MNF Recap; Buy/Sell/Hold

a year we're back. Shadowy League figures and made us change our night. It's like when the sitcom that they decide, oh let's move them to Friday nights at eight pm, and then the ratings tank and then they blame the sitcom. No bro put us back on the time spot where we thrived. That's where we never even I think as early as week one last year, you know, we enjoyed doing uh the we the opportunity given to us. We

did the best we could have. But no, I'm gonna say we did but like the but the schedule never felt proper right, and we were just talking about because who knows how long we'll do these Tuesday shows. Um, like these fading bands that are still touring deep into the you know, twenty thirty years after the relevance. Where

will we be thirty years from now? Where I mean, I see the only place we could go potentially is like overseas Europe, do sol doorf I mean like and once upon a time in Hollywood where he has to go to Italy to make the couch. I mean to stay even vaguely relevant, I'd stay four or five years. Ten years from now, we would be very hot water. We're gonna be hitting some of those same venues as bands are hitting the Troubadour, you know, all around the country.

This scenario, all four of us are still together as one entity. I'm just saying that this still existed. That's a thirty year forty years now. Or are we just saying no, We're gonna go three more years and it's over and then what we I still have to make money, don't you how something that's a good transition, um, West, Actually, the four of us, I just wanted a little family meeting. Hey, let's let's head downstairs. Actually, let's go let's go down

It's just the lamb. Let's go out to the lab. Mark, you two all right, it's been a long time since we've been in a while. Died a natural death. I thought, well, it's alive, like Frank and Studd brought brought to life down here. Um, I just want to make sure everybody's cool after Sunday show. West, Greg, you've got a little heated. It's a fair question. A little family meeting here, Mark, and I obviously concerned the listeners as well. Ricky, you

weren't even here. Yeah, I was up in Wine Country and I got asked if you guys were Okay, I'm kind of glad she didn't. I mean, you know, it was an engaging discussion, but I think you probably were in a more celebratory place. Yeah. So Greig gave a speech at my wedding. I think we can survive Antonio Brown. Yeah, we're you know, West and I are brothers, brothers, and as we've seen with the Wesley brothers, they're gonna fight sometimes. We we had moved on and we're talking bigger and

better topics. Immediately, I think it was important just to have a family meeting. And yeah, I mean as opposed to burying your feelings in in in four or five seconds in acting like nothing mattered at all. We're fine, we move on, and I'm still concerned a little bit. Yeah, we're kind of like the concerned parents for the brothers that we're fighting and just talk it out. Antonio Brown is gonna come up and the news later today. So we just as long as everyone's on the same page,

and you guys have moved on as brothers. That's more of a testing ground when we get into the thick a bit, you know, issue nice, nicely done. Dad, never person. All right, all right, let's get out of last Dad. I thought I was what's Erica Icas? Our little sisters? He's a little sis. That means Dan and I berth Erica. That is a ridiculous scenario. You birth Erica. That means that one of you guys to win Disney World Right, isn't the first man to give birth? Don't they win

Disney World? Mark? What does that even mean? Not worth it at all. I could get in there today if I wanted to. I The whole thing reeks of poor planning. All right, Okay, that's good, because yes we're gonna get to Antonio Brown and Bill Belichick's comments on the New Patriot its wide receiver. That deal is now official. We will also um do a little by hold cell after Week one on a number of topics we'll hit. We'll look ahead to Thursday Night football UH and week two,

which begins with the Bucks at the Panthers. Nice little match up there. But before we do any of that, including the news, let us finish the Week one slate with two Monday night football games, starting with v game of Week one and one of the better Monday Night football games of the decade. Let's go, Ricky snap placement looks Leans into it, lots is done the distance always, Donna says when New Orleans gets the w in the

season opener, and Will looks just the hero. What's give me some of that music, Ricky, give me some of that too. No, well, here's a kicker. It's true. I kind of like, I kind of like alright, let's roll with it. Will LUTs bangs of fifty eight yard field goal at the gun, uh, lifting the New Orleans Saints to a thirty to win over the Texans. An incredible

game featuring two quarterbacks playing at their peak. Drew Breesh got LUTs in position to drill that kick with some really fine QB play in the last thirty seven seconds of playing time. It only got to that point where the Saints are behind because my, my goodness, Deshaun Watson goes to place seventy six yards and hits Kenny Stills to shock the Super Dome into silence. Uh. There, there was so much drama in this game, west really really

good football. There was a lot of sloppy football throughout the week, but this one was kind of an instant classic and the Saints come out on top. One of the best Monday night games I've seen. Due to my own um habits on Monday night watching game pass, I didn't come in to the reiving room to watch with Lakisha until the Hopkins passed at the end there, and I felt like I watched the whole game after that,

and it was only it was incredible. I was amazed at I guess I shouldn't be at this point at the Shawn Watson's just uncanny ability to play his best when he's behind in a tough situation. It reminds me so much of the Week sixteen game against the Eagles, where he led a great comeback but then the defense couldn't hold it at the end and Romeo Cornell that the coordinator who had such a great first half ultimately saw the Texans defense, which was very good for all

of last year, totally collapse on itself. Gave up twenty seven second half points. Kind of a vintage Drew Brees comeback in second half performance. And the soft coverage that they played on the final past New Orleans crew was just brutal. If you're a Texans fan too, have done so many good things in that game and still loses time. Wake me up in the game where the soft coverage scenario in the final mid and a half against the Hall of Fame quarterback works out for you. It's very rare.

I this game is one of those ones and held of everything. Along with DeAndre Hopkins starring as an actual player, he unfurled a German supplex on a Saints player, which was enjoyable to watch. Um Taysom Hill got first the first of his seven touchdowns. Bring me simmses but off to a good start and all I want to see is how are you gonna use players? And it gave

me a good sense. Come out of the game a little concerned about both secondaries, but It was a bit of a victory for Bill O'Brien even in the loss that Kenny Stills played an integral big part. And I'm not too worried about the Laramie Tunsil situation. Yet he gave up. He did not play an ideal game at all. But it feels like it would be hard in a way that we never understand to jump in as a left tackle on a team in an offense with like

four or five days to prepare. It was a great start by those running backs to Duke and Carlos Hide. Especially Carlos Hide look pretty good for a guy who's been given up for if times, they looked like a perfectly competent one to punch the uh. I believe the Texas ran for a hundred and eighty yards and the and the Saints had not given up more than a hundred and twelve all of last season, so they moved

the ball on the ground. Pass protection remains a major issue for Houston, and yeah, we'll see if Tounzil straightens himself out. He got beat on a really bad um third down crucial play late in the game, but that that plays like a good example of why it's tricky sometimes to blame the tackles. They you know, the pass rusher headers can jump the snap. I mean he was off and that's that has nothing to do with the

tackle and Watson. I wouldn't say that sack is exactly as fault, but he went back about eleven or twelve yards. The idea is you want to push the guy behind your quarterback, and Tonsil even pushed him. And I would say, the how many sacks were they were there six six in that game. At least two of them are on Watson. That's just part of his playing style. That the line didn't play well either. I'm not defending it, but but

it wasn't all well. I just my concerned the pressure came from both sides, you know, and that's not it just it wasn't It was not a clean game on it. How long can he last? And everyone's asking the same question on Twitter, but you know he's he's he's clearly got a back issue by the time that game ended from that touchdown running had and this stuff is the kind of way he plays is gonna in fight injuries.

It was a brilliant performance by Watson and you know, I as we know, if you listen to this podcast. I've been pumping up the Texans all season, and I just think that it's been too often overlooked how great this guy is. And I think maybe Monday and Last Night changes that because that's such a big audience watching it and he starts to finally get recognize for being a truly special talent um And and that's to me when I look at the a f C South and I know their own one, so own one his own one.

But the X factor in the division to me is the Texans have the Shaun Watson and the other teams don't. And I think that's gonna make the difference if he stays healthy. Question mark of course, um, I don't think

any of these other teams catch the Texans. I think that when I specifically talk about the holes on their roster, I'm guilty of overlooking how special Deshaun Watson and DeAndre Hopkins are and j J. Watt just because he had one game where he didn't make much of an impact, he's still special to I mean, I think that depth is important, but but also stars win games. But he also needs to be j J. Watt because without Jadevan clowney.

Maybe he's getting a little more attention. Ryan Ramchuk totally shut him down as was one of J. J. Watt's, you know, worst career games, and then where are your special plays coming from? Because eventually that secondary kind of cloud. It was a vintage Watson performance and I think one reason he got overlooked this offseason is final impressions that we had of him last year the playoff game. And

it's the same thing with Drew Brees. I think we overrated how the end of last year went on some level just because in the end, he was the second best quarterback on balance in the NFL last year and even in this game, like he isn't the story and they put up yards in twenty seven halftime. I can have point he's part of a bigger system. He's got great players around him, but I think he can run that system. This game did not make me feel better

about Drew Brees. I think it's a privilege to watch today's veteran quarterbacks uh in clock management at the end of the game because they've taken it down to a science, whereas thirty years ago that wasn't a thing. But the field has condensed for the Saints offense. It just has

since since the first half of last year. They're playing on a smaller field and they need Alvin Kamara and Michael Thomas to be special because Drew brees arm isn't what it was, But he didn't attempt to pass over thirty yards until that Tedkin forty yards shot in the final two. I hear you. It's just they had a two plays over forty yards, another over third, two more over thirty. It's just the bar is so high with them. It's like it's not fun to watch. And maybe he's not.

Their margin for airs just a little smaller than it was. And I would be worried if I was them, about their defensive tackles and their run defense, and and maybe a few things about one little thing. And Dan, you pointed out that this is a Twitter victory. I loved that ESPN. And you know, I think Monday to Football

is under a fair amount of pressure. To put it mildly, like they unfurled this um for this down and distance marker that was bright yellow, and so if you've watched football for more than five weeks, your eye is thinking penalty, and so you're drawn to what the drama is and there's none because it's second and five. But by halftime they ESPN put out a tweet saying we heard you. We followed the drama and Will Brinson got one of these tweets that gets retweeted like seventy five billion times,

and you know, that was a nice move. But then what happens there is they went and changed went No he I think that led to the change because they saw these viral tweets said this thing is a mess, and they changed the graphics. Will, who's a friend of the show, is as savvy as they get on Twitter, and he went with the old hey, retweet or favorite if you want. Uh, the ESPN to change their ways and yeah, I thought you had a great tweet because you're like this like down in distance mark or is

it on anyone else's ready? Oh? Yes, everyone else is already on top of the print an influencer. Oh till not the game on tumbler. Check out Princeton on tumbler. It does not get any better than then, and t can we go to your corner? Yes, let's do it. That coveted numbers two spot behind justin Tucker. It's Will LUTs right, he did miss a kick as well today at that I don't put him on that that that

referee time situation forced them into a field goal. They should not have the league apologize for that three kicks. Ross has got to show me more beyond one year. Roses is number six. Who's there with Tucker and let's put me on the spot there, Chris, let me think about that. Get back to maybe all right, maybe hit another six yarder for the extra get another L in your name. I think that's a that's a red flag.

Let's well with one. A lot of misspellings. Game. First thing, go with the four car under center, I formations, fins, hands off, Jacobs over the right site, digging, turning. He's in for the touchdown. I don't know how we burrowed. I don't know how he shot marine, but somehow he stakes into the end zone. That's a touchdown run of four. The Raiders extend their leader. I'm a fourth quarter over

Denver browed Kevin Harlan Westwood one. He's so good. I mean, that's a four yard touchdown run and he makes it sound like it was the the greatest game that was ever played. What was that playing with the Giants and was it packersts It does get too quickly at this point we should They had seven turnovers in the first half, five lost bumbles in the greatest sloppy game ever played. I see you called Giants calmed down anyway. Derek Carr threw a touchdown pass on the opening drive of the season.

Josh Jacobs ran for two scores. The Raiders with the Antonio Brown fiasco swirling around them, humble the Denver Broncos sixteen on Monday night in Oakland, the final Monday night football game in Oakland before the team moves to Vegas. And it is such a crime, Um and Greg, this was This is a in terms of six teen, as big a beat down as you can get. I just thought the Raiders had their way with Denver and it

was that way from the jump. And all the things you thought would happen, uh, namely that the Broncos defense would give the Raiders fits, none of that came to fruition and instead the Raiders just kind of went up and down the field. At May the the Broncos had a Ghoston. Longtime listeners of the podcast will remember we named a zero sack, zero QB hit game from an entire team as a Ghoston maybe a lot we should call it now, but you know, couched on the team

that you were breaking news. Patriots are training wide receiver to Marius Thomas to the New York Jets for six round a pen that doesn't pass the smell test. What it is? I will say this, it is news. I mean you have broken it, so it is now breaking news. So we normally we would wait till the end of the conversation. We just started since ultimately no one's gonna listen to it for three hours, just talking like logistics. But it was the Jets and Pats involved. It's kind

of fun and sexy. Yeah, we get getting your Mark said good to know I what I you did not in your I am client to us suggests that it was breaking news. You gave us the update that this had happened, which I very much appreciate. I said, good and I dash dash at Dan Hansas for you to pick up at another time. Erico did it a very capable job of breaking the non breaking news. Anyway, to Marius Thomas, who was the odd man out there. Now that Antonio Brown is in town, goes to the Jets,

so I guess are looking for depth. There's someone's hurt that we don't know about yet. I don't know that he could just I mean, it's a sixth round pick, like one year after Adam Gates gets fired. So it's not a huge feeling pretty good about yourself. I'm not. I'm just saying it is rattling, rattling cages, rattling cages. All right, let's get back to Monday Night football. Uh. Yes, the Raiders Broncos. No answer for this was just John

Gruden's ideal game. He's all about completions, short completions, getting rid of the ball, being decisive. Derek Carr had one of his best games in years in Gruden like, this is exactly what God wants to do, ball control with passing, and they're You're right. They didn't really have much of an answer for it. This Raiders team, I really do believe is different than a year ago, even without Antonio Brown.

I just think they've upgraded their talent to a a normal level where they that was not the case a year ago. And I think you saw Mike my X draft class be a factor, and I just think they're gonna be a competitive team this year Font's perfect, like a lot of their pickups had a big impact in this game. I thought it was telling the way that they from the very beginning used Josh Jacobs, who we didn't really see on Hard Knocks that much and at all. Right,

so he twenty three carries. The rest of the team outside of car had three, DeAndre Washington and Jalm Richard, So that is, you know, if you picked him up on Fantasy, good for you. I forget all that the numbers, And I thought, Derek Carr, who gets we we give him lots of compliments on this show, but I don't think that he's accepted as a premier quarterback by most.

He had one of those games. And they mentioned a rich Gannon game that happened in the early two thousands of the year they went to the Super Bowl, where Brian Greasy mentioned it because he was the Broncos quarterback. I randomly was at that game when I lived in Denver, and what occurred in that game with rich Gannon was that I believe he broke the consecutive completions record. I had a few in me along with my cohorts, but

it was like twenty one straight passes. So is that kind of Raiders night because it had an old school feel. And I feel for the Broncos fans because you walk into a game like at and it's one of those games where the entire and Dan I think you dealt with this on Brown's Jets last year in primetime, almost anyone that didn't have a super tight Denver rooting interest kind of fell in line and wanted the Raiders to sweep Denver up in this game and just drop him

with a hammer. And I enjoyed watching it. I've never really been been a Raiders guy, but I could found myself pulling so hard for them to win, and I loved the game. My first note on this game was, Raiders are flying around the field like the two thousand thirteen Seahawks. Uh, definitely playing with more energy than a normal game. How long does this last? And the last the whole game? They they brought it the whole game. The crowd brought it the whole game. This was exceptionally

well coached. Jimmy g was the only quarterback to get rid of the ball faster on average than Derek Carr did in Week one. Their offensive line was superb and I've been killing that offensive line. They shoved it down my throat. They're playing without their two starting guards and still shut out that Denver front seven. I mean, what else do you need to know than the drive? In

the second order, Oakland takes over at the five. I believe they get two false start penalties or two penalties takes them back to the one and a half or two yard line, and then they just march straight down the field for a touchdown. And yes, kudos to the game plan. Get the ball out of Car's hands quickly to to you know, negate the pad or neutralize the

past rush with Von Miller and Bradley Chubb. But if I'm John Elway and they showed l I don't know if you guys caught the final minutes of the game camera right in Elway's face on the sideline and then he did not like it on him. But if I'm lay, I'm sitting here scratching my head and I'm thinking I can't get anything right. I got Joe Flacco, or get to him in a second, who's not able to lift the offense. I thought he would be the guy for me,

and then this defense. I bring in Faggio to be the missing piece to take this defense to the next level, and they can't beat up on the Raiders. I'd be very concerned if I'm a Broncos fan. It's just one game. The only thing that makes people out to be bigger fools, uh than Week one is week too. So we'll see how they look next week. But this was not a promising in Fngio now has to go play the Bears defense next week, which is an interesting time frame there.

And one little tiny note on Fongio and that I'm done with this, Like the look I get. The coaches have their own um style and they want to wear what they want to wear, and Fongio wants to be flexible and comfortable and have you know, free reign of body motion during the game. But the sweatshirt with this gigantic sort of um Batman and Robin esque, you tell utility belt. I don't know what's in all the little

pockets taste back to the early nineties. Andy Reid is employed that at times, but it's it's not We need to rethink from the ground up the overall aesthetic that that if you if you're gonna be winning, no one everyone's gonna embrace it. If you're gonna lose games, you need to be looking sharp. Well you know what this is though, we just talked about in a recent show head coaches looking hotter than they're getting to the gym. They're doing the facial hair, they have jawlines. Now, Uh,

they care what they look like on the sidelines. Faggio is a throwback. I mean, he's a first year head coach in the sixties, so he's a bit of a throwback to a guy. It's like, I just want to I'm all, I'm built for comfort, not style. I want to win football games. It didn't work out on my day night clothing. I'm not talking. I'm not you're saying, you're you. I'm not asking. I'm not asking him to go exercise necessarily. But but we can do more. And we've learned even in this room that if we up

our fashion game, things can change. Not all of us know that, some of us I believe that fair. It's fair to question Vic Fongio calling defensive plays from the sideline when he's never done that in his entire career, and at the vantage point in which he was calling plays before, I think probably was an assist to him. I think it's also fair to question why almost no head coaches in NFL history have called defensive plays from the sideline, because it's impossible to actually run your team

and worry about offense. He's saying, I'm just passing offense off to old Skangs. Well, Skanking says doesn't have many pelts on the wall either. He can he can, he can call whatever he wants. I just think in general that's problematic because what made fan Joe great, you're taking that away and you can't really manage the whole team. I actually didn't think the Broncos defense was that bad. This was well, they were invisible. They couldn't make it.

I hear you, turnovers, no hits. Here's how many possessions the Raiders had. They had seven. The Broncos had eight, and they either kicked a field goal or missed one on six of them. Like they just didn't have the ball that much. They moved the ball in the second half. They think they look fine in the second half. They kind of woke up from the preseason. You gotta be better in the red zone. It was boring to watch, but the difference between Flacco and car to me was

really big. Flacco in the first game in a new system in Car. Now in the second year, you could just see how much calmer and how quicker he was processed. I mean, find me a number lower than zero to describe Joe Flacco's Q rating during that game. I mean, whenever he came on the fields, when I go, if I have are things I need to go do, that's when I go take care of Yeah, you you tweeted, well, let's be ready for state of Flacco. Yeah, let's cue up West for state of flac. Oh. Yeah, this was

a candidate for the team of West l here. Well, it was uninspiring was the word I would use. And if he plays like that all year, I don't care about the one oh five passer rating. Dave Shawn Hamilton's dropping an easy touchdown, his right tackle goes down, and then it was at the very next play that the stubstitute gives up a third down sack. So a lot of things going against him, But uninspiring is the word I would use. He held the ball too long in the red zone. Uh, some of those sacks were his

own fault. Um. I thought that it was uninspiring. And if he plays like that, all year, Lay and I are both taking big els, especially since Elway they put this big message on the board before the game. Lay quote, our season rests on the shoulders of Joe Flack. I mean, Joe Flacco is the Peyton Manning statue in the pocket, the not at the actual good News West if the sheriff, if Joe Flacco does flap flop, only one of you probably gets fired. So well, we'll see we should else.

Why do you throw them? Probably in there, my you never know, take on wrong. It could go very wrong. You never know what any like figure we need to talk to you about. Here's state of Flacco right now. I have a feeling I'm only gonna like watching this team during home games, alright. Not a good road quarterback, not a good thing. I don't think the Broncos have played well on the road period in the last few years, and I always fall for them in home games, and

that's my fault. All right. There you go those recap the final Week one games. Let's now do some news. Baker just literally just says, want one yard in row. I'm just gonna banging on you because you're big. I don't know that's funny to me. I just think it's funny. In fact, I wouldn't hear it again. We Bregy Binker just literally just says, run of one yard in row.

I'm just gonna banging on you because you're big. I think he's talking about David N. Choke who, but he could be talking about a variety of things, so he is potentially talking about the tight end. Um. All right, let's get to the news. Starting with Yes, the Jaguars, who plays Nick Foles on injured reserve? He he can still come back, but even that is uncertain at this point. Jacksonville moves him uh to I R with that broken left collar bone he suffered in the first quarter of

Sunday's lost to the Chiefs. As we know, the only other quarterback on the roster in Week one was Gardner Minshew, the sixth round pick, who played quite well Simson and even uh In in relief. But who knows if that's going to continue. Unlikely to continue, let's be honest, So Josh Dobbs also joins the fray. The Jags announced on Monday they traded for the former Steelers back up Um, a fifth round pick. In goes back to Pittsburgh's or

dabs uh enters a depth chart behind Minshew. So the job is Minshew's for the time being, uh considerably, Um, you know a significant amount of time being Mark Sessler, if I'm if I'm Gardner, Flint Minshew too. I am not concerned about Josh Dobbs. Let's start right there. And you know, we just got done talking about Derek Carr. Gardner Minshew twenty two of twenty five with two touchdowns.

And I have never in my life had a backup quarterback emerge out of the shadows where suddenly I don't know, but you guys, I'm getting tweets about Minshew saying, you guys don't understand. This dude has the it factor. He lit it up in college. He was with Mike Leach at Washington State. People that have been around him just say they love him, and they and that the entire Washington State team gathered together with Leech to find out

what was going on during this game. He is one of these dudes the people like a pied piper figure get behind. He's immediately become my second favorite player in the NFL. And I'm going to be drafting Jaguars games very early on. Thursday, because I like the whole energy. No, because facial hair comes and goes. It's about what's inside the soul and what I think I see in him. So let's start with there, and Josh Dobbs have a nice time sitting on the pine over under a month before.

You're still picking Jaguars games as you're high on yourself. All depends on what they do with Gardner Flintmanshoo too. Uh. Doug Marone told Iron Eagle and Dan Foults the Beard and the Bird to those of you out there who still remember that, uh, that this guy can sling it. There's no question about his arm strength. I think Fault gave him a lot of credit for reading the blitz

is in that game. That's promising, and I thought it was interesting he was going to transfer to be a backup at Alabama because he wanted to be a graduate assistant under Nick Saban. This guy's thinking ahead so that he's that sort of quarterback that one. It's like, hey, he's a coach on the field, which usually those guys end up being coaches. Well you know, by the way, ena being Kevin O'Connell or Greg mel fitthan Heisman Trophy voting and the recipient if the Johnny United Scholden Arm Award,

which is given to older college players i e. Seniors. No, but those guys usually don't come in and have the first you know week in the NFL performance that he that that performance should absolutely grab our attention and want to see Foles is getting fuls. Wow. Henry Hodgson, the vice president of International here at NFL Media, UH sent me a tweet from a gentleman named Chris Kaufman. He co hosted a Dolphins podcast and Uh, Kaufman throughout the question,

who does Gardner Minshew look like to you? And there's a couple of good answers here. Um, he looks like the mechanic that comes to the waiting room shaking his head saying you need your engine to be completely rebuilt. He looks like the dude that abandoned your sister after he knocked her up, but he's back now, has a great job with a cable company and really wants to make things right. Uh. He looks like the tag along brother of your best high school but after he got

out of community college. He does have that every man look that you can get behind. And I think for better worse, he sneaks up on you. They do expect falls back. This case, he's snuck up on the Chiefs. Maron believes they'll be back, maybe as early as week eleven. That's that's the first week he's that's a long time. Yeah, well, let's see where Doug Moron is by week eleven. I mean, I I wish him well, but that's what that is. You and miniche Meta are both on the same corner. No,

I've actually spoken. Doug Maron is one of the few coaches that when I've approached him at a league event, was actually nice to me versus trying to swap me away like an insect fly into the air. He's three times the size of you. He is a massive human. Beginning of the i R bad news for the Eagles, the fetes of tackle Malik Jackson expected to be a placed on injured reserve after suffering a significant foot injury. That's how the team termed it, and Sunday's opener against

the Redskins. UH decordinator Philly Jim Schwartz said, Yeah, we'll probably be without him for a while. Malik is an important part of what we do and we will certainly miss him, so next man up. In all that, according to NFL Network, Jackson has Liz Frank's surge coming up next week and it is an injury that should wipe out his entire season. Big setback was yeah, it is, and because he's a good player, but not every team has a Timmy Journ again sitting on the bench waiting

to jump right into the starting line. App and Jarnakin had a big sack that would have knocked the Redskins out of field goal range if not for a Derek Barnett penalty in that game last week. They're a little thinner though, I think on the defensive line in general than they have been the last couple of years. There, I would say that's definitely true at defensive end, and

now because of this injury, that's true at defense. That game got a lot of attention because of the way the Redskins jumped out early when no one expected it. But if you go look at what happened when the Eagles kind of got out of their own way, three of their four drives in the second half went for

one zero in four yards. They totally shut the Redskins down. Um. Meanwhile, at the dog Pound Cleveland Brown star O'Dell Beckham Jr. Said he continued he plans to continue wearing the one ninety thousand Richard Millie hundred ninety dollar Richard mill Millie. I don't know. I read it was a three hundred and fifty dollars has been reappraised sin then time piece, so watch that the league reached out to him about and said, hey, bro, I don't know if you can

wear a watch on the field. He says, I want to keep wearing it. I will keep wearing it, and he added Tuesday that the NFL is singling him out. Your girl, your woman, excuse me. Mark Mary kay Cabot reported that Beckham said, today if Tom Brady was wearing this watch, nobody would say anything. Tom Brady wouldn't be wearing on h LL watch, keep your focus on the field, and market has nothing to do with the Browns. This guy's been driving me crazy for years, and this is

the type of stuff that drives me crazy. This feels like it's pulled from a time machine, from a giant's game from because he has been totally quiet and nothing but a model citizen and not saying this makes you not a bad citizen. But it's but we don't need why does anyone needs? This is the tight rope that being someone that comments on professional football walks when a story like this comes out, and especially with Odell Beckham

getting paid. If you if you criticize, if you criticize Odell Beckham or a player for doing something this, you're you. You are presented as someone from the establishments, someone who doesn't get youth culture. But no, it's not that. It's just like, this is stupid and you just got your ass kicked in week one and you don't need to make a story about yourself and certainly don't need to be bringing up Tom Brady's name and saying that you

are somehow being singled out. It's just unnecessary. It's not the end of the world. No, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. But this is the type of stuff with Beckham that comes with the package, and it's not always great. Am I The only one that when I read this was like if I even owned a watch, which I don't like, and it was that expensive.

Is the first thing I don't go do being an athletic event where it's like getting scuffed by helmets and like getting you know, smashed into dirt and grass, Like I don't need better be getting paid for it because they are getting an exceptional amount of free advertising. I mean, I assume he's getting paid for the would it would only be I would only wear it if you could knew you could get another free one. Uh, you know, after Cameron Wake's helmet cracks it or whatever could happen.

Does that we're advertising it? How is it for? What worth it? If the goal here is to get a free watch? Is it worth just having to answer questions from the media for a week straight straight? But I just don't understand other watches. I didn't know there was rules against wearing Who was Richard Millie? Why did you say have to answer questions from the media. He's in the spotlight, he's getting attention. Why would you wear I don't know why you'd wear I don't just the whole thing.

It's I don't have time for. Antonio Brown came around, came along at this this new souped up Antonio Brown in the last year or so, and blew Odell Beckham away. I just worried about ob Obi j getting a little like you know, jealous and be like, no, I'll show you what it means to be a petulant wide I mean watch petulants. He's just being trying to be stylish. There.

That's fair. That after me is the establishment. It's funny because it's fun Hey, if you've got to talk about it, you know, I'm saying, there is everything, everything is black and white with this stuff. I don't think it's black and white. I I do think that rich guys, and Tom Brady is one of them. The first thing they do when they go to the meeting, like the Rich Guy Club meeting, They're like, let's get super into watches. Let's care about the differences between them, let's know everything

about watch culture, and let's just dive in. Where whereas for twenty five years of our life we didn't care about watching the other object. I know this from traveling overseas to an area in Rome or somewhere Italy where people were shopping NFL players men's um handbags that costs like five dollars and thinking that we could help pay for it on our NFL stipend. No, I can't even buy ice cream cone in Italy for how much it cost? All right, speaking of Antonio Brown, Bill Belichick. All right,

here we go, boys, everybody, let's do this right. Bill Belichick ac spoke on Antonio Brown. He was asked about it during a conference call um this week, and everyone's saying, well, what this this Brown? This guy destroys locker rooms. He he, He is petulant. He's a guy that you can't trust. And what do you think about that? Bill, That's the guy you bring into your locker room. That the same thing you said about Randy Moss when we got brought

him in. So when asked if outside issues affect the team's ability to win, there's no way for me to know what's inside every person's mind. That's up to each of us individually, but collectively we try to get ourselves in the best physical, mental, and emotional state to go out there and play as well as we can once a week and so on and so forth. Um. I do have we talked about a little bit on on Sunday.

Might have gotten lost in the everything else, but I do have this this horrible, deep, um dark feeling within my soul that this is gonna work out exquisitely to New England Patriots. At first, I was all in on the idea of the Trojan horse and that Brown was gonna come in and do Brown things and destroy the Patriots from within. No, he is going to be a monster on the team that's going to win many, many, many games. I I have no idea what's going to happen,

because it's football. What do you think and how could you? What do you think the most likely uh outcome is here, given the past history of this organization, which by the way, is a testament to them, the most likely outcome is this works out, Yeah, for a year and then that's probably it. Whereas in Randy Moss, people forget kind of wore out his welcome and was a pain in the neck after three or four years, three years it wasn't even the most rebellious wide receiver on his own team.

Jerry Porter was. But you know, Jerry Port, when we're Belichick and we're gonna paint all the media as one entity as if we're all lem Pascarelli answering for this for for what it's worth. This was after this was like the third follow up question, and in his answer was the least surprising thing ever. And I believe it to be true that Okay, there is a calculus. I'm only gonna take on so many of these guys. But he said ultimately late he's not worried about what happened

in other locker rooms. That he's worried about if if someone works hard and if someone has a good you know added you know, works hard at their craft. That was Randy Moss's problem. Randy Most admitted to trying so little that he got himself out of the Raiders. He also said, I would like to you know back then he was. He basically admitted, I'm trying to get out of there, and he kind of just put it in a half effort for half a season and eventually they listen.

I don't think they're worried about effort when it comes to Brown. I think they're just confident that they have the structure that it'll be fine, and if it's not, that they can just cut them. And by the way, I mean, why shouldn't Belichick have complete confidence that that is the case, because it's like they are the one team that has proven they can get players accountable and

wired them a certain way. And in West I'm sorry, but I also don't care what Belichick thinks about the media because the way the Patriots are treated in certain ways, they are treated differently. That Belichick could shrug off the entire media as one balloons sing king over the sea, and I just don't have a big problem with it. I don't think his job is to give a crap

about the media at all. Can I just point out that Belichick is lying through his teeth about what he says he doesn't care about what happens in other locker rooms. That is true only if you are in all pro caliber talent, then he doesn't care what happens in other locker rooms. But for all the other player he scouts and does his due diligence on, he does care about what happens. And of course I mean he. I think he learned this lesson early on with Lawrence Taylor, who

maybe shaped his career more than anyone. If there was a guy who broke more team rules and norms of what you would expect your player to do in terms of professionalism, it was Lawrence Taylor. And you know what, they bent over backwards to basically allow his drug abuse try to work with him, um because they believed in him as a player. It was just that's just the reality. They liked it. They liked the person too. I mean, it was tricky, but Lawrence Taylor wasn't just simply the

football player was the part. I mean, the idea of that you have different rules for different players, especially exceptional players, the idea that that's not the true on every team is ridiculous. Phil Jackson during his time with the Bulls.

I just read this the other day. Dennis Robin, who was as uncontrollable a figure as there was in the NBA in that era, certainly, um he had different rules for rodn and for different personalities, to the point where he would be fine with Dennis Robin going to Vegas and going on and all night bender U during the NBA Finals, just make sure you're back here for the game, because he thought in Dennis and Dennis Rodman's mindset that

that would make him a better player. And the fear again, the fear, because that's what's the worst thing about this for me, is that the Patriots are gonna get better. Is that Belichick intrinsically understands this, and Lawrence Taylor is a perfect example. Belichick was on that staff and he'll know the right buttons to push with Antonio Brown in the way that Mike Mayock and John Gruden did not. Well.

To take your comparison one step further, the only reason that Phil Jackson Dennis Robin dynamic worked was because Michael Jordan was there to instill order and keep keep a tight lid on Dennis Robmin just like Tom Brady is there in New England. Sure An Brown and taken selfies together. And I think the time aspect is crucial because I think the Patriots are are fine managing with these guys who are a little different than the rest of the team for a shorter amount of time, and then they

increasingly think, okay, that's the expiration date. They We did find out he has a second year on his contract, which is up to New England if they want to have the option. But even a guy like Chandler Jones, who was the last guy um who got in any real you know, like had any issues with teammates or anything, there was sort of an expiration date with him because he marched to the to the beat of his own drummer.

And and then they get rid of you. All right, that's what's happening in the news, all right, Before we turn all our energy toward week two and beyond. Let's uh take one look, one more look back at week one with a little by hold cell or is it by cell hold? I think it's by cell hole, the hold being the third typically the third option, I would imagine all the middle. It's like the porridge in the middle. I mean, but am I wrong? I feel like, yeah,

it's exactly understand Well, we've renamed it to something else. Okay, all right, wind Loser draw after week one, buy cell hold? Remember that game show? Yes? Yes, well I mean not. Isn't it functionally in our life? Day after dating? I do remember? Was it was it? Like? Remember that was like when you had the home version. Got a couple of b listers in there? All right, Bert Reynolds pre Boogie Nights might have popped up in a wind Loser draw.

Oh yeah, yes, pre Boogie Nights. Here we go post smoking the bandit pre Boogie Nights, very dark period for Bert. It's big window there. All right, Here we go by by cell hold. Greg will start with you. I'll throw a bunch out. Um. We talked this out before the show, So I'll just tee you guys up and then you let me know by cell Hold will start with Greg Jimmy G. Concern for Jimmy Garoppolo after a week one performance. I'm buying concern if that's what I am concerned until

proven otherwise. And it's the first game and he's coming back from a tour and a c L. It was telling to me they I mean they ran more runs then passes in that game. There's an ugly pick six. He missed a lot. I would say I think he probably I would say he had probably one of the four or five I guess. I haven't watched every game, but he was probably one of the worst performances by

a quarterback last week. And the bigger issue is, to me, it's like, Okay, some guys they have good games, bad games, But you see what you used to see from Jimmy G. Or you know you certainly saw from Baker Mayfield. Still five incredible throws in that game, including in the second half. I just had I haven't seen those throws from Jimmy G in a while, and I want you and you definitely didn't see any of them on Sunday against Tampa.

He doesn't want to get hit. Notice this in the preseason noticed this in the game against the Buccaneers, where he's turning his back after he throws the pass immediately he doesn't want to get hit because he doesn't trust his knee. I imagine um, and I think that throughout his career in the limited sample size we have, he's an above average quarterback between the twenties and a blow average quarterback in the red zone. And he's got to

fix his red zone issues. I mean, he's also twenty seven, about to turn twenty eight, so there's only so many more years toixed. This is a very important year for James Garoppolo alright, West Cowboys as a dominant offensive force. By cell Hold, I am buying this. They are drastically different. The Texans are the only team that saw a bigger increase than the roughly increase of offensive plays with shifts and motion that kell him Moore uh used in Week

one compared to what Scott Linahan did last week. They transformed their aw fence. They did not go through the run, they went through the pass. They were extremely pass heavy early on. There were huge tracks of land like watching a Chiefs game. And it wasn't just because it was a Giants defense is because the play caller, and because you've got a lot of weapons. Randall Cobb looks reborn, throwing people around, running well after the catch. Michael Gallup

is in line for a breakout year. They love Blake Jarwin. Troy Aikman was saying that they think he might be the most athletic guy on their offense. They have a lot of weapons on this team, and I even think a guy like Devin Smith on their bench is being under you. It informs why there was less panic around Ezekiel Elliott's situation because it's distinctly a different approach obviously.

And I look at Dak Prescott three full years at quarterback, has never missed a game, twenty three twenty two and twenty two touchdowns over three seasons. I wouldn't be surprised if he hits forty. Wow. So we got the We got the Cowboys as West's Super Bowl pick, which he's loving right now. We got the Raiders back. I like it of need when the big like kind of NFL. Well, the Patriots were not part of that classic age, so maybe they need to, you know, like a big, gigantic

come out of the sky. Land Dallas average twenty one point four points per game. They could jump a full seven points. There can't they wes. I think if you are it limits your offense when you insist on going to establish the run, established the run, established the run. Great website, but maybe not a great that's a philosophy. And twenty nine and and when you had the Cowboys defense, I can see the temptation to do it. But when

you've got a mind like Kellen Moore. And we continue to hear Dak Prescott after he has a perfect passer rating the new opener says he's one of these geniuses out there. You can next teammate. I think that really matters. Mark Jamis Winston flipping the switch under Bruce arians by cell Hold after a woful week one. I'm selling it and it's it's I'm selling with like I'm selling low because I don't know who's buying it at this point.

Because you I I get two years ago, you'd still think that something can happen and there there can be a switch to flip. I don't think there's a switch on the wall and you're in the dark searching around for it. At this point, the guy turns the ball over at anything all essentially everything but Blake Bordles levels and and he's right there and Eli Manning too, and

you know he he he has not he has. He leads the league with Cam Newton over the past three or four seasons with three plus turnovers in a game, which absolutely sabotages you. And you have to at this point assume that he's going to do that three or four times a year that you're gonna lose if you

hope to go ten and six. Three of those losses and you're probably gonna wind up five and eleven instead are because Jamis Winston cannot control what he's doing with the ball, and the whole idea that because Bruce arians was gonna come in and keep the yardage and the electricity of that attack up, but rain In Winston and creates smarter decisions in his mind. He goes out and throws three interceptions against the Niners, and I feel like they dropped a couple to where it could have been

more than three. So I you know, one game in sell it, I'm holding I'm holding bro al right, Well, you're that's a very concerned. I just think it's a very I think it's it's too premature to write off any quarterback. Yeah, I'll hold it. I mean, I haven't come this far. It would be news if you sold. What you hit on Mark is interesting because they were a lot less exploited. It was a bad It was a terrible offensive game in general. He started the game

until just missing throws. None of them look good. Any concern Mark though, that you brought up that you had to buy sell hold of the TNF the team playing on TNF when we're about to have the TNF pre Yeah, it kind of pulls the plug on Tom and side make then. But then it's also an opportunity for more, you know, to skate, just to skate. Got plenty to talk about, all right, Um, now you're gonna think that this was me making the same mistake in a way

doubling up. But it's not because I want to talk about it and get into in depth where we didn't really have the opportunity during the game. Recap the Raiders final season in Oakland. I'm buying man, you know I'm buying the I'm buying Derek. You know I'm buying John Gruden. I'm buying the dirt enfield. The last time we'll ever see a dirt enfield. Potentially, I'm buying the black hole, the real black hole, not the Fugaisi version that they're gonna try to foist upon us in in the desert

next year. And I just think it's not a big enough story. How amazing these fans are that their team is quitting them, and they're like, and I mean this is in a positive They're like the unrequitted love. They're like a golden retriever that they just still love their Raiders. Then they love getting together with their friends and family and dressing up like maniacs and going insane for their team. Now week one, Monday Night football, the electricity is going

to be a higher level. We'll see how it looks if they're you know, foreign seven and in a couple of months. But there's also I would not rule out in the final season in Oakland, based on what we saw in Week one, that the whole city is just gonna rally around this team and send them off, which is really commendable for a fan base. I kind of like Greg also during this this conversation you're having shifting

into what feels like a Raiders esque outfit. But you're right and when they've they've been so deplorable for so long. It doesn't change the way that stadium is. It's an event that they go to every week. It's not like suddenly you're getting you were smirking my entire soliloquy there. What the way they dressed? Have you considered they might just be fetishists? They're great fans. It's a crime the football from Oakland. Not only all that, everything you said

it is true. I guess I'm holding because I think they're gonna be an interesting seven eight win type of team that stays in the make. I don't know what I'm buying here the fans. I'm buying all that. Let me where there's some nice moments. I think it was a potential for the Raiders being a really tough team in their building, which most people would not have expected this year. And I think they could hang around. I love it. I don't think they can play with that

energy all year. But they earned a hold for me in that game. That was a very impassive West. That's saying something, yes, I would I would have said chance for a sale before that game was there's a sliding door scenario where they lost that game for nothing. And I know they have the great I know they have the great history, but they've been worse than they've been as bad as the Browns or any franchise in the

NFL the last two decades. And now and now you had a move to it, which is the one which was the ace up to sleep Browns fans to two points. And I see all you mean girls on Twitter and the different snarky blogs all around. That just killed John Gruden forever, forever and ever. And I don't see any blogs throwing the guys some credit for having a hyper prepared, focused team whip up in Week one without their best

player who tried to ruin the season. Let's give Gruner a little bit of credit for what they were able to do in Week one. But I hear you alright, Hayden, Zach Taylor dragging Andy out of the Dalton scale. Bye, I've got to buy I'm feeling the weak one fever where we overreact that after all these years, Andy Dalton's gonna be I got the waters going to the super Bowl. So I don't know. I'm at least into I've been into Zach Taylor all offseason. We're trying to raise this

guy's CU rating. No one knows what he looks like. Let's hear it. Let's here for skinny uh five nine guys being head coaches in the NFL. I don't know. Maybe he is. He looks like it when he's next to all the players that they were. They were not the Rams offense, by the way. It wasn't all the three wide receivers. There's tight end screens, there's a lot of things going on, there's vertical passes there by in Andy Dalton, man, he just looks so comfortable and decisive

for that one game. And I know maybe they had a schematic advantage of Seattle and never seen them before that. I'm at least if he can may John rossa thing. I'm just hoping he can make Andy Dowton the thing. I'm with you. I'm buying because I you know, watch that from end to end on Sunday and they changed my feeling about them. But Greg, I not to suggest that you were projecting here a little bit. Zach Taylor is six too. Yes, that shocking, I am. Some guys

look shorter than they are. Some things don't need to be said, West, but we want to hear your opinion one. Well, I don't think that offensive line is gonna be able to hold up for much longer, and I don't think the schemanic advantage that they had in Week one will stay. And John Ross's game was about as flukey as the receiver's game gets. How dare he was open more in

that game than he was in entire career. But Thompson isn't gonna miss time a jump every time they have a sixty five yard bu But you're not gonna get a flee flicker wheel route every week for a long touch. His His speed, though, is game breaking speed, and he was open a lot. He dropped two passes, which is, you know, game breaking speed. The last two years too, no more green, and that offense didn't fall apart. It was impressive. I'm just saying I'm selling them as that's

gonna be repeatables. Sammy Watkins long awaited breakout year by cell hold after a monster Week one, I'm buying that was as quick uh as he's looked in traffic and explosive after the catch as I've ever seen him since coming out of Clemson, when he was hyped as you know, the next great wide receiver. I think that probably for the past year and a half, he's had the most unfair advantage of any wide receiver in the NFL, playing

with Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey, and Patrick Mahomes. And he he admitted that after the game that look, I was open for those two long plays because of Tyreek Hill, and then after Hill's injury, he was the chain moving number one receiver who who was still getting open and making plays after that. I think he's a transformed guy. He talked about finding balance in his life. They're traveling all over the world this offseason. He seems like a guy who came to camp ready for a huge year,

and I think he's gonna have it. I mean, spent his year catching footballs from you know, jabronies in Buffalo to start his career. And at this point, I'll buy anything in Kansas City's offense. You could throw almost any scenario at me, I'll buy it. I'm selling. I mean, he's been on two of the total Greg Well, here's the thing. He's been on two of the great the best offenses in football the last two years, and he didn't gain more than six hundred yards in either season.

So I've just seen him have these monster games here and there throughout his career. I want to see it more. Has two already. Uh, who's turn? Let sir, sure you could skip me if you want, it's your turn. That's what I thought. Mark Adam Gaze's quote unquote electric as Sam Donald put it a couple of weeks ago, Jets offense by sell Hold, I'm certainly not selling because they played a defense last week that I think we'll go down once again as one of the best in the league.

And it's week one and you know, Donald just maybe someone that could have used out that you want to do this and throw him into the fire a couple more quarters in the preseason to get a little more on track. I think Gaze and I could be completely wrong about this is maybe one of these guys that keeps getting chances sort of the way Belichick did over and over by people because someone somewhere believes in him.

He's almost like um, like one of these old painters that was a mad genius that had a patron, some sort of rich patron that would backed them and basically give them. You know, there's uh. There was a Flemish painter, Peter Peter Paul Rubens who had the Duke of Mantua that just paid him to do paintings forever and we never would know he was that this one guy didn't believe. And I think that maybe the Jets, you know, the Johnson family, saw something in Gaze that others don't and

maybe it goes totally south. But I'm not out on Gaze. I'm still buying on Gaze. I'm totally buying on Donald because the guy is like twenty three years old. I mean, it's there are other people coming into twenty two. There's other people coming into the lead. He get twenty four and not starting until twenty five or twenty six, and we've seen too much from Donald to like at this. I'm gonna give Donald some tough love here. I was gonna talk about it on Thursday, but might as well

do it here. Um. There were two times in his career so far where um, he really had a chance to play some hero ball. The first one was mentioned that Browns game in Week three last year where they got the ball back and the sky was falling, but it was too soon. He was he was a baby. Jeremy Bates was his offensive coordinator. Todd Bowls is prominently involved, gave momulligan on that and they weren't able to move

the ball down field. They got the ball back down seventeen sixteen, uh with three minutes to play in their building, and they had no kicker, and they went and got fighting by the way today to replace Carrie of Dvick. So we'll see how that goes. But they had no kickers, so they were in a tough spot. But what I really wanted to see in that moment with some growth from Donald and for him to leave the Jets down

the field and maybe steal that game back. The fact that he went two for seven and they turned it over essentially downs at the end of the game, UH was disappointing to me, and I that that annoys me. And it wasn't just him. This team does need more time to gel uh. The offensive line did not play well, could not handle the Bills blitz uh and Gaze was killing the wide receivers this week in the media, h Robby Anderson was getting some strays uh, not directly, but

not running the right routes and not playing at his best. UM. But I just need I'm in hold territory dropped down from a hard buy to a hole, just because I was so disappointed by the way that offense tanked um when they had a chance to put that game way or take it at the end. Well, I'm surprised that you're that you're that you're in that place with them after that game. I mean, it's Donald, That's what I

just didn't think it would change at all. I thought you'd give him another week because it's to me like that final drive was a mess and it kind of reminded me of the way I felt about Trabski after the opener last year against the against the Packers, where he couldn't seal the deal. But uh, well that's a concern.

It is. I don't want a ceilings. I have a little not not that you're going to read the stand, but there's a little Brown's Jets Mayfield Donald summary in this week's on my reading it because I need to move on from well it's quite positive of Donald. Actually, okay,

well then I'll read it. I'm not I think the game was The game was disenchanting, but like I how I could see also you being totally on fire a week from now, literally a week from now, after they beat the Browns on Monday Night football, and you'll be completely back in and acting like it's I'm I'm holding on the offense, but I'm selling on the Adam Gates

press conference experience lasting long term in New York. We talked about this the second he was hiring that his the way he is behind the microphone, how frustrated he gets. I don't know, it's just gonna burn a lot of everything in New York energy and and I don't necessarily think he's slamming all of his players, but he's a lot more critical and just being honest about all of their mistakes without necessarily putting it all on himself. And the media eats that up, and at least some of

the players are gonna eventually not like that. And it's just it's just a cauldron of of a lot that he needs to have some success early. But I do think there those tabloids have already caught fire with gas tears of happiness he's making. This isn't true. I've been saying, I love this cauldron of dude was swirling, you love it. I have been by his press conferences for a long time. You're you're you're masking your true feelings and rooting interests, analysis,

and I see it all. Well, it's just greg of that certainly. Not all right, I'll throw out one more. I am selling on the Jaguars mattering in the a f C. I just I hate what happened. Yes, Gardner Mishu doesn't matter um purpose. Everybody else can think that he's gonna save the day. But you know, west history is instructive when you turn to a sixth round quarterback, if it's not Tom Brady as a rookie, give me the list of guys that have stepped in and turned

into real starters on a week by week basis. And I'm not selling entirely on the Jaguars defense, but I was just like so grossed out by their their performance against the Chiefs. The Chiefs are the best offense in football, yes, but have a backbone in your building in Week one, I was just annoyed. I'm annoyed at their defense for playing so poorly in that spot. And now you what you're asking the Jaguars to do to be relevant? Uh in and and bridge the gap and get back to

Nick Foles potentially in decent shape. Around five hundred, Let's say the Jaguars have to be the Jaguars of old, and they didn't look at anything close to it in Week one. So I'm just gonna say, put the bad quarterback situation with the defense that might be overrated, and this has got six and ten written all over it. I thought someone that who you know, who had bet full meals uh the performance of Chad Kelly would have

a softer approach towards quarterbacks coming in from nowhere to perform. Well, he's different. I mean, that's swag. I would put a sandwich on Josh Dobbs making at least one start before Fools comes back. I wouldn't take you on it because I agree, and I think that Minshew was impressive in relief. But it's a lot different than being in relief. Is a lot different than a defense preparing for you to start a game, and it's not always going to be

against the Chiefs defense that had no pass. I am entirely in all right, All right, here we go, good talk, guys, go get my lunch dot organic four tier. Let's now do a quick two minute drill. That's that's the name of like a podcast segment that no one's come up with yet. So we'll call it the two minute drill. Bucks Panthers, Thursday Night Football, September twelve pm Pacific, eight

pm a twenty eastern. Figure it out if you're in England and the surrounding territories not owned by England, especially not high and you've got access to the anyway, here we go. Jameis Winson coming off that three and I'm starting the clock, Ricky Jamis Winston coming off that three interception debut. Now heads to Charlotte to face the Panthers. To oh and one team's Greg Rosenthal. Uh, someone's gonna come out of this in a really bad way. You

feel good about the Panthers, that's my prediction. Yeah, I do. I do think the Bucks at least have the run defense with um Vita Vea and William Golston and and Domikin Sue up front to maybe slowdine Christian McCaffrey, and I think that's probably job job one of any team trying to stop the Panthers. Bucks play calling had no rhythm with the quarterback, and part of that was how many penalties there were. But there was no rhythm to that passing game. Ronald Jones was perhaps the single most

transformed player I saw in Week one. Last year, he was running in the labre a tar pits, as I texted Mark. This year, he's running through cornfields. You cannot arm tackle this guy, and Peyton Barber will be out of a job very soon. Ronald Jones looked fantastic in Week one. If I'm Todd Bowls, I would treat this game the way that Belichick treated that first Super Bowl with the Rams way back in two thousand and one.

I would just do everything in my power to remove Christian McCaffrey from the game plan and just hang on tight and wait for Cam Newton to think mistakes. He is. He is the type of talent McCaffrey though, where you can't really take He's like Alvin Kamara in the sets that you can try because if you if you bone up to get on the run, they're gonna get him. In the past game, He's just such a talent, all right. But I'm comparing him to Marshall Fulk, who I think

people would have said the same similar things about. Sure the Bucks, though they don't have it, they might have the worst pass rush on paper of any team in the NFL. Their top two pastors are Karl Nasseb and Shack Barrett. They had no pressure on San Francisco. They also gave up fewer yards in that game than any

Bucks game all of last season except for one. So Todd Bowles, who's used to not having many pass rushers, you know, had a pretty good Week one, and I have I'm curious what this Panther's offense is gonna look like. Still Desert likes the Panthers a lot by six plus one. Anybody at the Bucks dump the Panthers. No, that's two minutes. That's the two minute drill. Put a trademark on that. All right, that's it for today's show. We'll be back

on late, you know, late Thursday. We'll have a recap of this game, and then we'll start digging into Week two and preview every game to come. We're in We're in it now, let's fly. Oh well, actually before wait and cut that a second? Uh program note, I believe Thursday, This Thursday is our first we stream the Sunday Night UM Flagship recap of all the games, which did really well, good numbers. I was told by the Shadowy League figures.

So thank you everybody that check that out. We're gonna be doing the same thing starting week two for the Thursday show, so you can. Of course you'll get the audio podcast as you do always, but you also now have the option, uh to watch that live as we record it. We better not one. If we get really lucky, maybe Greg repeats the outfit here and goes hoodie hood

up during the show. I mean this is I'm enjoying the hood I mean that's that We're not on camera today, so it's a beautiful Well, we could be on camera at any moment, isn't that true? You're always on camera? Can you get him on camera? Let's blow this out and get a nice ten minutes segment out quickly on social media. Point, we just fell into the spider web. This is what Greg was looking for. He was looking for a nice viral clip of him with the hook.

Totally dark, addic, Go dark, Go dark. No one will ever foresee this reverse gears all right, here we go, All right. Dan Hanson signing off for Clyde Storm, the Mailman, the Old Boss, Ricky Hollywood, Behind the Glass Phil Thursday Night