MNF ReCAT, IR News and What We Love This Season

And Mark you know this very well. When the holidays come, they really go all out with the decorations and put the lights all over the It's a pretty cool like southern California in the holidays vibe, don't I think they keep it up for dog. Mark would to see months and months after and they've repainted the outside. But I think it's been a while since any of us have been inside. I gotta rectify that. Uh. Welcome to the Tuesday edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. We have

so much to get to. We're going to finish out Week nine with our Monday Night football recap NFC East battle between the Cowboys and Giants. Also, we're gonna preview the first game of Week ten, a nice a f C West battle at the black Hole. Uh. That should be a fun game to watch. Potentially, we got a nice seg, good segs, Greg Road a banger, and his most recent debrief column, what great intro. What we've loved about the twenty nineteen season so far. It's like that

time of year, you know, that's mid season. It's kind of is at the dog days. You got six teams off this week. This is where you got to grind through. And what cares you through is the love. You know, That's what gives you the energy keeps you going to work. Otherwise then you're just a miserable, sad sack. Uh. Maybe if we have some time, we'll dig into an issue behind the scenes with Eric who who is not happy with the old juser In regards to today's seg, it

wasn't behind the scenes ten minutes ago. But no for the listeners, off Mike, Off Mike. But before we do any of that, Uh oh yeah, And we're gonna do some news and that's good because there's some big news to talk about. But let's start at the meadow ends Prescott and the gun trips to the left Snap back fur Man rush time to throw it all in the

line open to the twenty five yard line. How Amari Cooper all tend to the five to the paylog touchdown A Lari Cooper tremendous protection for Press Scott forty five to Cooper on third down. Brad Sham the sham God with the call k L R. D oh Man. Do you think anybody was dreading the film room more than Giants? Rookie cornerback DeAndre Baker, who you know? Everyone playing zone on the biggest man on the biggest play of the game. DeAndre thinks they're playing zone and I'm Mary Cooper walks

into the end zone forty five yards with the clinching score. Yes, the Cowboys wint to eighteen over the Giants at the Metal Lands and a game where West the Cowboys certainly didn't bring their a game. This is a one point game uh entering the fourth quarter. Um, so this was not the blowout it appeared on the final score. However, they did what they had to do, which was pulled

away from an inferior opponent and they move up. Yeah, that looked familiar the opening portion of that game with the the interception on the first pass and then you had Randall Cops touchdown, nullified Cops fumble and scoring territory. And Dak Prescott I thought put it pretty well after the game. You guys saw the game. They weren't beating us. It was us getting in our own damn way. And when we're rolling into what we do, there's there isn't a team in the league that can stop us. And

I think that describes the Cowboys perfectly. When they lost to the Saints, when they lost the Packers, when they lost the Jets, they were getting in their own way, and they have to prove that they're not going to do that against a good team. They have beaten a string of tomato cans. The one question left about this team can they get out of their own damn way

against the cream of the NFC crop. They survived the game where Dak Prescott I thought played his worst game of the year for about three quarters And maybe that happens when you you're coming out of a buy and you throw an interception on your first path of the game that you just aren't feeling comfortable, You're not seeing the field. Most of their big plays were just wide open, and then he gets it together. I'm not worried about him because I think he's played really well this year.

If I'm a Cowboys fan of my big takeaway is just this defensive line, which I think was a weakness earlier in the year, is now a huge asset to Marcus Lawrence is playing with his hair on fire again after he was really coming slowly off that shoulder surgery to start the r Robert Quinn has a lot of speed, Michael Bennett uh is gonna be a big time pick up for them, and Malik Collins has been pretty good

for them all year. Suddenly that's a huge strength, and that was kind of my big takeaway from from this game. There were some images that I loved from this game that made me feel reminiscent for decades of old and it was weird uniform tweet quirks, like Michael Bennett's shoulder pads, which you know he's worn it that way before, but he looks, you know, he looks like he's basically just

wearing a padded T shirt underneath his jersey. But the old school Giants uniforms, which I would lobby them hard just to bring back full time because with Giants and Jets uniforms in general, it seems like you go about twenty years with the incarnation and then you go back to what it was previously. They looked awesome, and it's not just the hell it. People were on fire about bringing back the Giants in block lettering with the underline,

which is the classic eighties iteration uh. And they've had the n Y for a bunch of years now. But it's not just that. It's the font on the number and especially the lettering on the back of the jersey. And if you grew up in the Northeast, like we did, you connect that to LT and Bivarro and LT was there, and I think that helped. You know, Monday Night takes on a different tone than ten am West Coast on some stadium, you know, somewhere else. That's what they're trying

to sell, the whole different deal in the house. You've given that telecast a compliment. I'm just saying that the vibe in the stadium could because the game was tight until the beautiful Black Cat came rolling out and literally

changed the game. It kind of reminded me a little bit of when the lights went out during the Ravens nine or Super Bowl where there was even a Mari Cooper who said afterwards that he went out with a bang up knee, that the whole pause in the action going into then into halftime gave him a chance to

rest up, and he played an awesome second half. We want to hear Kevin Harlan, who had one of the greatest calls in NFL history, was the drunk that ran onto the field Monday Night Football a year or two ago. So in this situation, what I want listeners to be plugged into because it is not hard. It is not easy to do the job in general of a play

by play man for professional football. But what he's able to do here and you'll see, is not only call the play, which is the completion I believe to Evan Ingram of the Giants, but also simultaneously called the cat's initial uh, you know, getting upon the scene and then what happens afterwards. Let's listen to Harlan. Oh, there's a cat of a black cat is taking the field. A black cat is running from the twenty to the near

side of the ten from the Dallas. Here's a short throat down the middle, cought blight Ingram caught at the thirty five, went to the thirty. That's hard the other way and ingram at up the Dallas Cowboys. It's a catch run of fifteen. Now stop at the fifty. So is it bad luck for the Giants? Cowboys don't know, but they've stopped playing. The players with hands on hips are watching the camp running zigzag all over the field.

Now a policeman, State troopers come on the field, and the cat runs into the end zone and the cat, you know, I mean, my favorite part we didn't even have in there where he used it. Does a sponsor read that the Cats entered the cdr W zone seamless easy Pilan that he is the best of the business in Westwood one Radio. So uh yeah. That was the turning point in the game in a weird way, not because of the cat or maybe because of the cat, but that Cowboys kind of started to take control of

Black Cats have power. I think they do. I think that everybody on the telecast and everyone was upset that it didn't happen before Halloween, which would have made it an instant sports classic. I think I think it still will be one of indelible images of twenty I think my kids will remember it forever. It was like it was bedlam. It was as if they were told they were just given a week off from school to hang out at Disneyland. There was just screaming and laughing. I

couldn't hear anything for about two minutes straight. They were they were in love. Hey West, how about a turn back the clock? Performance late and vanderesh out with a neck injury, insteps Shaun Lee and he leads the game with twelve tackles, including a stuff for a loss. Sae Quon Barkley couldn't get away from him. How about that Shawn Lee still doing the thing? Yeah, I think that answer the question I had. I figured he could still

stop the run. But he was out there playing really well in pass coverage on wide receivers and tight ends, and you don't see that from thirty two or thirty three year old linebackers. That Dexter Lawrence played to me was at the goal line where I had. I'm watching on condensed and they don't show replace. I had to rewind that four times to figure out how the guy on the left side of defensive line is stuffing the guy two yards behind the line of scrimmage on the

right side of the line. I think Zeke looking better the last couple of games is pretty huge for Dallas. Took him a little while to get going, kind of like Melvin Gordon after the holdout, makes uh, makes some sense. I think the Giants have to be a little concerned that Daniel Jones leads the NFL and turnovers by a decent margin. Now he's fumbled a lot, He's thrown a lot of interceptions like that, and not saying I'm overly concerned, but he's he's got to cut that out a little bit.

Is a rookie, I get it, this happens. Should we get an update on Dave Gettiman's victory lap right, I'm just saying it's anyhow if that first game hadn't happened the way that it did, I think he's having a totally normal rookie season. And he did make a couple of throws in that game, uh that were really impressive. That make you think that's why you love Dania Jones. He doesn't look like a buster or anything. I knew

I was trying. I was forgetting something. This was the most lily livered coach game I've ever seen out of a Pat Sherman and Jason Garrett for that matter, especially at the end. These guys have never met a fourth and three inside the ten yard line that they can't kick a field goal. They had four field goals under thirty yards go for a touchdown. At some point you understand what type of game you're in and what type

of defense that you have. You're not gonna hold the Cowboys under twenty points after field They tried very very hard to make Jason Witten the ultracenterpiece last night. I had a good game. That's a pretty good season. I'm not saying he's not having a good season. Is slow as you can be, Well, he doesn't have foot speed us. This answers or will give us a lot of insight

into two teams. On Sunday Night, when the Cowboys welcomed the Vikings Al Chris and Michelle Vikings on the road against a good team versus Cowboys having to not shoot themselves selves in the foot against the good, against the Nonmato going to shatter. The last time they were on Sunday Night football, they beat the Eagles thirty seven to ten. You know what I want to say, how Kirk Cousins play. I really do. Every week I get more and more excited to see here you are. You are not alone?

And all right, that's what's happening with Monday night football. Let's now hit the news. Did you just say go find Dr feel Good? So Mark Sessler and I were upstairs on Sunday getting ready for our Sky Sports hit with the great Neil Reynolds, and um we happen to have the audio on and who is that? Voices? That foolish of me to call? And Ricky do we have a little longer clip of that interaction between thomb and

was it Spielman? I'll tell you. In this league, here's my rule, upper body, go see doctor feel Good and let her go. Did you just say go find doctor feel Good? Is that what you just said? Did I say that out loud? And then he asked another time? And maybe even a third time. Thom couldn't get over himself with it. Yeah it was. He hit it hard as if it was a bit that was, you know,

registering with everyone on a ten decipel level. And I don't know that it was lower Yeah it was lower body see a real doctor, basically upper body who knew I kind of appreciate if you go th h O M that is the correct shortening of Thomas T O M is a little pretentious though, no doubt about that. And I don't know, if you want to go through life with thumb, you're you've probably been getting that since he's going through life with very well, He's Yeah, he's fine.

I've I've enjoyed that crew. I feel like he's leaning into who they are, like a wrestling tag team, you know what I mean, Like a good cop bad cop type. I don't know what it is. It's just it's a it's there there. The game is their theater. You know, the world's a stage. Are allowed. I'd argue that bit did not hit though. I've been trying to tell you this about thom for years. This is what he does. He's playing a character. We might have to talk to

Shadowy League figure. I think one of the best offseason shows we could do is the power rankings of the of the announcing teams. Would we be able to do that, then we will do it. I've got pages of notes

on it. All right, let's get to the news. Cam Newton looks like he's done for the year in all likelihood, Um he has been placed on i R. The Panthers announced it with a foot injury UH, an injury that first popped up in the preseason during his I think only series he played in the preseason, he he uh suffered a foot spring and then we learned after he played a little bit poorly in the regular season went back on the shelf after Week two, that it was

the dreaded Liz frank uh injury. And then there was an ominous report last week that he was not getting any better and Kyle Allen would continue to start well. This is the logical conclusion to it all Mark cam Newton heads to I are most likely done for the season, although there is a way apparently to that he could come back in some capacity. I heard that earlier today. I don't know if that has shifted since then, but uh, Cam Newton, his season is over and quite possibly his

Panthers careers. Overeah, I don't think he's I don't think we're gonna see him again this year. Uh. And it you know, he's been through a lot over the past year plus. This is a guy that did not miss more than three games over his first a hundred and twenty six eligible audience and was the picture of durability taking endless punishment, and it's caught up with him two

shoulder surgeries. We got the thing going on this year, and the Panthers can part ways with nothing more than about two million in dead cap space if they ever wanted to move on, and I don't think you do unless you have a much better option that the entire organization is into. But I would imagine that there would be on a couple other teams out there that could look at Cam Newton as a major spice up factor.

Can you imagine Cam Newton on the Bears or on the Bengals, or even if the Dolphins decided we're not going to get that guy in the craft which version though, Yeah, it's hard to imagine him because right, who is which version is fair? But if he's checked out healthy. The foot injury, the foot injury ruined a season, but the shoulder, which has been operated on twice in the past two years, that was the major problem early in the season. Yes, he couldn't move either because of the foot thing, but

the throws is what had everyone freaking out. Before he went on the shelf. He's never been a top shelf passer. I mean maybe the half a season during his m v P year, but he's been a dual purpose quarterback and we thought he might be the exception to the durability concerns of running quarterbacks because he's so big and so tough and like Mark said, only missed what three games over the early portion of his career. But you just look through the history of running quarterbacks and this

is when they decline. But that's true, and you do wonder about that as he's, you know, turning thirty one next year. But I would say he was a top shelf quarterback throwing the ball in North Turner's offense for half a season for more which was which was a totally different offense where he wasn't going downfield anymore and he was just settling for short but making making good decision, making good throws using his legs. Still enough, he's you know,

the greatest red zone weapon of the decade. Uh, it's not even a question in terms of the numbers. Was we don't know. We don't know a lot of that was because of his legs, But won't someone wouldn't that absolutely. The The arm is is a different thing the foot does it does concern you. I just don't think the Panthers would be interested in getting rid of them unless they were getting a ton in return, because his salary is so low. I mean, he's making eighteen point six

million dollars for a quarterback right now. That's actually a huge bargain. I think even if he was put on the free agent if he was put on in free agency, which isn't gonna happen because they could trade him or he'll be back with the team, there'd be plenty of teams who would line up to still pay him a lot of money just for the chance that he's the old Cam Newton, because that would be such an upgrade.

But I have a hard time even guessing who's the coach going to be next year, who's the GM gonna be next year? You don't know in Carolina, and and without knowing that, how can you guess who's the quarterback. And I'm not saying he can't change his style like you said he already did last year. This transition started three or four years ago with the Parthers saying we can't continue to run him as his own read quarterback.

We've got to use the big bend model. And make him a quicker decision quarterback making quick passes, and like Greg said, he started that last year. I just don't know will that body hold up if he continues to play the dual purpose style. I wonder if he came into the league just a little too early. I feel like teams are with Lamar and Kyler Murray our start

to meet the quarterbacks a little more hands A runover guy. Sure, yeah, and early in his career he certainly could make people I just mean like design really make an offense around his his dual threat ability. You would like to see a team commit to that, But maybe maybe he's a v P. Moving on, Doug Moron has made his decision. Nick Foles will regain his starting job with the Jaguars, sending Gardner Meanshew Uh to the bench after eight weeks

of very solid play. But at the end of the day, Maron said he he thought about it hard, it was his decision, and he wants to bring Foles back into the mix as the Jaguars look to make a playoff push in the second half. Here is some more of what Doug had to say. You've done a great job, and you know, I feel a whole lot different about him now than I did prior to him playing, and

in a very positive way. Uh. We took some things and had some discussions on things that, um, we're gonna work on going forward, which we'll give him the ability to be a player in this league for a long time. And really believe that I was thinking about this. It's kind of a good spot right now. If you're a Jaguars fan, and I know you might be frustrated because you spent sixty dollars on the Minshew jersey and you have the mustache and you bought into the mania, and

you're excited about him as a prospect going forward. But there are two ways this plays out. One well, there's three ways. One way is Falls is okay, and then they um have a decision to make in the off season. But the other the two other options are Falls really plays well, and we know we have no idea if he will or not because he was injured almost immediately

this season. Falls plays really well, the Jaguars make a push in the second half, and then they have a decision to make or Falls is very mad and they're like, Okay, there's no need to panic because we have a young quarterback in Minshew who we can turn to feel confidently going forward. But he's our guy, so you just kind

of let it all play out. You also need two quarterbacks in the NFL now, and you can keep him and have Minshew for low cost depth, or you can trade him and have Minshew with no depth at all behind him. It's another team that you don't know what the future is gonna be, So to me, this move is about the present first and foremost. They want to get to the playoffs to keep their jobs. Doug Marone, Tom Coughlin, everyone there, and I'm excited to see Falls

in this offense. I didn't expect DJ Shark and Chris Conley to be as explosive as they are. Uh. I think Minshew was a big part in that and bringing the best out of those guys. But and maybe this touchdown throw that Falls made even played a factor. I mean, he played two series and one of them included one of the prettiest passes any quarterbacks thrown all year. And that's the past that Falls got hurt on. And so I kind of want to see it because Falls good.

Falls is fun, Like if you just started Falls his career in the last three years, you would think this guy's got a lot up potential. He's not over the hill, and I just I kind of want to see it. I mean, I think this is Nick Foles time of year to where you know, who knows where we would be with Nick Foles had he started the last eight plus games. But Maron said it he looked at the overall body of work and Nick Foles, and of course you want to You invested a ton of money into this,

and I think it starts right there. It starts right there, because if you want to just look at the let's say that Minshew was drafted in the first round and was playing this way. He doesn't get bench for anyone in the league, like you just keep it going. But the situation lends itself to this, And so I'm with you in the sense that you can't get out of this year without seeing what you have in Nick Foles. I do think it's strange if we go two more seasons and Minshew is sitting on the bench and we

never see him again. I just don't think that's tenable. He's there's too much to work with and development. Someone's gonna come calling for him at some point. There's also something to be said for leaving the last taste in everyone's mouth Nick Foles Philadelphia success, and then try to flip that in the off season. Because and choose mobility worked really, really well behind this offensive line, I'll wonder how fools will work behind this offensive line. It makes sense.

You always want to have a backup quarterback who can play and keep your season alive of disaster strikes. But yeah, he signed a four year, eighty eight million dollar deal twenty two million a year. He still has value on the market. I would think if they do make that decision, they would not keep keep around a backup at that rate. They would probably trade him Uh for salary cap purposes and whatnot. But I guess there's a scenario where they could couch it and have both guys on this roster

going forward. I just doubt it. I mean, I think that teammates next year. A backup gould be a backup that Uh comes in late in the season when Minshew gets hurt and Falls plays well, I think they'll both be on the roster. Yeah, I think Falls are gonna have to play well enough and everyone's gonna have to keep their jobs or then then things are just up in the air. Falls works in this offense, Well, well yeah,

she won't. Let's just say what is the reaction because there's a there's a societal element to minshow two in a football fan element, and I think it's kind of bold of the Jaguars to benjam and do what they're doing the fulls. I give them some credit for thinking for themselves on this one number one. But let's say Folds goes out of the next two games and generates six or seven turn members. I'm just saying it's a possible because he's he's a fumbler too, and he can

throw his share of intersections. What is the reaction and what do you do then? Because I think they tried to avoid stepping right into a big controversy by not starting fulls for the rest of the year. But you'll be right back in one um follow me on this if if you are a listener and you think that they would entertain moving falls in the offseason if it came to that, Listen to the cornerbacks. And we've kind of touched on this, but now it's becoming it's coming

into focus even more. The quarterbacks that could be available to teams this offseason. Cam potentially Dalton, we know Mariotto, we know Phil Rivers, potentially Flacco, Eli Teddy Bridgewater, maybe Nick Foles, maybe Tom Brady. Tom Brady isn't maybe than Than Breezes even more of it. Maybe both of those

guys have There's been no reporting connecting briefs. There's so much smoke, right, there's so much financial uh reasons for both the Saints and the Patriots that would make it very difficult to move on from either of those guys. They have very similar type contracts that they have to point there's a lot of big name I feel like this hasn't happened in a very long now. I would say there's a there are strong reasons why list is

available to alright. Moving on, de Sean Jackson, who was supposed to be ripping the tops off defenses for the Philadelphia Eagles, is instead heading to injured reserve. That abdomen injury that he suffered in Week one or a week two and is he attempted to come back on Sunday, pulled himself out of the lineup because he wasn't feeling

right well. Now he needs core muscle surgery. So ded acts will exit the picture for the Eagles, and it's kind of Gregor what if scenario for Philadelphia, who could certainly use a guy like Jackson, And we've seen it this year. A lot of people, myself included, thought Carson Wentz could be an m VP type player. This year. The offense has not been explosive, and maybe if Jackson was there would have changed some things. It would have helped.

I really think so. And he signed for the next two years at pretty reasonable salaries, so you know he should be back with them next year. You would think they have to work so hard to score. They moved down the field slowly. Maybe Jeffrey is a little healthier after the break, But I think I just who they're gonna be. Two tight ends, got Her and Urts a lot of running the ball, and their defense is gonna need to play better than it did the first six

or seven weeks. There's some signs that that they might. This is doubly painful because I got the sense that they didn't make a trade at the deadline because they were counting on DeShawn Jackson to come back. And I've seen enough of mac Hollins. We don't need to see him anymore. What's wrong with j J Artha Whiteside that

he can't get on the field. He was on the field for the first three or four weeks and like Collins, could not you know, he's got a second capitalize on his targets and was not getting the ball too often. I would have named our Sega Thumb because you could then have thumb Arthega or or thombounce it Tom and take that and get you know, keep it at Arthega. So even though it says people are gonna say, oh, I should say thomb No, no, no, you save that

for Arthega. I mean another guy that's probably had some struggles, uh, you know with friends and others people for a long time going on there. Uh, it's been a bad season in Cleveland, Mark as you know. Uh and this week the criticism is piling up at the quarterback position at head coach. But uh, they didn't need this. Germaine Whitehead, who's a starting safety, started all eight games for the team.

After a really bad game against the Broncos in which he whipped on a tackle um no offense long touchdown catch at mile high, some fans got after him on Twitter and he could not resist the urge to punch back, and punch back he did well. It was Dustin Fox, right, former player, and he was getting people. But he hit back at Fox and others with some racial epithets and also uh, some threats, some physical threats. He all people are saying, where's your address? He listed the Brown's facility,

obviously a wretched look for whitehead who should know better. Uh. And the Browns promptly, um, you know, took him to task with an official statement on Sunday night and then placed him on waivers on Sunday. So this is not just like a bottom of the roster guy. He was a starting safety on the team and now his his tenure with the Browns is over, and I imagine this is going to hurt him finding a job. Released him as they should. I mean, this isn't the dawn of

Twitter or the dawn of social media. There are courses heaped on these players all off season and into the season about what is going to cost you career wise if you choose to take a major misstep on Twitter or et cetera. It is got to suck to be a player and have to deal with if you have a tough performance. People have no idea how to assess what a safety is doing on any given play, and people just coming at you and you have to use

the self control to not fire back. But if you don't, if you choose not to, teams are not going to put up with it, especially with what he wrote. I've said that to you so many times over the years. Mark to me, I pulled you aside. I said, delete that tweet. I mean, I'll play with fire, but I'm not on an NFL stop so I think the lives of our listeners. It's no way to build, you know. I mean, Okay, you think these players have it bad?

Asked asked Ricky or Colleen Wolf like women in sports, they've got it even worse on Twitter and and yeah and fire back either half the time and it's just like or all the time. Yeah, not fair. I would if you wanted to throw out some threats people that are being inappropriate toward you, Riggy, I would stand behind you. Yeah, I'd do like a dead spit thing. I'd walk out. You would That's really sweet? Absolutely market could you then quietly returned to the I was gonna say, I don't

feel like that's your end game. I'd go home and talked to Emily about what happened, and then I just I do the move. Larry David famously um he worked for SNL briefly Saturday Night Live, and he was not a good fit there because he's a weirdo. A beautiful weirdo, but a weirdo. And one day he was frustrated that the things weren't going right, so he just he quit. He announced his quitting and he walked out. And then, uh, the following week, he just came back to the office

and tried to act like nothing happened. Didn't work out. George Costanza did the same thing, and a sign filed up. I believe he worked with Julie Louis dreyfuss On said he did, well, what do you guys make of of the Browns, you know, taking off, you know, taking him off the roster, but they also hired Kareem Hunt. So do you think it's just like a PR move or

how do you I mean, I don't know. I wondered if if the perception was not out there that Freddie Kitchens has no control over these players, because that is perception. With the penalties and Baker Mayfield shaving three times when he shows up, the players wearing bad cleats, It's all part of the same story that's been going on for two months. I was gonna ask Mark, do you think if this was any other team but the Browns, would

it still be the same outcome. I think a bunch of teams would have gotten rid of a player that did what he did. But I would say, to Erica's point, the Browns, if you look at what they've done under John Dorsey, it there is reason to suggest there's some hypocrisy going on there and that they've signed players that don't fall into the conduct zone at all. For what you'd want to put out there for your friends, I I would venture to say he's played almost every snap

this season for them. Uh that if he had not gotten run over by Noah fanse in in Ah. You know, to a player, I would say would be an unfortunate way, I guess would be the nicest way to say it and have a disastrous game. That he might not have been cut And there was a lot of pr He said he was playing with a broken hand, Well like a broken brain. Come on, bro User. Moving on the final word on that story, Uh, the Athletic put out

a story, uh that you know, got some buzz. On Monday, Vincent bon Signori wrote that there's a possibility of the Chargers moving to London. It's something that's been broached among

league personnel. And that same report also indicated the team would quote at least listen if the prospect was broached, Okay, And that was kind of the extent of the reporting around this, and then it went into It was a long piece that featured UM quotes from Dean Spanos, the Charger's owner, but not in direct connection uh to that report, and also some high ranking nfl UK officials involved with it.

But at all UM doesn't seem to have any legs at least right now, because Dean Spanos was approached by UM Chargers Beat reporters today Tuesday, and he had this to say, We're not going to London. We're not going anywhere. We planned to be in l A for a long time. That was bulls. That story via the l A Times and then the Chargers Twitter account. Minutes later, UM piped in with this famous scene from the Scorsese film The

Wolf of Wall Street. I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving I love dold you like this movie, Mark, I loved it. I enjoyed it. DiCaprio one of the great underrated actors. He's great and and rock and ball to me a scene? Uh, Greg, what did this have this all play for you? I don't know what to make of it, other than being clear on what he actually reported. Wasn't you know, too aggressive?

He just he said there were some league discussions. You know, It's it's hard to under to know where in the league or how important that would in that you know, someone within the Chargers that they would listen. And yet the the article has a quote from Spanos right off the top that you know, said they're committed to l A if he had used the words, I think that he used Monday and they used and that was the quote in the piece. Is there even is there a

that's what? That's what the question? I don't know what to make the framing of the question to Spanos because such a different response, a profane response to reporters and angry response to reporters, but something far more measured that was used on this piece. Did the reporter for the Athletic laid out clearly that, according to his reporting, that it was something that the league would be interested in doing, that the Charges would be listening to. Uh was that specifically?

Did he utter that to Dean spound Us before getting his sound by, Because that, to me makes a difference. They are the only team renting and not owning their home, and they're in a city that doesn't necessarily want more need to teams, so they're always gonna be spoken about as a team that's gonna move. I mean, they've gone

through this, they just went through this. That's the only thing that's I think if you're a Chargers fan that's actually come with them and in in still as rooting for the l A Chargers when you are San Diego Chargers and there are some of those fans they know they take a lot of pot shots, and there aren't there aren't a ton of them, but they're in Orange

County and in some of the San Diego fans. It's he's got to come out aggressively against this because if you want to, you know, get rid of the fan sport that you do have stories like this, they're gonna

do it. I mean, the reporting that I would love to have in depth is go to the highest people in the league and find out where their heads are at at this point with the Chargers actually moving to Henry Hodson Henry Henry, or maybe it's just a little bit lower than Henry, but yeah, just you know, I mean, this is not a problem that's going to go away. It's going to magnify as the optics change and suddenly they are in a massive stadium when they can't fill

a small one. And this is purely opinion, it has nothing to do with anyone involved with this, but the NFL A team would work in London. I I having been there twice, having seen their support, having just looking at the data of how the people have packed that stadium, how the sport is growing over there, I think it's absolutely something logistically that they could make work. And I know there would be challenges and what players want to

play there, and that's all been discussed. I believe that not only would it work, and they did touch on this in the article, that it is a potential gold golden opportunity, uh for for a charge a team like the Chargers to kind of re establish itself and become perhaps a business superpower of the NFL. If if if it worked, So I think it's gonna happen eventually, but whether it's gonna be the Chargers or whomever, I don't know.

But it just seems like London is ready for a team, and also is the ready made stadium which we were just at that was built for the NFL. For the NFL, they have ann stadium in the NFL locker rooms separate from the soccer locker rooms that is locked and loaded right in the middle of London. There's no way to cleanly uproot a team and take it to another city. It's just it's the worst thing you can do as a sports franchise to the people that have made it

possible for you to even leave. And the Jaguars are obviously always the team that people you know associate because because KHN has you know, investment, you know, has the soccer team and has been part of the stadium there. I I don't know, it's easy to say that a team and makes sense there, but I really don't think it could happen unless they lay the ground or in this CBA which is coming up, so it might come to a head. I feel like in the next year or two, if they're gonna move, they have to get

buying from the players. It all sort of has to be organized, you know. When that c b as I would say, if you can't get Philip Rivers to move his eight children the hour and forty five minutes from San Diego to Los Angeles, I don't think you're gonna get him to move to the United Kingdom. And to be clear, I think the buying I don't know about the league and the owners and the players. That's unclear the buying, but that market they're ready to buy in.

Can we say the same about Los Angeles with two teams? I don't know if you can, but it seems like London would be able to handle team and thrive with it well. And probably the biggest teas they've had in terms of a news story coming out suggesting someone is potentially in place, and the reaction from people we know over there was big. Well, London. The thing is with those fans, and I think the Jagguards have done a nice job. They can root for more than one team,

like you can have like the Jaguar. They're kind of a lot of people in the UK from what I gathered, like their second team, like you like them, like if you don't have the same sort of tribal I grew up in New England, so I'm gonna root for the Patriots to begin with. Then I think you're willing to support different things, and I've noticed this year. I don't. I kind of like the trend of there's visiting fans in a lot more stadiums because of the secondary market

is so different. There were a ton of Vikings fans at the Chief, so it's not just bad. It's not just stadiums without great fan bases. There are a ton of Vikings fans at the Chief. Eagles fans in Buffalo. There were a ton of Patriots fans at the Ravens game. There were a ton of Cowboys fans at the Giants. You know, I think that kind of we were there for for Rams Cowboys, and I thought that was a

great atmosphere. It's kind of fun when they're you know that you have that soccer field where there's two fan bases in the same But that was I would argue that was almost like Cowboys fans in terms of noise. But I thought, but that's you think it's cool, and I think it's cool. But I don't think the Rams thought that was cool. At a playoff game. All right, let us move on. That's what's happening in the news, and of course we will continue to follow that story

wherever it leads. If it leads nowhere, all right, let's get it. Ricky, you got upset with me because you did a really nice job UM sending some potential store UM segment ideas UM for today's show. You sent it yesterday. I was in the middle of my power rankings and I didn't give it a thought that it deserved. So I apologize for that, UM, And I know it's on your radar that we're doing a segment called what We've Loved about the twenty nineteen season so far. Yeah, it's

pretty funny. So I just want to put it on record that I get it. But keep the ideas coming you. Yeah, you just for the listeners. I want you guys to know that I was like, Okay, let's look at what's trending. You know, Dan, you like to stay on top of what's going on. Frozen to what what you know? Storylines? Do we need to what's frozen two? Two? Okay? What about what about Lizzo is over party? It's a K pop feud with Lizzo, you know Blizzard wide receiver of

the packers exactly what what you know? Players are we feuding with or we're not really saying like what we're with. There's a lot of m v P talk. What about the opposite of that? What about players we thought were going to be Yeah, I'll help you out with you know, um and I had another bumble idea that was very fun. It might be something you know to do because you normally do a segment shows. Right now, I want to make it very clear it doesn't matter what happens in

the NFL over the next seven days. Our segment on next Tuesday show will be one of those ideas or a newer Ricky idea, a Ricky centric seg idea next Tuesday only on the Around the NFL podcast. Okay, but the best part about this whole thing is I like put all this time and spending, you know, writing up all these things in my email side. I know you're really busy with power rankings, so I thought i'd send you some news items to try to make your day easier.

You did say thank you, and I sent you some some news and I sent you segments and then on the Rundown Today segment What we've loved about the twenty nineteen season. This is this is grinding you very funny, don't you think I told you? I'm sorry, Yeah, I love it. I just I think you know it's new too. You've never done that before and the NFL season. You've never sent the ideas before, right, this was a first? Right? No, well,

like in this way you've never done it. Like, maybe not the most welcome environment to send ideas, I would say out there. No, that's absolutely false. Mark, it's a great environment. Please send ideas. But if if it's going to be something that happens every week, will be more kind of on my mind. It was in my mind and then it exited my mind because I was busy. But that won't happen again if it happens for multiple weeks. No, I think it's my I just wanted to try to

make your day okay, get it. And I'm really happy that you're super busy with all other other shows that now that's that's also I could see there's a little bit of a knife being sure shadowy League figure in the building. How's your fantasy show? It's doing really well. Thanks for the plug da fun. Appreciate it. You do good work on that. I saw you did a remote from the huddle our commissary. Yeah, it was good, good stuff.

What we've loved about the two thousand nineteen season so far, all right, so let's go around the horn and share what we've loved. Greg. We're gonna start with you. Well, you know, I have to start with Lamar. But the reason I love what the Ravens are doing and Lamar Jackson is just that it's counter to everything else in

the league. That they are taking an approach sort of from the seventies or eighties or Hector like the twenties, and they're making it new with a with a player who has a skill set unlike anything we've ever seen. And that's kind of the history of the NFL. There are no new plays, there are no like new offenses. It's all been done before. It's the same with art, like you don't start art from scratch, there's no such thing.

You're building on what people have done. Standing on this, you're building on what people have done before and then you're you're changing it for the modern day. And that's what the Ravens have done, and they've it took some hot spa to do it, uh, and it's taken. The fact is they're they're executing it too. The the way that the rest of the league is gonna have to try to catch up in a league that's all we hear is pass first, past first, past first. It's spread

them out. It's a pass first league. They are the best running team of all time right now. They're all in the They're they're sixteen games. Jackson would set the record, and their pace for this year would set the record, and Lamar Jackson would set the record like he's played sixteen games. So it's a perfect example a nine season

why you didn't want to do the same. Like football, I love football, like it really does carry me through, Like when like this job, we all wear a card at it, and if you don't like, really enjoy what you're covering, then it's gonna get tough in those days. And seeing to teams like them, and then especially the forty niners who are just doing it in a totally different way than we've seen in a while, and it's working and kind of busting up all the maxims that

everyone says. I love it. I give the Ravens this credit too, because if you're Greg Roman, i'd say the star rose and then it fell a little bit because the league went away from what he was doing with the Niners and you hired a guy who's whose CUE rating was not where it was in the past, and you let him do what he does. And it's it's not the Niners offense from the Kaepernick days entirely, but there are a lot of shared elements there and you

nailed it. It's working like that's it's working with divided a blueprint to stop them. Remember that No, that was that feels like a million years ago. And we did a segment that should show up, uh somewhere on the internet in the in the next few days. Um Our Mid Season Awards and one of my my categories was you know bad teams stay bad award. Well, the Ravens

are example how good teams stay good. They took Lamar Jackson, he was the fifth quarterback taken in the draft last year, and they just had a different vision than everybody everybody else and they knew how to They didn't try to force him to be something that he wasn't. They're just a well run team and I'm glad you brought up. Lamar is the first one great because if you didn't, I would have I And if you listen to the podcast, you know I hate the Patriots. I'm so sick of

the Patriots. If I have to cover the Patriots of the Super Bowl again, it's just gonna ruin the whole week for me. And to have another young king rise up now because Patrick Mahomes he rose last year and you put all your eggs in his basket and he couldn't get the job done. It wasn't his fault. His defense let him down. Uh. And you were counting on Patrick Mahomes to do it again this year. We counted on the Steelers for years. They never could do it.

And now you have Lamar. And I'm not saying he's gonna do the same thing in January against the Paths that he did on Sunday night, But now you have another guy that Bill Belichick has to figure out how to beat, and he might not be able to because these young dogs that are rising up, one of them are gonna get you eventually. Sean Watson another guy there. It's starting to grow now, these young teams on the rise with superstar quarterbacks. Is that what finally does the

Pats in. We'll see, all right. I guess I go twice because I did go on a little bit there, but I got excited. I'm very excited about um this one. I'm you know, I'm gonna save mine. Actually, because it goes in, it brings things down a little bit. So West, I'm gonna spend to you. Well, baron with me for a minute here. I want to talk about mama's You know my A lot of guys, you get your love

of sports from your dad. I got mine from my mom, who we had passionate, intense debates back and forth about things like Oral Hirschaizer versus Dwight Gooden, Michael Jordan's versus Larry Bird, or Magic Johnson. And I learned that she was really Those debates were important life lessons about selflessness, generosity, and teamwork. And the point for me is nobody, none knows their son's strengths and foibles to the extent that

a mom does. So when Minca Fitzpatrick's mom tells the Dolphins, you're using my son wrong, wrong, she knew she did. He was used on twenty two of plays as a deep safety in Miami he's used on as a deep safety in Pittsburgh, and he is and he's gonna be on my mid season All Pro team. He is that good. They they were allowing a one forty one passer rating on deep passes in Pittsburgh before he showed up. They are now allowing a ten point eight rating with a

zero to three touchdown to interception ratio. And he had three takeaways in a six day span recently. And another thing he did when a when a sportswriter said, hey, you just had the longest return touchdown and Steeler's history, he corrected him and said, no, James Harrison did pet peeve post peas postseason stats count. Stop saying only regular season stats count. They're the most important games. Thank you, micka Fitzpatrick, Thank you Mama Fitzpatrick. And he knew that.

A good job by him in that in that spot to have the Harrison recall and knowing the history of the game right after he of football, here's no doubt he's transformed the back end of that defense. And you see if every metric, all the numbers, it's remarkable how much has changed since Week three with Pittsburgh. Now he's not completely responsible for that. But he's played a huge role. No, but their defense has enabled them to stay in the race while playing the worst quarterback in the NFL. Oh

you know, now he's the worst. There's no doubt about my god, they're playing the wrong guy. All right. Um, now I will go and uh because it's been sufficiently deflated. Um with that Mason Rudolph thing. I I love uh what Troy Aikman tweeted last night. Okay, power league has a lot to address this offseason as consumer confidence continues to wane. See what I did kind of twisted this

a little bit. He love that tweet. Um working on multiple level because it's you love referring to our league's league. Oh he did the hourly That's right. I thought that part. You just started talking about that over the weekend, that that's the new National Football League everyone, instead of saying the NFL is like in the National Football League, The new thing is an our league in our league. You gotta make a football play on the football field. This

is the National Football League. It's our league. I think if you want to dig into that a little bit, and this is not what my subject is, but that's a way to cast out the people like us. Absolutely, I call it my employer, but that's that's not very different. You're right, it is setting a boundary around anyone that wasn't there on the field. And you probably shouldn't try to trump my comment if you weren't a former player. My analysis that I'm about to unfurl comes from a

place of experience on the football field. So if you want to counter what you said what I say, just know that it is not your league. It is our league, and more league my league. Anyway, that's not the point. Our league has a lot to address this offseason as consumer confidence continues to wait. I kind of like Troy Agman's Twitter account. He comes with some fire. He's got a really good profile. Pick where the with Evan Silva.

I don't know if you saw that it was that recently. Yeah, last week, two weeks ago, it was about how you judge quarterbacks and what stats to use, and it was that the Patrick Mahomes thing, and he was less of a conversation and more of six straight tweets at Evan Silva. But he responded it was all respectful, we med yards per completion thing. Okay. He also made news because somebody put Patrick my home statistics and next to Troy Aikman's

and he dwarfed them all. And then Aikman fireback, well, I got the I got, I'm gonna I'm gonna follow him my homes stats up against Ateman they played a totally different era, That's what he pointed out. And he's got the trophies. Anyway, Um, it happened again Monday night football. We had a game just overloaded with penalties and stoppages and a bad p I situation where it went to review.

And I do think when the when the league got gets together, um for the meetings that happened after the season, that they do have to find a way to increate better the pace. And that's become an issue that's uh been a major fight in Major League Baseball as they try to shorten their games. These these NFL games are

getting longer. And I think back to that play Greg, that sequence of the Chargers Titans near the goal line where everything was sucked out of it by incessant stop downs for whether it's a measurement or a buzz down from the booth to look at the play. Uh, you know, more flags than ever I know. They've gotten the holding thing, which was inexplicable when they started pulling out the flag at a massive rate increase earlier this season with more holding calls. They just they just got to get out

of the way a little bit. The officials and the past interference thing, which we've talked to death, but I will say this, I my initial thought was it's not really working, um how it was supposed to work, because they they I think they overturn or they stick with a call almost at the time. But at the end of the day, they're still getting some things right that were egregiously wrong. But in truth, it's affecting the game strategy wise. It was taking away time outs and also

it's stopping the game outright. It's just shutting the game down. And I think the NFL has to find find a way a NFL game and their league. Greg, I love the product, but something just to clean it up a little bit because it feels it feels like it's been a little sloppy this year. That's right up my alley. What part of this do you love? I like, I would say this, like, don't don't fall into the trap that unfairly baseball has because of the way that baseball

is naturally paced, don't slow the game down. They it's already been a leading they know it, but but it's distinctly changed this year and shifted. Ever On came to us and said two years ago, this is sports entertainment. We know it. We got a quick in the pace. We have to put a good entertainment product on the field. And then this past offseason that was completely abandoned. That

was not a talking point whatsoever. Your battle is everyone out there watching has something better to do on their phone and watch a game that gets mired in a four minutes stoppage while people in black and white jerseys france around figuring out or we're just gonna back up our own potentially mistaken call. Although on some level I I always do find it funny when there's fifteen to forty people all tweeting at the same time how the game is unwatchable but they have to watch it, Like

why are you watching? You have a million other things. Most most of them are media people, right, they have to watch it, but they don't know. Most of them are fans of other teams or their beat writers of other teams, and they can't You can't like give it up there. It's a beautiful game. They just get out of the way a little bit, find a way to clean it up. All right. That's that was a great segment. Guys, did you want to offer anything during that? For heaven's sakes,

Dan just spoke for twenty five minutes. I did that on purpose because before when I when I went after West bark rolled his eyes for some reason. It is now well, I like anything. What did what did the ill? It had? It was something. There's things happening within the head space that have nothing to do with anyone else. Trust me, I like things that helped me learn about my own job here. We're still our job is to

get better every year at what we do. And I have learned a huge lesson this year that we spend more time in the off season than we do in the regular season, and real when real games matter much more time when there's no games happening, where we cook up storylines, we cling to narratives, We get too lost in our own headspace and ideas about stuff to have not at any point been proven true, but will be proven untrue within the space between week one and week two.

That I am vowing to never fall for the one a off season hype storyline, whether it be around a team, And it was the Browns this year, and I don't think that I fell for it as as much as some day I was guarded against, but only I think because I had a personal, painful stake in it. I think had it been another team, I would had had someone else gone and done everything that Cleveland done, I think I would have fallen for it. And my guard

is up to not listen to this junk. I know that we have to fill air waves in space all these other months, but there's a way to do it without just glomming onto the group think scenario where huge chunks of the media had Cleveland in the a f C title game when it made no sense when you looked at all the changes. This is my favorite annual

mid season tradition. Mark vowing to never pay attention to offseason story Well, I will pay attention, but I'm not going to glom onto something that feels especially group thinking and a little too from You're right there, like none of us have almost any predictive value. And I don't think that's a that's a bad thing, Like it's okay that it's it's it's all totally unpredictable. It's also the NFL has proven over and over again that if you say something, just wait three weeks and you'll be right

or you're right either way, say something you know. Matt Floor said it this week. It's been proven over and over again. You cannot get comfortable in the NFL. Once you get comfortable, you're gonna lose, because, I mean, the flip is flip side is like all the other hot takes that aren't group think, they're wrong just as much as the group think, which is something that is and what happened we don't need. Why do we need any of these hot takes? I mean we do because otherwise

you're gonna high school baseball for six months. But now you can talk about this sport what without going mark, That's that's what you loved about the twenty nineteen I love what I said was I love it taught me about doing my job differently. I do love that it's had personal effect on me. I can I there's plenty of our things I love. I actually had Greg Roman is one. Don't love the Ravens, but I do love a team that has the gutsiness to Zig when everyone

else is. I'll say this, you know what. Lots of good stuff. Thursday Night Football Slate, which has been rather messy in years past, and it's been an outpost for junkie games and matchups. You have to get out there early in the year or late in the year. The Thursday Night Football Slate, I think has been better than it's been since I've worked here. It's had five or six classic games and props where it's due versus trying to lift up Thursday Night Football when it doesn't hit

the mark which has been other years. I've got a quick love, Okay. Top of the m v P race features Russell Wilson, DeShawn Watson, Lamar Jackson, Christian McCaffrey. That's three black quarterbacks in a white running back. WHOA. I don't think that's where you're going, but I love it, and I don't think five or ten years ago you would have had that. Look, the NFL is not perfect. We've seen with the hiring of head coaches in general

managers that there's a lot of work to do. But the opportunity is there now for some people that it wasn't there for years ago. Good call us, well, said, all right, speaking of Thursday night football, Oh my goodness, we got a good one. The Chargers who just shocked everybody by taking it to the Packers last week, UM at the Big Dignity. Now they travel to the black Hole to face the Raiders, who are really just a

fun team, a fun team to watch this year. UM. And they are in the midst of um a homestand essentially after that seventy four days stretch away from the Colosseum in Oakland, and they get a Chargers team. That's kind of hard to figure out which version shows up, But I, Greg, I feel like I know what version of the Raiders will show up, a competitive version. This will be interesting game to watch. It should be a

close game, I think. I agree. I think the rest of is there for a high scoring, entertaining game because the Raiders play very consistently. They have one of the worst defenses in the league. They don't have much of a pass rush, and they try to make up for that with a very efficient offense that keeps the ball and moves the ball and has Josh Jacobs and Derek Carr and Darren Waller playing great. Chargers made some adjustments with their offensive line play that last week that appeared

to really make a big difference. They protected Rivers, I would say, very well in that game against the Packers, and it just makes me think Rivers, who's kind of owned the Raiders, especially in Oakland. Uh, it's gonna keep it rolling. It only took one game and I'm back in on the Chargers. You know why not? Welly, I like both teams, so I I want both of these teams to make a run that the Raiders wouldn't be dead at four and five. But whoever wins this game

will get a nice little boost to me. What's interesting is that John Gruon has done such a good job and Derek Carto of getting rid of the ball, and then that offensive line pass rushers just not been as much of a fact or against the Raiders as they have against the other teams. And we saw what Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram did to the Packers last week. I wonder if they'll be able to do that to Oakland. This has the feel of the I mean, we're all Josh Jacobs, we all know about him, we all see

how exciting and specially has been. But for the average fan, that's not really monitoring the Raiders or hasn't watched them this year. This has the feel of that Thursday night game where suddenly Josh Jacobs because becomes the player everyone knows about and we hear about him because this is Rookie of the year, not just candidate, but probably leading candidate right now, right in which and the Chargers have been very vulnerable to the run. They've been had a

lot of injuries at defensive tackle. They still do which Chargers defense shows up because Bosa and Ingram were feast in last week on third down. They gave Rogers no chance both. I think Joey Bosa would maybe be my pick for defensive player of the Year right now if I had to make one. Uh, And Ingram's playing great, Desmond King's playing great. Like that defensive performance kind of came out of nowhere, and you hear these little whispers

from Rogers like that. You know, they got into l a early, and maybe some players had a little too much fun. They were a little dead dead in that game. I don't know. I don't know what players Rogers that he hinted they flew on a day early to adjust to the climate and the time change. And he kind of left it open ended that maybe some guys didn't make the right decisions night. A lot of teams do. If you live in l A, the downtown l A Live, which is like a four block by four blocks section,

they put them in one of those hotels. Not much happening at night, and they're not allowed to leave the four block by four block quadrants for that reason, because where would you want to go out on a Saturday night if you're in a visiting visiting player l A.

Let him do it. Oh show um. And my one thought on this game, gentleman, is that and talked about this early in the season how the Raiders in their last season in Oakland, they're gonna be a tough team to beat there and that's been the case, and this could be their last primetime game, and they are packing that stadium and acting like the team's going nowhere. That place is gonna be a madhouse on Thursday night. People

are gonna be that's gonna be a party. And uh, I know the Chargers are used to playing in hostile environments because it happens when they're at the Big Dignity too, but like, this is gonna be something that I know Philip Rivers can handle, but I think it could give the Charger trouble. And that's what I do like the Raiders in this game. I think the Raiders are an interesting team to watch, and they get the Bangals at home and then a trip to face the wretched Jets.

They are set up to be playing relevant football in December. All right, any final thoughts, Joan. He summed it up well, Yeah, just ended right there. Get the plugs in. I got we gotta do these plugs. Greg. Check out that debrief because Gregg wrote at length about what he loves about the twenty nineteen season. I didn't read it purposely because I didn't want it to infect my own thought process for the SEGA, But now it's time. I think it was your best intro of the year. I'm a feeling

you to not mentioned Troy Aikman and yours. I mean, I like, I think they've just started following him to Thursday Night. Uh, we've been talking about the Thursday night telecasts. That has been great this year. I've enjoyed it. They do a nice shop mark on my radar. The Weekly Sessler Banker. You wrote about the parallels between Baker and Meanshew.

Well that Gardner Minshew plays the mythological age old role of doppelganger that essentially operated as a life suck for Baker Mayfield to the point where they look a lot alike. We get that, but they operated as sort of the fun thing last year for Baker Mayfield in the NFL, and Minshew stole all that away to the point where Baker Mayfield is at the press podium at the end of Sunday's game looking pale, having changed the facial hair on his face two different times in the course of

four hours pre during, and post game. A lot going on there, and dig into it now that they put folds back in. I think the Jaguars read my investigative piece and panicked. Baker looked a different kind of dangerous. Yeah, he's lost that dangerous zeal. It's the one like with the parents are worried and uh check out the power rankings which are up the old Zeuser and West. What's coming up with your your upcoming breakdown of top ten? Well, I have to speak with my editor, but I believe

this is the mid season All Pro week. Oh it is. I would you know what I would read and that's a great Uh, that's a great topic. I would read just the emails back and forth between you and Ali Bampari, I usually speak in person. I would love well, maybe some type of dictation. That's a segment for next Tuesday. I would read. I think it might be a less contentious thing. You believe it to be, all right. There may be some passive aggressiveness, but I don't think it's

contentious alright anyway. So check that out. It Lands Where the Lands Dad got it? And Erica get ready your Spotlight next with seven Days can't Wait, Dan, I had the signing off for a Quiet Star and the mail Man The Old Boss I Ricky Hollywood behind the Glass Bill Thursday, m