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and I just don't really want to pursue that. Even as I thought, well, I mean, these are either listener generated or it came from inside our own company. That that message, and it said that the It didn't say that I'm looking for a new job. It said the a t N podcast I believe is looking at help, hoping to find me a new job. So it's sort of an unsettling way to open um a show that will probably wind on for eighty or ninety minutes, but I'll do my best. No one said it means you

have to leave this job. Maybe it's a white you know deal where you get a side hustle you start working for the Browns. You get that double stream of income and suddenly like the whole assessler household is just flying. I mean, we know a few people that have worked for the Browns and there, um, you know, they're not far from us right now. Dan. It also doesn't always turn out well. You know, sometimes those stays with the Browns end under mysterious circumstances. What's that I hear in

the background. Oh, oh my gosh, that's oh my god, that's Nick Stoke's music. Just right crash, just right, crushed the beer cans and like dump them over my head, you know. I mean I've been known to do that. I've been known to do that. Well you know, Um, some things are best left to mystery. Oh, Shook, he's back. How about that? You know? Nick? I was thinking, um, what did Freddie Kitchens do? I know, we're gonna have to get some drinks inside of Shook sometime just to

get the load on this. Got to get him inside that the chiseled body, Shook. I was thinking, you are a rising star with NFL media. I see you on Network now a lot. You're football writing is top notch. Um, You're you have a striking appearance because of your well built, built physique and your bald head and you're fairly symmetrical face. There's a lot of things going for you right now, nick, um. But we need now is to put the We need

to put together some symmetrical It would be nice. But I had a few project ideas, some um and you could take this I p and run with the run with it, and then of course if it takes off, you can just give me a producer credit and I'll stay out of it on the creative end. But maybe I just get a paycheck. Um, Nick shook? And that's kind of just you on various personal, domestic, global affairs that concern you. Yeah, I mean I like that idea.

I get that a lot. You know, people think they're really clever when when I'm like wow, I say I'm in a social setting and I say wow, and they go, oh, would that? Um, would that make you perhaps shook? Are you sure I was gonna say that not the first time that you've gotten that as a potential programming idea? Or I usually pat them on the back and say, you know what, I've never heard that in my life before. Thank you on the back. Yeah, how about Yeah, it's

at just the start. How about Nick Shook Me All Night Long? And that's a sex and relationship podcast that one would would take off on a different podcast network. I think, um, it would be dangerous, but in a good way. And then finally, um, I just got Chook,

Cole and Nick on earthquakes and other seismic activities. I have experienced a few months living in l a And and we even had one here in the Cleveland area a couple of summers ago that was so small you couldn't even feel it, but the news told you about it for five days because it's so rare. That is a nice sort of breaking news element to it as well, where people would say, you know, we've felt something in the middle of the night, you know where to go?

You go to where you know you have to suddenly start an earthquake oriented podcast at three twelve am. Um, I like it. I love it. Just imagine like here in southern California, whenever there's a tremor, everyone runs the Twitter and says earthquake or you feel that, blah blah blah. Shook has a live link. It's a live stream and he's breaking it down for two hours, like doing my

corn acky. I got my sleeves rolled up. I'm in front of some big board that and like you know, the the Richter scale and the seismic graph and where the epicenter was. Here's another one, Shook not Stirred, a podcast about mixology. That's good, that's see, it's all there. When you are blessed with the physique, well you've earned that with the that dome, with the fairly symmetrical face, with the mind that you have, and then the name to top it off. It's it's the off season and

it's time to start thinking bigger. That's all. Nick. I'm just lucky that when I shaved my head for the first time that I didn't have an oblong head at least to what I can so important sound like, go ahead, Mark, No, I was gonna say, Nick, you could do a lot of things with Nick as well, shaving Nix and you know Nix and Razors like a little shaving podcast. People with beards are very um, you know, they're very trendy. Right now, there's people with the fashionable beards. You can

cater to them. How about this shook about Nicks And it's all about cutting yourself, shaving and how to avoid that. You know, I think this brainstorming session just produced a winner.

That's great. Um. On a more serious note, Nick, this is your first show with us since you so beautifully how us UM handle recaps on Sunday Nights and uh, you know you would you would come in and tag in for Chris westling Um last season, which was, you know, a very kind of difficult, vulnerable time for the podcast, and UM, you know, especially as West was getting sicker and he started to worry about where where it was

all going. Shook was always there and always very um versatile for us and always cool to jump on whenever and fill in, and you do feel, um, you know, it's a very important place in the history of this podcast. Nick, and UM hope to have you involved in this upcoming regular season on Sunday Nights because God knows we need the help. But thank you for being part of that time in the history of the show. As difficult as

it was. Well, I'll tell you what, guys, Ever since I had since Gregg first hired me seven years ago, UM, I always wanted to be a part of this and it was always It's always been on her and will continue to be an honor for every time that I'm able to join you guys, So thank you for having me. Yeah, thanks man, it was if you were I remember you

were there on that that. I'll never forget that episode now that you know, the last you know, Brown's win, not not the last Browns win ever, but the Browns playoff win where you have West kind of tagged tagged out for you like that. That was an amazing show. Um, all right, coming up on today's show with Nick Shook sitting in for the whole banger of that, how long did you say, Mark, eighty to ninety minutes? We'll try to come in under that, but no promises. I mean

ninety would be I is where I'm sitting out? Was where you know now we're now, we're ten minutes and I think we got at least another ninety three minutes ago. Uh, coming up on todays show. You know we've talked about it. We talked about it last week, and um, in general, Greg's biggest offseason written piece on NFL dot com is his projected starter series. And you would think during this time of year, when things are a little slow, that we would have been hitting it hard. And yet we

neglected the series. We didn't. It came up casually in conversation, but it never got its own sag. And now days and weeks have passed, you know, since the debut of the series. We're now finally going to address it in a series that in a segment we like to call projected Starters, Yes, projected Starters Autopsy, where we dig through the corps of Greg's brilliant series and share some takeaways of our own. Also slightly grizzly, but I think that

people are going to enjoy it. Poke in the corps, it took weeks to make up this sound drop, so it's worth the way. Also, we promised them you get them. We share some of the iTunes reviews out there at the end of the show, but before that, let's hit the news. I mean, let's face for the giants are coming off a worst week than Harvey. Weinste Andre up

four boys. That's what we chose for Al. Come on, granted it was um not Al's finest moment, that that would not be his do you believe in miracles moment? It might be the opposite of it, It might be the unbreakable, it might be the Samuel Jackson to Bruce Willis moment and Al Michael's career, but it might be more like, do you believe in Mike Tarico taking over in one more year? Mike Tarko hired by uh NBC several years ago. I was always thought to be the

heir apparent to Al Michael's. Now we're at a stage where Al is in the final year of his contract. NBC has the Super Bowl, it's in Los Angeles, al Michael's hometown, and now here we are in a situation whereas Al going off into the sons that probably not al Michael's loves what he's doing, even at seventy six years old. And this report from friend of the show Andrew Marshawan, NBC's Al Michaels has emerged as Amazon Prime's top choice to do play by play for its forthcoming

exclusive Thursday night NFL package. The Post has learned recording has already begun, with NBC an active part of the discussions that could include its top production people being part of a potential deal as well. According to sources, Amazon begins it's exclusive broadcast up Thursday Night Football next season. Greg It's Michael's is the target here but there's also talk about Joe Buck and an Eagle. I love it. There's a weird Jay Leno announces he's retiring in seven years,

and Conan's waiting to take over Vibe going on. It's another NBC boondoggle potentially here where Tarico has earned his shot and the old guy is still there. Um giving Al a final act to his career on a great platform that feels perfect. I hope it happens. Yeah, I love this. We we've talked about it now for a few years. It's not that I want all out of my life. I still think he's, you know, top four, you know, I want him to be on one of

these prime time neews. He's just taking you know, he's just a late career Joe Montana in front of Steve Young doesn't belong on that Sunday Night so perfect. Put him on the new Amazon and we fly. I'm into it. But he'd still do the NBC Sunday Night games this year according to that Oh yeah yeah. So Amazon doesn't start till two, so he then would segue pretty naturally.

He gets his swan song at NBC. It's in l a As as Dan mentioned, he gets the super Bowl and then he just moves to Thursday night and Joe Buck doesn't have to work as hard. I mean, Trico's very much feels like a New England based Jimmy Garoppolo product where you you know, you thought maybe he's the heir apparent, but the lead guy is just too good and staying around too long. And like IM think on Michael's is this maybe he's not where he was like

years ago. Um for me, he's he's still like the top of the mountain and I would love to be his age and still passionate about, um, what one is doing. I think that's kind of There's these announcers that have been in our lives for like our entire lives. It's crazy, I mean, and he's the dude that announces like every sport. Um, I love it. I find another part of this job as we must continually chat about other men becoming very rich and you have to have the stomach for that.

I'm most curious to hear Al Michael's read, like the ad reads or the information about streaming during those broadcasts being in Amazon Prime, and how he handles the whole concept of that. You you would think that they might be a little looser. I guess it's still an NFL partner.

But you know that if the gambling shackles are coming off in general across the coverage of the NFL, you would think like Amazon would maybe be the one that pushes the boundaries a little bit, and Al would love to dive into that kind of like how in Major League Baseball they using the minor leagues to try to figure out some rules to make the game go uh in a more expedient manner. Maybe maybe the streaming platform is the setup for primetime in Sunday and Monday and

all that. I like that, and I hope Al gets that final act and was like one other little nugget in that like and it's not surprising, but they talked about Nate Burlison as perhaps the partner to whoever they hire as the play by play man, which is you know again, I think it's like his next ascension. But Amazon is like, We're not going to try to like put a bunch of kids out there. We're gonna try to put together a team that is like one of

the best teams around. In other news, Lamar Jackson in his three NFL seasons, which of course, includes an m VP award in t nineteen. He has operated almost totally out of the pistol formation. That's changing, we hear in June, ESPN dot coms Jameson Hensley reports that the offense and Baltimore this season will include play with Jackson starting under center. Greg Roman, the team's OC, told reporters on Wednesday the

changes coming to the team's approach. He doesn't know what the percentage will be or the extent of how much they're going to use it, but they're working on it and evaluating it every day. Shook, Why do you think the Ravens are doing this? And do you think this is important or just the June non story. I think it good. Jump starts their passing offense a little bit, and and the reason for that is is first variety, but secondly the boot opportunities and how well you can

get him on the rollout. In that sort of situation, it's more natural coming from under center with a run fake and breaking back to your opposite side than necessarily doing the read option type of thing where it's more lateral than it is gaining depth on your rollout. So I think that that's probably one of the goals of going under center. They also have a rushing attack that has proven in part because of Lamar Jackson's presence in that offense is proven to be very effective and um

coming out of some traditional sets. I think adds more unpredicted ability and limits team's ability to potentially stack the box or or trying to game playing against that running attack. Can't do what you did before the year before. It's like the history of offensive evolution in the NFL. If you do it, you're gonna get stuck like once once you get past the mid nineties two started the two thousands, and I think that was part of the Ravens issue

last year. Not that they were bad offensively. It's still a good running game, but they didn't really evolve what they do. You have to change in some way each year or else it's not gonna work. And as long as they don't lose kind of the core of what they do. And it's not like they're not gonna use his legs and it's not like play action can't be effective.

From under center could be more effective, and they're a great play action teams, So you they got they need to have a few more flavors to throw out there each week. I mean it was like two seasons ago they were appropriately lauded for um bludgeoning teams with their approach. But last year, you know they didn't have Nick Boyle.

They tried to do that again. Um. They were largely successful for parts of the season, but there were all these sideshow is that we talked about on Tuesday, with you know, Lamar Jackson saying that the defenses were calling out plays. Pre snapped like, you know, that's the trick with the Greg Roman offense, and he said all offseason

we have to expand. I mean, I will say this though, the Ravens social media team got a little too um excited about the concept of this yesterday and put out don't know if you saw this this um Lamar Jackson passed to Sammy Watkins and it was like an ultra duck and all these people were like, why did you put that clip out there? Like it's it did not help this messaging on any level. You have to go

check it out. I get you could look at it cynically and say it's a you know, tacit admission that the offense was kind of going a wrong direction last year, or you could just say, Okay, this is smart. This is smart. Yet, like you guys are saying, you have to evolve. You can't just stay the same way. And imagine if if if Lamar is comfortable on this and he's got some better playmakers this year, you know, maybe his game takes a jump and that would be very

exciting for the Ravens. And other news, the COVID nineteen vaccine. It's very important that we all get vaccinated. And um, there are some people in our country and and uh that don't feel that way, and that is creating a level of tension in our nation. There's always tension in this country, especially I feel like in the last few years. But the new thing now is the idea of being vaccinated and and the Buffalo Bills are kind of a

case study in the NFL. The Bills, let me set up this way the NFL, if you get to UM vaccination on your roster, it allows you to relax some of the restrictions on your team. It just makes life a lot easier for the team in addition to makes it safer, uh for everyone. But the Bills aren't really

talking about it. They don't want to talk about when they're asked about a quarterback, Josh Allen and linebacker Tremaine Edmonds did not want to talk about the vaccines, and then Jordan Poyer said, according to the Buffalo News, the following, real quick, before we start, I'm not gonna be answering questions about vaccines. So if you guys can direct your questions on a football I would love to answer them. All respect I appreciate it. What is this? What's this

all about? Greg? What's going on here? I think they have been put in the spotlight because Josh Allen and especially Called Beasley have been so vocal and I think player player or a family member I think was his wife, you know it was too. But Beasley was so vocal about essentially not believing the science and wanting the social media to his own research, and Josh Allen essentially alluded to that too, Like if you're if you don't want to answer the questions and you're saying it's private, it's

it's pretty clear which which direction you're going. And I'd like to think they actually huddled a little bit and said, we don't want this to be a problem within our team, um, and let's just shut it down in terms of the media as a story. At some point though, it'll be a bigger deal because the les, as you mentioned, Dan are are different depending on how vaccinated you are, and then when you get to the season, they really get different.

Like if you're in the bye week and you're not vaccinated, you gotta show up to get tested every day, and if not, you can go. You know, you can go to Hawaii. You go with Jason Witten and Tony Romo and Ticago. I think they just lived there now. They just hang out, the four of them in Cabo and you could do whatever you want. So that would seem to be like where the rubber hits the road there, where it's like, are they really gonna stay away from it during the season when you get these advantages as

a team, I don't know. I'd struggle to think that by training camp of of rosters players would not would not be vaccinated. But you know our country though country's are vaccinated or had at least one shot right now, and tons of people have bailed on the second one.

So you know, there's just that, like last year, there's a human element to how it's being processed to some degree, And I mean I guess, listen, like, it's not really fair that Josh Allen would be like picked apart by everyone um for doing something different than we all did. But I totally get it. And the bill, the bills are in a weird spot if if if like he refuses to answer those questions to your point, I could

just simply suggests that he's against it. Not only that, but then you think about the competitive advantages or disadvantages, you know, like Greg had you know, mentioned it. I mean, when it comes to the coaching staff, they can't even be involved with they're not vaccinated. You know, there's there's

like a clear separation. There's the masking that's involved, and there's also the vulnerability associated because let's face it, according to the CDC, you know, you get vaccinated, you the chance that you're infected and can spread are extremely low, which is you know, led to the change in mask advising and everything else. Well, if you're unvaccinated and you contract COVID nineteen, guess what you're stuck in where we were last year, which is you're out and and anybody

who's near you who wasn't vaccinated is out. And if this is something that's prevalent more among one team. You're setting yourself up for issues going into the season. I hate, and we don't to go down this road too far, but I hate that this has become on some level a political side taking scenario. It's it's it's just it's it's very frustrating because it's the science is there that this works. Everybody should get a shot. And if you're listening to some for your fellow man, I mean, you

hear a lot about patriotic thoughts. It's like, let's let's have some concern for other people, all right. And other news hit the trope alert. Ricky troth let, troth let, tropolet trothlet. Jared Goff has a fresh start with the Detroit Lions, and head coach Dan Campbell loves what he sees. He made about five throws yesterday that we're just wow. Campbell said that via the Detroit Free Press. Now, Mark, we went to Rams camp a few years back, and one thing that you jumped out is that that boy

can throw a football. That has never been an issue with Aured Golf. So it doesn't surprise me that he's throwing tight line drive spirals on target. That's how he became a note number one overall pick. But unfortunately for Golf, the football at quarterback is goes beyond that, and that's where he's gotten into trouble in the last couple of years. Yeah, I guess it's in Detroit. It's more like who is he throwing it too? When real games started and they

were one of the thinner wide receiver groups out there. Um, but I mean this is the kind of stuff that I hear. It goes in one ear and out the other. Jared Golf throwing good passes when there's no pass for us, like, no no scheming against his weaknesses. Okay, he's a great athlete, He's a supreme athlete. I should I don't think this should be surprising any of us. That's why it is a trope. Well, yeah, the trope is like, um, you know, disappointing player for other team, you know, is wowing in

the off season practices, Jared Goffkin, spin it. Let's pump him up. Yeah, let's remember that seeing hard knocks right. You know where Sean McVeigh said, who wasn't was it Sean mc there was a Jeff Fisher standing back And have been on so many NFL films properties that I've lost traction. Man, that's an NFL throw right there. Yeah, well it's yeah. Now, you know, I was thinking we'll

save this for the Fantasy Spectacular coming up later this summer. Uh, but I wonder they're gonna be playing from behind a lot. Um Goff is probably gonna get a season full of starts. There's not a lot of wide receivers. How about t J. Hockenson under the radar as a big ad tight end, very thin and fantasy He was great last recent years.

Um all right. In other trope alert news, trop at tropolt tropet, Hey listen, mac June mac Jones is the new hot quarterback with all the swag with the Patriots, But do not forget that Cam Newton is a former m v P now in the second year of the Patriots system. And guess what offense coordinated. Josh McDaniels had this to say. He came back this year at a much different position. He has a different grasp of the offense, different understanding of the terminology. Now we're working on refining

the precision, the details. Okay, so what does that mean? He just had no idea what he's doing Last year. What are we doing? I mean, yeah, that's the that's the year too. We get the guy, gets the offense a little more. It's usually more about like you, but it's yeah, but it's it also can be for free agents, especially it might be like a pandemic trope because you didn't have the off season last year. And that part

makes sense. I'm buying it. I mean also, it's like they're a completely different offense, like they you know, you can read this in Greg's projected starters, but it's a stat that's out there. I mean, no team ran less two tight ends. They probably will be you know, top tree in the league with that this year. It's so it's like it's not like the same playbook. They got a whole bunch of different players that finally in the news. Oh,

Greg on Tuesday show, you were just talking about it. Um, we're talking about You'll see I'll see you the crossroads where you won't be lonely. I see you went. I'm gonna missay everybody, especially the uncle Charles Um, Chandler Jones, J J. Watt both at the crossroads. Well popped up that Chandler Jones, you know, maybe connected to some trade rumors,

and what did he do? Speaking of trope alerts, he deleted the Cardinals from his social media in it's as entirety no more mentions of the Arizona Cardinals on Chandler jones social greg. It is looking it up right now. He can't even believe it. He needs to get to the Graham right now? What does that mean, Chookie? Is Chandler Jones on the way out? He certainly must be disgruntled. I mean, I think athletes do this seventy percent of the time solely for the attention, as if they don't

get enough. So I get pretty annoyed by stuff like this. But again, we are in June, so we need something to feed the beast, and if we're gonna feed a controversy beast, it's definitely somebody wiping stuff out from their

social media. Personally, I don't know if this really does mean he's to scrountled, or if he's preparing for what could eventually be the inevitable, or if we just have some people who are just scrubbing social media timelines and just happened to look and say, oh look, he doesn't mention his team anymore. Oh no, like like what if I deleted around then? What if I got rid of that around the NFL right out of my bio? Is

everybody gonna think I'm just Gronald? What if I'm just trying to say Maybe I think perhaps David Eally would would ping you on the messenger with a few questions. But maybe Jones doesn't like all the pop J J. Watt's getting as like Mr Cardinal because you know, you see him at the Sun's game and J. J. Watt immediately is like always tweeting about the Suns and Phoenix Sports. He's in the front row at the game, and it's like Chandler Jones. It's like, what's up? What's up with me?

You know? What about my shine? There also some whispers that it could be related to a trade for Julio Jones, Jones for Jones. In fact, that came from our friend Jason some Waldi texted us with some concerns about that. So not a report, it's just Cardinal super fan Jason. No, he didn't come up with that out of thin air. He said that, you know, the streets were talking that he's got his own I guess chat rooms in areas that he hangs out in where this was becoming a thing.

I'm not saying that it's from the Associated Press necessarily, but hey, listen Chandler Jones and in a second, uh for Julio Jones. But I don't know if that that helps the Falcons salary cap fish. I don't know, right, I mean, I love you jack Um all right. If I, by the way, if I scrubbed you guys from my social entirely and then any reference to the A T N podcast, do you think that would maybe that would earn like a subreddit post or something. Would that get

a little pop? Is Dan on his way out? Is he starting his own platform, the Dan Hanss Network? Just think? And uh, the boys on your and Squirrels. I think you might be like a little annoyed with the I think in your mind. I mean, anyone would think that stead it's going to generate this sort of American groundswell of attention. It might just be a little bit lesser or at least it would be like an hour of attention and then people would move on to the next

anti drama. So I don't think it's worth it. It's like Chandeler Jones the same thing, only on a smaller scale, basically like one hour of people writing up a aggregated blog post about it. Yes, Chook shook. The leads off of is around the NFL stuff no one notices In like a week later, he's like, can I put it back? Is that it's like when you post a picture on Instagram and deleted because it didn't get enough likes. Yet that kind of stuff nobody saw. This tree falls in

the woods, Nobody hears it. That's a great episode of Nick Shook. By the way, when you're social posting, you keep going back and expecting pop and it doesn't get you a little shook there. I like that. All right, that's what's happening in the news projected starters. We dig through what's left Greg's projected orders series, what work Greg did, and now it's upon us too. Look upon it on a cold slate, take out the scalpel, another cutting devices,

poke around and see what's inside. Market is gone. I think one of the most you know, so it's split up into eight divisions, and I noted this last week.

I think one of the most um intriguing entries is the a f C South because there was a period, you know, when the Texans were rising with the Shawn Watson and uh, you know, the Colts had Philip Rivers and you can look at the Titans as a team that was a Super Bowl threat, and then then suddenly the Jackson Dill Jaguars got Trevor Lawrence that you might just think that this division, after so many years in

the past of having issues, had risen. I think the way that you've outlined what's happened to NFC South, it's completely different. Um, and I think the one that they caught my attention the most was the cults. And just for a couple of little things. I thought this was imaginative because you mentioned, um, the quarterback position, and we've talked about Carson Wentz a billion times, but if you want to talk about not a corpse, but someone that's been under the knife a lot, it is Carson Wentz.

And his backup is Jacob Eeson, who is completely untested. And you know, any one of these teams that lose their starters, you're in some you're in fair hot water, and you have a lot of you can make some excuses, but that would be the floor falling out in a division they very clearly could win and you made a note that why not um reunite Frank Reich with none

other than Nick Foles. It's too awkward, as you pointed out, Um, but that would be one of the more intriguing things to happen in the offseason if you wanted to generate one more story. The other thing I thought about the cults because you couldn't you know, you know that they just after years of getting better and better under Chris Ballard, that that's there's a pause on that they did not

get better this year. And I think if you're kind of casually watching football, you would say, but yeah, but they have the best offensive line. UM pans down like Carson Wentz is in the best situation because of their whole line. They're not gonna get Eric Fisher for you know, we don't know, like it could be weeks, but in general, like they aren't the number one offensive line in the league, and you pointed out that they had taken a step

back and who knows where they are this season. Offensive lines are so unpredictable, like they were seventh last year in Pro Football Focus. But it's just one of those things that like every play by play guy just says because I don't know. He's heard other people saying it's like they're the best offensive blind in the league now.

They really weren't. A year ago. They were good, they weren't maybe like dominant, and they're counting on you know, they're counting on guys to step in right away and do things on on both sides of all, Like Quiddi pay has to come in and I think be a factor for them. They lost a lot on the defensive line, not not feeling the Colts. You want to keep that in the division. You go to Houston and just look

at their backfield. We know the Deshaun Watson situation. We know how they've thrown a lot of stuff at the wall to address that or prepare for Plan B. You know, Tyrod Taylor, Jeff Driscoll, Davis Mills, that draft pick. But you wanna talk about throwing stuff at the wall and seeing if it sticks. Look at their running back room. There's seven guys on this list, not one of them. To me, it looks like your potential like the definite

lead back. Because you got David Johnson, who they we know how they got him in the trade with DeAndre Hopkins. They signed Mark Ingram, they signed Philip Lindsay, who might have gotten a raw deal in Denver. Uh. And then Nick Casterio Pools went out of his New England bag and signed Rex Burke Head. Not to mention the other three guys on the list, Buddy how Dontrell Hilliard and Scottie Phillips. There's so many running backs in this room

and no clear leader or direction. I mean, they could have them all battle it out, I guess, and see which one survived. But um, I mean, I guess for this type of team, this is the best approach. It's definitely, um an intriguing, if not hilarious approach. I had looked at they were on my list, the Texans, they have

two and fifteen written all over them. If Tyrode is the quarterback, right and who knows if he even makes it through the season, and then you start going down the depth chart there if is not even like I mean he, I guess he is high up on their concerns. But there are position groups that I think are worse, you know, compared to compared to league average. You know that I counted three defensive players that I know are starting, and like the rest of the defense is just total competition.

I think if anything, though, like they for all I look at the Texans as a team, there's a lot of like delusions of grandeur um running around inside that organization. But um, I don't think that extends to the general manager who went out and signed a ton of people to one year deals because it's a patch here and I think they knew that. And it's like, you're gonna learn, gonna look a whole lot different a year from now and start to get some draft picks back, but it's

gonna be a really ugly autumn. Um. I'll move over to the a f C. West, where Greg had rightly pointed out that there are some questions on that offense, which is, you know, kind of a bummer. You don't want there to be questions about the offense because you have this fantastic young quarterback in Justin Herbert coming off a record breaking rookie season, but now you have him on a new offense. Um, Joe Lombardi is the new

UM offensive coordinator. Uh, the offensive line should be better, but yeah, the skill group that that is on my radar, Keenan Allen needs to stay healthy here. Um Hunter Henry's gone Jared Cook in two thousand twenty one. Like I, like everyone else, I've been sucked into Jared cook um for a bunch of years, like two thousand eighteen through two thousand twenty, maybe even before that two thousand seventeen maybe, But at this point you kind of know what you're

gonna get. Um. Mike Williams another guy very up and down. Um, and you know they picked up his fifth year option. They're hoping he has a big breakthrough year. Uh. Josh Palmer's there an unproven guy, Julio Jones. As you point out, Greg makes a lot of sense there, but the Charges probably aren't gonna do that cool thing for their fan base. Uh. So this is what you're gonna get, you know, they gotta get. They need Keenan to stay healthy. Austin Ekeler's

gotta stay healthy, or this could go sideways. Oh yeah, autopsy. Look underneath the curtain with the chart. I think it's all like right, not a fear of things going wrong for Herbert, because I like Herbert so much, and I've seen them try to rebuild these offensive lines before, and it does all look great on paper. It's a little hard to imagine that they don't improve to average with the with the personnel they brought in, But I don't know,

something always goes wrong. And then this week, you know, Lombardi was talking about that, you know, he thinks Mike Williams gonna have big numbers. Yeah, that they raised a lot of fantasy alarms because essentially Mike Williams is playing the X is like Michael Thomas in the Saints offense. It's more or less what Joe Lombardi's trying to do. He's not trying to reinvent the wheel that the Saints run a pretty conventional um but effect the NFL offense.

And if Mike Williams is that guy that they're relying on to count, like to catch like ninety hundred balls, I don't know. That just feels like a lot to be counting in. They're not really the same player. And I mean, like Mike Williams like two years ago lead the league in yards per catch, I mean at a thousand yards season. He's never had more than fifty catches though in any year, and he's had some durability issues.

So it's kind of of a projection to suddenly say he's our Michael Thomas, I mean we will see not only that, but I also worry about their death because if there's one team that's been bitten by the injury bug pretty bad on the offensive side of the ball last three to five years, it's them, Keenan Allen being one one year. And if that happened again, whether it was him or Mike Williams or somebody else, God forbid, they're they're in a world of trouble if that happens, right,

LOBARTI is not scheming you out of injury problems. I don't feel like in case you're just joining us. This is projected starters. What else you got? They're worth it? The worth it? Then you've been pushing this projected starter seg I think that I think the drop you know I'm up to drop. I've used it three times now, and I think that's pushing us over the finish line right now. In some medical like sort of autopsy type

talk into her, I'll throw one in. Maybe just you want your doctor, Michael Boden cap go ahead and your blue scrubs, or how about that what's who's that quack that that everyone gets on that everyone retweets despite him getting like you know, fired from the Chargers and kicked out of the NFL and political license. Yeah. Um, Devin Bush is a guy coming off of a major injury.

And just because we haven't mentioned his name all off season, he does strike me as this guy like everyone thinks Devin Bush is already Devin White or Roquan Smith and they're just like, Okay, you're gonna get Devon Bush back, and like that's going to really help the The history of the Steelers defense and inside linebackers incredible. It's like I haven't seen that out of Devon Bush. Like he is a lash player that you see with with splash plays.

I I don't know if he's been particularly effective, and he's coming off of a major injury, and that that is a thin position for the Steelers if you want to pick on their defense. Their their defense was number one in d v o A last year. It was a good defense. But they've lost a couple of people and they need Devin Bush uh to be to take a big step and people are just kind of assuming it's gonna happen. It's like I gotta see that happen. I mean, also, I think the thin a cornerback I'll

stay in the af C North. And you know, if you want to talk about a team that could be experiencing some shortness of breath, maybe even you know, heart issues if they don't um get production at the past

rushing position, it could be the Ravens. And Gregg points out that, you know, every year it feels like they lose their number one dude, uh, and like that happened again, but they now have Tighess Bowser, Pernell McPhee and Jalen Ferguson as their lead dudes who last year and they you know, they have the rookie too, but last year those guys combined for seven sacks. You're asking, and the Ravens aren't necessarily like when you're a rookie jump in in um play as much as you normally would like.

They kind of slow baked them, so they're gonna need help there. I also look at their backup quarterback position if anything happens to Lamar Jackson, and I guess, like, you know, maybe it's cliche to say you worry about Lamar Jackson getting injured, but he's that kind of a quarterback. Your backup is Trace McSorley, who I like is like

maybe a little gadget type player here there. But I wonder if Eric to Costa, who is always an act of GM, might look for some veterans um and both of those spots, you know, heading towards the end of training camp to patch that up. I think we got a glimpse of what the Ravens would look like with Trace McSorley in that Monday night game against the Browns,

lav Lar Jackson had to run to the locker room. Thankfully, he is able to um overcome the quote unquote cramps and come back in time to lead them to victory. But you wouldn't want to be caught in that situation. You're feeling good. When Trace McSorley was out there, he did make like one throw, but after that it pretty much bogged down. Brown's fans were just where they were feeling themselves. And then and then there comes Lamar running

out of the bathroom. I really turned into like the game of the year in the NFL, toilet paper hanging out of his pants. That was not a great ending for the Browns and their fans, but that was great theater. That whole drama, the whole game was really I mean if anything, you could say the Browns like answered a lot of doubters on their on their offense too, but it was Lamar was playing the Browns. How did I

not connect that? Uh, I'm gonna keep this. I'm gonna keep this in the a f C. North and go back to Pittsburgh real quick, just because Greg you brought you know, Devin Bush. Another defensive situation that I think is worth watching is t J. Watt's effectiveness now that Buddy Pree is not opposite him. After Buddy Pree got hurt last year, his pressure percentage Corn the next Gen dropped by like ten, which was because he was watching you. You're the next gen guy. You that's kind of you

steak that as your corner, your next gen. Cynthia is there too. I don't know if there's a little bit of no, no, we're we're friendly. Were the same team, Yeah, but she has her supercomputer. She's not just leaning on sparaging comments about the supercomputer at least passed through your mind. You haven't shared them in public. I mean, I got

a laptop. We're all right, We're We're cynthiaon soon. It's been on my list of to do this too to answer, Um, all the slights that Nick has thrown, Yeah, and all the mental ones also keeping it in Pittsburgh. Their offensive line, for me, is still a concern. Um. You know, I recall Draft Day and and Adid's report, which was that it was clear that they knew they needed offensive line help, but they liked to blend their board and need at the same time. And they went with Nazi Harris in

the first round. And you know, on paper, you're like, well, that's an upgrade over James Connor. But I look at that starting five and I'm not super encouraged. I know some people are bullish on Kevin Dotson at left guard. They drafted a center in the third round, Kendrick Green. Will see if he starts, and you have David DeCastro, but I'm not happy about their tackles. Um. From this point right now and another next gen dive real quick, Um.

The Steelers were second to last in the league and expected rushing yards per attempt, which basically measures how effective their offensive line is. The only team that was worse than them was the Browns. But the difference between the Browns and them was the Browns running backs overcame that consistently. They posted the best rushing yards over expectation per at temph in the entire NFL, the Steelers, and that was

at plus one point one five yards per attempt. So those running backs were consistently exceeding expectation and doing their job to a very high degree. The Steelers were at negative zero point zero one yards per attempt, So the running backs were getting effective and their offensive line was also ineffective. So if you run back a line that looks very similar this year, you add nausea Harris, that's a lot to put on the shoulders of a rookie who does have a lot of mileage on him coming

out of Alabama. So I think that's gonna be a big thing to watch, um for the Steelers this year. And how in the chances for their offense. And if we're carving up the a f C. North, I might as well plug in on the Bengals here and Greg you pointed out and it makes ends, um, there's potential here for this offense to take a big jump. Now, the Joe Burrow a c L situation and ripped up his knee something fierce, uh, And it's good that he's back practicing and O T A s and you hope

he's close to the same guy. Um, there's a bit of a projection here that he makes the second year leap and and improves as a player if the knee cooperates. And then you have you know, you got Jamaar Chase there. Now, Uh, you have Tyler Boyd, underrated guy, te Higgins, Joe Mixing and running back. And I don't know what to take from the Joe Mixing experience at this point, but we know he's fantastically talented and he still has prime years ahead of him. The offensive line, as you point out, Greg,

maybe maybe Penney Sewell would have been the guy. A logical pick there, but you know what, there are pieces there that they that are developing. If the offensive line gets better, and they did bring in Riley Reef. Of course they're to help on that end with these weapons and burrows. Henchel, I'm not saying there's gonna be four teams in the a f C North with nine plus wins. I just think that Cincinnati might muck some things up.

And you know the bullies like Cessilaer and the Browns, uh looking down and pointing and laughing at them, they might not be doing that if this team comes together a little quickly, more quickly than people anticipate. I mean a year ago I said that I thought Zach Taylor had a chance to be Coach of the Year. I think a lot of it comes down to the specialness that they've known where Zack Taylor brings. But I don't think the Bengals are a two or three win team.

They they have a pretty pretty good roster on offense. They should be a team that goes out and you know, they beat Tennessee last year. That's the one game I look at where I thought you kind of got a glimpse bad team to give you a little glimpse of what they can be with Borrow healthy and all that business. Um, they lost their quarterback, the floor fell out. They've been ravaged by injuries really as much as any team in that division or that conference. Over the last couple of years.

You haven't really had a chance to see what they can be. They can win eight games. I don't know if the defense is gonna be worth a damn there, and that's problem and we've talked about the coaching staff on this show. But their offense I think can keep them in games. I would take that young skill group, not counting quarterbacks. I guess I'm going like just running back receiver group of young players over any in the NFL. I can't, I can't. I mean Dallas would be in

the mix. I mean, there there'd be other teams in the mix. But I think I would take that because I partly because I just loved T Higgins so much, and I'm I'm kind of assuming Jamaar Chase is gonna be awesome. But I did notice kind of doing this exercise, the Bengals have completely changed their approach of like player acquisition. I don't know if it's gonna work, but they were the number one team in terms of drafting development in

the NFL. Year after year they dominated this stat which was just like how many snaps did you have from players he drafted? They would be like far and away ahead of the entire NFL. Now was that working particularly? It was working? Okay, they were, you know, they were

making the playoffs and losing usually under Marvin Lewis. Now you look at their defense, it's all free agents from other places that you know, we're mostly let downs and at least at some points like DJ Reader, Ogan, Jovi Hendrickson, Von Bell Wuzier from Dallas, you got Trey Wayne's, Mike Kelton came in like that is just a lot of guys from other places in your county on lou Albano to just make it work that usually doesn't work. They're like they are. Everyone says like the middle class of

free agency is kind of dead. You know, it's either like start but except for the Bengals, they are all about the middle class. I'd have to think Green Bay would be up to two. But I can already see um a trend, and I can already tell what's gonna happen on this show. If Cleveland starts out like one in three or one in four or two and four, it's it's like here we are. Cleveland had one nice

season and everyone's over it. Now it's like they've been It's it's an off season where they're being a little overrated. Now at this point, it's tune. People are tired of that, and it's gonna be exhaustions sit in. You know, the Saints could be good for like eighteen years in a row. The Packers can be good for but Cleveland had their

one season. Now let's have the Bengals come nipped them in the butt and you know, take them from fourth to third, third to fourth place, and the Steelers suddenly are seeming like there's so much better than Cleveland, and we just trust the Ravens and the whole you know what. That's why I have Nick Shook who's about six ft three and built a bricks to start throwing punches. If you guys get to uh you know, loose on this front, you better keep it. You better keep your traps closed.

I'm a little annoyed. I mean, Mark, we've been We've been prepared for this. We've been steeled by the year that was two thousand nineteen. I'll tell you what. The vitriol that I endured online while working for the Browns as they went down in a massive ball of flames, it was unlike anything I've ever experienced working here and ranking players and upsetting fans because they're guys ninth when he should be second in their opinion. Uh So, people love for the hype machine to to go down and

crash and burn. But um, even if they did start one and three, it's a long season. Remember they got blown out in Week one last year. I'm sure you guys will be totally calm on a Sunday night podcast that if they're oh well yeah, yeah, it's a long season, very measured. All your points about the US getting on you for the Browns and market like those are Thursday show stuff. By then you'll love calm down a little bit. I think I'll be too afraid on Sunday nights, like

we know not. You gotta look in the eyes. You gotta see where the Sessler eyes are at before you make any comments at all. But there's you know, there's being a Browns fan right now. Yes, you have to deal with the expectations. But on the plus side, like well draft time as an example, it's like everyone is just genuflecting at the altar of the Cleveland Browns that

everything they do is genius. So if you're gonna get that type of positive buzz around your organization, you've got to deal with the expectation heat that comes with it. It's part of the price. I had this very weird dream. I will not take more than a minute on this last night. Um, it's one of those ones where you wake up and it's like five twelve in the morning

and like you have no idea who you are. But I was at an airport with you, Dan, and we were in this like insane chase to try to find luggage. And I was trying to get Kevin Stefanski's luggage um for him, and I was meant to then take it to the Browns Complex, but I couldn't find it, and I kept getting lost and it was snowing out, and then you were like, hey, man, I'm good, Like we were going to a hotel, and You're like, I found my baggage, so are you good? Like can you figure

this out? I'm like, I guess so. And I'm walking around with this like sort of rather like strange, colorful bag that belongs to Kevin Stefanski. And then the dream ended. I didn't fulfill the journey on any level. What the dream about that Stefanski is like jockey? I think I was like the guy that would be like, hey, can you do us a favor? Can you just you know, Fancy's gotta go go bring his luggage to the complex

and don't don't forget anything. And I was like there was baggage everywhere people were Wearing's final day with the Cleveland Browns. That may be true. Stefanski is like, I've got some sensitive materials coming in from nick Oaragua. Can

you call up Sessler to pick it up? That is that's the dream book would say that that's market dealing with the stress and weight of carrying the Browns bag on the national perspective and dealing with the fire from you guys and the pressure and it's getting to him and it's getting into his subconscious and the season can't get here. An I could not think that's well well assessed into that anymore. Um, I have one last one before we uh if anybody else jumps in and go ahead,

jump in. But you know, Greg, I don't know. Listen, we do a lot of stuff together on on television and on this podcast, and so I've heard this a lot, and I've read this now in your piece of record on the two thousand one season upcoming projected Starters. I need receipts on this Russell Wilson League m v P promotion, this this theory or this thing you've been propagating for months.

It was Sunday Sunday night football game where it was like it was a pregame interview and it was all about in all the media outlets saying how he's never received an m v P boat like that. You know, that was all part of it. Yeah, But your theory here, um and correct me if I'm wrong, is that Russell Wilson spearheaded this media narrative. That right, that's what you're saying. You're calling it a promotion, that he was running behind the scenes. I mean, yeah, pretty much that he was.

He was um contributing to it. He talked, He talked publicly about like what an m v P would mean to him, and that he wants to be the greatest in the game, and like that is what he wants. He was asked about it. I'm sure unless you can shop point. I'm just saying you're bringing up enough that I need proof at this point that he was actually doing this. I don't want to vote. More importantly, I want to win the award, Wilson said September. I mean, what are you what are you asking me here? He's

doing it. He's got the pr arm I stand by it. I do. Like you also ended your Seahawks right up with this little blurb also popular with Seahawks fans, and he shout out to their status as a special breed of humanity, more knowledgeable and inexplicable than any other collection of people on Earth. What do you have to do over there, rosent Bow, Yeah, what's that about? Just messing around? You also jumped off the last year. Uh yeah, well that I don't And they didn't think it's an Yeah,

they didn't like that. And they just like the Seahawks fans. They do have a great twitter um presence. They're smart, they're weird um, but they don't like to hear that. Any other fan base could also have, like a smart,

weird fans base. They they want to feel special and once you say like, okay, I'm not really feeling them as a Super Bowl team this year, then then they come out market down June three one, Greg Rosenthal officially became fatigued with Seahawks and Seahawks Twitter keep the twelves weird. They should read um anybody else? Before we close out this segment, which by the way, has a title, and that title is projected starters. It's the rule of fours.

Most people think three times you do it. That's the peak comedic efficiency. Four five, six. I will say, um, my girlfriend, which you guys had love to discuss many ties in this podcast. In the past, she's in physical therapy school and last semester, uh, she had to dissect a cadaver, which meant that she was studying a lot of images of like you know, for Malde high preserved

dead humans and their various tissues. And every time I hear that drop, I just think about looking over my shoulder at her computer screen and seeing nerves and hearts and brains and always grew some stuff. Was it a man or a woman that she had to cut open and explore? It was a man, and I'll never forget She came home one day and said, today I shaved the back fat off of a man. Oh question, and it is likes you know, it was like it was amazing and also the least surprising part of this pet.

That's where Mark's mind went immediately. And if it is a woman, do you know where I can go to get one? No? I just you know there there are some follow up questions, but that's for one of your other podcast, Nick, but maybe you could send some questions in. I can't think of a title to loop in Dissection of Cadavers, but we'll get there. I have one last one, and it's the Raiders um and their secondary, just because it's not necessarily much different on paper. But my big

question Marcus Damon Arnett. You know, you spend a high pick on him, and he was a non factor last year. He dealt with injuries, and but after Mike Mayock spent the offseason trashing their defense, and then they, you know, put some effort toward it. They drafted safety Travon Merrigg. I just I need to see. I don't know what

to expect from this group. I mean, it's not necessarily that I don't know who is projected to be the starters, but I have no idea what they're gonna get, um, other than that Jonathan Abraham is going to be in the box more and he already plays like a psychopath, so we might as well, uh, you know, enjoy him being around the ball more. I mean, he might have been the biggest problem in the defense. Full of them, I'm glad you brought them up, just because I kind

of forgot about Casey Hayward. They signed Casey Hayward. He might be their slack guy. But I I mentioned, uh, I'm probably basing this on like too small of a sample size and everything. But when I watched Damon Arnette last year, I thought he looked pretty good. I know he did not test out well and he gave up some big plays, but him and Trayvon Mullen, like I thought, they have shown some things. And young cornerbacks are It's tough, man. It is tough to come into the NFL as a

young cornerback. And I think both of them actually have flashed a lot. Like people think they're busts, and I thought both of them have shown something. So it wouldn't shock me if those two guys improved. Yeah, definitely like Mullins more than our net. But I mean Mullins has a little bit more of of you know, sample size so far. So it's disgust Bradley to put it all together. I'm not so sure. Alright, good stuff and check it

out NFL dot Com slash projected starters. It's kind of pretty much ever in content you could read it now projected starters that you could read it now, you could read it a month from now, and you'll kind of be up to date. But I told Ali, I'm done until the season. This works as a season preview I didn't tell Ali. I'm just hiding. I am unreachable. I have more content to get to Ali today. As the rule of fives. As promised on Tuesday, we asked for

were some reviews and stars over on iTunes. Checked it out, went over to the iTunes. Got a decent amount. I gotta be honest with you, Greg, you appealed to the audience. They didn't. We gotta. We got a nice handful, but I was hoping for many, because again, it's the only thing we ask for. Well, that's maybe, it's it's not maybe again, five stars, five stars, leave review that's all we ask. All right, let's get into it. This one from this from c l GO three. I love the hosts,

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friendship talking about Chris really helps me through it. I would call him West, but that seems like a nickname you have to earn. I'm just a lowly listener. That is not true. West was down to be called West by anyone. I don't want to lessen my compliment with an NFL question. I'd have some, but I'd rather just leave a great review. Oh that's very nice, Williams. Thank you Williams, and you understood it. These were good reviews. I assumed you maybe maybe picked the best of them,

so they were even more. But good job. I think I think we can do better, maybe come back strong again. We'll do it again some other time. Yeah, that's that. We call for more reviews. Send us uh your reviews and we will read them on the air potentially. All right, shure. Oh, before we say goodbye, Ricky, something very exciting, speaking of vanity projects, you have something to share. Yes, So the broadcast my podcast that I do with Emma got signed by All Things Comedy. So we're gonna be on the

A t C network. Really excited. So, um, if the A t N listeners want to do me a little favor and go over there and subscribe or check out an episode. There's episodes, actually not Nick, but everyone else in here that you guys have your own episodes and they're great. We wrote a funny scrap to where Mark red basically him going crazy and getting a huge tattoo of Baker Mayfield after they win the super Bowl. So a little foreshadowing about what life would be like. Um,

I think it's great. But yeah, I'm excited. Congratulates. So you're now being you're being paid now for for the show? Well, yeah, ad sales potentially any retroactive kicks to the people that I think the you know between the lines there. Yeah. Well but yeah, Mark, if you go, you know, pump up your own episode, I can work something out for you. Then when the Browns do win the super Bowl, we should like have a listening party to that episode. Compare

it with reality. It'll be it'll be fun, good, really excited. Check out the broadcast. Check out j r VP. I have a throwback podcast. My buddy Bob would do the show with him kills me. He absolutely destroys for never promoting the show, and I say, listen, I'd like to keep my world separate whenever possible. But since everyone else is uh getting their plugs in, and I will mention it and I'll make sure he knows that I did,

and the listeners will as well. I imagine. Well, let's give Bob Show a pop too, because my kids were literally I'm not exaggerating, counting down the days before Lego Masters came back. And first, you know, we had that DVRD. Bob's working on Lego Masters. We had a DVRD and first thing, you know, get home from school. That's it's it's it's a total hit. And I think I like that Bob is a producer on the show and he

works very closely with Will Arnette, the host. I just I can't share any of the stories that I've heard, but it's it's very interesting to learn what goes on inside the Hollywood machine with someone on the edges of the Illuminati. Now you want to think Arnette was on the edges, but he's there exclusive club. Whoa. That was insane? What did I oversell it? It's just, you know, it's you get a good peek into the show business world.

That's I mean, yeah, I was kind of wondering, like the photos of him with all the legos behind, I'm like, how did you get that? You know, you gotta do some bartering behind the scenes, you know, to make that happen, which I any Illuminati people out there I'm willing to have a conversation. Oh Ricky, this is not a good look for you, but you'll give up anything to be inside the circle. Yeah, your quest for fame is just endless, it is, and it's leaving a path of destruction in

his wake. Like what do I have to do to get a yacht? Like it could have been that bad? Just ask dad? Um, alright, yes, check out Ricky's show the broadcast. Hey you and Nick Chook, you've done it again. You said it all and um thank you for joining us today and look forward to having you on again on the show again soon and of course during the

regular season as well. Yeah, certainly love being on, love being around you guys, even though you know we're remotely, you know, not quite hanging out in l A. But uh yeah, it's it's it's been a blast as always. The thanks, Yeah, thank you, Choky. All right, this is Dan hands Is signing off for the Quiet Storm, the Old Boss, the Unshookable Nick Shook. What I think I had like a really bad nickname that everyone hated. No, I'm forgetting it, damn it. It was something inappropriate like

the pipe. The pipe, the pipe. The pipe did not catch trying to get this pipe, Ricky Hollywood. Check out the around the NFL broadcast Friday on the network right after Good Morning Football. Until then, heed the call.