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Theredairs. You heard at the Los Angeles Rams left for dead before the season started, or in the precipice of being a playoff team in the NFC. After another win thirty to twenty two over the Saints, a game which Matthew Stafford continued his dynamic play in the second half of the season, and we got another monster game from Puka and Nukua. This team is dangerous and they beat
a Saints team that continues to fade. It's the Around the NFL Thursday Night Recap, and tonight's episode is presented by Uber Eats, where you can get almost almost anything. Uber Eats is the official on demand delivery partner of the NFL. Get your orders in Dan Hans's here with
Mark Sessler and Mark again the Rams. They're not a perfect team, special teams, sneaky disaster and I kind of think when their season ends, whatever it is, whether it's regular season or playoffs, probably some type of special team's gaff that gets them, But there are so many other aspects of this team that are intriguing, and right now, it's that offense with Stafford, Puka Cup, Kyron Williams that really makes them dangerous no matter who they play.
Yeah, I mean it's two teams kind of going in a different direction in the rams. I think I just point to what a great coaching job Sean McVay has done it different segments of the season. Like the team they are today is completely different than the team they started the season with. You know, it's like people that weren't even on this roster year ago. I mean, Kyron Williams really was a hammer down the stretch tonight. Puka Nakua is just like he's a rookie really. I mean,
he's so productive in this passing game. With Matthew Stafford playing the way that he is, I mean, it's kind
of like a crazy box score to look at. They only completed He only completed passes to four different guys, but they were each so critical and like DeMarcus Robinson, you know, having really one of the games of his life six catches for eighty two yards, anchored them in the first half, and I just I think, you know, the defense which is still outside of Aaron done a lot of like newer faces and unknown players to the
casual fan. They really like they put the Saints into a tough spot out of the gate because cars blown up on the first two possessions on a third and fourth down sack and I think those failed down fourth downs Dan four Carr and the Saints were really a critical in this because they had a fourth and five pass right before the half incomplete, and the Rams go
right down withinside of a minute. They go right down the field and score and make it seventeen to seven when the Saints were hanging around and another field fourth down later. They're oh for three on fourth downs tonight, and on the season they're oer for seven on fourth downs with fourth and five or more to go. So it's execution, it's coaching. It's weird decisions where the Rams to me are heating up, and it's like, I don't
care where they land in this wild card race. As they get there, they're going to be a strange and tough opponent to deal with.
You know, if things stay where they are and we don't want to get a hard ahead of ourselves, especially in this season where teams have been kind of playing rope a dope with us all year. There is a real scenario where the Rams are traveling to Detroit to face the Lions and it's Matthew Stafford against the team that drafted him. And we like the Lions, But you cannot tell me the Rams would not have a very
real chance to win that game. I actually look at the Rams and I think they could hang with pretty much any team now going to San Francisco in the NFC. Okay, that that might be a tall order, but they just the way they play, in the way they're coach and you know, we've been talking about it, you could this is not that this is the sexiest conversation, but when you talk about coach of the year, this is a really good coach of the year year.
Uh.
There's a lot of coaches you can make a case for and a credible case, but McVeigh is one of
them too. And he and the fact that their expectations around this team were so low entering the year and they're playing at such a high level and they have entering even even if things don't work out here Mark for this team down the stretch and they have AT Giants and AT Niners to close, and we don't know what version of the Niners we get because we don't know if they'll need the game even if things didn't work out. This is a team that finally gets first
round pickback. They have a lot of cap space. All of a sudden, the Rams are looking dangerous, but some of it, so much of it is predicated on Stafford, who you know, he had so many big time throws in this game. I love Stafford. I think we all do. On atn he has that sidear motion on a couple of those. He's just he's a wizard the way he throws the ball. And I just think as long as he stays upright, they're going to continue to win games. So,
you know, are they the Cinderella team. It feels like Mark, if there is a Cinderella team, and I kind of like not to jinkson, but your brownies, there's another exciting AFC wild card type team who's gonna go crazy in the playoffs and shock people Like the Rams. They can be that team. They just got to close out this regular season.
Yeah, I think it's just stay healthy and you know, Matthew Stafford stay healthy. And I mean they outlined it on the show and we've been talking about it kind of from a more ethereal standpoint all season that Stafford just looks younger. To us, it looks like he went
back in a time machine. And you're right. I mean I thought on display tonight was that one sidearm throw to DeMarcus Robinson and they missed a field goal on that drive, But it was just like, Okay, not that many quarterbacks can make that throw and to have like the wide receiver talent that he does right now, it's just they feel like a team they've scored thirty plus
and four or five games. I'm with you that McVeigh really fits the essence of what coach of the Year is Raheem Morris does as assistant coach.
Of the year.
I mean, because these are this was a roster that had, you know, thirty thirty plus young players, rookies and undrafted free agents that no one knew about. And like the fact that they've developed them this quickly, it's to me sort of the opposite of what's happening with New Orleans that feels like their coach is a couple weeks away from hitting the exit door, and you can't just blame it on Car. Like Car I thought in a lot of these games, has had to come roaring back with
a hot quarter. But there's too much imbalance on that roster, because while the Rams are getting Karen Williams, you know, eating up the clock down the stretch and bringing so much balance and opening up the passing game because of what he can do on the ground, you're getting like the worst version of Alvin Kamara tonight. Not nineteen yards at two point one yards per carry. They were low
on the ground. They' running for thirty five yards. And then you got Car under duress early in the game, when I thought it set the tone that they were forced to make tough decisions on third and fourth down and couldn't execute outside of a couple of big deep throws. The score in the end feels not fraudulent, but it's a little It doesn't guide you to what this game is really about, which was the stammering.
Them absolutely fraudulent. I mean, forget about lipstick on the pig. This is this is mascaro on the pig. Some blush on the pig. Put a blonde wig on the pick. You're looking at the pig and you're saying, do I love this pig? Am I gotta buy this pig a drink? But then you like take another step back and you kind of squint. You're like, no, that's an ugly that is an ugly animal. Because this game was everything that tells you why the Saints cannot be taken seriously. They
were non competitive, could not run the football. You mentioned Kamara struggles. They ran sixteen for thirty five yards in this game, two point two yards per carry. Non competitive. The defense was just as bad. The Rams kind of were scoring at will while the game was before the game kind of got out of hand. I think they had maybe one punt late in the third quarter Los Angeles. So the defense of New Orleans, which as I've said, I said earlier this week, has been very topsy turvy
this season. They've had big weeks, they've had shutout weeks, but they've all said plenty of weeks like this where I think they gave up close to four hundred and fifty yards in this game. And you know, Mark, you know I'm by the by any matter trick. I guess I'm a Derek Carr defender. But this game, I can even say, like, this is why Derek Carr drives people nuts, because you want you want to point to him and say he stinks, and you want the smoking gun with
the stats to back it up. But he's the king of this. Like he did not play a good game here, not certainly, not when it mattered. But when they pile up those fifteen points in the fourth quarter on a drive, block punt, quick touchdown, two point conversion, all of a sudden, the statline finishes twenty seven to forty three to nineteen eight yards per attempt and three touchdowns and one pick and a passer rating over one hundred and five. That's
super annoying. And it is another reminder just not to judge a player based on stats, because he is even as a defender of Car, he's a compiler. And those last two drives really kind of made this game look a lot more competitive than it truly was. And you know, as someone, oh, I locked this one up, by the way, nothing better, whew, nothing out of the way. Is there anything better than a Thursday night football lock the whole world?
Joy st you're operating with house money for the rest of the football weekend. So I think that was a wise move on your part and well executed, unlike the Saints and what they tried to do tonight.
But you know, I've had a terrible lock year. And when they were what was the score at one point it was thirty to what seven or whatever it was. When they score the two quick touchdowns, the Saints saying if the Rams ever blow this game, I am not doing the podcast. It's a Mark monologue, which might be
interesting and prefable for some. But they got the first down they needed the Rams after that second Sants score after of course, Pooka and Akua recovers the onside kick, because of course Pooka Akua had to recover the onside kick. Because Pooka and Akua, It's almost as if Mark is great as he's been, and he has gotten plenty of press. It's not like nobody knows what's going on with pookin Akua. I think maybe a game like this brings into focus
that he's having a truly historically great rookie year. This is, I believe, a fifth round pick who finishes this game with nine catches for one hundred and sixty four yards and a touchdown on eleven targets make it all sorts of tough catches, making DB's look foolish, And they flashed up a stat that I thought, really it was put in perspective what he's been doing this year. In the time that you and I have been working for NFL media, I don't think anybody has ever exploded on the scene.
Odell Beckham when he was a rookie with the Giants, a first round pick in twenty thirteen, he gets he hurts his leg in training camp. It's a hamstring injury, and he's out the first four weeks. He joins the Giants and immediately is the best wide receiver in football and tonight Pokinakua and that included you know, the one handed catch against Dallas on Sunday Night Football. It was one of the great debuts in the history of the sport.
Was Odell's rookie season. Nikoua has now tied Odell Beckham for one hundred and forty plus yard games as a rookie. He's got four of them already this season. So you know, offensive Rookie of the Year is certainly if you give it to him. I know CJ. Stroud's the favorite, although the injury clouds it. But Nikouah's mergence has been just an incredibly important part of this Rams rise.
Yeah, because I think you could have imagined a world where he was thriving certainly statistically and looking like it as a player when Cooper Cup was out. But then Cup comes back and Puka Nakua fades to the background, and they found a way to keep them both so productive together. I mean even tonight, you know, there was the one throw and it was one of the Matthew Stafford's few gaffes where he missed.
Puka Nakula wide open.
It would have been another touchdown, I mean a large catch removed at the end of the game by a penalty. In general, the Rams also missed a field goal. It's
like they could have poured on more points. But like pokin Akua came close to having them even more of a monster evening to add a cherry on top to what I would have no problem with him being offensive Rookie of the Year if we didn't see Stroud return again, if Stroud's lost for you know, a big chunk of games, which is a possibility, then there's a real argument for it, and it's like, I think part of it is like again, these are It's not that it's narrative driven, because he's
just literally a great player. He doesn't look to me. It's like he and Odell Beckham are different players. But it's like he is, I think for some reason to me and tell me if you you agree. When I watch him on the field, he looks They keep saying he's six too and two hundred plus. He doesn't look that. He doesn't look big to me on the field, but he but with each catch and catch and run and tackle,
shedding exploit, it's like he is. His strength does show in the type of play that he plays, and I think he's such a perfect fit for the Rams offense. And it's like he's just getting better and this whole offense is getting better. And I don't know, I'm looking at a team that could easily have scored forty points to night if a few things went a little differently.
You're right, Stafford missed Nikoua on that one gimme touchdown, one of the only truly bad throw Stafford had all night, or even the less six weeks. Stafford has been so good this stat from a big Funk behind the glass. Nikua sitting at one three hundred and twenty seven receiving yards after week sixteen. He only needs one hundred and forty seven in the final two games and now we play an extra game now, so keep that in mind.
But one hundred and forty seven in the last two games to break the single season rookie receiving yards record, which is fourteen seventy three is that Odell? Does Odell have the record? Well, he missed four games, so it's probably not Odell. Let us know who that is, Akwon Bolden. That's a good trivia question. Bolden had that monster rookie year with the Cardinals once upon a time. Anything else from this game jump out to you. Mark.
I mean, I don't I get on Greg for doing this kind of thing, So I'm not trying to mimic him here, But like is as unwatchable as like the Saints' offense is for large stretches of time. Like They've got this like insane matchup with Tampa Bay coming and then they play Atlanta. It's like they can really they can find a way too. If you want to talk about putting like lipstick on pigs and other animals like that would be like the next level version of that.
But they're still alive.
But the Rams they kept talking tonight about like how the percentage is totally flipped on who won tonight, and the Rams just keep getting it done. They're gonna get the Giants and then you're right, we'll see what kind of San Francisco Niners roster is operating a wiki team. But like, I could see the Niners needing to play their starters based on what happens here over the next couple of.
Yeah, the Christmas Night game against the Ravens is so big in that realm. Some more data on Big Funk. Let me know who has that receiving record. The Rams have now won six of seven. The only game they lost in that stretch was an overtime lost to the Ravens. So this has been a legitimate rise for Los Angeles. They're up to a seventy eight percent chance to make
the playoffs according to ESPN Analytics and Stafford. Since he came back from the thumb injury in week eleven, the Rams have scored at least twenty eight points in five straight games. So not only is this a team on the rise, with a really bright future and plenty of assets and money to get better in the offseason. Sean
McVay has re established himself. Even think where we were this time last year, mark where McVeigh as the season went, you know, as as regular season came to the close, there was this idea that he was going to walk away. He'd even told his assistance, Hey, don't wait for me, go look for other jobs. And then at some point he had some type of come to Jesus moment and decided to come back to LA And at that point
I wouldn't say that mcveigh's starr had dimmed. Obviously, he had won the Super Bowl the previous year, but you kind of understood why maybe he was looking at take a break. He was a young guy. The Rams seemed like they were going into a down cycle. But this is just proof that in the NFL, you just got to hit on a couple draft picks as they have, and hit on a couple of personnel moves as they have. Cooper Cupp was a mid round pick, Stafford was a
savvy trade, nikoua fifth round pick, Kyron Williams. These guys were not expected to be stars. They've all kind of stepped up and the defense, and you're right, you obviously have to give credit to the DC on this because they have put together a defense that is competitive week after week, that is very young and outside Donald and a couple other players inexperience, So very good time for the Rams right now. Yep.
And we will just note that it was Bill Groman of the Houston Oilers that had that fourteen hundred and seventy three yard rookie record in nineteen sixty. The Super Bowl era version of that is Jamar Chase with fourteen hundred and fifty five.
But I think, I think.
Exactly think there was that there was that feature that came out about McVeigh in the offseason, and I you know, it painted the picture of someone that is just classically so hard on themselves and like probably burns themselves out.
And I think he thought he was walking around the building last season burning everyone else else else out too, And I think this is such a different experience, and like, you know, it is like also like less sneeds creation because they've kind of shifted the philosophy of who they are because I think it's we're back to the world of draft picks back to the world of like drafting a lot of guys, drafting, taking undrafted guys on the side, like forming the kind of Rams team that you want.
And it's really different than chasing a.
Top heavy selection of prizes to go win won Super Bowl and then the whole thing could have crashed. Instead, we're here, like we read the team has been redone. It's happening, quicker. I think the best today's NFL rebuilds. It's inexcusable to say they should take four or five years. This is not nineteen ninety three. It should happen faster, quicker. And a team like the Seahawks did it a year ago, and I think the questions were like could the Rams
do it too? And here we are, and like they're better than the Seahawks, the kind of team that could probably knock off a surprising Lions team in the playoffs, like you talked about. So it's like, it's kind of an interesting time to be a Rams fan. It's so different than where we were two years ago.
Yeah, and you just as you're making that very good point, Mark, I think have the Jets gone thirteen straight years without stumbling into the playoffs once but that tells you a lot. And I did mention Raheem Morris and the Rams defense deserves credit too. We were focusing on the offense because that's the special part of this team. But Kobe Turner had a big fourth down sack on car He leads all NFL rookies with six and a half sacks this season. He moved ahead of Byron Young, his teammate, who has
six sacks. So you know this isn't just aaron' donell. And you know everything is taped together with spitting bubblegum. This is a team that's that's really figuring things out. And I mentioned the last thing here. I mentioned the special teams is an issue for the Rams. Remember they got that overtime loss. They're only lost in seven games. Is a punt return for a touchdown? This loop? You know we have the kicker club. What's the opposite of a kicker club? I don't know a kicker, well, a
ghetto a kicker. I don't know something bad like a like.
I don't know if you've ever been to like the the bus bathroom, the bus terminal BATHROOMAH or port authority. But Cleveland, Cleveland's just like you walk up into the men's room. I can't speak for the women's room, but like there's eighteen stalls, none of them have doors on them, so it's like, I know what we're doing here, but like it was sort of a decrepit nightmare. And that's where you put these special So the.
Kicker Cleveland Bust Authority location is where Lucas Haversik belongs. He missed from forty seven in the second quarter. LA has now missed eleven field goals this season. The motion's the twenty fifteen Bucks. According to ESPN. They also got a punt blocked in this game, so they got all sorts of problems on that end of the ball. They'll get that fix in the off season. But I think it's gonna haunt I just got this feeling mark that's
what's gonna get them. They're gonna have a big, fun, competitive, back and forth playoff game because I do think they're gonna be a playoff team and that will get them. But you know, we'll see Big Funk chimes in with Kicker Roadhouse and that just makes me think of the Patrick Swayzee moving. I think that place is awesome.
The double deuce, Yeah, the Roadhouse, that Plato much of a potential reward for these for these players.
Did you see Roadhouse with Patrick Swayzee? Oh, Kelly Lynch, who's the guy with the big mustache from Big Lebowski with a great voice?
Oh gosh, I know Sam Samuel, Sam Elliott, Sam Elliott's in that?
What a film? Check out road Out? Excellent? All right, let's take a break alright to welcome back to around the NFL. This will be fun. So time for who will Deliver? Presented by Uber Eats, where you can get almost almost anything. So before tonight's game, we UH sent some members of the ATM production team around Sofi Stadium and we said ask the fans who they thought would deliver in tonight's game. Here's what some of them had to say.
Remember hoping Derek Carr has a great game. The Saints bringing the game for their fourth win in a row. This is a really important game for us. Both teams is seven and seven and we need it. Rams are gonna win his playoff, Baby Williams is gonna go off for three touchdowns tonight. Two touchdowns Williams two touchdowns, Pookah and my long shot is two touchdowns hickbee.
I think that Kamara's gonna go off a Lobby's gonna score a touchdown as well.
And I think this score is gonna be twenty one to seventeen.
It's gonna be.
Close Stafford tonight and predicting, you know what, a good at least two fifty possibly three tugs. I'm gonna give him about fifteen fifteen yards rushing tonight. You know what, Hey, possibly possibly a close game throwing a late rushing tug.
Well, first of all, it's gonna be a great victory, that's for sure. Right, we're gonna take it tonight, of course, right, and you know well, Stafford is gonna put it down today. He is gonna have three touchdowns.
Right.
I cannot calckilate homa yards, but it's gonna be probably over three hundred yards. And guess what we just gonna end up going back. We're gonna go on Victoria. It's only matters, man, make the damn playoffs.
There we go. Well, those fans are passionate, don't tell me, LA football fans don't get it. They were fired up for this game, and not all of them nailed their predictions. But uh, fun vibe. So far. Yeah, I tended.
I'd say overall, it seemed like the Rams fans very optimistic and came relatively close in theory. The Saints fans not so much. Their predictions didn't pan out on any level.
But you know who really delivered, Greggy. He took the kids to the game, took the wife to the game. So Otani up close. That's great. By the way, Otani. Otani visits the Rams and he's on the sideline and he's sitting, you know, in the in the in the suite. They give him a jersey and he's all over Twitter and everything, and it's like Otani's been here. Otani was
on the Angels for the past like five years. Like they're the Los Angeles Angels, and that I mean, don't tell rank because I love Rank, but like that's pretty like sand indictment of where the Angels are within the the greater sphere of sports here in Los Angeles, although they are if you don't if you know the area, the Angels are like the Orange County team, and it is that it is a Dodgers town here in this
area of the city or state, I should say. But anyway, never mind that Greg took his kids to the game. He saw Tani. His wife probably you know, was thinking about greg Or Otani. Where should I go? I don't know. We'll get back to you mission anyway. But he did give us a report from the game. Maybe he'll talk about Otani.
Let's hear all right here at Sofi Stadium, Rams Saints. I gotta say Rams fans brought it tonight. They get a lot of grief, but they brought it. Show Hey, Tani brought it. We saw him on the sideline before the game. Matthew Stafford brought it all. The trick shots are fun to see in person, like the angles are crazy, bust the rhymes brought it at halftime. That was good Walker, My family brought at Walker. You got anything to say? Who's whose Okay?
PoCA rules. That's it from so far.
Good night at the game.
Thank you from the Rams, making my kids happy.
Ran a podcast all right. That was Who Will Deliver, presented by Uber Eats, the official on demand delivery partner of the NFL Order. Now we've talked about how Greg and he tries to play it off, but he's been turning Walker, training Walker to be a little like a football robot, A twin, So it is I think instructive. It tells us that that Walker's training is going on that if he only says two words puka nakua, because that was the story. So and Walker Walker was just locked locked in on that.
Yeah, I'm not I'm not surprised he's They're all there are rams family. I would ask you this though, because I remember when we were young. One of the reasons we got into this what we do is because of w F A N. And they had this incredible show on Sunday where you know, I was a Browns fan.
It's like you're you're getting you're looking for any morselivan information pre internet, right, and they'd take They had like that six hour long show where they'd go to beat reporters at the stadiums for like three or four, you know,
thirty forty seconds each. You could barely hear them. But that Greg report had that essence in that feel where it's like, this guy is trying to get his message across to us clearly with about eighty thousand people behind him, going absolutely bonkers with about six beers in the meach.
How about this idea? That's our show? Now we every week we send Greg to a stadium. You and I do forty fifty sixty seventy minutes. Maybe we get Colleen in the mix. Yeah, you know, shookey CLAYBN, you know, typical ATM setup. Greg's still very much a part of the ATN universe, but now we're just sending him to different parts of the country to give us ninety second dispatches.
And that's It's an important part of the show. It's maybe a smaller part of the show, but equally important and gets us closer to the game, which I think makes the show better. And I think even Greg would agree, whatever makes the show better is probably the way we should be doing this.
Yeah, he'd have to agree. I mean, it's sort of our version of reimagining our operation as the Rams have done over the past three hundred and sixty five days. And I think it gets that It ignites that natural reporter in Greg. Even if it's only forty to fifty seconds per episode, it would really bring him back to his roots.
Good, good, good. So that's settled. Then do you want to make the phone call? I feel like you might want to make that phone call.
Yeah, no, No, it's just to be informative.
I'll let them know, all right, good stuff. This was the close of the triple header for Around the NFL on Thursday. You could check out the Week sixteen preview, which went up earlier today. Wherever you get your podcasts, you can check out NFL plus the Dreamatorium. Mark and I were going at it, and now you have this. Next time you hear from us, it will be Sunday and the flagship recap till then he'd the call baby,