Be Around the NFL podcast. It's recognized by no one in the United States. We welcome to the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by Into It Quick Books, official sponsor of the NFL. My name is Dan. Has us come to you from rupe Field with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosental. What is up? Boys? No longer true? I got recognized, uh what was it? Sunday yesterday at a at a bar in uh Her most of Beach, California.
It happens occasionally, young young gentleman Vikings fan walked up and you know, we were listening to a jazz band and he said, hey, uh, great to see you. You you wished my Vikings good luck the other day. Good to see you, and he was very nice. It was it was a nice exchange, but it was it may have been the first time in like five years I've been recognized in this country. What I like to do
is keisha with you. Yes. I set aside some of the personal budget to once a month or so went out with friends or out especially with the significant other like higher someone fortune. It only it's like a charge to have them come up to where I am and just confusively gush over the podcasting work that not only
we do, but that I do specifically. Right, But then they and then there it's a little they act to act nervous and then they shuffle off and you just sort of sit there and act like this happens all the time in America. Again, alright, maybe don't interrupt me while I'm eating, Like, not not what I'm with my family? All right, man, not what I'm with my family? Right? If you see me out and I'm not with the wife and kids, Now, what advantage does this give to you?
It gives an incredible advantage if you're just out with like, like your family is in from out of town and like, you know, a random it's a random nine and a half or ten walks specific I just like I don't interrupt, and they then love you. Conversation happens, and then you just sit there and act like this happens all the time, and then the family is stunned. Now you're held in high esteem. Yeah, I mean it must be manufactured, because
it's not happening organically. Sometimes it's good to have self pop. It feels good. You're like, oh, these things don't matter to me. No, I'm I'm held in such high esteem by everyone I know that like it can't can't go, no doubt? What what matter? Um? I have a few corona takes, all right? Great, I have it on a card. Why you could say it right at the top. You do have some takes, but it says on the top corona takes underlined. So what's the deal with this? Is
this the thing? Now? Is this? Is this a like a like a real thing? Like? Is this you know? Is this it is? Anybody worried about this? I'm worried about whatever is coming in the next three minutes much more. I mean, this has been a topic for months, right, well we should like this idea that we should dance around it. It's it's a thing, that's all. The tipping point has occurred. So my first bullet was, what's the deal?
So you're saying when you say is this it, you're saying, is this like the start of everything unraveling in the human race? The first case of community travel trance, whatever the heck the doctor word is for it today in l A, which there's no connection to them traveling to Italy or all of that. So basically there's no connection which isn't that's the first case in l A today, So that's it's scary, um boll to. This seems like a wind a good opportunity just to end handshakes for good.
Yeah you in history sometimes things are um, things change and to be tamboo random. One thing happens, like the first person I said bless you was tied to something, and then for the rest of the time everybody said bless you. How about just fist pounds from now on? Um about more working from home? Fist found any better than a hand? You're still touching hands. A lot less stuff is happening, A little back of the knuckles. Then it's a little bit more intimate, you know, to me
than he gets credit for. Not every culture shakes hands. Okay, well we could do the bowing though I like bowing. Let's go you curtsy. The owner's meetings are coming up. How about we all get there private jets. Owners are going to private jets. How about all of us essential NFL personnel and we are essential. You're working from home thing?
Hasn't that already started before Corona? Yes, but let's let's really ramp up the idea of working from home in this country and while we're here four day work week. I agree. I'm so on. And one thing everyone should know the listeners that are nervous, is going to lead to a stoppage of our podcast. No, in fact, the throwback podcast in the garage, that thing is safe. Very few people go in the garage, so we would continue to operate from somewhere even if we weren't in this building.
That is That is good all these UH league officials, I think you're coming up with contingency plans. Let's say things get affected next week. People can travel during free agency frenzy. You gotta get, you know, figure out how we're doing the program. We have a plan. We're fine, we already have it and market you know, the owners meetings, it's so far away, three weeks, still that far away
in the Corona time. It is. It could change, It could change for now, how the NFL says, the owners meetings, of which we are planning to attend and interview some coaches and general managers, is on and so are our flights. And Mark, you made a good play before the show final Corona, take the new hero move out there. I think share that with the audience. Well know, that, and you start to see this with um embattled politicians that maybe came in hot early with the messaging around uh
the virus, that they weren't taking it too seriously. Now you're getting these guys left and right the sort of the new age or new the new term, the new White Knight moves to self quarantine. Oh hey, listen, you know I really care about the spread of this. So it's like I'm gonna swell self quarantine inside your you know, immense congressional quarters that you live in. Yeah, your compound with your frilly sheets in your bed, and you're probably a motherboard to bring you any sort of food or
drink you need. Please. I'm just working from home. I'm surprised, Mark. I I can't be the only one. I'm sure some of our listeners share this with me, and maybe you know you guys in this room. As this has been unfolding, I've thought about, like, well, it's happening like that. Mark must be thrilled, like he's been waiting for a global pandemic or something like this pretty much as long as I've known him. Well, that's true, but all these things
are true until it hits close to home. And I'm not allowed to give true details about this, but let's just say that it it complicated your life. It impacted something to do with my children. Inside the house. Everyone is safe, but it's like my household goes from being on Monday is a nice, calm, serene working environment to the third Iraq War and suddenly I'm flushed into the opposite eight oh six am. So you feel like a little more alive. I feel like you missed. There hasn't
been great wars or anything. You haven't had enough struggle. I feel like you've been We're on this little island. How about shake things up a little. Let's see what happens when you when it, when it comes home to roost. What are the odds something like this happens. You don't even get free sandwiches out of it. Well, that's nothing new, But anybody want to supplement my corona takes with one more? No? Now, I think you hit on some anxiety of head. I mean, what if this is it that's on my radar a
little bit? Well, I would only be annoyed that we went out with a slow um growing virus versus uh, you know, on the waters off Miami A tsunami that could have taken us out a little more sex appeal. That would have been the way to go in terms of the Wikipedia page that we don't have. All right, let us now get into today's show. It is Monday. The free agency legal tampering period I believe starts in
what seven days from today? Is that accurate? Yeah? Yeah, on you for these things unless they push push it back, and that that has nothing to do with coronavirus. Oh that's the CBA scenario. Okay, unless Corona pushes back things like that. Why don't everyhow it would have any impact players traveling to meet with me? I don't know, maybe most of that's done. How does Tom Brady do his little free agency tour on you know, shared vans and even if the private jets only one layer of travel?
Remember the iconic Peyton Manning free agency tour before he was criss crossing the country. Remember when Bishop Brelan signed a contract and then hurt his heel. I mean, Corona be way worse than that anyway. Um, I'm not worried that this is going to be it though, that's not downplaying it. But yeah, that is an incredible sound drop for when the country is full. It seems like a big, pretty big step to take from where where. You know,
there's a lot of information out there that nothing has indicated. Yes, can I take this supplement. You're not saying, look, everybody's gonna die in the next year. You're saying, is this the first domino to fall? And then years from now, you know, maybe when we're looking back at age eighty and there's not many of us left, I say, hey, that was the first one to fall. And now just humanity went into a ditch when this happened. We're all
a little too connected. Late stage capitalism. It's a problem capitalism not really matching up with public health. Need do you know those? Do those really match? Hang tight? Football fans, We will address the sport at some juncture in the show coming up. On today's show. Yes, we have the Corona thing going on with the other big thing going on is love is Blind? It is? What a sensation it is? Yeah, that's a yeah. It's a bigger in India, bigger in China. Let a sensation it is on Netflix.
It's the number one reality show in the game right now. So we figured, hey, what if we take some of the basic premise of that show and try to connect a player, a free agent, a player on the market with a team site unseen at least within the studio. Well, you'll understand when we get to it. And then, uh, what else do we have? That's it. We're gonna do some news, So why don't we do it? Let's hit
the news started. Speaking of pressing issues, we need you, we need Come on, gleg we are in the future. Will you be my dad? We have bag? Can I trust to you? Hey Jack, we must listen to Dela Whale. Do it? We need to help Greg. We Delaware. We need to use need Dela Whale. It's up to you. Speaking of major pressing issues, Greg again, Delaware. The tapes? Where are they? When can we hear them? It is the crown jewel. It is the Great White Whale. It
is a crown jewel of our reused bits. I mean, I can't be too pressing that audio recordings from four years ago. Your kids are like totally different, roughly less than a yeah. Also it is yes, it is what the it's not recycled if we've never heard it before, We've never heard the Delaware tapes? Where are they? We are headiting into the really quiet period of the calendar in the NFL. This feels like the year this is, this is the time. Greg's like, I don't care where
Amelia Earhart landed old news. It's like some you know, when when I think we have a project that Amelia, well know, the final steps, the tapes, the case, it's not you know, soft or closed because you've not delivered any product. I mean, do you guys know me fairly? Do I know? We don't strike you as someone um who has kept or has any material from like any earlier portions of my life. You always make fun of me for are there earlier portions? Yeah, well, well that's
that's deleted. You're uploaded as an organism on at age thirty two, flirted. All right, let's get to it. Let's talk some cornerbacks. Um, some teams, some players can be signed ready because they are already free agents. An example of that is Josh Norman, the cornerback who signed that huge deal with the Redskins in two thousand sixteen. Well, now he is reunited with Sean McDermott of the Buffalo Bills. It is a one year, six million dollar deal for
the cornerback. He was released last month. Greg He is a guy that struggled mightily last year before being benched down the stretch, but now he's not being paid like one of the highest paid cornerbacks in the league. So maybe a situation where you're not asking as much of him, you're not paying him as much Josh Norman can help, or maybe he just can't play anymore. Well. I was surprised that he got as much as he did, and uh,
I think it's a reminder. The Bills are among the teams I expect to spend the most this year, so they got they got that Capps basic. They just figure may as well spend it. I was surprised too, because that was the worst season of his career, and you never know once you're past the age dirty mark, if that's the beginning of the end, or if you can bounce back maybe at age thirty one age dirty two. But he's also a bigger corner who you don't picture
moving to the slot like a lot. You know, you send a lot of guys out the pasture by putting them in the slot for a couple of years. Safety like they must have a vision of him. I can't imagine it's an every snap player. It's a lot of money. I thought maybe it's one of those deals where you find out it's a bunch of fake money, has to get all of it. But now it is a six million dollars I mean that if you want to spend pot like what could be in terms of the positive.
She's going from what was one of the more chaotic organizations in the league with the Redskins, to a coach and Sean McDermott, who knew him in Carolina very well knows him here. McDermott consistently gets the most out of his defensive backs, and you're going into a ready to meet, ready made defense. I don't know. I mean, you're not what he only played six of the snaps last three's a art time player that I agree with you, Greg. The money seemed more than I thought would have thought
he would have gotten good secondary though. I mean that's probably the backbone of that team. Levi wawas Micah hi Jordan's pop player in trade Avius White, whom they're looking to resign, Like, yeah, they're redo a deal with White too.
In other cornerback news, this is a little cautionary tale as teams look to spend tons of money in free agency next week, Tremaine Johnson has been informed by the Jets that they will be parting ways with the cornerback who it was just two thousand and eighteen that he signed a five year, seventy two and a half million dollar contract uh to be ostensibly the jets number one cornerback, and he never was anything close to that. He struggled on the field as a player, He struggled with injuries.
From everything you heard, his attitude wasn't great. It was basically one of those worst case scenarios where nothing is clicking. And despite the fact that the Jets are tied to him, um, and it really depends how the c b A plays out, but they are going to eat a ton of dead money twelve million in fact, so they could have kept him on the roster and uh because the point of the matter was that they were gonna be stuck with them anyway. But they think so little of him as
a player and as a teammate. I suppose that they said goodbye, take a walk, we are taking the l on this one. So Tremaine Johnson hits the market at a highly depressed value thirty four million he got from the Jets to play seventeen games, and Dan you know this as well as anyone. When he was benched last year, it wasn't like the Jets had great cornerbacks coming out of their ears. They were forced to play journeymen and late round rookies, and those guys played much better than
Tremaine Johnson. He just landed in the doghouse and it didn't seem like the coaching staff had confidence and the and the story around heading into last year was, yes, he was a total disaster in year one with the Jets. He had the injury issues, he didn't play well. But when Greg will James came into town. It was Greg Williams with the Rams back in the day where Tremaine Johnson kind of established himself as a quality cornerback. But almost immediately he was injured in in the doghouse under
Gregg Williams as well. So I imagine he will, you know, reservice with another team. He's I think any back to the Rams, he's I believe he's under thirty or right around thirty years old. But this guy is he I don't think he even gets Josh Norman money. Does he No, I don't think so. I want to see what Joe Douglas. I feel like we have about two percent of the
Joe Douglas plan unbailed at this point. I mean, I just I love that they cut him versus the you know, over the weekend was like, I might keep them because of the cappit and stuff. Move on and just start building the team that Joe Douglas wants to build. You still save a lot of mind. He did um. You know, it's kind of a disastrous move for the gents, and they've had some pretty bad free agent signings between Bell c J. Mosley. You can't fault him for too much.
It's that's injury related. Hopefully he bounces back in Tremaine Johnson. But he did, uh make someone, um a good bargain. He won me three sandwiches. I just found out well years ago it was him getting the most guaranteed money of any defensive player. Good for you, they had some little, nice little moment for you there. Uh. In other news, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN, the Saints are planning
to place a first round tender on Taysom Hill. They're restricted free agent quarterback, uh and that means the Saints they have a chance to match any offer sheet he signs with another team, um or they will get a first round pick back. Saints planned to resign him soon, but this gives them a little bit of coverage in the event that a team decides Taysom Hill is the guy. Well, nobody should be surprised by this. We We've got the head coach seriously comparing him to Steve Young, and if
that's your comparison, I still was a little surprised. But he has proven my conspiracy theories wrong that I thought they wanted to have him sign elsewhere. Potentially he's gonna be their backup, and that's a fair price for a backup. Into me putting the first round tender versus the second is you know, mostly saying to Taysom Hill, here's a little proof of all the nice things we're saying to you. We don't need to give you this extra million dollars.
Really we could keep either way, but we really do value and maybe see you as a part of our future. Ideally, wouldn't you. Breeze has missed six starts over the last two years. They've already talked about giving Taysom Hill a bigger share of snaps and and part of the offense. I if the Saints ever went south, or even if they didn't and Breeze needed a rest week or two, I would want to see a few starts from Taysom Hill if I'm the Saints to game plan for what
you do next off season with this player. He's become one of those guys who's sort of a lightning rod. Everybody's got an opinion on him, and most people I don't know how they reached this point that really negative on him. I have no idea what it is about Taysom Hill. They've decided he can't play football. But Nick Underhill, who's a beat writer for the Saints, says, as as much as the Saints have praised him publicly, they think more highly of him privately and speak more highly of
him privately than they even do in public. I will speak to the other side of that. I don't hate Taysom Hill, but I think people that when you see him get a first round tender, for instance, today, and he's gonna make a pretty good penny, it sounds like, at the end of the day, for a guy. That's what throwing eighteen passes. He's a quarterback that so many other positions. I understand that, but I think that is more if you want to even call criticism, that he's
just extremely untested at a professional level as a quarterback. Uh. And some people think other people are getting carried away based on a very soon I think it would be this is a big step though, that he even goes into the year as a true backup in getting paid the money that he is, which I think he will be Teddy Bridgeway. But I think people have misread that
all along. Sean Payton has valued him for two things, one his versatility and two so he won't be left holding the bag when Drew Brees loses it or walks away. And I think he places a high value on that. In other news, the Rams have a new logo maybe uh. The Rams, of course, are moving into their new stadium, and to go along with that, they are updating their uniforms. They've made minor adjustments over the years since they're moved to Los Angeles in the color scheme, but an image
leaked yesterday. Over the weekend, Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports Sports said that it is indeed the real logo, and it's one of those things where the L A is prominent in the logo and then there's a RAMS horn, but gone is the profile of the RAM. Uh. What do you guys think about this potential very possible, perhaps definite new Los Angeles Rams logo. Well, I mean it was. It took over Sunday's Twitter conversation because it's it's I
was not involved with that. We stayed out of these, but I was reading it and like I I think it's probably, uh, you know, a bit of a nightmare for any team to find something floated and then you want to hope it's on the radar ar. No, no, I here's the thing. I don't think I feel as
other people do. But here's the argument against it. If you look at it, and you have to go look at it while you're listening to this, it's a confusing logo in the sense that it need It looks like with the horns circling the A that it's L A C, which stands for chargers. The horn itself looks a little bit like thunderbolts. And then on top of it, to me, it's just ohthero someone else pointed out that the way that the horn goes over the L and the A,
that it is reminiscent of the St. Louis arch. So there's a lot of image like from an image and I don't hate that, but that their real past is l A not St. Louis. I just don't understand it. What is a goat horn? About that? Yeah? Their team president, Well, I think that people are saying it is not jumping out as anything. Just before we started taping, uh like sent out the gift. You know that the Will Farrell anchorman. Boy, that escalated quickly, So I don't know if that is
confirming or denying. Um. Kevin Demo, who's their team president, put it on Twitter, but I don't know if that's saying it is or isn't the logo. We don't know for sure. But I immediately just thought of the Chargers logo experience from a year ago. I believe it was where they where supposedly their new logo leaked. It got so much negative reaction on social media. Never saw that logo,
so I don't know. That's so that's that's what I thought of the about this was this is getting a lot of reaction will we see this logo or not? And that because the Ramps have underrated uniforms. It's tricky when you have a good uniform and I know this isn't the uniform under the logo. I know this is the logo not the uniform, but it's all connected. I think they have a great logo uniform combo overall, one
of the better ones. So it's it's tough to when you're changing from something that's really good or you don't mess with it. But we talked about uniforms in the past couple of weeks where this whole you know, if with the uniform front, if you get this five year deal where you have to keep what maybe something that the public doesn't like, change, all that sweep it away.
And I think if they flow, if the logo got floated and the the public response is not positive, well you should allow the Rams to go redo the logo. I mean, give me a break on you know, having them be married to this. Yeah, test group of one. And I love it, by the way, because I have been told that I will love it, and I love It's now a legit RAMS fan and she she was not feeling it well that's the young demographic too. You want to that's where you really want to get your
claws into the Are we not part of that? We are well well out. You'll be lucky if we're alive and you know a year let's face it, fair point um. And if you've sensed an urgency to Mark's monologue there, he's got that Brown's uniform unveiling on his mind and he's very nervous about it. I'm not I I have been I received a little A little birdie has spoken to me until told me that I should be encouraged by what this person would like being described as a
little birdie. Well, it's just a it's like you call a private eye and I it's just like a little you know, catchphrase was speaking to an eye. The Giants, according to our report, are not close to an extension
with Leonard Williams. This could be a little egg on the face food because, as you may recall, they gave up two draft picks to the jayman Um last year to acquire the defensive lineman and the idea was that they would then sign him to a deal and he could be an anchor in the middle of their defensive line.
Well as things stand, rap Sheet reports that the Giants are not close, so that is a little bit of pressure, and um, if you're Dave Gentleman, you want to get this deal done because the Giants were not a competitive team last year. They weren't in a win now mode last see and when they got Leonard Williams, so they didn't really acquire them just too for nine games. Whatever last year it was. It was supposed to be a long term move unless unless they didn't like what they saw.
And I've I've heard a lot of Giants fins. You know, oh well we get a you know, we get a dismissive Giants fens story if it happened there was two Super Bowl games, You've won so many others. I've heard a lot of It's like, okay, you could get the compensatory pick back. First of all, that's not for another year. It's thirty picks later. Second, you might not get it back. I feel like this misinformation with compensatory picks happens every year.
The Giants would only get it if they see more quality free agents leave the building than they get, and that is not going to happen for them this year. They are going to be signing free agents because they need it. They do not have quality free agents other than Leonard Williams really expectedly maybe Marcus Golden. But I don't think they're gonna end up on the positive side of the ledger and get a compensatory pick, is what
my point is. There's also a conspiracy theory out there that the Giants could have a wink wink, no, it's nudge with Leonard Williams, let him hit the market and then sign him after he hit the market, so they would only have to give up a fifth round pick instead of a fourth round pick to the Jets, which seems like a lot of trouble to go through just to save yourself a late round, one round and a little bit of an unnecessary risk, because who's to say
some team that has fallen in love with Leonard Williams Tate doesn't march in with a way better offer. Kimberly Jones remembered that at the combined Dave Gettleman you know, at during one of the his his high faluting press conference, told everyone he would get killed. I'll get killed. He said. If if the Giants don't resign you, why did you call it a high What is happening of all the
people say high faluting about Gettleman? Seems like I feel like two years in a row like Gettleman's combined press conferences have just been a little bit extra. I was embedded. I don't know if you get Oh, that's right, you were, so I shouldn't even comment on us with the giants. It was entertaining. It was you were embedded, bearded, yes, beirded? Is there a've called it high faluting? Is there a fluting without high? Right? Is there a low falutin just
the regular faluting? We don't find out about those events. That guy that was it was a faluting party. That's pretty good. Well you can I I watched the guy very closely for four years. You want to give him fifteen million a year, I'm with you on my go ahead. I mean, if that's what, If that's what you want to do with your money, I will not judge you. But that's supposedly what his market is already wants the market to be. That seems like a lot of scratch.
So you there's a scenario where the giants announced my
turn to bury the giants. There's a scenario where the Giants hypothetically give Leonard Williams fifteen million dollars a year and then give Jadavian Clowney thirty seven million a year or whatever the horrible market or the perceived market of his is, and that they're just gonna load those guys up and way down their salary cap with these guys that don't put up any numbers, like most of the gentleman experiences Carolina, you know, removing cap, like making cap ram,
getting rid of veterans when you guys. Actually asked Kettleman at the Combine about Steve Smith that one year, and he acknowledged that maybe Steve Smith wouldn't be around anymore. Was like, and he goes to the Giants and all they've done is move veterans and move big price tags. So I don't feel like he's gonna go hog wild, as he would say, or hog molly wild in the in the he could be tagged, and I do think
he would have that strong of a market. I think he would get plenty as an abut guys who are young, above average starters and I have a pedigree, they get paid a lot of money. I'd love to see the Clowney Leonard Williams combined for three and a half stacks next year at dollars. I mean it's all in play. Finally in the news the NFL. That's the breaking news flash. We got Ricky. This just in our A t N
Instagram page hit fifteen thousand followers. So if you're not following and you want to follow, just post some fun behind the scenes content. Fifteen thousand. That's like, what of listeners? If that? Let's get this up, guys at the A t N Podcast. If you don't have an Instagram, you gotta look in the mirror. Okay, make one follow. That sounds like that was not that was a demand of your audience, But we make very few demands of our audi.
The next step is sending Rick out um and conducting some vigilante justice to any any listeners who aren't following. Didn't know. You're in the pocket of Big Social A couple of some some moves. If you want to be that guy, if you want to be the one that has to be an enforcer, you get the baton with to the knee. You need damage. The other one is and I liked this one, uh, break thumbs. But then they can't follow if the thumbs, but I also got
your pointer finger. That's true, that's true. But if you do those, you have to be much more careful now because video cameras are everywhere. So just because like I'm in a back alley behind else banging on someone with a baton, like they're gonna find you hoisted on your own petard, So you gotta be careful where the hit goes down. Um, this is not breaking news, but I
just saw this the Raider. Oh but good job, and Ricky, good job by you because you, uh, you've done a great job with that, and make sure to bring that up in your employee review let them know. The Raiders announced the release of veteran linebacker to Hear Whitehead. The move clears six point five million of white heads seven point three million cap number from the books. He signed a three year deal in the free agent period after
six year run with the Raiders. He was a starter for Oakland during that entire run, every game in fact over the last two seasons. But the Raiders are looking to improve in their linebacking group, make some cap space. They're gonna be spenders. Um and just as a warning, the whole Oakland l a Las Vegas thing. No, I wasn't even you said he was with the Oakland Raider
because they was that availed it. I I have been writing Oakland in my in my copy, so that is that is Sometimes it's all going to have to get rid of, just a warning sign. They signed a new version of to here Whitehead every year. Don't worry, they'll get some journeyman linebacker and vants perfect probably not coming back.
And finally, the NFL Players Union announced Monday that has extended the voting window from Thursday to Saturday at PM Eastern UH to make a vote on the new Collective Barning bargaining Agreement that was drafted by the owners and was sent along to the players, it has to be a majority vote. There are notable players out there that have made it um known that they do not like this proposal from the owner's Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Kenny Stills,
what's the guy, what's the crazy guy? That we've played the the offensive linement from Miami. None of them were the old line coach, none of whom were at the meeting. That's fair, but there's also been other players on the other side. Ryan Fitzpatrick is one guy, and there's been several others that have voiced support for the new CBA, which, um it does. It sounds like one of the big one of the without us digging in because who wants
to do that. But one of the big positives for the players is the minimum salary is going to go up fairly substantially, and that they're a speculation that because of that, and most players are closer to that end of the spectrum than the star spectrum, that that will be something that could give you the necessary amount of votes. I guess we'll see, right, and that this was an agreement that their executive committee negotiated for three or four minds.
They obviously approved it, but the whole thing is really messy. The the the voting is not due until midnight Saturday into Sunday. The franchise tag deadline as scheduled is two days before that, but it's under the old c b A, so for now teams can use two tags. But if the players approve it, and everyone not not everyone, but I think the expectation, the conventional wisdom is that it
will pass. You only need over and I think people believe that it will pass, then that means two days later the rules are gonna be different, and then it's there's only one more day until free agency even starts
in terms of legal tampering. Meanwhile, you got the the Union voting their new president and executive committee in the middle of this week while this is all going on, and Russell L. Kung is filing um you know, uh a legal issue, a complaint with the National Labor Board that his bosses at the Labor Union are you know, working in bad faith against him and other people. It's like the whole thing, let's clean it up here. Also push the they're gonna push, they should push free agency back.
That's my point. Also Corona in the middle of all this, that too, it is that's an issue as you like, what what is the hurry? Why? Why would we this is a whatever billion dollar business. You're gonna operate under one rule on Thursday and then operate under different rules on Saturday, and then you're gonna start the whole league gear the next day. And what's the hurry? How many of the players voting have read the entire new proposal
from wire to wire, hundreds of pages? Correct? I think that I think they're reading the the bullet points, which there you know. Aaron Rodgers sent one to all of his players on the Packers, which kind of was like a last build. I'll never talk to you again if you don't agree with me. It was like a one pager basically with him, Guys like I don't you don't talk to me anyway, So how does this change anything
for me? For what it's worth? And you could say it's not worth much because he's he's the outgoing president of the nfl p A and worked on this deal. Eric Winston I told Peter King that he thinks it will pass, and he thinks it will pass by a lot. I'm taking a pure at all break right now? Anybody else wanted? Is it sponsored? Now? No? Not sponsored? I mean your hands are all over the bottle refreshing gel. Yeah, but see Wes is getting it. What does it matter
if my hands are all over the bottle? Ill is he gonna get to the pure l? My wife is pregnant. I've been told it's very important that I stay my hand steaked at Now you both touched the bottle. I don't know, I'll been holding it up to the mic. Just that's called that's called classic podcasting. That's a pro. That's a bro and a bro who's a pro. All right, let's move on, moving on. That's what's happening in the news. All right, let's get into it. Love is Blind? What
what a program on Netflix? We have clearance for this? Well, the funny thing is is that this this has no connect into Love is Blind? But doesn't it sound like I assume this was the theme song? That's sure it is. Why not that assumption? Alright? So for those but I'm sure there's there's a chunky uh segment of audience that has not seen this Netflix sensation. What kind of music is that? It's you know, so what the kids are listening to? Like eight years ago? What noises are those?
What instrument makes that sound? It's done on a computer most likely anyway, if you haven't seen the show, the premises is fairly simple. They have a group of men and a group of women. They're they're called pods. Mark, Mark, I know you caught up. You binged all through the weekends. They yes, they begin in pods, right, so they actually get they go on quote unquote dates. Um, there's a
frosted glass between them and two rooms. They never actually see each other, but they go on multiple dates where they just talk for X amount of time. They never make it clear how long these quote quote dates. Their nest sleen like large glasses of like wine and stuff. So I think you go on as long as they wanted to kind of so my my, And it ends that the first portion of the show ends with a proposal. And these people, these these maniacs, and there was like
six or seven of them couples. You proposed to the person without ever actually seeing them if you want to, you know, if you want to, like you don't have to propose, no, but it's like some people were compelled, and it was like this highly emotional you're in a legit bubble, you can't there's no phones, there's no outside world, and you fall in love with this person because you've dug in all this deep material without seeing each other.
Than these proposals were happening, which I agree was you know, to the to us watching it pretty mad. And then once they're proposed, there's paid for it though more frosted glass, Greg, that is the whole thing is not about them getting paid, of course, it is they're they're going through multiple rounds of auditions, right, and it's a job, but it's a job you're getting paid for. There's a long hallway, people, you gotta add this into just beyond like game show is,
you're definitely audition in for that. Shame on you, Greg. A second part of the show, long hallway, two more frosted pains of glass. It opens up and you see the person who's now your fiance, and not everyone's as pleased as you would think. Some people are a little disappointed, but what they see is love blind West yes day, let's start there. No, of course, not what kind of Gregg. You wouldn't fall in love with Emmica if she was on the other side of glassy. You don't love her
as long as he's getting paid. I'm saying no. I'm saying no because that's creating an artificial situation you never would be in. And yeah I would, I would say, no, one's been no, one's that's not happening. Well, I meansion people falling in love in the pass through writer letters without seeing each other. That's happened hundreds and hundreds and hundred. I'm saying that, certainly that's possible. But if you're like possible you're putting in a way there by nature, there's
vanity involved when you're going on television. Think it would have to be UM, would have to be important, and maybe that does. At this point you're sentence pictures. So how do we turn this into a pod sake? We will take UM a team will without naming the team. We will take a player on the free agency market to be without naming the player. UM, show why it's a sensible match. Then we'll all guess what the pairing is. This could be pretty easy. I mean it's very possible.
But who knows. Maybe maybe love is blind somehow that connects. So I'll get us going. Just to give it a little bit of structure. This this NFL team. Anybody watching the XFL by the way, it's a little bit here and there. I have not This team is in UH, the top percentile of teams in UH in terms of available cap space. They have a several needs, but nothing higher. Both sides are blind, both sides of h uh and UH. One of their biggest needs is on the defensive line.
They need help across the defensive line, but at the edge especially. I'll tell you how bad it was. They're leading their top edge rusher in terms of pressures last season thirty three pressures. I never even heard of the guy. Now that scientists probably have mark coin flip at best, but I apparently don't watch the sport. He had nearly their leading pressure. Guy had nearly fifty less than the sack leader in the NFL. We can agree, we can't
be looking up these things on our computer. Buffalo Bills and Yannick and go way. Okay, No, And also I don't know if that's in the spirit of what we're doing here. How a much listened up with the spirit is I don't even know what it is. Anyway, This player this team produced just twenty three sacks last season last in football. Uh, they're two leading sackers had a
combined eight and a half sacks. Okay and um. So the player that I think would be a good marriage partner is someone that knows how to get to the quarterback. We saw it. It's someone that is on the market. And you know what, I wouldn't trust this team's management structure to get it right through the draft because they've had some big swings and misses along the defensive line
under this current general manager. So this particular player uh seems to like it where he where he was last season, pointed out the fact that listen, I'm down to stay here. I also like that I don't have to pay uh some taxes on them. Well, when you're ready, you have a major sack artist. I have a man that's looking to stay home but also likes uh the other federal tax structure, and h team that has a lot of money to spend and has a major need at the
position mark. We know it's Shack Barrett because we hit on that A doesn't like the Florida tax scenario, doesn't like moving his family around the country. So I'm going Shack Barrett on half of the match. You gotta go to the whole thing. If you're gonna jump, I will. But then they're correct. I believe I want to go jets on the other side. But you said mix it missed the tax I think I know. I think it, Greg Steel, I mean Miami Dolphins. Miami wants to stay
in that tax world. So okay, Yeah, the glass slides open. They meet it meet each other and like did it off the whole like combine the top two guys at eight and can't be many teams where no one had anything. Does anybody know who had the most pressures on the Dolphins last year? He's a linebacker, Vince Bagel, Vince Biegel. We had thirty three presses last seasons. He was one of the guys early on saying I love this Miami tanking because it's given me some playing time and look
what he did with it. Shack said that he loves the bucks. He'd even take maybe a hometown discount to stay with the team that took a shot on him during his prof year. But he also like one of the reasons he wants to stay in Tampa is because there's no tax where he plays. The Dolphins twenty three sacks. Taco Charlton and Sam Eguavian Guavin. They were the top two guys, Taco Charlton, Charles Harris, Jonathan led Better, Jonathan Yellow lad Better. How many of these names did you
make up? That's a rough and Avery moss in. Taco Charlton enjoyed last year halfway through and Chris Career the GM he's been there while though Chris Career also the leading sacker that threw me off the scent the whole you know their g MS has has struggled because I was thinking new new regime. Charles Harrison two thousand seventeen went in the first round two thousand thirteen. Of course, Dion Jordan's number three, and they have ninety four million
dollars to spend in free agency. Gotta spend it somewhere, So why not get this Studley Edge Russia? Who's young? I think he's twenty seven. And then you know, put your draft focus on elsewhere because guess what they have three first round picks and fourteen draft picks over two in the second round as well. Love is blind. That's my take there. It's not going anywhere though, that's the only Well is he gonna be a franchise? Is that
what we're saying? Well, Arian, they have been pretty aggressive saying I and to their credit, I think they really are going to choose him over Jameis Winston. They if they don't get a deal done, and I think there there would be ground here to get a deal done, um, then they'll tag him. All right. Let end, by the way, let everyone get through their set up before you jump in. Mark,
you handled that with grace right there perfectly. Okay, West A little quickly draw the segment was to persist, so he didn't have watched zero seconds of Love is blind. So I don't know your format. It's not I struggle actually marked to connect love of But you know what, why not? All right, who's up next? I can do
one for UM? So I'm thinking of a team first of all that when it comes to free agency, I trust them in free agency because instead of colossally over pain desperately, this is a team UH with a with a long standing front office that understands when we see a veteran out there that can make our team better, we understand how to pick a player that's going to be good in our locker room number one, fit our culture that's an unchanging culture UM for years and years,
and tweak our offense in the way that we need it to be tweaked. And this team that I'm thinking of is pretty perfect in a lot of ways, and they're their original thinkers and they do what they want
to do. But they could use a little help through the air and what they could really use because I think it's a team that already has an ability to stretch the field a little bit here and there, but they could use a really solid veteran trusty wide receiver, and the one that I'm thinking of is one that has shown an ability to the flip of a switch, go from System A too System B and make an
immediate difference. A player that once uh switch teams last season two big one hundred yard games for another team that like this team, he would be going to likes to punish you with an old school style of offense. So this veteran recip jeopardy. Just whoever can press them right? I will. If you guys feel good, I'll leave it right there. You want to add, but it's we get on the back end can do it as well. Sure, I think like I think I've kind of laid it
out for here. I think I see heads nodding. I don't talk going to belabor the point I'm more confident in the player than the team. How about you say the one you're more confident in? Emmanuel Sanders? Is that correct? It is absolutely correct? Well, and the Ravens absolutely correct. I thought it was yeah. I would have been well, no so, And I understand that Emmanuel Sanders when you went when you rank these guys, it's not one or
two on the list of wide receivers. But it kind of reminds me the way that people looked at mark Ingram last year, like, oh, he's a one B back you know in New Orleans, and can he really be? He goes there and he fits so well, and I just think Emmanuel Sanders is someone that would immediately be productive in that offense. I think he'll get a really good contract because I think teams like the Ravens, the Patriots are reportedly pretty interested in Sanders. They tried to
trade for him last year, didn't didn't get him. Do the Niners not have the cap space now? I think the Niners perfect. Actually one of the kind of underrated killer thanks for them was his injury, which kind of took him out of the Super Bowl. I think he he's he needs to go to a win now team too. I wouldn't want him to go to a rebuilding team. That's about right, just you know, get it done. That's a night that would be when the glass frosted glass slides open. I think both sides will be very happy
with what they're They would start making out. They would go to first base right there. They'd both be delighted with what they saw. A little tons a hockey as they call it, Erica, alright, because like, why did you come to me with this dan? Uh? All right, I'll justin all right, and I try to keep it simple. We're vague, all right. This uh, this team, I think it could be looking for a new start at this position, for new start, open hearts, um, open to new possibilities
of love. I think they want to get there the fan base excited, you know, invigorate this fan base, get get some people UM excited about the franchise, and maybe play, you know, by by signing this player, UM, you play to what's an improving other side of the ball, play to an improving defense, you know, put this player in place, play play to an improving defense. Um. And they could do it with a guy, um, that's one of the better deep ball throwers in the league a year ago.
Who who has the same career winning percentage. Don't be typing out too much some same career winning percentage music. I'm trying to remember what he as as Eli Manning. The two of them, you know, a future put your Hall of Famer Eli man and Um, it's a little older than you think. He's been around, and he's been around a little a little longer, and a little older than you think. So you've seen some things. He's seen
some things, is right. I love that music coming in, And I can't believe this isn't from the show they should use it could have been. They could have been taken it from the same library. They cut some corners on that show. As you know, Ricky insane. The reunion didn't even have a live audience like The Bachelor, which live tonight the finale. See that I'm out of Yeah, I mean too. But but even the wedding days what a mess. Oh my god, alright, that went on forever. Wedding.
I gotta guess. I mean I have I don't know the team, I have a player. Guess you want to combine? Sure, I knew want to combine Ryan Tannehill. That was my guess. That's right. And I have the Los Angeles Chargers now, So I guess I had kept it too vague. That was gonna be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Here's a matchup no one's been talking about. They need a new start. Maybe he's not gonna get the fan base excited that one.
That was a little bit hindsight, But play to that Bowls of Sons play to that, improving the back to just have a quarterback that's going to blow it for you, basically, I think, I mean the Balls of Sons is more a creation of this room. He was their fifth in d v A last year. Yeah, but turning those turnover I'm utterly unconvinced of Ryan Tannehill goes to another team that we're going to get last year's version of Ryan Tannehill.
I that is a total TBD to me. I just feel like the whole Tannehill could be he's getting overlook because of these old guys. Um he'd be an interesting guy to change teams if he did. All right West This team has arguably the slowest number one wide receiver in the league. They have no tight end with more than three hundred yards. Last season, they drafted three rookies
but didn't play them much at wide receiver. They have a young quarterback with intriguing touch on downfield throws, and they play four wide receiver sets but only have two established wide receivers. This player is perhaps the best deep threat on the market. Mm hmm uh. He is a little bit of a question mark off the field, and he does not seem likely to sign with his former team. All right, I know the player the players is overt. It's it's Arizona Cardinals and Robbie Anderson. Look at that love.
It's not blind m see each other. You could see that they could use they could use a deep threat. I thought about them in Amori. I feel like the Cardinals are an underrated team this offseason in terms of just could go bananas and spend a lot of money. Kime has been there while and has put plenty of cap space, and they kind of need to do that
year to get their own guys in. I could see Robbie Anderson and trapped in a wide receiver at number one, and suddenly you've got all you need there and you're good. That's that makes a lot of sense, is Robbie Anderson. Because you know we've seen the show heat. There are a couple of wild cards in some of those couples.
Robbie Anderson feels in terms of a love match. If you really want to baltize Wet as a lifelong mate, Robbie Anderson, I'm saying that he's like, most likely do a guy that was like your your wig has been crooked, Your wig is slipping your wig slipping. It's been slipping on. I mean I wrote about you know, guys who could be overpaid. I mean, if Robbie Anderson feels near the top of the list, supposedly he's gonna make thirteen and fifteen million a year, at least that's what he's hoping
will make, more than Tyrolle Williams. He's got some pretty big red flags. I think you are a little bit overly down and Robbie Anderson. I think I think he's a really good player, but he's literally been arrested twice, had trouble with two different coaching staffs, and he hasn't been that productive. He has had no issues with the gay staff, okay, but he is absolutely was a red
flag guy with off the field issues. I think he gets kind of a little bit lumped in with all the dysfunction around the Jets more than his actual play. And my a little bit of fear in trepidation I have is this idea that the Jets again all this cap space and this need to completely build out the wide receiver group. He's a perfect guy to have in the building. If you don't think he's a total knucklehead.
If you think he's maturing, I would pay him and then go draft a real number one wide receiver and then he got Crowder and maybe Chris Herndon comes back and he got a nice little nucleus there. I think the Jets and the reports are actually starting to bubble up a little bit in the last couple of days that they actually aren't out on Robbie. Maybe that's real,
maybe that's not. It makes all the sense in the world to me to keep Anderson in that building, because I actually do think that the chemistry with him and Donald's pretty good. Once you got past all the bs um around Donald last year, between the past protection woes and the sickness um, he could he could be a yard eight to ten touchdown guy in the right scenario. I kind of I'm with you that I hate because
we follow these teams that can't get any traction. Like to watch some of the talent that leaves the roster is frustrating. But they know twenty times more about Robbie Anderson and the Robbie interson experience than any of us. So if they let him walk, he's just it's informative to me to say he's just okay to forget about
even the off field stuff. He's just the type of guy who often turns into a bad free agent contract, which is a good not great player getting great receiver money because there's notions on the free agency market that are deep guys. And then you have all these uh rookies coming in with this draft class that'll be coming and had a much more affordable he had just because he was in one I had down the road, but he had thirty seven catches thrown on balls throwing twenty
more yards down field. Since that's eleventh best in football. Uh, so you put him with a better situation, a functional I like him in Arizona. I would I would like that fit and I were just fifteen yards of catch. You know. That just made me think, with this new cb A in the marijuana law changes, what does that do for a guy like Martavis Bryant. Wouldn't he just
be right back in the league. They said that it won't like count towards old Uh, he's gonna have to go through the normal process to get back in the league under the old rules. Rising to me, Yeah, I'm with you, us, I mean, what's what's good for the goose is good for the gander? Come on, it's like a reverse grandfather clause. Let's break that. I never really have known. What does that mean the goose in the gander? Well, isn't a gander a flock of geese? Okay? I could
be dead wrong. What's good? That makes sense? What about one in hand is better than two in the bush? Yeah? That one missing? I've thought about that self explainatory, right, that's like, but what's in the bush? Oh, you're kind of guessing what's your what's in your hand? By the way, a bird. You've captured a bird, and that's better than
having you know, you got one bird? Is that better than the possibility of having the bird in hand is better than two in the It's like, you know, there's just one in hand that their bird, bird in the hand is better than two. Don't overlook what what is this saying? You've never even heard of the saying? Now you just like hockey, it's um, but you got birds in the where a bird in hand is better than
two in the bush. That's a that's a famous which means it's better to have hold something that's a short thing, even if it's not as bountiful as trying. He's trying to say this saying should be canceled. But have you ever notice but you're talking about canceling that. No, I just I just think it's doesn't hold up, Like it's like, oh yeah, I got two in the bush, Like it just doesn't it makes sense. Are you going orson wells
right now? What? Yeah? I mean it's just like I hear you for old men talking about it, Yeah you got two in the bush. Well, we're not saying that the statement is awesome. Took it the people looking back smirking, and I don't know what you were. No, that is not why so you're I looked at you seemed completely done, dumbfounded, and I wanted to hear from you, and I guess I I also because a bird is is what people
call women to in London. And by the way, since you brought it up two birds in the bush, can I just say that you are two years away from thirty and I'm in my thirties, so maybe you're you shouldn't be calling everyone and all. Yeah, but you'll be forty before I'm thirty. So just saying this whole bit about you being basically bare. You're not supposed to tell the whole world my age. It's better than two in the bush, all right that I think it's a good
place to stop. Can I have the music again? Just to say goodbye you? That was the other thing the music budget of that show. They never used a real song the whole time. Everything was from a rights library like this, Well, this is one it's gonna after it's been such a hit. They're gonna go all out for season two. That noise right there, what instrument is that? That's kind of like a dance house type sound that was very poplar on the radio, got five ten years ago.
It's hideous, It's hideous. All right. We'll be back on Wednesday with another show. Uh and yes, three agencies right around the corner, and we have a big week. You are that just doesn't it doesn't touch and we'll just stop it. It's fine. We have a big free agency week coming up. I'll forget it. Tell him later, yeah, tell him what it till wednesday. Look, you Homy goose, tell me that you can read my mind. I get