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More Free Agent Moves; Teams That Still Have Work To Do

Mar 22, 20211 hr 10 min
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A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler bring you all of the latest news in the NFL after a wild free agency frenzy. Kenny Golladay has a new home with the Giants (7:01), Juju Smith Schuster is staying in Pittsburgh on a one year prove it deal (12:45), and the Broncos add a new CB (30:32). Chris Carson stays in Seattle (39:40) and DeSean Jackson is heading to the Rams (43:40). The NFL has a big new TV deal (45:53) and the heroes spin through some 8 o’clock delight (51:12). Lastly, we close the show with a short segment called “Teams that Still Have Work to Do” (56:21).

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Be Around the NFL Podcast. Here's the face uporn hoole in America. Yeah, we'll take it. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan hand As. I come to you from a virtual room filled with sub heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenhal and you know, certainly there are far better cornhole players and myself from Greg and certainly Mark Um, that's fired Um. And even West Uh as great as West was as a cornhole player.

When I watched the Cornhole UH Championship tournaments on ESPN two, as I sometimes sadly do, and I would text Wes about that on occasion, Hey West, it's on ESPN two. It was never like, oh, let me go flip it on. It was like, oh cool. Like even West wasn't on board with watching cornhole on television. But the level of gil for the greater corn hole community, the true elites, is absurd that they'll go, you know, the two guys side by side and they'll just throw eight bags in

a row in the hole. And I just want to say, um that in terms of underrated hand eye coordination and feats of greatness and athletics, athletics being able to go four in a row in the hole in corn is to me right up there on the other top of

the list. I don't care what anybody says. I think that's both right and also not right, because I do think it's something like free throw shooting that if if a ton of people just practiced it NonStop, then a decent chunk of those people can get really really good at Cornell in a way that you could not, like, you know, dunking of basketball, no matter how much you practice, Like those guys have so many reps, you gotta give them a little, a little. And I know you guys

think that I'm ultra apathetic, and largely I am. But there was there is one cornhole incident that um, I still think about probably weekly, and it was at when we the four of us went down for West's bachelor weekend, um at a questionable Airbnb. I would say it was

a It had some pluses of minuses. I know you're you're up in arms about it, but um, we played a lot of corn hoole, and I was teamed with West and I was determined to put my best foot forward, and we were on the brink of knocking Dan and Greg out and I, honestly, I do you remember this. I had played pretty well, I had held my own like it was not an embarrassment, and I actually had

a few money shots. But there was a final showdown in which suddenly I had the skill of a newborn and was flinging like the the the the bags like to and fro off the board and we crumbled in the final eight minutes. And it's set me to this moment and this time around, I do accept the music because it was something that I was at. Yeah, I do remember that. I remember of that you did. You

put forth a really fine performance. I mean Mark wants a big pad on the back because he kept it close while he was partnered with you know, the most experienced guy there. And let's come down. Well, no, I it wasn't like typically It's like West hits nineteen out of twenty shots, and I go, I maybe like hit the board once. I held my own this time, and

had we won, you would have heard about it. It saved you some trouble because you would have heard about it five to six hundred times a month, since um, fair enough and yes, West, you could throw the hell out of those bags. And Nick Westling by the way, and you know we talked about it last week, uh, the corn hole showdown that you know, there are different viewpoints and how it went down and may have nineteen

at Western Lucush's wedding. Uh, he sent me a simple text two words based on how I told the story revisionist history, to which I say, all right, well, let's let's see what happens when we all get back on the island together. Okay, And let's get on the island and let's play and let's settle this for real Westling right. But I but I agree with his point though. It's like you've you've erased the past and turn it into a future challenge, as if the playing field is level,

which is not. It's not accurate. It's we've got a great We've got a great picture out of it, you and and Nick both wearing tuxedos, throwing the bags. You know, it was nice. All right. We are a week out almost um from the start of the new league year, and this is now We're now deep, I would say,

Greg into the second wave of free free agency. Um. As the final big names came off the board, it felt at the end of the week and over the weekend, we're gonna get to all of that, and then we're also going to take another look at where we're at with available free agents. As you know, some teams I would imagine start are starting to turn their attention to the draft in a in a big way. So, yes, that's where we are at the stage of the league calendar, and uh, why don't we see where we are in

the old our league hit the news? Ricky is a level up in my in my heart deeply just understanding what he brings. It's a level up tough sits there. I don't know if you guys are tracking this story. So that was Michael Brocker's. Uh. Then a RAMS star asked about the trade of Matthew Stafford to l A and uh in exchange for Jared Goff, and he he told t MZ that, oh, clearly Matthew Stafford level up,

level up. And then Michael Brockers gets traded to the Lions, the team where Jared Goff plays quarterback, and he today, just today TMZ had an update that Lions Michael Brocker's apologize as to teammate Jared Goff after shot at QB. I mean, talk about your all time backfires. He tried, he tried to make it so, and even Goff at the answer and be like, no, it's all cool, and Bracker's was like, yeah, I explained to him, I was just hyping up our new uh our our new situation.

He gets how it is, and it's like, now re listening to him actually say, that's not really what he was doing. He was just being real. It was a level up where you don't get a sense that they were like super tight friends who always had each other's back. If that quote came out at all, you wouldn't imagine one of us doing that to each other in a public sphere, had had we shifted from one show to another, you know, back on this show. You know, he thought he was safe, he thought he was in the clear.

Can make a statement like that, and he got banged in the biggest of all spots, like Jared Goff himself, by the way, because I look at it and we're just about we're about to talk about Kenny Golladay who's no longer a member of the Lions, and we also know that Marvin Jones, the great underrated receiver uh no longer with the Lions. Perriman's in the house um late starters Tyrrell Williams another team that was another player who

was cast off by his previous team. Those are the top two receivers, with seventy four year old Danny Ammond Dole in the slot. I guess he's a free agent too, I believe. I don't think he's been signed. So yeah, you still got Hockinson. It's not a great it's not a great, not a great group, tough situation for golf. And then he's got people in the media and his own head coach and his old teammates have become his teammates all bagging on him. It's it's a trying time

for Mr Goff. All right, let's get into it, starting with Kenny Golladay, who entered a wide receiver free agent market that wasn't too kind of many of his contemporaries, but it all worked out for him because he signs a four year, seventy two million dollar contract um with the New York Giants. Uh and there's forty million and guaranteed money, and that is big. That's a big payday,

especially in this market. Mark Sessler and I know last week on one of our programs where we're talking to microphones. You were lamenting the Giants and their strategies in terms of team building. To me, this feels like a great signing for New York and it really gives them their first true number one receiver since O'Dell was traded a

couple of years back. Yeah, and you look at you get se Kwon, Barkley back, healthy, um sterling Shepherd, Darius Slayton, Evan Ingram, Kyle Rudolph is depth in my book, I don't know. But but if you're Daniel Jones, um, it is a huge season you're rolling into because if he crumbles, uh, he's out. So you can't. You can't. My issue was more with Daniel Jones, with sitting pat at that quarterback situation. I get it like they invested a lot and they're

not ready to jump ship on that. But he's sort of run out of um, you know, lingering excuses even last year could say without se Kwan and stuff around them, maybe, but it Um, he isn't a quarterback that I would view as someone that, hey, everyone around him is better because Daniel Jones is here. It's like, can this guy keep on hold of the ball? He's a turnover machine. Um, he's got to work on his own game and make

use of Kenny Galladay. I mean, you could argue that it's not a great landing spot for Kenny Golladay if this offense continues to look stuck in the mud with Jason Garrett Collin plays that said. I do think that the Giants went for it. They got the best wide receiver on the market, and so critique off and let's see how it goes. Well, it wasn't wasn't cheap. It's funny. I saw some smart people saying, these wide receivers better take these these deals quickly because this money, the big

money is not happening for you. And we saw a couple of them did. We'll get to him, Juju will fuller. But Galad I got that full money. He he this is a real deal. Forty million guaranteed, really a fifty four year, fifty four million dollar contract over the first three years. That's top shelf money. I love it for Daniel Jones. I think he's played a little bit better

than people give them credit for. And I do think, uh that the excuses that you can make for him are enormous because I think it's not the weapons, just the weapons and the run first approach with a bad running game. It's one of the worst offensive lines in the league. And I've been hard on Sam Donald and I think he probably deserves a little more leeway because of the offensive line. It's not about the weapons. Those two guys were protected as poorly as any two quarterbacks

in the entire league. Joe Burrow I would throw in there too, and so they haven't fixed that. So I'm still a little worried. But I do like Shepherd and Ingram, s Quan's back and Gola Day. It feels like at least you've got a team here, we might uh see what Daniel Jones has and be a little more fun

to watch. I would do. I would ask you a question, Greg, because I remember after the Primetime game where Daniel Jones had and Stumble, well you were well, I mean, I was almost surprised with how strongly you buried the concept of Daniel Jones sort of evolving into anything where I think, if anything, I was probably more saying I still see things him and I do here and there. It's just

never a lot of complete games. So did something happen down the stretch with Daniel Jones that changed your opinion. Did well. He was hurt too. I do think he played better down the stretch. That's part of it. I think I was a little emotional because I've been in on Jones. I like watching him play, and maybe and I do think, you know, maybe the ceiling for him isn't like top shelf, but I do think he played

better down the stretch. To answer that he had a leg in or A big part of his game is his mobility and his speed, and you kind of stripped that away from him down the stretch last season. And he obviously didn't have a true number one wide receiver. You didn't have se Juan Barley Barkley for the whole season, and Golladay that's top shelf money because he's a top shelf player. He's a true number one wide receiver and smack in the middle of his prime. And you mentioned Sandarnald.

This is what I had hoped for for him. I had hoped that in the time that he had his UH three years as a starter, at some point they surrounded him with a true number one wide receiver, for instance, Um and that never happened. And so I think with

the Giants. They set themselves up well here to get one last look at Jones with a really good, uh set of playmakers around him, and then if if he doesn't play well, then you there's no questions and maybe you draft someone at quarterback if you like someone this year as well. But uh, I think this is a really smart move for them. It'll be interesting to see, um if Jones play does take a step in yours while we're on the Giants. I do want to throw

and that. I thought it was interesting they signed Mike Glennon, not because I'm a Mike Glennon fan, just because it just shows where Daniel Jones is compared to the Drew Locks or the Donald certainly of the world, Like they just signed like a full on backup that they're that's not going to remotely compete with Dana Jones. You mentioned Juju Smith Schuster and he is staying in Pittsburgh. This went down on Friday. It's a one year, eight million

dollar contract and uh, Juju. Obviously, I don't think he was expecting Kenny Gollada Kenny Golladay money necessarily, but he's certainly thinking he was going to get a rich multi year deal. After the first four years of his career

in Pittsburgh, the market wasn't too hot. Uh So he goes back to Pittsburgh on a one year, eight million dollar deal, approve a deal essentially and one um that um really works out well for the Stealers, Let's be honest, because I think they had resigned themselves to losing um juju. And according to reports, Mark he left some money on the table to stay in Pittsburgh. The Ravens were among

the teams that were interested in bringing him in. The Ravens part um would have been juicy, But I don't think that's if you're on a one year prove it deal. I'd be hard pressed to find a team in the a f C that I would that I would find more of a The results could be so variable than going to Baltimore. Maybe would work out, maybe they would um open up that passing game a little bit more, but it's certainly risky. Why not go back to a system,

into teammates and environment that you know so well. I mean, you take all those ex factors out and you go play the best version of yourself next season, And I think, you know, maybe this is a player that lost a little bit of potential money here and there, or suitors based on the whole Juju experience, which, um, you know,

I get it. The Browns is the Browns. The dancing on the logo and that's you know, that's fine, but there's tons of players doing that and if anything like while that maybe heated me up a little bit um before the Browns week, and I think that actually affected

that game. I really do. But I would say this like like a d D for instance, who is around the Steelers all the time, and other people who are around Juju do also talk about him as one of the hardest working, best prepared guys who works on his game tirelessly. So I don't think it's a character issue at all. I think it's just that, you know what, there's most reporters are in their thirties, forties and fifties, and your players are in their twenties, and they're like TikTok.

The idea of TikTok maybe a noise um even people like me at times, But I think there's very good things on TikTok. If you take a look, if you can find things you like, um, I would just say, what are you into a lot of corners, a lot of categories, and you know, I just there's there are things to look into. I'll leave it at that. But um, I don't I think Juju has landed in the correct place.

I like it. Yeah, seven catches eight hundred and thirty one yards less season, which is a truly bizarre stat line. And I think that hurt his market and depressed his value as well, because it reinforced this notion that Smith Schuster is not a true playmaker. He's a grinder. He's a tough guy that will do the hard work, but he's not going to be somebody that can light up a team for fifteen hundred yards in a season. But that's not quite fair either, because he did that once

apot a time about two years ago. Um. I think it's a great set up um for the Steelers. Now we just gotta see if he has a quarterback that can get him the ball. It's funny though, Antonio Brown was kind of right about Juju when he really slammed him. He's like, that boy is not that guy is not a number one. And think the two years since the league agrees with Antonio Brown and sort of the Steelers do too. Guys who played the slot and are rugged and tough over the they don't tend to get paid.

Guys on the outside get paid. That said, I look at some of the contracts signed, Corey Davis is with the Jets and Nelson Aguilar with the Patriots being the ones that stand out. I'd rather have Juju than either of those players for sure. Definitely more than all who had played a lot in the slot and got sixteen guaranteed, you know, two for twenty. I don't know, but Juju would be a great fit with the Patriots. By the way, I wonder if they just never thought his price would

get this Patriots. He is though he's a throwback in terms of the way he played in his perfect world. He is an Edelman Welker type. That's what I'm trying to say. I'm just saying the things that Mark was

alluding to. That feels like something that maybe Bill what Okay, that's that's and that a signing has been I mean, that is getting killed by pe Well at this point for being a jump quick paid too much for a guy with questions of his own on the that one, and I would say Davis too, but Agil are even more so looks worse after the Juju and the Fuller signings that they look worse. I don't know what it would have taken, because the Jets talk to Shoot Smith

Schuster as well. Would I'd rather have Jameson Crowder for ten million or Schuster Smith Schuster for the same price. I don't know. Maybe Smith Schuster, but I like I like Jameson Crowder, I do I like Crowner. Um, all right, Will Fuller, he is a member of the Dolphins, which feels like it was just fate. I feel like Will Fuller was always on the Dolphins in some way, in some reality, some universe out there, He's always been a

member of Miami Dolphins. Now he is in this one. Uh. He signs a one year contract, and you know, he kind of blew it. Let's face it, Um, he was having his the breakout year everyone he expected UH with Houston last year after DeAndre Hopkins went out the door in that um in for this trade, UH, and it seemed like he was going to go into a contractor here coming off a twelve yard season with ten touchdowns, and then he gets pop for p d s UH and get suspended for the last chunk of the season.

Uh so that depressed his market. Good for the Dolphins, who now have a guy with huge upside. And I like this one too, Greg because to a you want to get a good idea of who this guy is and what he can do. Um and if you as we surround him with better weapons like the Giants just did for their young quarterback, you're gonna get a better chance to see whether he can really do it. Yeah, you hit it on the head there. I think I think that got overlooked that you know, they're two best

receivers were DeVante Parker and Ghazicki who's the tight end? Okay? And then after that it was like a fall off a cliff to like the Jachem Grant or Preston Williams coming off in a c L like that was not a good skill position group. I think it's it was close to the Patriots as being uh you know, one of the worst in the entire NFL. I think Fuller isn't even better pick up than than Schuster. I love that.

I mean I could see them resigning him to a big contract in December or January, or using the franchise tag because it goes well, I mean there are the you know, he hasn't played more than eleven games since his rookie year, UM half a decade ago, and we I mean every year we've talked about when he's not in that offense in Houston, like it changed markedly and I think it will be the same in Miami. That if they were to lose him for three or four games,

you're losing your deep threat. Maybe you know certainly that they're ripe to draft someone too, but he adds an element because I think too was in a tough situation to your point of who the two leading receivers were a year ago, A lot of contested catches, UM, a lot of stuff over the middle, UM give to a chance to throw deep and create big place. This doesn't Isaiah Wilson, the tackle who was as in terms of yeah, one year drops in terms of where you are as

a professional. You could go across the spectrum out of the football world. This this is pretty tough. One to twenty nine overall. Picked by the Titans last year, they identified him as a guy who can be a big time tackle UH for years. He totally bombs UH in terms behind the scenes, being on the field two trips to the COVID list, H A d U I, all that sort of sort of stuff that the Titans say, we can't make this work. They essentially dump him to the Dolphins and Isolah Wilson now has a fresh start

with the Dolphins, and what does he do. He shows up late for his physical, then late for his on boarding process, Then he skipped um voluntary workouts, and according to the Miami Herald, he refused team efforts to help him to get his life on track. So in two weeks the Dolphins say, okay, we're done, and he cleared And now he cleared waivers, which means his football career could be over potentially less than a year after being a first round pick in the NFL. It's kind of remarkable,

and not in a good way. I don't know why if you're another team, you don't swoop in and grab this guy in with him now. It's a like, you know, I think it. It was the cherry on top of a terrible, pretty terrible offseason for the Titans a year ago, one that really cost them. I mean, if they made different choices, they would have been a different team. They were relying on him after letting Jack Conklin go and other guys, and he does not show up for the challenge.

And these little things, Um, these are the little things showing up to work on time. Uh, you know, putting your best foot forward, X, Y and Z, and he seems incapable of that. It just reminds you that a lot of these guys are immature. I mean, you've got to there is something to be said about who you

are off the field. He kind of reminds me a little bit for a comp like Justin Gilbert who was a super high draft pick in Cleveland and basically, if you wanted to pick like the ten stupidest things you could do to have your career fade away, he did them.

And Isaiah Wilson Um has also checked every possible box, including getting COVID multiple times where he was caught at like frat how I think it was like at a frat house, Um frattonizing that's what you do at a frat house with other people who were not you know, quite troubling. I mean, he doesn't he's not into football. It happens, you know, he's not does not seem that interested in having an NFL career for whatever reason. It might be a simple one where he's like he's just

not that into it. Um So, I don't know if it's sad or or there might be more serious things going on. I was gonna say that that would end up being a simplification. He seems like a guy it's a little bit lost at see he doesn't and it doesn't sound like he has people that are there to help them make the right decisions, or if there are people,

he's ignoring them. But it's it's pretty sad actually, because if you take a step back and you don't think about it, but then it's like it's like a twenty two year old kid like and he's totally like, you know, part of the French up his life right now and only he can really get himself back on track and right now he is off. Yeah, I had I had a conversation about this actually someone over the weekend, and it's my theory, Like I saw this tweak going around.

It's like, hey, just because you're in the NFL doesn't mean you like for ball, Like plenty of these guys don't really like that much. And I thought, okay, well that's I think the majority by far do because it's so hard to get through. But I do think there is like a subsection of NFL players, and it's often the most talented ones who can get by enough with their talent and they don't become like the best players

in the league. They probably are just like on your roster and there maybe middle of the pack and they can just like get by with their talent just because they're talented enough, and they're they're not really that into it. And um, I think I think he would have been. He could have been in that category, but he doesn't even make the bare minimum of Karen. Apparently, you know that Greg had a spicy weekend when he was having

off the cuff conversations about Isaiah. This story named individual story. It was an interesting story, alright. So off the field issues have been an issue for Isaiah Wilson. Also off the field issues a legend coming to the forefront here

around Deshaun Watson. This is a story that's getting bigger, and um, now we have to track and see how it plays out because there's a lawyer named Tony Buzzby who said that twelve clients will sue the Texans quarterback for a legend misconduct misconduct during massage sessions, and the latest of those lawsuits is on an incident that happened allegedly just this month. So it is now officially up to eleven. So he promised twelve. It's the official count

is eleven. At a Friday press conference, Buzzby said that the misconduct continued even after this started to pick up some steam as something that was happening happening these lawsuits and the league is monitoring and investigating the situation. He could be disciplined Watson under the Personal Conduct Policy UM, he could face criminal charges. That is still in play, so we have to learn more about this. But at a time with Deshaun Watson is the centerpiece of the

NFL in terms of intrigue. He wants out of Houston. Now there is a huge off the field issue around him, and you just wonder how that's going to play a part in whether he stays, goes, or even comes off the field entirely. And I think it's it's impossible to say right now let's start there, But I do think the story, as you mentioned, Dan, transitions at some point as the number of UM women accusing him piled up, that this is beyond like not nothing, like this is

not nothing. This is not something they can put to the side. That the chargers also are getting increasingly serious. And you know, I went through and read all like a bunch of the different charges and you know, some of them, some of them involved you know, him him touching, and initially the first couple of ones were a little more vague. But he has the texts and he has like some social media stuff that he's putting as part of it, and it's it's very serious and it complicates it.

And you do think about previous UM domestic domestic cases, like you know, conduct policy cases. I'm thinking Jamis Winston specifically, he got suspended for that UM for what he did, and I think we have to see how this, you know, goes from here. But it makes it really complicated UM for for Watson, for the Texans, for for everyone. I think also if you're like Peter King pointed out, and you know, if you're into football, maybe you don't know

some of how the legal stuff goes. But if it's civil, these are civil suits and you can't be put on the Commissioner's exemple list. And with civil suits, if it moved to criminal suits. That's when guys like Adrian Peterson and ray rice Um were put on those lists, because

that's the distinction there. Um. But another thing that you point out from a football angle that I I think it's just um weighs heavy over the next month plus is that we're about thirty eight days away from the draft, and you know we've all talked about any sort of

Deshaun Watson trade obviously has to happen. It could be close to the draft, but before the draft, so that teams know, whatever team would be, you know what they're doing a quarterback, including the Texans, and thirty eight days, um, with all this stuff thrown into it is a very short amount of time and it could just leave all of this um in a very weird place. And you wonder, I mean, based on how all this goes, where does Shaun Watson's playing it all next year or if he's

playing and it's it's it's a wait and see. You know, I think you have to push pause on the whole thing. If from a football perspective, because if you're the Texans, well the Texans, as we understand it, don't want to trade Deshaun Watson. But if they if they felt like they had to and they didn't have a choice. You're gonna want to move him for you know, a mountain. You're gonna want to be able to restock your franchise

with that trade. And if you're another team, are you gonna trade away your future for a guy that has an unsettled legal situation and not just you know, a one off case or some kind uh an alleged pattern of behavior that is really messy and disturbing and that is not necessarily got you want to mortgage your future over until you find out whether or not, you know, just gets cleared up in courts one way or the other.

So it does feel like and as Mark mentioned, with the draft here, it all makes sense that you would want to do a trade before the draft. But maybe that's just not the way this is gonna work out anymore. It is very messy. Oh my goodness. I think I think if it was someone other than Watson, the story

would have accelerated even faster. I think his reputation and all the other things that he's done in his career and his life and his relationships and everything almost was you know, give gives him some benefit of the doubt in terms of how it just was being handled publicly, you know, like for one or two of these complaints when they first popped up, and there's a lot of focus on the lawyer and in different things, and that's

all you know, worth having context about. Um. But I think if it doesn't matter who you are, what's happened before, if you put the same circumstances with any player in the NFL, would be like incredibly serious. Much less a guy who's a franchise quarterback and you know, potentially getting

traded right now. I mean, I think the things you can't get out of here without noting that when it started and it was just there were whispers of this and it was like, oh, this lawyer lives essentially sort of kitty corner to the Houston Texans owner that there were layers of what is this seems potentially fishy? We want let's take you know, of course, just wait and see.

But to the point that you made are worth the number of cases and the frequency and these similarities of them all, it's just pretty dense and intricate, intricate and so um. You know, our job it really is just to not assume, just to wait and find out how the legal side of it carries out. But I mean,

the timing could not be thorn here. It's interesting how the story has been covered because you're right, it pops up at a time where the Texans in terms of pr could not be worse right now about who's running the franchise, how it's being run, and how they're desperate to keep this guy. And then the conspiracy theories about oh, well, maybe this is one way to make that happen to

depress his trade market. But now you don't. And then you have this lawyer and it was like the way he came out and initially it seemed like he was an ambulance chaser type guy, that he shouldn't be taken seriously, that he's looking for publicity. But that feels that feels like it's shifted over the past week. So we will continue uh to track this story, as unpleasant as it is. Back to football. Nice signing here by the Denver Broncos who pick up Kyle fuller Um, a really solid cornerback

formerly of the Chicago Bears. It's a one year, nine and a half million dollar deal. Uh. Nice spot there for vic Faia. They have experience together from their days in Chicago and Greg just so happens that the Broncos really needed another corner back and now they have a really solid one to pair with Ronald Darby and and oh, by the way, Justin Simmons, one of the best safeties in the league, just signed an extension. Things are set up well in the back end, and then I like

their offseason a lot. They also brought back Shelby Harris, who was one of my favorites at defense. I think I should expect to be in the top five because they're they're a defense heavy team right now. They need that defense because they're spending there. They have a great coach, great system, Von Miller's coming back. That's the type of

defense the Broncos can have. I think from the Bears perspective, if you want to pile on the Bears for anything over the last week, it's not the Andy Dalton signing. It's the Kyle Fuller release. It's the fact that you were trying to trade Kyle Fuller and probably a Chem Hicks to the Seahawks for Russell Wilson right before you cut Phillier Fuller. That you mismanage your cap to the point where you have to cut a really good player. I said, you know earlier this month, though they're not

cutting players they want to keep. Maybe the Bears are an exception to because Fuller is still playing at a high level. But you you kind of mismanaged everything where yet there's been a few exceptions, Mr, There's been a few, but by general point remains. I stand by it. One of the one of the legs of your table, your soapbox right now. But there a couple of exceptions that prove the rule. But the Ryan Pace has blown this. You gotta stand behind me on that point. Uh. It

really makes no sense. It makes no sense, and I love it for Denver he has I mean, also, Kyle Fuller couldn't know Vick Fongio any better, and well it's a great signing. If you don't you don't wonder if he'll fit into that system, you know he will. And if you're the Broncos and Vic Fongio is your coach, what are you doing other than building up that defense to the best it can be. He's not. He's an old school type of higher If the defense isn't like

loaded at every position, it's a it's a weakness. And I know a bunch of listeners have been telling us that we've been calling the general manager his name is George Payton a warding into some Um, we don't re refuse to acknowledge that, not to recognize it. Sure, we're not dumb to the suggestion. We just refuse to to to give into that. We have our own name for him and General Patton military marching music, Ricky, that would be nice, Yes, Peyton, we already got a Painton. Okay,

we don't need to complicate things. And plus we had a George Patton and he was a General Patton, and this Patton as a general manager. It's too pit, it's too perfect exact from a wordplay angle. You can't ignore it. Please. It's like some people on this network, an NFL network, called me hand zoos and they like check started it,

and it's stuck a little bit. I could go around spending my life correcting people, as I've had to do, but at a certain point I was just like, you know what if certain people like hitting my last name in a different way, Um, even if they know that it's been said multiple ways, whatever you feel works and for our podcast in our league, it's George Patton. It's the general. You are. You are the old What happened

to Daddy Rich? Though I thought you're you're floating. People have multiple options and how they would like to address you. Daddy Rich is one that never really got off the ground, but it was officially thrown out there. The New Old Blue Eyes is another option. I mean, there's just you've got a lot of directions. The new Old Blue Eyes.

That one's good, that's catching a little fire, that one's where, that's bubbling up, and who knows very strong it might be turning into you know how like nobody calls hi Matt Smith. In fact, my old neighbor now that I've moved. But she was asking me right before I moved, you know about what it's been like doing shows during the pandemic. And I told her, oh, yeah, you know, doing the podcast and we have a show and also do this power ranking show with Matt Money Smith. She's like, oh,

you know Matt Smith. It's like, yeah, I know money right guy. Oh we love Matt Smith. We listened to a show every day. It's like, who calls him Matt Smith? You know what's so funny? Like I had you know how Facebook, they'll throw you suggestions on who to add as a friend, and I was looking at them and it was like become friends with Matt Smith. And I

was like, I don't know anyone named Matt Smith. And I was like, wait a minute, that's money, And like I realized, I totally get why he injected the his birth name with a with a saucy nickname in between, because it changes the entire energy. Everything changes throwing money. And that's why the new Old Blue Eyes. I don't know if that ends up being my thing, where my when you see my nameplate on NFL network is gonna say Dan new Old Blue Eyes hands. That's in play maybe,

but I don't know for sure. I don't control it. I don't think I'm more interested just that you that your vision of yourself was throwing this nickname out there. That's the nickname, the nickname you want, don't know. I just go with the flow. I just go with the floe, all right. Chris Carson went with the flow, and it took him right back to Seattle. Nailed it two years,

fourteen point six million. Uh, there's one of those stupid void years in there now that that can't be new, but I feel like that's being stressed more this year. People are like, like that Taysom Hill contract, which is not to get off off track here, but we never really dug in on it. Taysom Hill got the onety million dollar extension, which clearly isn't that but why did

they have to make it so giant? Was that? Was that trolling people that don't understand the salary cap or me specifically, I don't know why was that contract so giants? It's for voids every year? It's like that's like, oh no, don't take the contracts seriously. It has voids after each year. Like again, not to hit on this again, but what what are we doing here? Well? What are we doing here?

Why does that make some complicated? I think probably appeases certain the egos of certain agents where they know that a vast majority outside of like sort of something you know, a group of nerds, not I wanna call the nerds, but like people that understand numbers, um, they're going to

see through that. That Hayes right away. But the most football fans think that Taystom Hill sign this monster contract until smarter people like ten minutes later describe it initially you don't have your average guy or girl just saying like, well wait a minute, that contract looks voidable and strange, like you need like that layer of looks to come into market, go check out. Like whoever it was, whether it's rap sheet or chefter, I don't know who it was.

That the initial tweet of the numbers, and then look at all the replies like the next five days just totally and then within three hours like calmer heads have come in and said, this is probably what's really happening with the financials here to your point, to answer your question, Dan, taste Mark doesn't do a lot of voices, just have to say maybe we need have more assessler voice worker. I don't know who that was was Liken pff like under score cap expert. I feel like just general like

a snob. He's like a snob at a country club from an eighties movie, Um saying, I would say to answer your question, Yes, the Taysom Hill thing was was what was the word you use? It was it was having a little fun with us, trolling us. Yes, it was because his contract, unlike some of these others, didn't have anything real in it. They just they just were met. They were just messing around. They weren't adding anything to

reel to his contract. And you're right, these voids and they've been around a little bit, but they've been growing, and it's been it's all Loomis in New Orleans who really brought it to the forefront um and the Drew Brees, like all of Drew Brees contracts lately have had these voids. And then the Patriots copied it with Brady and like now it's like everyone's just going void wild, you know what,

I hope because I don't like being trolled. I don't like people being showing and and say, oh look I know the caps so well, I could you know, I can make this a billion dollar contract if I want. I want something to happen with all old Mickey blue Eyes himself Loomis. I want him to somehow miss something in the notes and to end up being a guaranteed a hundred and forty millions to Taste in Hill, Like he just gets banged for being the show off. That's

what he desire. I think it's sad and to Who's just like, well, we gotta do we gotta do this crazy void with someone who should we do it with and they're like, hey, let's do it with taste, and that don't really get them going Chris Carson back to

Chris Carson. Yes, good job by the Seahawks. Another guy that you kind of thought might end up leaving and making that team weaker as a result, but he comes back on a team friendly deal, I like to think, and when he's right, which isn't always the case with health issues with Chris Carson Mark, but when he's right, he's a really good freaking running backs and they got

him back in the fold. I I he's the kind of running back that I kind of just like, and I think he makes the Seahawks fun when he's on his game. I mean, if you go back to seventeen, I think he's fourth in the league and sort of tackle breaking elusiveness, creating yards after contact, that kind of

those kind of metrics. And you know, they also acquired Gabe Jackson from the Raiders, So I think there's something here where it's like, let's we're trying to show you, Russell Wilson, we want We're not just appeasing you, but we do want to put the parts around you to quell this storm. Um, because if the Dashaun thing goes south, there may be extra attention on making this Russell Wilson thing happen. If you're one of these teams that doesn't have a chance to draft, you want to go swing

for the fences. The spotlight turns to Russell Wilson. I think you're peak Carroll. The Seahawks are saying, we're getting you a right guard, We're getting your running back back here, we have a draft coming up. Bang, I am here. I feel like they've had a curious offseason, though I know their fans do, and I share that that they they really valued Uh signing Carson and then trading for

Gabe Jackson, who's making ten million dollars. Meanwhile you didn't and signing Gerald Everett, the tight end from the Ramps for seven million. Like that money adds up to a lot. And you chose not to keep Dumblop. You don't really have a a pass for us. You chose to keep Jaren read Over. Uh, some of these other guys the offensive line. Okay, Gabe Jackson, and you resigned Poe Chick.

It's like, I don't know, I contract was out of control. Yeah, it was fourteen million but I'd rather have done Loped than Everett uh and Carson or Everett and Gabe Jackson. However you want to add it up. I think there's a lot of grumbling going on in Seattle right now about how their team is being run by the fans, and I get it. I do. And by the way, and this is quieted down since the trade, but they

still have to pay Jamal Adams. They gave up two first round picks for that guy, and he's gonna be wanting to be paid at a a market resetting level contract. And by the way, if you delay too long on that, he will start to let you know about it. And I know from experience you don't want to go down that road with Jamal Adams. Uh. So yes, it's going to be I think we talked about this um with

Mike Dugard when he was on the show. Uh. And this feels like such a pivotal year in the future for the future of the Seattle Seahawks, like everything can change, uh if things go poorly, and conversely if things go really well, if they're back in the super Bowl. But this is all gonna be forgotten. But we'll see what happens. Uh. Moving on. He would have been nice for the Patriots. By the Waycress Carson, you're gonna fall back. Yeah. I really like Chris Carson. I just was surprised that he

got so much. It shows the Seahawks priorities. Yeah. I would have loved him on the Patriots for for a lower price or what or for any price. Well, I'm not the one pay and what do I care? Well, those guys are. The Patriots probably would have overpaid him twice with Seattle, didn't I think they were. They must have been in on in on him pretty hard, and that's why he got so much. I think from Seattle. I said that Will Fuller and the Dolphins felt like

it was always meant to be. Uh. I kind of feel the same way about the Sean Jackson and the Rams. Doesn't he feel like a guy that was always gonna end up on Rams and now he's there. He signs a one year contract, so he'll be catching passes. It's a good thought, Matthew Stafford throwing passes the DeShawn Jackson deep down the field. The problem is the man cannot cannot stay healthy. We all know that. So he's thirty four. Now those paper machee hamstrings. I don't imagine they're gonna

get stronger as he enters his mid thirties. I've just been through a week of moving and my body is in a full on revolt, just the aches and pains of lifting boxes and putting together things and going up and downstairs. For Sean Jackson, it's gonna be tough for him to stay healthy. But if he ever did, if he ever did, he'd be a star. My guess is it's for very very little money. The money hasn't come out, so my guess it's it's just kind of a flyer.

I'm I'm glad as a fan because I I just don't like DeShawn Jackson going out on too total injury plague years the league. More is more fun watching him, and as recently as a week sixteen last year, whenever he plays, he like rips off an eight yard touchdown. You remember that that touchdown he had from Jalen Hurts. It was against the Cowboys. So like, even though he never plays, he seems to get a seven yard touchdown every time he plays. So, I mean he hasn't he

hasn't had a full seasons in seven years. Um, but I think this is a swan that's there. Yeah, it's you get like eight great games out of him for a million or two million dollars, which eight is, which is what I would think, which is what I would guess he was signed for. Then it's eight quarters eight quarters quarter un there. I really do think so, And like, I mean, look at the problem is the Eagles were

legit counting on him the last two years. And you're right though if you go back to the opener in twenty nineteen, he blew up Washington and it was like this guy still can play, but you're but he can only play one or two weeks a year. I mean, but Sean McVeigh got the best out of in Washington. I think this is a relationship signing. And they lost Brandon Cooks. Um Josh Reynolds was signed by the Titans. So you've got Cooper copy, You've got Van Jefferson, so

he has a chance to see targets and snaps. If to dance point the paper set hamstrings. You know, if you get too much heat on paper machete, it's gluey and it it goes back to that. It's not you know, it doesn't keep its form. You know, I like that that that whole we could go wrong. He you know, he's an exciting athlete and all that, but I don't I don't want him on my team. I just feel like it's not weeks one and two about I guess I got to see the money, but as like a

fourth receiver for two or three million dollars or third receiver. Okay, I mean that that is the limit though, and maybe yeah, yeah, they're fact they're paying um, you know their top two guys good money would uh and Cup and the and you know, the fact that he's still in the league at this point is a testament to when he has been on the field, because otherwise, I mean, his body is clearly telling the National Football League I can't do this.

I can't play football on your team because this doesn't I can't do it. It's not gonna work. I want to, I can want to, I'd love to. I will not cooperate with you for three months. I just can't do it, let alone three weeks. Little wouldn't it be worth it for like one Matthew Stafford seventy five yard you'll get in the air bomb to him that I just looked beautiful. Give me one two million to work one week a year, and I will give you something special in that week.

You'll you won't forget it, Greg, Greg Rosethal. Rams fans out there, savor that incoming eighty four yard touchdown. It will be cool. You're down. This was exciting. This was the first ever NFL news I can remember. My my wife, Emmica broke to me because she's on some mailing list because she bought my daughter a Rams T shirt. And it was like they were they were out front with this de Sean Jackson news right off the bat. But you're busy talking Isaiah you know whatever his name is,

to like random sources stuff right off. Right after we got off the podcast air on Thursday, as this always happens, big news went down in the NFL Business News. The league announced a new eleven year deal with its television partners UM. According to the AP, the NFL will earn a total of one and thirteen billion a billion with a B from the deal, and it will run through the twenty thirty three season unless the NFL opts out, which they can, I believe in seven or eight years. Uh,

and I'm sure they will. And then sign something worth I don't know, trillion, twelve trillion dollars maybe next deal anyway, it's pretty crazy, but in terms of what it means to you the football fan, a few notes and then I'll throw it to you guys if you had anything else you took out of it. Uh. Number one, we don't get any of the money that should be note. UM, Monday night games starting will be flexible starting in week twelve.

That's interesting. There will be more Monday doubleheaders. Uh, there's going to be a Saturday double header. This is all a couple of a couple of years down the line, but Saturday double header during the final week of the season with teams that have playoff UM aspire ations. That so that's flexible. And Thursday night football is headed to Amazon and a full time capacity starting in which is

obviously a total game changer. Uh for UM Television. The idea that watching a primetime spotlight Island NFL game now you would only be able to do it unless you had your computer internet hook up. UM. And that's that's a game changer, and that looks like the future. Yeah, the home markets will will get those Amazon games. I was curious about that on some sort of over the air TV. But if nationally, yeah, you'll have to have

Amazon Prime. That that changes. It's a bummer here for for us At NFL Network, they said the net NFL Network will have a small, you know, selected series of games. It's a little unclear what that would be. Maybe holidays or Saturdays. Well, we'll see, um. But it just it just goes to so coming off the pandemic UM to be able to do this is wild. And I love the fact that they're going to be flexing Monday night. And I think, you know, it should it shouldn't go

without saying, uh, seventeen weeks starting starting this season. That's part of it too. That's not official, I guess, but I think I think it's it's close to as official. We've been calling for more flexing UM and as as of others for a long time, so I love that they're open to that. I do wonder who would be the announcers for the Amazon UM scenario. Maybe you still

you know TVD on that. Here's one little thing that's stuck out for me because how long have we been watching football where Network A owns the a f C and Network B owns the NFC and all of that is going away, that the there is no more CBS um a f C partnership and Fox NFC marriage, that it's all being dissolved. And I find that fascinating, um too. I don't. Maybe that's just a nerdy thing, but I grew up with NBC UM being tied at the hip

to the a f C that became CBS. But Foxes been with the NFC for so long, and all of that's being thrown into a soup um, which I think is causing may cause some consternation because you don't have those you can't rely on those certain properties, um if you're one of those networks, those certain teams year after year. So we'll have to see how they figure that out. But I think most of this is how lucky that they signed that c B A when they did none of the I don't none of this would be happening

right now. They got that thing out in time, at the weirdest time in our our nation's history to be signing massive contracts. Get your get your TV, by the way, you know how like each each network as their own you know, streaming platform, like if you don't if you're a cord Cutter. You can get Paramount Plus and you'll get NFL games. That's gonna get everyone to you know, sign up for Paramount Plus. But Foxes, you know, streaming thing is called to be to you b I, so

you might have some NFL to Yeah. To Be has a separate version of NFL Network. Um that just all sorts of other program and it's pretty good. Sorry, probably didn't need to jump in to talk to be, but I just like the word to be t u b I, let's do it. I like, I just like an entire show that just Marking Gregg breaking down the streaming wars. Who needs Marshot going upstream with Cessler and I would be the Robin to Greg's batman on that front. He

is like obsessed with television deals. Uh, let's hit eight o'clock to light. Philip Lindsay, formerly of the Broncos, signs a one year, three point to five million dollar contract with the Texans, the Texans who also just signed mark Ingram and also brought back David Johnson. Okay, they've they've signed twelve different players to one year, three million dollar contracts, but this was maybe my favorite one. This one in

Desmon King. I don't hate what they're doing a little bit because they can reset the board next year, run a little single wing with all three running backs and Tyrod Taylor. Wow. Uh, Cincinnati Bengals. They finally add someone to their offensive line as Riley reeve recently been with

the Vikings. They also, as we know, let A j. Green walk in free agency, while they also say goodbye to thirty two year old Geno Atkins, the great defensive tackle, who is cut after eleven years and Cincinnati injuries have taken their toll rank. They have potential Hall of Famer. I think I'll get another job, and and I know I know you are worried about Burrow, so at least trying. They're trying. They they better use that first round picking

the draft on a tackle. We'll see Sheldon Rankins, formerly of the Saint Size of two year, seventeen million dollar contract. Another guy that's been dealing with injuries. He's now joining a Jets defensive line that needed um a little more depth. What do you think about Rankings great big upside his eighteen season, he was awesome. That's a it's a nice signing. Birth to that. In two thousand eighteen He had eight sacks and forced to fumble eight sixteen starts for Sean Payton.

All right, Xavier Rhodes resigned by the Colts one year, six and a half million. Uh, what do you think? More we I think Matt Eberflus got the best out of him last year after he really kind of crashed and burned in Minnesota. So why not? They could use the extra pass rush though, That makes the secondary better. Dan Quinn, fired by the Falcons, resurfaces as d C with the Cowboys, and now he brings along one of his former guys, Dan O'Neill, the linebackers safety one year,

five million dollars. Yeah, they're trying out a few other ex Falcons. It's like, yeah, let's let's get the whole Falcons defense back together. That was a great group. It's gonna play linebackers. Sorry, he's a good Effony Harris with safety signs of one year, five million dollar deals with the Eagles. I like this player and they got him for five million. That's a good bargain. I mean he he played with their new defensive coordinator, Jonathan gannet So

good job to Brown signings. Troy Hill cornerback four years twenty four million, and also Malik Jackson signs as well with a it's formerly every eagerly. I think that John Johnson Troy Hill signings were quietly some of the best work in the f C perfect eight o'clock. Well, listen, Mark, you you're feeling good about the Browns, aren't you. You've you've kind of you've ducked into slack it for a couple of times of a couple of texts. You had a high coup on our network show. What are we thinking?

I think the high coup is really just a way to um continue to troll Big Bend in the whole concept the Big Ben returning this season. But I do think, um, I'm and I'm not saying this, but I've seen some reports saying they think that the Browns have one of the most well rounded rosters um in the conference, and I think it's fair. I mean, they needed to address secondary. They still have a few other things to do, and maybe we could get out into that segment if we

wanted to. But Mark has a lot emotionally invested right now in not just the Browns, as he always does, but in the Browns bringing about the demise of the Steelers. So that'll be a good well if it goes south this year, right, if that goes south, or if it just goes back to the norm of before last season, or really just before last wild card game. Um, there will I will be punished by many from the Pittsburgh

area on Twitter. This this is setting up, though potentially as the true Now, the playoff game was a lot of fun, but maybe Mark, truly the tables turned starting and you become the bully? And how will you handle that? Will you comport yourself in a way that you felt the Steelers fans didn't always handle their business the right way?

Will you handle yourself with dignity if that happens? I hope I would, But I would say it's very up in the air because, Um, I'm already noticing that my behavior is becoming less kouth um post wild card game, I'm starting to inhabit some of the traits that I found unlikable in others. Um, all right, let's let's uh before we say goodbye quickly, let's talk about it. Um. Teams that still have work to do, whether it's gonna be free agency or the draft, Mark, you want to

get going. I will I thought that the Jaguars um, and there's a lot of places you go here. I thought the Jaguars were a logical landing spot for like a Hunter Henry type or maybe even a John new Smith UM. And obviously no one UM. But the Patriots snagged both of those guys. They let Josh Oliver go, who was a bust. UM. They have Trevor Lawrence coming in borrowing something you know, unexpected. You'd love to give a rookie quarterback, even if you're as good as Trevor Lawrence,

like a security blanket. I think that's something like Sam Donald's missed in New York, for instance, because they've had issues at that position and health. They've got your dude Chris man Hurts lined up to play snaps and John and James O'Shaughnessy. I like the idea of James O'shanny on your roster doing one or two things, but not as like these two guys. As you're um starting tight ends.

So there are UM, they're in tough position because there are a couple of good tight ends in the draft, but they're not going to go in that direction in the first round. UM, and they're kind of out of luck right now, so I think it's a position that they need to look into. I I did a best worst contracts um piece for NFL dot Com that's going

up this week. I'm not sure when uh and the Jaguars were on the worst because they were they were the one team that I felt like like all these deals were below what you expected, except if you signed with Jacksonville like they where there was like the top of the market where everyone was about where you thought and then a lot of bargains except for Jacksonville giving like a lot of money to Roy Roberts and Harris and Malcolm Brown and Marvin Jones and ray Sean Jenkins

and Riff and their their cornerback that they got Um. I just felt like they paid a premium. I don't know if that was like a hey, we're bad where the Jaguars premium or what, But they don't know if they had a great month. It feels like a trend belki Um premium. That was an interesting person to hire a GM UM. Let's go with Miami. It seems weird because they just signed Fuller and yet I like want

more I just got. Maybe it was expectations being too high that I thought they were going to do a lot this offseason, and they got rid of some good players and they you know, they brought in Fuller, they brought in Justin Coleman, who's a slot corner, but especially on offense, where I'm not totally convincing that offensive line, no matter how much Handsome Hank says they're better than I think that they're great. And then you know, I just want more receiving weapons. And I thought they'd bring

in a nice running back there. So maybe that's the draft, Maybe that's bargains in free agency. There's still players out there, but I want to see more out of the Dolphins. That makes sense. But I do like I like that they haven't panicked and and we'll see maybe something changes

between now and the draft. But I never liked that idea of pivoting away from to a potentially or going crazy, Um I would like I think it would be totally It would be nonsense if you Assent really soured on to a based on last year, which had so many obstacles against him. So I like the Fuller sign it, but you say I want more. Maybe it's the running game you want them. Yeah, I think there were um to some degree, but even another it's just a thinner

group than you'd like. They did sign Matt Scura, the Ravens center, who I believe was the one that was struggling with snaps and my crazier here the one that got hurt. Either way, they did sign a center, but I I want them to like take the next step, and I'm looking at the raster not sure if I see it. I think in another world they could have gone after Aaron Jones, which I mean a lot of people were connecting those dots. I thought that would happen.

But they have a lot of draft picks, and I think they have I really do think Chris Career Um is the kind of guy that maybe says we're gonna get our running back in the draft, and there's there are some good backs in there. Um, we kind of touched on it quickly, so I won't um dig on on this one, but yes, I think good job. They The Bengal signed Riley Reeve and they had a steak dinner where they sealed the deal. Joe Burrows there, Zach

Taylor was there. Um. After dinner, Um brief walked away, uh saying I walked away from eating that steak and I was like, I want to block block for that guy, all right, could So that's a good start since tonight, let's not settle now. I know Mitchell Schwartz is out there. I don't know if he's continuing to play obviously the top of that draft, but I really want to focus

on a different team. And they have seen north than it is the Baltimore Ravens, and man, it's it's interesting to me that they are not more active in trying to build up their wide receiver room right now. And I'm not saying they should have signed Kenny Golladay because that was a lot of money to give to Kenny Golladay and you have financial restraints, but you know you

didn't go the extra mile to get ju Ju. I imagine you could have if he signed a one year deal worth eight million, and I know maybe they did offer a little bit more, but maybe you have to go another year to add someone there. But the fact that you still have Hollywood Brown at the top of your depth chart, um, it makes me think that this team is not it's gonna struggle with Lamar Jackson to take that next step on offense unless they make a splashy uh move via trade or really focus it on

draft upgrading at wide receiver. And this fact whether you could put whatever you want into it, but I think it does um hold water because Ozzie Newsom gave way to Erica Costa, who learned under Ozzie Newsom. They've never drafted Pro Bowl wide receiver in the history of that organization. So if you're gonna leaning on that, there's some history that tells you they're not. Maybe they have a little

bit of a blind spot at wide receiver. So if you're gonna pass on free agency, you better hit on somebody in the draft unless I'm crazy, Greg, And I know you love Lamar Jackson, Uh that this is fine the way it is, and they're a running team anyway, and you don't need to build up around I'm not shocked because that's how the Ravens have approached things over the years. And we knew they were coming into this

offseason in a tough spot. You know, they also lost their top two pass rushers, uh, and they've made some moves. Kevin Zeitler they picked up for their offensive line. There is one name out there who's the top My receiver rankings. Really the top two there left that I think would be good for them, which is t Y Hilton is number one left. I think that would be a nice signing. I don't think he's done um, but the culture trying

to bring him back. And then Antonio Brown, who they were rumored to be um talking with at some point last year, is also available. I don't know if that's

the right fit right. I don't know that the top two receivers at least available on my on my board, I could imagine Antonio Brown being UM, very annoyed and question don't want no. I I just wonder if you're talking to your camp, your agents, your managers, and you have equal deals from Team A and Team B, and you know the Ravens are a tough place if you're a wide receiver. To think I'm gonna go and become I'm gonna blow up here, this is a great fit.

It's like you maybe you will, but you have no idea. And like the Greg Roman offense feels like the last offense you want to run into based on their star wide receiver. They're saying, you know multiple times this year this place is a trash have been perfect, so our our tailoring about it that Juju got a nine million dollar offer from the Ravens, a one million dollar more but more incentives, like some incentives too, but it was still a one year offer. Why why not make a

little more, give a little more guaranteed. I think Juju would have fit perfect in Baltimore. That's where Lamar throws best, is over the middle. T Y makes sense. Sammy Watkins also out there is an option. So I don't know, but make a move, make a move, give you give you that that guy a chance to lift his game as a passer. If that's the jury is out on him in that sense, well you gotta build up around him.

I don't know, Uh, anybody else have something? I think I just want Denver to to all that quarterback spot with Locke because I don't want to as someone who really likes this roster. I like their defense. I like the weapons around Lock a lot. I'm not feeling good right now that right now Noah fant In Courtland Sutton and Jerry Judy and Tim Patrick and Handler and even Melvin Gordon like they're all relying right now on Drew Lock. I want another. I want an option be I don't.

I think all the the good options are gone, so it might be too late unless you drive it might be. I mean, I think the cults um left tackle, Anthony Constanzo get Teddy. Denver, I just thought of that one, Denver. You love Teddy. I love Teddy two and a half times more than any other person you. How about how about your boy? How about your boy Matt Rule? How

about your boy Matt Rule? You love sending see poems about who gave him fifty million dollars guaranteed when no one else was, who told us on the show how much he loves it and, by the way, helped him produce at a really high level for about ten weeks before the wheel. Well, Greg, that was you, Barry Dan and I in front of Matt Rule to showcase yourself as a Teddy fanboy, which I didn't appreciate. But secondly, that entire organization is said, we're going to go get

a real quarterback. So you're right, by the way, I get it, though you I think you were, You were right, But I also think Teddy is way better than Drew lock Is. My point is Teddy is that Alex Smith, you know, or even a little lower like twenty three or fourth best starter in the league. And to me, that might be a huge upgrade from Lock and might be a pretty big difference. And I wouldn't hate that.

That would be a good spot for Teddy. That's all I'm saying, all right, I mean, I'm just here's the thing with Teddy Gregg at this point where we are now, where it's now two thousand twenty one. Last year really felt like the chance for him to establish himself as a guy that you could really say that's myke QB one. He is. He is not the greatest quarterback ever, but you know he's in that conversation of like a you know, in the top fifteen. I don't I don't think he

had his chance and it just didn't happen. Is that a solution? You're right, But I think I get it. But what if that's not what they're looking for. They're looking for a guy to pair with Locke. That is kind of a making case for that. I think what I just said with that realizing was well, no one else is available. He's on the wrong side of the Dolton scale, Teddy. So if you don't why go you know, whether it's I think Locke is definitely on the wrong

side of the Dalton scale. Uh, maybe they should have went a different direction, because that is a roster that can win. I think. I think if you watched it all of Teddy's snaps last year, we go First of all, it did go south. But I think he was better than people think, if not for one really big problem, which is he played his worst in the in the late portions of fourth quarters of games. And that really sad,

and that's understandable. Like when everyone switched to the Panthers game with five minutes left, that was when Teddy was at his worst. But that's not what you want out of your quarterback. Every Panthers game seemed to come down to like a sixty one yard field goal attempt. I don't know if you're trying to I don't know if you're trying to help Teddy Bridgewaters' last five minutes, but you're greg you're going to have to at some point, like verbally accept that he's not quite as shiny as

you pitch him to us. As I mean, if if he's going to be on his fourth team in four years, um, if he's on his fifth team five in five years a year from now, will you still be you know, song and dance scenario here with Teddy Bridgewater? Can we chill just a little bit on the PR machine. I don't know what your relationship is with the Bridgewater family, but very close, you know, has he reached out to you? He's a likable guy. No one's questioning that. We like

to watch. It's sad you kind of replaced Geno Smith with Teddy, like as the guy who up that. It's hard to fathom for others. Um, we all have those players though, that's true. All right, good stuff, good stuff. We'll be back on Thursday with another show, another big week of action for the Around the NFL podcast. There is no off season, so we have a show on Thursday and then the network show returns on Friday, and please check that out. Any any closing thoughts, haikup, perhaps tomorrow.

I'm still thinking about Teddy. I'm still things that could respond about Teddy. It's like if if Sam Donald, how do you always do that? You always Donald? I'm not saying Donald any could I just you know, I'm just saying if he had done one season as good as as Teddy's even last season, or his first or second season. It's like we would we would be talking about huntil

the cows coming. I don't know, man, That's like when you you start to get upset, you just bring up Sam Donald and and say, but if he was Sam Donald, it's probably right. But um okay, that's it. Dan has a signing off for Quiet Storm. The old Boss. Ricky Holly is very silent assassin behind the virtual of Last Today. Possibly asleep, maybe maybe coherent, maybe awake, we don't know. But anyway, until Thursday, he's the call six

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