Most Interesting Offseason Storylines

is very, very rich. Dang, we should roll with this, maraw I believe that. I believe that was the runner up. Oh I like this one. Yeah, maybe we'll switch it up for this shop. Or we could play this one. Jeremy sharp good job, Sharpie. Yeah this one might be even better. Oh this was the one that liked right, say, it's time in box. But no matter. You know who they mean. She's here today on at and talking. It's your favorite NFL's lone wolf. He names west wasately upset,

all right, I think that it needs to be this one. Then, well he was legitimately upset with me and you even though you were the one in your own uh song. Wes had very eclectic music taste and maybe he was into bluegrass and country that particular. Sure to it. Um, Yes we are back. Thank you to everybody, um for checking out all that super Bowl content. That was a lot of super Bowl content. You guys were work maybe

too much, maybe just about the right amount. Greggy, I don't know, but people seem to I wanted more on super Bowl Night, just like a little more. Yeah, you know, people just like the thin the to be continued ellipses dot dot dot um. After we had to basically cut shorter super Bowl episode about you know, let's say seven or eight minutes because we were told the police were pounding down the door. Greg and I and Mark get our stuff together. We're like, oh my god, we gotta

get out. Swing open the door and a completely empty concourse, no security, no cops. Did graver make it up. This is the first time they broke. They were coming into the studio multiple times speaking with aggressive voices, but then they left. I don't know. Yeah, the sheriff with his big hat and like I'll go home, sheriff, he like to like in the stadium. Security came multiple times. Yeah, that was like you gotta leave, you gotta leave. And then a sheriff showed up and we were allowed. Sorry,

don't miscing true what I'm saying, Greggy. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm just saying when we swung that door open, it was literally we could have been in there in the middle of March where the building was cleared completely. There was nobody there, so where was this. I thought it was like a swat team situation. When we got out there, we were gonna have to duck

und team go. I thought we were gonna open the door and the red like dots would be all like two and the one in the forehead a little too much, and it was just like, what is going on. I'm sorry, I'm glad you guys survived. Scary. Yeah. No, we went to the field and we saw the Chiefs, you know, in the NFL employees were still enjoying that confetti and it was a party. It was. We went down there,

got some confetti. Colleen. We would have had a chance to get you confetti you had and I and I said, Connie, a couple of days before the game, you said, if you guys, happen to get down on the field, grab me some green and white confetti. Yeah, And I said that seems jin Xi, and um, I'm not saying it manifest good things. How do you? How are you feeling now, eight days clear, coming out of the darkness the big game? It's been it's been really tough, guys. I've really left

my house or my couch. It's been even just like getting up in the morning and opening the blinds, taking a shower like that's hasn't happened pretty much. It that's what I can do. But I did something different Santal thirty three. You know, Connie, and this is why I don't know what that is. That's shamboo um uh. Connie, because she's contractually obligated, did have to do a podcast with me two days after the Super Bowl, the power As Podcast, which you could check out. I loved it.

I loved every minute of it. And we did discuss at length forty eight hours later and post mortem, Um, where you felt? And I think I asked you, although I don't remember because a lot of things happened since then, where that stacks in terms of the worst losses of your fan life? Oh? Right? Is that is that? Number one?

Was that the toughest as a sports fan. Toughest loss for me personally, yes, especially being there live watching it and to have the tide turn how it did, and for everything to be going in one direction so positively and with so much momentum, and then for all of it to come falling back down. Maybe the best Eagles team ever, just like the pure the team I know finish it so that I think that makes sense. I

don't even know what would be. The roster was great, they were healthy, everything was going big lead at halftime, homes limp into the locker room. Yeah. By the way, NFL Films did come through. Talked about this on the Sunday Night Show, his NFL Films moment, the slow motion run on that scramble to get into field goal range. Great job with the music and everything. The Sable Gang

always comes through. That was obviously anti climactic the ending, as we talked about, but the game itself was tremendous and to your credit, you texted in the middle of that madness, I think you were down UM twenty seven at that point and said, this is like the best game ever or something. It was still it still was one in my mouth. It was the Jets. I wouldn't be texting anything, trying to just like keep it together

at that point. And I was like when when I when things are falling apart, I text you guys usually, So that's what was happening. I found. Have you found yourself avoiding like the like the NFL film stuff. Yes, of course, of course. I I you know what I found on Monday. I'm not an Eagles fan, but I have been rooting for them off and on on this podcast quite a and uh, you know, in general over the last six or seven years. I have a friend that works there and everything, and I the next day,

the day of, you're always just enjoying the game. It's fun for us to cover the Super Bowl. It's great to be there. I still love like Patrick Mahomes and like, it's all there. And then the next morning I was like, I felt like they were not my team, but I was disappointed. I didn't want to see any of it. It was the champions with the Chiefs. Gere that I feel your pain. Greg, You're you know you're you're in managing your brand and that you could have had the

goals over Chief Super Bowl prediction. You could have had it. It was all there for both you guys, it was and I was just someone just watching it all soaking it in. I have to say, oh, it's great for me to be an NFL fan. Yeah, I will say, like my whole stance going into the game with Patrick Mahomes, who's not a jet killer, He's just this great quarterback who's in a faraway division, and I enjoy his career more as it's no Tom Brady situation for me, Like

it's fun rooting for greatness. It's kind of how like I always rooted for Lebron all through his career, especially those against the mega teams, the Warriors teams, and that was my favorite, like non personal favorite team game ever was Game seven of the sixteen Finals where Lebron had the iconic block and it was just like, here's this dude, an all time great, perhaps the greatest, and if he's not the greatest, season the top five, taking on the

superior outfit and willing his team to victory. Kind of some of those I's here with Mahomes beating the Eagles, Yeah, because I think the Eagles were a better team, but Mahomes is maybe the Greatest ep. No, so the Chiefs one. The Chiefs won the Super Bowl. Everyone. That's another episode of the Round the end of podcast. Thank you Colleen for joining us. We can contain multitudes. We can appreciate that, I know, being disappointed. How how was your week You

went to Big Bear? I went to Big Bear this weekend with my throwback podcast partner Bob Families. It was big for the Bear. Big Bear was big for the Bear, the old zeuser Um. I posted a photo in the in the mountains. I got a lot of pop on the gram. Um something good about myself right now? And was that you with like a bud light or something? It was a madelo. Okay, let's are overseas. Listeners are like, cut yourself for real beer mite. It's all right, calm down.

I don't really like beer, but I had one to enjoyed it like those loggers, those Mexican loggers. But the kids were sledding and building big fires and in the nice house that we all got together, and you know, spending good times. This is a great model, su This is it right here? Oh my god, it's definitely in portrait mode. He's looking off to the side in the distance curly. I like it when you let it get curly. My partner, my personal partner, Bob, took that photo as well.

In the woods together. It's like the third half episode of the Last of Us. Um, before we get to the football. I did want to mention I was at dinner and I did text you guys about this, but for the listeners, I was at dinner on Sunday night, great dinner at the end of the dinner and it had had great service the whole time. Mean in it was in West Adams. Amazing food, by the way, amazing. What kind of food is that? You're my food. I'm

gonna eat you. Um Chinese, but like like spicy beef noodle soup and like crazy spicy hot and sour soup and amazing dumplings. There's a few all over the Originals in San Gabriel. I don't know. It's a big foodie, especially a big spy, tired chef but still in her bones. Yes and um. At the end of the meal, he said, I just want to let you know, you know, I'm a I'm a big fan of the show. After the meal, After the meal, right as we're leaving, after we paid

for the check. I'm a big fan of the show, and uh, you know, I'm sorry what happened to West. It was a really big fan of Chris. Um I grew up near Tybee or either I'd lived near Tybee or he had grown up near Tybee and he and he said that, and it was Chris's birthday and um,

and it just felt like I don't know. I immediately texted Tis too afterwards, just like it felt like it was like Chris saying hello on his birthday to me, because nothing like that had ever happened on any meal or any day, and for that to happen on Chris's birthday and the same Yeah, and we were texting Lukisha she had some like personal news, like really good news for herself and her family that came out on that on the same weekend. Um, Yes, happy birthday, Christopher Westling.

Uh so that's good. It's nice though. And Greg, oh is your birthday too? We share a birthday, yes, right, and we share it with Roger Goodell. Happy. It's happy birthday to Rid Um you are um forty four? I am, yeah, it's good work. Congratulations getting up there, he's getting up there. I'm forty two, So now two years difference between us until Yeah, your birthday and like four months when is it? No, Well,

I can't get mad at you. I didn't realize what was your birthdays week in April April twenty third, Um, thanks blew it. It's like it's like it was like it's mitten to late offseason, my birthdays falling on the night one of the draft or or in the old days. Um, it's your birthday, get on the plane and fly a cross country for the draft. I can't imagine how awful that is. January second is a great day to have

a birthday. Baby birthday. Yeah, we occasionally, I think it only happened once or twice, but have a birthday together West and I at the combine. I remember doing shot with West at our first combine together. I think there we have a photo of that. Let's joined the company. Because you guys were not you were bedfellows in many ways, Um like Bob and I m but you weren't. Um like West was kind of like a power drinker and

he would party. That is not you. But the fact that you had a shot, Um, Greg was probably feeling a little We had We had a bunch that night that was that was a wild night. You gotta get Greg just one one night this offseason, County, Let's get Let's get Greg drunk. I've seen him very close. Let's get him drunk though. That's fine, Yes, challenges. I love that. I mean, let's pick a day. Okay, then do it all right, let's get into we gotta do a podcastcast.

We're just dcast right here. It literally is um so we're gonna get through all the news that's happened in the past week plus. I do want to as a way to get into things, a reintroduction. Hi, Hello, how are you? I want you guys to share with me. You're what is like the big offseason story before we hit the news that you're like excited about. Like, I'm my name is Dan, I'm a Taurus. Okay, let's hear your story. Yeah, my offseason story that I'm most interested in,

non Jets related, but kind of related Lamar Jackson. I want to say that. The reason I say it is because I feel like we got maybe got a little we got a little bit wrong. Um. The last like big quote unquote update on Lamar when Harball came out in the Presser and Dakasta, you know, and they said the two percent chance he's back, and on this show we were like, oh, well that's you know, it sounds like that that thing's settled down. Everything's gonna be fine there.

They'll figure out something. And then to the point when we had um Bridget on the show, which is increasingly looking like maybe a bad decision, not the right choice, nobody even brought up the Lamar situation is something that we should look in and get a projection on, because again we I think this podcast was kind of like, oh, the Ravens are gonna get done some more the like news you're hearing that's trickling out, and it sounds like this is very much still open to Lamar ending up

somewhere else. Peter King was on Eisen Show last week and you know, Kings plugged in and he was thrown out. You know what can happen, including Greggy, the possibility that the Ravens give Lamar the tag but not the exclusive tag, and then allow him to negotiate with another team who could then set the terms of the negotiation, and if the Ravens choose not to match, they get two first round picks. And I'm thinking to myself, the Ravens didn't even go that far to let him go talk to

other teams. Things could get dicey. Yeah. Our colleague, the Pell Raiser, Tom Pella Sero, had a similar ISS report, basically saying on Super Bowl Sunday, there's a bunch of different ways they could attack it that they're expected to play the place the franchise tag. But I tend to think when these reports come out that that there's some information from the team coming, and it does feel like

they're at least willing to entertain what could happen. Now, if I was them, I wouldn't I would place the exclusive tag on it. Yeah, and you can still figure out a trade potentially if you are open to doing that. I think they would be crazy. Two first round picks doesn't feel like enough, you know what I mean? But okay, so what would be probably wouldn't be a three first round pick thing, but like what was the Russell Wilson?

I feel like that would be someone. Obviously it looks silly now with how Wilson played, but I think that was two first I think maybe a second, two twos, a fifth, And they also got and there were players involved, and Noah fan Rush it was the first and a second in two drags maybe something considering what the money

and guaranteed the contract that seems somewhat close. Then if it's a two first round pick, then the Ravens don't have to be involved with the negotiation and they could know for sure like what he's asking that there's teams willing to go that far in terms of the guaranteed money, we're told reportedly apart right now they know, Well, that makes sense to me. So there's a been reports that like they were offering one hundred and thirty guaranteed and

how much did de Shaun Watson get guaranteed? I think it was two thirty there it is he wants a fully guaranteed contract because because like why why wouldn't you right? Right, because here's like the Ravens don't need to find out if a team is willing to there are multiple teams willing to, and he's still negotiating. I have no question. Well, his his mom, right, and they do have like a lawyer,

you know, but as essentially he's his own agent. Yeah, and and Mark is not in obviously today, but um, it would perhaps bring him some comfort to realize that. And we heard this from UM people. Steve Weish told us about this that after the Watson Browns contract was done, which was unprecedented in terms of the guaranteed money was fully guaranteed, owners were not happy across the league. It's like,

that's going to set a precedent. Guess what the Ravens or the Browns are kind of sticking it to the Ravens now because they're getting their feet held to the fire by what the Browns did with that Watson guy. So there you go. Everything's even now, even Steven. I mean they're still stuck with Deshaun Watson and need to make that work. Well that's a whole separate thing. But yeah, if if I'm Lamar and Kyler Murray's guaranteed money is what what was he at one sixty? Yeah, he's at

one sixty and the Ravens are offering one thirty. I totally am with him playing this thing out because the reality is there are multiple teams. I think that would just give him a fully guaranteed contract because that's what it would take to get him. Yeah, I mean, you can't get anywhere in this league if you don't have a quarterback and they have one right now, so keep him. But yeah, you jets being one of them, maybe they

could be one of them. How about you, Greggy? What? Okay, I got a little more specific, so I'm starting to do the top one of one list? Are you too? I introduce yourself to Greg Rosenthal. I was born on February nineteenth, nineteen seventy nine. That makes me and Chris and Roge a Pisces. But we're like a cusp so gen X, whereas I am a geriatric millennial as a

nineteen eighty baby. But we're like, I'm with you, I think gen X fits better, but we're also like we don't really fit the gen X thing totally that we're a little too young for that. But what's before Pisces? Because we're like cuss babies where we sort of have that like cool, laid back dreamer vibe, but we're since we're like right on the cusp, we've also got that get stuff, gut done vibe too, So it's anyway now I kind of believe in that more than anything else. Relative. Yes,

just also a Pisces. Just wanted to me, I wonder joined the party? Did we miss your birthday. Good vibe kind up? Oh March seventh, Okay, forget it though, I don't need any he doesn't want any gifts. I don't need any attention or anything on my birthday. I'll just be quiet and then thank you. Justin I don't know what you're gonna get plenty attention on that birthday. Aquarius is before and my off season storyline. I was wondering.

I mean, if you bring up, if you go out of your way to break into the podcast to say, hey, heads up, and I'm also a Pisces and here is my birthday now, I just wanted to like join the Pisces party. Fun party. It is fun. Um, I don't know now we got exactly I'm a Pisces and I'm working on a top one on one free agents list. Do first draft tomorrow. Put that on the dating profile

right at the top. Yeah. And I'm interested in how Colleen's Philadelphia Eagles are going to handle this off sne because I think this is one of the best front offices in the league. Um, Howie Roseman is amazing. They also assistant general manager Alec Halliby, who's been there and been spearheading their analytics department and getting like a new promotion each and every year, and it's kind of their

secret sauce. I feel like there who's been there a long time, and I look at them and I feel like they're the most interesting team in the entire offseason because you have that Jalen Hurts contract sitting out there, but you also have a million free agents. I'm doing this one oh one less and it's like, oh, okay, here's an Eagle. Oh, here's another Eagle, here's another Eagle. It's mostly on defense, where you have Jahn Gardner Johnson.

You have James Bradberry, who's more famous than he was a few weeks ago, but was a really good pick up. Marcus Epps who's a starter, Javon Hargrave, who's my number three overall free agent. You have the guys that you identify with the Eagles more than anyone, Brandon Graham and Fletcher Cox. Oh, by the way, you have your two

starting linebackers, Kaiser White and TJ. Edwards, who I think they can replace, but they both played well, and you think, okay, you're basically restarting on defense, but you still have Isaac's Syamala who's a starting guard. You have Miles Sanders, like Minshoos their backup quarter. It's just everywhere, and normally you'd panic a little bit. So I'm feeling you're triggering. Okay, here's the reason why I feel like someone's sitting on my chest. Here's the reason why I'm so excited. They

are not a like, oh woe is me? All this stuff is happening to us. They are going to be aggressive. I think they could make a lot of trades. They are gonna restructure. I think they are a team when you look at them and think like, oh, all this is happening, how much can they even hold on to They'll actually be among the most aggressive teams in trading and picking up new freegance just because that's who they are,

even with the Jalen Hurts contract out there. So I think defensively they could be as aggressive as any team out there. We thought that they were in trouble last offseason, like in terms of like, oh, they've got a lot to do, and look at all they added, including a Son Reddick, including Arder, Johnson, Bradberry, and I just think they are going to be major players over the next few weeks. And I'm fascinating because I think they make

so many good moves. I feel like I didn't hear a whole lot of you said, because I'm just gonna their offense is basically set, and even losing all those guys on defense, they still have a lot, a lot, all right, Yeah, and they I think Howie mother Effort deserves the benefit of the doubt at this point to know the best way to play this. I think I think they're gonna be fun. And you see the way that quarterback played. Jal Hurts looked great. A stud. I

know you can get fifty million a year. He's gonna get paid here, and then that changes the salary structure again, so there is a window. The window. That's what hurts still good. It hurts me more after like seeing him grow, for him to have one of the best performances in

a Super Bowl I've ever seen. And someone responded like, this has to be right there with Brady against the Eagles and Warner against the Steelers as like the best performances ever by a quarterback who lost, And I was like, yes, that's true, but I also think it's just one of the best performances by a quarterback when I did rewatch just the Eagles offense, like the coach's film, just because I just I wanted to see how he did and like that was the best game of his life. It

was the best game of his life. You can't take out. But he gave them six points, right, which is which is probably saying it was gonna he played beautifully. I'm just saying, if you want to start talking about best game ever, he produced a huge touch probably why it's like not the best performance by a quarterback ever, and it's just right there with Brady and Warner and you know he doesn't. They didn't have that huge negative plays.

But he also had five I think pff Adam has five or six big time throws in that game by far, a career high, like among I think it was right there behind one or two games by any quarterback all year of the most of any quarterback in any game. And oh, by the way, he also rushed for three touchdowns and ran for ninety four yards. So yes, there is that that negative, but it's like it was a crazy performance. I really think it was the best game he's ever played in it. He was awesome in the game.

That turnover maybe it's you can't really play it that way, but maybe that's the reason. But it's also a bad luck too, like it was totally on him that he dropped it, but he happened to kick it right backwards and then to earmuffs. Connie. I think if they if they don't throw the flag on the third down, Mahome's best, I think they win the game. I think they go down the field and score, just because I think Hurtz was completely locked in at that point. You've lost me

for the show. All right, just let's let's try to move past it. But I think Greg's overall can see it is trust the organization to reload and be ready. Trust the process, Trust the process. Okay, all right, I'm back. I'm back. Okay, guys, um Hello. My name is Colleen wolf Um, but I mostly identify as Connie Fox also sometimes yeah um. And you know what I remember today. Ice Box was my nickname in college, and I totally forgot about that. Why ice Box was an ice box ska.

I don't know why they called me. She was like a burly linebacker. Maybe it was because I was a figure skater that unless you were in a movie at the time when connect But yeah, it's like, oh, that's that's me cool. Um So I think the robots have already taken over. Um So that obviously is the only way that you could explain Tank the dog and the dog bite must have been a robot. It's been a big couple of weeks for AI. Yeah, yeah, it's popping

right now. Yeah, popping off big time. And the offseason storyline I'm most interested in is I have a bunch here because I couldn't. There's so many that it was hard to even pick with all of the different quarterbacks moving around. And you have Sean Payton now with the Broncos. How he makes over that whole place. I'm interested in the Niners quarterback situation with Brock Purty and Tree Lance. But I think the thing I'm most intrigued in is Hard Knocks twenty twenty three. Who will it be? Who

will it be? Because you know the most there's there's only four teams that can do it right. Well, other teams can volunteer, but you're right, what are the four teams? The four teams? Now, First of all, the teams need to have not made the postseason in two straight seasons. They need to have the same head coach for at least two years, and they need to have not been featured are on Hard Knocks in over a decade. I wrote that boiler plate forty seven times on our website. Perfect,

so you should know that by heart. The teams are the Bears, the Saints, the Commanders, and the Jets. Yeah. If the Jets signed up with one of these big quarterbacks, I could see Woody being on a power trip and just being like, let us on that show too, let go, let's just win the off season quote unquote. He did it before when they were hot, when Rex was there.

We'll get to Rex later too. Yeah. So that that's late March, like yeah, like hey Aaron Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, Yeah, um, Derek Carr, that announcement's coming on soon, ish, I believe I just checked. It happened in late March last year, but that was I think a late a late one. Yeah. I was thinking more in terms of just like this month, I don't need the I don't need the Commanders. The Saints US could be interesting. I want the Jets. I'd be okay with. That's for me. I would watch that.

That's your the thing you're looking forward to most of this entire off season. But also like this is more of a like sentimental one. But D'Angelo Hall being named the new DV coach in is like something that I am so freaking excited about. I'm so happy for him, Like I almost started crying because I'm upset that, like we're losing him. And he worked with him a lot.

I worked with him on the Saturday morning show that we had when it was a good morning football weekend, and that show with Michael Robinson and Mike Garifolo was so much fun. We were a little family, just like an She had a lot of fun on that show. She talks about her I love all of my kids equally, all right, all of my children, but I he has been since the moment I met DeAngelo. He's been talking about how he wanted to get into coaching, or he wanted to get into a front office, and that was

his dream and he's going to chase it. And he finally got the opportunity and it's so well deserved and he's such a good guy and I just can't wait to see him shine. I see that makes a lot of sense. I would have thought that his dream was listening to Dan and I like fat jokes behind him as we watched like a boring Sunday night football games in the film room, and he was ready to do

that show with Chris Rose. Yeah. I always um, I was always looking like a break the ice with the Angela during the season and if we just woant to know and I never connected the dots on the Good Morning Football Weekend. I just wouldn't name drop. It would have been that we would have been like Thicket the key in the back row. Yep. I feel like he's yeah,

it seems like a nice guy. Greg was trying to like kept like trying to bring DeAngelo in like a cave on thing, like, hey, we're friends, right, what do you do? But it's like, Greg, we sat next to each other at the talent summit, so we had, you know, a lot of great Oh that's huge. I've sat next to Jeremiah twice and it had the opposite effect. So it goes either yeah, right, um, all right, let's take a break and then we'll get caught up on the news.

All right, welcome back, let's do some news. So, hey, what's up man, how you do? Good? Good true Shoe shoe shoe shoo, shots, explosives, explosives you can ride. Um, I feel like we're post, especially after your friend Nick Sirianni Connie, where Post won the press conference in trying to make snap judgments on coaches. So I'm not going to do that. That was Jonathan Gannon, former DC of the Eagles, who is now the head coach of the Cardinals, and that was his first face to face meeting captured

on social media. Who was it with Rondel Rondel Moore and what exactly was going on there for the audience that's just hearing the audio, which is bonkers. He just walked up to Rondelle and they like sort of dapped, and it was an awkward like white DApp Obviously we

do our best, but it doesn't always. And then all of a sudden he speaks after they they do they're like little hug and whatnot, and he looks Rondelle up and down and then pauses because there's just like an awkward silence, and then he just starts going shots, shots, shots over here and just like moving with exaggerated hand movements and yeah, like all of the different things that Rondelle could do, like oh, like in patterns and running okay, but like there was no context to it, and he

didn't even say that. I don't know. Maybe he did after the clip ended that we saw, but it was the most awkward interaction. I was kind of looking at him like he had an elbow growing out of his forehead. Like what a first impression there was that. And there's also a video of like he finds out that Kyler Murcer's back in the weight room when he's just about

leaving for the airport, and Gannon just starts running. He's like he's in there, He's in there, and then the camera follows him and people thought this was stage, but I really don't think so. And he gets up to Kyler, he just starts clapping as much as he can and likes all fired up. But I watched the press conference and he's got a lot of energy that Jonathan Gannon. That's my takeaway, a lot of energy. I like, we're learning, you know, we're learning that. Actually, I don't think he

lost this one. I think that the Cardinals fans were kind of like, sweet, it's not like a vaguely depressed friend said Cliff. But he always gave off like kind of a low energy affect, and that's a very um standard firing hiring cycle. You get a guy, it's totally different. Gannon is different. I mean, he did catch some criticism in Philly Connie. We've talked about that on the show, but at the end of the day, he takes over his head because the final game it was very similar.

Reminds me a lot of Now I was gonna say, Matt Patricia, Oh, Patricia, that's what I was thinking of. Who you know, got blasted by the Eagles, right uh, and then on his way to taking that lion's job. So is that a that's I don't think it matters, but it's not. I think it's a it's a tricky it's a tricky job, and you take it a chair

of thirty two when you can get it. But this year is seems like it's gonna going to be a very rough year for Arizona with Murray probably out at least until the midpoint of the season and maybe longer than that. Hopefully the Cardinals play this the right way and give Gannon a little bit of grace here to get the organization set up before Kyler comes back in full the season after but who knows. I don't know. It's hard to say what's going on with the Cardinals.

I know they've made some big changes now in the front office and obviously now getting the Kingsbury out of the building as well. Do I totally trust that organization to get things right. I can't say I do right now. I feel like trust. They always do these articles like which is the best job and the worst job, and I'd ever like that because it's impossible to figure out and they're all good jobs. But I think the Cardinals

is the hardest job. I think he'll have some rope because I think their roster is a bigger mess than the other four jobs that are available. Everything's wrong with that roster, almost like offensive line. The defense is a total disaster. Murray's hurt, like there's not much to build around. And he hired Eagles linebackers coach. Yeah, he hired Nick Rallis, who's twenty nine years old, as his defensive coordinator. That's cool. He's a defensive coach anyway, So I'm less focused on that.

The Browns quarterbacks coach Drew Pizzing is their new offensive coordinator, and he was a guy that like had some good buzz around the league as just like a smart young mind. So he might turn out to be a great coach. But he's a thirty five year old and that's a huge hire because Gannon is not an offensive guy. In other hiring news, the Colts finally finally completed their head

coaching search and Shane Steichen the Eagles offensive coordinator. So obviously, but Greg was saying about the Eagles, it's a big offseason at the replace both their coordinators. He takes over as the new head coach. Makes sense. He replaces Jeff Saturday, who was the ar interm coach. This is a team that ranked thirtieth and points per game, twenty seventh and offensive yards per game. The quarterback position was got awful mess. Jonathan Taylor was hurt all year, and now Staken is

asked to make things all better. Here's a little bit of Steakin's opening press conference remarks. Thank you to Nick Sirianni. I appreciate everything you've done as a head football coach. It was a pleasure to work with you again these past two seasons. It was a hell of a ride and one all chairs forever. But more importantly, the friendship that we've built over the last nine years. Thank you. Thank you to the players I've had the privilege to

be around and coach. Thank you to Philip Rivers. I can't say enough about how much you've had impact on me as a coach. So many great memories together and

couldn't be more thankful for our friendship. Thank you to Antonio Gates, Keenan Allen, Justin Herbert, and most recently, thank you to A. J. Brown, DeVante Smith, Quas Watkins, Zach Pascal, Scoddard, Stole, Brent Calcata, Miles Sanders, Boston, Scott, Kenny Gainwell, Jordan Malatta, Landon Dickerson, Jason Kelsey, Isaac Suamala, Lane Johnson, and Booked. Gardner better be on this list, but not least Jalen hurt.

Did he go off? And every single one of you guys, if you're not on the l I would not be sitting here today if it wasn't for you. It's all about the players, and it'll always be about the players. The sniffs were covering up the other players that he didn't answer, So I mean, I I think saying Gardner Minshew is the reason why he's there, is not true. So I think that this man is a wow. There you go. Now, I think it was emotional Dan leave him alone. I think leaving Quez out would have been fine.

You guys are brutal. I would have just named I'm angry. They had what like eleven Pro Bowlers, Like just named Pro bowlers. Oh well, he was naming the offensive guys. Yeah, you saw a lot. You know who reminded me of a little bit with Jamal Williams in the sense that, like he was incredibly emotional and I like that. And if you watch, if you continue to watch the press coffence, he's sort of pivoted to like a really hard driving, smaller Cessleian intensity, like behind the eyes, just like a

lot of intensity. So it went from like love which I like that is he's in touch with the emotions, but also the intensity of a football. So did he win the press conference? I liked it. I like there's so many parallels to Frank Reich with this hiring too. I mean, the Colts hire another Eagles offensive coordinator coming off a Super Bowl appearance, someone who has a rep for developing quarterbacks. And it's sort of funny that Stiken comes from working under Nick Sirianni, who came originally from

the Colts. So it's all so very kind of incestuous. But he'll be calling the plays for what quarterback who knows yet that's obviously of that needs to be as it's funny. He brought up Phil Rivers and I was like, we gotta get Phil back in the mix. I don't maybe not said Phil had a lot of mpoint. He used the word a lot of put into the hiring just because he was like, this guy, as much as any coach I've ever been with, is a genius in terms of he doesn't need the play sheet in front

of him. He can look at what's happening on the field. And then caught like for Phil Rivers to say that Jim Mersey said held a lot of weight, just like that. This guy really understands the quarterback position as much as anyone I've ever got to get like those sixteen kids out of elementary school. And maybe he'll come back. We'll see him on the sideline in a bolo tie. Um. All right, we're talking about the Super Bowl this year.

Last year Super Bowl, of course, the Rams were the champions and a lot of bad things have happened since then. Jalen Ramsey is one of their many high priced superstar players. In on Twitter, um he floated the idea and quickly deleted it that he could be traded like I won't be cut now traded I can't say, and then immediately deleted. But the Internet remember and then and Kevin demoff, our buddy, the c O of the Rams, spoke on Ramsey and

his future with Los Angeles. Jalin's been a huge piece of what we've done, and I think for all of our players, it's going to be about figuring out what's best moving forward. But when you were a team like the Rams who's had success, we have a lot of great players. People were always inquiring about our talent. And it's not just Jalen. We get calls on all of

our good players. H The brings to mind the famous Jamal Adams wanted out of New York because the phone was picked up when someone called the high ranking front office officials saying, hey, people are calling and we're answering the phone. Maybe it does happen. He didn't have a very good year this year, Greggy, I think he played a lot better down the stretch. I mean PFF would tell you that he was the second best cornerback in the league to Sauce. I think the last five or

six games he was pretty dominant. Not people weren't too locked into the eight rams under by then, but he but he's the first year didn't make the Pro Bowl. Yeah, and he gave up a lot of big plays. They have to do a lot. I think he'd have extremely high trade value, and he just feels like they don't

have a lot of moves. They're almost like an NBA team that it's like you only have so many assets at a certain point with the cap and this and that, and like they need to do a lot and they feel like maybe Ramsey, based on that answer, could be someone that gets them back into the draft mix that they can get a couple first back for him. What a plot twist that would be less neat acquiring draft

picks this time of year. You don't answer that question if you're dem off that way unless you're very comfortable with other teams. You know, you want to hear what other teams off. I like the Twitter recruitment too, like it's it's kind of spicy. I'm on ross at Brown is trying to get him to come to Detroit, and then Michael Parsons just like shot out, I'm sorry, no

one's going from LA to Detroit, right like? Yeah? Um, By the way, that was a Bridget Condon the interview with friend UH and a friend of the show at a RAMS event. Yes, the human bridgets are the ones we prefer. And we were at a Super Bowl event, Greggy, where Demof was nearby around We were belly up at a bar and tried to get his attention, couldn't get his attention, and I think, were you doing to try it again? And I was like, you're making this. I was like, is it because I had the RAMS Toulo

in the power rankings during the playoffs last year. This Kevin as he's still upset about it. It was a very crowded party and we were gonna go over and talk to him, and then then then we went and looked and he was gone. But I don't I don't remember any waving that you don't remember because it didn't happen. But I looked over at him and I was hoping we would make eye contact. It didn't happen. Sorry to

hear that. Yeah, And I took that personally little Michael Jordan uh In other news, Derek Carr, Derek Carr, how about that he's living the life right now because yes, the Raiders didn't want him, but a lot of other teams do And the nature of how this played out, he I liked how he played it. At the end. He met with the Saints and there was a framework of a trade, and then he went to the Raiders.

I don't know if this was done for revenge or just part of the game or whatever, but it's like, actually, no, I'm not going to accept a trade to New Orleans or anywhere else, so you have to release me Raiders, and which they did because there was going to be a major bonus coming a couple of weeks back. So now he's a free agent and it's incredibly nice set up for him, Connie, because all the other guys that are set to become free agents they have to wait

for the new league year. So he has this long runway where he is the bell of the ball. He has talked with the Saints, he met with the Jets this weekend. There's another team in the mix, Panthers maybe, But like Frank Reik, wasn't really he met at an Italian restaurant. My buddy Mike back in Jersey, lives in

Summits as a very nice restaurant. It was it was Sala, it was Joe Douglas, it was Derek Carr, and then David Carr's brother who once for he was the axis of a truce between around the NFL and Derek Carr who had once blocked us and no more. David Carr, who works for this network, talked about the process for Derek, and we knew he would love Robert Salo. I've known Robert for a while. M J knows Robert. He's fantastic and they hit it off and they would love to

work together. But there's a lot of questions that have to be ansked. I think the most important thing for him as a veteran quarterback, what is it going to be like as an offensive play caller and a quarterback in that relationship. Todd Downing is there, He has a relationship with Todd. Nathaniel Hackett is also there, So how does all that work? And they had a good chat. They talked about a lot of different things, and obviously the team is just a need of quarterbacks and some

stability there. They have a lot of good components. There's a lot of things that are very positive about the Jets.

He had a great trip, so that was un total access. Connie, like David Carr kind of interest interesting obviously his brother, former player himself, but now he's like brothers spokesperson in the media for this, which is kind of a funny, somewhat tricky thing to navigate because he's an analyst, and now I find myself hanging on every single word that he says, trying to analyze any little pause or inflection that he might have when he's talking about his brother's decision,

and it sounds like he's saying that he wants to take some time to make sure it's right. Obviously, it sounds like he wants to maybe go to the Jets because that would be a good fit for him, but the Jets are maybe waiting for Aaron Rodgers decision. That seems like the first domino that needs to fall before

any of this can be decided. But it's nice that Derek Carr has this time right now before any of the other free agents that he could sign with a team in theory and then take advantage of that time to recruit other free agents to come and then help him out as well, so he does have that luxury. But I guess everything kind of is just hinging on what Aaron Rod feels like. It feels like the Jets want to see if they get Rogers, and if they can't,

then maybe they'll go get Derek Carr. And I think that would probably be the best outcome for Derek Carr would be the Jets. I'm gonna I'm a little annoyed by what the Saints did bringing him in and then they asked him to take a pay cut. Like it's like, it's like it's a broke Bay behavior right there, broke franchise behavior. You got this salary cap issue that they always managed to finagle, and that they bring him in,

they wind him and dine him. They're like, if you were gonna just ask him to take a pay cut to make the trade happen the whole time, just wait until he gets cut, because you were miss totally misreading the market. I think they thought that he would be happy to like, Okay, you can come here and like get twenty million dollars or whatever. It's gonna be somewhere in between. Like a backup and like a real starter starter, And to me, that's totally misreading the market. Derek Carr's

gonna get paid. Derek Carr's maybe not gonna take any pay get at all. He might end up doing quite well in this scenario because there's only so many quarterbacks that are available. I don't think Gino's gonna be one of them. There's way more teams than there are quarterbacks right now, and I think Derek Carr is gonna be the number two guy behind Aaron Rodgers because I think Daniel Jones gets franchise tagged like and people are waiting

to see how all these things shake out. But if it's just Derek Carr and Jimmy g that are completely free and like Teddy and Dalton, all these other guys, like Derek Car's at the top of list, he's got He's gonna do fine. He's gonna make a lot of money. If you're deciding between Rogers and Car, I get it with the ceiling, but I think Car is also younger, he's cheaper. You wouldn't lose any draft picks at all, And who knows how much longer Aaron Rodgers is even

going to play for life is short though. I just feel like that Jeff Jets an kind of like let's live and let live. What can go wrong? He's not as good as Rogers. He's struggles in cold weather. He's a little bit sensitive, as we know, there are reasons. Uh, they're different types. I think Rogers is just like in

his own planet at this point. But I hung a little like emoji a bronze medal emoji over the Derek Carr story this weekend on Twitter, because I do want Rogers first, and then I'm not kicking the tires on Lamar. If that's a possibility, he would be my number two choice and then Car and I think this actually works out well for the Jets with Derek Carr taking his time, so it's given. It's giving opportunity for the Rodgers thing to play out, which is probably connected. So they don't

get forget Lamar. Put Lamar by the way number one with a bullet eye, get that wish list. I get that. I mean, what would are you saying what you think it should be or what do you think the Jets would choose? Because I think that kind of feeling that they would be like fall in love with the idea of Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback. Not saying it's the right move, but I think, yeah, I think if Lamar was available, I think that the compensation involved with all

this stuff matters too. Like if if Rodgers is like a first and the Jets get a fourth back or something, and and Lamar is like three first or two first and a second, that matters too to me a little bit. It's interesting. Yeah, let's move on. It's all gonna play out maybe right pretty soon. Yeah, February twenty first, By March twenty first, all these quarterbacks will have new homes, all the major free agents will be done with. It's

all gonna happen pretty quick. Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, Bob mcgin now Bob McGain for years covered the Packers for The Sentinel over there and uh he's also known um widely for his draft coverage and he u spoke about Aaron Rodgers and the Packers and their relationship and McGinn, who is plugged in Greggy, says he believes that Green Bay is quote done with Aaron Rodgers and Jordan's love

will be the team starter in twenty twenty three. He added that the team is quote disc gusted with Rogers, and they feel that he didn't put enough effort leading into the twenty twenty two season. Maybe at the reason why, like Lamar, like at this point, Lamar's it is prime, I would yeah, well, Lamark, well he's got injuries. It's it's a kind of a tricky decision. There's layers to it. Anyway, Um, I know we trust McGinn. Greg. This kind of is in conflict with a prediction you had a couple of

weeks ago. I think I think you were saying Rogers will ultimately go back. In your mind, do you still feel that way or do you think this is heading towards divorce? Bill? Now, I feel that a divorce is happening. I mean McGinn knows certainly a lot better than I do. And I think Jordan's Love is a quarterback they actually want to see play, that they're excited about him, that they think he got better. McGinn even threw it out there that if Rogers insisted on returning, they'd make him

the back up to Love. That story that's like almost as a funnishment that beautifully Yeah, he would go into a seventy year darkness retreat and so you will pay me anyway. I think they But if if they were ready to move on with him, they would act like how they've acted. They're not gonna say they're disgusted with him. They're just gonna stay quiet about it and see what the best offers. Unless they're telling McGain this to put it out there, and then I don't I don't think

so in this case, I can't. I can't see that they would want this out there. He just says he's not coming back. He said based on everything he knows about the team is experience. And then people who would be in a position to know that, they're just like they're ready, they're ready for a new start, just like they were all those years ago when the same exact

thing happened with with bred Farvan Aaron Rodgers. It's really crazy, wild, and it would make sense with all the flowery pieces that are coming out about Jordan Love and how impressed they are with him and everything else. I think this is happening. I think he's gonna be on the Jets now. I'm kind of didn't you do put a sandwich on it? Because I don't know. I don't see another team that's like just gonna jump up and make this all happen

as quickly and easily as the Jets. I just think the Jets are going to be that team like the Panthers. But he's gonna want to go somewhere Scene ten, like he wants to go somewhere with like some juice. Um. Daniel Jones had a nice transition. Daniel Jones had a

nice ending to the twenty twenty two season. Um, I don't know my radars just up on this one a little bit, but really cutting down on his mistakes and it was a better player and better coaching of Ryan Dable made him a pretty solid starter for the Giants and they had a surprising lee effective season. Made it's the second round of playoffs and all that. Now he's a free agent because they declined the option, the fifth year option before last season. The new leadership. He is

changing agencies. He's switching agents. He wants up to forty five million dollars a year. Daniel Jones reportedly, I question why this would get out there. It would probably come from the agent that he fired. Yes, that like this is how unreason listen, I would you don't have to put a reporter, I'll say it, I would like forty five million dollars a year. Yeah, um reportedly Like it's I'm sure that's what he wants. Whether he gets it or not, one, let's go, let's just put it out

there into the universe. Yes, the franchise tag would cost the non exclusive tag would cost the Giants just over thirty two million UM. So that's where things aren't it? Is it heading that way? Greg? Is that? What was this heading towards franchise tag? And is that what does that mean for Saquon Barkley, who's also a free agent with the Giants. Yeah, there's like a lot of like New York Post articles it's like, oh, this Daniel Jones

is getting too big for his pitches, you know. It's like he's just trying to get Yeah, he's just trying to get money. And it is interesting that he would

fire his agents. But I just think he was always going to be headed to the franchise tag in my mind, that the Giants were gonna see if he would sign sort of an in between like Ryan Tannehill Derek Carr type of deal, because if he was with like maybe two to three years of guarantees they would sign him if he wanted that, and that is a risk that he's passing on let's say, seventy eighty million dollars guaranteed, but they aren't going to give him the big one,

and otherwise they're happy to give him the tag. And I think that's what's going to happen. Yeah, I mean, clearly to me, he wanted more money than CIA was able to get for him, and so that's why he's going to athletes first, and that's why CIA probably leaked this. But I mean, it's it's interesting that he's switching agents at this point. I don't know where they're gonna go with this, if they're gonna end up tagging him or not, but it feels like to me, he's not going to

get the money that he wants. They're probably gonna tag him, and then sa Kuan's gonna walk. Kind of lets them not give Saquan the contract that I don't think they want to give him anyways. Right, you know, if I was starting my own agency, I was thinking, like, do I like the name athletes first? It's fine, but I would call it people first, because they're more than just that. And then and then and then you kind of just

elbow drop off the top turnbuckle your rival. Oh, athletes firsts taking a big Yeah, they take a dirt nap. And then you know, if you're looking to choose, like you know, oh, am, I just a player, Like no, I'm a person. I go to people first. She thought, I think it's a beautiful but would human first be better? Well, then you get a little I don't know, Okay, humans first. Would you rather have Daniel Jones h or Derek Carr? If you were ranking a top one hundred and one

free agents? The player or the human the player? Who would you rather sign it? Would you rather have in a vacuum on a list that I'm writing? Uh, I'm sorry, Daniel Jones or Derek Carson. Oh I love this exercise. Yeah, I thought a lot about it a lot yesterday. I guess I'm gonna say Derek Carr because again, watching all the Giants games there was that was kind of a nice ending to the season for Daniel Jones, But he was kind of just Daniel Jones to me for most

of the year before that. He also didn't have any receivers, that's the thing. Okay, but he had a better thing. Derek Harton has never had a defense, So I feel like these the two quarterbacks have dealt with I would take I know Cars older, but car is still pretty young.

He's still thirty one against thirty too soon, but it's a good one where you leaning right now, I'm back to Jones, but I've gone back and forth just because I feel like there might be another level he can get to um and I think they're both at a very similar not replacement level starting quarterback. But that that kind of like Dalton scale right around the line, right, maybe like right, a little bit of the middle, middle,

lower of the path. And that's why you want to be an NFL starting quarterback, because just being a little bit better than average gets you thirty five to fourty five million dollars. That's why he's not getting the forty five though, Like I don't I don't think he would have that sort of market from other teams either. All right, let's take a break and then right, I would put humans no no, no, no, no no no, pull the plug.

This is not good. This is not good. Eventually that plug is not going to be This is what Bridget did. The tank, the tank in your forearm. It's healing up nicely. No, it is. I have a like a what's it called the fang tooth. I have the fang tooth mark there. Yeah, that's cool. So the saddest part about this whole thing, though, is because you know, Connie's a dog lover, and we were out celebrating West a couple of weeks ago right in Culver City and there's a lot of dogs around.

And then seeing you, now, man, I know, once a great lover of dogs, and you still are, but now afraid of the dogs. Understandably, it's sad I've taken any else. Do you have to bring up everything? I love dogs. She doesn't need this still there, but I am quite terrified. I went to a party, a house party, um on Saturday night, and they had a quite big dog there, and the dog came up to me and and it

was just like what happened at Christmas. There was a lot of people there and the dog came up and started sniffing me, and I my hair on the back of my neck was just standing on end like, and I had chills and I wanted to like run the other bridget. But we're good. We're good sometimes it's good to talk about it. Maybe this is like the most Jewish thing about me. I'm marrying it out. You talk it out, break talk, you talk breaking bread O. Good. Yeah,

I've been sitting shiva the past week. So is there anything else about Kyleen's life that you want to get into? Well, you know, the personal to the listener, they really appreciate that we share everything. Um, living with me, my dog, my puppy, the cap yeah. Um, like it's not it's not edge, it's the edge. It's to be captain. Okay, he's a little nippy, he's got the puppy nips. Yeah, they're different. So I'm gonna keep you clear of him, and I'm gonna train him, um with very uh like

gannon like ferocity. Okay, that's good. Puppy puppy nips are different though, because they have like the teeny tiny little sharp teeth and like they hurt, but they're not scary. They're not gonna like maul your arm. Yeah. Sometimes I get a little puppy nip, Like I'll be on a run and these little an I've had two different puppy nips in the last like two years, and I'm just like get control of your little I mean they're on a leash, but they're just they're just so you are

you coming in maybe a little too tight. There's traffic and stuff, but no, I mean I'm trying to go out to the grass and they're on the sidewalker used to hate when we would walk our dogs in Santa Monica and someone would come up running behind them because Dasher's a little bit of a headcase. And it was always like a little like, oh my god, I don't do anything either. I don't anything. Just gives it a little nudge. I give the owner a little luck afterwards,

just like, come on, Greg's barking, WTF. So you're running, you turn around and like give like a WTF look and then keep going. Yeah. Nice. It's just kind of like, are you all on the left? Gun your love? Yeah? No, how about you you become it's a kitchen like this is. I try to stay away with sometimes you can't. All right, we'll be right back, all right, welcome back. Let's uh wrap this up, um little O C D C section

of the news. Eric b Enemy does the thing that I think he had to do obviously where he is in his coaching career, he wants to be a head coach, and UM, you know, they're different factors involved in this, UH, some more upsetting to discuss than others. But one of the UH factors here is Eric bi Ennemy being the OC in Kansas City when Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback and Andy Reid is the primary play caller. Um, he just wasn't going to get a big chair out of this.

He wasn't going to get the promotion so many other ocs get when they're connected to a big time team. So he leaves that setting and goes and takes a job with the Commanders as their new offensive coordinator. UM. Your thoughts on that, Connie? I hate that he had to move to hopefully one day get the elevated job that he deserves. But I'm happy that he did it

and he's taking that chance. I think it's a bummer that he had to leave a successful organization that recent memory and leaving a spot like that and making a lateral move and the and obviously the other side of this is the NFL has a very bad history recent history as well, not just extended history of black head coaches getting opportunities as head coaches and that's been part of the conversation around beyond me for I feel like years now years, and you like the thing of being

under Andy Reid is like that is what usually guarantees you a job, right, Like Brad Childress gets a job, Matt Naggie gets a job. Look at all the years from Sean McVay and all of his assistants that got jobs. Right, But really, even specifically, it has had so many now you know, it's upsetting, It's tricky. Like Bomani Jones, I've heard him talk about it that sometimes focusing on B Enemy specifically is is almost a fool's erin because like,

maybe there is something specific to Eric B Enemy. He's had all these opportunittunities for whatever reason, and that focusing on that. It's a a league which hires white guys on offense in general and nepotism and what can you can do structurally like that that's a better thing to focus on than just specifically B Enemy. But it is crazy because I just feel like if he goes to Washington and their offense is awesome, he's gonna get a job. So it's like, yeah, right, I guess that time. But

even that is like, is weirdly embarrassing? It is. It's weird. It's unusual the way it all played out. And speaking of the Commanders, Ron Rivera said that Sam Howell, their second year quarterback, will quote start out as QB one heading to the offseason. Greg. That strikes me as classic offseason pre free agency draft hokum, the incoming guy that's still on the depth chart. He's our guy. I feel very strongly they will come out of this with a veteran starter or or I guess a high draft pick.

That's where I said, I don't think how sniffs the Week one job personally. Personally, they've come out so hard with this that I think there's a chance. Really yeah, so I think they are really saying we are not gonna be in the big kids pool for these quarterbacks. We're not in the Derek Carr, Aaron Rodgers pool or else. They've come out strong, like multiple times saying this. Howell did look very intriguing in that Week eighteen game, and they did see him for the whole season in practice.

Now he's like a later round pick, so that's surprising. But he's also as a guy that at one point people thought would be a top ten pick, and he does have incredible skills as a runner and like as a big arm. So it's like it's not that crazy. I could see them signing like a teddy type and making Howell the likely the one just because they've come out Why has he come out so hard? Saying this over and over? He said it like in multiple different

interviews in different ways. That's I feel like anytime that it's this time of year, and the harder they go in on, the more unlikely it is that that player is going to be in the spot that they're here. I'm usually with you, but it's usually with someone they feel like they owe something to or that was a high pick, and so they're just saying it to like playcate this guy's ego or just to like throw people off the set. But why would they be doing that

with Sam Howell? I don't know. I want to go back through like old shows and see this time of year and see from like the news and stuff, because I have a bunch of stuff saved, and just see all of the different examples. Yeah this has happened. Yeah, this is a good example. This one we shall say.

I think about what was it I talked about it with Mark a bunch of time in our early Around the League blog days before the then Redskins drafted Robert Griffin the third uh Mike Shanahan finally famously came out and said that he was completely comfortable with Rex Grossman and John Beck as our He'll stake his career, he said, on these two men going forward, and then they go and trade their entire draft basically to get a rookie quarterback, right, I wouldn't I wouldn't call it like a lie if

they end up going to a different director. It just feels like this is how He was just very specific about the veteran part of it, and so that just told me that I don't think they're going to get into the Lamar Aaron Rodgers, Gino, Daniel Jones, Derek Carr area of the pool. Yeah, it's gonna be like a Jake brisket, or it's gonna be a rookie. Maybe. Maybe they're throwing people off the scent and the end, which

is kind of their brand. They like to get like the mid tier starter on somewhat of a discount and hope they catch lightning in the bottle. Perhaps they'll do it again for Here's the thing though, sam Al could be a real thing. I know not many people watch that game, but he was very intriguing in that game, and he has an intriguing skill set that uh no one less than a spice rack. Our friend Brad Spicer

believes Peppermill believes in the fifth round. But he was Here's the thing though, he was kind of supposed to be like a lot of people had him as a lot of people had him as a better prospect than almost anyone in that class. Light Falls. It was a bad QB class on top would party situation where he just surprises everyone, That's would be a great news for Washington. It would be uh speaking, you mentioned Matt Nagy, the former Bears coach. He is expected to replace Eric Enemy

as the OC in Kansas City. All right, let's see the Ravens hire Todd Monkin as their oc uh formerly of the Bucks. The Bucks hired Gino whisperer. Dave Canals is their OC. Frank Reich hires Thomas Brown as oc um, and Jim Caldwell, Josh McCown, Do Staley and Connie your good friend d Hall also on that staff. Quite a staff there, Josh McCown, Douce Staley, d Hall, Thomas Brown was the Rams assistant at coach who a lot of people thought very highly of. I want them to be

on hard knocks. Yeah, that could be a fun one. Do Staley. I know, I'm surprised. Why did he leave? I don't know. Wait a second, I'm just realizing that. Yeah, yeah, he was a he was so great on hard knocks and he was a very you know, m Well, let's see, he was the he was an off assistant coach and the running backs coach, and maybe with Ben Johnson having that big year and Dan Campbell being establisher, maybe he wants to find his own niche. I don't know Campbell.

Campbell had made some changes on that staff. I don't think he was gonna fire do Staley. But usually when there's like a lateral move, it's something where Staley's got a relationship with Reich. I'd rather be with him. But also that the other staff maybe like he's not he's not feeling himself, like for instance, this isn't in this news. And we can circle back if you wanted to any of those. But like the Chargers defensive coordinator Ronaldo Hill

left to go work under Vic Fangio in Miami. Even though that's not even a lateral move, it actually seems like going down unusual. I was going to mention that, but I think it's just like he likes working for Vic. He probably did not like working for Brandon Staley and it just wasn't a math. That was My first instinct was like, man, that's not the greatest look for for Brandon Saley that your DC takes a demotion to leave

the team. I mean, the most direct path to become a head coach, and that's the dream of so many of these guys to be a coordinator and then you jump up. It doesn't have to be that way. Guys get head coach jobs all the time, not in the DCoC chair. But it's the most traditional next step to leave that position and go down a notch. That's interesting

to me. It tells me a little bit greggy about what internally some of the coaching staff feels about where Staley is as a coach, where that organization could be in the near future, and the culture. I mean, think about anywhere that you've worked before that has like a toxic environment. It's just it's not helpful at all. It's not fun to be around. It's no one likes to be in that. So and that is a component. Then

it makes complete sense. And yeah, it might be taking it too far to believe that it was toxic or anything like that. He might have been losing his job. Do Staley might have been losing his job. And it's a close knit coaching community and they try to avoid firing if at all possible. So if you can get another job elsewhere, then it's like you never have to announce the firing. They're all from the same staff Staley or from the same tree. Staley used to work for

Fangio two. So but he also he also is like it is you're actually everybody you're saying is also worth considering. You're absolutely right. But it is interesting when that the jump without there being a firing involved or a contract lapsing involved, goes, you know, you go down the ladder a nunch. Yeah, yeah, and it's interesting. And you mentioned Fangio. He is hired by the Dolphins as their DC. He's sixty four years old. He's very good at that job.

And Miami's defense took a step back once Flora's exited last years. That's a good hire for the Dolphins. I don't want the Dolphins to take the next step as a jets in, but I feel like their defense will be better with the vic there. That was a great hire. He was spitting fire too on his opening press coot. He's like, yeah, like Bradley Chubb, like like Jalen Phillips. We'll see, like they have potential, but they got to

show what they're doing. It's like he just gave Bradley Chubb one hundred million dollar contract and he used to be your player. Didn't play that well for Fanjo. It's like he's already getting into uh fights. The one thing, the most interesting one of Canalis will be interesting for the Bucks. He was the quarterback coach with Seattle. We don't really know, but Monkin's been around, big play guy. Uh you know was was in college. Was the Georgia

offensive coordinator, big vertical throw offense. How that mixes with Lamar. It's certainly a different type of offense if Lamar is there then than the one they've had. Uh. Let's let's wrap things up with Connie Little odds and ends hit it odds and ends odds and ends, say, everybody tell your friends odds and ends. Oh it took four years. Did you even know that that was coming? Nollers are bothering me? So my singing voice is just not here today?

Or is it? That was like Jordan, like the one game right when he came back for the Wizards, he put up like forty and then he was never good again. But let's cut that for the Connie Bot because she's never gonna do better than that one. I wasn't sure to really start in, but we got there. Guys nailed it all right. Our buddy Aaron Jones, who was on the around the NFL Super Bowl shows from media row,

he will be back in Green Bay. He will attempt to set the all time rushing record for the Packers, which I told him is about two and a half seasons away if he stays healthy. He takes a haircut, Connie, but he's back in Green Bay. Rex Ryan, Rex Ryan, He's what's he doing? Spend at ESPN the last few years doing the Sunday morning show, but it's like, you know, Rex should be on the sideline. Guess what he's interviewing with the Denver Broncos about their vacant DC job. We'll

see if that turns into something. And by the way, Sean Payton, Sean Payton, the connection, you know he did, he did the TV they're veterans. Uh. You know, Fox sent out an awkward tweaking naked right now without the afternoon Delight. I feel like we need afternoon Delight down all right, Okay, there we go. Sorry. Uh? And uh, Mike west Off our buddy, our friend the uh just put out a book talking about I had a legendary career as special Teams on the goat. Um. He was

on our show last summer. His little exer for him to write a letter like that was totally inappropriate. So I blew up. That's West up burying Bill Parcels on our podcast. He's the special team's coach over there. Now, that's awesome. West off his back. Uh. And Matt Ryan greggy. Uh, this makes so much sense to me. I could picture Matt Ryan in a suit, a little bit stiff, delivering very you know, solid, if not spectacular analysis in a booths. People said he was good. He was on a pregame show.

I don't even remember which one it was. I didn't see it. The rich Man's Trent Green perhaps, right, I think maybe like the new rich Gannon, who I always thought was good, who had good solid quarterback takes Matt Ryan. Every time I've interviewed him, he's been fantastic. Okay, he might might be better than we're giving him credit for.

Well maybe maybe. I just I'm picturing it, and it makes sense that he's in a food and it kind of and quietly that, oh, that means he's retiring, by the way, the whole police, they have to retire, they have to release him. By the way, Um, buddy will he joined the Hall of Fame with Tom Brady. But man, oh, Darlin's broke his heart. Probably not definitely, not not a first year ago. I think Matt Ryan, who is Matt

Ryan Hall Famer. We'll get to it. He's gonna retire, so um and finally um and that's odds and ends. Usually Connie and that's you know, that's odds and ends. Usually kind of we end with the song as well. But you just nailed it exactly. I imagine not hitting it on that. I can't imagine it. I've done it many times, so you don't need more disappointment. Let's just let's just let it let it be. Yeah, you did it.

Um and and finally before we say goodbye. Um. We talked about a few weeks back, Grave Digger, the the idea, you know, because Jim Gray has a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and you know, Gray has had a tremendous career in broadcasting. But like, you know, okay, Jim Gray's got a star, so what about us? Can we get a star around the NFL on the Hollywood Walk of Fame? And uh, and you did some digging on this one, and where are we at on the

atn star. They are eagerly awaiting a forty thousand dollars check, So if anyone wants to make you have to be approved first though, yea, even the approval before the money. Are we approved? I guess? Is the question has anyone applied? Yeah, it has an application been submitted. It's we'll call it in process. I think it is probably the best way to describe that part of it. But yeah, yeah, that

sounds like right now, what's happening? Process? Let's get on this green processing sort of like the whole guy thing, is a lot of approval process. It has to be oh, yeah, right, it takes six eight weeks the process. Yeah, And just to make it clear to our audience, not that I feel like there's been any rush to do so. This is not a go fund me situation or anything like that. We do not want any fundraiser from the audience on

this one. We want it to get to a point where the Hollywood Walk of Him comes to us and says, hey, this one's on us. Join Hollywood Boulevard. All right, good update, good update. Oh congratulations by the way to our buddy Matt Schneider, shadowy league figure himself extraordinarire, a good man, a father once again, a boss to a beautiful, healthy baby girl. That's great. So congrat to match Schneider and well especially his wife. Yeah, the mom does deserve. Really

the congratulations keep going. I'm just saying I've been through this twice myself, and it's like, congratulations. Dan is like, well, I didn't do anything, really, I mean, you know, months earlier. Yes, I played a role, but the mother deserved. Why am I talking just digging a grave? Yes, congrats to his wife Nicole for doing the hard work, and congrats to sky Avery Schneider. I like that. I like that name job two kids under two, that's uh, that's a lot

of work. I have no idea what that's like. You do, go what that's like? Don't you what don't you You have sibling that's close in age? Right? No? Oh no, all right, where are let's let's send this thing. We're not getting sharper in the episode. I've never changed a diaper in my life, Like, I don't know anything about kids. Thank you, Thank well, go over and this is sky um. Thank you everybody for listening. We'll be back Thursday. Until then, Hed the call