Lawrence for his first passion of the night. They won't get it off. The ball is now out. Ran Adlan is here to signal. They call it a fumbled Jacksonville thinks they pertained possession, but Alan says no, it's the Jets ball. Third down and goal from inside the one diving. The ball comes out, but he was over the line, so it is a touchdown block is it? Old Zeros? And that'll be picked off so that'll look good on
the stat sheet. It's fourth down and two throwing taught and the call then comes out they had the first down and more and the next thing you know, it's a turnover. Mm hmmmmmm. Al Michael's with the call on Amazon. The Jacksonville Jaguars go to the meadow lands and take care of business, moving to seven and eight with a nineteen three win over the New York Jets, who are pretty much out of contention right now after their fourth consecutive loss. Dan Hans is here. It is a could
be caused for a funeral here with the Jets. But let me say this before we bring in um the other half of the Hansas cast today. You could also look at it the other way. Thursday, Night Football December two could one day be viewed as a celebration for the Jets, because, let there be no mistake here, New York does are moving on at quarterback as soon as this upcoming next week of games week seventeen, and certainly in two thousand three. And with that said, yes, I
am not handling the duties of this game alone. Let's bring him in. His name is Keith. He's dance dad, don't doubt about it. He's a big Jets fan. What is he called to say? Game today? What is he going to say? Game today? Now? All right, welcome Papa, my dad, Keith Hans, his lifelong Jets fan, been waiting fifty three years in counting to get back to the Super Bowl. And Dad, it's not happening this year either.
And tonight was felt like the nail in the coffin for Yeah, we had some hopes that that if they had some sort of winning streak at the end of the season here and maybe with a little luck, it could have happened. But uh, Zack Wilson and the entire team played very poorly tonight at home again, which they haven't played good at home most of the season. Yeah,
I feel, Papa. I feel very uh, you know, I defended you know, obviously guessing up the Jets at times this season, and I've I've got non uh the various uh providers of primetime games for not putting the Jets on in prime time. But I don't know, it's just like this is yet another primetime egg that the Jets lay. They are terrible in prime time. It's this has been going on for years now, and to to really not
show up in this game, Uh, it's just depressing. And it's oppressing that it's right before Christmas and that stadium again filled with Jets fans getting rained on for four quarters and then for Zack Wilson. And this is again I agree with what you just said that it's not just Zack Wilson. This was a poor performance by the Jets. Their defense got outplayed by Trevor Lawrence. And and we're gonna get to the Jaguars. Don't worry for fans that want to hear from the team that feels relevant at
this point in terms of the playoff picture. Um, but Wilson delivered a performance that I really do think ends his Jets career. The way things set up with Mike White, um, coming coming in for Zach Wilson, playing well, going down with an injury, giving Wilson another chance to start, which I'm not sure would have happened if White didn't get hurt. And for Wilson to be highly erratic against the Lions
and then just lay an egg. That makes you think of those Patriots games earlier this season get booed out of the building, which always felt like a possibility. Dad, This feels like, um, the end for Wilson. How could the Jets ever turn back to him after tonight? I don't see it, I really I think it was it was just he was just lucky that he got like you said, he got reinserted into the lineup only due to the injury too. You know, Um, I can't take
his name, Mike White. Yeah, Mike White. Mike White just just just slipped there. But yeah, it's if it wasn't for that, I don't think we would have seen him. I think Solid kept on saying over and over, oh that we you haven't seen the last of Wilson this year and all this, But I think that was all bologny. This guy, like you said, you got a chance to come in here today, and you know when they had that fumble recovery and once again they came out lame,
they only got three points. And then after that, you know, the defense was just pathetic, both rushing and passing. Yeah, I think, you know, he had his opportunity here and he was just I think, and this is where you can with Wilson. You can get too far in on burying him. Although as a number two overall pick, he is as bad as any Jet quarterback of of high draft regard has ever been. But I really do think he affects both sides of the ball with this particular team.
And you could say that's a bad look for the Jets, um, but I do think the defense, Um, you feed off that that negative energy around what's happening with the offense. And and this was kind of like v Zach Wilson showcase game of everything that's wrong with him, missing open throws, not running when he can run, cutting the ball loose, uh, and just throwing it up for grabs even though there
was no reason to do so. Um. You know, this is just the type of stuff that you know, not reading certain plays like the the blitzer on that first drive after the Quentin Williams sack and fumble. Um, this is it was all laid out there and laid out there bare and Chris Traveler comes in, uh and replaces Zack Wilson. And and we were talking about it if you follow on Instagram. Uh, me and my dad got on at halftime and said, there's no reason Zack Wilson should even um return to this game. He's got to
be benched. But I think some of it and he eventually was bench of course, midway through the third quarter, but some of it that I think was Sala painted himself into a corner. Uh. And this is where you can get into trouble defending a guy publicly that you don't believe in. And he said, you know, everybody, this is an instant coffee world, and everybody wants this kid
to you know, he's gonna be a good quarterback. And then he delivers that first half performance and it makes the coach look bad and it and you could tell the deflating nature it has on the whole team. Yeah, you can definitely see that. But and what in particular what you see is you know how the teammates, the Jet teammates are so excited when White is in their quarterbacking, you know they you know, they're it's a whole different look. The team is, you know, much shopper. He reads the
defense very quickly. He's got and he's got a lot of guts the way he plays, and he really won that team over. And you know, Wilson had it was in a really badly bad position after that, but you know, given a second chance, and the way this all went down, I know the weather was bad, but you know, Lawrence didn't have any trouble throwing a ball. So that's the key. And that's like, you know, that's the other part and this stuff, I'm I was telling it to you yesterday, Dad.
In fact, like I'm sick of talking about the Jets is a sad sack organization that you know, let's go over the list of all the terrible things that have happened to the Jets and all the things that have gone wrong and all the low lights, like you could get kind of caught up in that and almost celebrated as Jets fan. I'm over that. I just want to see this team big, good again. But it just seems it's funny how the the way things work with this organization.
That again, I think Zack Wilson the clock struck midnight, if you want to call his Cinderella story anything other than actually a horror story. The fact that it happened with Trevor Lawrence the number one pick in when he was the number two pick on the field, and Lawrence just looks like a star. I mean, just we we've been talking about this for weeks on a t N now, uh that he just looks like he's a guy that
is ready to take the league by storm. And and at one point when he was, you know, putting the Jets away with a second half drive in this game, um, I was thinking about, like, when's the last time you saw a young quarterback that just looks so naturally in command? And it made me think of Andrew Luck in his early Colts days. And it's like, oh, yeah, Andrew Luck, who everyone compared Trevor Lawrence to come out of college,
is the can't miss prospect. He is a can't miss guy, dad, And it's just such a bummer that Wilson was picked right behind the Jets because have one loss or an upset win, I should say, over the Rams, things could have been totally different. It's it's tough to live with that, dad, when you know that he could have been yours. And not to mention Justin Fields has taken after Zack Wilson
as well. Yeah, I mean, you know, it just seems like although last year the Jets drafted pretty well, excellent with everything every position except the QB, you know, and if they only would have got that right, and you know, you can see what you know, winning seven or this year was nobody even expected that, but we all got
so high with them. Uh, the way the Jets were playing and the three tough losses before this one, we're really you know, I think what most Jet fans were still hanging in there to say, hey, look we have a chance, even going down to stretch here and even Solid kept saying that it and his interviews that hey, look this team can still do it. But unfortunately, you know, you know, the clock did strike midnight. Yeah, and I think and now to defend Wilson just a little bit.
Part of the reason why the Jets have went from seven and four and seven and eight is the offensive line, which is really not good. That's something they need to attack aggressively, uh, to shore that up. They also obviously need to get healthy. That would help. The running game has not been the same since Breeze Hall went out. I thought Bam Knight gave them a little bit of a jump start initially when he hit the scene, but
he's been very quiet the last couple of weeks. And you know, when they do make the move to to put in a new quarterback, they put in Chris strievel Er. Straveler and I I don't even know what the guy looked like. I didn't even you know, we're hardcore Jets fans, like,
who is this guy? He actually looked like a guy who had just busted out of the state penitentiary in Trent, and he had a little bit edge to me, had arm arm, sleeves of tattoos, and you could see he brought some edge to the offense, moved them in the first drive that ended up stalling in the in the red zone more yards than Wilson did in seven drives, which you know, let's spin over to the Jaguars nowadab just because Straveler did not get them in the end zone.
In fact, man, he has a wide, wide, wide open uh tie was it? C j Uzamau on a broken play and if he just hits Usama and stride or just you know, hits him upright, he goes into the end zone and it's sixteen ten with eight minutes to go or whatever, and the stadium is alive again ten minutes ago. Maybe just wasn't meant to be. So the Jack's catch a break there. But in general with the Jaguars, we know Lawrence is the real deal. Now, um, we know Travis Atien is a real deal running back, you
see that. We know that they have guys that can make plays in the passing game at wide receivers A Jones and Marvin Jones, Um, Christian kirk Evan Ingram, Now Dad has really stepped up. And he was a Giant's first round pick who never lived up to expectations. He shredded them in this game seven catches on eight targets for a hundred and thirteen yards. Every time they needed a big play, it seemed like Ingram was there wide open.
It appeared most of the time. Whatever. You know, the Jaguars did a very good job of coaching and figuring out how to go attack the Jets defense. Because the Jet defense, which has been playing so well, they seemed to know exactly what to do. They were sticking with the run, but when they did pass or when Lawrence ran, it was like easy right. I mean, it was like no sweat. There's just a lot of talent on the team and it started out very shaky in terms of
offensive line play. On that first possession, the Jets get immediate pressure on Lawrence. Like I said, Quentin Williams gets the sack fumble. UM. But the Jacks defense, uh theme all night, stands up and they go three and out the Jets. Uh. And then that was it. They gave up a field goal based on a short field turnover by the offense, the only in the game by the Jaguars. Jaguars didn't really have any penalties in this game. Uh.
Playing in rain conditions and wet conditions. Um, the ball got loose a couple of times, but it was just that one turnover. This is a team that's playing very sound football, a team that obviously now believes and man, I would believe too, because on the night now that they beat the Jets and moved to seven and eight, and that is their third straight win in four out
of five. Uh. For the Jags, we learned on the same day that Ryan Tannehill is out for the year for the Titans, so that team is now laid pretty much bear without their veteran quarterback. Um. And now you have the Jaguars getting the Texans next week, and we don't need to book things, but we will book this one. Um. I feel like you're gonna see them take care of business in that game on New Year's Day and they're
gonna get uh to eight and eight. And then they have the Titans on the last week of the season. And I just think anybody that's following both of these teams right now, the Titans and the Jags, you know exactly where this appears to be heading. Where the Jags are most likely gonna win out here, and they're gonna if they do that, they will hit the playoffs in a five game winning streak, playing a home game with Trevor Lawrence a ending in a second year. So all
is well in jacks Land, in jets Land. That I gotta say, you know, you know, you come to California with Mom and it's a great time. We're having a wonderful time as a family. Um. We watched The Godfather, uh last night, we watched some Christmas movies. Um Mom made her or you know, iconic spaghetti and meatballs tonight, So we had that in the third quarter. So things aren't all bad. We got a new puppy that showed up on the scene, the Captain or cap or Cappy
for short. Uh, name that because we picked him up from um the shelter the foster Mom. On the same day, Iron Judge was named Captain. So as bad as the Jets are, Papa, I think there are a lot of reasons to be happy as well during this holiday season. Yeah. Like like I said, you know, I think most Jet fans were all disappointed what has happened. But you know what, it's been a pretty good season, uh in terms of you know, a lot of progressive progress with a lot
of new players that look really good. Uh. And other than a quarterback position which has been disappointing, you know. And I gotta take my hat off to the Jaguars again because you know, the Jaguars. Anytime any NFL team has to go on the road and it's bad weather, and you know what, they had it all together and you've got to give them a lot of credit. Foot away they played and I though there are a lot of good UH candidates that for a Coach of the Year.
But Doug Peterson, the guy who won his Super Bowl with the Eagles kind of got run out of town there. That what he's been able to do to kind of provide them with stability, he makes sense to me, especially
if they end up taking this division. And I know Justin's producing right now, and we don't need to bring him on Mike because he's he sees the freight train coming right now, and I'm just gonna give him a little distance to understand that because he knows this is this seems like it's the Jags time in this division, which is bad news for the Around the NFL podcast because we had forked they were one of the teams that we forked, Dad, like, when we picked teams about
midway through the season that have in our minds no chance of making the playoffs, and the Jaguars are one of those teams. And and then the Titans stopped winning and the Jaguars mostly have stopped losing. So here we are trying to figure out the exactly Uh, Doug. So that's it, Dad. I'm trying to spend positive that life is good in general. Being a Jets fan in December. This year is bad, as it's been for many Decembers, but in recent years it's been all the months, not
just this December. And I think as bad as I said, to kind of put a bow on it, what I said at the top of the show, Wilson, there was a scenario here where Mike White stays in the line up to the end of the season and gives them some up and down play, more up than down, but kind of, you know, the bottom of the league's starter or really good backup level play. And then they go
into the offseason not quite sure what to do. Mike White's a free agent, Zach Wilson under contract, and maybe they go band aid rap band aid route and go get a Andy Dalton type guy and have we're gonna compete. We're gonna have Andy Dalton. Just using him as a random example, but you know what I'm saying, We're gonna have Andy Dalton compete with Zack Wilson in Zack's third year, and we feel like he has a chance to make big strides. We've really liked what we've seen from him
in the UH summer program. No, I don't think any of that's happening with Zach Wilson. And I think tonight will be remembered as the night the organization turned the page on Zack Wilson. And when they do that, they're gonna go get a quarterback, a veteran quarterback, in the off season, and we're gonna take this team and we're gonna bring back Resall and we're gonna bring back this defense with a quarterback that's a professional and look out, Papa.
So maybe brighter times ahead. And we needed this loss to spin forward as an organization and a fan base. How about that for a spin? Dad? I like that. I like that a lot. Alright, Dad, let's uh, what are we watching tonight? What are we gonna do? We're gonna, uh, we have so many options. Now we watch The Godfather. Maybe we'll watch that the offer that show on Paramount Plus.
That's about the making of The Godfather. That's right, that's sort of why we watched The Godfather, which I've seen so many times that as you know, when knew those lines back and forth, it seems I was gonna I was gonna say, that's that's one of your most well known traits. Within the family, not just our family, but the extended family. Your love of the Godfather, which I think in some ways, uh is why the lock Father has come into exist existence on around the NFL. What
is it that about the Godfather? Because I feel like you sometimes even use it as a compass in life, uh, in terms of how to deal with people in business. Is there an element to that that that's why you like the Godfather so much? Well, you know it has it has the family aspect of it. But you know the biggest thing is you know that you know the lines and everything that are any actors in it make
it so special the way it's done. But those lines that everyone knows, all those short ones that you can fit into situations of I don't care what job you have, that will fit And that's what makes it always special, I think, and that's why a lot of people use those things. And what is the line that he says to Fraido that I feel like you've said many times through the year, is about you know who you should
be loyal to? What does he say about the Uh? Well, the loyal but you know what that's well, what fraid but you should always be you know, you always got to be loyal to the family. But when everyone's family, you never go against what. Don't ever speak up against the family again. You're my older brother and I love you, but don't ever take sides with anyone against the family again.
But you know one of the you know, the the there's so many funny lines in that that I just I can't even think of all the ones that have gone right now. But yeah, that the way it rolls. I think anybody that has watched that movie that they'll say exactly what I'm saying just minutes ago. Alright, beautiful, alright, Dad, thank you for joining joining me tonight. Dad, thank you to everyone for listening to the hashtag Kansas Cast recapping
another very disappointing Jets loss. But in the big picture, maybe it's a win. And for the Jaguars, there's no big picture picture needed. This is a team that's rolling. We will be back as a podcast on Saturday, Christmas Eve. We will be doing a um rundown of the afternoon games, the early and late games. Uh Saturday Christmas Eve, you will get a full episode of Around the NFL Dark
on Sunday. We'll be watching the games on Christmas Day and then we'll be back with another mini recap of the Christmas Eve night game and then the three Christmas Day games Monday morning. So a lot of content come in your way. Make sure you check it out, all right, that's it, alright, Yeah, it was excellent, Dad. I wish it was under better circumstances, but we've come to expect these things on someone. Yeah, it seems alright, everybody, until
next time. You know what you gotta do, Heat the call.