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Give me Jen and Tonic. Hey there it is. Welcome all right to the Around the NFL Podcast from Londin. I'm Dan Hansis and I'm joined by the heroes, the old Boss, Greg Rosenthal.

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Please thank you throughout the show, sirs and the Quiet Star and Mark Sisler, Uh.

Thank you, thank you.

Oh.

This is a night long celebration of all things Mark.

That was like, what what is it? What a football hooligans?

Sound? That chance? Elevant to it?

Mark, Happy birthday?

You turned some age, some age this week, some age.

This beautiful man.

I ignore the number, but I embrace it too.

I'm with you. Listen. It's so great to be here. This is our as a group, fifth trip to London, and it is I don't know, I feel like it gets it gets a little bigger every year. And the vibe I see you, mister Joe Nama, the jersey.

It's always one of them and Gregor.

We got the three games and we're going to be at Baltimore, Tennessee and that's so exciting. It's it's so great to be here.

Yeah, we're we're we're back working with Sky, so if you're at the game, you know, just yell at us and make us seem like a big deal. It really bothered Maury s Jones Drew a couple of years ago, killed them killed when we were brought up on the big screen and they introduced mauryast Jones Drew and it was polite applause and then Dan and I come in there and in the place went crazy. So so please please look us up and I'm excited. If you're not going to the game, we'll be on Sky.

I got the exact words were, I won the rushing title.

And we appeared on Sky today, Dan and I on Sky Sports News. Yes, I don't know if you if you've listened to the show for a while. A couple of years ago, Dan and I had our first appearance on that was more like Sky News. It was like it was pretty hard, little rough, and we got like four straight questions about Colin Kaepernick and our official stance on Colin Kaepernick. It was just like it's like.

Do you stand with Callan Kopanach? Are you against him like the rest of the National Football League. Then we we get back to where our staging area was sure of course, like where's Wes and Greg? Yeah? And there they are being interviewed by Hannah will Ray Hannah will Yeah, and they're kicking back and relaxing and talking about fantasy football, like, oh yeah, I think Derrick Henry is a great value. And sitting at Mark and I looked like guys that came home from war and saw too much.

You're like they have like the like the beautiful British like suns streaming in on them, and Dan and I are like sweating, like we've got armpit stains. We're just a hot mess.

So it still sticks with us. Congratulations Greg, everything going your way?

Yeah, I mean I was. I was back with Hannah today on her huddle. I guess just the women like me.

There enough. Well, we've talked about him many times. Greg was quite the cocksmen.

Uh is high school years and uh the most high school happened.

And listen, there are many many, many, many, many, many many many men here for those that are struggling in the waves of the opposite sex or whatever, like do you have any advice from your nineteen ninety seven So.

Yeah, well, if you're if you're sure in scrawnie, don't be aware of that, just like believe you're bigger.

There's the lesson. Okay, let's talk about Ravens Titans real quick, because who's going to the game on Sunday?

Person who does yeuted Delaware out appreciate you?

Where are the types? We want the tapes? You want to talk a little bit about this game.

That's why we're here. I meant, what do you think? I just like cannot believe the so on NFL Plus. We broke down Ravens Steelers about twenty five minutes, went through all the plays, and I mean I grew up not enjoying either one of these teams for very obvious reasons. But I almost like it was the first time that Ravens fans I kind of almost felt that for them a bit because that game what seer your memory? It was just like your expose.

You loved it.

I kind of loved it, but like, but I'm loving it. Then the Steelers winning, so it's like there's no win here. But I mean you you have to like dive into the archives to find a Ravens game littered with that many gaffes errors and like Lamar Jackson playing well, but his wide receiver is just I don't know how many acid tabs were handed out to that group of players before the game that it's like they it had you know, they were in effect in the bloodstream.

So yeah, I am a Lamar believer, as you guys know. I'm part of the we know, Lamar General of the lam Armie, very like Bonaparte here in little Napoleon complex. But I like to look at the positive. I like, there's why open receivers for the Ravens now and you're going up against the Titans team that's bad against the pass.

Uh.

Mike Rabel like talks defense, but his defenses are pretty mediocre. Year after year. We got Odell Beckham, we got for Shad Baban, who hasn't done anything. I feel like they do and it's a really strong defense. You would think, Oh, the Titans are the team that's better at stopping the run. No, it's the Ravens. So I'm looking forward to this game. I'm wondering, like, are there a lot of Ravens and or Titans fans here? Okay, wait, where are the Ravens fans? Like?

Did you almost die on Sunday? That was one of the shiest losses. And I'm a Jets fan that that was one of the worst losses I've ever seen, like out on television. So like, I think that's what's so interesting about this game because they both kind of need it. So the Titans, they are two and four, two and three, two and three, they six games, Yeah, thank you.

That much have been a prophecy.

Yeah, math is an issue state mandated top stitch. And while the Ravens will survive, win or lose on Sunday, it is you know, coming off the type of bloss it was, and again the fact that you guys are alive, that's good stuff. Like they kind of needed to just get their kind of swagger back a little bit. So it's two teams that really kind of need a w this weekend.

And the Titans just feel like this show that's peaked and has been on the air for a really long time, and you're like, like, oh, Frazier is still on, Like like.

They're they're introducing the like the red haired boy, that's the orphan that showed up at the front step just for comedies.

And I like them, but it's like, oh, Kevin Byern and Mike Griebel and Derrick Henry, all the guys that you used to love when they were the one seed. But there's just diminishing returns here. That's it. I think before the season I had them winning this division, which means they need to get some w's.

And I'm caught in a major tough stitch. I do I have to ask a couple of Ravens fans. I mean, it was even literally last week that I went, you know, out to an event with some people and meta race.

What well, who talks like that?

I don't know, so it is it.

I went, I literally went to a baseball game, a baseball playoff game, and it was with a hardcore Steelers fan who I like knows is football. And then like the comment came up when we talked about the Ravens and the win over the Ravens and there's a boon for a Steelers team that was lost at sea and you know, oh, well, we know that the Ravens were once the Cleveland Browns. And this was a person of a certain age that would was alive when that happened.

Yeah, you listen to the show long enough, you know there is a dark Sessler.

I mean, well, well let's see you see.

You get you get the sunny version. But sometimes there is like a point in the night where the roller coaster is going up, up, up, up, and then it starts going down, and that's where Dark Sessler arrives.

That's after the show.

If you happen to be unlucky enough to reveal that you didn't know that the Ravens were ones the Cleveland Browns, Yeah.

You are in trouble.

You are in deep trouble.

I do think that's a great for like kind of counterculture programming Sessler after Dark.

You see, it's better than a Frasier reboot, which is happening.

La we do you need it? Nobody asked for it, and yet here it is Greggy as captain of the LAMARMI uh, do you think there's any way to lose this game or where you sat on this one?

Ah, I've thought a lot about this game, and I want to tell you a little story.

Uh yeah.

The lam Armie has been around for years and we've been waiting and we've been looking, and we've been saying all we need is the right person to lead this, like let's quit it with the college running style. And then our guy, Captain Todd Monkan arrived.

What are we doing?

Balls for dramatic effect?

You're trying, Greg, I appreciate it.

I want to tell you another story.

Another wait, that was the close of the story.

There's two stories. They connect, all right, take two and actually they connect, Okay, pausing it helps the comedic effect. It's great.

Failed it.

There was a government a few years back and they didn't like the bigger group of countries that they were connected to. They wanted to escape that group. And in the years after that, times were tough and there wasn't as many pounds as they call it instead of euros hanging around. And then one Sunday they went to Tottenham Stadium. The hot Toddy and all the little Sylvia's and all the little Ollie's looked up into the sky and it

All over time from Hotspur.

Stadium and the rain Maker gave all the money to the boys and girls.

To the rain.

The rainmaker, let's go.

Yeah it did. And it's important Mark that we again responsibility. The rain maker last nime, he you know, took out you know, he did the forecast. He said the Patriots were gonna take care of business, right, and then little Susie buck to Susie didn't get braces nope. Uh. And you know that house they wanted to do, the addition of the house didn't get finished.

No.

Uh.

There's children that are using outhouses. There's no more toilets. Like what at what point? What stops this? Man?

I don't well, I don't know why you trust if you you know, have money of your own. I'm just looking at the fashion selection, the the whole the ensemble is questionable. Greg. You know, there's some accountability that this is needed on your part here. I mean, there are people that no longer believe in the Easter Bunny because nothing shows up on Easter morning. There's no funds. Santa claus Is xt out.

I shout out to Erica Tamposi. Are great for her producer Ricky Hollywood. You know she's a she's a close a close friend of me, of mine and I at this point where she really didn't like me. She chose this as the graphics for The rain Maker. But to answer your question, Mark, I'd like to look back on the last three years of The rain Maker and look at the consistent success and all the coins falling from the sky that little Ali. You just have to have faith.

We don't have time to fact check it so that we were we always go down this alley with you.

Don't think you're work for it anymore? After what happened, Patriots all right, shout? Should we move on anything else?

Mark?

I would I want to throw out one sandwich bet that I feel. I feel strong it's a prop.

We actually are gonna maybe put this out as an actual podcast. So y's a sandwich prop. Sandwich props. We are not going to any of the casinos in the UK.

I will call it what I wish, but I would tell you like I you know, I know you're thinking, oh, look like an animal is gonna bite someone on the forehead, like, I'm not going down that road with this one. Okay, all right, what do we got? This is hardcore football. So back on September twenty six, twenty twenty one, all right, with the Detroit Lions as the opponent in the Baltimore Ravens facing them, someone that we love on the show

One of my favorite things about Mark is that he loves to listen to AM radio in the United States, which is mostly programming to men over seventy three years old, alright, and he loves to listen to the sports lock of the week guys, talking as you're coming into once in a while. I love this. I mean for it to happen outdoors here would be bold. I'm going to take you up on it just cause I love sandwiches.

Yeah, no, that's that's definitely a take. It's supposed to get a little chilly this weekend.

It's inclement weather. That's what makes it all the more courageous. I actually I did not say it could be. It could be one of two kickers, all right.

Did it? I said? Damn it?

Live from the Shaw Theater in London, England, It's time for everybody's favorite game show.

What more likely? Yes, giving up by the way, that Eric, our producer, that was very good voiceover work. Given up for Eric. He's not awesome work. Rap rabbits and with the magnic thumb. You guys should see it.

And it was thirty minutes ago. We're not last minute doing these things at all, all right, So.

What's more likely? Those that have listened to the show for many years. No, it is a war wars for us because it allows us to throw out two possibilities within the universe.

We're the only show that has ever produced a segment like this.

Sell it, Sessler, I love it.

Although we have noticed certain segments on our show popping up on other programming. It's part edit out of the podcast we're released.

Yeah, this show, by the way, will be posted to the world, which we don't typically do. So even if it's not funny the jokes or the comments, just give us a little pop. That's all we ask. That's all we ask.

Also, we're incredibly insecured. It makes us feel better temporarily, and you have to keep refilling over and over and over.

But then the whole remains, and it's a hole that cannot be filled. All right, So what's more likely, Greggy? Why don't you get us going?

I want to fast forward a little bit. Let's go to the day after the wild card round has ended in twenty twenty four. It's a little bit in the future. At that point in time, Bill Belichick is still the coach of the New England Patriots.

WHOA what does that mean? What are the sounds meaning?

He go?

Of course I be a head coach.

Either game on Monday.

Or a team from the NFC South is still alive in the playoffs. Are we gonna do better than that?

We're gonna be on the world. Let's go. That's good? All right? Bill still has a job where the Falcons get to the second round.

Any NFC South team is still alive in the Division around playoffs? Correct, Okay, all right?

I I have some things to say about Belichick in a minute myself, but which.

I thought we went over this.

We attempted to cross plan for about twelve minutes before the show, and I maybe was not I was shut down at that point now listening, But I think in an NFC South team, winning a playoff game is not impossible. They're weird, they're kind of sexy. The Falcons can hurt you in a number of ways. They can hurt themselves.

Which which team do you guys think would be the most likely NFC South Falcons.

That's curious, that's part of I think to say it's probably no, all right, because their defense is very good. We've seen that, and I think that especially will continue to help them during this regular season where they're it's pretty soft schedule for both all these teams. And then you know, I like Derek Carr more than others, so and I think if with Alba Kamara there, if they get Chris Alave more involved than Michael Thomas Day is healthy, I think they're gonna be the best team coming out

Give him but that could take three years with the team they have right now.

Well you never know though the NFL, the way teams quickly rebuild. I just think it's I don't think he's gone. I think he'll survive this year, but.

Think things can get so dark though. It's like, I mean, what's happened over the last two weeks, like it has us talking about and on our Flashpoint Focus series, which if you go look at the athletic Like days later, there's like eight features talking about what we talked about four days earlier. So just a little nod to us, But it could get so dark that maybe the whole relationship just crumbles. Although I just picked the NFC South team winning, so I'll just stop talking now.

I think it's the NFC South team because you figure what that's like not to be you know, boring analytical Greg here, But what have they got a forty percent chance and they're gonna have a home game in the playoffs no matter who they're playing. Maybe they're playing the Seahawks or something like that. They're slight underdogs. I see you twelve. We can't initially, what is up with the UK Saints fans. There's weirdly a lot of UK science fans.

I mean the person that hosts the UK Saints podcast are you here? Are you now that podcast? Plugging that in the building, Then we'll plug it, GREGGI.

I actually, if I had to guess, I would go Falcons slightly over Saints and Bucks, although I feel like it's way closer to one third chance for all three that I feel like the Falcons upside is the highest where they actually could be a really good team. But the Patriots setting your showing out to me, if they go five and twelve, they he gone like four and thirty he gone like they said that going into this season. They've lost the last two games by seventy two to three.

He's not every coach like you're kind of using like this against what other coaches would get them fired. This guy he's been to like nine super Bowls or that's how I would feel.

But I am not Robert all right, how about this and have a lot of the ego and want to make the Hall of Fame and show who's in charge.

I think he's gone. If that's what it's about, that's gross. I guess just giving them so much? How about this? Speaking of the Saints. Former Saints head coach involved with this one. So here we go. The Miami Dolphins. Any Dolphins fins you the Miami Dolphins finish with the most yards in NFL history or Sean Payton goes full Urban Meyer and doesn't see a second year in Ded Brook whoa all right on the count of three, one two, three, all right, Well, well do.

You know leading the league in yardage after five weeks that was the goal of the whole thing.

I told Greg on the Monday Show that I understand now there's a kinship. There's some times of invisible straand that ties Greg to Mike McDaniel, And I think we should all listen very closely to Greg and he talks about McDaniel because he understands McDaniel in a way none of us can't.

That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. I think it's Mike McDaniel on these Dolphins keeping it going. It's a little hard to imagine because the stats are so inflated early in the season, the weather gets bad, they'll have to go to Buffalo, YadA, YadA. But the other option includes Sean Payton, who pretty much has all of the national media like on his payroll. I consider like no one plays like still though.

No, maybe not.

He he knows how to play the media game, and he gets the most favorable coverage possible. And weirdly, I've learned over the years that actually matters. He got this ownership group even though he was the third pick for the job, which he doesn't like to bring up. They wanted to make O'Ryan's, they wanted dan Qui. He somehow gave got like the biggest contract in the entire NFL. That's a lot of guaranteed money. They don't want to

I will go? So I do ranch into something that you mentioned, but it's a little bit different here a dog biting thing. No, no, no, we're not doing that.

So did you say a bite on the forehead?

Yeah, well anywhere with the angle forehead would be tough to uh. Not a lot of fleshy skin there, all right, defying the laws of medical science. Aaron Rodgers fulfills his quest to return this season. He talked about it, marching into Foxborough on January seventh, handing the ball off to Bresee Hall twenty seven times and completing fifteen of seventeen passes, with a ninety eight yard touchdown strike to Garrett Wilson

Or you have me intrigued, right.

Or the Jets pee their pants to a six win campaign, but hold on, the Patriots look like a team on a psilocybin mono diet, farting out three lowly victories. Belichick resigns before Kraft can dump them. Smart Woody Johnson gets crazy and fires his entire coaching staff and in comes Belichick, fueled by anger and hatred and revenge, to become the Jets head coach with a super Bowl level defense and Aaron Rodgers is his quarterback come next September.

There is nothing, There is nothing and no one in the world that hates anything more than Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick hates the New York Jets.

I hear you up till now.

Now. There is something twisted in perverse about him going back to the Jets where he was the DC years ago and saving them, and almost in a way that's kind of burying the Jets by saying, like the only way you were ever going to be saved is by me eat it and maybe he resigns again immediately after and sticks it to us. But I just think that is an impossible scenario, if anything, and I think so he doesn't like to admit to it the birthday boy.

If you need a couple of minutes.

I could take a few minutes, like I you know, I just like you, Greg. I read like all the Belichick you know, biographies and all the publications about him, wrote to him when I was young. Others got that on my on my resume. But he hes all he talked about over and over was ownership is the most important thing. So Whatody Johnson stands out as a bit eccentric. But the Haslims, I mean, they're lucky that they didn't

I do got to hand it to you, that was an amazing what's more likely just like sometimes you got to give it up. There's no joke to it. I will answer that.

When you don't sleep for twenty two hours straight, things sort.

Too greatness erupts from you.

Yeah, I think I will go with the first option because I'm I'm with Dan. And when Bill Belichick got the job, Woody Johnson was the Jets owner and he infamously was quoted in one of those books saying I'm not working for that.

Yeah, he kind of cluses to the dune.

I also want to know what a mono scillo cybe diet is.

Well, you got diet.

We've got two pretty clear days here before Sunday.

Yeah, well you can there's a lot of options. A mono diet is where you would you know, some people, you know, we live in LA. You'd eat like maybe a type of fruit for like ten days. Right, But if it were psilocybin and combine it with mind all during drugs, yeah, or just that like you you go other places?

All right, last one, last one be? And I literally can't answer that question. I just don't think there's any scenariore. Either happens under any world. So I what's working?

And if Belichick went back to the Jets, he would suck. It would be like a reverse Revus where Revis had to come to the Patriots.

Probably all right, the San Francisco forty nine ers, A forty nine ers fans.

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You don't really have to answer.

That one, but I really want everyone just thank you for laughing at that. For the rest of my life being here tonight, That's what I will remember.

Thank you, all right, Heny Jason.

And now we take you inside the mind of Dan Campbell an internal monologue.

Meat Man, I tell you what I just love, ripping the flesh of an animal and noting on the bone like a lion. I'm built for this.

Man.

Our defense is primed. The HGH I gave Jared Goff is working. Everything is perfect, except we lost those NFL podcast Bozo's all I wanted, All I ever wanted was to be the first team in history to be the team of atl for two straight seasons.

We're built for this, but they gave.

Up on me.

Hell Mark was barely on board last year. Dan so sad about the Jets. He can't even see what's right in front of him.

Greg's cool, Maybe it's not too late.

I'm just a man, stay and in front of a podcast asking it to love them.

They can hear this, right, Well done, sir.

All right, it's time now we talked about it. It is a important segment that we have. By we, I mean Mark and I have cultivated co creators. Yeah, I mean segative producers.

I mean associe a producer. You guys said last night.

What do we say, assistant to the best boy?

It was our best grip I think it was, or junior grip.

He was junior to the junior grip. Anyway, that's not important. What is important.

It's time I literally came up with the guests that you guys have been bragging about seeing into the future.

Okay, see that you're never gonna get promoted. And with that type of that's not a good culture. It's not a good company, you know what. Sean McVay with the culture fit, Like we're starting to think should we trade you for a twenty twenty nine seventh round pick. You don't want to. We think you have about all right, anyway, it is exactly what you know. It is hit. It is last point focus, where we get ahead of a story and tell you what everyone will be talking about

Mark, you know, we were at the combine and we were just sort of talking about the concept of this is a while ago, what would happen to Baker Mayfield, who seemed cemented as Cleveland's quarterback? Like all right, you're cemented to, but like about a ma'am about a fortnight later.

Just that you're here and that you're a woman, you can scream out as much as you want.

Yeah, you want to come on the stage.

We had Baker Mayfield. I mean, we just it's been such a series story. I mean, it's just I mean, it's uh, Dan, you and I created something very special.

You and I we did. We did Mark.

Yeah, if you guys could give out awards, you would give them to yourselves for this segment repeatedly.

All right, So here here is what we're gonna.

Where is that Stitcher Award?

By that? I don't know, I'm still looking for it.

Uh.

Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna kind of fast forward two months from tonight, so that would be December twelve, twenty twenty three, and we're gonna look at this as a like a pre production meeting what will be around the NFL's next flashpoint focus. I'll get this one going. I was I have to admit, uh, and Mark you were you were pressing on this yourself. Sure, yeah, Dallas boys, that was a hideous egg laid in primetime against the Niners.

And that just doesn't even sound like a day. That's ridiculous.

You know what I wrote the can someone look up on their phone who they're playing on Christmas Eve?

Jeez?

So I wrote down Denver here, they're not playing Detroit. They're playing Detroit. Okay, that is a murderer's row. And if they are in a bad position or a vulnerable position going into that stretch of games, and I think they will be, that's gonna be a big story.

I agree, And it's gonna be tough for Zaddy Nation because no one's gonna be more in the crosshairs than you boy who got rid of Kellen Moore and maybe at that point is looking at a very productive Chargers offense. Everyone was excited all off season that the whole point was like Dak won't throw as many interceptions anymore, but all the rest of our offensive numbers are gonna go through the floor and we're gonna struggle. Like that's not an exciting way to run offense, or reminds me a

Yeah, I'm gonna voiced my suspicions about the Cowboys for a while and an about like McCarthy. I know he went away for a year, he had this like epiphany where he started watching offensive tape from teams other than his own team and realize, like, whoa, there's other ways to attack defenses. So it's been a nice story. I think the story is gonna get very ugly very soon. And what owner comes out publicly more than Jerry Jones say, of course I support my coach. Of course I support

I think it's gonna be on two fronts. I think internally there's gonna be externally as well, but internally a ton of heat on McCarthy, who's been there for a few years. Externally and I'm talking about us, we'll do it artfully, but everywhere else, all the dumb talking head shows will be going nuts about DAK and you're gonna get You're gonna be getting it on two different levels.

If it gets to this bore, I do not want this to happen. I want them to coast along at this like wild card level where they don't get as much attention, because if you were there for the Quincy Carter years they got that much attention, then it sounds rrib.

I mean, even to go lose a wild card game. I think your scenario of utter chaos unfolding is very possible.

But if McCarthy was on the ropes and if the Patriots were struggling, now that is something I can absolutely see following in the path of his format.

Well, chick doesn't like Bill Parcells much either. I know what you're saying, But what do you want to follow his pacess? Maybe? All right, Greg, how about you flash by focus fidget all right? Fastest is a big chance for you.

By the way, pretend you know it's it's December twelfth. We're coming off Thursday Night football. Pat Steelers Al Michael's sounding visibly bored in the middle of the third quarter as Kenny Pickett and Mac Jones have combined for a one point two yards per attempt in a game that doesn't matter. Coming up next week, Chargers Raiders eight and O'Connell's seventh start for a team heat seeking the number

That was great.

Remember that more Steelers a Panthers Bears matchup more Jets on Black Friday, making one of our most hallowed holidays, and you know, a deal with the devil. We are going to be looking ahead and the rest of the league is going to be talking about do we even need a Thursday night football with this sort of sleep?

Yeah, well, the NFL we need our money, so we're gonna Thursday night football is not going away. But how annoyed will you guys be if al Michaels falls asleep in the booth and it's like nine to thirty pm his time, and it's like four thirty am for.

You guys disrespectful.

That just feels like, come on, al, it's like the least.

You could do, Greg, I previous. I appreciate the argument, of the thrust of your argument, but you are the only person I've ever met that was openly a couple of years ago, openly pitching and lobbying for football, primetime football every night of the week, which I think you know that's not.

A joke, that's not an exaggeration.

No, this was a pitch.

It was two games a night, but they weren't on at the same time for the entire season. And if you do the math, it actually works out you can work the bye weeks. Now that I have kids, I'm less into that idea.

Yeah, I haven't heard it recently, but your kids were alive when you were floating.

Yeah. I barely paid attention the first few years. This is one of those conversations. You know, it's not going anywhere. The money is good. You know, we had we're gonna be doing a seven minute T and F recap of Panthers Bears after week ten, so we need to get our listens in.

Find me a bow and arrow.

It's more just it's more just a conversation of what can we do to solve it? Can we replace Al? Like, how can we help Thursday nightful?

You know, I root for Al the time, and they actually made a concerted effort to make this schedule better. But you can't you don't know what it's gonna be until the team start playing Mark close it out.

I think by December twelfth that a team that already has been set on fire, and not in a good way, the Carolina Panthers. I want to look back a couple months too.

Wow, there's a good way to be set on fire.

Well, I guess you could. There's a it's a it's a turn of phrase. Things could be positive, but I would I guess in this reality it is December something. So I'm looking back to this past week where I thought some very compelling, strange comments came from Frank Reich in a press conference where you don't get a lot of this. The owner is the boss. You just say, it's so wonderful to work for set owner, no matter

I know you guys talked about me, well no, I mean, and probably vice it was.

I mean, but look at we're here now. I mean, I don't think Frank Reich and David Tepper are going to be here now come the end of the season. This is maybe a bit of a hot take, and I don't think it's going to be I had this weird feeling that it's not going to be David Tepper forcing Frank Reike out. David Tepper, by all accounts, picked the quarterback, the number one pick that's not working. The demeanor of Frank Reich in that press conference was a

You could also simply say he.

Would just say, I down very nice.

All right, stay right there, working class.

And now we take you inside the mind of Taylor's swift and internal monologue.

Newsflash, I don't waste my time worrying about what others think about me or anyone in my circle. I mean, it's absurd to me people saying this thing with Travis is some sort of publicity stunt. Come on, guys, I'm Taylor Swift. Travis is everything a girl could ask for. And while we're at it, his brother Jason is the sweetest. Do you know what he did? He came over and chopped down that dead tree in the backyard unannounced. So cute. I like that Travis looks like a cop hanging out

Did, I do, but.

I can't stop thinking about that big cute bear of a brother. What's a girl to do?

Wow, that's tricky. That is tricky. You know what view I view that Kelsey Brothers podcast as a threat and a competitor. So I am all four. Yeah, that tearing them asunder.

Never say that Mark Sessler doesn't have rains.

That was incredibuk. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how I was tailor swift.

But that's how you pulled it off. Well, man, friend, all right, move on here by bye by? All right, here we go, Mark, you are fifty and in love with Jason Kelce, And may I say I've known this man for twelve years. He is looking sexy for fifty.

Didn't that show those little bracelets when you were a forty five? And I did?

You?

All right? All right, So I just want to say, let's well, get into a little conversation here. I know, turning fifty, it's probably in terms of mentally there's a lot of things going on, and there's this idea that now that I'm fifty, what do I have to offer anymore? Is it basically a wrap on me? And like, is it basically I had my opportunity to make an imprint? Now it's just like counting down the days. Still it's all over.

Don't look at it that way, all right, thank you, because I was just I would be crazy to look at it like that.

You're inside my head.

I was sitting on the plane and I'm thinking, like, it doesn't have to be that way, because it's all a matter where your your head's at. So I did some kind of kind of brainstorming, like who are some people after their fiftieth birthday who had a like a meaningful contribution to society. Okay, so this is what I came came up with, if you could, Jason, and this is important, so please Mark, let me take a look. Yeah. Number one, that's Winston Churchill. I don't like at that one.

Wrong tough crowd.

I thought he helped. I don't know, and I thought that was an easy one. But like Margaret Thatcher, So all right, all right Churchill, big job, clutch, big spot w W two. Yeah, there we go.

There is that at fifty one years old, looking great.

There is fifty one? All right? Another one, This one was easy for me. Hit it.

Gene Shallett. Now you guys don't know who Gene Shallat is. I know that you don't know who Gene Shallat is. He was an American movie critic like twenty seven years ago. But I thought it would be funny for us on the stage, So just give us that.

I think he's like thirty six there strangely, just remark it's worth it.

And here's another.

One that's the trajectory. That's a triplet.

Carl Sanders tasty fried chicken from the head of KFC and like, just to be totally honest, like that was all I could come up with.

Hey you tried. I mean, that's a hard exit left for me if that's what's coming up tomorrow.

So with that said as a pivot point, first of all, never give up. Also, why don't why don't we throw out some figures in the NFL that have aged like fine wine, like a Churchill, like a shallot It, like a Sanders. Yeah, Mark, we.

Were cabbing around. I don't know what's going on with the cab drivers here, but we nearly killed four bikers on the way.

But like that guy was legitimately psychotic.

I kind of appreciate him because he's like, I'm gonna get you there on time. But like they were multiple near deaths. But we were discussing this in the back of the cab, you know, We're sitting facing each other, and I was like, it came right to my mind. I mean, I want to take a look at someone that I thought was like one of the most uber nerds around and uh, you know, let's just say, you know, oh, yeah, this this is Andy Dalton. When it was like I

We're very comfortable with our sexuality on this stage. But yes, he does look like someone that's coming over on a ship, and everybody get the out because that's going to do some damage.

Right When when he was Young, mostly known as the progenitor of the Dalton Scale, of course, made by a great friend, Chris Wesseling, and he was he was the median of all quarterbacks. Now he's on a team with the number one overall draft pick, and he's the best quarterback on the team by far. He was replaced by a guy making thirty five million dollars and he's better than anyone on the Saints roster too.

Well. By the way, next time I see Bill Gavin, I'm telling him to get this haircut. All right, how about you, Gregy?

Okay, I wanted to think about our trajectory because, unlike Dan, I do think you have a lot more years to give a lot of.

Right, I'm just saying that hours of research and I came.

It was just it was just kind of in the subtext. And you've often said to me, and I take this as a compliment, like, Greg, You're gonna be doing this forever. You just football, whatever happens to this podcast or life. I'm just gonna keep trying to get after. But I think in your heart of hearts, you love football that much too. And I think someday we're gonna be eighty four years old, much like Buck's assistant coach Tom Moore. Hell yeah, and we're still gonna be going through the

This is such a Greg poll.

By the way, Peyton Manning, you know, the greatest statistical quarterback throughout his whole era, the one who everyone thought was Tom Brady his whole career until Tom Moore left him under this guy. Baker Mayfield now playing his best football under this guy, and he loves it and he's still getting after it. His wife of thirty seven years says, Tom is absolutely delivering.

Tom Moore, that's good. That's something to aspire to. Mine is all right. Mine's complicated in this personally and psychologically. It is the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks, Pete Carroll. Tell you a little story about Pete Carroll. Guys, settled down right.

We heard you hit the bar pretty hard before the the you know, the showrunners here were saying, could you please do this again? They've never sold more before a show.

Beautiful hooligans. So we have Pete Carroll here, and many people don't know this because first of all, was a million years ago, and secondly, it was a blank and you missed it, but he started his head coach career. After a successful run as the DC of the forty nine ers, the Jets hired him and he was a rookie head coach in nineteen ninety three and things started

Oh, a much better example than the Kentucky Fried Chicken guy. I mean, this is life energy, and he's bringing something to the tape.

How old were you Dan when you realize your mom was a sexual being?

I think that was my awakening and it was very difficult, very difficult, GREGGI all right with that. I'm gonna go get a chair. Your moms are sexual beings too. Heal it.

And now we take you inside the mind of Brock Perdie an internal monologue.

I am so sick and tired of people not giving me the damn respect that I deserve. I'm the little boy who has been giving all these wonderful toys, and the whole world is patting me on the head wall I play under the tree. Well, thank you for the blessings Father Christmas. Well, guess what you're the little boy? I'm a man. Can't people see that I'm special, that I'm not a product of a system, That I am the system?

Man?

Don't people even know what time it is? Does Brock need to go out there and tell the people what time it really is?

Oh?

Yeah, I'll tell you what time it is before me? Two quick things. The one thing missing from these trips is Chris and you guys have done been so important to us from the very beginning when we lost him and even when he was sick and helping us kind of process losing Wes and moving on as a show. And the reason we're still here and doing the show is in large part because of you guys. Thanks for hanging around. Thank you, and more importantly, give it up for Chris Wesson.

It's very cool. We'll play that for Keish. Like right before we came out, we were texting with Lakeisha and she sent the message to me yesterday to talking about London and just how that first trip here he had already overcome cancer one time, and that trip and meeting literally some of the people in this audience and interacting at the stadium and doing our live show and listening to some of the music actually that you guys heard, it's the same playlist that we played out, made him

And there was no greater person to go to, you know, a typical London pub with and Wes absolutely get a few beers in and you get a different west.

So he was built for this city and we miss him. We miss him every day. And before we signed off for good again, this guy, well for tonight, this guy again. He celebrated a birthday and it's it is a milestone birthday and it's it's wonderful that you've been in our lives for so long and will continue to be in our lives. And it's a big one mark. So how about one more time and let's bring out a little tree for our body. Let's say it one more time on three one two three.

Happy birthday? Two you, Happy birthday? Do you? Happy birthday?

Dear sest dog, Happy birthday.

Do you thank you?

You have to actually eat it, Mark, I will eat it in time.

I'll carry it off with me.

It's no, there's no utensils.

Than thank you.

Everybody, thank you, you preceive the call, thank you,