Radio Row Day 2: Super Bowl LVII Preview + Mad Dog Chris Russo

Sports my grandfather? What did I say to you between no between day one when Mark's talking about his hotel suite and you know, being a king, and now you're saying we're the most famous people here. Well, it's aid a broadcasters. So you know what do I say? You know, flying to you want to go put your buddy Pat McPhee on on a little throat. No, you're you're the one saying that you were ready to ride with the narrative and then you're you're you're coming at us all

of a sudden for riding with the narrative. Took it too far. Zolac was looking like especially at something's going on, like we we walked by him on the way to the set. Zolac a k the sentient Powerade bottle of the NFL media. Uh, he now has kind of like am I would say, almost like he went to a stylist and he's got like a really like a blind really and then he got new glasses. It's it's it's it's a whole look. It kind of looks like a

professional wrestler. I didn't see I didn't encounter him, but I've seen him in the past and he's like, I use a large framed individual, large sunglasses. We are indoors, so that's it's a choice, right, that is a move. Um. This is the super Bowl Preview episode, super Bowl fifties seven Eagles Chiefs and thank you everybody who checked out our first show from Radio row here, sorry media row here at the Phoenix Super No the Arizona super Bowl. UM got a lot of positive feedback on the Jamal

Williams conversation, which I uh was happy to see that. Yeah, I think people thought that, you know, I think he helped take it right to the goal line for us. He was a wonderful guest. But we did our part. That's what we're what we're here to do. If we weren't here, he would have been speaking to nobody on

the show. Absolutely, And we got a very special guest coming up as like kind of the halftime of today's show, our good buddy Chris mad Dog Russo is going to uh talk some super Bowl props and just catch up with our our pal Russo. And UM, we're gonna break this down into two parts. Greggy, Okay, I want to get into it. Want to get into the super Bowl play like for real, like hardcore. Get into the game. Come a big game. The Game's gonna happen whether we

do it or not. It would be interesting one of these years if we did a whole Super Bowl week with the guests and whatnot and talking about our nights and we actually never previewed the game, would anyone notice or comments? No, not at all. I Uh, it's about it. It's a it's a football guy's dream. Even though this game, here's here's a here's a good here's a really good stat in terms of where we're at on this UM to fourteen and three teams in the regular season that

both sixteen and three, both number one seeds. I love this one. Both teams scored exactly five forty six points this year. UM, And you would think would happen more the number one verse number one, but it happens where it team gets picked off. And yet it does feel like, boys, that this is the matchup that we were destined to

see and now we're about to see it. There's this there's one other mirror aspect to that little that's that tweet has been going out all over with the six all pros on both teams, including the Kelsey obviously on both teams, and their quarterback like this is there is no real like both are so complete. I just feel like this game is gonna be like nine points totally. Yeah, Mark, how about both teams have four point six yards per carrying one? And it felt like that was the bullet

point because it's not doubt that didn't help. I like the years and I remember them too, when in the Super Bowl you get the best two teams and it kind of you've been on this journey. We're covering the sport throughout the course of the season. There were other great teams this year, Like it wouldn't have been crazy if the forty Niners and Bengals were in this game. But I think of games like Saints Colts. Those were the two quarterbacks who were the two m VP candidates

for the year. They were the best two teams all year. Great matchup, you determine who's the winner. Saints get it done, Seahawks Patriots to me, the best two teams in the league that year, not the MVP candidates, but the number one offense, number one defense kind of too, you know, franchises. And then now here's the number one m v P. He's gonna win it tonight. We're taping on Thursday, but we know he's got and I believe Jalen Hurts will be number two in m VP. They win in different

sorts of ways. Past running all that, but it's it's beautiful when you just to turn. It's easier to remember too, Like when we're doing this in ten years, we'll remember this one. Who knows what about last It's like I'll remember that RAMS thing that was kind of weird. Hopefully, hopefully we get a classic that we're expecting because you know, let's be let's be honest, the postseason hasn't always uh delivered on the games that we thought were home runs. Uh,

maybe this one makes up for everything. And now you know, and we're gonna make our game picks are the m v P picks, our sandwich props, all good stuff. But let's start. Let's break it down this way. Let's start with the Eagles offense against the Kansas City defense. Gregy, I'm gonna tee you up to start here. Um, it's

an Eagles offense that obviously does just about everything well. However, we haven't seen that offense in full flight even throughout the two playoff games, at least on one side of their attack now, because Jalen Hurts hasn't quite been himself, it's gotten a little lost in the Mahomes injury shuffle. That Hurts his lowest three graded games according to PFF. For instance, uh three out of his four lowest graded games in this season where his last three that they

haven't been lighting up. They haven't needed to because of their opponent, because he's made some timely plays early, and because the running game is good, and because of the defense. And to me, his rise is what this is all about.

And I know we want to talk Eagles offense first, but I do want to just think big picture too about this game, like the rise of Jalen Hurts and in this matchup is the rise of the Black quarterback, Like I think about how the sport and how the league has changed since we started, uh doing this show, and for every year I used to do QB index Marks doing a great job with it now and every year it's like, oh, is this gonna be the new generation? Okay,

luck in cam is here? Is this the new generation? Uh? Here comes to more people? Is this the new generation? When is it gonna change? And like Brady especially just would not let it go? And Aaron Rodgers wins two m v ps and he wrote and he would not

let it go. And then this year we've talked about all the twentiesome things in these playoffs, but but especially when you look at Hurts specifically in the black quarterbacks in general, it's not just these two guys in an historic matchup and Mahomes being able to maybe be the

first black quarterback to win twice. It's to Uh, it's Gino, it's Lamar Jackson, it's Dak Prescott, it's Kyler Murray, it's just in field, and we sort of don't even notice it at this point, but you look at it compared to ten years ago, and it's a different sport and Hurts specifically in the way that they run this offense in part through his legs um and just the style that it's very different through Mahomes, Like it's here, the

new generation is here. It's a beautiful thing, and it's cool to see these two guys who are so different, Mahomes and Hurts uh in the biggest spotlight. And don't sleep on the symbolism that Tom Brady retired like he was the guy you mentioned the guys that didn't want to let go and and Brady, to his credit, even going into this year, was still a superstar. Now he's

probably gone gone gun. Yeah. I think that the transformation that you've mentioned has a lot to do also with new thinking when it comes to coaching, because it was a bit of a change when Lamar Jackson and the Ravens and Harbaugh decided we're gonna take Lamar Jackson do what he does well and based an entirely zig when

everyone else is zagging offense around him. And I look at Nick Sirianni and where they were with Jalen Hurts a year ago and how they transformed and changed that offense midstream and change who the Eagles were and where we are today. A lot of credit goes to Nick Surrian. Know, I keep thinking, I feel like he's just underrated and

overlooked at times. He's got this team playing loose, They're they're absolutely like a wonderful vibe Eagles team, and what they've done with Jalen Hurts is stands out is one

of the best coaching jobs of the entire season. And just to put a button on what you were saying, like, this is the first Super Bowl that's featuring two black starting quarterbacks squaring off um and yeah, you when you look at like the breakdown of the percentage of quarterbacks in the League of color, it is, it's it is so much different like the football we grew up on that like Randall Cunningham for instance, or Warren Moon, those guys were outliers in the way the league looks Now

it's turned in the other way and in Doug Williams like and it's look, we're we're three white guys talking about this, but it's like a black league, and it's always in terms of the athletes that around the field, and it's always been it's been off and a lot of the quarterbacks, like Doug Williams and like Jalen Hurts, frankly, have had to come through different ways, like late second round pick. He did bounce around in college. You weren't quite sure he would ever develop into what we saw

as an NFL quarterback. And yet the NFL has kind of changed and Jalen Hurts his decision making has improved leaps in bounds and I and that's we can talk about the past game, but in terms of the run game, his decision making to me is huge on Sunday, and the decisions a lot of time are gonna be do I hand the ball off or not? Because it's an RPO offense. In the Chiefs defense has struggled at times against r P O offense is struggled. There's a lot of numbers that when it's uh a passing down, they

really struggled to stop the run. And the Eagles are great at doing that and Hurts, I think it's gonna have an opportunity when they eye up and and the Eagles kind of the Chiefs have to prepare for either Hurts to hand the ball off or keep it and go around, and I think they're gonna or maybe he just hands the ball off and it's a regular inside zone or he throws that little bubble screen. It's like every play has got these three options, and he's done

a great job deciding. And I have a feeling the Chiefs will maybe dare him to be the guy who does run at sixteen eighteen times, and we've seen games like that, and I think they might have all the weapons that the Eagles have, might dare him early saying like, we'll live with you getting five six yards running hurts and we're gonna try to hit you and kind of play it that way. I mean, the Eagles have the

highest run rate out of the spread formation. The Chiefs have allowed the most yards of any team in the league against the spread in running situations. I mean, there are little ways that you can find advantages for Philadelphia. The Chiefs are the middle of the pack v o A against the run um. They have only four teams in the league found a way to contact rushers in the line of scrimmage less than the Eagles. So it's like there's there's a way for Jalen Hurts to make

that decision. You're talking about less than the Chiefs. Yeah, I mean they've been ineffective on that front. And then you look at the Eagles their road to the super Bowl and and Hurts his road through the season where he was dominant m VP candidate. I said on the show throughout November into December, I thought Hurts was the m v p uh, even over Mahomes. He hurts his shoulder, he misses a few weeks at the end of the

regular season. He comes back, and there's questions, especially in that Division round game against the Giants, like how close is he to healthy? He was acknowledging he wasn't fully healthy, and then they blow out the Giants by halftime and they get to change their game script. We everyone knows what happened in the forty Niners game when their quarterback got hurt in that game went sideways. So Hurts wasn't really He still really hasn't been tested to beat a

team with his arm if it comes to that. And I do want to see that one step that kind of jumped out to me was a J. Brown, who uh was one of the key pickups that any team had this season. It was a brilliant trade. I'm sorry Grave Digger that we're hitting this up one more time, but he really unlocked that all all started on draft night for the Eagles. As as Justin Graver's heart was breaking, It's not so much that he couldn't do a live

stream reaction to it. No, that was a must and like the most thirty year old move of all time. But um, yes, so here we go, Erica through the through the the phone in my face and said, instant reaction, go, you know I don't like this. You keep blaming thinking Eric was happy. Here my heartbreak reaction be aired live to all of our followers. In Justin's defense, yeah, I

thought he showed Eric a great amount of respect. We ran into one of our former producers, the irishman, branding to get us right down the hallway here at media Row, and uh, they were talking it up, the producers. It was like the old girlfriend and the new girlfriend. It was a bit of some energy they're going on for that would be our there are girlfriends in this situation. Um. But then at one point Justin referred to Erika as

his protege. Well, no, his mentor, mentor, she was his protege, yes, right, because that would have been a massive power move if he if he called her that mentor you called Erica he was my mentor how about that. I think he's he's he's showing appropriate respect. Alright. Anyway, Ricky Holler, you shouldn't have traded A. J. Brown, But I know you

knew that. Anyway. He gave a season low minus twenty seven receiving yards over expected UH next gen stats in the Division round it was minus sixteen and that was the third lowest of his season. UM. And that doesn't mean that A. J. Brown isn't playing well or or he choked in the playoffs. No, there's just um that connection isn't quite there. You want to see what happens with those guys together, especially if Mahomes starts putting up points and they need to attack. It's been there all year.

I throw the Niners game out the window. I just don't really care about what happened in that one. But the Chiefs, you know, they are a rookie laid in secondary. They have the fourth worst passer rating aloud against the deep ball, and Hurts outside of Ta has been the most effective deep ball pass from the league because of

DeVonta Smith, because of A. J. Brown. So I see another opportunity for Philadelphia to make points, to get yardage and to score early in this A larger point with that though, is just because the nature of the way of the playoffs, uh post season played out for Philly, we still haven't seen them have to really open it up other thody to play here and there. Well, Hurts has to hit those shots because I think they'll be there.

He missed them against San Francisco and they were they were a go ball team, like they were a deep shot team. And the way the Chiefs played defense, you know, they they play a lot of zone. You think of Steve Spagnolo in a certain way, man to man coverage and lots of blitz, very aggressive, I think because he has rookies. That's not who they are at all. There there is zone defense, they don't blitz as much. They're they're pretty average. I mean, he still cooks him up.

I'm sure he will. We can get to that. But they do play press coverage though, and that's to disrupt guys like a J. Brown who lives on slants and he's the number one receiver in the league on slams from disrupting. And they have big physical guys I'm thinking of Jalen Watson, especially their rookie who's just like a massive dude, a rare guy who can match Brown physically.

But that's why a J. Brown, especially DeVante Smith, can kill you because he can make it look like he's got to go to a slant and then bam, he is down the field. And I think Hurts is gonna throw four or five of those and you gotta you gotta hit two or three. And that's the Eagles offense. And if they can do that, then it opens up everything we know. I think they can run regardless. And then then the Chief's defense is in a world because

it's actually a pretty good Chiefs past defense. It's not a good Chief's run defense, but they're pretty good against the Beast if they can hit those deep shots forget it. I mean they have allowed more passing touchdowns than any team in the league. But I think this isn't I look back against what happened against Cincinnati, that that the defensive line Chris Jones, especially created havoc right out of

the gate. That's not going to happen is easily against this offensive line, which is the best in the league. So he's been Chris Jones has been unbelievable down the stretch here. Uh he had six pressures in the n f C Title game, uh, his third most in the game. He has more pressures than any defensive tackle in the sport since Week ten. Uh. Now, we know Philadelphia's offensive line is a strength. They have strengths all over the

roster um. But Jones, I think is gonna get his because I think he's one of those guys that's locked in and he's a premier player. But you need that. I feel like you're gonna need certain guys on this defense, and it's very important that the Chiefs look like they're gonna get snead back in the back end, step up and make plays and slow down this Philadelphia offense because they've gotten out of the gates so hot. Throughout the season,

Jones has had a Aaron Donald like season. I mean, Donnad got hurt and said Jones kind of stepped up as the best defensive tackle on the league. And he would have been last year too if there was no Donald, but even this year he went to another level. I think that's their chance is in the interior Jones, you know, versus say, say Malo or Dickerson. Like obviously Jason Kelsey is great and the whole Eagles offensive line is is

very good. But if there's I think much stronger on the edges, uh with Lane Johnson, with my Latta, and especially when you look at the magic, I don't think the Chiefs edge rushers are gonna do anything like Frank Clark's had a nice little run in Karlaftas, but I think that all sort of ends. But if you look interior, it's it's Jones and then they move Karl Loftus inside on passing down and Dana has been playing great for them, and so those three guys kind of rushing on the interior.

Can you get Hurts the kind of bail out of the pocket? He was doing that because he wants to throw from the pocket. He's either like running or throwing from the pocket. He's not Russell Wilson, who's like scrambling and then throwing on the run. He's more of like he wants to win from the pocket or he has a called run, you know. I mean, we've avoided the Kelsey VERSU Kelsey thing because it became ponderous almost immediately.

But for Jason Kelty, it's a lot more attention to obviously put on Travis Kelsey because we see him scoring points. But it is a huge game for Jason Kelsey. It really is like the whole interior line. But I think like he is a key figure in this entire event. I'm looking at the middle of the field with with the Chiefs. That's where they give up a lot of

a lot of plays. You know they're gonna have, you know, they're two linebackers Willie Gay Nick Bolton on the field sometimes because they're gonna want to try to play a little heavier to stop the run. And that's where it's it's Dallas God time, you know, working the middle of the field, and then the running backs out of the

backfield probably have those linebackers on him. And I think we see a decent amount of Kenny Gainwell, he's better on passing downs than Sanders and and some of those you know, just like six seven yard throws and and forgot her, it's often a lot more. I mean, he's among the leaders in yards after the catch this season. Yeah, God, it's a guy that jumps out when you're like, who's maybe not an m VP candidate in this game, but who's the guy that can quietly wrecked the game that

no one's talking about um. There's been a lot of Isaiah Pacheco talk on the Casey side, but God, it does jump out. You got Devanta Smith obviously obviously have a J. Brown. They have this running game that when it gets really cooking, is absolutely dominant. But God, it's one of those guys. He's in such a good spot because they can run the ball, because they could beat a d because Devant Smith has developed into a number

one type guy. He's got a lot of real estate and can make plays when the passes there and gets there. I mean, it's two teams that spread the ball around to so many different people, and I think Philly just has They're so versatile. There's so many different ways to attack Kansas City that, Yeah, you wonder just from a defensive side that the Chiefs and others some of these other games, it's like we know who the weapons are and this one it's like it could happen from any

any place on the field. It's fright. I still look back on that Kyle Shanahan Falcons team that lost the three League that inspired the cinematic masterpiece eighty for Brady, that's so influential because I just think that is the NFL right now is you need five to seven guys who can make plays and yet it will get to the Chiefs offense. But they don't have the stars, but

they do have the depth. And that's the Eagles except even better to Before we move from the offense, one last thing though, isn't I am I, you know, like to get into the nitty gritty, But I do like narrative. I like narratives too. I like them both the narrative that were the greatest broadcasters And that's not a narrative, that's that's facts. Wait, we talked to Andrew Mark and our friend at the New York Post. Yeah, great guy, just catching up with him. Good dude. His brother is

a long time listener to the show. Dan's angling for that huge exclusive for our next contract ext front of the New York I thought it was just me, but then we're talking to Andrew and uh Greg made a special point. Uh Marshawn said, so I'm like, oh, you guys are doing pretty good, and Greg was like, we're doing more than pretty staring h we're the best or

something like that. Was like why Greg is appropriately strategic? Also, well, he said something to the effect of like, well, you know, you guys get big enough, I'll be like doing you're exclusive, And I was like, I was like, look, we're already the number one. Uh you know, football just football only show. You know, if you take you gotta take out fantasy. We are flying high close to that song. I staring at them. I'm loyal to football, That's right, I am.

And uh I am loyal of this Eagles team too. And one one narrative, one last thing going into last offseason was Jalen Hurts versus the Blitz. He was terrible last year and then he just looked totally scrambled in that game against the Bucks. They won that game because Todd Bowls outwitted Sirianni and Hurts and scheme beat that great offensive line for Philly. Her It was just it was an awful game for Hurts, but maybe the worst game of his career. And it came in the playoffs

and there was a lot of the Blitz. And now here we are against my old nemesis back. What's he famous for cooking up those creative and uh, he's famous for them peeking at this time and I know he doesn't do it as much this year. But I do think like this is gonna be one last time for Hurts to answer that question, and it's been up and down this year. Actually, his numbers versus blitz aren't like amazing. Um. Certainly they did find against the Giants, but they were

just so much more talented against Giants. I thought that the forty Niners weren't blitzing early, but they certainly had the Eagles scrambled. And just can spags create two to three big negative plays or turnovers, because I think that's what the defenses are gonna be really needing to do in this game. I think it's an offensive game. But if you can just create two big plays and then that old bugaboo for Hurts comes back to me, that's like his final level to answer to to be covered.

Like you, like you think about the possession chart for both teams touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, field goal, field goal, if you get interception, refumble return in there, that's how these this kind of reminds me of its Eagles, Like how it's just like a points explosion. I mean, yeah, we've been trying to predict how these games are going to go on the playoffs. Uh, not just the predictions theselves, but the feel and the flow of the game. And

we're not. We haven't always been right. It's been keeping us on our toes. God, this doesn't this feel like it's going to be a shootout and aggressive. We know Philadelphia is built defensively when we're gonna get to it after our guest is built to make big negative plays with their pass rush and create turnovers. Like can the Chiefs rise up and and do that as well? That's

that's what's gonna be about. I don't think there's any way this in terms of the Eagles offense where we're talking about Sunday night, then they scored thirteen points tonight, Like I think they're going to put up points, and then it becomes a matter of can that great Philadelphia defense slow down the Homes enough to get the I mean, only injuries or catastrophic errors would have us talking about an Eagles team that scored undertreak because the putting up

those big numbers is getting sevens instead of threes. And like they're just so good in the red zone. In the Chiefs, I think we're thirty first and red zone defense, and yet here they are. Don't forget about that double cheek push that they have up. You know, they've always got that up. Speaking of things, I don't really need to hear that much more about obsessed with the double cheek, but outlaw the cheek push. Don't outlook, oh Rugby. I

don't care about anything about it. It's a football play, nonsense. All right, Let's take a break, Let's get the mad Dog in here, let's talk. Let's just catch up. Let the Mad Dog do some super Bowl talk with Chris Russo, and then we'll talk about the Chief's offense v. Philly defense. We'll be right back. All right, Let's take a break from the Super Bowl preview and welcome a man who needs no introduction. I'm gonna do it anyway, the legend Chris mad Dog Russo, back for I think the fifth

straight year. How are you very good? Always a pleasure, great to be here. You guys do a super job. Guy, nice set the way we go. Yeah, well, and let's talk. I mean, listen, we all grew up listening to on the radio, and then you built out this great empire at serious post W F A N. And now for like the real mad dog heads, this like next level to your career with the first Take stuff, and like, uh,

in addition to the mlbast what is going on? You're having a out of nowhere at sixty three years of age. You know, is been lucky. I have some private theories on that. Maybe my wife wanted to get me the hell out of the house or something. But I've been I've been lucky, you know. I mean, I got a huge break with the first Take thing, and it's all because of Stephen A. Smith. So, I mean, he's the one who asked me to do that Hall of Family as here at Bonds and and Clemens when they did

not get elected under the last try. Text me on a Monday on January, I go ordered on Wednesday, I do two or three seconds. It was the week after the It was the Wednesday after that pack of San Francisco in the Game of the snow So there was I'm Brady with the Rams. So I was allowed to talk about And the next day ESPN said if I want to do once a week, there it is the next day and I took two weeks. I was here at the Super Bowl. You know, I agreed to you

know what they were asking. I didn't beg that I they gave me an offer, and I took it, and I've been doing it ever since. I do it once a week. You have followed it. There's somebody do an extra couple when he's away. He's got a nice Johnny Carson contract, whereas away in the summertime. So do an extra couple there? Uh, And my job there essentially I got two. I have two roles there. One is to give him a little break because he does it five days a week, and he knows that I can take

some of the load off him. And I think, you know, any talk to your host. Let Himan used to I used to sense that a letterman, you know, do letterman so many times that when he knew he had me out for the two segments, I could carry the segments for him and didn't have to work for the question I need. And I think there's a little something that going on here with Steven A. I think that not that he needs, but I think and the other thing that about Stephen A that's very that's very good is

he allows me to be me. So ESPN has allowed me to have those nutty segments for seven or eight minutes. I did one today about the what I'm mad about. So I did one. Today was the first one I've ever done where I did it in front of an audience. So today I did Rogers, you know, in the cave and trying to figure out what he's gonna do with his life and cheating, cheating at the A T and T played with ten handicap. He's a three index and he went to tournament the pro him last week. So

I did that. You're fired up about the Rogers, you know, making a big spectacle to himself. I bet yeah. I mean, Aaron, can you let us snow? Are you k for five days? My crazy? He's a three handicap and he played with it. That's what we like to call this show, a La ravio magnifico. Yeah, had a second did you know the second place guys go to ticked off, including Keith Mitchell, who's the plow He said, this is a joke. He's

not a ten, he was a three index. They gave him ten strokes anyway, I mean one by a stroke. So I did that. I did a Lossky the ESPN guy who somehow didn't have auto Graham, Joe Montana and United in his top five quarterbacks of all time. That's a layup. Let's show Greg's super Bowl quarterbacks list. I do have a list of quarter Oh, Auto Graham never played in a Super Bowl. My my list is the best quarterbacks of all time. And I had uniteds. I think I've got him to ahead of my second at Montana.

He didn't have either one of them. I come out, jeez, so I screamed on him. And then the third bum was Kyrie Herbring, who's a freaking lay up. Don't let the door kick in the rear. Right on the way out. I got an audience behind me, old waven first tech signs. I got a camera there, Steve, and he has got a sunglasses and hey, go do it? You so yours six minutes and you know me eight o'clock in the morning, let's get him going. So that's exactly the last week

to you had Mike Francis. Yeah, we did well. The problem with the Mike thing was we got overwhelmed because Brady quit. So Brady retired at eight o'clock in the morning. So it was supposed to be sort of a Mike and a man dog thing, and then Brady eight o'clock in the morning. Must not like Mike and a man dog. I love him. I love Brady and he and he announced the Instagram at eight o'clock in the morning, so

he changed the show's focus a little bit. It gave us something to talk about, but it took away a little bit of the Mike and Chris tank. So, I mean the bottom line was last year. He did it on the day of the selection Sunday. It's very pinpointed. He knows what I think. You're in your Brady the you know you're in your Brady post. You know, two thousand and fourteen, Right around two fourteen, people like, oh, Brady, he's about to get and then it ended up being

the best years. Yeah that's fair. Maybe there is, but I've been loved. I've been very lucky sixty three years of age. I mean, it's awesome to see you thriving still at this level. I wanted mentioning Brady. I hope we always like to hit you up and like what you're watching with TV. You're into movies, But I want to narrow it a little bit. And you know, I'm

a cynical guy. I guess because Brady timed up his retirement with the premiere of his movie, which had him in the national dialogue, and then the movie does better than people think. Last weekend we got one of the co stars. I imagine you have not seen eighty for Brady No, I missed it. But what is the best football movie ever? I don't want to put you on the spot here I can come back to remember for the Titans is obviously one that people going to remember. I tell you the movie that I love. I love

the movie. I don't want to quote a football movie. I love We Are Marshall, okay with the plane crash in nine and uh in the p I'm petebont a away And if you resurrected that football program, I love that movie. I'm a good fan of that. That's a good answer. So you you you did that. You have your quarterback list, and I think these lists I get a little auntie about, like all the legacy talk when

these guys are in the middle of their careers. But with my homes He's gonna be there at the end of yeah, and I'm not even worried about where he'll end up. But like I've seen enough now just just in terms of how he plays quarterback, Like where he is right now, I think he's the best player I've ever seen play football. And do you think he's the best player you've ever seen? Just I'm not saying what is stacked up and this and now, I'm just taking

everything into account. Very well. Could say that, um, he's going to the hole of if he retired tomorrow, he's a hall of family. If he retired tomorrow, you and I here next year, would probably put him top five all time. To be number one, you need more than one. But I just mean like he's playing. He's playing the game at a higher level than anyone's ever played, better than months had I think, so, I mean we were

too young for that, so I sort of discount. I think I would look for a player comes from the Homes and the Kelsey brothers. Uh did they have their podcast? And they last week were introduced to the Drive. They

hadn't really watched it before. And play by play, you see what Elway does, and Elway does a couple of things on that infamous drive where he looked to me like Mahomes, And I think it's easy for us to forget that like Elway, if you were not another candidate for this, it was just like a play, just like at his very peak. If you were not a Broncos fan, he I feel this way. If you're not a Chiefs fan, Elway would frustrate you to the the depths of your bones,

and I think Mahomes does that. If you're dealing now, I say one quibble about Mahomes, and it's not his fault. He's never played a role playoff game. Because he's so good that this good played a role playoff game. He's never get there. He'll play plenty. L Waits was in Cleveland. Yeah, the dog Biscuits and road playoff games. I mean if road play I how if I give you that one? Is that fair? I mean if we were measuring by

road playoff games? Though, like Mark Sante's is a legend, So I mean never, they're gonna win that division every year and get that home field. But I do I do want to see I would like to see him play in Orchard Park on a five degree day. Uh you know in a absolutely that dude. You can make an argument he's the greatest of all the time already you can make that argument. Would you mind doing a few Super Bowl props with us? Yeah? We always have some fun. Let's do it. So let's get to betting.

This year has been terrible, but go ahead. I want to focus on m v P right now. They got Mahomes plus thirty hurts plus one thirty both of them, Travis Kelsey plus sixteen hundred. I saw this on Twitter, mad Dog his SEVENI he's played seventeen career playoff games, the equivalent of one season in the modern league. Now, in those seventeen playoff games, a hundred and twenty seven catches, one thousand, four hundred and sixty seven yards, fifteen touchdowns.

This dude is a dog. Greggy is Patriots fan. He gets upset when I say that the Kelsey is better than Gronk. It's not even a They absolutely believe Kelsey could blow up and take the m v P in this game and cement himself as better than Greg's hero. I think the problem and I he's great, and he is an old timer. The problem with taking Kelsey in his game if he has a huge game, the pension is always to give the m v P to the quarterback,

So you know he has to be phenomenal. I mean, let's face it, I mean there's not many times the receiver wins the m v P on a winning team. You know Rice did in eight eight against Cincinnati, but everybody only remembers to drive that Montana led against the Bengals to win the game, that John Taylor, but Rice when the m v P, it's very, very difficult for the receiver on a winning team to win that award because most of the time the receiver and awayning team,

they're gonna give it you to the QB. So that's the problem with going with Kelsey, and that's why it's plus sixty. But it's a good point. It's pretty much it's good job on your part. Brand, that's a good job by you performance. Uh. I think the first thing I'll do with the props as you gotta decide who's gonna win a game, and then I think you work with that. If you think the Chiefs win, then you run with chief props. If you think the Eagles win,

I think you run with the Eagle props. Uh. The one thing I would say the Eagles are better two through fifty three. The one thing that you have a problem with is the best player on the field place for Kansas City. And if your life's on the line, you're gonna take read over Syrianni throughout. When the fact, if you look at the history of the at the court at the Super Bowl, it doesn't always hold out.

But usually the first time coach against the guy who's been there before, the guy that has been there before usually wins. I mean example, you know the one McVeigh and better Chick mcgley one. The next year Strand against Lombardi Strampi Bud Grant shoot a loss to Dallas, and then he turned around and beat the Washington Landry lost his first to coach. He came back and won the next year against Miami. So it's not all the time because Doug Peterson won, but a lot of the times

I like that experienced coach in that scenario. So I think that's a little advantage for the Chiefs. Plus, the Chiefs is gonna be all motivated by how bad they were two years ago, and they were bad. Offensive line was bad. There play a lot better, So that makes me think that maybe something with the Chiefs. But pound for pound offensive line, defensive line the year they've had, the Eagles are better. So if you like the Eagles, you take maybe you take I wouldn't take Hurts running.

He hasn't run that well, I wouldn't go there. Maybe you take the pass. What's Goddard the tight end I'll look for. But I like that. I like the Eagles running like Sanders over under a sixty one and a half. To me that the two constants with these teams actually that they've had some Their defensive have gotten better, but it's been the pat two constants all season. That hasn't changed is the Eagles are one of the very best run deep offenses that we've seen, and the Chiefs are

allousy run defense. And if you think back to that Jaguars game, they were running all over him in the first half of a similar sort of RP. And you think to that Bengals game that was no match because they're missing their offensive lineman. And to me, Sanders in that running game, that's the only mismatch I see in this game. I think it's overstated that the Eagles have such a better roster. I think the Chiefs have a nice roster, but that's one big advantage. I like that.

One the only negative about the Eagles. They have so many weapons. Brown tight ends good. I gotta get Davante Smit the ball once in a while. They have homes Hurts will run a little bit, Boston Scott will get the ball. The other kid that got who's played? Well, what's playoff? Kenny again, he's got to get the ball. That's a lot of mouths. Defeed to get the sixty yards for Simon, So that would worry me. He's gonna

need a big you might need a big way. He may only get ten carries, so that's what we're worrying me there. But that's a good one. No, sixty yards to the m v P. What's the yard? Does he have a yards or a tight end? I like that one. This one is trenchant um. This we don't need to spend a thousand hours on this. But the color of the first gatorade poured on the winning head coach, we've got yellow slash green lime that strange one at plus one forty five, we've got orange plus three hundred and

blue plus three fifty. What do you got? Wasn't it blue last year? Well? A question, and that's how I know they answer. When you're playing tennis in Connecticut, right, what are you drinking? What's your energy drink or is it water? What do you do? It's I do not drink gatorade. And course it's keeping you looking very young for double. You know when I was like, I love saying, you know, there's so much doubles played, so you have

to play doubles because that's where the games are. The problem where doubles is I don't do the two things that is important for doubles, serve and volley, because doubles it's all about getting to the head and putting points away servant volley, and I'm better running around all over the place keeping balls and play and I don't want to go out there and have to serve on my volley on my second serve, and that gets me in trouble in club. Imagine playing tennis doubles against were cut

from the same class described on my profile. And I hate to tell you this, it's it's a painted the neck when I play the tennis as I used to play Wednesday night at six o'clock. So I'll leave this, I'll lead the radio and I'll run to the courts. And a lot of times the people I'm playing I don't know them different club, but they know me. So that's the role. Now they get in on they want to go home and tell their wives. I kicked Russo's.

Then I put pressure on myself. I can't embarrass myself, and then all of a sudden, I go off the I go off the rails, which bothers me? Or false pickle ball is the scourge of I can't stand there. Yeah, yeah, but tennis guy, they're always going to be aligned on. That's for a lot of old men and old women. Let's go out there and well, what's wrong with that? That's fine, that's fine. Put it on TV before we let you go, Chris, and thank you again for joining us.

You help us out with something, because it's become a really, uh a point of contention on our program going back years now. UM, and we're talking about the what is the more iconic Super Bowl play? Um? The helmet catch of Giants Patriots one or the Philly Special? What is the more hold on? You gotta explain why it's Can you explain why you can? So we have something like sandwich props and we if you win these before the

Eagles Patriots explain it. Super Bowl. I predicted that there would be a play that um became a nicknamed, infamous famous play and would become the biggest in Super Bowl history, and then the Philly Special happened forty eight hours later, and they're telling me it doesn't hold water to the helmet catch. I didn't you sa had. The words were that it would be more iconic than the Help. I don't like the Philly Special because they never gonna score touchdown,

ever gonna store touch anyway. I'm done. They ever better? Don't you know what? I don't play. I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you a weird one. Okay, it's a nutty one. DoD BB at fifty two seventeen, ball over that iconic play. I mean, they got crushed in that game, but I got to play. How about James Harrison? That's at the end of the Cardinals Steelers just catching the same game, but certainly not Philly Special. Chris, I hate that play. You like that? I know, It's just that

I have I had a dog in the race. I predicted this kind of thing with popping, so I've got a fight. Wasn't that a first down play or the half? I don't like that play. I mean they were gonna score anyway for clan out. I may never bring this subject up again. I knew you you should be getting royalties. When people say that's a good job by you, I do. I do want to ask permission though we are going to use you destroying his argument. You can use the

sound drop on our show. Can we do that the future? No, not at all, So why would you pick that? That's it was just came into my and he don't like it because he's a pension. Of course you're dead out of the way. I don't like either one. This is the best day of my life, Chris Man Dog Russo, you aren't. Seriously, we look up to and the best of wishes to you going forward in this. The Russo

renaissance is just right now. It's gonna stop. Eventually I'll say something stupid and that will be the end of it and then you won't have me on Super Bowl. Now you've challenged us. Great to be here, guys, you're the best. Oh, I got the Mad Dog in my corner on the Philly not so special? Come on, Sissy. I mean, if I really right now, if I really wanted to dig into, you know, the childhood mythology of listening to Mike and the Mad Dog for so many years,

I really could have gone at him. If I wanted to, but I'm sitting next to Chris Russo and it still feels somewhat surreal to me. And I was just sort of like listening to him untangled and destroy me word by work. I did try to go at him here. They're just that's my way to get get his respect. Um, but we are going to play that Russo sound drop coming after Mark for years. He was almost insulted you

would even have such an opinion. I think the one thing that was lost a little bit due to my lack of, um clear explanation, was that I predicted something of that nature with matter h. I mean, I don't care what your responses. I am now battling myself to speak on the show. Or you might have an actual tag team partner who is actually yourself here. So that's that's weird. It's weird interesting, all right. I'm with myself also, But that was awesome. I love that dog. And here's

a little insight into this. And we say this every year just as a reminder because we have a lot of overseas listeners. I don't even know who Chris Russo is. We do a lot of things. Of the things we do directly for the audience. What would the audience want? This is the two that's fair USAG But what strangely has happened here boys, and we talked about it with Chris. There's probably a little more than two percent the Russo renaissance.

After he finished with us, he goes to the next set over and picks up an NFL Network stick Mike, and he's on NFL Network. That was not happening a few years back when we had Russo on. His stature is really shot up getting involved in the talking head world. Stunning late career planning by him. And I think he's got that Pete Carroll youthful vibe gene going on with years old. I don't know how long I love, but don't pretty good. It's a good job on me. I

love it. St w Is all over that sec All right, and now time for the Sunday Dry presented by Toyota. The Chiefs they want to dub over the Eiggles. They're not going to get it unless they get a big time performance from their offense. So let's talk Chief's offense versus that Philadelphia defense. Mark, I'll start with you on

this one. We actually heard uh mad dogs say it's it's a well worn kind of trope by now as they get closer to the game, it's the Chiefs have the best player, so they got number one, and then you know, two to fifty three or whatever is more Eagles. Okay, sure that makes sense, but this is gonna be a challenge for Mahomes, who's less than and we have a all time and I mean all time Eagles pass rush going after the great Mahomes. Yeah, because it's a trope.

I still feel like Mahomes is gonna find a way to be there with that final possession and it's gonna be up to him. And I think there's a lot of probably angst and annoyance about how the Super Bowl went a couple of years ago when their offensive line was banged up and that neutralized Mahomes. But now you're dealing with the nastiest pass rush that we've seen in

a long time. I love the idea and the concept that Jonathan Gannon, defensive coordinator, early in the year and throughout the past couple of seasons, has been lashed on Philly talk radio as this like sort of guy that you want to scapegoat. It's like this team last year about I guess. So they were thirty first and sacks a year ago and you had guys like Fletcher Cox not buying into the scheme. It's completely flipped this year. Fletcher Cox with eight sacks. They are They've led the

league in this. They're so disruptive. I think the Chief's offensive line, which is a quality line, is gonna need to play the game of their life. I mean, this is like they've had fifty one sacks on non blitzes and so we've always talked about it with the Bradies and the Mahmes, if you can find a way to get to him, if you somehow compromised on that ankle, which it's been twenty two days since that injury. He

looked fine. He found a way to play in the NFC title and he didn't look perfectly physically fine, but he made that run at the end. It's like myhomes

just finds a way. And this is an offense that's evolved and changed, and they took the post Tyreek Kill challenge, and I think Andy Reid is obviously one of the greatest masterminds around for what they've done to adapt this offense without right and the two to fifty three, if we're gonna start kind of talking about that line matchup is overstated because like, Okay, Jason Kelsey might be uh

Man considered for the Hall of Fames someday. I think most general managers would take the Chiefs center Creed Humphrey a second team All Pro this year. Uh the interior line with with Tuney and uh and Trey Smith, like, that's maybe the best interior group in the league. And they're great running the ball, and they don't do it a lot, but there's some stats that that show in terms of getting penetration in the run that the Chiefs prevent that happening, especially on the inside, as well as

any team in league. So they can run the ball, they can probably slow down hard Grave and Cox Fletcher Cox like more than than most teams. I think the matchups on the out sider where I'm intrigue because Andrew Wyley's you know, he's he's okay, Orlando Brown's there, he's a big dude. But you mentioned Reddick, you mentioned um, you know, you have Josh Sweat, and then I'm looking

at Brandon Graham, who I still have nightmares. But that Super Bowl you know, people don't really remember the Brandon Graham play at all in front of us, but that's the play that ended the game. That's the one that won the Super Bowl. And Brandon Graham, UH, to me, is typical of this team that they've kept together. UH. And it's great that they only use them. You know,

thirty snaps the game. He's their third rusher. But when I went back to watch that NFC Championship, he had Trent Williams on skates on one play where he just overpowered him. And that's like the strongest guy in the NFL, Trent. Brandon Graham seems to be playing like a man possessed right now. I would watch for him specifically on Sunday. He's been through a lot, he's as fresh as can be, and he's an all time great Eagle And so those edge rushers on the outside, I do think that's where

Philly can can get some damage done. The Eagles one of three teams in the Next Gen Stats era to have five players or thirty five plus pressures this season. Reddick led the way of sixty two Hardgrave, Sweat, Graham, Fletcher Cox, guys that just get there and it's gonna be so interesting to see. Here's the thing Mahomes is not, but you want to hear like one of those things

that makes Mahomes not human. On that scramble, the one that got him the first down and then the push out of bounds that got him to field goal range, he was at eighteen point one four miles per hour, which was his fastest scramble of the playoffs, including before

the ankle injury. So like to me, that kind of answers any question I have, barring an actual true setback where he gets rolled up on in this game, that he is in this zone where he's gonna grind through and if he has to move, he could still move, and anything about what else makes Homes great, There's so many things, but his ability to avoid pressure and sacks

and scramble. There is nobody better in football. There might not be anyone better period in history of sport at evading pressure and not only evading pressure, like anybody can look at my buddy Zack Wilson. Anybody can scramble and do pirouettes and throw it out of bounds. Um, Mahomes is an assassin when he is being chased and when he's on the run. He can still pick a defense apart. And he's also great at a deep dropback when you have more time to throw. He knows how to buy

time hit a receiver. He is the perfect anecdote to anecdote to this pass rush, and I think that's very interesting. I think the other X factor though, is that that the pass rush sets up one of the best secondaries in the league. I mean, a guy like James Bradberry has allowed the second fewest receptions over expected all among all defenders. That Vante Maddox is back, Chauncey Gardner Johnson is back at safety where he had six interceptions this year.

Darius Slay. It's like there isn't really a weakness or a weak area in Phillies defense for Mahomes to attacks, So it's gonna be it's even more on him just to be Mahomes. Then there's the other aspect of how, and we're gonna get into this more, I think. But like how the Chiefs changed their attack post Hyreek Hill and uh Mahomes has never been more efficient and many

of his touchdowns were ten yards or less. The Eagles d one of their strengths as they allowed the lowest passer rating on intermediate passes this season, where mahomes bread has been buttered, especially obviously with Kelsey. That's another part of the croup and that's that's one of the things that the Eagles fans were frustrated by, is like maybe they played a bit of a soft defense, you know, zone defense where they let you go up and down

the field. That with these seven yard throws, and that's what a lot of defenses have tried to do to Mahomes the last two years, and he adjusted and he got better at it. And you do worry about that a little bit as a as an Eagles hand. But they've been making big plays, uh, in terms of interceptions this year to make up for it. Yeah, like, yeah, you can move the ball forty yards, but if it ends with an interception, like they're counting on making a

big play eventually. I do think there is a weakness though, Mark, which is their linebackers are gonna be on the field a lot in this game. The chi play with heavy personnel almost as much as any team in the league in terms of having two tight ends, sometimes even three tight ends, like they are a two tight end team. It's usually Noah Gray and Kelsey and that just let's Read cook his magic. I mean, that's the thing with Mahomes.

It's the two of them coming together, and Read gets those mismatches, whether it's Kelsey on the wrong cornerback or on you know, running backs, on linebackers, or receivers, sometimes on linebackers. The Eagles will be tempted to have Kaiser White and t J. Edwards on the field at the same time because this is a pretty good Chiefs running team and you have these two tight ends, so they almost make you play heavy to match up with them,

and then they kill you. They have the tightest formational with the Chiefs in terms of their offensive of the last seven seasons, which talks about I mean, if he measured it himself. Yeah, that's how it works. It's this multiple tight ends and they're using the running backs receivers a ton and I still, I know, I keep saying this, and at some point in life I need this to

come true. But I think you've got like Andy Reid down in a bunker with like half eaten cartons of Chinese food coming up with plays for Gadarius Tony in this game. At some point we're gonna get the Cadarius Tony situation. I may have a sandwich properlated to that tomorrow Top ten Football Insider. They are about about twenty yards away to set up some business. I don't I think it's an awkward conversation. I'm sure they don't even remember saying it will be a great yeah about that guy.

By the way, we're sitting up on higher land than they are. They're down on the ground. We're up here on this DS. Yes, living well is the best revenge. I like the idea of a Stu Goots Zolac versus hands a Sessler tag team match. Is it verbal or is it physical? It's a physical spar but we bring like we get like remember Mr Fuji, like he would throw salt in the enemy's eyes. Maybe some braass knuckles, sneak in, we play a little dirty. That's greg Mr

Fujie in the situation will be our manager. Mr Fuji. I don't give up. I'm also Japanese ties. That's perfect. I mean that now we're maybe crossing over. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. You're not throwing salt in another man's eye and being our what do they call them? They weren't the managers. They were called show chauffeurs. I don't know anyway back to the game. I look at Mahomes and what he does. In terms of headline of this podcast, Greg, I will not be Mr Fudell

I liked. I want to get in the mix. Doesn't miss, So it doesn't. Mr Fujie, he's just like on the sideline doing sneaky things. I want to fight at least want to bite some ankles. And were managers in there. Some of those managers became wrestlers like Virgil, but Mr Fuji never. He was an elderly a little bit older Asian man. Yes, So anyways, I see the game at hand. So Bill Belichick was on the Let's Go podcast. We've been given a lot of how about that props? It

was really good. Let's give some respect to the Let's Scope podcast because we buried him for not getting the breaking news. But then you get Belichick right after it, and and he was amazing. If you're a Patriots fan or just a huge football dork that likes the history

of it all. Hearing Belichick talk for twenty five minutes on Brady warned my cold heart, and uh, it was fantastic, and that one of the things that stuck with me was what he thought made Brady more special than other He said one thing about like making teammates better, but the the the other thing he thought, which he saw early in his career, was just his ability to see the entire field as one in slow motion basically and be able to say exactly what happened on a given

play where everyone is, what they're all doing, and processing it all in real time in a way that Belichick almost couldn't understand that that it was superhuman and that was the thing that made Brady Brady. And that is the one thing. I don't think there's many Mahomes and Brady similarities, but I really think that's mahomes is number one superpower is that vision, the ability to see everything at once, because I think it informs what you we're talking about them making him hard to sack and it

and it explains sort of his good decision making. And he he uses that super power in a different way than Brady, But I think he has it in a way that I that I think is unparalleled in today's NFL, where like he knows where everyone is, it moves in slow motion, he sees it all, he can kind of like move what's gonna happen and before it happens on

the chessboard in the middle of the play. So it's almost like what Brady had, but then adding the mobility and the athleticism to use it in a different way. And that's why, as someone who's who's pretty obviously rooting for the Eagles here just has me scared to death because like there's been proven no pass rush um if it's a good enough offensive line that can totally solve that, and I I I don't know if like Jonathan Gannon in this Eagles defense is gonna confuse him or mix

things up enough to mess up that picture. And he's gonna see that picture and as the game goes on, just like that first Super Bowl he played it, and I think he'll he'll know what to do. And that that worries me. And one little tag onto that the you know Travis Kelsey, who's he basically prophesies the rise of Mahomes. After that season we had played one game here during Super Bowl Week, he basically said, no, you need to realize this is gonna be a player who

changes the game. And it was like, well, really what It was a nice headline, but he was true and he's I think he knows Mahomes better than anyone. And he played quarterback himself, and he said that the fact that the Kelsey played that position, he can see what Mahomes is going through in the pocket. He talked about this this week and that he thought that, you know,

we're always looking at what is different about Mahomes. What can you say about him but that this season he grew more as a quarterback by leaps and bounds than any other year. And maybe it's hard for us to sort of see what that means. But the other players that are close to him and linked to him play to play, they see a different quarterback. It keeps growing.

He wouldn't have won that game a few years back where he basically was down to mvs and Kelsey and this game you get Juju, you get, you get Tony like you you might get what you get Justin Watson, who actually was sick for that game. And I do think if the Eagles, you know, they're gonna maybe allow the Chiefs, who have been such a short passing attack, to take some shots down the field, and they don't really have the guys, but it's MBS, it's Justin Watson.

Wouldn't shock me to see like a Justin Watson thirty seven yard play. He only has two targets in the game. But the Eagles I think are gonna like almost dare them maybe to make those types of place. Yeah. I think the Kelsey side of it is is he's so inevitable it does run because we do talk about the Gronk Kelsey thing, like that's Lloyd Gronk was at his peak too with Brady when he needed it, when he

needed to have it. Who would be streaking across the middle and just lumbering down for thirty one yards in a huge spot. Kelsey is to me, he felt better than ever this year. Um, and I just think he's gotta gonna have a huge game. Like I think that Kelsey, And that's not breaking news because we know his role.

But I think what we've seen from him this year is how he's mass through the position to the point where he just gets open every single play just about And that goes a lot credit of course to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes because they've been able to so quickly UM retool this offense, and it kind of makes sense in retrospect, and I don't think enough people are talking it up. After Tyreek left, was like, Yeah, they're gonna have to change their ways. They're not gonna be

trying to take the top off defenses as much. But they still have this other guy and the fact that he's been so dominant this year. How does he have less than a hundred and thirty yards in this game? I just don't say. He has averaged a hundred and five over his last eight postseason games, and he has so much to do with Mahomes, But how do you attack him? How do you attack him? Because against man he has twelve touchdowns against mancoverage, five more than any

other player in the league. Against zone two point six yards per route, first among tight ends. It's like there's no easy way to stop. And I think if you had gone back last offseason and it was it was Travis Kelsey that had left and Tyreek Hill had stayed, I don't think you've ever come that the same way. Wow, that's a hot take, and I I think I'm with you on that. Um he stopped with Johncey Gardner Johnson. This is why they made that trade in Ivanti Max.

So they're two good players, not stop him, but slow him down. Certainly you put two people on him, but those if you're gonna drop some players. And they're both a little too small for Kelsey and that's that's the problem. Um, they're both good players, and this is like that trade, good or bad. I think he's gonna have to show up in this game, and he might, he might get burned, but he's gonna be a big fact the Isaiah Pachenko side of this. Him and Jerick McKinnon. Remember McKinnon was

on just like a hallacious run there. We were scoring a touchdown every week. They have a nice one to punch Kansas City in their running game, and you could look, where's another potential spot of vulnerability for Philly if they can establish the run at all. But Cheko he is one of the in terms of running back success, one of the most successful running backs this season, fourth high success rate perl hundred carries point five, So he's kind

of under the radar guy. And then McKinnon just has had a nose for the end zone, including he's a monster in the flat. When Maho gets him the ball, he finds the goal on. They just haven't had a running back like this. I think Pa Chaco is just a punisher, and I mean for what they want to be this season, it's again, this front office just keeps nailing things left and right, and this was the perfect

running back to bring in. I Uh, I think it's I don't know if ironic is the word, but like you look back at those Eagles teams where Andy Reid made his name, where Andy Reid I think had about as much influence on the next twenty years of the NFL as any offensive coach there we've seen, and you see his offenses looking a lot like the nine through whatever it was, oh five and beyond Eagles, but man Eagles fans in the end and a lot of those big games were like, can you please just run the

ball a little more when it's working? Can you do it, Andy Reid? And now you look at this matchup where he's going up against his old team, the Eagles, and certainly their big weaknesses is running the ball. They play a style of defense that's in vogue, kind of like the Chargers where they almost beg you to run, and so will Andy Reid like stay patient and do it

because I think he's got the players. You guys explained why with Pacheco and definitely the offensive line to keep doing it because I'm not really buying the whole like, you know, they brought in Linval Joseph and Dominican Sue and they haven't really been playing Jordan Davis like that is where you can attack the Eagles m hm. And that was the Sunday dry presented by Toyota Good game. Are we not talking up the Eagles defense enough though?

Because I'm feeling I think we are. But then we're also in the previous segment we say that it's gonna go touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, like good, Yeah, I agree, But like good defenses, it's these are two great offenses and there too, you know potentially, you know, at least the Eagles are good defense in the Chiefs Candy, but it's like, I just think offenses win that battle, you know, and so they just gotta make enough plays if you

just get three stopped, I don't think it's gonna be like last year where the Rams and Bengals are just trading punts for like eighteen possession. That was a classic Russo nug about experience his head coaches against young head coaches, but there was a lot of data backing it up there is. So then you like some special teams. Is there an a huge edge there the kickers? Is there a huge edge there? I don't know, Uh head coach, Yeah, give me Buckers had some misses this year, Yeah he has.

He hasn't been as good this season, But like uh read and Spags, I I'd feel good if I'm a cheese fan against I know Sirianni's getting uh pumped up here. And we had Baldy on the show last week who pointed out what a great staff he has that keeps that team balanced and keeps things centered. But give me read over Syrian Well and Read coming on. I mean, I I get tired of these stats, but like Read coming off by weeks for an extra week to prepare. I mean his record is a sterling Well I I

made a big jag, you know, classic. Oh the there's Rosendalt talking too long again rant before the NFC Championship about how the difference is gonna be Sirianni going forward on fourth down and that they're very they got. They kind of remind me of the Patriots, where they're very buttoned up in terms of situational foot ball, and I think he's got that advantage here too. I don't think

Andy Reid's quite as aggressive in those situations. He's certainly not. Uh. They tend to have a few more uh field goals in fourth and six I and I see Sirianni really going for it using all four downs, and I think that puts pressure on Reid to be the same way. Hey, don't be self conscious. You can honk when you're passionate. You're loyal. I mean I do, I do, I do? So this is your place to do the honking? All right? Do I guess like a little dog like biting at

your not in this case, though, see I do get grief. Um, all right, shall we pick this game? Yeah? Should I start? I have the least amount of drama. I don't know who you're got there picking? Well, let's you should know because we wrote about this on NFL dot com, Mark Scessler, I think a good way maybe to uh. I think we did this last year to marks like, do I have to stick with that? Pick? Well? I think I've picked the same thing over and over, but it's there.

This a little different. Can I get some dramatic music from Justin Great Bigger, I'll read in mind first, I get killed. Sometimes you gotta sometimes you gotta stand out on the website. Yeah, this is what you did, you're saying, Chiefs thirty seven, Eagle seventeen, whoa why the days of feasting on Daniel Jones and Josh Johnson who never seemed so far away from the Eagles, who get cooked by Patrick Mahomes on the sports Biggest stage, Super Bowl fifty

seven m v P Mahomes Bold Prediction Colon. Mahomes finishes with more total touchdowns five than in completions for Sizzle Sizzle take from Zeus. Wow, I'm I'm a little stunned, so am I Actually I'm hurt. And there are a lot of possible outcomes for this game. And you could wind up, because I don't think many are on that corner. You could wind up. That could make me look very stupid in a few days, and it probably will mark your turn. Hit the music Grave Digger. No wait, I've

got a hole Steel. I think he's looking for it. I'm not gonna find it fun to watch Mark Fanny. Okay, here he goes Eagles thirty four, Chiefs twenty eight and overtime. Why yeah, why of course every game market hold on it went to the top of the page again. Okay, why the Eagles are the ideal blend of might, upfront stars on both sides of the ball, and next level coaching. It's just enough to take care of business against my homes and friends. M v P. Jalen hurts bold prediction.

In a glorious bit of Super Bowl poetry, the Eagles run the Philly Special from the Kansas City's four yard line with eight seconds to go in overtime. Jalen hurts for the woo very good. So you gotta stand out and I'll be I'll be calling mad Dog on the phone and if that happens, okay my way to stand out. And I did not. Yeah, where are you on this, Mr team player? I don't even see your prediction on

this article. Well, I did do the game picks all season long on NFL dot Com, and then they bumped me for this last week, and um, I didn't stood up. I didn't uh didn't send anything in. I did not police. Well, because I'm on the record, you can go back to August and you can look at my back then and it was Philadelphia Eagles over Kansas City Chiefs. Written in tablet. Two consistent factors this season for these two teams. One is a dominant, game breaking running attack. One is a

terrible rust defense. And that's what's gonna be the difference. The Eagles are throwing it back to a game time in football when you were ground and pound, but they're also doing it in a new way. This will be the best running quarterback to win a Super Bowl, to win a Super Bowl by running the ball and building the game around your running game and around the run of your quarterback. I know Russell Wilson could scramble, but this is how they built their offense. They said, you

couldn't win a super Bowl that way. Oh that's a college offense. That is how they are gonna win a super Bowl. Rying it back together to the opening of the show and they said that you couldn't pick the Super Bowl right ahead of the season, And I'm gonna do it. Eagles thirty five, Chiefs thirty one. Very nice? Are you a bigger brand builder than Austin Ekeler at this point trying? I mean, this will never happen again. So I gotta play it. That is that is a

money prediction, because I mean, Hew Wayward and sideways. Do those things go these like that entire rent with this music under that would have I would have enjoyed it. I was desperately calling for wacky music. And then Grave they're gonna plays a monk chanting in a temple side I think Underground that was the we're gonna give you your flowers. If this goes the way you predicted in August, you deserve flowers. They will be put at your feet.

I don't. I don't feel good though, pick pick. I I think I remember at that Chief super Bowl when I picked, I mean I do feel good. That would totally ruin everything I just said. But that Chief super Bowl when they won, just making a similar rant of how I like, never pick against Mahomes. Not a comfortable place. It's exciting. Yeah, you're in a tight spot, very tight spot. Man predicts football game not as tight as last year's Super Bowl, and Mark and I were in a lockoff

for the trophy. Oh yeah, I don't have to sweat that out. That doesn't feel better. That's and I looked over after the Aaron Donald play and it looked like Mark's head was about to explode it so far. Well, I didn't like how that went. Oh, I didn't even remember that. You didn't talk for about forty five minutes after. But there is a I you know, you were the champion in the locks this year. I wish I could have locked off against you here to get that tie,

but it is there's less stress involved. That's fine too. Just enjoy the game. And that kind of one of the reasons why I'm going with the Chiefs, because I really do enjoy uh watching a legend like mahomes here at the height of his powers at twenty seven years old. I'd like to see greatness in person. I got my dad Keith coming in on Friday, my cousin big Al

coming in. I want them to see greatness. Well, yeah, your your dad's been to a couple of Super Bowls and uh, you know he's seen some great that's this is different because in the quarterback matchup is so unusual. And but i'd i'd counter and say that if Philly took this game as greg as predicted, as I predicted, We'll keep looking for these dynasties. The Chiefs are on the edge of becoming what the closest you can be

right now if they take this thing. But the Eagles I think are not going away for a very long time. This is a kind of team that wins this game. My father in law will be at a second Super Bowl, uh Sunday, flying in from Japan, arriving Saturday night. The only Super Bowl he's ever seen in person. Tom Brady helped along by our friend who's walking around radio row here media row, Malco Butler in a classic. That game was so good he became a legit NFL fan for

a while after that. So it was both both Phoenix super Bowls. He went to was he uh? He he does? He used to desert. He used to work for some company that had a lot of business here. Um. And if you but just be careful what you wish for here, Mark, Because if you thought New England sports fans were annoying when they had a dynasty team, just imagine Philadelphia sports fans. No, you're right, you're right. But I have no control over any of this, So I know it's tough. I don't

I like both these things. I'm with you. I do like greatness, and so I'll be happy for either and Connie Fox is coming in with Gonzo and they're looking to see a second super Bowl. It's all all good, all good either way. We're not done, though usually we did, and you feel like, okay, see a Sunday. But we got another show. We gave this one a little bit of a longer runway this year so people could check out our picks and our analysis of the game itself.

But we do have a Friday show coming up as well with some more great interviews to come with some superstars of the sport. And we'll maybe do some sandwich props on Friday. That sounds fun. Uh and maybe uh some prop talk, maybe maybe the who knows, maybe the Rainmaker comes out. These are all things that could happen on many variables. All right, great stuff, good stuff, let's go. That's it, Marks Cole McCoy and the lobby of the hotel. It was great. Total fanboy did not say a word though.

We gotta, we gotta make it happen all right until Friday, Eat the Caugh