Poolside Chats with Peter Schrager and Jane Slater

We thought it was seven eight hundred more well more than that, into the nine hundreds or something in that r and Dan just asked, after um a first take on his opening words to the show, if those were the actual words, then you had to cycle my final you know. We're here at the beautiful Fairmont um Hotel resort in Santa Monica for the NFL Media Talent Summit, which we somehow get invited to every year, and so we have a great show coming up where we have

some interviews with Jane Slater and Peter Schraeger. But we're taping the show essentially in a hallway, and because we're not in the studio, you don't have the music from the cans and a little I'm at a place out of sorts a little bit. It makes complete said. The smile was because I've never heard Dan's you know, deep bass voice is booming so loudly in this hallway here.

I love it. That was a contributor U. This is a fun event for around the NFL podcast because we are kind of men without a country a little bit like they today. For instance, they had what they call a breakout seminars where they break the entire media group. So they fly everybody in from all the talent and the reporters and the analysts all to this hotel. They put them up in the hotel. Uh. We have to

commute here, but it's understandable. And the day too, this is the second and final day, they break it up into hosts, reporters, analysts and it's it's basically a boot camp and a way to converse and communicate all in the same place. And um, I you know, I've been hosted this podcast for a long time and we do things on live Twitter shows, we do NFL Network hits. When they said all right, go where you you go?

I walked to the uh the host room, and I walk in Colleen Wolves there, Rich Eyes in UH unit and just Siciliana all the other hosts, and uh, yes, I'm not on network all the time, but clearly that's my role. I'm not a reporter and I'm not a pure analyst. So I sit down and by the time I even have a chance to like pick my head up, the man running the meeting, a shadowy leavier, says Dan, actually,

you're not in this group. You're with the reporters. And I was like Hammon, Hamma, hammeda and that was just kind of the So I saw it back like Charlie Brown style through the hallways to find you guys, uh for that seminar. But you gentlemen are not reporters either, so we are kind of just floating. I guess closer to analysts more than I anything else, but that the vibe of the event is gathering, communicating, and it was a fun It was a fun two days, and we've

made some progress. Now they do this six minute sizzle reel. They did a couple of different ones of them of like highlights during the year, and it used to get on our radar that that we were not even be involved in that, that we're small men, yeah in the in that, but we are now they make sure to put one clip. Now, if we wanted to still be small men, we could that they only put in the two different videos each. We got one in each, and it was only when it was a clip with another

major star Joe Thomas and one Alvin Camar. So the next step will be when just the four of Us is worthy. It is a step in the right direction because it was a year ago that they simply shoved every podcast into one of thirty slides and a slide show and it was about eight seconds where you had to quickly scan every pot and ours was the four of Us and who I think they believed was Colleen Wolf, but it was actually little debris dressed up in her,

so you know that. To me, it was kind of amazing to be like a Corporo event with like Michael Irvin just rolling his eyes and making facial expressions because he doesn't like what's going on, Like what else could you do that There was a slightly different tenor this year, I thought then last year, because it is a television network that is learning to face the reality that mobile platforms and digital platforms are not only just as important,

but more important than television going forward, and that was a big emphasis of the meetings, and that's gonna give us a little bit more attention than we said. All Right, we have so much to get to and West, let's save it for the end of the show. A little update on the corporate jargon this year or last year, if you remember, if you're a longtime listener. Uh, we hear a lot of these corporal buzzwords, uh like above the tree tops and uh lit open, open the kimono,

and we're fascinated by them. But most of the Shadow of League figures hear them and say them so much that doesn't even register. Toss. We have West, who's our official. Uh. He's he transcribes everyone and will check in on what our new corporate jargon is for nineteen. And let's also we'll share some thoughts, maybe some bullet point takeaways at the end of the show. But before that, let's get going with two really great interviews. Uh. First up, she

covers the Cowboys for NFL Network. She's Jane Slater, So let's go now. And we did this. By the way, this was very I'm gonna say it was classy. It was. It was a little bit exotic, bit of a throwback to a Don Draper risk time. I believe maybe like a rat pack scenario. We went to the old Fairmont pool, sat on the chairs, Ricky Hollywood, thank you for setting it up for us. You're welcome. I got some nice

time by the pool waiting for you guys. It was great reading your book and and so this is what we call pool side chats, starting yes with Jane Slater pool side All right. Here we are pool side chat at the Fairmont Hotel Bungalow here in Santa Monica. The son's out and it's even sunnier because Jane Slater is joining us for the first time. I mean around the NFL podcast. Welcome James. Wow, Jane, what what that's on us?

I think that this should have happened probably two or three years ago, but we decided, like there's enough cowboys content on our network. So it kind of hurt you here that we you know, it's like, all right, we don't really need anymore, but you're more than just the cowboys. I kind of fan girl you guys a little bit after the owners meetings. I mean I just I literally became a fan girl. Did it come across? I feel? Yeah, Yeah,

this is this is great? Jane? Of course a reporter of Frederical Network and do a lot of Cowboys and Saints stuff. That that's your two main beats. Is that fair to say say it's Cowboys Saints if I'm yeah, yeah, old handcuffs is what I call the team. What do you find great beat? It's this glamour beat. It's Dallas. The storylines right themselves. But I can't get out of there to save my life. But you grew up a cow you grew up in the Dallas area. You got a Cowboys fan? Or no? Yeah, I mean I went

to the parade in the nineties. Everybody wore starter jackets in middle school. And we have more questions about Jane Slider's life in Dallas in the North Texas area. We're gonna get to that. But why don't we Why don't we start with with the Cowboys and let me jump in with the first question boys and I'll start here. That's how this works. I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna throw out a bit of a conspiracy theory

for you, Jane, as someone who's right plug. Greg by the way, now posing up a side in and none of the lounge chairs. Like we just we just went through a workplace behavior meeting. Greg. We have a lot of personal space between us. There's a lot of personal space, all right. Anyway, Um, Jason Witten, here's my conspiracy theory. You tell me if it's off base or inappropriate, or leave the pool if it gets bad. I'm curious what

his roles in the offense. And here's the theory. This is an all time Cowboy, one of the franchises Shining Suns. And my theory is that Big d did a big favor for Mr Witten, who was, let's be fair, not doing well in his broadcasting role, and here comes Jerry to save the day. Hey, we'll get you out of

that situation. You could leave bow out gracefully, come here, work with the kids, work, come for the summer camps training camp, and then we could have a nice little retirement on the eve of week one and he'll never play another snap for the Cowboys. And this has all been a nice situation helping out one of the great players. Well, before I dive into that, I mean, pink Pony was such an amazing name for the conspiracy theory. Where are

we calling this theory. Wow, I would work shop at You don't have to come put it now, you've got time to, you know, put it out there in Brandon Silver Pony. But she's showing the bona fides right now. As So here's what I'll say. It's it's not a bad theory, and it's one I too thought about, but I was there. Scott Hanson of course comes to Dallas. He doesn't want to go to drinks on the patio. He wants to take him to Star in Frisco for a tour of the facility on my day off. So

of course I did that that right. So this was right after Combine when we found out that Witten's coming back, and I kid you not, Jason went was up there like a little kid at school with his his books, ready to get back to work. And when you talk to him, there's this intensity, but there's also this humility. You know, he lost his locker, Zach Martin has it now. He says he doesn't have his parking spot anymore. And when I see him in practice, he's out there barking

the way that he did when he played. They say that they're going to take him off the field and let Blake Jarwin and Dalton Shoulton. Those guys play, He's gonna make it difficult on them. He's come back completely in shape, and so I know everyone says that about training camp, but right shaved head, we can unpack that here in a little bit. Uh. It showed him that

he's a warrior, you know. I think he was looking to clean cut with the hair, so I think he needed that to be warrior us when he came back. But I've been watching practice and we're not allowed to talk anymore about certain things that we see. We got a little note from the pr department, but how they're using him is different. Right now, I'll just leave you

with that. Well, and also making a lot less money, So I don't know if that's humbling, but he's an athlete who got that experience of what am I going to do for the rest of my life that can give me even a fraction of the satisfaction that playing football did, And he didn't like it. I don't even even if you was getting better reviews and money named football and was like a little more comfortable, You're never

going to replace that juice. So it's sort of something like someone that had a near death experience that's coming back and they're enjoying the life that they had. I mean, he knows if this is his only year playing football again, like he's probably never gonna do anything for the rest of his life that gives him that level of like satisfaction. And so to his credit, he's gonna enjoy the crap out of it. But I don't really buy that he's gonna be any faster than he was two years ago

when he couldn't move. So he he'll help them and be a blocking tight end. It's hard to imagine to difference maker. But you know, I did ask him that I said, and it wasn't disrespect any of our analysts here, but I'm like, they've got a pretty cushy job. You know, you get six months out of the year, like you're really they really don't call him these guys to do a ton of stuff. You're making great money. He's just so good at putting in the work and seeing it translate,

and I think he struggles. I didn't think the situation was right from an ESPN either. I mean, it was kind of been with Testatory and Booger and uh Lisa. I just felt like there's so many voices and the way they disconnected the Fox like d team with which is what I mean. Troy kind of like paid his dues, the barbers, They paid their due. So I think it wasn't the best situation for him, But I truly believe

he loved football, missed it so much. And he literally told me like there was there was still something in him that he had unfinished business. I mean, if you talk to Dez Bryant right now, he'll tell you the exact same thing. There's something about Dallas. These guys like don't want to leave. DeMarco didn't want to leave, DeMarcus where didn't want to leave. Different everywhere else. We cover them differently. The country thinks about them differently. They're the

glamour team. Like if there's a reality show outside of Hard Knocks, it would always be the Cowboys all or Nothing. It was a great series on Amazon product. How could you ever go cover like the Jaguars or something after this? I mean everything with the Cowboys top flight and including I imagine the reporter experience. It's different. Even when I go to New Orleans. I mean it's such a smaller market. I mean, I haven't even been to New Orleans at all this offseason for O T A S what you

name it. And they've made some good moves um in New Orleans, but I haven't been there to talk about it. The Cowboys, I've said, have been actually really quiet and seemingly as functional as they've ever been. And the since there's no drama Queens, they've actually I think they've loaded up quietly with some talent in free agency, Randall Cobb.

I don't talk enough about what we've seen from him, and then the uh, the the running back they just got from Memphis, the fourth rounder Tony why I'm drawing a blank, right, We'll be learning more about him soon. Yeah, but yeah, I I literally like they are functional and I think they're actually going to be competitive this year. Let me ask you the way that he is so easily just acclimated that locker room like he you feel

like he wanted to be in Dallas. And when he told us a story that he went up to Dak Prescott a NFL honors and said, come and get me if you get the chance, it was a sense that he wants to be there, and because I guess because he played quarterback to at Kentucky. Dak was telling us that he's even sort of he speaks Ducks language and they're communicating kind of the way I'm Mary Cooper does. So that's what those are, the science that tell me

that they're actually functional. Finally, there is a thread that connects the Cowboys in the Saints and has for years overtly but also through Whisper Channel, and that's Sean Payton. Here we conspiracy. I just want to ask your opinion, because you're closer to these two teams than anyone else at our network. Let's say we all live to be nineties something year olds years old. Will there be a time where Sean Payton is the head coach of the Cowboys in your opinion, I don't care when. Why wouldn't

be shot? I think it's something that's always been in the back of his head. He's got a great relationship with Steven Jones and Jerry Um. They would Tony Romo without him, right. That's a great story when he tells it on the plane about when Jerry came over and asked him about Tony Romo, and I mean he literally turned him into the air apparent. Um. But I think he's gonna want a little bit more of which I think it's gonna be kind of like Bill Parcel's, it's

gonna be his last stop. I think if Sean doesn't sign a lifetime deal in New Orleans, I think you could see him going to a team that he feels the challenge of flipping over certain guys like that they need that. I mean, that's what Belichick did. I mean, just look at Belichick, Gruden, and Parcels move and then you can sort of dictate the life planned, the life

map for Sean Payton. In my opinion, based on some of our discussions, he was putting it out there Sean Payton through reporters that there could have been a time that he could have moved a couple of years ago, but that was before they had two great seasons and then the scenes gave him like all the money in the world. I don't think great leverage for contracts, believe it.

Let me paint a picture. Here. We are sitting pool side, four of us being scorched by the sun, and a staff worker came over to open a massive umbrella that covers only Greg's visage. Well, Eric, I don't wanted it, Like, why would we say, why would I say it was a little on the nose. Yeah, that's true, beautiful. I feel like you guys should actually move this summer. You guys should do a summer series and do poolside chats, you get sponsored. You guys could probably get some free

rooms and free drinks here. Yes, I don't think you guys are thinking. I think you're too myopic about the way you do your podcast. Conspiracies will be in the name. Yeah, let me ask you this. Let's stick with the Cowboys because you said your gig is there at the Star Power structure with the Cowboys. All right, Jara turning seventy seven in October? What what is the situation there now? Like? What? And do you sense a changing of the guard over

the last couple of years? And much when I see sports talk to you in Dallas, I would sort of reference some of those things I was seeing. And Jerry does not like any uh, he doesn't like anyone, alluding to the fact that he's not in control anymore. But to me, when they said goodbye to Does Bryant, that was Stephen Jones handprint all over it, and I've covered does. You guys don't have a great relationship with does. It

needed to be done because it got them a Marie Cooper. Ultimately, it cleared up some couch space and the locker room. Just the focus was really kind of on the game plan and that he was part of that last group. Tony Romo de Marco Mori names it was a tough decision to make, but had Stephen Jones all over And I think when we talk about this functional it's not a slap in Jerry Jones's face, but I think Stevens sort of moving this team forward making those difficult decisions.

I mean, he would get so emotionally attached to some of these players and that's what was getting them in trouble because they were backloading. The money was killing them in the cap space, and then these guys weren't able to play. And I don't believe Wit would be back if Witt didn't come back on the dally K back saying with Shaun Lee, well, they seem to be more

rational and less um emotional about their decision making. And I think when I look at the last sort of like twelve months of what this team has done, I love the way they're building and you look at the off season they bring Travis Frederick back if things look like they're going pretty well there. They bolstered their defensive line a little bit. Is there any reason to believe this team will not be better than they were last year when they closed out this season as one of

the best teams in the NFL. I'd be absolutely shocked for the reasons that you just mentioned. The problem that they had I felt like for the longest time was because they're playing all these aging veterans, they weren't able to really develop depth behind these guys. Yeah, and so now they've got They've got depth all across the offensive line. I mean, Joe Looney was a hell of a center last year, and now you've got him as a backup trush Frederick, got Connor McGovern and Connor Williams that are

flex players on the offensive line. And then the one area they really need to beef up though, in my opinion, is still the cornerback, because I mean, is the safety position still something they can They've been struggled a little. Eric. I'm not demanding that you what about this conspiracy theory, though, here's the reason why to believe that they won't be as good because they're never as good as they were the year before, whenever they've had a good season, and

does that have to do with this year? Theory, there's been no back to back NFC. My theory is that in Dallas, the fans and the team and Jerry and the ownership and even maybe Jason Garrett who's on the last year, they seem to really like be pleased with themselves and think that they're going to start at the

point that they left. Uh the season or if you had told me that the two thousand eight Cowboys or was it the two thousand nine coming up that season where they were the one seed would have not made the playoffs, would have been a disappointment, Like I would have never believe that team was as loaded as ever. But it's almost like in Dallas there, as you said, no one wants to leave because they're treated like such demigods.

It's the NFL where there's such small margins that I don't know what it is, but that it's been impossible. They literally haven't done it to repeat two years of success back to back. It's true years. Uh. They sell optimism well in Dallas, and I'm drinking the kool aid just based on what I've seen at practice so far and having covered them when they were so incredibly as functional for so many years. I mean, think about it, Jason Garrett's got to be more hungry motivated he's ever

been because he's playing on his last year's contract. Dak wants that contract, needs to validate it. Zekiel it got his fifth year option, but they're gonna I'd be shocked if that deal gets done this summer. You've got a more Cooper that's coming up on a deal, and so I just feel like the timing feels right. The only thing that if I'm if I'm a fan and I'm concerned, I'm looking at their schedule that's six game stretch starting

in late November three December. That's a bear. I think they're gonna have a hard time with that and the fact they have no back to back home games this year. Alright. Finally, Jane and all great info. You can follow Jane at Slater NFL. You can also follower on the Graham What is your Graham handle at Jane Ashley Slater Quite an experience,

by the way, and this is Yacht's cowboy hats. So let's I guess so many questions about my gram letne So I always just feel like it's just my friends watching and always forget that it's like coaches, GMS, agents, bosses internally tell us more about discussion. The Dallas Arlington debutante society that you inhabit. Arlington is not who's what I see, boats, bikinis, beer, buddies, just the good life, and you're a part of it when you're flying high. I'm gonna dig in a little deep for you, guys.

A lot of people don't know this. That was I was married when I was twenty six divorce. I had five jobs to pay the bills as recently as six years ago. So now I've like I'm in the sweet spot in my life. I don't need a man to financially support me. I love my job, and so I truly like adopt live breathe preach the yellow lifestyle, and it rubs people the wrong way. So it robs people the wrong way. But I'm like, I wake up every morning,

I want to put my feet on the ground. I'm generally excited that I got a bonus day, Like I believe that bus. I could literally talk about that with you guys, but it's so funny. It's like they're I was like, you're living your best point, You're fluxing on the ground, like no, I'm just I hope I inspire you all to go out there and live your best life. Well,

we have talked about this at the Owners Means. We had a conversation about you have lived a pretty colorful life in the past, and you kind of like, I'm I'm in all of like your ambition, Like you at one point you want to sell real estate on the side, and you're I can call you want to better myself? You can get this. You understand this more than anyone. Oh, I've never been quite the accomplisher, I will say for

the sake of the stake of transparency. Occasionally on the show we ban what we consider to be uh in our world phrases that we were through with and I around six or seven months ago banned hashtag yolo. But I'm I will do I also have the power to lift the bin and for you because the way that it seems like a consistent drumbeat that's not a flash in the pan type scenario. It is lifted. Yolo is lifted for you. We can rebrand my lifestyle you could

do that. I don't think you need to think what you've said here is great, because I think if you don't know you, or if you're just kind of crabby about social media, people see that and they think, Okay, that's that self promotion or that's such out their life. But what you're saying is you, and I think all of us can speak to this on on some level,

is we're reaching apart in our lives. We're either approaching were approaching forty like Dan, or we're over it and we have a job that we love and we have a life that we love. So why not be honest about it your best life. I approached some other people. I mean, you're down the barrel of age four, so enjoy it, because nothing's guaranteed. If you're not going to enjoy it now, it's who knows. I flew out here on Sunday. I was supposed to leave today. I reached

out to a couple of my friends. I'm gonna yellow until Sunday. I'm just staying out here. Children in the next six to twelve months. Either of that. They will also help with the lifestyle. Just yeah. I have no emotional attachments to animals. Or others. So yeah, nothing, you would have a hard time sessler lifestyle right now. I don't think my current arrangement, but lying in bed of his eyes open tonight, staring at the ceiling, thinking about

how we could have your life right now. Although Ricky Williams, when I worked at Longhorn Network, he had a similar gypsy, but he would tell his girlfriend or his significant at the time, I'm just going to Italy for a month, and he did it a free spirit. Yeah, all right, we gotta go, we gotta get back to the semi. We're having a great time. We'll have to do this again. Because Jane, you're awesome. You match the sensibility. We don't get to live the life you live, but I would

encourage you too. I hope that if we've walked away from anything this conversation, I hope that in six months we're talking about your yoload summer. I just got like that next five days while Jane is still around in town, we just give up all of our responsibilities. Uh sorry, kids, yellow a little bit more in life. I think I've encouraged her. Yeah, she's been yellowing a lot, a positive

impact on her. You've taken her under your wing. All the haters she's flying though, that little bird is flying. All the haters don't give Jane a hard time. That includes inside our own building. We're going to deal with some of them right after this. Jane's later NFL Network follower. She's the best. Thanks Jane, guys, Thanks Jane Side pool side. All right, that was awesome, Jane Slater, Thank you again. Jane.

We have to have Jane on again because she has and I imagine our listeners are going to embrace Jane. She has a certain qua that connects with us and the audience. Wow, you almost nailed that. But how what is it? No? I think I had it, Mark? What about her? Jane bravely living her best life on Instagram? And I was surprised. She said it was something she's trying to teach. He's trying to impart that on people. One day. Do you believe you will be in that position? Well?

I hope to be. I mean, she's certainly um. You know you spend a little bit of time with her. I think number one and she's got self awareness. She has the ability to change your opinion about her social media footprint. To use a corporate word, it's certainly changed my one. I didn't know where I thought. This seems like a yacht writing, leisure seeking individual that occasionally checks

in for work. But when you hang with her for a little bit, she true Lee is embracing this lifestyle, and it gives me hope that maybe Sunday I will be riding boats and living the way that she does in such a high lifestyle. I hope to seek that same thing. When our grandparents were her age, the idea of work hard, play hard, it was almost strictly reserved for men. And a person like Jane is a work hard, play hard person and she she also is a fan

of the show. She says that she's a listener and frankly, um, that's all we really need, or at least I'm speaking for myself, that's you know, we're gonna be fans of Ricky. Do you aspire to have an Instagram on that level? Um? Getting their mind's pretty good. I mean it's fine. That was a political answer. I feel like the real Ricky answer is you're like mine is better? Yeah, I mean

I I live you know, I live hard. Everyone all the listeners check out both accounts and get back to Erica on Twitter at Ricky Hollywood, who has the better Graham account? Slater v temposse. I'm excited about that. All right, let's not spin forward. About ninety minutes later, the sun was out now was really starting to heat up. I'm just talking about the conversation, guys, dens eyes locking into

mine pool side chat with Peter Schreeger pool side. All right, here we are back at the pool, time for more pool side chats. And we got another great guest. Very excited to have him, you know, senior national writer for Fox Sports dot Com, Good Morning Football co host, also the co author of the New York Times bestseller Out of the Blue with a Victor Cruz story, which Kirkus Reviews called a quote above average sports autobiography around the NFL. This is great, guys, I love it. The scene here

outside the pool is something. Well. Yeah, we've we've had some families join us since Jane's interviews. Some other alcohol has been drunk out here. It's pretty great. But who has more jobs than than Peter? I mean, you didn't even mention, like Sideline reporter good Morning Football right now. Yeah, it's things are things are good? Is the off season and to be with you guys here pool side, with

all of us wearing shirts and ties. Everyone else is barely dressed as fantastic when you have so much to get to um Peter, of course, yeah. I mentioned Good Morning Football, who we view kind of as our our cool cousin that lives in Manhattan. Our podcast. There's there's some d NA, so we're happy to whenever we could

have somebody on from that show. It's great speaking of I mean, yeah, I feel like we we started the form format of having sort of four people with good chemistry featured on both NFL networking under the NFL shield. You guys came along us second and have excellent chemistry. To hear that a lot. Let's say there to be sort of a royal rumble situation, the four of us versus the four of you. I want you to put

your analyst hat on. Not you're not the one. You're part of that foursome again, right, We're like from an analyst angle, who wins that fight. You've got some strength, You've got some weaknesses, so do we. Here's what you guys have that we don't have at the moment. You have this incredible international fan base that I feel like would be doing all sorts of things on the back end that we would be hooligans. We would not be ready for this. I feel like the return buckle action

from your fans in Iceland all of this stuff. Right now, we're very limited to the thirty two fan bases and you know, the people who get the cable services that have the NFL network and watching our show. But you guys gets a universal and Sessler, I'm not growing with you, bro four on four though four on four you guys have a little more size, a little more size with Nate not across the board and us in good shape. Was just overall overall, I'm saying, yeah, no, I think

I think that's fair. I think but I've been listening to your podcast for years, and I think there is a place in sports, whether it be us talking or when I was like Simmons and Ryan Rassilio talking, like it's okay to just talk sports and not have a structured format and run down if here are a hundred things we have to hit click, click, clicklick, and if someone wants to interject and give another comment, it's okay

to go a minute longer and hit that topic. And get off tangent, which I think is kind of breaking them hold of what the traditional sports television show is. As Joe Bingo says, famula lips to God's exactly. All right, let's get into it because uh, Peter has really plugged in in the NFL um and we want to hit on a bunch of topics. We're gonna go right down the list, very structured. Yeah, that's just like I just real quick, no time for any real messing around. But no,

I want to start. Let's go with the top of the top right now, because I know you talked about Patrick Mahomes on Good Morning Football a lot, how much you were kind of ahead of the train a little bit about how good uh he would be, uh, and certainly he was last year as the m v P. A couple of weeks ago on the show, we did a segment called come Down Players of the Year. I throughout my homes is my come down player of the year in the sense that I drew a parallel to

eighty four Marinos season. After that, Marino was still an All Pro and an elite at the position, but eighty four was just special. And that's kind of how I predict the Mahomes season will go, but you don't necessarily agree with that. I'm doubling down on my Homes, I think, and everyone's like, well, statistically now, I think, No, I think statistically he could be as good, if not better, this year. He has a full off season with Andy.

And here's the thing everyone's gonna point to, Tyreek Hill might not be on the field, and they lost Chris Connolly and Crema. It is so rare from one of these offenses that puts up these historic numbers, which they did to also not have the entire brain trust of the offensive coaching staff taken from them. So unlike the Eagles a year ago, where De Filippo goes and Frank reichos and now we're dealing with new coaches. In this case, Eric b Enemy is back, Kafka is back, the head

coach is back. And I'm telling you, I talked to guys in Kansas City and they're like, Bro, you have no idea what he's about to do to the league this year, which gets me so excited because if the standard is fifty touchdowns and no look passes an m VP and Offensive Player of the Year, what's that mean?

It could be even better. I don't know what that is well that I think that's a great point because Mahomes it was so far ahead of almost anything that we've seen for a first year starter that it's almost it's almost like underrated, Like people are like, wow, imagine what Baker Mayfield could do this year in his second year.

It's like they're basically the same age. And Mahomes came into the league as the best player in the league, and some of the things that he did it was just like never seen before, So like, why couldn't he get better? We would expect pretty much any other starter going into his second year as a starter to get better. He more than any quarterback at least that I think we've i've ever seen since we've been covering it. He like breaks every rule or every boundary. That's absolutely And

here's the other part. He played baseball most of his high school. Like he's still getting full off seasons of learning how to play football, which is insane. But you're right. We do the stuff on our show and it's June and July and May where we're trying to make up any sort of contents, And one of the conversations was which which third year quarterback will have the best season, Trabinsky,

Watson or Mahomes. And I was like, downright insulted how we could even put Watson in Trabisky in the same conversation as Mahomes, who might end up being the best quarterback we've ever seen where he plays. So it's like he was that good in year two, and I think Marino's the only comparison when it. Roethlisberger was a great on a team they won the Super Bowl. All that we've seen that happened Russell Wilson, but no one individually has been as good as that dude was last year.

I've never seen a precedent, or at least I can't think of any going through any quarterback ever where they came in and early in their career they either shattered or threatened all time passing records, had a singular NFL season, and then was able to repeat it the next year.

I know. And that's the thing. I think he could be even bet And I don't want to because I don't know what I don't know, but what I'm here, and there's an assumption in Kansas City that at least for the majority of this season number ten, Tyreek Ko will be there. So we've heard that leaked out a little places where they're saying, oh, well, they're going where everyone else is under the assumption it's gonna have to

be Sammy Watkins. He thinks that there's some team like teammates and no, it's more just the feeling around the league is that we're that. Kay. Now, look, the NFL can come out and say, just like with Ezekiel Elliott, like here's six games, whatever it is. But this thought that you know, Tyreek suspense is a definite from what

I'm here, there's no definite in either way yet. So a fair bet that he'll be on the field or not I think at this point, and that's fine, But there is also that he might be on the field. Well the chief case, that's a totally different story. The Chiefs have obviously left the door open, and that's that's something, uh that we we've been talking around the show for a few weeks now that it's just kind of been something that's been hanging out there and at some point

we're gonna get some type of resolution. But there's no reason to think that Tyreek Hill won't be on the team at some point, Uh, let's pivot here, because you were all in, Like I said, on Mahomes before. Mahomes through fifty touchdowns and through for five thousand yards, took the league by storm, transformed the Chiefs into a Super Bowl contender. Is this guy that just got picked number one by the Cardinals Arizona rolled the dice in a bit,

you know, in a ballsy way. You don't want to give him too much credit because they drafted a quarterback number ten and then bailed on it. But it's ballsy in the sense that if this guy is as good as they think he is, they transformed their franchise. You're feeling bullish on Kyler Murray making making a huge impact,

a Mahomesyan impact. No, not the status wise, but I think the first six weeks of the Arizona Cardinal schedule Mahomes, I mean, Murray's gonna do stuff that is gonna blow our mind, and then there's gonna be a book on him, and then there's gonna be potential injuries. But out of the gate, I could see the Cardinals being four and to five and one, just because Cliff and Kyler are

aware of what they're about to do. And the confidence in that building is that they have a leg up on something, and if it just because there's no film on it and you're not seeing preseason or training camp, they're about to do some stuff that the NFL hasn't seen before, in a very much similar fashion to the way Griffin took the league by storm, and in a bit of a way how Chip Kelly took the league by storm, which is really the way Andy Reid started the last three season. Smith he was just kind of

ahead of the game. That's it. So maybe there's a catch up to it. But um, Kyler is awesome. I think Kyler has got one of the best arms in the league. And to the same point, I just made my home. Kyler Murray is a two sport athlete. He's never played football in the spring in his life, like this is his first season ever learning in offense for

an entire offseason. So they took us. And I was not overly critical of Josh Rosen throught this pre draft process, but everyone was treating Rosen like he was worthy of that same conversation. Here's what I would post to you guys. If Steve Kime doesn't trade up and takes Josh Rosen as the fourth quarterback and the tenth overall pick and gives up a third rounder to get him. Is Josh Rosen a top ten pick? Is Josh Rosen a top

fifteen pick? Is Josh Rosen a first round pick? We only think of him as a top ten pick because of the team went up and got him. But we're not so certain. I don't think Miami was taking say, and he could have been we don't know. He could have been Brady Quinn or Hey, he could have gone in the second round and then there wouldn't have been this whole hubub about this. It could have been just

like when wearing the Smith sweater or Jimmy Clawson. It took him all the next year because they're like, all right, but this thought that you know, Josh Roseen top ten quarterback. It's true, he's top ten quarterback, but the team that drafted another quarterback was also the team that traded up to get him in the top ten. So we don't know.

Because he was such a polarizing prospect, and some teams it seemed like, would not even do their homework on him, had no interest in him, and some teams were like, yeah, this guy's the most pro ready quarterback. Obviously we like him, and then he was on the market. And again I'm not trashing Josh Rosen. I'm rooting for Josh Rosen. I think he's actually great character of the league. He actually

speaks his mind. It's rare and it's nice. But he essentially was traded for Andy Isabella this year on the open market. Speaking of like that is that's sort of concern I'd have with Murray. Murray is exciting because just the combination of the arm and that level of running is I don't know if who's coming into the league quite like that, because I think people watching their practices are just like Derek Anderson. Ye the Baker Mayfield armor better,

but but the with the running. But there was some talk here from reporters that have been at Cardinal's practice that they're in big time concerns with Andy Isabella and Kim Butler, that they it's like counting on rookie wide receivers, especially one from U mass and one that fell to the fourth round, that it hasn't taken long even at offseason practices to be like, oh maybe maybe like these guys aren't gonna be ready, even if Kyler Murray's ready.

We're talking about a team that had one of the worst offensive lines, one of the worst wide receiver corps, one of the worst tight end rooms in the NFL. I know, and I think he can cover it all up. I think he's I honestly think yeah. I think he's gonna be a sensation this year. And I want you to enjoy it. I want you guys to do that stuff like good morning football, like coming up with nicknames. Maybe he could be right a spice. One very quick question for you, and you can keep it to one word.

When you look around the circle here, four of us, which one do you respect the most? Um, it's a big question, Greg whoa there's only one that is absolutely would not have asked that question had I knew you were going to go in that direction. That doesn't help my means or my angling at all. Actually, now that you answered it that way, we're gonna have to dig in hard on the next top one. There's a there's a story that runs in the New York Daily News. Uh,

here's the headline. Jets have discussed TV personality Peter Schrager in general manager search colon sources Now, this, I imagine was a completely weird slash uncomfortable situation for you, because all of a sudden you're a big part of the headlines. Minisha Meadow, who wrote that piece, wrote that you would be contacted for assistance on prospective candidates. Is the Jets

look to replace Mike mccagnan. Do you wanna use this forum pool side chats to clear the air on that whole saga because you were kind of the center of the New York media storm for a little bit there. Thank you. All right, So the truth the matter is, I've known the owner, Christopher Johnson in any way. I would know some of the other owners um that I've gotten to speak with at the owners meetings combines, and I could name those names. I don't have to name

those names at all. But Uh, this part of the story that came out was that I attended Christopher's wedding last year. That is true. That was fantasy. It was fancy, it was a great wedding. I was gonna say, uh, but here's the clarification on that situation. I had met Chris Johnson a few months earlier. We hit it off. When I say hit it off, it was he watches Good Morning Football on the treadmill in the morning, and

he was nice and we exchanged information whatever fast. For a whole months later, he texted me and says, hey, I got married a couple of weeks ago, but we're doing a little celebration in New York. It's at this hotel. If you want to pop by, come on by, bring your wife. You're welcome to. We went, We attended, it were probably there for sixty minutes. Time saw him and his wife said hello, introduced myself, and we moved right along little high society popping. It was hey, I've seen

Gossip Girl. I wanted to be a part of it. It was it. This was my moment um. When you hear that I'm at the wett you're picturing me being the ring bear. So like, it's hard for me to deny it. I was at the wedding, but it wasn't really the wedding. It was after whatever. Fine, So, uh, long story short, we keep in touch whatever, It's fine. Um. They reached out to me saying, hey, we might add another person to the preseason broadcast booth. I did the

RAMS last year with Nate Burlison and Andrew Ceciliano. They're like, if you know, if you don't want to do the RAMS, we'd be interested, but let's, you know, keep those doors open. Fine, talk to a lot of people around the league about a lot of things. I can assure you that I have not been reached out or was not reached out

about the Jets general manager position. I could also say that Minisia's report, he's not necessarily inaccurate because the report was that they might reach out to me, that they did or not that it was for the GM position. About my thoughts, and I'll tell you straight up. On our show for three hours a day, I talk about, Hey, Joe Douglas will be a potential good GM, or you know at Dodd's in Indianapolis is really well respected, he

might be a guy to look for. Or Terry McDonough in Arizona is I got so it wasn't what what was crazy? Though? And this is where again nothing against the Minisia report because he just put it out there and then it was actually it was probably accurate if they were considering me. It's because I do you know, no guys in that building. Um, they didn't reach out

to me. But the reaction was so vitriolic. So uh, I guess the word is the circus dysfunction, that they would think about talking to the fans, mean fans by the local New York sports media, by the sports radio, that national media national that the Jets must be completely completely out of their minds to ask someone who's on television talking about football about who they might And I'm here to say, I don't think if they were to reach out to Ian Rappaport or Adam Schaft or or

even you guys who treat this stuff like it's life and death twenty four seven hours a day, it wouldn't be crazy to get a collection of a lot of people's thoughts. Here is here is the lead of Menetia's article, especially the four of us. Just when you thought things couldn't get stranger on one Jet Strive, we present the latest head scratcher in the wake of Mike mccagnuant's outstair that and we talked about this on the Potoma Jets Fan.

If you're not but like um, that's rubbed me the wrong way, that this rush to to present them in a terrible light when it's smart to reach out to Peter stregor people that are plugged into the league. I'm not kissing as guys like you. It's it's not a bad idea. It doesn't make you dysfunctional. And here's the other thing. In years past, they've used a consultancy firms. So say Corn Ferry is one of these big consultancy firms.

You pay seven figures and they're gonna bring you the same list of names that I will bring you, or that Adam Schefter will bring you, or that Jay Glazer will bring you, or that you guys will bring Like here are the guys who are respected around the league that are probably next up for GM positions. Here's one in this city. Here's a minority. Can it You probably haven't thought over, haven't heard of that it might be good.

It's so in light of doing what we've done in the past and hiring guys that haven't worked out, let's try different opinions for free. And often what's innovative is laughed at out of the gate. And and you're someone that's talking to thirty two different teams everyday, bunkerd in person who's with one team, and sometimes those guys don't even know what's happening. In the world around them. There

France Shiss valued and over a billion dollars. It would be ridiculous, And we point this out all the time to limit the scope of your doing. Does happen. It's like you would how do you think your Dadam Schefter and Ian and Peter get that information. It's by sharing information.

That was the thing where I'm annoyed by the way that article like starts because Miniche knows that ultimately that like information is traded, and it doesn't mean they're just Okay, we're gonna do whatever Peter Straeger says, They're gonna Hey, maybe we have a specific question about one specific guy that you would know, you kind of know. You wouldn't know the dirt because you talk inside that billy and they're not getting the real scoop of what's inside. But

it was happening all the time. That's how they were dolting. That's how the game works. Love No, but honestly, like a couple of years ago, you know, I get to go on sideline work for Fox. I'm in the building every Friday, and I'm in since six am in the morning because I do Good Morning Football from the buildings. So if I'm doing sidelines for a Panthers Buccaneers game. I'm in Carolina, it's exam and oftentimes Ron Rivera will say, hey, pop by my office. Hey do you know Steve Wilkes.

He's there to fit backs coach. This guy is a stud. He's going to be a head coach in the NFL. You guys need to know each other because his work isn't recognized on a national level yet. Fast forward two years later, he's the Arizona Cardinals. That's how that happens. It's not because I can imagine Peter just kind of like creeping around corners, like like it's the defensive line. Like, hey, you guys, who are you? How does anyone worth hiring?

How does something like that not factor into your personal head coach rankings? When you see a coach whose that selfless and once like Bruce arians is known for this kind of stuff like his, doesn't that automatically make you think that that person is a better coach And you see how they lead, and you see how they're selfless, and I think you know, to mcveigh's credit, we talk

about the the McVeigh tree and all this stuff. There was a good article from Michael Silver this week and on the record, McVeigh is like, I think Matt Lafleur is one of the best. You know, it's okay to give love to others, and you see how these guys lead to interact with each other, and you don't get that if you're not in these buildings and get the opportunity to so. I guess, but it's also the reporter's

job to say, is this just popping up? I'll say this one more time on the Jets thing though, because I do want to make this point as well. I think that the Buccaneers used them, and I'm not knocking the work. They do everything as far as checking the box and covering your ass and everything you ever need to know. If there's a thing in someone's past, I might not know it, but these guys, that's part of

the consultancy process. That's why you use a search firm, because they'll know that this guy had an issue in high school and you might want to be aware of it. I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm or haven't had the I'm not gonna if you don't unless you pay in me. I'm not gonna do anything that stuff they paid the the consultancy firm or the search firm, you know, close to probably seven figures or high six figures, and the answer for who they recommended to be head

coach was Bruce Arians. Well right, which the guy at the bar still next to you could have done the same thing, you know, to ask around and to ask other people like who they would suggest. It's not crazy when the gold ribbon panel that is that you're paying high six figures for is suggesting a coach who has been in every organization and as sixty two years old. Well, now that we're sitting here with you, I mean you

are you know. I love the assistant coaches, We love the the guys that are rising up through the ranks in the front office. Can is there someone that comes to your mind sort of over and over as the next sort of unearthed Yes, Sean McVeigh from four years ago. Yeah, I see on the defensive side of the ball. And I'm not pumping his tires because we don't have a personal relationship. But Robert sala is the defensive coordinator of

the San Francisco forty Niners. They haven't had the pieces, but this guy leads by example and if you walk in that building, Kyle Shanahan is modified the guy, but that defense would run through a brick wall and would do anything for Salo And around the league he's been

in Jacksonville and Seattle. He is just viewed as one of these morally straight edge guy we want to work and next year he will be a name that everyone sorry who has not has ever had an opportunity, you know, in the past things um Less Sneak kind of said off handedly yesterday when we were talking to him, was did you guys addressed to the audience that less Sneed was here and the whole thing spoke give some context, but he said, kind of off handedly, I'm not worried

about Miami. They'll be fine. They got the right guy. You feel the same way. And I think there was a picture that their website put out or maybe someone else and I don't even know if it's out there, was like T n T. It's all over the building right now, and I think it's stood for like Team not Talent or something like that, like where it's it's one of those mantras that like the come in like I want to. But the fact he didn't crown, uh, Rose and his quarterback right away. He's like, no, he's

gonna earn it. The fact that those young players are fired up, and the fact that he brought with him a lot of that Patriots brain trust. It's gonna um, They're gonna be all right. Back to Houston and Jets real quick. Why is no one in the media going nuts about the circus and dysfunction and what Houston just did. It was not treated in the same light as the Jets. And is it just the media market that, Hey, John mcclaim is the guy and this is what he says,

and the local beat reporter reported it this way. So locally, I think it is they got savage pretty hard in the Chronicle. No one. No one cares for whatever. No one cares nationally what Brian Smith of the Chronicle rights or what McCain I think on the right I'm saying, I'm saying locally, no they I think O'Brien's not that O'Brien, And it might be because of the relationships he's built

with nationally, which is another story. I don't think he's as popular locally as he is nationally, which is strange. This is an eleven and five team that won the division last year and had no first or second round picks and had no salary cap and they fired the GM yes one year into a five year deal, and not one person on our network or ESPN is going nuts. Like the Jets situation where they said, what are you doing well? The Jets were five and eleven, six and

ten and six and ten the last three years. Hasn't have been in the DNA over the last decade for and unrightly, but it's New York team to Savage the Jets left and right, because the Jets have been the Jets. It's not is it fair? No? I agree with Dan's

fury over to some degree institution. My answer from an outside if I wasn't a Jets fan, I'd probably enjoy it too, because the Jets are one of those franchise franchises that people seem to enjoy to watch the the train go off the tracks and then it's a bit of a pylon. The Texans don't have that same situation. To be fair, there there is one commonality among the Jets of the last twenty years and is the last

name of the owner and hasn't changed. True. Well, I think the answer to your question isn't because how they're covered. When somebody in the Jets locker room sneezes, it's news and nobody cares what the texts. Uh, Peter Schreger, you've said it all. Yeah, you've done it. You came, you laid in the sun. It's great. You never even not even any flop sweat. Just show us how comfortable you are in this setting. A thousand right now. Follow Peter at p Schreig's s h R A G S. This

is a little show within a show. I feel like you guys should never be in a locked in a studio again, you live in l A. Should be outdoors, pool side and everyone's a little cooler, a little looser, and if beverages were included, I wouldn't have get some speedos involved. That's why it's get weird that the people around us might not agree. But Peter, thank you so much. And yes, watch Good Morning Football, follow Peter's reporting on television and on the internet and all that good stuff.

You're the man, Peter, Thank you. Thanks guys, loved it.

Thanks Peter. Pool Side pool Side. That was excellent, great inside from Peter, and you could tell Peter had wanted to get that jet stuff off his chest for a while, and I don't know if he had the ability to do that on Good Morning Football, But the shadowy league figures maybe not aware that you were the perfect for that to happen, because I think you you are a Jets man with with the most and that we I can't believe that's going to make it into the show. If it did, I have no um. All right, so

there you go. Can't wait to tell Peter who I respect most on Good Morning Football. All right, here we go. Let's now before we go, and by the way, last year and the year before, um Al river Iron, who is the have officiating for the NFL. Always the most fireworks is when Al takes the microphone and the Xbox controller and goes over the rule changes. And obviously with the past interference uh O p I and d p

I now reviewable. UM, that led to a pretty fiery series of exchanges with a lot of the former players, especially uh. We will get to that on let's say, next week show, Monday show next week because we want to devote a little bit more time and we don't want to run too long today. So Al river Iron's state of the Union at the NFL Media Summit. We'll hit it on Monday, but for now, to close out today's show, some general takeaways UH from the media. So

it will start with you, Chris Wesley. Well, first of all, it's a room full of talented people. That's why they call it the Talent Something. And I'm always blown away by how strong minded and how talented and how ambitious the people in the room are. But I also I took so many notes that my pen ran out of ink. Half my notebook is full. And the big totally unique,

humble Bragg no one has ever done that. The big takeaway for me is there are two kinds of people in this room, the kind that make everything about themselves and every other human being on earth. Greg, what am I one of those people? You are not one of the people who makes it about yourself. I wanted to hear that's what we're getting the corporate jug We're gonna get to that and say that the last thing we do.

I where do I go? I think Steve Smith being Steve Smith in every situation of his life is delightful and we can maybe we'll talk about that about with Riveron. But he was given Riveron as much grief the He's funny. He's a lot of times in sports were like that. Guy's funny, like Steve Smith is legit funny, has great timing, has great comebacks right after the bat like I am such a fan. He dropped some bombs and it's the timing he the way he would suddenly unfurl an a

bomb on the speaker. He's unique because I think we see a lot of athletes and he's only a couple of years out of the game. When there are a couple of years out of the game, they're reluctant to speak their minds, they're reluctant to be themselves. And he

seems like he's a hundred Steve smithe all the time. Mark, all right, hang with me for one second, because one thing this has been, you know, the third or fourth time we've gone to this, and a lot of the similar beats Um, which that would lead me to sometimes tune out a little bit when it's the same stuff

is last year. But it was about UM in my mind twelve hours ago that I was in a car up on Sunset Boulevard Um after leaving yesterday's event with Brad pitt, a young Gwyneth Paltrow and Leonardo DiCaprio, and we were in a stolen police car. And then suddenly, about fourteen seconds later, I was in a massive lake in a sprawling wilderness. The lake filled with milk, and I wanted to swim to shore, but all along the shoreline were hundreds of kittens licking the milk, and I

just didn't know where to find my opening. And then I woke up and realized this was a dream that I had, and I wanted to share it with everyone that I knew. But I was told yesterday by HR that we are not allowed to comment on dreams that we have in the nighttime space ever again to anyone we work with. And it is quite disturbing to me. And is that does not see that seemed like something I'm not allowed to share it with my friends. That's unfair because we should all be able to hear that.

What why it's a good rule is that creeps will use the dream cover to get creepy. I know, but this is simply about you're just milk old lady, can I can? I can still tell you about that um takeaway. Obviously a lot of talk about the Raiders move in to Las Vegas that came up, and and sports gambling and all that. I learned that former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagley Boo refused to even fly over Las Vegas. Do you believe that story to be apocryphal or ridiculous? I

don't know. Can you imagine that can because and if if you're not connecting the dots that he was so against the idea of professional football and sports gambling that he didn't even want to be in the air range of the mecca of gambling. But did he ask for the flight plan like when he was flying coast to coast? I am curious about that was like a Howard Hugh But um, NFL networks Omar Ruiz, Remember Sean Casey, your boy with the red the mayor. Well, that's what Ruiz is.

Amongst the talent, the guy is um bipartisan. He could work, he could work both sides of the aisle. And he's a He's a big star in the world of politics. I think if he wants to be. And then my last takeaway is, um, you know, that's a long event.

It was the first day was essentially eight thirty until six thirties sitting in a an auditorium, and there are lulls not all the presentations land and one prominent network face during one of the presentations sent me what I approximate to be a three word text message explaining the nineteen two film Et as a meditation on faith. So I'm just gonna read you this was. I am not joking. This was sent to me. Okay, this wasn't Mark. That sentence was not Mark. It is a prominent television fixture

on pretty quickly one of my favorite movies of all times. ET, allow me to explain why, seeing as I have plenty of effing time right now. The movie is a religious allegory, which Spielberg has denied, but who's the kidding e t is eases. I'll spare you the details for now, but would be more than happy to share later anyway. Et says the letter B when he sees it on Sesame Street on TV and Gertie replies, you said be good. The little bastard then uses that line when he leaves

and tells Gertie be good. Some fake ass alien that doesn't exist breaks it down. Minus all the religious that other people used to weaponize their faith against others. It's great. So when you said be smart, I guess I said that or whatever. When that lady was going on for hours, it reminded me of e T. Same with this guy right now, wrap it up, fiend. Wow, it's like the review. Do you believe I need to hear that again? Um? But I'm more like hovering around who possibly sent it?

I think I nailed it. That's correct. I guess the same thing Greg did. That's correct. I I do have to um two more, just quick ones. Number one. Uh, most people they don't mind if you talk about gambling. But women over the age of fifty five done do it? Don't They're gonna hate you. Um, so sorry to all the older ladies out there whenever we've mentioned yeah, white

women specifically. And then finally, if you're coming off the stage you just talked about HR or anything like that, don't do a fist bump with the next person that's coming up. I don't know, I just I just it makes me feel awkward. And it's just a tough moment in these these settings. I mean, it's even worse when that's the the high five and fifth bump. Get confused and you got the half and half sloppy one, which

I saw that in one instance as well. West Um, Now we throw it to you, and feel free to throw in another thought before you get to it. But we want to hear the official two thousand nineteen Corporo jargon. I'll say most of my thoughts for the river run section coming up in the future. But two am. We're basically there for about an hour on the first day, and I wrote down, wait, who sent the memo to

avoid Corpo buzzwords this year? It was obvious that somebody has gotten to these people and told them not to. Now I did catch them using weird words as verbs, which I delighted me to no end. When somebody had three times first somebody said, well, what if this team is I D eighteen on that G eighteen and we also got we'll offline that conversation. That's great, let's offline this. I've got this one written down. That wasn't it a great?

A great example though, of someone making it all about themselves, taking out a total personal vendetta in front of forty It's a beautiful thing. So my favorite quote of the first day was we sound like dinosaurs even saying this but there's so much more beyond the linear space that sounds like a crazy guy that runs a cult that whereas Red Sneakers, you know, the whole group might Yeah, I heard linear space a few times and I'm still not sure what they mean by that. That it doesn't

matter what it means, it's just it sounds good. What else? And then really, this was like leading off the game with back to back. Homer's one of one of my favorite people in the newsroom area. Unleashed this in one breath. If we can put a button on this and point to a north Star too, cor Fo jargons and mad lives like hit out of the park right there. But I love North Star so much. Yeah, and I think that's about it. Like I said, I think somebody got

to these people. I know, uh my boy Kingsley at one point said this is a strange kabuki dance, which I know is in Corto jargon. That's that's a point to uh Japanese culture. I think there's been a real push to your point in someone spoken in some meetings somewhere that we were not invited to and never will be about let's look real, transparent and genuine to these people, but then suddenly they slipped back into the old habits,

and that's where the jargon starts to pop forth. Yeah, I think they just you know, a lot of above the tree tops which no, I think somebody got to him. I think maybe a secretary pushed something onto a desk and said, these people said this in a podcast, then you gotta change your message this year. All right, good stuff, excellent, well done everyone, including you America, Thank you absolutely. Um. All right, that's it for today. Erica always sound like

a hostage. I don't know, I don't know. All right, So that's it for this week's show. Mark, You're going on vacation, Yes, family vacation, visiting my parents and other people in New Hampshire next week. Nice and not one of those uh staying in l a and walking in the alleyways as while carrying a carolac book. Not one of those. Not unless I alone missed the plane. We'll enjoy yourself in New Hampshire, which is in New England,

which means a lot to you, America. Yeah, I'm from New Hampshire originally you're from Massachusetts, and they are very distinctly different places. I don't know, all right, we'll be back on Monday. We will hit the river on stuff. Um mark, if you have any thoughts you want to offload, take it offline with me and we'll make sure they get into the show. I think it's a good one. Yes, we will send for a while and then I will do that. But yeah, let's not get two above the

tree tops here. We will be back Monday, so make sure you check it out. Thank you to everyone, and um that's it. Stan Hands is signing off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, the Old Boss and Ricky Hollywood Behind the Glass until Monday is a long day pull side bull side, bull side, bull side, bull side, bull side, bull side bull