Ravens-Browns Recap; Holiday Wish List for the NFL

being played on December twenty this weekend. Not the greatest week of games coming up, by the way, just because at this point, you know, we can't um you know, align ourselves with cuteness towards like little upstart teams like some of them just at this point are they smell bad? They need to be put out behind the shed to to rot to death and then they read Earth in spring. I thought we were sending them out to the corn fields and we would, you know, let them have a

nice rest of their lives. But you it sounds like you want to torture and and and murder them. No, I feel like some are just rotting, where like there is like the vibrant part of those teams live yeah, market in the holiday spirit. This is Mark him taking animals behind sheds and hours after two and we are

going to dig into Monday night football in full. But I just do want to say Mark, right off the bat, thank you for being here, because I know there are no promises made on Sunday's show whether if things worked against your brownies as they did unfortunately uh for you, that you would be on the show. And yet you're here, which again just speaks to your professionalism. Well a couple of things. I have nothing else to do. But secondly, what kind of scoundrel would I be to just not

appear because a football team lost? Um, I think that would be something you could put on My record is as a negative. So uh, you know I intended to be here win or lose, all right, And you are here and we will get to that game. We have a lot to get to. Yes Week fifteen is upon us uh in just two days, and we will preview the Chargers Raiders Tilt, the Raiders last chance to save their season and what has been a very rough not in December to remember by Alexis and Nissan so far

for the Raiders. Uh, so they have one more chance to save the day. We will also with the holiday season here offer up our own little wish lists for the balance of the NFL season. So things that we, you know, we wish to have happened between now and let's say, Super Bowl fifty. I don't know, who knows. I can never. That is one thing where my brain just doesn't work. I can't remember any Super Bowl titles. Don't like the Roman numerals. Just just tell me what

teams are there? I mean, according to the NFL, we're still in the one hundred year celebration of pro football, so I my math is completely turned around. It's so weird because it's actually now the one and fiftieth year of the NFL, and you would think that you could have a new logo and everything, but we're still rocking with the century mark for whatever reason. Super Bowl two thousand twenty one is super Bowl forty five. How about that? Nice clean See you're not as like into like traditional

things as I am. I love Roman numerals, I like it. I just can never like whenever people, even Patriots ones that they've won, Whenever they're like, oh yeah, back in Super Bowl forty seven. I I remember, I just my brain can't work. I can't remember which ones which I remember the years obviously specifically, but I can't do it. When they introduced the L into the room, like when they started going with the L business and like, but it was oh, Bears, Patriots super Bowl twenty xx, It's like,

I can work with that. But when we're getting to weird new numbers and numerology, I'm out. Well. The beginning of the Patriots dynasty was also tricky because you had you were at that point where there will be five, six, seven, Roman numerals to conscribe what Okay, okay, alright, the trunked aren't put down the gun? Ricky. She's like, I'm from a younger generation. They never taught us things like cursive and Roman numerals. Okay, care, you're younger, what does that mean?

It means nothing. I know cursive. I was taught it in third grade. When when when the NFL, by the way, went went away from the Roman numeral for fifty they told me they weren't really in on it, Like if you can't do Super Bowl X, if you're not just gonna be Roman numeral the way that's when you give up when it would have been the best one. Then you're you really weren't in it to win it, to begin to see there was You're so off on this, Greggy,

because fifty is Super Bowl. You're not gonna that looks ridiculous. Fifty is a great round number. Absolutely, absolutely go with the number there. I was all for that. Now, could you've made the case that Giants, Bills and ninety should have used the numbers? They didn't. They went with Roman numerals. It really makes you wonder what happens when we get to Super Bowl one hundred and we're gonna dig into that for an hour today on the podcast Game of

Week fifteen, we're doing our wish list. But yes, Mark Sessler's here and we're gonna talk about Brown's Ravens. Let's go reight huddle with Jackson back out there. Fourth and five at the Cleveland forty four. Jackson and the gun five on the wine shotgun snack. Fourth and five runs out of the pocket, pass the hash mark on the numbers down field drones. It's called of the twenty wide open is bron He goes from the ten to the five hits a touchdown. Baltimore comes right back and they

get the touchdown pass of forty four yards. Un believable Kevin Harland of Westwood one with the call. All so many unbelievable things from this game, but the fact that Lamar Jackson returned from the locker room ran on the field put the Ravens ahead late in the fourth quarter with a touchdown to Hollywood brown The game still had a bunch of stuff that happened after that, but that is to me what people will remember most about Ravens forty seven, Browns forty two on Monday Night football is

the disappearance of Lamar Jackson, for the mysterious cramping leading to much Internet derision, his return, and then just a wild finish between two a f C North teams that are very much equals. It appears at this stage in time, Mark Obviously it had to be a roller coaster of emotion for you. Uh it went from nice start to h two, oh we're done, to oh my goodness, we're

gonna win and then the way things played out. Tell us how you felt watching this game, Well, I mean, I like it was a wild night and I chose to um, I will say this real quickly that I watched the first Cleveland drive, um the touchdown drive, which I was impressed with alone in my garage because I'm very superstitious and nancy during these games when I'm not working, and so um, I ran into the I went in in between the house and the garage like five or six times, and every time I would go into the

house to watch with the rest of my family, the Ravens would score a touchdown like two seconds later. So finally I said enough of this. But then I just said enough with all of this superstition. I'm gonna go inside the house and watch it with the whole family. And it was a roller coaster ride for me. I could tell right away, as I think we all could, that this was the version of Lamar Jackson that was um m v p uh level, hyper dangerous and totally

plugged in. And you know you put that against I think a Cleveland defense where Cleveland's defense has a bunch of guys on one year contracts um outside of a couple of stars, they're missing Denzel Ward. Their back seven of their defense had no idea of what to do with Lamar Jackson. And I thought they got they got tricked, they got out schemed. Um, they're not the first team to wake up on Monday morning or Sunday or Tuesday morning thinking what the heck did we do with with

ourselves on defense? But Lamar Jackson fried them um from wire to wire. And when he came out of that locker room, I think we've all watched enough sports where whether or not the football gods arranged that little, um, you know, moment, a bit of television magic. I didn't know that it was over, but I knew that it was that that seemed to me, um, like a psychological shift in a game that was going back and forth.

And you're right, a bunch of stuff happened after that, But something in my heart just knew, um, this is Baltimore's night, and I kind of just chilled and watched from that point. Um, it was. It was a wild ride. I don't know how to express it in bullet points or briefly. I'm sorry, it's okay, you don't, you don't need to. This is what it's like, Mark, Now, you know when the Patriots were always kind of in the mix, It's like it was a lot of asking. My reaction,

which felt like I don't know. I don't want to talk about that. Let's talk about the page now that the Browns are the next great a f C powerhouse for the next ten years, You're gonna be the focus. Kevin Stefans. That was one of my That was one of my takeaways though, though I think America got to see um why And we'll get to Lamar too. I want to talk about him. But that was such a great game for Stefansky. I never thought they were out

of it. I don't think they were necessarily even out schemed on defense because it was Lamar just making up plays as he went. I mean, with two minutes left in the first half, he had been sacked more times than he had thrown passes. Like it was just him, like spit balling and running and that is the toughest and scariest thing to try to stop. So it's a blast to watch. But I love when Stefanski goes for it on fourth and eight early in the game. We're

an offensive team. We're gonna need to score about forty points in this game to win. He knew it. He knows his team. They got the fourth down late, they went for the two point conversion when they were down eight, which put the Ravens in a tough spot. I liked even at the end of the first half, he was super aggressive let Baker Mayfield throw the ball. It ended up setting up Lamar for a big score at the end of the second quarter because Baker had a really

poor drive right before the half. But that's what they gotta do. They gotta they gotta go for it because they are an offensive team, they are a great offensive line. They don't need to Baber Baby Baker. And when Lamar had that fourth down play, I immediately thought they probably would have been better if he had just thrown the short one and they could have ran the clock down and had Tucker kicked the game winning field goal, because the Browns are gonna go back and score right now.

The only problem was the brown scored too quickly. Just crazy. I came out of the game on the Brown side of things, very impressed, obviously, um with their fight and their resolve and the fact that they just wouldn't die. But also Baker, who had been very up and down on his whole career because he's been an up and down player, but like he definitely has that if factor.

I think That's one of the reasons why the Browns took him first overall into when he's seventeen and like, he's exactly the type of dude, Uh you want behind center in a game like that, when it just became like this, like uh this two gun slingers just going at it. And it wasn't just that they went down the field after that Hollywood Brown touchdown and tied it.

They just went down the field with ease. I mean bringing back memories of that insane Chiefs ramshoot out from a couple of years ago, where it almost became like the rules of both teams and just the logic went out the window. Um, like, if you come out of this game, thing, oh, what is wrong with the Ravens defense? They gave up twenty two points in the fourth quarter alone. Well, yeah, the Ravens. This is not the old Ravens anymore on defense.

But also that was one of those weird special nights in the NFL where just everything goes crazy and you just sit back and enjoy it because, uh, you're watching something that doesn't happen too often. And and the only thing I thought, and I TechEd Mark, I very carefully texted you later in the night after the game, just

to touch base with you. The only thing I would have done differently, And I know it's crazy and it probably doesn't make a difference, but you never know, Um, Stefanski had been so brilliant and hanging onions all game, why not go for two when you uh go down the field and and have the chance to do it and maybe take the lead, and then who knows what happens when the Ravens get the ball back. That's the

only thing I wanted. You've gotten all the way at that point, go over too, and just try to steal a one point when in that spot. I agreed with you. I agreed with you. I mean, I think, like you know, there's logic on both sides of that, UM, but it would have fit their daring DNA for the night. I mean, I you know, I think it came down to one of those games where who made the more critical mistakes. And for as good as Baker Mayfield has been over the past, you know, two or three games, Um, a

mistake for you over the last month. I thought that interception was was a deciding a huge deciding factor. And Cody Parkey, who's been money for the Browns. You miss a gimme field goal and a pH and you look at how the game ended. Um, you know that said, I mean, I think I point to the Kareem Hunt.

Scoring too quickly is something that you know, this is teams a month removed from Nick Chubb, Um, you know, being being you know, kind of ripped for it but not wanting to do that and running out of bounds and giving the chance that the Browns a chance to run out the clock. I do. I just kind of feel like if you wanted to look at deep deep strategy, the idea of maybe not scoring there and taking it down to the very end, it's too hard there. I mean they were where where would that place? You know,

they scored so quickly. They couldn't have strategized on that, you know what I mean, Like it's just it's just one of those things like they went. They went so quickly, and that play wasn't even inside the fifteen yard line. It was a little short path. I mean, that is a play call you don't expect to score. If anything, maybe Stefanski is thinking about getting the first down and bleeding some clock. We don't know, but they scored too quickly.

I thought about them going for two there, but I think you know, the analytics move would be not to and there for the reason that you saw, which is that it's not worth the juice. Isn't worth the squeeze when there's such a decent chance that Tucker is gonna kick the game winning field goal anyways, you know, like you gotta get a stop either way. Um, and is it worth that that risk of not getting the two when when you know there's such a good chance, you know,

the Ravens can go score h either way. But I loved the fans. It's just I just wonder what happens if McSorley didn't get hurt. Was Lamar really coming back in that game? He said after the game that like, oh, I was coming back either way, But I don't know. He didn't have been that playing run out until McSorley got hurt and it was literally fourth down, like if McSorley had fumbled that play, which could have easily happened

the game's over. Let's hear from Lamar Jackson talking about the events surrounding his absence and in general the wild nature at the end of the game. There's been a great job dropping the ball down the field and down and as as I'm saying, going now like I'm still stretching, like I'm like, I gotta I'm catching the attitude Conte. We want to and then I see him down and we gotta start. We just got start running out the

kill running with me. It's fourth down, many tail off and godes me great kiches And he came out with a lot of talk on social media that you were kind of like jogging, like, yes, he used the bathroom or something was cramping. I ain't putting, Paul piercing. I didn't put I was cramping. I didn't, I didn't pull. No, Paul Pierce, I don't know Greg youary Boston Sports and I don't even know what that reference is. But really, yeah, they kind of forget what there was. There was a

famous Celtic. Yeah, there was a famous playoff game. She's was it against the nets? But he got pulled, he got taken off the field, in off the chair injury. Yeah, and he pretended that he was hurt. And then he finally and there had been rumors forever that he just had to poop, and he finally admitted it on ESPN A year ago, so it kind of came back into the news. He he did. He did say like, yeah,

I really was just pooping. But the thing is, I never I ever bought the poop story because of a lot of NFL players tweeting about and stuff, because like what what why would he be back there for thirty minutes.

It's the timing was just weird that he was suddenly able to come back in and then he could run on four Like every man and woman has a different journey when it comes to that world, and some people are in and out one, two, three, and some people you know, there's a candle, there's some magazine out, and

there's you know, there's some time to take. I don't know that is It's one of those funny like subplots that will always remember when you look back at this stage and vnefelt football what he said it was cramps, You don't know what it was. But I was amazed, amazed that all right, you missed one series. Okay, he's

gonna be back. When McSorley comes out on the field and they're losing, I'm actually a little bummed as a football fan because you wanted this game to go out, because the Browns and Ravens trading Haymakers with their best players. Then it looked like the Browns are gonna win because Trace McSorley was on the field when it mattered most.

So the way it played it cinematic really with and you hope mcsorley's okay when he wrenched his knee there, but for him to come in, run on the field, and then, of all things, to throw a touchdown past that really was remarkable. I mean I was saying in in, you know, to Simone and the kids, like I don't want them to sneak away with a win. With trace McSorley closing this out. Then Lamar came back on the field, and I thought, well, maybe I do, uh, maybe I do want to take it, you know, let's take it

like the crazy part. And and um Greasy kept pointing this out. You know, he had eighty one yards passing when he re entered the game on fourth and five, and he had eighty two yards more the rest of the way. It wasn't just that one throw, which I couldn't have been the only person thinking, don't throw it, like run for the first down, like oh, and then you see it's Marquise Brown has dropped everything. You're like, don't throw it to Marquis Brown, but he he actually

catches that one. Uh. It's also the next drive where it was a minute left and you're thinking, oh, I think the Ravens are gonna do this, but I didn't act them to do it, throwing all these out routes which they couldn't complete once the entire game. Suddenly he goes four for fourth throwing the ball to set up the win. It really was kind of an m v P. Put the team on on my back, like I'm just more athletic than everyone else in the field. I don't

know how far that takes this team. Their defense is a problem, I think, but they man the schedule sets up. I think it's this is the game that's going to get them into the playoffs. Well, their schedule is it's very workable, and I think that Dan's prediction that they would you know, run the table to get into the postseason is it will happen. And um, they suddenly look extremely dangerous now that they don't have you know, fifteen players on the Corona list. But their defense was looked

bad against Dallas. They they have no pass Rush, Kalais Campbell's a shell of them formerself and they are a spin at cornerback if they can't get Peters Um and Jimmy Smith back. I guess Peters did return in that game. That wasn't mean there was so much when they had a good job by John Harbor. What's it like to have a good head coach calling that time time out?

When the Ravens were about to have too many men on the field because Clays couldn't get off the field, they showed Klais like leaning over to say something to the Harbor, and Klais looked like he was like sixty five years old. I don't know if if something has happened and he's aged in dog years or something, but he looked like a beat up old man at that moment.

He's come back from an injury I think too quickly, had this calf injury, and he has he has been pushed around the last two weeks and they don't have much. But I hope you enjoy market is something cool that that was the game of the year. I felt like that was the game of the year in the first half too. It's maybe it's because of you partly but it's also like the history of these two teams, the fact that it's the biggest game, and I think that the Browns franchise has had in a long time, certainly

one of the biggest ever. Their chance to get Baltimore out the Lamar like being Lamar factor like that, I didn't even before the great ending. To me, that was awesome. And uh, I think it's a step in the right direction that the Browns are in the best game of the year, you know, in Week four and they were right there at the end. Well, I think it's highly surreal for most Browns fans. And you know, I heard moral victory thrown around a lot and I and I

get that. Um, I think the difference would be had they done that, if that game had happened between Cleveland and say the Kansas City Chiefs. I'm all about the moral victory, but um like, I lost a few followers a couple of weeks ago when I tweeted a rather heat seeking um diet tribe against the Ravens when they lost that Wednesday game to the Steelers, and and some of them were our listeners who I who I like, But you know they're in England and they became Ravens. No,

I don't even remember it was. You've you've probably you've heard anything I tweeted about them. You've heard me say before when I get irritated it's from a while ago. Um, I just you know, the Ravens are different to me, and I like I I really. One thing I like about Stefanski is that he completely shot down the idea of that specific opponent, um equally in a moral victory,

that that's not the case. It's not it is. And because I keep hearing that, you know, the Ravens are and I think for someone that lived through the move, it's different than if you picked up Baltimore ten years ago, or if you picked up the Browns ten years ago. There's just different, deeper layers. And we've been through all that. But you know, they called the Ravens Cleveland's big brother, and and the Ravens were also ripped from Cleveland's bellies.

So even if you looked at like Greek and Roman myths, the idea that a big brother is taken out of the stomach of a little brother is a plot that those myths didn't even attempt to cook up with. So it's a very odd, uh, you know, relationship between the two teams. I thought it was kind of cool to see um Stefanski and Harbaugh at the end of the game. They showed extreme respect to each other. And if there's even um respect going towards a Cleveland coaching staff at

this point, that is a massive sea change. So it is a step forward, Um. And believe me, like in in Dan, this will be the Jets at some point. Anyone that follows a struggling team at some point, if you live long enough, you'll it will be there. It's totally surreal. I'm not catching up with it. Um. Emotionally, I just hope that they don't flounder and somehow get knocked out by the Ravens because everyone sort of booked them for the playoffs and they have worked to do

for that to be true. They're not in yet. They things could go wrong. They've got to stick to who they are. I think they'll be all right, though, Mark, we've seen so much this year that they know how to take care of their business. That would be That would be a real change of personality for them at this point. And I agree with you. Moral victories don't take you very far. Especially when you have a chance

to beat the ravens of all teams. But uh, yeah, like when we were texting yesterday three years ago in April, Mark and I were in the cozy here at the bar in Los Angeles by our office. Uh taken a shot because market team had taken Baker number one, and and the Jets took Donald number three, and it it felt like the a new beginning. The Jets obviously have gone the total opposite direction and or worse off than

they ever were. But look at where the Browns are now from then when they were coming off their own oh and sixteen season. So there's so much to be excited about. And m two two quick points. First of all, Justin Tucker. You guys know my feelings about Justin Tucker. The fact that it felt like it was a done deal when he's on the field just tells you everything

you need to know about him. Just drilling a fifty five yard or to the open air state, the end of the state with the eyes of the world on him. Never a doubt that guy is a Hall of Famer to me. And how about a name for the game. What do you think about the Holy Game? Yeah? That works? On multiple levels. Like it? Why not? I like it. I want to speak one thing into existence. Well, then finish your finish what you were gonna say, Dan, No, no, I'm speaking this into existence because then in in the

way I see it, then this will not happen. Um, there is a scenario where the Jets and Dolphins end up in total hell. The Jets and Browns end up in total hell. Where if the Browns lost to the Jets, if Sam Donald outdueld Baker Mayfield and the Jets beat the Browns, and it's somehow compelled to knock the Browns out of the postseason and the Jets out of the first overall pick, that would be very dark. Back to the cozy, I don't care if it's closed market. But um,

and yes, that was a certified lock off. And uh it gave me no pleasure to feel your pain. Mark. But I gotta take the w and move forward to Dan Hans shout out. I gotta take that dub well over Erica too. She's um And just when we knew, Justin Tucker goes the smoke that field goal when Erica aligned herself and she she was hammling and hauling. Should I picked the Ravens or Browns. When she picked Cleveland,

you knew it was all over. You knew it was all over, and sure enough, that's how it played out. Way to go, Erica. Thank you, Erica, you on the show. There she is. Yeah, I don't like this narrative being not a narrative. It's it's actually now just the way society is and your that's your your fate within this realm. I really thought the Browns were gonna pull it off when when they went down and scored, and I was just like, this is it? Like I was really really

rooting for it, and maybe that's that's my downfall. Yeah, don't don't blow this Brown's I don't think they will either, but don't blow this. Don't blow it. Funny win, win that game in New York, beat the Jets, and then have like a dead boring game in weeks that don't even thweat it out in week seventeen. All right, there we go, Mark, we can close the book on that game. I'm sure it will never come up again. In fact,

as we're taking us, it's playing on NFL Network. I know that for a fact, and uh, you you might have to deal with some replays of that for the rest of the time. But you know that is I guess the price of being involved with a classic game. Uh. When it when it goes your way, you love when it comes out all the time. When it doesn't, it's just one more thing that makes life kind of annoying. I will take it assuming that they replay a game that they win at some point. NFL Network they seem

to specialize in playing Brown's Heartbreakers. I don't know if it's a personal note towards towards myself they have to choose from. Ultimately, I mean, I feel like it probably outrages anyway. Let's move forward. All right. It is the holiday season, Greg, we're smack in the middle of hanaka or Smokey Robinson calls it Chanooka, and uh, I know that's a big time celebration in your home. No, we don't.

Sometimes people that like aren't really that close with me, they'll like text me like, oh happy Hanukah, and am I always torn of like do I bother to tell them we don't celebrate anika or not? You got a manure in the house. Oh wow, so you're really not? You are hands off? This is a hands off your borderline anti Hanaka, No, I'm all about it. I'm I support it, but I wasn't raised that way, so it hasn't really big. We're off to a flying start in

this holiday segment. We we do have Christmas trees up all across the south Land and uh with Christmas here Hanaka Kwanza's role in big time. So let us share our wish lists. And I know, for instance, my kids Jack is just learning how to write. Um, so he sent his letter to Santa. H Harrison, just a boy of barely four years old. So I helped make his list, which I think just had slime on it. It was

very limited in scope. Those were sent us to Santa, and then Santa hopefully listens and and brings the children the gifts that they they desire. So why don't why don't we put together our own holiday wish lists? Here hopes for the rest of the season. How we wanted to play out Mark, do you want to get us gone? Sure? Um? You know, I I think that I've had to take a long look in the mirror at my attitude towards the Los Angeles football teams in the December and the

holiday season is the time for healing and giving. And I want to give a gift to um, not the Rams necessarily, but but the Chargers, who I think that they've been through a lot this season, and well, you want to give them a gift with I might have the segment wrong. I thought we're asking for something or are we giving something? I thought we're putting. Yeah, it's a wish list. It's like we're we're like those little children writing to Santa. Well, I never I obviously didn't

master the writing to Santa part. I will suggest that they. I will speak to someone inside the Charges organization. We know a few um to put this on their wish lists. Tell about that because I think they don't They don't know about this object UM, but they they will like it. UM and it is. It is bridget. It is bridget supercomputer logical minkstress um. Because you know the Chargers to an embarrassing level. We know that they can't handle end

of half scenarios, end of game scenarios. It's become a national narrative and it seems to travel from era to era and coach to coach. They may have Eric b Enemy paired with Justin Herbert a couple of months from now. But even if they stick with with Anthony Lynn, who were who were fans of UM, they could use Bridget, who is a as far as we know, technologically advanced UM also a bit of a biting and she she's not gonna mince words, She's gonna tell how she does.

So I think the Chargers need some tough love good and I would just say, let's give them Bridget. It gets Bridget off the hands of this show. I don't have to deal with her again, so it helps me as well. Any gift you give someone else should partially help yourself. You basically have brought her out of the dumpster.

I mean I had I had forgotten about the Bridget five thousand and if if I would have had one wish that that you would have granted on my behalf was give me a little heads up on this bit. I want to have Bridget like sinked up for major laughs for the audience. Well, we I did speak to our producer about this, and it's up to her what she chooses to do with that. With that part of it, UM, what was that Bridget good? One mark? Not good? One

mark not? Bridget's one of those characters on the show where I could just remember which bits brought the most anger to Mark and that was one of them, to the point where Bridget had to be thought in a dumpster because I needed to keep the show floating for another you know, decade or so, so we could, you know, pay our rent and things of that nature. Well, I I went, I sorted through some of the other clips that she has at her disposal, and it's all like

Greg is back on the acid. Mark has no good thoughts, Dan is hot. Oh, Dan made a mistake, no worries, Dan, how would you have known? Uh, you know, things like that. So it it felt, you know, get it out of our out of our ecosystem, and give it to the chargers, enjoy it bolts. So the logic here is that Bridget

helps with time management. Yeah, well you know, Bridget, I think if you were to reconfigure her system, a bit could become one of those They apparently don't hire anyone from the analytical community, so let's just give them a robot to handle late game situations. So she mean bridge it on the headset with Eric b Enemy or Anthony Lynne. They'd be like bridgets got a handled see In this case, you could be like Anthony, do not run the ball

with twenty seconds left and no time out? See unbelievable. Greg is back on the acid. All right, there you go. So the wish is that the Chargers have bridget the robot to help with clock management. All right, Uh up next Greg? Alright, Um, they do have this like mailbox in in my neighborhood where the kids drop off. They're wishless for Santa, which is cute. We did it. We have a we have a tree. I do wonder like, is this another like way they're collecting personal information? Who knows?

Who knows? Just a beam of holiday sunshine. It was great. I love we got the tree. We got it all. I'm I'm asking for something just a little bit after Christmas. I'm asking the football gods for a week seventeen that matters because I'm looking ahead and I am seeing a scenario year where the final week of the season has what they call in in tennis or cricket, sometimes a lot of dead rubbers, a lot of games that don't

really have an impact on what's moving forward. To imagine this, and this is the all of these are about are more than fifty fifty to happen. So it's very possible a scenario where the Chiefs have already clinched home field. Probably the Steelers have already clinched a f C North but have no chance for home field. The Packers have already clinched home field, very possible considering the Saints matchup

this week and the tiebreak advantage Green Bay. As the Rams have already clinched the NFC West, all they gotta do is beat the Seahawks, Uh, the Seahawks, the Browns, all these other teams are in and we just have a whole bunch of Week seventeen games that don't really matter. Maybe we have like a Cardinals team playing arresting Rams team to make it into the playoffs, and that, in some NFC East nonsense, is all we get in weeks. I'll give you another example because this I was looking

at the schedule this morning. Let's say, by the grace of God, the Raiders beat the Dolphins next week, and that becomes an stone cold race for the seventh spot, and then the Dolphins need to win against the Bills and a great division showdown. But the Bills locked up the East and can go nowhere. So they don't another way, don't play their starters, and then the Dolphins end up getting the seventh seed, potentially by default against a bunch

of backups. It's it's it's for real. It's a concern here. I think part of the thought of making just one team get to buy you know, you know, you're you're trying to get an extra playoff game basically, But I think one of the side effects is taking away that second by. Yes, you're adding a seventh team, but you're also taking away that second by. And especially this year where there's no home field advantage, why would why would teams?

I wonder, even if the Colts and Titans would play out all out to win the division like you would, you would assume they would, But I don't know. If they're both in the playoffs, do they really care that much? Would a week off in the middle of this pandemic be a little more valuable Philip Rivers and Derrick Henry than trying to get the four seed instead of the

sixth seeds? Like I don't know. I would play for the matchup you want in January, if there's any way to do that, you know, versus the seating like the Browns fans are great that that that was the first time the entire season I felt like there was any level of home field advantage. Not that it was huge, but you sense that that game was being played in front of humans and humans that were fired up and you know, maybe a little close to each other and

not practicing masked diligence. But at the same time, it felt like a real crowd there. If you look at the numbers, I haven't checked in a while, but the last time I did, the road teams have a better record than the home teams this year. So yeah, that is a big part of this too. I think if you're playing at home and you have no fans, it's almost weirder because you have like muscle memory of remembering there being seventy thousand people. But to your point, Baker

had to quiet that crowd last night. There is one thing I like about weeks seventeen, whether or not the matchups are good or not. And I'm with you, Greg, I'd like to see four or five that that really matter. But um, you are sort of waving farewell, and I don't mean this is the way I normally would mean, where it's like all you know, get rid of these teams. Like you're seeing teams for the final minutes until next September. And there is something really weird about weeks seventeen where bang,

they're gone, They're out of your life. They're just they vanish. See you, Zach Taylor and Brandon Allen. It's like, we'll miss you, but not really some of them. We do need to say goodbye to um. All right, I will I will go next. Alright, So I wish that J. J. Watt is playing his final games as a member of the text. You know, so many great memories for what he's been in the league since I believe two thousand and eleven or twelve, and uh, you know, the Defensive

Player of the Year awards. Um that cut he used to reopen above his head, right above his uh, his brow line, and then he would bleed out like the iron cheek and a cage match every week. The infamous Varsity letter jackets before the Patriots blowouts, know those, the grueling injury rehab efforts which are commendable. That Hard Knocks season where he set up his own private workout under

the lights, which was awesome and fun. The noble and wildly successful Hurricane Harvey relief fund, which raised this is real forty one point six million dollars, making it the largest crowdsourced fundraiser in Houston and history. Uh. He's a Houston deity. But it's time to let him go. He's thirty one years old, he has one year left on his contract. He's owed seventeen point five million. It's not guaranteed. The Texans could simply UH cut him and move forward.

They could trade him, which feels like a better route potentially for them, as long as you play ball at j J. And send him somewhere where he wants to play. But I don't know how many years Watt has left. I know he's not the same guy he used to be. T J has probably even eclipsed him within the family rankings of defenders in the NFL. But wouldn't it be nice to see J J. Watt playing for a contender uh in the twilight of his career. It would. It also would be a tough first move for whoever is

coming in there. There aren't many players I think that are more beloved. He needs to kind of put that out there that he's part of this decision. He doesn't Yeah, he doesn't strike you know, he he he always talks about how much he loves the Texans. You're right, maybe

maybe things could change. It depends on who gets there, but that that would be a tough one for whoever is coming in and being the general manager, because by the way, I think he's still a good player, Like I think you could get something for J. J. Watt because his contracts fine. He's still really good. He's he's he's not quite a pro bowler, but he's not far

off of that. I would just say, because you have Deshaun Watson and it seems like some of the stuff there is fixable if he were super fired up about who they hired as coach. Um. It's just I'm with you, Dan that if he's if he gets um sunk into a more depressing version of the Texans going forward, he's earned the right to go somewhere else, and uh, we've earned the right to see him win with a team that knows how to organize. It'd be nice, it'd be nice.

I agree. This popped in my head because after they got their ass beat thirty six seven by Mitch Drabinsky on Sunday, he was quoted he said, we gave up thirty six points today, we're not competitive. We gave up thirty six points, And it just seemed like he knows

what's going on here. The Texans are in such a weird spot because you have the Deshaun Watson, who can speed up any rebuild obviously, but they're in such a hole because of the Bill O'Brien GM experience that they're not gonna be able to get better quickly, especially on defense without any draft resources and j J. It could work for both sides. JJ gets a fresh start at the end of his career with a contender, and they could bring back a draft resource that they desperately need

after those deals at the end of the Bob tenure. Uh, let him go, but only if he wants it, and he and Greg you're right, he needs If they're going to do this, whoever takes on this job, and I don't think it will be Greg Easterby, JJ has to be out in front and saying he's part of the decision that they've mutually decided this is the way to go. You just tell them, Gregg easter Be, that was a slight on me, really. I mean, if Jackie uster Be

just at this point, just let them go. I mean there will be you know, torches and pitched I think. I think after that Sports Illustrated profile of easterby something tells me Easter, these days are are numbered. We'll see all right. Uh, Ricky, you said you had one? Yes, yes, okay, so hear me out if there's anything not necessarily positive that has come out of COVID. But my wish for this Christmas and you know, goes into the next season, is that I hope some teams and reporters kind of

take a different, similar approach to training camp. You know. I want them to have the normal training camp time and a lot of time and practice. However, I don't need to hear that Randall cobb as was taking more you know reps than normal and he's gonna be the you know, wide receiver one. I don't need that in my life, and I don't think we all. I think we all do. And Mark's pumping his fists. You must agree with me. Just let them have their training camp,

give us our limited access. Let's leave you know, the narratives and the bs alone, and let's we'll see in September. So you don't want you just want to skip training camp. Well, no, I just don't want me to media to have this access that creates these narratives that we talk about for months on end. That means we ves this is an annual Yeah, this is an annual market mark bit. I like it. I mean, now you've said that the weekend. Can we just fast forward to the season, is what

she's saying. But a rare member of the media saying less access, please please keep us out billionaires. I like it. I think there's a difference between, for instance, billionaire Stunner from the woman that grew up with that Healy pad. There's a difference between like what Mike Garafolo said the other week, where he you know, you got to give reporters access to give us information and to develop stories

that should be told. My thing is more not about the season so much is that August training camp preseason thing. I personally thought that the NFL this year, with no chance to play the Pro Bowl, that should have been gone as a game ages ago in the preseason. It got fixed for you by Corona. Okay, we don't need the preseason one game. I could do one game, like maybe the idea of even one game or two games where one is just simply no veterans or whatever it is.

But the idea of that team is still playing five preseason already worried about I'm not. At least you can be grateful. This was your dream year, Erica, with virtually no access in training camp, it was wait, wait do you of that? What is that? Oh? Silence, it's nice, it's quiet. I don't care who's showing up late and doesn't seem like the hearts in it? This training camp. I adore it. It. I I will stand up for

the everyman. And when you make people that love your football team and want to be season ticket holders pay full price for those two preseason games, that is hoke um to borrow a damnage? Because so yes, I'm all for uh defunding the preseason. It feels like a long way off. It feels like another world. Uh, Mark, you got another one? Well, I do in in Colleen fashion, I honestly misunderstood the exercise and I gave a gift to someone, so I don't care. Go ahead, I'll do

it real quick. It's actually a gift for Erica. It's not based on a recent comments. But um, you know a little bit off the NFL sector to some degree. But if we don't have a podcast, we don't have the NFL. Enost Mark, it was it was a tough night at the Sessler house. I want to learn more about the garage house dynamic, because the way Mark told the story was that he started the night watching the

game in the garage and the Browns did well. He goes to the house, the Ravens strike back each time, and then at some point Mark just threw his hands up and said, I'm gonna be with the family. I believe what's left out there is a bit of a dust stop between Simone, your lovely wife saying Mark, grow up, don't blame us for the Browns get in this house, and and Mark went, okay, well no, Like she knows

me well enough. She's like, if you're gonna be super stressed out, She's like, I totally get I totally get it. But that's fine if you want to watch in the garage. I just started to realize the idea that, like when I was twelve, I used to stand on one little tiny patch of carpet during Brown's games for three straight hours. Um, because if I moved off and I thought they lose. It's like I don't have powers over maybe adn't move it off that spot. Well, you're you're not wrong, alright,

So my gift for Erica. Shall we get to it? All right? So, Erica, UM, Because I think it's in our best interest that you stay safe and sound, I am going to clone um Eddie spaghetti uh and have him stand watch outside your apartment against any additional creepy men asking you to open their frozen pizza boxes and cook their pizzas and borrow your knives to cut the pizzas and maybe do other things with knives. Um. But

there is one catch in our technology. UM. The cloning technology is a C plus C plus at best right now, So cloned Eddie UM would he'd be standing there very guardlike and consistent, but with like two percent of the Eddie's real personality. UM. He also has like a ravenous appetite, so you ject if he essentially yes, you and Jet would have to make um bowls of fresh, piping hot spaghetti because according to his name, that's the only thing he'll eat. UM. On the ready, he eats a lot.

He has access to your restroom. Merry Christmas, but I do think that the upshot will be that cramp you would stay safe from Hooligan's unless he's in the bathroom. Well that's part of the price, but thank you. My wish is that the next time a mentally unhinged stranger comes to the door and asks Erica for a machete, a pair of gloves, and to turn off the security cameras, Erica doesn't go, okay, okay, because sign me up? Do you want my credit card? All right? So they go

Eddie Spaghetti Frankenstein Monster to protect Erica. Mark, you are on fire today. I love it. Um. My second one connected to Monday Night Football. I believe that the Monday Night Football crew earned their button last night. And I know Greg's gonna push back on this, but I think they've been very good this season. Steve Leavy play by

play Greasy Lewis Riddick. Um, I think ESPN should take last night's game, which I thought was really handled well in a huge spotlight with tons of twists and turns back and forth. Um, they they found the moment, they rode the moment, and it felt like we're all watching the game together. Steve Levy goes down in Monday Night Football has his iconic line of his own now and here comes Lamar Jackson. They'll be playing that for years.

When he came back from the locker room, and my thought is, ESPN should put a ring on the finger, make this relationship legit. Um, we know that tested to our booger arrow was an obvious mistake. Uh, and this current set up wasn't their first choice. But give me this team with solid chemistry over shoehorning. You know, Drew Brees or Drew Carey or Drew Barrymore or whatever. Uh, just let these people grow together because I think it's

been a really promising rookie season for that trio. Well, Drew Brees is signed with NBC, you know, unless they had a clause in their contract. Um. You know what about Drew Barrymore saying that he couldn't get into any hot water with some some hot takes. Remember that. Remember when Drew Brees broke up the Saints locker room forevermore over the summer? That was fun. Uh yeah, really I really haunted them this season like that was like we

needed something. I mean, it was rough. Um. I do like the the theory behind what you're talking about because moving to another booth next year is basically admitting you're like the early has Lamara Browns that like, we can't like no one can last with us for more than a year or two. And you're making this crew into being Rob Chadzinski, which isn't isn't fair to them. It's basically a bad It's showing what poor management ESPN has to go for some consistency. I think they've gotten better,

and I think that's a good sign. I mean, week one, I thought that Kirk herb Street and friend were, UM, Chris Fowler were had just have flat out more mystery, and it concerned me that like a couple of weeks in a row and these other games got put into prime time because of Corona, that they were outshining. I thought the Monday Night Crew over and over, and yeah, I was waiting for the version of Louis Riddick that we get I think in UM talk segments and on Twitter,

and I think we're getting more of that. UM. I heard him this morning on on Dan Patrick and he did an excellent job with his observations of the game. So I think just letting them be more of who they are UM I'm with you, Dan, I'd stick with it.

I don't want another crew starting from scratch. Um, I don't think it's the I think they keep trying to recreate magic from the eighties when it was really special to watch Monday night football and have a three person crew when usually a two person crew just simply as the way to go these days. But if you're gonna do this, um, I think they've earned it. In my own concerned to be that Louis Riddeck could be pulled

away to a front office sooner than later. I mean, I keep hearing that, and there must be a reason you keep hearing it. I mean, if if Riddick were to go, I think it would survive with no disrespect toward him. But I think I really liked Greasy all I think he's done a good job, and I think leave he's a pro. Um. Those are the two guys that jump out to me more than perhaps Rick does.

But like, as long as Greasy is an acting like no one else in the country has watched Carson Wentz play, it's just like like sometimes where it's like be up to speed with where the rest of us are in terms of our cynicism sort towards certain players. Sometimes it's like this over celebration of both teams where one of the teams has major issues going on. Be real about it, because we're not. We're too savvy as viewers. It's a tough spot. Leave he has never done NFL games. To me,

that's the hardest job in sports play by play. And and I think you can just see out there there's a there's a big cast of characters with a ton more experience being on NFL play by play. So if they're gonna do this, you gotta be patient with him. All right, Greg, you got one more. I'll throw in just some speed round ones number one. Let's let's get

Brian floor as the coach of the year. I'm so impressed with Brian Flores when one of you know, beat the Patriots, beat the Raider and uh, you win coach of the year. Love love him. I want to see Alex Smith back in the lineup. This better not be the end of the Alex Smith story. Give me Week seventeen and Alex Smith being carried off the field for the Division winning football team. If this calf injury is it, that would be a big time bummer. And then this

is for all the writers around the NFL. We don't do it as much anymore, but the Cowboys just give Dark Prescott his contract like January five. Surprise everyone that there's no drama to it, that the story is over right there, like just on a on a quiet Tuesday, way way before the playoff games. Here it is. We

don't have to worry about it. When I heard like greecey or something, it was some or maybe it was Think, it was like, there's gonna be one heck of a negotiation coming up, was like, give me a freaking break every year, Erica pay the man. Yes, my wish is that hopefully with the vaccine being rolled out and everything for Christmas, I would really love to go to Tampa for the super Bowl with my best boys and get to be in the stadium and watch the Super Bowl

and then do our tradition after the game together. I would love that too. And we can't even tell you what the tradition after the game is, but it gets wild. Um. I would love that. But that ain't happened. We have not. Let's be realistic here. We've been very blessed to go to every Super Bowl since this podcast started, uh, and even a couple of years before for Mark and I. But obviously this is a very different year, and uh,

I got a good feeling. This will be the first a t N podcast we do from back in l A covering a super Bowl, which will probably be a lot easier of a lift, but you trade the lift for the experience of being at the super Bowl, because there's really nothing like being at a super Bowl any uh. For that game. It's Week one that feels more realistic. We're not going to be you know, cutting the line for I don't think they're gonna have us cut the

line for vaccines. Mark and I already got vaccinated. Let's do We're good, Let's do kickoff weekend, you know, give us send us to the week one Thursday game, do a special podcast there and to celebrate. I mean, it will be weird, but a lot at like the Super Bowl week festivities where you're trying, you know, you're one of like thirty um rotund uh, you know, pasty journals attempting to get uh, you know, Russell Wilson to say

three words. UM. I will miss that, but I will miss it in the sense because like, will that ever happen again. I don't know, but there's a lot of you know, we will not be we will not be apprehended by the FBI on a boat out on Florida waters. And you know, Tampa is probably gonna be on fire. They don't even know that coronavirus exists, so we are probably missing out on what would be gonna escape from

l a society. I thought you were gonna say we're missing out on a great case of coronavirus that we would catch in Tampa. Well, we definitely would. And I would, you know, get my phone stolen at a bar stool party and then get locked under a tree in a hurricane with an uber an hour away. That can't that won't happen this year, and that's upsetting. I'll quote Don Draper. And by the way, that's what you get for going

to a bar stool party. I'll quote Don Draper, Mark Sessler uh and and because what you're saying is basically, what is more of a super spread than than media

night at the Super Bowl? And totally true. Just like the scouting combine as well, and a lot of body odors and sweat and it's just not pleasant in a lot of ways, but Don Draper and Madmen speaking to Peggy after she had her secret child and she had the Child of Shame and spoiler alert, and Don Draper, who of course was Dick Whitman in an earlier life spoiler alert and started over and hid his past and moved on, says to Peggy, it will shock you how

much it never happened. Move forward that what's going to happen here. As much as we're in this moment in life with with COVID right now, I just get the feeling that in a couple of years after hopefully everyone's vaccinated and it goes away, if all these things that you think are never coming back actually do come back, because it will shock you how quickly people can move on and just move forward. I think there's gonna be

a rever but people going absolutely crazy. Um or Or that will be one of the greatest pull quotes we've ever had on this show. Um If society continues to go down the two I mean people, people who moved on in July in this country, that's the pretty much we're like, yeah, we'll take it, we'll take it. So if nobody's getting sick from that, particular bug anymore, it will shock you how much it never happened. Maybe we'll

we will have not learned our lesson. But that's a conversation for another time, all right, before we uh move on. So there you go. There's our wishes. It was nice, good seg enjoyed it. Here is the first game of Thursday. Wait real quick, real quick. A wish from all of us before we move into this Chargers preview, is that what you're previewing on? UM. We wish that Chris gets feeling better and is with us for every show next year and maybe even after Christmas all together, all of

us wish the listeners wish we all wish for that. Absolutely, Ricky, it's been a really hard year for this podcast and for West. It's been an unbelievable battle and the times of struggle, uh almost all time, perpetually a struggle. It's a It's amazing how brave and tough that dude is, especially with a newborn in the house. And Lakeisha also, she's the new Lenny Distra. She's nails. Shout out to Rhoda, her her mom, Keisha's mom coming into town and whooping

and hollering for her favorite player, Lamar Jackson. Last night she was unfortunately for you, Mark, they were she was on the right side of that lock off. I am, and I love her enjoyment of football. Um it got in my way last night to some degree, but I totally honor her enthusiasm. And And when I called Lakeisha uh Jackson Westling a version of Lenny Distra, I don't mean the version of Lenny Distra whose teeth fell out

and was getting gel over fraud, consumer fraud. I mean just the hard nose grinding uh, you know, to take one for the team vibe. And that's what she's all about. All right, Let's get to everyone's like, who the is Lenny des Let's get to the game to be played on Week fifteen, Chargers Raiders. I'm into the game, not

as much as I a month ago. This felt like it would have been a great game because the Chargers, yes they're they're Even a month ago, the record wasn't it, But we all loved the excitement around this team with a young quarterback. But there's been more of a depressing um and true and fitting l a fashioned kind of a smog that's now settled over the Chargers with Anthony Lynne being in over his head and Herbert coming down

to earth a little bit, and the Raiders. You know, obviously, this is a team taken on major water, the USS crowden. So they have one last chance here at seven and six at home to keep their season alive. And then if you win this game, and like I said, you got the Dolphins after that, who you're chasing for a playoff spot? Who knows? You ever know, but you gotta win this one first. Greg, do you think this is not gonna happen? You think the Raiders are just gonna

completely implode and continue to go down in flames. I'm torn because the Chargers have looked worse even though I know they won on Sunday overall, you know, over the last few weeks than they have all season. But I think I'm gonna take the Chargers just because I want it to happen. It'd be kind of fun for me

to see the Raiders go down in flames. It's too bad Podcast is not a fan of the I've I've wanted to be, I really, I mean, ultimately, Nelson Aguilars like their number one receiver and they're an offense first team, so how far are you going? Because since Gruden has taken over, they are dead last thirty two or thirty two in UH expected points added on defense are allowed on defense, and so that hasn't changed each and every week. And and if the Chargers win this game, I think

it'll be because Herbert plays well. He did the first time against the Raiders. That was a really fun game, a high scoring game. UM that the Raiders won at the very last second with Isaiah Johnson, you know, bashing that a couple of plays out on the goal line or else they would have lost that game. Um, Joey

Bosa is playing great. Austin Ekeler's back playing great. How about the Stars show up for the Chargers and bury their arrivals that Raiders well, And the Chargers didn't have Joey Bosa in that tight contest earlier in the season, now they do. I look at a Raiders team that's given up a hundred and fifty points over the past four games. We all know that the defense is a disaster. Um, Jonathan Abram has a concussion. Nicholas Moreau, their linebacker is

a concussion. Clellen Farrell has a shoulder injury. They have fourteen guys on the injury report right now. They're really banged up. And Gruden talked about the fact that like I think, you know, there were there was residual Corona effects with this team too, that they I mean, they just were battered on defense, on that, on that, on that sense and have never really recovered. And uh, you know, to me, like the last two games for Justin Herbert,

I don't know if teams have figured him out. I mean one was the Patriots game, but his two of his lowest three yardage outputs have been the last two games, and so um that's coincided with Austin Ekeler coming back. I don't know if that threw them out of their normal offense a little bit because he's been really productive. But they've they've looked a little different to me, I mean the Raiders. Um, I'm not anti Raiders, but I just be like any of these teams that get into

the playoffs, earn it. And they've looked like a team going in the opposite direction the last few weeks, which I think, you know, Dan, why you're appropriately lower on them, Um, earn it. I don't have a lot of faith in them. They seem to be coming a part at the seams, and you know Gruden is firing a friend and a defensive coordinator as sort of a scapegoat. But some of this falls on Gruden too. They can't run the ball. They have ten turnovers over the last last three games.

Derek Carr, you're gonna be the bizarro version of Derek carr Um. You need the best version of these guys. Can they do it on Thursday night? Josh Jacobs has not been a I know he was back in action this past week. They need to get back to what they were doing when the season was going well, which is running the ball, being a tough, physical team, hitting hard on defense, being smart, keeping the penalties to a minimum, which always seems to be a problem with the Raiders.

And then Derek Carr just has to, you know, avoid killer mistakes. I can't, Like I said, I don't have the confidence in them anymore, but I just it just would seem strange to me that a team that was playing as well as they were um including those two great games against the Chiefs, without any major injuries or COVID disasters, would just completely go in the tank again.

So it's still the it doesn't quite add up to me, which makes me think, who knows, maybe they come out of a funk here with a big performance against the bad Chargers team. But at the same time, if you pick the Chargers, Greg, I don't think that's crazy because the Raiders have done nothing to earn our confidence over the past month. Almost. Yeah, the Raiders are a better team. I'm just picking for for what would be fun, and they've missed the people just like to watch the world.

I like to. I want to see Justin Herbert lighted up that, because to me, that's probably the best The best chance for a really fun game here is to two pretty flawed teams in the thirties going back and forth. I can envision that sort of game. But I don't like that. Gruden's doing the thing at his press conference this week where he says, hey, I never make excuses, and then he like lists fifteen injuries and he lists fifteen excuses, like, you don't see that. I know. It's

only like their converse. It was like, you haven't heard that out of Kyle Sannah, Hey, you haven't heard that out of a lot of people. It's like, uh, I've heard it out of Grooden you, I'm with you that the Chargers will take this thing because you can't rush the passer. Justin Herbert's not going to be, you know, terribly taxed mentally by what the Raiders do on defense.

I'm predicting. Uh And I see the Raiders as a team to your point, Dan, like, why were they playing the Chiefs so well that, you know, there's been whispers that they've had bad practice weeks, you know, here and there. They get up for games. They get up for the Chiefs, but then they totally don't get up for the Jets. They don't they totally fall flat against Atlanta. Where are they mentally? Like, do they feel like a team that is prepared to do whatever it takes to get into

the playoffs? They play the Dolphins next week, But if it's a motivation issue, then they should play well in this game because this is a playoff game for the Raiders. Lose their seven and seven and totally cooked. So there

you go. I believe Mark and myself will handle the recap of this on Thursday night, uh uh, in addition to our week fifteen preview that will come on Thursday, So be on the lookout for that, and good luck to everyone sorting out their own Christmas wish lists in their home, trying to deliver the goods for santam All right, that's it, Dan hands As signing off for a quiet storm. The old Boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the glass still Thursday,