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NFL Couples Who Need A Divorce

Feb 13, 20201 hr 16 min
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All Connie Fox submissions can be sent to [email protected] ! A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler are joined by Colleen Wolfe to bring you all of the latest news around the NFL including the reinstating of Myles Garrett (10:07) , Andy Dalton trade rumors (17:45), and the future of Cam Newton. (28:30) The heroes then discuss NFL couples who need a divorce. (39:22)

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Be around with the NFL Podcast has stronger backs than Tiger Woods. Welcome to another edition I'll be around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis coming to you from a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Colleen Wolf, and Gregg Rosval. What is up? Men and women? Hey? Hey, what's up? Not bad? Yeah? I got nervous there. I'm like, what is it here? Do I step in? I've been here in a while. You're in his seat. You need to fulfill all of his roles. Stick. You nailed it,

I mean right out of the gate. You know. That's what I was hoping for. You need some big words, big words, some folks wisdom. I'm on it. Start get fired up at some point, start yelling about something. Okay, I can definitely do that at some point. Actually, you know what, some good life lessons. How long have we all known each other? Now? Six seven years? Something about that? Yeah, girl, friends, I've seen you annoyed. I've seen you angry, but I've

never heard you raise your voice. Yeah, but like but legitimately like angry, like yelling is very rich here. Now, if I had Gonzo next to me right now, and I said, Gonzo is that's something that happens, and he said, here was an American sports writer, was married NFL media broadcaster Colle Wolf John, who was a pisces, resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. Uh is it possible that John was, Oh, yeah, that's something that happens quite a bit. It takes a lot for me

to get to that level. But once once I get to that level, it's it's rough. I've learned though, I've learned to kind of like de escalate things because I don't like to get that. When's the last time he witnessed you in that state? I don't know, it's been a while. I mean I usually I usually yell about work and stuff like that. So I get home and that's when everybody, that's when the real night comes out. You don't seem like there's not a lot of stuff I get really angry about. Do you think John is

afraid of? You know what? That's the weirdest question ever. Hey, how about that little uh, Erica, the little game you did with us for Instagram where you asked us a bunch of questions and then Colleen said she would rather be famous than rich yep, And then I and then I immediately said, no, I want to take that back. I want to change my answer. I didn't think it through. I would rather be rich that but that just shows you're like gut feeling like that was Jo. But I

got nervous when you were asking me these questions. I'm not a good test tape. This is gonna be on the Instagram around the NFL handle. Yes, the TS Valentine's Day I already hated. I already want to sabotage somehow to leave my clip. Dan's clip is you know, as close to a horror movie ever gonna so just enjoy that. It was a little bit off putting even I have to say that, Uh, Colleen, great to have you here. I started watching All or Nothing the New Eagles season.

So far a little underwhelmed two and a half episodes in, but you have popped up a couple of times. Really well, yeah, and like the Thursday night football dais and whatnot. But I'm waiting for like a Connie somewhere on the scene. Uh, maybe a flashback to the Super Bowl parade and there's some Cardi b rapping going on. None of that yet, Okay, I haven't seen it yet. Either do you get royalties for I mean because I would say why is why? No cutaways to our show. We discussed the Eagles for

probably twenty five hours this season. No cutaways, nothing we haven't got all or nothing more like nothing. I know Mike Garfolo was angry too, because I don't think he made an appearance in it. So covered the whole in the big spot and speaking of Connie Fox being with us, um really on a whim. I decided last night to launch a new contest. It's the Connie Fox Theme Song Sweep State, where I'm calling upon all of you listeners out there to submit a thirty seconds or less theme

song jingle for Colleen and you know have you? This is a yeah, this is a real thing. I have set it up at Gmail, the A t N Podcast Gmail, send in your submissions and if um, if you if you're selected as the winner, all right, what do they get? There's plenty of stuff that you could win. Picture yourself on an island with the breeze with the one and only Colleen Wolf. I'm getting a vacation out of this,

seeing you my ties. Then of the context. Yes, and we'll put it on the Instagram we'll play it live and all five listeners of the A t N Podcast will hear it. The A t N Podcast at gmail dot com. Connie Fox theme song sweep steaks, Wow us, you'd be creative again again. Brevity is important here. Can we put a limit on maybe thirty seconds or less? I already said that that very qualification. Thirty seconds or less intro and uh the winner. I'm sure it will

become a staple of the show. Oh so you will become a part of the history of this show, and the history is indeed very rich. And Colleen will serve you drinks on an island. What made you think of this? I don't know. It just it just popped in my head when it was paying for the people to get to the island. All that stuff is a little fire festy. I'm not sure if any of that's happening, but one thing I could tell you is definitely happening Catalina Island.

Maybe is that you will be a part of the show and you'll get a shout out and maybe some maybe we could wrestle up some merch with a shadowy leak figure and Colleen and you the listener, and the composer will be tied together forever? Did you think about this when you guys ran into me in the airport in Miami? Was that was it? That morning you were stumbling around Indianapolis Airport you had missed your flight. Um,

you lost and disappointed to see me. Frankly, I still had my makeup on from the day before when I was doing the show, and you were just sort of like walking aim Leslie until you found Rob Ryan to have a have a drink. It was it was like I hadn't missed your flight at that point, the successful professional broadcaster version of the Walk of Shame. But you're in your show makeup, uh, and just wandering around a strange airport because you couldn't get to your initial flight.

How many times I told you they got to get to that was the first. That was the first flight I missed all year. And then I passed out on some like rappers shoulder on the plane on the way to some rapperami. Yeah, I mean who was the rapper coming? I don't know. He was talking about how he had to go to the studio. He was a very large person and I he was wearing a soft jacket and I was in a bad place. I down Kyleeen sleeping

on Rick Ross and she doesn't even know anyway. Connie Fox theme song Sweepsteaks The A t N Podcast at gmail. Send your submissions in there and we are off. Okay, here we go. Today's show. Valentine's Day is tomorrow. What a joke? I mean? Can we please with the Valentine's Day? We're all grown ups here handled it last night. That's the way to go. We went out for Valentine's Day last night to avoid the l a madness, the snarl smart and have a family coming into so there was

no way I could have checked that box. We don't even do the holiday. I don't even think we celebrate it. Maybe that's a little said, maybe neonnect kids do like go to the movies. You do nothing. I find it do nothing. Everyone says they want no, no, don't please, don't worry about it. But if you literally do nothing, I sometimes send some psychic reverb to that. Just to literally do nothing at all on Valentine's Day for your

significant other, nothing will be done for me. I'm saying the other she doesn't care, and I don't care, all right, and we're not going anywhere. Let's face it, I mean we're locked in. We're in a long term deal with no outs. Maybe check out Parasite. That seems like a good Valentine's anyway. With Valentine's Day upon us NFL couples who need a divorce ouch dark long term, long term commitment.

And before we do that, let's do some news. I'm Lakisha Westland and this is the beautiful, intelligent funny working in the sports today. Colleen what plays and gentlemen, Thank you everybody. Okay, I'll take it just torturing me when I come on turned into Do you like when Colleen Eric goes into the Newsy voice? Thank you everybody? Okay? Is that the one didn't you in Lakisha taping episode where it was decided to the lost episode of Too

Hot for Public Consumption? Yeah, it was a little too much, a little too loose. Yeah, we had to nix that. We've done that on the throwback episodes of Disappeared Market Too Many. Yeah. I don't actually blame myself for that lost episode. I know that was not definitely more on you guys have a lost episode. The throwback podcast is multiple lost episodes because the conceit of the show is to listen to us. It can drink and sometimes that has devastating effects. Brodcast this was cold play or no,

this was Counting Crows. It was August and everything after by the count of Crows. I did immense uh notes and homework, did all this preparation and couldn't have been proud of the episode. It will never be heard by a human. I mean we start seeing all so that probably lost. I mean back and classic and and shout out to Lakisha fans out there. No it songs, she's talking? Oh that one? God? Is that how you pronounce her name? Um? Shout out? Wait the but I don't only know the

girl part. I forgot about the guy part that I don't know where we talking about the same? Yeah? Are we talking? You'll cut this one out on that one? That's a woman singing? Is it? And then the other guy comes in like growling. Anyway, here we go, Oh, Lakisha show on cork checked it, check it out on YouTube. Great show and that that episode with Colleen has a assload of yous. So good job. All right, let's get into it. The NFL has reinstated Miles Garrett after an

indefinite suspension. Of course, the Brown's defensive end is back. This came shortly after Garrett met with Commissioner Roger Goodell. He had been indefinitely suspended by the NFL since Week ten for the incident against the Steelers on Thursday Night Football where he clocked Pittsburgh quarterback Mason Rudolph in the head with a helmet, obviously devastating uh set back for the Brown season. They lost arguably their best player, and

Garrett's reputation was upended. And Mark, now he's back, and you assume he'll be smart here and you'll never have to hear about anything like this again. But it does. It is another sordid chapter in Brown's history when you look back everything about Garrett, who who had blown up into a superstar and then it just all went away

and now he can move on. You were there calling it that game when it happened, and it just evolved into utter chaos, and there were no end to the hot takes coming out of that game, as there should have been. I my one take away, I never thought that he would be suspended going into next season. I think that there was This was a clean end of the year suspension, then you break it and you give a new chance. But if I had to pick one player on the Browns that this would not have happened to,

it would have been Myles Garrett. I know that even earlier in the year, on that Monday night game against the Jets, he had some moves that delved into I think ultra violence. He was I think he was pushed, right he has, But I but that this, this this event is just something I not I would never have Miles here at Also weeks before was in Cleveland at a dog park where a so called Brown's fan came up and just punched him through the window of his car.

Myles Garrett did nothing, no retaliation, and he's never been someone that you would peg. Is like the violent, dirty player. And that's what always threw me about this. And I think the brown season went off an absolute cliff from that point on if it was already heading in that direction. But you were there, I don't know. I took it to be one of those chaotic scenes of the of

the last ten years. It was for sure. I mean for us, we were on the field, we were just about to start bringing out the entire set for the TNF post game, and we were going over different storylines of things we wanted to talk about, and that was one game where I had taken notes of the entire game and I was like so proud of like how organized I was, and I was like, Oh, I can go in any direction right now. And then all of a sudden, we just everything broke out into complete chaos.

And it was on the other side of the field from where we were standing, and they weren't replaying it at all in the stadium, so we had no idea what was going on, and all we could hear were Joe Buck and Troy Aikman like, oh wow, look at that. We were like, what, look at what's happening right now?

It was complete and utter chaos, And like you said, when you think about Myles Garrett, it just seemed so out of character from the narrative that we had all all kind of heard about him before, how he was super thoughtful and he's in the poetry and he's super I don't know, introspective, and then to kind of have him have that melt down. I just feel like what he's done to his own reputation is a punishment of itself. That.

I mean, I don't think any punishment levied upon him would be greater than what he's done to his own reputation. I think this was done well. I think the NFL handled this well. I remember they when it happened, the pearl clutching afterwards, people saying you should be charged of the crime and thrown into jail, and it was all

like a little bit over the top. But at the end of the day, the six game suspension, a reputation that is essentially ruined, that he has to you know, work to get back, and the fine missing the game action it costs him over a million bucks, So don't do it again. And the lucky thing is he didn't, you know, nime for him and Mason very easily that that was another potential outcome if the swing had just been a little different or random, where it would have

been way more serious. Doesn't like thinking about nights like that where you were working, Colleen and in the season and it was crazy almost like now that we're a week and a half in the off season, it almost seems like it makes me shutter to like think about how just like like it's like you know, s h U D D E r like just like thinking about the madness of this season. It just feels so like I've let go of that. Uh and now it just feels it almost seems like a nightmare. I don't want

to think of it. Not a nightmare, but like revealing things right now. No, I've been can't like think back to the seat. You have to sort of trick yourself into not thinking about I've been trying to like d program myself for the past I don't know, week two weeks since after super Bowl. It feels like the those first couple of days afterwards, I felt like I should be doing all sorts of stuff, but there was nothing

to do. One thing that helped us from the you know, the madness of the super Bowl was observing of the game behind um soundproof class win knows where. I have no audible memory of the super Bowl at all. I don't know. I don't understand what room we were in. It made no sense to me, and I need to go back and watch it on television for even one second of memory. Well you have you could do that, not feeling compelled to. I haven't done it yet. Okay,

let's move on. The Bengals are willing to work with Andy Dalton on a trade with Cincinnati holding the number one pick in April's draft. By the way, night one of the draft, APay, whoa in Vegas? I don't know. We haven't been invited to Vegas that or invited to the draft UH in several years. I don't know. If

it happens there, there's talk about it. Um there's I think a battle between shadowy league figures and UH, the one that's in charge of the podcast department, I think is pushing for us to go, and there's some shadowy pushback. At least someone's battling for us. So let's let's make that happen. I think it's still close to you are You're so hyper connected, Connie that if this happens, I would I would be counting on you. And we need uh Mark's wife Simone, who shares the same birthday birth

year as me, also to be in town. You have to set up the club in the bottle service. I got you, I got you, I got connections. Now this is great anyway the draft is as just shaking your head, Why do you find it would be almost hypocritical to have like a club birthday party like Calvin Harris. I don't think no. I I was the one that was like, we should go to Vegas for your birthday even if we're not working the draft, like it's I think we should,

totally should. I was shaking my head at the fact that you think Colleen's gonna like hook it up because as soon as the party time comes around, she stops answering and then instagram stories herself on the I'm still upset. I mean, just take just take the hour, you know. Yeah, there was a yacht. There was a yacht. Yeah, it was involved. I had never been on a yacht. Yeah, at least you haven't filed this complaint on all social media platforms and now on microphone. Yeah it's I've seen

this multiple times. Yeah. Yeah. I was also a dinner that was set up for months advance. You know, it's try to improve yourself, put yourself in a better situation for next time. Follow the advice you weren't asking for. Uh, Bengals are gonna take Joe Burrow number one. I don't know anything about you know, how these draft boards are are heading, but that one feels like it's gonna happen. And that means Andy Dalton is out of a starting job.

He already lost his job once during the season last year. But here is uh the information we have here um rap sheet reported on NFL now. One thing that is very clear is how highly the Bengals organization thinks of Andy Dalton off the field, on the field, in the locker room, how he handled last year and everything. My understanding is, according to someone briefed of the team's plans, they're gonna work with Andy Dalton to facilitate a trade

att of Cincinnati when the time him is right. Greg we talked about it on our most recent show, that the Bears jump out as a team that would maybe

make sense or Dalton. He seems like a guy with his track record, his age, what he flashed um when given a chance down the stretch, that he has a chance to compete for a starting job or deserves that, right right, I don't think he deserves I don't think there's enough opportunities and I don't think he's anyone's first choice and there's not that many open spots that yeah, let's talk about that. Where could he go to to to be the only way that that he could be traded?

Because I don't think he's gonna be very many you know, teams. First choice is a place where he would be willing, like Ryan Tannehill, to take a big take a pay cut, and that way pick the place he's going and get it out of the way early. Now, Chicago, I think

that re established his value. Yeah, and Chicago I think could work for that if he kind of looked like Tannehill at Chicago and said that's a place where I could have some success if I get the job eventually, and that the trabisky could blow up, that that could make sense. But unless he's willing to take I think he's making thirteen or fourteen million. Now, I don't think anyone's gonna be like raising their hands to trade for

Andy Dalton like to kick off this offseason. But I guess like the seventh dominant, I we didn't need to see where all these other you know, we're gonna talk about them endlessly between now and March whatever. Where where Brady goes and you know the rest of these clowns, and you know, Dalton fits into the team that doesn't get any of these people. And it could be the Chargers, it could be it could be the I mean, like, if a team like the Raiders, you know Jake, Jake

Gruden loved Um, you know, Bucks makes some sense. It could be Jacksonville if they if they get rid of Nick Foles. You know, Jake Gruden's there, Jon Gruden's in Vegas. I think he could have options. But it gets tricky when it comes to a trade because the Tannehill thing was basically a dump. They got nothing for him, and he chose to take a pretty big pay cut. So I don't know if Dalton's gonna want to do that.

I'm just writing down teams that could be destinations, Chicago, Chargers, Jacksonville, Carolina, Tampa, Oakland, New England if Brady, if Brady one else where. I like, he's been linked to New England through people kind of just speculating. I checked it on that because I was like, people hit me up and apparently and no one's reported anything. I think Peter King threw it out as I would guess Andy Dalton would be one of the last people

that the Patriots would ever want. I feel like they are gonna want, you know, like a rookie or just stay. What's the point of colts to Perhaps that could work like that. There's all sorts of headlines that are like, well, the Bengals aren't gonna put Andy Dalton in a bad spot, like he's going to have a say and where he goes. But it's like, I mean, no, no disrespect, but like I mean any I feel like anywhere is a better

spot for him right now. He does kind of control because of the contract though, like assuming he could just say no, I'm not going to renegotiate to go to Jacksonville if he didn't want to go there for some reason, and then it wouldn't happen. He is due seventeen million dollars this season, so yeah, that's not happening unless he changes.

In other veteran quarterback news, a report from w d i v TV in Detroit red flag uh came out this week that Matthew Stafford was on the block in Detroit, And they came out about like a day after our last show where we raised it as just a fantasy. Uh. And the Lions obviously, uh, you know, they try to get in front of this because general manager Bob Quinn wrote in a text message to Dave Burkett of the

Detroit Free Press that the report is quote Falls. I said it that way because the text had two exclamation points, and that's the only way to read that, Like, how would here two exclamation points? One is a lot too. I would read that as a broadcaster. One false. I can't top that. That was false. It helps the look at it, Falls, Ricky. Sorry, the board so long, I gotta walk to the other end of it. I would say, go ahead, Falls, that's it. That's the winner. Someone's been

going newer improv classes. Okay, can I I'm gonna sorry this is you're still upset about this is the best people make decisions. Shut up this up. You're so annoying. Okay, listen. Connie pulled the best prank of ever on me. She and I were texting back and forth, we're going to take the same improv class, and then I was like, okay, here I go. I'm gonna pay the five dollars, I'm gonna sign up, I'm gonna sign up, blah blah blah, and then went radio silent and now I'm in this

improv class and she didn't sign up for it. You were going to take anyway? Also, and what's terrible relationship? I told her that you and I it's been four years since I took one oh one. I had to get special clear, and I was like, are you sure I should do? This is the day? This is the yeah, yeah, yeah, boah ball going back and forth, and then I'm like, here I go. And I literally sent four text like I'm I'm literally putting my credit card in. Here I go.

And I was signing on to make a sandwich. Your guy's friendship feels like a mine field, like I don't see any you know, But that's how that's how I show love, keeping people at a distance banking promises. Uh, but just so it's known and uh. Mike Florio p FT pointed this out in a post today. The reporter from w d I V and Detroit is Bernie Smile of Its real name, and uh, the Lines don't know Smile of Its. Bob Quinn and Matt Patricia don't know

Smile of Its. He's not a regular team, press conferences or locker room availability. He also didn't see comment from the Lines before publishing the story, which isn't to say that this is not don't know but you know, big Bernie. Maybe maybe not that this is a story to take seriously, but um, the Lions say, no, we're not looking to move on from Stafford. He's the top ten quarterback. So was this a Russian bought? Is what you're getting at.

I don't know they're coming, you know, after the reports so hard that you tend to believe them, but they also sort of have to because they can't get caught in a spot where you know, Stafford is upset. You know, his wife already commented on it and what you know what it was upset about it, so you have to

you know, put this rumor to bed. In Our reporters Ian Rappaport and Mike Gara follow also said very strongly, this is not going to happen, which you would tend to believe because just because of the cap implications, they would have a thirty two million dollars on their cap of dead money and actually their cap would go up, you know, they would have ten million dollars less in cap space just to get rid of him this year, and I don't think there's any way around that, so

that I like the idea. Like to me, it made some sense that if you, if you fell in love with Tah, you would do this, But financially, you know, maybe it wouldn't make sense. Well, so I automatically I did a sandwich wager with these guys in the last show when we were doing a quarterback carousel not a wheel, and suggested that Stafford could wind up with the Chargers. That is before I actually did the requisite homework homework of looking at that capit, which I've automatically lost that wager.

But I would ask this question, if the capit were much more manageable, would you buy that they would move on from Stafford, Because a lot of Lions fans are saying no, they're all it's like there's so much pressure on Patricia that they have to keep them the shirt. It's like, wait a minute, you can buy yourself tons of time as a new coach if you go get to uh or fill in the blank rookie and he shines.

I just think you're in a situation the number three pick where there might be two really great quarterbacks in this draft that you can't expect to be in more than once every other decade, and that of that you would have to can it or drafting to a I mean that it would be it'd be crazy not too and yeah, you could trade that spot. But like, why would you not consider that? And you could came both next year maybe if he really wanted to get crazy. I mean, wasn't he having a He was having a

really good season before he got hurt. With Darryl Bevil there it waits, So Dan, you think it's crazy just because Matthews you're you're gonna get three more years. And I think it's really really hard to find a true franchise quarterback. And the lines did that with Stafford and all their their lack of success over the last decade. I don't put that on him. I put it on and to properly team build around him. And now what

you have to me is a golden opportunity. You have a quarterback who is playing was playing very well before he got hurt, and that was the first time he's

been hurt in eight years. Uh, And you have a chance to continue to progress on offense and then use that number three pick as a potential huge leverage point for one of these teams that do desperately need a quarterback, and you could rebuild your defense on the fly with a massive draft or two, and then all of a sudden, you're in business and there's a strong argument for that.

I mean, that's all that's kind of logical, But I would say there also is another world where if you fall in love with two to such a degree that you feel he's one of these and a lot of people do a new wave quarterback, quarterback of the future, NFL of the future, and you are married to him as an organization that you do you want to be the team that's stuck with the veteran and two years now, like the Lions, they were finally up at number three,

they weren't seven and nine or eight and eight, stuck at pick fourt do you think he's the next Mahomes or Deshaun Watson, even like John Lynch kind of gets out of it, like he drafted Solomon Thomas over a quarterback in that in that draft, and like you only have so many chances with guys that high. And maybe this is all, you know, nonsense because to Uh isn't

gonna be that guy or whatever. But you you at least have to kind of examine, let's get Bernie Smile of Bits in the studio on Monday if possible, actually Tuesday. I don't know if that's gonna be possible. I'm sure he is very big. See Berty Smile of its breaking news. It's such a good name. More quarterback talk. David Tepper, the owner of the Panthers, still mum on the subject of Cam Newton and his future. He said after a charity event that nothing has been decided on the former

m v P at all hinges on his health. Here's a quote via The Athletic. I've said again and again and again about this. It's a question of how healthy he is, foot and otherwise, and that's still number the number one overwhelming thing. To see how healthy he is and how we can figure out when he's healthy or not. Everything comes from that. There was a report maybe a week or so ago that the the Panthers wanted to at least get a look of at Newton before they

made any decisions. So this all seems like at this point, how much more speculating needs to be done on this topic. Uh that they do. I believe they're sincere that they want to see how he's throwing the ball, how he's moving before deciding whether they want to turn the page on the franchise. Could be all smoke and just they're already ready to move on, but I'm kind of just gonna take him with the word and not personally stress

out about this anymore. I mean, I feel like it's not that I was, but if yeah, you're losing sleep over it right now. If they're going to move on though from him, like, this is the perfect time to do it. This is the perfect time for them to hit the reset button with a new head coach with him, with Cam Newton dealing with all of the things that he dealt with last year. I mean, this, there isn't a better opportunity for them to move on and look okay doing it. I I saw this quote and I

just thought, he gone. I read totally into it, Like I to me, they're they're far along in their decision and talk, you know, talking about it, and the owner is not making any commitment to Cam Newton and Ian and Mike. I've you know, I've kind of noticed the tone and there talk on TV or they think he's gone. I was, like, he's gone. I think he's probably gone.

It might get complicated because if he is hurt, but he they're they're a month after this new regime has taken over, and the owners like kinda say that maybe I don't know. You know, I'm with you because he's in the world of franchise quarterback and if this were another franchise quarterback in another organization healing, and this is someone that you wanted to keep for the next four or five years, there'd be no there'd be no kind

of mixed message. It's just very lukewarm. And I think that's lukewarm is probably negative if you're that player, and it probably makes it easier to for them to see that other organizations are moving on from their franchise quarterbacks. So they're in a spot to where, like all these other teams, they it's not like they're gonna just I

don't know if they'd cut him. So they have to see what they could get for him, and there might be a price where in what a lack of options out there where they just say, okay, well we'll give it another year, but that but that they're open to getting ready. I understand the clean aspect of the narrative and the idea of I'm the new owner, now my head coach, now i want my new quarterback. I just would be a little careful about writing off Cam Newton.

And just because it's time for change in our organization that means start over at quarterback too. Would I be surprised at all if Cam Newton got his health back and was an impact player for another few years in the league, I wouldn't be. I just think this is maybe a dangerous move. Now they know more about like Stafford, he was playing very well before his injury, like when he's been on the field the last couple of years he's played. They more than they know more than we do.

I would assume the Panthers about the long term health in the shoulder and the and the prognosis and the foot, which I imagine is something he'll be able to get back from. But I don't know. This one feels like a danger move to to get back into the QB Derby and just hope you could find another guy because it sometimes, as Mark you and I know all too well, it could take decades. You could be wandering the desert. I don't care how good your draft pick is or

how much you fall in love with somebody. A lot of these things don't work out. You have a guy that's won an m v P, that has shown it, and he's not that old. I know he's been beat up, but just well. Also, if age for change sake is little on my right, A new new owner, new coaching staff. But if you rip Cam Newton out of the Panther's locker room, what are you telling the rest of your roster if you don't have a clear answer to replace them. I mean, that's the kind of move that can divide

a locker room. In April, meanwhile, on the throne of Sleeves, Nick Cassario and the Patriots agreed to a contract extension. Remember this is the same Cassario has been there for a while. The Texans wanted to uh to grab him and pull him away from the organization that's stalled out. There was some drama there, but Cassario now will remain with the Pats and Greg in a time of transition for this organization. You got Nicky c in the building

for the foreseeable future. Problem solved, I mean whenever they keep or don't keep people at all. Seems like you have no idea what any of these people, what their value is to the Patriots other than Bill Belichick, especially in the front office, Like I wouldn't be worried if he was on. So now go get scar Neck. You back this, Colleen. You said before the show, there are certain things of this show you're not prepared to talk about. This one. I mean, he oversees the pro and college

scouting department. He's in the booth talking to Josh McDaniels. They were college So I mean, this is not one of the ones I was unprepared to talk about. Now one's gonna now finally, Jamis Winston undergoes lazic eye surgery. The man who became the founding member of the thirty thirty club. That's thirty touchdowns, thirty interceptions, the man who I believe led the league in passing yardage over yards

but a true turnover machine. And now he's undergone eye surgery, which is a brilliant move, pr move as he attempts to get a new contract and and talk. I assume he wants the Bucks to stay in business with him, potentially in the long term capacity of everything broke well for him. But a little reminder, and now that we hear this procedure was done, of what Bruce arians said at his end of season press conference on janu Yeah,

he's nearsighted. I mean he can't read the scoreboard, but he can see the guys in front of him, so he's fine. Seems problematic. I just like the whole matter of fact nature in which Arians said it almost like he put that out there on purpose because he was so pissed at Winston at the end of the season that he decided to share that infro sling a little arrow. I find it remarkable because there probably isn't a subset of human beings in America that are taking better care

of health wise than NFL players. And either the team has done so little due diligence that they didn't discover this was an issue for Winston until at the end of this season, or I mean, what, why not have this procedure done a before the draft or in college. If not when Arians got there and found that out with the guy that he and he was going to flip the switch on. Isn't he wearing contacts? No, I don't. I don't know. He said he's near sighted, that he

I'm nearsighted. I can't see a site he had to block away when he had A publicist released his statement that said, like he you didn't want to count out any options that could possibly help him, that a like presenting that he's being courageous and he's doing everything he can. Is a pro bro. Yeah, Like I think I site my matter a little bit for a quarterback and thought, you're not a hero for doing it five years into

your career. What is what is going on here? I'll be Dan and I'll say, like, who is that woman at the end of the driveway. It's like, no, that's David Eally. It's like if you go back, I mean, you can't see anything if you go back and look at you know, his interception. Sometimes he's catching Luke Keikley in full stride like he he maybe thought that was Cameron Brad, like he just he has no idea what's

going on out there. Handled I see it as a nice little pr gambit what I think it is, because it's like, hey, if you had lingering doubts, if that's some thing that behind the scenes you've heard about, well guess what, it's not an issue anymore. Remove one more obstacle. If the Bucks are and Jason light and and Bruce arians are hung up on bringing me back, we got

to get that Lasic money. Though, you've gotta be signed up by LASI to be a sponsor it's a great it's a great potential storyline though, for if he starts out seven touches, like if he's like the m v P of the league. Next year he starts out on fire and it's just like, oh, yeah, I guess I was just blind the whole time, and then proved he was the guy lace Stock would go through the roof because everyone would talk about it would be the it

would be the major subplot around him. It would be like every time he had a big game, laser Mariota would just Mariota would just get lasic surgery. Everybody shot lace perfect. Anybody guys are like Luke falk Is gonna get perfect, he has perfect vision, will get lasi. Anyway, people are just smashing glasses. You cannot get lasi, Connie, because because you a big part of your look now is the glasses, like you've you've incorporated that into your image,

and it would be really, oh is that true? I don't. Well, so you can get glasses that are not you know, non prescription, but that's an old Hollywood trick McNeill. And then the other eyes a stigmatism, So it's a real problem. You're a mess, I know. She's a freak. All right, that's what's happening in the news. All right, before we get to uh NFL couples who need a divorce, reminder, everybody that a week from tuesday, I believe it is, we will be at st Elmo Steakhouse. I have a

reservation for twelve. Mark, you're gonna be there week from tuesday. It's two weeks. I don't know, my god, it's so close. And uh and and and we're gonna have a nice time together. And Greg, as Connor points out, because you've hit out at st Elmo's about the quality of not you guys think this sensitivity to this issue from the two of you reveals more about you than it every one of those alright, go ahead, more avalue. No, it's

and this is the it doesn't. It doesn't work as well the catchphrase over a mic, but just picture of the image. It's not about the meat. It's about the meat. That's what I try to talk Brank. No one, No one disagrees. M E A T M E Oh, I get it. I mean it's well done. And you Mark, a guy who hates food, hates meat products. Not true. Mean you go there and you have a nice time, right, It's I don't understand this. It's so obvious that there's this like st Almos backlash now where it's like it's

not really as great as everyone says. It's like, it's fun just to go there. Why what is it? Nectur? It is a total and it's the new take. It's like st Almos actually isn't that great. Yeah. I had a piece of a steak stuck in my chest a couple of years ago when I went with you guys, but I never told you I had the bathroom and yeah, yeah, it was just like sitting and different issue. Yeah, so I don't I don't get stake there anymore. Is that the is that the foods issue? Or maybe you're that's yeah,

exactly Valentine's Day tomorrow about that? Who needs a divorce? Get us going? Mark? I came up with these because I think there's a lot of lights very prepared. I feel like this is this is right in your wheelhouse. To say some of these are tough because you have to spin negative and I don't wish to do that

to this person. But I want to talk to you about the record of this team dating back to when this person took on their current role in consecutive years two and fourteen, six and ten, nine and seven, the high water mark five and eleven, five and eleven seven and mine. You have immense questions at quarterback. We've just covered this. You have a roster that seems to never sort of play up to the talented pieces you think

you've acquired in the offseason. The team is up until now because they are changing their uniforms apparently had one of the ugliest uniforms to look at. The general managers part of that. Jason Light to me has outlasted so many disasters in Tampa Bay and a record that I find tough to just sort of back him. I met him.

I think he's a good guy. It's not I'm not trying to flame the dude at all, but like at some point, general managers don't last this long when you look at these records, and I wonder if you know they have to take a hard look in the mirror and not just sort of coddle and be overly cozy to their own front office. Need to make a change.

Nothing is growing in Tampa Bay. The team is developed the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the general manager that you move on to their like you cannot float for a This is since for more than half a decade with no identity, a quarterback is our team is more than

its quarterback. But I will I'll say that in this case, when you do draft a quarterback number one, it does complicate a conversation like this, because especially one like Winston who has been so famously up and down that your team has kind of held hostage for a long period

of time. I mean he drafted him, so yes, so he he gets the blame or the credit or whatever the hell we want about allowed the bad coaches he's hired, the terrible defenses they put together, I think that is all fair and I but I just think in in the case of the Bucks, the wins that has hole held the entire franchise hostage in a lot of ways.

I don't know if they would have it would have changed anything, if if if he would have done a little bit better with the I thought the arians highre was solid like the three before that, right, And also I mean we we a and I'll just say the defense a year ago or yeah, going into last season, or maybe it was the year before that, everyone said this is a great defense said here last year they were two nineteen, and they said that about them two years ago too, and they just it didn't coming up.

Now it's listen, has it been all bad? No, it's not been all bad. But it's just that I don't like and this is this happens in Chicago right now in other places to where the general manager drafted someone very high at quarterback, and there seems to be a lack of self analysis and willingness to say, give me the l on this one. We're going to get a new quarterback. We're four years into this, not six years into Jamis Winston. Please. I was even thinking, like O. J.

Howard in the Bucks too. I mean there, I feel like there's many many divorces that they could do within the larger divorce, right, I thought you were going to Winston, which you know, well that's obvious to me, but it does. But I going into the off season, I think everyone expected Jamis Winston to be back with the Bucks, including

you know, our main reporter, Ian Rappaport. But if maybe it's just because of the vacuum of news out there these days, but it sure's seems like the conventional wisdom is now moving towards maybe they aren't going to bring

back Winston. Maybe they will, maybe Jason Light will actually look at this soberly and and make a move that Winston might be pretty upset about some of the things that Arian said, you know, at the end of the season, where he said so much of it is outright terrible, and you got to look behind what's behind door number two and maybe they're they're a little tired of each other.

To your point, Mark, if this is his window right now, if Light wants to say I can get out from under this guy and get one last shot to get this thing right before they decide that enough time has passed and they can't. It's not gonna work with me and them. Uh, this would be his window or is he gonna go down with the Winston ship. It's a

big decision to make Connie okay. Well, a lot of times I go to bed in a bad mood when a game ends in a tie, screaming fit in the in the apartment, the whole thing, right, I think it's time to divorce the tie game in the NFL. I mean, there is very cheated that I've devoted my time and my energy and for what I mean, like, what are we doing here? It's I feel like we have to sort of stop pretending that this is okay. I mean,

you look around the other major sports. Baseball doesn't do this to us, Basketball doesn't even hockey, even hockey doesn't sport in the world does it quite a lot. I don't want to talk about soccer, all right, that's that what you're talking about. Listen. It feels like a slap in the face when a game ends in a tie. I just like, it leaves me very unsettled. It feels like the entire game was just a waste of everybody's time. So I would like I would like for the ties

to be done with. What um just overtimes just just keep sending it into multiple It just keeps going into so not a college overtime type thing. You're just saying, keep running the overtime period. There's a scenario where they're out there for seven hours straight, three straight. Yeah, baseball does that, and they play six times a week. You gotta have a smart roster, right, you gotta build for

this is a little different. I'm with you a percent too, because when I look at it's like week nine or ten, and you're trying to figure out teams because there's Bye weeks all over the place. And then you've got, like I'm looking at this Arizona Detroit how to tie earlier in the and it just jacks up the visual I like the idea of you gotta finish, you gotta finish the you know, we say finished the suit around here.

You gotta finish the divorce, and that's what you gotta come up with a new overtime, which maybe it's somewhat like college. Maybe after ten minutes there's a tie. You have a kicking competition. I don't care what about defects. Tackles have a kicking either way. You can't have them just playing forever. I understand that part of it. The only saving grace is when Rosie is doing his playoff like permentations, I feel like, yes, yes, who else would

be Rosie? No one? But just for the list, Okay, when you're doing your playoffs scenarios, I feel the ties actually make it more interesting. So that's the only that's the only time. I actually I've spoke on this on this podcast many times. I hate the way the standings look when there's a tie eight seven and one. Hoakeum, I hate all that garbage, but I will point out that since two thousand twelve there have been eight ties total.

So we get like, it's not one a year, uh, sometimes none, Maybe there's two one year on a really freaky occurrence. In two thousand sixteen, we had two. In two thousand eighteen we had to. Last year we had one. You see it as a novelty, it's it's It's not the end of the world. I mean, I wouldn't have people playing until they dropped out of exhaustion, like Colleen's laying it's Survivor. Okay, all right, um, let me throw this out here. Hey, David Johnson and the Cardinals. No

when to say when? What? No one to say? What was once a beautiful you see a marriage story got shut out at the Oscars. Yeah, nice job, got the awards. You're talking Darren as Sons in this podcast three years we essentially invented the dirt. It launched as we spoke about it. I mean, she she's she got the Best Supporting Actress Award. Well learned. But the film, which chronicles the end of a marriage between what's his name Adam

Driver Joe Hansen. That marriage started beautifully in their sparks and electricity, and it seemed they were perfect for each other. That's David Johnson the Cardinals, and then all of a sudden, as time went on, it became apparent that this was not a long term thing. I feel like David Johnson is one of the best by low candidates out there right now if he hits the trade market, and I know his salary isn't by low, but uh, it could be if you could work out something with the Cardinals

about how the money gets distributed. But what we do know is that Jnson and Arizona are on the outs. Kenyan Drake arrived there in a trade last October and I met immediately kind of made his presence felt. And I know he's a free agent and there's things to work out there, but you would think that the Cardinals, if they really do like Drake, will get that deal done.

And I just imagine that there's a team out there that looks at David Johnson, how he came into the league, the fact that in the injury that costs him the year was a risk injury, not a lower body injury. And then last year he was banged up, but it felt like he kind of got pushed to the sidelines, borderline unfairly and moved out of that offense. If it maybe again there's more to it than than people on

the outside. No, but if I'm a team looking for a running back and maybe someone that can make an impact and be a comeback of the player, comeback player of the year type David Johnson, fresh start, but let's end that marriage because it's no longer working. I'm with you. I mean, it makes sense, but the financials, as you mentioned, are rough because if you want to cut him, you can't find a trade candidate, which is very possible because I think teams would think the Cardinals want to dump

him at some point. You know you're not gonna You're not gonna sell high in a trade. It's a sixteen million dollar capit and it's self from a self scouting angle, it's interesting to me that Cliff Kingsbury went and traded for Drake to begin with, and you had David Johnson. There's that There's that macho NFL stuff. Though again then I sometimes think about like Cliff Kingsbury liked Kenyan Drake and he worked with the front office and they brought

that's my guy. Kenyan Drake's my guy, and David Johnson was somebody else's guy. So he's not gonna be my guy. So get him out of here because I want to build a team around how I want. There's also he hasn't crossed four yards per carry since he just hasn't been the same player. I mean, yeah, the the ego thing is one thing. He's had, you know, three hundred plus carry's since he's been back. He's not he's not helping them. He's like, you haven't looked good, ta don't lie.

I mean he had the whole season before, uh, you know with Steve Wilks and that was a tough offense, but Johnathan didn't look good. You had you touched them off, but you touched them all three hundred times and you didn't make any big plays. I mean, anyone watching him the last two years does not think he's an asset. He was behind Chase Edmonds, uh and Kenyan Drake and it's a tough situation. I don't blame them for that contract. He was so good before it you would have never guessed.

And maybe he can turn it around and maybe Bruce arians is the guy to do it, but it's Jason Like. It might be the single worst contract in the NFL. I mean, he's do twelve million dollars this year and it's guaranteed. And he was like the number four running back on his own team, and and yes, they could have given him more looks, but he looked bad. I mean, I just want to see. He didn't look good. He was not healthy, but he was at the beginning of the year and he played the whole year before and

he didn't look good. I don't know what it was. I mean, maybe he's shot, and that certainly happened sometimes. But he's uh, he's gonna be young aged the eighth season. He's still got he should have some guests in the tank. I would just would be a guy you take a look now that again not at his current salary, but maybe if he could work out a deal where Arizona eats some of the money to get him off the books. Well,

and that's if you trade him. That does happen, So it would be Partners would be happy to pay all of his money because they're gonna pay it anyways. It's kind of a sunk cost they've already anyone would even give up a sixth round pick for a seventh round pick move they would happily pay almost all of his salary because they're gonna cut him anyways. There's no way. I can't imagine there's any way they would contract there was I read I read on this there's a provision

of his contract. It was somewhat unusual. It's already fully guaranteed. So it's not even like one of those things like after the third day after the league year. It's two ten point two millions, So he's he could end up there again as a backup, just because the way that I think he would rather just cut him and pay him to go away than bring him back. It just

feels like he fell completely out of favor. So like maybe even a spot like um Atlanta where they're they're talking about, you know, not bringing or getting rid of Duponta Freeman. I mean, it was so fun to watch. It's kind of mystifying it is. Really. That's part of the reason I bring it up to is like, is that is that just what it is? I remember drafted him first in their fantasy league that year, to drafted

him top five in their Fantasy League last year. It's got to be the steepest running back free fall in the past decade. No, I would say Girl is not entirely there yet. I mean, I want but but you'll talk about worse running back contract. Girly is contending with the David Johnson. I got one. I got one coming up for you guys. Okay, Greg, You're I'm gonna make um I'm gonna make Stefon Diggs happy. Well, at least

I think it's gonna make him happy. You can never really tell with Stefund Diggs, which is one of the you know, the reasons I enjoy him as a presence, uh in the NFL is his tweets are mystifying and you always think it's like about the Vikings when he's making it. Yesterday he tweeted everything that was done in the dark is about to come to a few a few days ago. Um, I mean there's a lot of this. Uh there was a few days ago. There was business

is business with his hands up in the air. Um, he really, you retweet, you don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate. It's just he's always sending and this is you know, this is showing how old I am. And it's like, yeah, this is the thing you do. He's sending out the messages. It's fun. It's and and even Mike Szibbers got involved. He's sent little shots about Stefan Diggs over the years, going back three or four years, like little little things where he's not

with the program. These two they just seem like they needed avorce. It's a bad idea, I think from the Viking side, because he's so talented, you should try to make it work. But it just feels like you can get a lot for Stefon dig It feels well when we did I don't know if you guys know this, but do Thursday night football. Oh yeah, but I'll take over anything. Shut up. I would rather be rich um if the When the Vikings beat the Redskins last year, we had Kirk Cousins and Digs on the set together,

and I will never forget how weird it was. Like their energy together was so like cold and icy. Even boys, you guys are trying to be like, hey, we turned back around. You guys had a great game, and they were just kind of like yeah, it was so it was just like awkward as hell. Does Kirk Cousins get any of the blame for that awkward relationship or is it all on Yeah, no, for sure, But I don't I don't know where it stems from. I don't know

what the deal is. He signed a five year, seventy two million dollar extension July thirty one, two thousand eighteen, so he's under contract through three nice contract. If you were trading for him, uh, I would say, yeah, he's a I think he's a great number two guy, like a great second banana, which makes me think he's in a really good spot where he is and the grass

is always greener thing. But he also is the type of guy I think that could potentially fit in with any number of offenses if he got set up with the right spot and continue to produce. He's not happy, he's not happy. I think I would take him over theland if I had to choose to be. He's a top twenty receiver. I'm with you. He's not like a J. Green in his prime or Calvin Johnson. He's gonna take man. Is he talented and like an unbelievable route runner and

just you know, like, I think you're right. He could fit on any any team. I'd go get him Patriots, Uh, Mark one more time around stuff Marks. Now you've got like a bunch of paper. You could you could do a speed round you want to do? You want to go to speedy? Can go speedy? I will, I will speed two and then give you a third, so you'll speed three, or it will be two speedies and the

number one. I think that the Detroit Lions and the number three pick should be divorced because because the Stafford trade is not happening, this is one way to build your team, and they've not been able to just like the Buck's form and identity other than blandness for so long. It's your chance to They've given this relationship along along run. Yes, well that's what Patriots and James devil and give me a break, um Falcons and match shop yahn uh let's

see how this charge yes you to me anymore? Now Here's this is the one that I feel passionate about is the NFL. And this was removed from written copy I wrote today because it was too hot of your dangers, although it's spoken about on our our network endlessly. NFL and the NFL's interest in any concept of a seventeen week season if we don't like the like ties getting in there and jacking up that ridiculous and like I don't want to, I don't want some records here eight

and eight. I love eight and eight because it tells me you are mediocre and your record is mediocre, and you can walk into any bar room in the country and no, no one can argue the fact that you're mediocre.

Suddenly you're eight and nine or nine and eight, and there is no I cannot come up with one good reason for a seventeen weeks season where they're talking about giving star players a second bye week so we can sort of start slowly morph into the NBA regular season, which is utterly meaningles they're not going to do that. The stars thing. I think they got rid of what. I just don't see any reason I don't need to get football teams would give be given a second bye week.

So just from like nuts and bolts our lives perspective, frankly, that's that's all. The second that the week would be two weeks longer, the season would be two weeks longer because it would be one more game and one more bye week. Whenever we not be a good thing for you. I don't think I mean for me either, because I'm you know, math is not my would be like where you're going with this same Give me the money, that's good.

I've got a lot, but you guys don't want to take any of your Jaguars and Leonard four Nette tedious, spin tedious. That's a good yeah, Redskins and Trent Williams. He's got he's under lock and key for one more year. Trade him now and get something because he's not going to stick around the year after. I don't care if Ron River is there or not. I'm done. That was good. That was good. It was a nice one at the end. There it's a little castile. He came out there. Oh

yet all our march. Sure. The most important person in your organization is your quarterback, and the second most important person in your organization is your backup quarterback. And I don't forget about that left tackle. He's protecting your quarterback. I don't have a cast So do you have another divorce? I do? Okay, Okay, So here's the issue. If your significant other is draining your bank account and is never there for you, don't project it's time to serve them.

The papers goes out. It's a time to say goodbye to the highest paid running back in San Francisco, Jerick McKinnon. I mean, he's down, really, guys being operated on as speak. Probably it's financial. It is sad. I mean, I feel like he's basically been getting alimony because he's just been getting paid and it hasn't worked out for when Belichick cuts, it's like, oh, Belichick's cutthroat. He understands how to build a roster. Now we're like the Niners do and it's like, oh,

poor Jeric McKinnon. Listen, they just have a lot of running backs that they are trying to support right now. Celebrating celebrating a man who tours a c and then tours Achilles and back to back. I'm not celebrating. It's just that it's like if another team's like, oh, the Patriots, they're just ahead of the curve. Um anyway I would like to. I feel like that one got brushed off, so Redskins and Josh Norman. That feels like it's maybe

the Vikings. Okay about this one, Vikings and Xavier Roads, Okay, alright, No, I think it just makes sense. They're all happening. I think those they're all happening. I wrote I wrote a piece this week guys who could get cut. I'm interested in the Vikings in general, whether they might blow up that whole thing, because Rhodes is one. But then there's Lynn Vaal Joseph. There's talk that Everson Griffin would get caught, which was shocking to me because he played amazing last year.

There's another couple of guys who have big numbers, and they've had all those guys forever and it and they they're one of the only teams that has real cap issues. And just like they are, they ready to just blow it up because they've been doing it the same way. SYNCD up pretty well for me. Three year dear deal for Kirk Cousins. You get three years at this to figure out Mike Zimmer and if they don't, next year

blow up the whole damn thing. Interesting because I am curious if they'll try to sign Cousins to a new contract like in the summer. Hold on that, yeah, and they might. They might. I'm curious to see because this would be when you would do it. You would not wait till to get free agency next year. If he really believed in him, it's just gonna be a whole thing again. Get ready for Kirk times happening. I'm gonna

do a little twist on this. I want a couple to stay together for the kids, the kids being us, the football audience. Jim Nanson, Tony Romo. That's to stay together. There's a movie that my parents, Deb and Keith loved. The I don't think they love that feel like a Keith movie to me. No, I don't like it, Danny, I don't understand he he should have gotten with us sooner. Um. No, There's a there's a movie that came out in two thousand starring Nick Cage and tay Leone called The Family Man.

Does anybody know that one? Okay, Keith and Deb love this movie. They watch it every year during the holidays. And the hook of the movie is is that Cage and Leone or college sweethearts? And then movie opens with Cage having a decision to make. Is he going to stay in New York with Kate Tea and live happily ever afterre or take this twelve month internship at Barclays in London. Internship. It's a twelve months post unpaid internship. Yes, to get his foot in the door and really launch

his finance career. He gets on the plane. Cut to twelve years later, he's a hugely successful UM investment dude. Uh, he's a bachelor living in Manhattan and Leone she's settled down with somebody else. And then it becomes one of those things where a angel comes in the form of um.

Who's that actor. He's the guy that you know, He's the guy from Ocean's eleven, the bomb expert, African American gentleman Don Chee, Thank you, Don Cheetle is an angel and he says, what if you lived your life differently? And then he wakes up and he's living the suburban dad life with Leonie and then he he learns to love that one. Anyway, nice movie, nice job, Nice job by Nikki Cage in a big spot with that type

of movie after all the action pictures. Anyway, if if Romo took the money and went to ESPN his has been reported out there, that would be him getting on the plane and going to taking the Barclays thing, and he might end up being richer than he could ever imagined. And I'm sure ESPN will bend over backwards to find roles for him to to make their money. Uh but Jim nances Teleoni in the situation and will either of them be happier in the long term. I don't think so.

I think you stay where your heart is and that's the best buddies working CBS, working the biggest A f C games for the next fifteen twenty years, and ignore the siren call of more money because that's what your agent tells you you need to do, and that's what this is about. And just follow the money. Stay with CBS. They're gonna pay you very wells as well, and then just do it that life. They're already getting paid well. So at that point, why don't you just stay with

the person that's going to make you happy. There you go. I thought you were gonna stay. Get Nicholas Cage back together with Lisa Marie Presley back in the day. I think that's that was the one. I think that ship

sails as well. Anyway, wouldn't that be a bummer though we we speculated about it, But if Romo really left and he was doing Monday night games, it would bother me unless unless, like you know, someone wanted to rest both of them away from CBS and keep the n D. But what I like about the guy can't go together. It's like you're not messing with the beard in the in the beak eagle together to keep those two together. Keeping together blows it out. Oh wow, it's a lot

of pressure. I mean, we were asked to prepare to so I, um know, I know, I've got a I've got a few different options. We've talked so much quarterbacks. How about the Los Angeles Rams. Don't spend a season trying to explain why the Todd Gurley contract actually made so much sense and that why yeah, why, um, oh we're not using him that much or this or that or oh he's actually just as good as he was before.

Just you can't see it clearly, even though he's got half the production is before he's really helping us out. And just like they're always on the defense of the whole Todd Gurley thing just feels like it's a lot of high maintenance, a lot of drama. They're meeting with him before free agency, which sounds ominous. If if I was Todd Gurley and wanted to stay with the Rams,

I just feel like, just take this cell. It was it was a bad idea, I guess to do this, uh, to do this contract, and I don't think you could get much for him in a trade, but I do think you gets something. I don't think he's at the point with David Johnson where you just the contract is problematic and you'd have to give up money for it. But it just feels like, let's move forward. I think they're running game could be pretty dynamic, and there's just a lot of baggage with Todd Gurley that I think

would be fine to move on. I find a curate the idea of another front office saying we now want to spend that pr message for the next two or three years for him, hopefully in another place. He would just be like another player. He has this thing here where it was like Todd Gurley is our m v P Candida and he's the identity of the RAM and we're giving him this contact sucked into the whole story around it, and yeah, he's guaranteed thirteen million dollars. So

like Stafford, it doesn't really make any financial sense. You would have to be willing to take on that a lot of that money just to get rid of him, But I think sometimes a fresh start, you know, yeah, people say and divorces, you know it costs that much money because because it's worth it, because you're happier on the other side, I feel like, what would happen to Jared Golf in this situation? I mean, what would happen

to him? I was going to say that when we have this conversation next year, somebody might bring up Jared goff Is the next it's got to go. I think that's very possible, very possible. We'll see. I think that's different. They'd be fine without time. Can I just throw out one more I think the Steelers and Big Ben should stay together. I don't think it'd be a terrible idea for the Pittsburgh go and get a gumar, get you know, somebody on the side of side they tried to do

and they keep getting the wrong kumar. Or or how about you bring like you know, you've got your Saturday night girl, Your Friday nights are with the wives. Saturday nights is with the girlfriends, not me. But yeah, you're not advocating that as a personal approach to Saturday plus like you you have this one a strange Uncle Levan Bell with the Jets that isn't really working there, bring

him back into the fold. You have this other wacky cousin who's down there in Florida making a lot of news writing Instagram posts about how he's sorry to Big Ben, bringing Antonio Brown back like bringing the whole gang back together, dysfunctional family. Uh. I just want to point out one last like nugget about that he's gonna be thirty eight next month. We just saw, you know, Eli was going into the tank and then he bottomed out this year.

Philip Rivers obviously went into decline. It is a bit of a big assumption to now believe that Big Ben maybe not the biggest fitness nut in general to start with, coming off a whole missed year with a pretty horrific elbow injury in his age thirty eight season, he'll be fine.

There's a chance he's gonna stay. And then one of the Steelers do that's why you go get a Saturday night Well, so they like they tried, They drafted guys in the first four rounds over and over, and if Mason Rudolph didn't emerge as a bottom like four quarterback in the league, maybe they wouldn't spin this these words with big bats. I'm saying, I'd take Andy Dalton to the COPA. That's set the table up right in front of Frankie Valley and Fulton. Does not sound like a

fun Saturday night girl. Saturday night girls a thing I've never I've never heard of. I've not heard of such. I've never heard of the phrase I've never like, I would guess the majority of our offense, I mean our audience. I've never heard the phrase. I've never heard the phraser this. That is a direct lift from Goodfellas that they all the guys, all the wise guys, Fridays with the wives, Saturdays with their girls. Now I understand that stuff. I gotta have a lot of money coming in. I like.

I think those guys did that. They were very fluid. Mike's coming on this show because you know, if you if you're on NFL network, you can't even throw in just little lines like Ben, you know, maybe not one of the big fitness guys in the league. He can't even say that on NFL network. That's like most inductionable things we've said. Maybe maybe Big Ben is Rocky in the shack in Russia. Right now, nobody knows, and he's gonna come back in August looking unbelievable, but yeah, that

would be such. What's more likely he comes back looking unbelievable in August. He definitely seemed like he does though. Actually, yeah, he knew, he knew he was he he was out for the year, and he was like, he was like, He's like, this is a unique time in my career. I'm gonna embrace this. I have a giant starter Parker that I could hide underneath, and a big old beard. That sounds it does I think reporters can lose the occasional I R season, but that sounds like my off season. Connie,

you've done it again? Is that brassy voice again? Flappinger came out there. Yep, you've done it all. You've said it all. Thanks. What's next in the off season of Connie? I'm gonna go see a movie. I think I've been watching more movies and uh, what you plugging in on news? What's happening other than football? It's great. I don't know, I haven't seen Little Women. Maybe that's it? Really so good. I watched Parasite last night, checked that Wild Wild movie. Good.

I wasn't prepared for what the movie was subtitles. Do you don't have an issue with that? No, that was fine. I mean it was a lot. There were a lot of twists and turns, and I didn't necessarily like the way I felt after the movie, but I I can't stop thinking about it. Yeah, Joker, which caught a lot of heat. That had that effect on me. I was a little bit upset by Joker, Like I walked out of the theater. Yeah, I'm with you, but it was and then it was painted at something else. I never

saw it. I would say parasite in the theater was as like impactful, uh, and experience as as one I've had in a movie theater in years. And you walked out. Yeah, but you skipped Hustlers, which I saw, which was that left me shaking. I texted Mark when I was watching Hustlers on the on the flight back one week, just how much I loved it. I thought, I've heard great. I was a little worried though, on the plane. You know, it's a challenging plane movie. I don't know what they

included or what they decided not to include. It wouldn't Yeah, you've got people two rows back looking at That's what I'm say. I wasn't worried about that so much as like the seven year old kid like two seats now, you always have children on your mind in a good way. You care about children one of your qualities. And I'll throw it out since I brought up earlier The Family Man two thousand, Nick Cage ta Leoni, m hmm, what's

his name? Yeah, spect here, put some respect and maybe don't watch it now do do the Keith and Dead move? Wait till the holidays. You curled up with the Man and the dogs. Then a little leg dog. That's great. Check out the family. Put that on the calendar for next year. I mean that was real Leone's final film as far as I'm concerned, that was anything since Takedown in a big spot. He was like she vanished. Nick Cage just having some big hits, I mean some. He

was in a good run. There had an adaptation around there. Matt Stick Men was a little underrated. Bringing out the Dead was good. I mean he gone in sixty seconds. He was doing like three a year was RELIONI had a pretty awful divorce with the dude from kind of side track. Forgot about that all right, that was a divorce. See, I'm on her side. It was a fair question. I've not I don't feel like she's you know, dazzling Hollywood. It's speaking of infidelity. That to Coveny was a cad.

He had a Saturday night lady. What was it? He had many ladies every day of the week. Alright, So we'll be back on Tuesday. It's President's Day and I know that um West is away for the weekend. I'm going up to the mountain that you were just at Mark. You're getting loose, I know Greg's going nuts. Were on a solo tip party in Santa Monica. Yeah, we've got a big date Saturday night. But no, I wouldn't say

getting too crazy. So we'll be back Tuesday. And Gregg pointing out that he doesn't have a Saturday were you know, he's going out with his wife. And I never heard of the term. I'm a one woman man. The vows I'm shining. I'm looking out for the listeners. If Colleen and I don't know what a Saturday who does? But Dan, I'd like to know how you know so much about this. Gregg looking out for the listener for the first time in roughly seven years. Greg's on his burner right now.

Oh yeah, all right, Ricky, but I love you. Just want you to know that, Ricky. Are we cool? Are we are we good? Yeah? That's how we Let's see if that divorce is happening. Yeah, no, we're We're all right. We're working through it. Yeah, I'm I got a support group of an improv class that you're not in, So gonna take the accelerated want to catch off. There's a saying Colleen called kidding on the square when someone is

joking around but they actually they mean it. I think I'm just gonna say this, and the time is not great because now we're gonna end the show and then you guys are gonna be face to face. But I think maybe it might be a time to maybe do a show of friendship, like maybe a spa day together, something to show that you are you, you value Erica, that you love spending time with ericaus who wouldn't, And that will kind of clear the decks of any lingering

animosity about some recent events that have occurred. Erica. We could go get a facial Yeah, I'd love to. Alright, is and hands is signing off for cuiet store Ganti Fox, Oh, don't forget about this. Sweep steaks The A t N Podcast at gmail until Tuesday, m

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