeah, I don't want him going anywhere near in New England if he was like
going into his second year and not his third. Maybe the first round pick, but you're not getting really any You're only getting what one or two more cheap years out of him before you got to pay him. I don't know, and that's not worth it first at all pro talent though, you know, beyond just the money. First round pick four years old. I mean, he was a first round pick and he's great, right, but you've already got most of the value out of him by you
having those cheap years. I mean, you got him on there in your building, you got him under contract three years for then you know next for like ten million dollars. Just give that pretty amazing. Maybe there was some middle grounds making less. He's making less money over the next three years than Jesse James is place. I mean the lines now, I was hoping it just didn't happen because it started to get ugly. But just the first for Howard, straight up, I would have been curious who would say
no in that scenario. That's a good question. I guess we'll never know. Face That's the way the game works. You're the GM lost moments. We just got breaking news. Bruce Allen's been fired. So he's been let Go is going to have it. So sorry to Bruce and his family, but that's what happens. You're the GM, and sometimes on the phone, careers changed in an instant. Mark Ceciler, you're up alright. This one is from Jets payroll assistant Hal Borrowitz to pat It's coach Bill Belichick played by Dan
I Am who Bill Belichick A channels? What what Hi? Bill? It's haw Borrowitz, remember me, former Patriots ball boy? Come on, I'm still living in that dingy apartment you put me up in, Yonkers Bill at thirty five Pine Street, right by the raceway. It's a nice, nice spot. That dog you and Jonathan Kraft sent me Gorgo. Gorgo is alive and well, but I must say it's expensive to feed him. Bill. Gorgo only eats raw slabs of meat very expensive, and I have to go to this underground butcher shop that's
only open at night. Gorgo makes me uneasy. Bill. Even when I drive to work the six eight miles from thirty five Pine Street and Yonkers to Flora Park, I can still hear Gorgo talking to me. Gorgo has been telling me to call you, Bill, to call you up on the phone. What's happening about Sam? I and in Mike Max's office like you asked me to be to hold on, I got hey, hang on, I gotta to hear this out. It's late, Bill. Mike Mack left at four pm like he always does. I am pressed for time. Bill.
Gorgo is hungry, meaning I need to drive the six miles home to feed Gorgo at thirty five Pine Street. He is ravenous. But first Bill, I must do what Gorgo says. Gorgo is always talking, his barking, his incessant noise becomes words in my head. Gives Sam to Bill. I hear gives Sam to Bill. Gorgo says, all night, Lorden. Gorgo talks to me. Yonkers is evil, Bill? Why did you and Jonathan Crafts send me this animal? Why I'm
at Mike Max PC Ready to make the move. The terms are as followed, per Gorgo, we will send Sam Donald to Foxborough on a Greyhound bus on May one in rot Earned, New England, will give the Jets fourth round pick and linebacker Kyle van Noy. You will also send my friends back to me, safe and sound at thirty five Pine Street, like you and Jonathan Kraft promised. John R. Stromsky and Jim McNally. My fellow ball boys
who have been silenced. Gorgo is asking for them, and Gorgo says, the false allegations against Sam soon to rain down in the newspapers will make the Sam persona non grata in New York. Nobody will question the trade. Gorgo says, are you listening, Bill? Yes? Go on, I'm done. Oh okay, So you're gonna give me Sam Donald in exchange for the backup linebacker and a fourth round pick and our ball boys. And the boys they're dead. No they're not. We buried them alive under the mass Pike is so dark.
No they're not. Um, I'm not gonna do it. What I can't do it. I can't hurt Tom Brady's feelings. Tom would be very mad at me. You can't do it. He's got another five years in amazing. How do you keep me in this position? How do you say no to this? This was my mission. I'm really worried. You're gonna come find me, Linda, get the police on the phone. I think Tags needs protections. Gorgo will find you, Linda. Let's get out of here. I need to know more
about what's going on at thirty Pine Street. Really blew up in Gorgo's face that he called. He called Belichick almost acting like a Jets fan, Jets fans interest. He just doesn't. He thinks he got a lot of he's got a lot more Brady Um years in him. You know, it's just not a smart move. Respect that Kyle van Noy's name backup linebacker might have been the best play? Are they add in the Super Bowl? There on detend Well,
that's what he said. I didn't say it. Don't believe Gorga only eats from a butcher's shop that's open in the middle of the night and mccagnet leaves at four o'clock in the afternoon every day. I don't. I don't believe that at all. I think that man is a grinder twenty two hours a day at least. I've actually heard the stories that he just like he spends all day and there's like a thousand coffee cups uh in his office. He's just there at all times. We have
a dog saying otherwise, Yeah, that's true. We should really do Yeah, you're the GM more often every show. Perhaps I'm just saying, in the build up to the draft, think of all the possibility, think of a world where like Mike mccagnet answers the fun. But then Charlie Castly crashes in and I did have one with that. Chris Career was gonna call, right Fitzpatrick checking on some things. Alright, alright, why not Mark, you'll be Ryan Fitzpatrick. Ryan here, Hey, right,
what's up? It's Chris Chris who Career, General Manager, Miami Dolphins. Chris, how are you? Yeah? Good to hear from you. What I was wondering if you wouldn't mind just for a minute, jumping into the fish tank with me and talking a little bit off of football. Let's do it. So I saw them. I saw the workout videos of you doing your running uh workouts and working you know, when you signed someone like me like the I have been working. And I saw the the little scrum interview you did. Oh,
that's just to throw the media off. You know, I'm k's gonna throw a couple of things out there for you in a minute. Fasting, that's the thing people learned too these days. That's too. I don't doo, I don't operate. I mean, I'm an old school quarterback. I didn't do fat. It's I do the fitsy diet, paleolithic diet. That's an option. Alright, Well, I'm listening to you, but no, I'm not going to be Atkins low sodium. These are all low sodium is
part of the regiment. Just say, like, I just want to be clear that you're aware that you're literally are our starting quarterback. I mean, for now, that's true, but you know it's there's months to go, months to go. I mean, I you know, I look at my body as a temple, and right now a lot of people in the temple, a lot going on in the temple. But it's just my way, just the simple check in and say hi to the wife and on the kids.
But yeah, it's a reminder you're that you're literally starting quarterback. I'm gonna add you into my phone. I'm sorry, I had no idea who you are, and I appreciate the dieting advice from you, but uh, you know, Fizzy, it's gonna do it as some way, all right, just lay off the cake, right. Maybe it's apparently on the radar of the front office in Miami. Interesting, Wait, I thought that you. Chris Greer signed him specifically explicitly to lose the tames and get the best pick possible. He's in
great shape for that. Yeah, that's true, but that's a popular misconception. Greer is thinking Lombardi and people aren't aware of that. It's all Michael Lombardi. He's thinking about Michael Lombardi at all times. I mean I I especially like the line from Fitzpatrick, which I don't know if he was borrowed from like an adult movie, that my body is a temple and there's a lot of people outside it, right a fief he man. Um. All right, there you go, you're the GM good stuff unstable. Um. All right, we
said it before. A lot coming up next week, so check it out. We also have our final Twitter show before it goes on some type of hiatus, so we're gonna have content for you guys. Guys, Monday, Twitter Show, Monday Podcast, Wednesday, Twitter Show Wednesday, Mark Sessler's first annual mock Draft, Thursday, and Saturdays. Whoa hey, Now make sure you check it all out. Connie, thank you so much for joining us. Yeah, and you'll have more network. Are you going to be in Nashville? I believe you are.
I am. Yeah, I'll be hanging out in Nashville. I'll be on stage with IRV for nights one and two. Oh my god, I love Nashville. I've ever been there until last year. I always feel like in the draft, Connie goes all out and you always have a look that is totally foreign to how I typically see you last year. The the hair is different, you dress different. What do we have coming? You've made a lot of news, You've had a lot of social viral Like the draft
is Connie time, rightime. I'm basically going to be a giant sequence at the draft, A giant sequen. Yeah. I like that. That's something look forward to. What do you deal with the hair? I don't know, be hive, Well, I think it's yeah, because you decide, So do you decide? I decide? So? Yeah, never mind, I know where you're
gonna go with that. It's fine. Uh. If you need any other reason why to check out NFL network coverage of the draft, Connie Fox will be central component as a giant sequence, a giant better than being Bruce Allen. All Right, thank you everybody for listening. Um, and we are out of here. It's time to go to San Diego. It's pile into the car, kids, let's do it. It's going for a ride fun, all right. Dan Hanson signing off for a quiet storm. The Mailman, Connie Fox, the
tiny Box, the Old Boss, and Ricky Holly behind the glass. Ricky, come on, we got rooted for you, all right, I'm coming all right. The t