OBJ to Rams, Cam back to Panthers and Week 10 Preview

tell a story. But the facts were all over the place, all over the place. Do you rick you do you have anything from that? Do you have anything? I got too? That really stood out? So this first one we start with a nice compliment, right, so here we go, Okay, look at dan Zeus's rankings and make your opinions on off Does that do you? How often do you lean on dan Zeus? Well? Look, I mean dan Zeus again, you said it. Unfortunately we've tried to keep it a secret,

but you blew the top off it. You know, he scribed his scribe is a stone tablet and his pen is a lightning. That was good. That was really nice. That was beautiful. That was really nice, and then McAfee followed it up with okay, like does Dan get a lot of s H I T in the comments? Like because what you do? And so this is what Money had to say. But yeah, he gets he gets absolutely wrapped in. Look, why does the commissioner make thirty eight million bucks a year because he suffers the slings and

arrows for the thirty two owners? Why does Dan make probably somewhere between seventy and eighty five grands an arrow? That was really meat money? He's an asked like him though, Um, yeah, but I know he had said he went on this long story about like how he came up with the zeuser nickname is said that bothers my dad or so I was just like, money, what where are we coming from with this stuff? If he fabricated you know what

happened to Brian Williams MSNBC. He lost the chair to halt. Yeah, like, well, so have you have you talked to money? If you're so, this is just a storyteller. The stories you know, sometimes true, I don't need to be true. Yes, anyway, that was that was cool though McAfee's a fan, and um, that'd be great to get McFee on this show. I bet he would be awesome. Um all right, now we got a big show coming up. This is the week ten preview. It's also, by the way, Veterans Day, and that's important.

And I know you boys, it's proud Americans like you know, you know ball like you know. For instance, the strong safety of the Houston Texans is Justin Reid. He's the pre safety Eric Murray. I knew that, didn't have to look it up. But do you know a little quiz here? Boys? The six major branches of the U. S. Military. Ricky hit me up a little dings both boys, Let's see what you got. We've got the Marines. Boom, that's one we've you want to go, Greg, you go for it.

You got the Army, got it, You've got the Coast Guard, got it. You've got to You've got the Air Force, got it, You've got the Navy, got it. And I believe you've got the Merchant Marines. Okay, uh no, no, but that's great, Greg, I had all those five. What's after that? There's there's a new one that that's a little controver. Yeah, the space clactic individuals, right, came in

in December two thousand ninety A little bit controversial. Some people saw it as a vanity branch of a certain I think it's you could pose leader look that some people. But those are the branches calling like a free or strong safety that's controversial in these days. Is there really any difference? I don't know. Good go to our lads dot com and you tell me it's nice to see you.

UM kind of making nice with the armed forces. After the Marines dropped our television show sponsorship, which was really we they loved watching as we had a lot of great Suddenly it was gone. They had been are I think they were, as a group our biggest fans during the you know, the lockdown in the Corona time. UM, huddled up watching everything that we do. And uh yes, I I don't. I don't hold it against the Marines. I don't think it's every good idea to hold things

against the Marines. I do have. Both my grandfather's were m active in the military and World War Two and the Korean War, and my brother in law, Staff Sergeant Tanner Bates with the Old Guard at Fort Myers, also did multiple tours of duty in Afghanistan. That dude is a hero. I love Tanner. I think we're listening, but my grandparents as well in World War Two, and Tanner

has other talents. We hung out with him during the Super Bowl week and I would just say it's not you can't put him in a military boxing Tanner and my brother still to this day the only Super Bowl guests that when we finished the Super Bowl taping at what three am and got back in the stadium, they were still ripping it at the t g I Fridays in the Minneapolis Hilton where we were staying. I mean that they were set apart as guests. I would for

multiple reasons. All right, let's get into the business of today. We're gonna go through all the week ten action. Tonight the old Zeus sir nickname I came up with, UM will be recapping Thursday night football Ravens and Dolphins. Check that out. I got a special guest that will be joining us that is connected to the Miami football team. We have the Bears, Bengals, Giants, and Texans on by. We're gonna get into all of it, but let's start with the big news that came down this morning. Thursday

Morning Cam Newton's back with the Panthers. I mean, this is wild. He has agreed to a deal with Carolina. UM and the deal, pending a physical at this time, is worth up to ten million for the remainder remainder of the season, including four and a half million guaranteed

and a one and a half million roster bonus. And uh, listen, this is the face of the Panthers, the most famous Panther ever, the former number one overall pick, the former m v P took him to a Super bowlsheit of dope on that bumble, But we're not going to dwell on that. But ultimately, Greg, isn't this been dwelling on it for six years? I know, but you gotta get on the ground. Um. Isn't this ultimately, Greg? And maybe this is the right move. Sam Donald's hurt with a

busted shoulder. Um, kind of an indictment of the entire situation in Caroline a little bit. How are we back to cam uh, just two years after you kind of kissed them off and said we'll be better without you because they've made terrible decisions. I don't think Teddy was a truly terrible decision. I don't think so either, but they moved off him. Giving him a second year guaranteed was was not a great idea, especially if you were going to get off them to downgrade significantly to Sam Donald.

Because it's funny. If you put Teddy with this team in this defense, they're probably like a fringe playoff team, like that would have been enough. And I think they look at this defense that they now, which is really good, and they think, let's try to win games. I've seen people say, what's the point of signing Cam Newton now, Like you're not going anywhere. He's just gonna maybe hurt your draft picks. Like, if I'm gonna be involved in a sporting activity, how about we try to win the

games that were playing. He's clearly an upgrade on Sam Darnald I've never seen I've only seen p J. Walker start one game. He's very likely a big upgrade on p J. Walker. So let Walker start this week. Uh see what happens. It's fun it, maybe it's worth it, even for the social media content alone. I mean they're going that. It feels driven by by that to some degree. I mean, this team is kind of freaking me out at this point because this was a playoff team. In

my book, I thought they would be. I mean, I was going a little bit yes, but but I think from a large walker and darn I really think that's the micro but from a macro angle, this is a front office slash coaching staff slash ownership group that gave the Jets six round pick and a second in four four Donald, who was a total risk to begin with, and one of the biggest moves that David Tepper, a powerful owner, made when he when he showed up, was basically to say, we are moving on from Cam Newton

and it's just super odd that he's back in the building. A little bit awkward, you think for Cam too, But at the same time Cam couldn't find a job, so Cam said yeah. But also like these are the same people that kicked out the door. Tepper wasn't the owner when Cam was a star there, Rule wasn't the coach, and they said, we are moving on to a new era of Panther's football. You're not good enough anymore. We're gonna find Teddy Bridgewater. He'll be better than you. Oh no, no,

we're gonna find Sam Donald. He'll be better than you. We're gonna try to trade for Matthew Stafford, he'd be better than and all that stuff has fallen through and now you've got Cam. So it's still a band aid. Though, let's look at it. Let's let's be honest. They are going to go all out next year again looking for a quarterback, and I think they're gonna either it's a we don't we don't know anything about the draft at this stage, especially this room. But like, this is not

to be a great quarterback draft class. But I would be stunned if the Panthers don't make a hardcore move for either Deshaun Watson or somebody else, because I think this has become an embarrassing situation for the organizam. Absolutely, I have to look at what players they passed on in the draft at the quarterback position. They supposedly love Macs eight games though, and it'll be seven. I guess

that camp like that's a long time. You know, you're not promised anything in this world that they're looking for a seven seed. They're looking to have some fun. I think Cam Newton fits pretty well into what matt Rule does getting rid of the ball quickly. It's gonna be a lot of short stuff used his athleticism. I thought he looked better and the reports were better for what it's worth this offseason and in the preseason then he

did a year ago. I think Bill Belichick absolutely gave him a big endorsement behind the scenes, uh to Matt Rule, and I think that probably made made some difference in Matt Rule. Who got vaccinated? Oh yeah, that was good. Uh, let's hear from Rule real quick on why they made this move. My jobs to try to win, right our our fans aren't paying money to watch us try to win in two years. That being said, you're also trying

to build a super Bowl caliber team. So it's this, it's this balancing act of doing what's right long term will also trying to win at the same time, and many times those are the same thing. So that's what he said. We're trying to get better this year. But everybody knows that Cam is not their quarterback of the future, unless which would be really funny if he plays lights he gets in the lineup next week or whatever plays lights out and then they give him an extension. That

would be amazing. Don't do that, all right, let's uh, we're gonna get to the Panthers a little bit later, they're playing the Cards. Uh this week they won Cardinals best team in football. But let's start with the primetime games. The Kansas City chief Chiefs at Las Vegas Raiders Sunday Night football at Llegiance Stadium in Vegas, and um, you know,

this feels like another test. I like all these like the Chiefs, they're always in prime time, or they've got Tony Romo involved, or you know, they're everything that they're trying to figure out is happening in front of the world, it seems like. And now here's another big test. Mark. This is not an easy game. Vegas plays well at home. They've had success in prime time this season against other

good teams. Uh. And the Chiefs very much still, even with their defense being better lately, are trying to figure things out and it's tough to do in the middle of November. Yeah, I kind of just feel like we're never going to come to grips with what the Chiefs are this season. And I have become on the flip side, just fascinated with the journey of Derek Carr, someone that highly annoyed me for most of his career. I've just never been into the experience the same the way that

you have Dan. But if they can prevent the typical Raiders swoon with Pisaccia's bump, then uh, don't say it like that, well disrespectful. I mean, it's the Baccy bump. Okay, well you've said I like that. I like that, But I wasn't trying to be well, that's how I speak. That's just how I speak. But I think if you're a Kansas City though, I mean, part of it was. It wasn't just Patrick Mahomes. It's the defense was such a mess in the last couple of games, Like especially

last week. I thought, you're getting pass rush, you're getting you're getting pressure on the quarterback, and they've improved a little bit on that side of the ball, and that helps. I don't I just I see them as an average middle of the road team. They get Clyde Edwards, a layer back that they've said he's looked great in practice. I think that matters a lot for them to get him back. Well will they use him though, Like, will they take advantage of what they do best, which at

this point is run blocking. Like it's so funny that we spent the whole offseason talking about their offensive line. Can they solve it? And then that's all they were focused on. Don't worry about anything else. Let's just worry about the offensive line. The offensive line looks great, like Creed Humphrey is one of the best draft picks in

the league. They're they're all run blocking well. Orlando Brown other than that one game against Myles Garrett's been fine and it's a big mashing group, and yet they don't really use them that way. Like will Andy Reid actually run at the Raiders, because that is to me, how you attack the Raiders. Let me ask you, like, the one person that's received zero critique during this Kansas City

swoon autumn is Andy Reid. Do you do you think that Andy Reid should get a little bit more what's happened because they've been stubborn and they just haven't been able to figure it out. I mean, maybe it's just their players aren't playing as well. You know what worried me about last week's game was when Reid talked about the last drive and last throw really from Mahomes and he was like, that was a vintage throw and drive from Kelsey Mahomes in Tyreek Kill. It's like, who are

we talking about that? You need to be saying it's a vintage drive. This guy's twenty five and is one of the greatest players and then like young players in NFL history, and we're having to say we're getting vintage drive. Teams changed though all the time. They were like a top five team in terms of yards per play in the first month and they've been almost at the bottom

in the last month, so they could change again. It is stunning that we're Patrick Mahomes is now at the point where he's having to answer questions about his playing style and if he's still gonna takes shots down field and be the guy he was. I don't think we know who they are because they've been so different even

within this season. I think it's the biggest surprise of the year, the Chiefs having so much trouble moving the ball and being explosive on the raider side of things, so you know they're coming off a loss against the Giants, just such a listen. The gruten thing was one situation, the Henry Ruggs tragedy, that was a whole other thing that was dropped in the lap of this team and going on the road to face the Giants, I kind of just say, Okay, let's see where they're at now.

They're back home. Uh, they have de Sean Jackson on the team. I like this quote, by the way, after Deshan Jackson got unhappy in l A. It's really not about myself at this point. I'm I'm not asking to get the ball a hundred times. I'm not asking to play a percent. Whatever the role is that fits, just let me play it to the best of my ability. So the Raids. The Raiders have Jackson in this Ruggs position as their downfield threat. We'll see if that makes

a difference. I like that Darren Waller was back in the mix and a more profound way against the Giants. It was a disappointing game for their offense, but I thought they've gotten away from Walton Waller strangely this year. Like his first game of the season, they targeted him nineteen times, which was extreme. That crazy win over Baltimore,

I thought it was fitting. I mean, and then you're thinking, this guy's gonna break every record for tight ends and he's kind of been off the radar for them, and but he wasn't on Sunday eleven targets seven nine two against the Giants. Keep Waller involved. He's your best offensive players. They've they've dnked and dunk the last two weeks out of nowhere, car under six average at the target after he was bombed away the whole year. So I hope that's not for good. They did score thirty five a

game in two games against the Chiefs last year. I kind of liked the Raiders in this game. If I had to take um their offensive line, I thoughts played

a little better. But but the Rugs thing, it's hard to talk about, but it's so significant, not just because yeah, they this guy's life is is forever changed, and the and the woman that he killed forever change, but like he's gonna get his like he's going to jail, like his life as he thought it was his over and all these people on the team know that and they're gonna play through that. But just from like what he meant to them on the field, he was really significant.

He was exactly what they wanted him to be this year. He was playing great. He was close to prime de Sean Jackson, which was like what they hoped for out of him. I think that's lost a little because you can't replace that speed. They Brian Edwards was a little bit of a mess trying to go into that role last week, and and that that part of the equation I think is significant that you're not you're not replacing him either as a player, and that does change who

they are. All right, Let's move on to Monday night football. The Los Angeles Rams, coming off that humbling loss to the Gravers, their name and great branding. Yeah, head to Santa Clara, great news. Anybody that wants to get a w head to the San Francisco forty Niners home stadium to face the forty Niners. This the Niners last stand. And for the Shanna heads out, the Kyle heads out there, the Shannahan heads, the shan stands, Shannis stands. Nice. Um, that's a that's a mean kind of like like oh

really okay, I mean a good one. Good job mark for the Shanni stands out there. This is a big one because if the Rams come into your building and embarrass you and drop you to three and six, uh, and you you look as bad as you did last week when Arizona played its backups and beat you in your building. You're gonna hear. I'm not saying he's on the hot seat Kyle Shanahan, but it it starts to

exit the realm of impossible. To me, if if this thing really takes a turn and that could happen in primetime on Monday Night, I'm with you, I don't know what hot seat would mean, except I think that the shots could be fired. I don't. I don't think there's any scenario. I think the afterwon. Look what happened before Kyle Shanahan was there. They had a series of one

year coaches who totally failed. I think that they I think he's safe, but I would say that we are now at a point where like the think pieces on Kyle Shanahan have turned into ripe and open critique of a number of things they've done. I think if you look at the DeForest Buckner trade that didn't really work out, they went and got Javon kin Law who had a knee injured, knee issues coming into the league, and it is out with knee injuries right now. Like who are

the leaders on this team? Like that? Who who is holding anyone accountable? And I we we don't have an eye in on some of that stuff. But I'm just looking around the Niners roster and wondering what that's about. And I think it starts also, and it's sometimes just this simple. You had a master plan at quarterback. It is mid November, and it looks like no plan. It

just looks like there's an absence of a plan. And I get that they wanted to They've been real about wanting to just use Jimmy g as long as they can, But I don't know what that tells the rest of your team either. I think that they're just a discombobulated mess, and they're getting a RAMS team that was totally out muscled, out physical and beaten up by the Titans last week. A Titans team that had like a hundred under two

hund yards on offense. It wasn't so much the Rams defense, but that was I wonder if you're the Rams, because you can afford a loss here and there, a wake up call to some degree, and it's not going to happen two weeks in a row. I thought you were about to lock it up there? Am I allowed to lock it up? There's a lot of there's a lot of games that are not lucky. This week while locking up the Rams. Wow the Shanistan wait till you were

until I asked if well I like that one? Because the other thing is the Niners have lost eleven of twelve home games, all changes on Monday night because I'm gonna no, I'm not going to but that is notable that you want to talk about the most shocking things the Kansas City Chiefs offense being earthbound Cessler locking up against Shanahan on the road on Monday night in November. I never thought i'd see the thing you have to turn with evil Sometimes you and I are a top

the lock stand. You've got to get sinister. You're not alone either, are yuh? Wait? Hello heroes, let's Phil again this week, and we were going to set the Westley brothers lock situation straight. It goes like this. Nick sends out a group text to the brothers and we throw out suggestions and then Nick pretty much does whatever the hell he wants. After year, we haven't used one of Eddie's locks all season. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, there isn't

Eddie Westley. Lots of time, don't even though who we're gonna lock. And to listen to the pod that being said, they agree with me this week and we are locking the Rams over the forty niners. They won't lose two in a row. Shout out to Phil from Australia who sent the swag and let her to Ricky. Classy moved from down Under until next time he'd the call nice. He thought, I'm a good company you are. I like

the pick. I do think that you can make the case at least that this is like the last thing Kyle Shannon has, which is a little bit of a mastery over Sean McVeigh. They've killed them the last two years. They want and they've pushed them around. I think they've stafford but fair enough right, but they've partly done it because they're so big upfront. And you asked, like, where are the leaders on this team for San Francisco. I think it's supposed to be on defense, and that's gotten

lost in the shuffle. Their mediocre on defense right now. Fred Warner, big big time player, not having a great year. Nick Bosa should be one of their leaders. Good but not great year. Eric Armstead one of the highest paid players on the team. They're so banged up at cornerback that that's where you just think the Rams are just gonna have so many mismatches and this is the time

to beat them. But when I've watched these two teams play in the past, it's kind of been like the big, tough, physical team against a lighter weight offensive line in the Rams, and sometimes that's worked. That's worked out pretty well for

the forty Niners. It like did for the time. Jordan Rod was gonna say, she just tweeted that I will say, after a couple of conversations today, I'm getting a strong sense that the Rams are very much in play for OH b J. Nothing certain yet, obviously, but they're in this. There there's another little nugget to that She Sean McVeigh about OH b J, and she tweeted that. She said that he had the biggest grin when responding, and he basically said, I'm focused on the Niners less as in

less sneed. The GM is always doing work behind the scenes. So like, here's what I've learned from the O b J sweep steaks that he doesn't care who he talks to. I mean, whoever their representative is, We'll talk to everyone. It's the spray method. It's like on Contra when you've got the spray machine gun. There's about fifteen different reporters all saying a ton of different teams. And here's the other part that I can I I'm it's a prediction.

But he's not getting good money. No one's offering him a good contract. That's why he's still a free agent three days into it. Like he's if he got an offer that he wanted, it would have taken it two days ago. Can hear him though, versus you're hearing the Saints. You're gonna go to the Saints for the rest of the season. Like this kind of fits, That's all I'd say. That would be so beautiful. That would be so beautiful.

If he barked his way out of Cleveland, so you don't want to play for Baker and then he plays for Trevor So I mean, I means Hill, that's not happening. He's gonna play somewhere with a big time quarterback. I might go up and talk with him if he winds up with the Rams ten feet from our work lass, right, Greg, I'll indulge your hyperbole. You're saying that the Niners finished three and fourteen this year with losses to Jacksonville and Houston, like Kyle Shanahan is. I think he would stay safe.

Just knowing the history of Jed York, their owner, how much he buys into Kyle Shanahan, maybe John Lynch like maybe things could change or they take away certain power. I think he is in it to win it and would give him that one. How about this, Let's say Trey Lance a week from now is the start of the rest of the season and he's a disaster and they go three and thirteen and you've given up everything. This is like the worst POSSI not scenario. But even then,

I think they've got a chance. They're not going three and fourteen, But that Trey Lance now is the only thing that's keeping his job security, and that's gives him a year. I think Jimmy's played his best two games of the season in a row, and I think that's what's complicated uh bench in him. But I think if they lost this game, that would be there too complicated. I'm just saying, let's take a break and then get to the draft. All right, here we go. It's the draft.

And by the way, we mentioned the lock standings. Greggy Mark and Dan atop the standings at seven and two, the Westling Brothers at six and three, the Listeners five and for Greggy at three and six. Hurting, Ricky Uh sacrificed herself, fell in the old grenade, locked out of the Panthers last week lockoff win for the Zeus or

she falls to two and six. She wasn't allowed to play one week because Greg was the patriarchy that I know, But if you look at their two records, that seems like it might have been the next level move by Greg because she could have been tied with him. My my locks right now are like that season for the Cowboys after they won back to back titles and then they got the White House, which they called just it was basically some house they partied in, did a lot

of drugs and they called it the White House. And that that's that's what's happening to you, I guess I I'm just saying the some championships to dirt. Good thing there's no drug testing. Um, all right, let's get to the draft. Greg, you have the first pick, and I could jump you one last time this season. I'm not doing it here though, just letting you know I can I have that I could and I could take kind of drapes over everything. Greg does that power, and I

could take um the Browns Patriots. I would welcome to you, but I'm not going to I want Seahawks, Packers. I want the Narrative Bowl. I want Aaron Rodgers returning from the COVID. Let's we'll assume everyone's assuming that he is uh he. He can't get eligible until Saturday, so we won't know for sure. But I want Aaron Rodgers, perhaps one last time in this really underrated NFC rivalry of the last decade, one of the defining ones they've They've

had some classic games. It's like the two maybe best quarterbacks in the NFC, along with Breeze, or the last second Russ is returning, Rogers is back. Maybe they're maybe they're just gonna trade teams in the off season, like Rogers for Wilson, who says no, I would do it from both sides if if if Russell Wilson made it, the Packers would do it in a second, right. I guess the Seahawks only would if if Russell Wilson was making their lives so uncomfortable and saying like he won't return.

Mark Remember when we were getting absolutely destroyed this summer for even insinuating that Aaron Rodgers might be a little bit of a pain in the ass, right, because if it's not that, it's we're getting killed for something else. But that was, that was I'm not saying that we should take a victory lap for that, but I'm just saying everyone now acting surprised that he's a little bit

of a pain in the ass. I think we have a good read on people dan in general, and in that case, we were, you know, targets locked, and yet that was not a victory lap. But you know, but don't you don't you think like Russell Wilson is so mad right now that he is like the B or C story of this game. He has been chronic lean his UH recovery from injury day by day. They set it up at a way it was so easy to see what he was gonna be out from like eight

to ten weeks. They have used the word miraculous repeatedly UH to talk about his recovery. He's been like doing like if the Seahawks even wanted to like raise any question of whether he was playing this week, he didn't allow it because like he had videos on from like the room where he gets cleared, and uh. I love that, and I love the fact that the Packers have owned the Seahawks in this rivalry in Lambeau. Obviously you remember that NFC Championship game, which is one of the most

painful Packers losses of all time. But in general, the Packers have been better here and they've been very resourceful. To me, this is just like a classic regular like Week ten regular season game, because that would have been my pick if you didn't pick it. I think it's uh because beyond the um Aaron Rodgers drama, beyond the fact that Russell Wilson's back, this makes sense. Like Mark, for instance, you stuck a fork in the Seahawks, I don't agree with that. I think Seattle's got a run

in them. I think they'll be sparked by the turn to Wilson. I think their defense was always gonna probably get better, uh, and they had a nice get right game into there by and I expect the Seattle Seahawks to make a run, so that sets up well for this to be a really fun game to watch. I think I'm gonna go with Green Bay, but I think

this is a field goal game. I think you're missing something about that fork that I stuck in Seattle, that the tenants of that deal where that I would send a large, a large s a financial contribution to the Seattle based my little pony, uh group, which I just kind of want to do that, So I did something rash. Well, you are the vice president of that. I don't belong to the board. I'm not part of the group. I just I like that. My motive was, you know, not

what you think they were. They were competitive with with Gino, which I mean coming off and we're still talking about a point and you just played three games where they could have gone three and o with their backup quarterback. They have figured out things on defense. The idea that this defense was a total tire fire feels like it's old news now. The seventh best defense on third down, they've allowed twenty points to the Saints and Jaguars. They

have They did this last year a little bit. And I just get that feeling that that Jamal Adams interception it's coming at some point, it's coming. Stout talking about Jamal Adams fair enough. Uh. The problem with Russell Wilson is, like you saying he overplayed his hand. He should have failed it. Um, it just was a little bit too like obvious from the jump that this is how it's gonna play. I don't know how he could have done a better job shielding it, but I don't know. I

liked I like the quote he had. He had he got the pin taken out of the finger, washed it down, thankfully, took a picture of it and on Instagram, no more pin. Time to win. The first thing I thought I saw it is I was funny. I want to know what the pin looks like before it's been washed. It's got to be quite a sight. You have some we're just some stuff going on. What you want to look at that pen? You want to you want the gore? I want to see what it really saying. He knows what

they look like? Well, yeah, here he is. Graver is on top of the world lately. I'm not the only person that thinks that I must for the most dynamic man. And we just we haven't been really piecing it together untill now. What he heard his hand, Doctor Graver, what do you know about this? I broke my wrists in half when I was thirteen, and my parents are nostalgic people and keep things. And we still have the pins from that, and I could tell you exactly what they

look like. They aren't pretty, No, they're pretty gross. Let's get together after the show and just well, this is before Instagram or maybe in the early stages. Did you have some type of no more pin time to win posting after it came out? I wish I should have, but no, alright, good, all right, let's move on to the second pick. I'm annoyed, Greg, but I respect the game. The reason why I thought I was getting it because I thought you were going to go get Saints at Titans,

but you didn't. But I will graver keep the headset on because we've got a touch base with you. Kevin Bayer, he really he went out of his way and he did the athlete thing where he kinda negged you a little bit. But you put out some film study of his tremendous gameplay of late and he came back and what did he right exactly with the quote retweet He gave me a this is actually pretty accurate. That's about

as good as the Cats. That's as good from for for somebody that you never played the game for him to say this is actually pretty accurate. That's good. Check out Graverman on Twitter at Titans Film Room. See how we're plugged in on you, buddy. Um I would So the Titans are seven and two. I'm not even gonna mess around here. I'm locking up the Titans this week,

Graver because I just love where they're at. I feel like the Saints are in a vulnerable spot right now where they need a lot of things to go right behind center Alvin Kamara is banged up, Uh, they're going on the road. That this Tennessee team is playing with such purpose and such confidence, and that I feel like New Orleans is catching them at the wrong time. Where do you come down on this? I kind of agree.

I think it's gonna be a tougher game because New Orleans defense is good and the Titans didn't even try to throw downfield last week because the old line was banged up. But if you get Taylor the one back, you get Nate Davis back on the offensive line, they could be in a good spot. I really think this Titans d line needs a nickname because they're just dominating up front. And the one that I like most that we've seen on Twitter is the Tennessee tickle monsters? Can

we make this a thing? Tennessee? Why are they the tickle monsters? Because they just like harass you to the point where you like want them to get off you and you're pushing them away or well, let's workshop it. That's a good start. That's a good starting point. Do you think that if you were to tweet that at them and they'd say, this is you know, you're gonna get pro Kevin Byard responses to that. It feels a

little cuddly. It does. But like purple people Eaters was a big name, and that's kind of yeah, but they're eating They're like legit, they're eating people. That's yeah, like that you can playoff Titans. It's also a very big defensive line. I mean, I know every defensive line is big, but they're especially big just their size and girth. So

Jeffrey Simmons girth um. So the Titans had um in Week nine, They had twenty eight points, but those those interceptions by Stafford really obviously played a big role in that they had a hundred total yards um only sixteen first downs season lows across the board. So what do you see mark with the Titans here, do you have concerns about them moving the ball? Uh? In this spot against the good New Orleans defense played a good Rams defense, but yes, because it was an aberration to some degree

from what you'd expect from them on that side. Though, I I still believe that another week without Derrick Henry will help, you know, Ryan Tannehill and friends sort through some of their issues. But the Saints are third overall in defensive hit it we got all right, you guys. This from Ian Rapp Report. Free agent wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. Is currently finalizing a deal with the Rams, the Rams Los Angeles Rams. I mean, how how is

their salary cap? And like what you're maybe what you're saying is right, Greg that he just it's not gonna be big money and they still find a way to squeeze him in. So he now joins a wide di shever group as Cooper cup who's had all World production, Robert Woods, Van Jefferson, Deshan Jackson left obviously, uh, and now Odell Beckham fits in kind of is he going to get the Is he gonna get the volume that he needs to stay happy? That would be my obvious question.

I guess you wouldn't go there unless uh you believed it, you know, like like unless you we're okay with that. It's it's something else for it suddenly puts Matthew Stafford into an interesting place because there's gonna be NonStop microscope action on how that, how that plays out. I hope it doesn't change any of the dynamic between Stafford and Cooper Cup and this offense was working really well, So it's an X factor, I'm not I think it's of

the landing spots they mentioned. I think it's a good one for him to have be on a team that could be there'll be a playing team. We're not going to be like crazy, crazy productive. Like if he could match what Robert Woods has been doing, which is like on pace for a thousand yards season, to me, that would be a win that you add that to the mix, because right Robert Robert Woods probably lose a little, Higbee loses a little, but there's only so many yards to

go around. And uh, I think he's going there to show that, you know, to to to go win and to get the shine of being from the rams maybe a little bit like like the Bucks Wide receivers did a good job last year. I think being selfless and playing for a team and seeing their numbers go to chapter had at first not I I'm sorry that alright Ian had the report as well, so that is that's another They're a fun team, the Rams. Whether you like him or hate him, or I think that this is

a good strategy ultimately or not. They're just like we're going to collect as many assets as possible, all these guys and and see if it all comes together. That's interesting, all right. And and I bet he's getting paid almost nothing, which is crazy that he I don't think he will find making four million for nothing for the right. Any decision he made was about not just to be on one team this season for the end of the year, that he wants to have a long term relationship potentially

with Rams. I love it though, because I don't know, it's just a It adds a lot of like value I think to watching the Rams and everything, and it's just like, go for it, just like make make our lives more interesting. I don't care if it blow like if it blows up, it's not gonna harm me either way. It's interesting copy because you saw the last guy that was a star veteran of the past, Deshan Jackson. He said, I can't take it. I need to have a front

facing role at this offense, and he walked. Odell has already done that once. That's an interesting place for him. We have replayed us to Sean Jackson with Odell Beckham. That's good front office, right, and just think of like the mismatches are outrageous in terms of the route running, Like Odell can still run routes, whether they were the routes Baker was expecting all the time. Like those are three guys, cup Woods and O'Dell that can get open guys.

It is life should be pretty easy now C plus performance. He'll be on his best behavior now, I can you know, I can see how it's gonna work out. What should I be doing running around Mark? You need another reason to U quietly root against I just locked up the rams so you could change probably not playing this, No, I'm not. I'm that again. You have to be cut through it with the locks. All right, Let's well, I'm gonna go Cleveland and New England, the team that Odell left. Greg.

I I thought you might take this game for me. I think if you're the Cleveland Browns, what they did last weekgainst the Bengals was about as good a result as you could possibly have cooked up in your imagination because you've got a good version of Baker Mayfield. The deep ball with Donovan Peoples, Jones worked, the secondary, which

has been getting healthier, was all over the place. I mean, the first couple of drives against Cincinnati was like, Okay, maybe they're gonna give up six hundred yards passing in this game. But they had money turnovers left and right, and they dominated a team that everyone was squawking about a couple of weeks ago. But I don't view that as a signature win. That New England Patriots in New England, Kevin Stefanski versus Bill Belichick, that would be a signature win.

And I am kind of monitoring obviously, because we have Nick Chubb who is dealing with corona and he has vaccinated, so he has a chance to play at this point. Still, Alex Van Pelt said there was some hope that could still happen if he gets two negative tests. But across the way, ramondre Stevenson and Damian Harris are both dealing with concussions and did not practice on Thursday. So that's another banged up backfield from a team that wants to

run the ball a ton, right. I want to know if those two guys are healthy because I love this running back room that the Patriots have, and Stevenson adds a lot of juice and they're not fun to watch. They're not gonna be the same without him, especially because that's what they want to do so much. And I look at these two teams, it's just mirrors. Yeah. I just think the Browns and the Patriots are so similar

in so many ways. They both have a pass rush that that's been great, Like bar More jude On are getting after it up front right now. For the Patriots. The Browns obviously are extremely talented there. They run. They want to stop the run. But the Browns are better at everything. Like the Browns are better at running, they're better at rushing the passer. Uh. They both have coaches who I think are trying to turn it back to

Cleveland like Bill Belichick used to do. And to me, like I've been surprised to see the Patriots become such a trendy team. You are not the only person that put them in the Super Bowl on that I know, at least Jim Trotter because he said it on NFL Network and I've seen everyone's expecting and they could, but I still think they've got a long way to go. Like they are playing there, They've changed who they are defensively and it's work. They've played zone a lot lately.

But mac Jones is coming off two pretty slow games, and I am curious to see if like this slump mac Jones is on it is going to continue. That's when I come down with the Patriots. Um, I think they are a good team, but whether or not they are anything more than a fringe playoff team or a one and done playoff team, Well, now goes back to does mac Jones develop and mature at a faster rate um than they expect? And I just think the last two games for him have been you know, well two

games it was pretty brutal. Uh last week, I don't know. Sometimes he doesn't have that awareness in the pocket and he just gets creamed pressured a lot, and he does get speeding him up in terms of what he wants to do. So that's I think that's the recipe for a Brown's win. Here that Myles, Garrett and Clowney and the rest of that line get after it and really make things miserable and harass Jones into making some mistakes.

Because I think this is the type of game. I don't think there's gonna be a lot of points in this game. I think the team that makes the fewest mistakes is gonna probably come out top. This feels like a type game. I would probably pick the Browns if Chubb was playing, and maybe pick the Patriots if he's out. It should be a fun one. I took the Browns. I took the Browns Chubb or not. But I agree with everything that you said in terms of it being

the defense of low scoring. The thing with the Patriots that they've been been a little sloppier than people I think realize, just in terms of penalties and mental errors they have. They haven't put it up together a totally complete game. Yet. You could say that about Cleveland too. I would just say the next thing, after what Baker did last week, is what's been missing this this year beyond the signature win. You're down by six points with a minute thirty seconds to go, You're on your twelve

yard line. He marches in the entire field. Who do you pay? I pick Cleveland, I mean, even without Chubb. I think they're gonna win this game. If they don't, they're a hot mess. At five and five about mess, but I'll tell you about hot messes. Um. The consistency is the last thing you want to see from the Browns if they can start, and I got a feeling there might. They're about to get hot, Mark and about at the end of this month, they're going to be seen as the best team in the a f C.

I have feeling they're about to get hot. Now, that doesn't mean they're gonna win the Super Bowl because the thing, and especially with the quarterback, it's kind of like this, so you need it to be like this when January hits. Uh podcast audience, I'm pointing my hand upward into this guy. It's striking, but it feels like we might be headed there. For the Browns, I feel like they're in a good spot.

Let's see. How's why I'm locking up the Browns all right, Ricky looking to get Oh no, that's exactly what That's exactly what I'm doing. I think she's doing the reverse Jinx thing that she did the other week exactly what I'm doing. I mean, the Psychological Master Pats have sixteen takeaways. They're they're the fourth most in the NFL. Baker with the shoulder this defense, I don't think I'm not trusting Mac Jones in this offense, but this defense could be

an issue. So the Browns are gonna take it. I'm sorry, Mark, Yeah, I've lost has to go now to uh the other side, because Ricky just locked your team up. She's gone down like black Magic Avenue and I don't enjoy. All right, take a break, Markets, Well, you've got to be strategic and pick your We're gonna do another breaking news strip in the middle of this what's what's happening? To take it personal stuff? Beckham signing seems qualifies, don't you Okay,

I won't do that again. Then no, you should because you did your job as it sah, it's not about it doesn't like to be interrupted. Yeah, no, I'm really sorry. Mark, It's okay. I'm really sorry. I've taken a soft track by complaining about that. Mark never gets interrupted on our show, so he's just not used to it. That's what it is. You jarred me, but not only did it was a breaking news that interrupted Mark. It was about Odell Beckham, who Mark hates more than Hitler. So you put all

these things together, it was a rough one. There might have been a slight exaggeration in that last statement by Dan, but I'm gonna go Minnesota at Chargers four oh five pm. If you're on the East Coast one oh five pm. If you're here on the West Coast, minutes from us, are you I don't know. I love The Vikings. To me are the most bizarre team in the league. And I've already mentioned that. I feel for their fan base. Kirk Cousins is on pace to throw thirty two touchdowns

in four interceptions. They no team in the league has allowed fewer sacks on offense or generated more on defense. Like these are the recipes to a team that should be, if not dominant. It's certainly five and three and not three and five. How are they three and five? And there is the Dalvin Cook situation. It sounds like he's gonna play, but we can get into that. That is a thorny off the field scenario. The Vikings Dalvin Cook.

We haven't talked about this yet on the show. Um allegedly abused a former girlfriend, causing a concussion during an altercation at his home last year. This was originally reported by the Star Tribune and Minneapolis. This is cited from a lawsuit, and the newspaper reported that the woman filed a lawsuit in Dakota County accusing him of assault, battery, and false imprison and meant. Cook's attorney said his client. He said that Cook was assaulted by the woman after

she broke into his residence. Uh And, in a statement on Tuesday night, said that she'd later tried to extort him of millions of dollars. So it's a he said, she said, situation. Really ugly details, um ugly, ugly, upsetting photos connected to um this situation. And I think it's something to keep an eye on how the NFL is going to handle or not handle the situation. And we never there never seems to be a clear path to

how the NFL does this type of stuff. But for them, for the time being, Davil Cook the most important player. And we can talk about Kirk Cousins, and we can talk about Justin Jefferson, but ultimately it is David Cook that's their best, most important player. His availability is certainly in doubt in the long term. Well, Mike Zimmer was asked if it was a distraction and he said, not really, so I don't I don't know what kind of answer

that was. The reporting on this was was so bad with Schefter, you know, putting out the news, trying to get ahead of the story before it happened in from the agents perspective came out of nowhere that he was the victim of that Cook was the victim of domestic abuse and extortion, and and there's pending linegation with no

other context involved. And it got me thinking of just what we were talking about with the Deshaun Watson reporting like that, It was almost exactly what we were talking about, that it was not presenting contact and he he has since apologized for it, he admitted. Schefter admitted that he did a bad job of journalism and didn't didn't try to present both sides, which means he got he got called out for it, not just publicly, but I'm sure

by his boss. Is it's it's it's troubling, and it's it's a team that I I think it might break at some point. I know they've been really competitive every game is is close, and it's often against really good teams and they barely lose. I think this is a week where or they might lose by more than three points, you know. I I look at their defense from a week ago, and they played ninety eight snaps and they've lost two of their best players in Peterson and Hunter.

Ninety snaps is insane, that's crazy. Now they gotta go across country, uh to l a. Not only did they play nineties STAPs, five or six of their starters played all of them, like Everson Griffin, who like was gonna retire at some point, and they brought him back in to come save the day like he he was playing eighty eight snap. I think it's a tough spot. You mentioned the sacks that Cousins, you know, not taking. To me,

that's part of the problem. He his whole point of existence at this point seems to be to avoid to take a sack, and that killed him in the Ravens game, I thought where he got rid of the ball too quickly, and they knew when they blitzed them late that he was just going to dump it off and they could rally to the ball. These are all a lot of reasons, you know, the the snaps being the number one why I'm gonna lock up the old bolts, locking up the balls.

Here's the problem. You're trying to instill logic upon a Vikings team that is illogical by its very nature. And that's why although I like the Chargers, don't I don't trust the Chargers yet. They haven't been great at home yet. Uh in the at Sofi Stadium, um D would it's surprised what it will be. There's gonna be thirty thousand Vikings fans in that building at least. Would it surprise you of all the Minnesota Vikings go there and play great.

It wouldn't, because they've shown that's that's what their d n A. They're very unpredictable. But like when you study the games, you see why their record is what it is, uh, compared to what their numbers are. Like Kirk Cousins is having a great statistical season, but they're way too hot and cold on offense. So they'll get the counting numbers in the top of the game, or maybe a late drive, or they'll get pick up some yards in overtime, But then when you look at the game, they're just large

swaths of a game on offense where they disappear. There's a lot of checking down, there's a lot of throws short of the sticks, more than you would think in recent weeks, and they're running game. It's been hot and cold and now you have Cook in the what's going on with him? Uh? Their defense in addition to playing ninety eight snaps gave up five yards uh last week. So it's a coin flip like which version of the

Vikings show up. But since it doesn't make sense for them to play lights out on Sunday on the road, that's why they will. And I mean I think they win the game. I do think though, Like Dalvin Cook situation, Alexander Madison, I mean, Dan Mark and Greg could run on this Chargers run defense. It's they almost invite you too. So you know they got away from Dalvin Cook. They got away from Justin Jefferson last week. Like stick with it, show us something consistency to to fourteen point leads against

the Ravens. How many people are going to do this? With the Ravens climbing back in the cults, the Vikings come out, All right, let's move on. You took the Seahawk, your monsters. You guys took all the late games that I wanted, So I will go and grab the Bills at the Jets. Um all right, the Bills, so they have the thing. Now they have that thing. I wanted to reach out to Baldy and I wanted him to give us like a what is the too high safety shell that is scaring the Bills supposedly, just like it's

messed up that the Chiefs. What is this defensive scheme that is causing havoc upon the unstoppable teams of a year ago? And and the layman's terms like description of what the issue is here is you're taking away the downfield strikes by having more discipline in the back end to look out for guys going downfield. And the way to beat it is with a run game. So how do the Bills get their run game cooking? Because if they could do that, uh with Singletary and or Moss,

then you would think everything gets back to normal. But if they go to the meadow ends and we know the Jets are another team that's a little jackal and hide this season, and they have another game where the offense can't get going, God forbid they lose the game. We're gonna be really trying to scratch your heads figure out who's gonna win this a f C. Who's gonna win the a f C East. This is a very important game, uh for the Bills, and you wouldn't think that,

you would think they're gonna roll over the Jets. And maybe they will, but I don't know. There's a little bit of juice to this game. It's it's one of the first times where Sean McDermott I think like the timeline of the Bills has been so pristine with everyone's development. He basically said, we thought we'd be farther along with this run game. It's been one part of their offen. Zack Moss is a concussion right now he's dealing with.

They just have not been balanced on that front. And you look at the way that Jets were embarrassed defensively by the Colts and the Patriots. It was almost the exact same The Colts took the Patriots playbook with all these like kind of wham blocks that like power running teams can do where they invite the defensive line to go upfield and like that's Sala's m Oh that's you know,

that's where he comes from. It's like these these interior don't even like worry about the gaps, just like get penetration. And they both of those power sort of offensive lines. You know, we're synchronized enough to take advantage of it. Run on the outside and just like you know, make them look bad. They embarrassed. The Bills don't really have that they you know, that's why teams like the Patriots and the Browns in theory, want to be able to do everything so that you can adjust to the game

plan to your opponent. Like the Bills don't really have that in their arsenal in terms of their running game. I'm not particularly worried about them, but their offensive line last week was the reason they lost. I didn't even think Josh Allen played that bad of a game at quarterback for the Bills, despite all I mean, he made some bad decisions later, I think it was as the worst quarterback. He he went crazy at the very it was just football outsiders and there's aren't necessarily great those

just numbers. But he kind of at the end just started throwing stuff against the wall. But I thought he played pretty well. His offensive line was a joke, I mean dominated and they were injured. On the other side, Mike White will start for the Jets at least one more game, and Salo left the door open that you know he could stay there. Um, they're playing the old

will start the boy when he's healthy. But if Mike White plays well in this game, Zack Wilson's not playing because this the one thing Buffalo still has cooking here is a great defense there, the number one overall defense, uh pretty much across the board by a number of you know, defensive metrics. So while their offense is still trying to figure things out, the defense has been something you could count on. They they gave up three field goals and lost last week in Jacksonville, gave up eleven

the week before against Miami. So they're there, They're they should be okay. But if Mike White uh lights them up here, that would be a lot of fun. By the way Mike White spoke today, play that, Ricky, why do you think you were under the radar for so long? I couldn't tell you. I mean, that's that's definitely the scouting departments and across the league and what their their interpretation of me is and then I've told you guys, counting as times, I have confidence in myself. So if

you asked me, I should have been a first overall pick. Yeah, baby, yeah, first overall pick. Well, he played like a two weeks ago. I'll see what he does against Buffalo. Let's just say in another world he lit it up for the rest of the season and became like the dude, like, what where does that leave you? Dan? With Zach Wilson and the rest of it. I don't care about anything. If I have a quarterback that's awesome. You know, it would be quite an insane story. If Mike White holds this

job for the rest of the year. Uh, maybe unprecedented. Someone find me something similar to like to this in NFL history, where like a number two pick would lose his job midway to this guy who's never played before. But he's gonna have to keep stacking it. They're gonna want to look at Wilson if White struggles. I do think there's a little bit of awkwardness though that like Josh Johnson and White have eight touchdowns in in two

games and and Wilson had four. Like Josh Johnson threw the ball great against the colts to right and he's back to the practice squad. Flacco is now the backup. So there's something strange about it, but it's probably not the Wilson to be like will Pison. They wanted him to be ready, he wasn't ready. He was struggling, and they got bailed out here because they planned poorly by not having a safety net behind the boy. And now Mike White appears out of nowhere, and again he's played

one credit. So it would have if the if Mike White ended up starting the rest of the season and they either I don't think they're gonna listen, let's see how Buffalo goes first. But I don't want to get ahead of ourselves. If Zach Wilson is there, locked and loaded starter next year and he they tried to start him with the season as the starter didn't work out, they let him learn and get a little bit more maturity. I don't think that's absurd. It's just the process was

a little funky. But that's the jets Um all right. Up next is Greg Oh, Yeah, that's what I say. When I'm not ready. No, I'm gonna do something a little different. I'm gonna take another four o'clock game, and that's gonna be Panthers Cardinals. Uh. Who knows could be Cult McCoy versus p J. Walker In another world that could have been Kyler Murray versus Cam Newton. It's probably gonna be Kyler Murray versus p J. Walker. We actually, Matt Rule has confirmed that p J Walker will get

this one start. He did start uh in Week seventeen last year looked okay, certainly better than he looked in his mop up duties two times last year. It's asking a lot for p J Walker to go up against the number two defense in the NFL in terms of d v O way uh and the way that they've controlled the line of scrimmage and expect him to do much. But Matt Rule has a guy who's known for his creativity,

like Joe Brady. Let's see it. You got a week to get something going with p J. Walker, who is a short, fast, big armed quarterback who revived his career with the XFL. He's been on the fringes of the NFL for five years. Like this is an opportunity for him. But man, it's an uphill battle to have to play the Cardinals in like you're one start of the road. They are banged up, Arizona is They've got issues all over the place, Like we'll see Chase Edmonds is not

going to be in there. Ron Deal Moore's dealing with a concussion and a neck injury. Are we sure Kyler's play It seems very question It's very questionable. He says he feels a lot better, but it's another one. We might not know till the end of the week. A J. Green is back New Copkins. We don't know. It is a mirror. It's not a miracle, but it's so impressive that they played that well last week with that many

people missing. It's not a miracle. When Colt McColl McCoy just says, put that on hand, like your son like a little miracle, double miracle. Cults are little miracles. I feel like, well, what did Cynthia Friedland called little pony? That's sort of what it means. It is a little Sometimes when I miss uh small cult Sessler. We were

just at his birthday party. That wasn't But when I when I haven't seen him in a while, beautiful young boy, you know, I just I just drive nearby and I see his poster that his pre school has hanging on multiple um corners in my town. It's cold Sessler's picture. No lawyer goes to that school. Didn't ask for permissioners. He's smiling, and I think he's he's I have I don't have facts on this, but actually, and I believe

enrollment's gone. I think that we actually, I think they did seek permission when you we signed some sort of waiver which said you can you can do anything with our child's technically our boy now that it was in the contract, so he's on loan to you at this point. I always pointed out to my kids in the back seat and they're just like, what who what who? I was like, Oh, it's called Sessler. I'm excited. Um, all right, let's move on, Greg. It's snakes to you, all right.

Oh wait, I just want to say, um, I want to see Christian McCaffrey back another week. They're gonna, I mean, you want to talk about he's always been the centerpiece of their offense, but now when you have p J. Walker as the quarterback, they're probably gonna be a little bit predictable on an obscene level. On obscene level in this game and with Cam Newton. I think they'll be

rather predictable when he shows up. I don't know. Well, I think they want to be super run heavy and they're going to continue that Cam with do We never saw Cam and McCaffrey together, did we? Yeah? We did, right, we did, Yeah we did. What if p J. Walker has like a Mike White situation, you know, comes and he's just on the sideline, but he's been paid a ton of money to be there. Great if the Jets

cut Flack when he's signed with the band. Also Donald, we didn't even mention Sam Donald's name in all of this. I guess we're hurt. We're assuming, We're assuming his career in Caroline is over. I mean that's more likely than not. I would say he's out for four to six weeks, but at this point that feels like if you want to sell tickets, his career needs to hope. He's not checking like mentions or Twitter today anytime. It's it's sad and it's just the way his career has worked out.

Like everybody, I'm one of them, that was like, just getting him a better situation, he'll be better. And that was the case for three weeks, which made it even more funky when it all fell apart. I think his ceiling now where we stand now in November one, is like Colt McCoy's career, like hang around as a backup, keep getting chances because of when he was drafted. I'm not saying to start where people are just like I'm saying as a backup, he'll He'll be in the NFL

for a decade plus, but not a start. A good dude, he's a hard worker. He does have draft pedigree, so I think he'll get a backup job and probably get pretty good backup money next year. But I don't think he's going into any camp with a chance of start. And got a Super Bowl ring and like you know, right next to Tom Brady on the float, you know that could be Sam Darnaldy Sam Donald. All right, let's take a break. Spack you Greg. I'm torn here? Why

am I so torn? I'll go I'll take the Falcons Cowboys. Uh. Watch Matt Ryan another week live the new Matt Ryan playing great. He kind of is though. His running ability, his movement, I'm not kidding. He's moving better. There's no question. He shaked. He shook to Mario Davis out of his shoes two times last week. His running was a factor in that game, not just you know, rushing yards. He doesn't have a ton of those, although it's been surprising

when he does. But his movement in the pocket is awesome, and they're offensive line is terrible, and I I really do believe he's moving better than he used to. And I think he's fitting well with Arthur Smith. I think Arthur smith reputation as a good coach for quarterbacks uh is burying out and they're playing against the Cowboys defense that will be without Randy Gregory suffered an injury in practice. That's too bad. I think he was having a Pro

Bowl season. So that's a big loss for their defense, coming right coming off of their best or their worst game of the year the Cowboys defense. My my favorite thing that happened this week was, you know, coming out of that Denver wipe out of Dallas, where we're just week you're left with like one of these so called heavy is getting destroyed and having to contemplate what it means. But Jerry Jones basically saying that Denver didn't do anything

we weren't expecting. We anticipated it. I went over it carefully with Mike McCarthy before the game. What they came out doing we anticipated completely. We just didn't anticipate them having that kind of success, and they stayed in it really,

I mean, Dak said that too. Maybe they were just like in their feelings about getting something about that doesn't kind of buy it that Denver just flew around in that game on defense in a way that just I haven't you haven't seen this year, And I think it was just like they were way more ready to play, like it's a physical game and sometimes one team is just like ready to knock you out. Tyrone Smith being

out I think really made a difference. Though. That got a little spooked by the lack of protection there, and we don't know if he'll be he'll be back on the left. Luke in the sense that it's not gonna they're not gonna get handled by anyone all the rest of me. They're not the greatest team ever, but I

fully expect them to get healthy in this game. There's a fluke Offensively, I totally agree it's gonna take way more than one game to because this is the game in the outside the parameters of our game, like I feel super confident about Dallas being humbled and saying, all right, we're gonna whoop up on the Falcons defense, which is not good. Um, we'll see what happens there. Any other thoughts on this ball game? Treyvon Diggs Kyle Pitts might

be a fun matchup. Digs got week some penalties that has not been so outside of his turnover prowess, Like there's been a couple of games. Keep throwing at him. He's so aggressive. The Falcons have such a small margin fair they kind of need Pits and Patterson to be big every single game. That's about to ask um, all right, I am up next, I will grab the Eagles at Broncos. Now, I say that last week was a fluke. I mean

it more from the perspective of the Cowboys. I think just a lot of things worked against him there and they kind of got stunned. Uh. The Broncos, I thought they played so well that they command a little bit more attention. And Greg you you know, I think you kind of bailed on the team at t h a L. But you should have. You should have hung in there

because I think that's a little bit frisky. It's crazy you know a three and oh start will really help you out, because they started three and oh against bum teams and then they ran into incredible turbulence. Obviously lost four in a row. But then when you kind of right the ship and they won their last two games, all said a bang, we're half game out of first place in the a f C West. There right there. Von Miller obviously out the door, but they didn't miss

him on Sunday. And I think I'll say this for Teddy greg and he's been a divisive figure on the show. He's not a guy that's going to take you to the Promised Land and be a superstar offense. But if if Angio continues to coach up this defense and they continue to gain traction, Teddy's the right quarterback to get you an enough points to win a bunch of close games. And all of a sudden, like whoa the Brown the Broncos are playing on wild Card weekend. That's not out

of the picture for me. Yeah, he's coming off one of the best games of his career. I thought against Das he threw the ball beautifully, and playing against this Eagles defense is a dream for for accurate quarterbacks. Five different quarterbacks have gone over and that's like what Teddy does best is kind of be the point guard distributor. They get no back and just throw a bunch of seven eight yard throws that maybe doesn't get you too excited, but I'm with you. I think it should be easy

for them to move the ball. And I just think about how frustrating must be to be an Eagles defender. They just play so passively. Well they're they're verbalizing it right like in just like they're not getting any pressure really up front in these games where the quarterbacks get rid of the ball quickly and you're just Fletcher Cox and Barnett like snap after snap, not getting anywhere because teams are just picking you apart. It's gotta be tough.

It's the it's the kind of defensive philosophy that always seems to get players grumbling, where like, you know, if you're Fletcher Cox is just saying, I want to be aggressive, you want to go after Like the coordinator in their press conferences always like, we're gonna be aggressive, but Jonathan Gannon and Philly is like, and we're gonna like lay back and let you go on really long drives and

hope we can make them. I mean, the results suggest that you wouldn't, you would try something else potentially totally whipped on this, by the way, Sirianni, when the fan threw the flowers at him, I forgot about that. We even played the quote about like he wanted his team to be in a pretty little flower. That's where he didn't respond like like it. I didn't think of that. But something that's remember the thing about the flowers, that ridiculous hype speech that he gave his team. That's wild.

You're making me feel bad about giving up on these Broncos. I still made that they're they're really injured. Patrick's Artan got her bowls. They like even last week they took three or four more new injury. But I think about west Um a lot with these Broncos. He always had a soft spot for Fongio. He's he kind of believed, do you guys, remember like in these Broncos teams the last a couple of years, he's stuck with the Flacco team originally and thought that team Um was gonna be good.

I thought about him a lot too, because he he thought these Broncos would get there eventually, and he always was the guy defending the Titans too. You know, he was always like kind of on the Titans corner. And here's the Titans having having their great year, and we talked about it on Sunday Night, Greag. They have a good running game. They have a nice one to punch there with the rookie and Melvin Gordon. So you have that going on. You got Teddy who steady steady Teddy?

I'm all right, Tim Patrick making a ton of plays in that game. Hasn't been the offense. If the defense at this good, then the Cowboys game was not the fluke as we described already said to you, I can I say the Cowboys they'll be fine. But they did that to the Cowboys. I know they did, so it was a fluke for the Cowboys. They're not in trouble. But I do think the Broncos could actually build on this. This is such a big game though, because now if you lay an egg at home against the Eagles, you

kind of give back all that moment. Anything could happen in this game. You could tell me any score combination, either team blowing the other one out, and I would wholeheartedly, Bullie. I would ask if like John Elway and people, all these other people actually want Fonio to save his job and be the coach after the season. If you are also trying to pitch a landing spot to Aaron Rodgers, there's a disconnect. I think that's always happy he's still

getting a check. He lost his job, assend and he got a promotion while losing your job and get the check. That's I just I sense changes ahead to some degree that that's the first team they've beaten with a winning record. I'm not ready to like completely melt into a puddle of enthusiasm yet over the whole thing. I know, I know, Listen, there's a disconnect in your football following that any team that's not gonna win the Super Bowl isn't work. No, No,

that's what I'm doing. I want a T shirt that just says like I will not melt into a puddle of it, just like you know, let's see it a couple of weeks in orrow. That's how the sport works. I understand that, but they really there are pieces here to go on a run, and that that division is not nearly what we thought it was going to be early in the year than I do right now. I like it. Let's say let's see all right, let's say that's the Oh, Mark, you have the last pick of

the draft. I will go um, because I'm pairing this against the Browns Patriots game Detroit at Pittsburgh that I took too late games that there is not a whole lot going on there. Yeah, I mean it's not like, yeah, you don't have the choices aren't too hot. I like Pittsburgh though you have I do. Um, they have my respect, I mean they always do. But like they're a tough watch, but they've won four in a row. I think they just simply a team that handles their business. And I'm

not trying to go down this road. I don't know what their ultimate fortunes would be because they seem to be a good but not great teams figuring themselves out. They have the Chargers, Bengals and Ravens after this Lions game, so we're gonna find out real fast what they are. But their offensive line has grown. Um, I think guys that you're adding to the mix, like a Pat Friarmouth

who you know. Markaboli there, like longtime beat writer, said that he kind of compared him to Antonio Brown, and I was like, what, And it's because of the trust that Big Ben has shown in him, and you can kind of see that he's willing to throw it to him and the incredible things seem to happen when they do. And Big Bed sort of said, we're finding our ways to win. I don't know if I trust this team to do a whole lot more, but you're gonna handle

Detroit without too too many problems. Maybe no Chase Claypool though, which to me is almost certainly no Chase Claypool. And we don't know how much. I think that's a big loss. I think the Lions are kind of this every other week team. They either get a moral victory or the weeks that people actually believe in them, they stink. This feels like a moral victory game I have. I just am not believing in the Steelers in terms of like covering these big spreads. For instance, I didn't against the

Bears that ended up coming down to the wire. They're they're favored by nine or ten here. I hate that, Like I just like I feel like the Lions are gonna be in this game and they'll find a to lose, and the Steelers will find a way to win. And that's the same, right. The Steelers are the Steelers are the Steelers. They're at home, they're five and three, they're

on a winning streak. But there's nothing about the way that offense plays that tells me anything should be taken as a given that there should be a blowout win. They should win, though, because anybody has played the lines could be like a nice T. J. Watt defensive player of the year, like rack up three type of game. Yes, all right, let's go through the rest of the games here. The Jaguars start with the early games. Jaguars one pm, Eastern Pacific. This is Mark's team is in this game.

Jaguars two and six, Colts four and five. Colts have to win football games. They got the Jags in their building right now Jacksonville, of course, though Mark coming off a great inspired defensive effort in which they shut down the Bills offense held them to six points in a win. Yeah, I mean Colts thirty one points per game since Week four. I do I. I could fall for all sorts of things too, um and I'm not falling for the Jaguars, but there's a little thing about me after watching what

they did to the Bills. That makes me think could they operate as some sort of one of these berserker teams that you know, a couple of weeks from now, you don't really want to deal with them if Trevor Lawrence gets better and better. But it's the defense. I think the defense was so disruptive against it was a banged up Bills line that I just want to see this matchup because when you put heat on Carson Wentz, we've seen bad things happen. That said, the Colts are

the better coach team they've got. They've got a ground game that's on fire right now. James Robinson is still sideline for the Jaguars. We're not sure what's going on. And this Jaguars offense was two of thirteen on third down last week and had two eighteen yards of offense. So that truly was a nine to six game where it was something special happening for the other Josh Allen, right, I mean, first of all, good job of the berserker. That's a nice part of the Sessler brand. There are

teams like You've had it out. Yeah, every year there's Cesslor's got his berserker team. Not sure it's this we'll see that Jack's the offensive performance came out of nowhere. They've been terrible all year. The Colts have been very reliable and beating down like the lesser teams in the NFL. I mean, they beat down the Jets, they beat down the Texans like they've been good at that. And I would expect it to happen because Trevor Lawrence is making

fewer big plays. Since thereby do they have a touchdown? Since Thereby was thirty one six with a touchdown? I think it was, But either way, they've they've got fifteen points in two weeks, so the arrow is not even going up right now for Trevor Lawrence, which it would be nice to see. Not a berserker according to you. In other potential slaughter news, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers come off Thereby at six and two and head to FedEx

Field to face the Washington football team. So you have Tom Brady with an extra week to get healthy and prepare and practice, and now he gets to face the last ranked past defense in football slaughter and they're like annoyed. At least Bruce arians is. Maybe they're just looking for motivation. It's a long season, but he's really annoyed by the fact that people have said that Taylor Heinik like lit up their defense, and he's like, we didn't know Taylor

Heineke was gonna start that game. We thought out it was gonna be Alex Smith, Like if we had had a plan for Heineck, like, we would have destroyed them. So it's probably in their mind they need to find little ways to get up. And I think coming off of a bye, even without Antonio Brown and maybe Rob Gronkowski, they have great injury news, which is John Murphy Bunting is back and and Carlton Davis um at some point

it's gonna be back. Don't know if it's gonna be this week or not, but I I love that for them, and I think they're gonna solve some things. Chris Godwin and Mike Evans have quietly like been so good this year, especially Godwin, like you just to kind of expect it. Uh. They they are the reason that offense goes along with Brady like it's not the Antonio Brown and the Gronk

stuff sprinkled on the side. Washington is like regress from the last time these two teams, you know, faced each other, and I don't really trust them to do a thing. They haven't scored more than thirteen points since October. T Is that everything? I think it is one last thing in the that you met with that game. Well, yeah, one last thing, Gregg. I wanted to get your thoughts

on this. It's kind of a somber topic. But x NFL star Frank Gore to fight x NBA star Deron Williams in boxing match on Jake Paul Tommy Fury Undercard's it's a somber topic. I mean, I'm I'm concerned for his health certainly, but he's a competitor. I mean, I'll tell you where my money is going on that game if we were allowed to do such things on that match, rather think we are. No, we're not nothing. You can't you can't do anything. You can't you can't bet on anything.

If you work for the NFL. Well, I don't even know the rules because that's not something that interesting. Frank. God, Frank, I feel like I feel like most of us know that that rule that we're not. I don't know what you've been doing, Dan with your free time. Obviously, we do have to take like an hour long UM training session. You do have to take the training session. You don't have to pay attention to anything. Yes, that is you

could have multiple screens. Are absolutely fine. I'm a little worried. It's kind of like I want him to win this, you know match and then retire from boxing. It sounds like he's been training for this for years. He was doing it even as a player. You worry about Frank, I guess and drops a bomb like maybe he better clean it up. Darren Williams. Total disappointment with the Nets. What a terrible contract, Darren wins. This guy is not tough.

A lot taller Frank Core when I did my article on him, he couldn't have been I know he's listed at five nine. He could not have been taller than five seven or so. And and Williams he has an NBA. You have to we have our missive music, Ricky, because I just realized in this In the story, Frank Gore used a statement, Wow, I'm excited to be fighting on this card and can't wait to show the world what I've been working on. Boxing has me excited. And on

December eight, team expect fireworks with a slammer. I think he's gonna work on his statements a little bit sounds confident. One of the toughest NFL players of his generation, third in NFL history sixteen thousand rushing yards. I guess he's officially retired. You know. Between him and he was Larry Fitzgerald, we haven't actually gotten the I'm retired from either. Sometimes the NFL retires you, and for Frank appears that's would eventually happen. But the guy was what a run class

act guilt? You know what I'd really like. I want Frank or to do whatever he wants when to be happy. But he feels like a guy would be a great guy to coaching staff and maybe that's where he ends up in time. But if it makes him happy, I got to pay the heavy wit champion in the world. I don't know. I mean, I love Frank Gore so much. You know, you guys are welcome to come over that night because I'm buying some showtime. Oh yeah, I gotta I gotta watch Frank or if someone's got a good

stream for me one or the other. I don't like what Doron Williams's statement is. Combat sports have been a part of my life since my youngest days, before I was a basketball player. I was a wrestler. Since I've had the privilege of owning an mm A Jim and through that, I've trained in various martial various martial arts to stay active. Over the last year, I've been waiting for the right opportunity to translate my training into a professional debut. Oh, Frankie, I'm a little worried about. Duran

has been all over this thing. It could be. You know, I was as a kid. I remember we went over to some uh father and son's house with like eighty fathers and sons to watch Tyson Spinks and a guy was making like microwave popcorn and the fight was over before the popcorn was done. So I hope I wish for your sake, Greg, that it lasts longer. Classic Tyson Spinks. Well, you guys were like four years old, sucking on like oh I lolly pops. And I watched that fight as well.

It was like thirty seven seconds. Yeah, Darren Williams, I don't know. The Inconvenient Truth is scared by no. I mean, I don't know if I don't know if this site is the most accurate way to find out his name. Maybe just YouTube, and it's so many different alright, I don't know. I think that's alright. So we will be back, Okay, we will be back. We will be back on Saturday morning on NFL Network, the around the NFL broadcast. Two hours we go through the entire league, two minutes a team.

It's a lot of fun. Please check it out. You can get it over on the game you know the NFL game pass app in the UK. I think you could probably get it here two I'm game passed. I don't know, or check it out on NFL Network. Uh. And then we have our Sunday Flagship Show where we recap every game we just previewed here Sunday night, of course, and yes again Thursday night Raven Staffin's mini pod Zeuster

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