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It's Elec...Trade Deadline Day!

Nov 03, 20201 hr 4 min
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A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler are joined by Patrick Claybon to discuss the trade deadline and moves that were made (3:40). The heroes pitch trades they think that should have happened (34:05) before hitting a MNF recap between the Bucs and Giants (42:05) and previewing the TNF matchup (56:41).

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Be Around the NFL podcasta football Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas, coming to you from a virtual room filled with hero Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, and Patrick Clayborne. What is up? Boys? Who I mean? You know, big day, trade deadline, that's nothing else, that's it, that's it. We were yes today. Of course we were recording on the day of the

general election for the United States of America. Um I I had been told during one of the game telecasts this week that Tuesday was a day off for the entire NFL company. But I have been working since seven am, so that feels as if it needs to be modified to give a more thorough understanding of who is offen who is working. I still get emails from the New York office because I took the job when I lived in New York for a year and worked out of that office once a week. And yeah, I do like

getting on days like today. They're like, well, if you really knew need to get into the building, they give you certain instructions and stuff. And I'm thinking, these these New York fat cats real work is like, at some point you made the decision to be you know, a sportswriter, someone who covers football as an adult um and a blogger instead of like a corporate hack. And so corporate hacks get these days off. We remain steadfast in our duties.

They can actually get in the building, all the corporate hacks out there. We have to like email six people and demonstrate an absolute need to get into the building, and then like, it's like, are you sure we could have somebody rough rifle through your things and bring them to you in a plastic bag via fed X in six weeks. It's like, no, I would, I would like to have you know, my stapler or whatever it is.

NFL Film sent me something on March twelve that I believe is sitting on my desk, and I'm about to pull like mission impossible, Tom Cruise at the top of an Asian skyscraper. Move to get in there. Anyway, it's

worth it. And you had beers on your desk too, I mean, like, why not you know to you those beers from Germany or so Yeah, I thought, okay, sorry, anyway, yes, it's election day and we were I would say firmly reminded too, U be civil and not not get too hardcore and sharing that realm of our personalities and opinions. But we hope that everyone has voted. And uh, I do remember four years ago when we did the show

right after the election. That was an interesting show. Today's show is right on the eve of the election, and uh yeah, there's some butterflies. Let's face it, this is gonna be a wild night for this country. We're gonna keep the focus on football right now. Patrick, how you doing? By the way, I was gonna in the Claibon house tonight. I'm living the dream. You know. We we have the you know, the the child who is dealing with the running knows which is Defcon five here. Uh so he's

hanging out with us. We'll go get the little one and uh you know, we're honestly, we're okay. Uh We're just we're watching the results for everybody else. We got a lot of we we got a lot of family, uh in in Alabama. So we're we're watching there and we're good, you know, no matter what, we got each other and uh, if everything goes down, uh you know, we we had a good run. All right, let's get

into it. Um. The trade deadline just passed as we sat down to record today Tuesday, and a bit of a dud, you could say, Um, uh, you had let's see DeAndre Washington. Uh, the Dolphins acquired that running back from the Chiefs. You had another trade involving the Dolphins. The Patriots acquired wide receiver Isaiah Ford from the Dolphins in exchange for a seventh round pick. Uh. There were a couple other trades we could kind of dig into.

That's that those were the deadline deals. However, a little bit bumber great because I know you've tracked this for a couple of years now, that the trade deadline had had heated up in recent years and it was turning into something a little more saucy than it had been in previous decades. But no, Dice, Yeah, it had been. And we saw a couple of deals. We've mentioned the Carlos Dunlop deal last week, and we'll get into a

couple of smaller deals like Kwan Alexander. But I do think the fact that you get a compensatory pick back, uh if a good player leaves via free agency, really kills kills the deadline. Patra always makes this point, and

he's right. You get a third round pick back if like a high quality starter uh leaves your team in free agency, like like a Will Fuller, Um, who I know you, you're gonna mend and Dan And so it's like unless you're getting that third round or back, unless you're really in a hurry because you get it a year faster. If you trade, you know, trade it now, then it's not quite worth it. Mark, would you like

to say something today? I agree with that point. I mean, I think it's also there are a lot of teams because I I one thing that kind of gets on my nerves about the trade deadline a little bit um and it and it's happening on Twitter. I'm sorry that I'm always pinpointing that app but it's every all. It's everyone wanting their teams to be It reminds me of free agency six months later. Everyone wants their teams to

be super active. But for a lot of these teams, like making a picking up a veteran for what's going to be seven or eight weeks and then having to deal with what happens after just this year specifically, doesn't feel like it made a lot of sense. Like maybe a team like the Saints, they're going for broke. But here's why a lot of teams in the middle. It's

our fault though, because it's great. It's good content, not ours, like the four of us, but just the quote unquote media because we we do tons of trade deadline content because it's scores, you know, on TV, on the internet, there's like a month worth of trade deadline content because everyone wants to read about it. It's fun. And so then the fans get like a rationally, they get their

hopes up a little much. I guess just like eight years into me being like overly excited about a minor trade, I've kind of not caught off guard or swayed emotionally by that as I have been in the past. All Right, let's if they didn't well, if they if they didn't want people to talk about it, right, if you were a close source to a situation, then then stop leaking

discussions regarding will Fuller there. Um, you know, there's just there's only so many players that that are available, and fans obviously want teams to win, and personnel want to keep their jobs, and so there's that clash there, uh that that kind of makes things not happen sometimes, And you know, fans get sad, but they still you know, the games are still coming, we hope on Sunday, and they'll have something else to think about. Let's be last.

Bill O'Brien. I mean he's always good for that's crazy man. Pour out one for Bob, Bobby all right, So Kwan Alexander, Greg mentioned linebacker acquired by the Saints in exchange for a conditional fifth round pick, an Kiko Alonso, who I feel has been traded more than any player in the history of our league. Kwan Alexander, if that name rings a bell um, but not because you saw him making

a bunch of plays last couple of years. It is because the Niners gave him a ton of money in free agency last year and it was one of those when speaking of content mill and scoring, Greg showing that he's the old boss by using like corporate room slang for stories that do really good metrics. Oh we had a big score. I don't even know if that is

slang free agency winners and losers story. But Kwon Alexander was labeled by many as an overpaid by the Niners, and they now decide to move on without him, moving him for not a ton of value. Yeah, they get a fifth round pick, and it just got me thinking. And you're right, they paid him a lot of money last year and he wasn't a huge contributor to their Super Bowl run. By the end, there was you know, open question whether he should be bench because Dre green

Law was playing so well. So they have two good young linebackers green Law and Warner. They don't need Alexander. He's been hurt a ton, he missed a lot of tackles. But it did get me thinking, like how this forty Niners team is going to have to transition, and you know, we'll talk about Jimmy Garoppolo, but also de Ford was a guy they spent a pick and huge money on before last year. His guaranteed money has gone after this year,

I think they'll probably move on from him. That They've always kind of been a high risk, high reward type of teams. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. This one didn't work because they basically are just giving him away, you know, trying to save a little money to the staats. Well, I mean it had they had, you know, the fourth quarter gone differently in the Super Bowl, everyone in the Bay Area would not have a problem with the money

spent and everything else. When you don't, when you don't, you know, finalize that Super Bowl win, the questions begin. I mean and dancy your point. On Kiko Alonso, he now is in his fifth city. Um, he is been traded endlessly. He's thirty two. He reminds me of the resume that I had when I was thirty two, where I kept moving essentially west across the country and asked, like a family friend, why I was not finding um

well paid working. He said, I'm looking at your resume and you, frankly, you look like someone on the run um, which is slightly concerning to employers. But he is from Los Gatos, right outside of San Francisco, the Cats, which I spent a really bizarre New Year's even one time.

A little uh, Kiko Alonso, nugget, nice nug bro. We've been working at NFL media long enough, Mark that when he was the second round pick to the Bills, he had a nice rookie season with them, and people in Western New York were so depressed about the state of professional football that you would have thought that Kiko Alonso was Lawrence Taylor, the second an Old West favorite. Hasn't played this year, So that shows you what kind of value Alexander as Kiko Alans is coming off a serious injury,

has not played alright. Speaking of line back suckers on the move the Steelers, this happened before the deadline today. The Steelers acquired inside linebacker Avery Williamson in seventh round picked from the Jets in exchange for a fifth round pick. Uh. Jets, essentially you know he Avery will Williamson. This this is the kind of an example of why you don't get as bad as the Jets get without there being layers

of poor decisions. I think it was three seasons ago the Jets side Demario Davis, who was a nice player for them in the middle of their defense. Uh, he hit free agency, and then they made the decision instead of retaining Davis, they signed Avery Williamson from the Titans. And Williamson had a decent first year, blew out his knee a second year, and then was kind of in the doghouse with Greg Williams in year three. And Damario Davis is now an All Pro and one of the

best rush linebackers in football. So a lot of these things have to go wrong. But the Steelers get a player here, uh, Patrick that can somewhat fill the void for Devin Bush who was lost to the tourn A c l a couple of weeks ago. And that was the discussion right pre Devon Bush, was we need somebody who can play with speed in the middle of our defense. They lose Bush and what what? I fine? Right, the

Jets have somebody, you know, Greg Williams. Of course you have to uh first adhere to Greg Williams and then be successful and uh, you know, it didn't work out for Abey Williamson, who has a great bit right of doing things in his full uniform and so as soon as the trade happens, he's out there handling the cab in full uniform with an umbrella, which was great. I think it fits it. He fits in Pittsburgh. He's gonna

give it that defense to be plug and play. And that's the kind the type of thing you look for in a trade deadline, right. A team that's a certified seller, uh that's in the seller that's not winning anything, and a team that's good uh and and you know they exchange goods and services and it works out. I think it definitely works out for the Steelers here. Uh, we'll have to see how the Jets uh use those picks. Always take other guys veterans and make them look better.

That's I guess that's coaching. They all like Steven Nelson and it's just true. They've taken a lot of other guys free agents. Uh, you're not that excited about and they're like, Okay, that guy solid. Now that he's with Pittsburgh, they were looking at him. Actually, there were whispers that when Ryan Shazier went down, they looked into him, So it's there's been a interest in him for a while. The Titans are having all sorts of issues getting off

the field on third down. They can't rush the passer, the secondary is inconsistent, so they acquire cornerback Desmond King from the Chargers in exchange for six round pick. This one, um, I was scratching my head a little bit trying to figure out because I know that King greg had fallen out of favor uh in l A. But he was a All Pro guy two years ago and now he's going for a six round pick. That doesn't happen a lot and a double All Pro because he was an

All Pro special team or that year. That doesn't happen a lot either. I love watching Desmond King. He seems he seekunda. Reminds me of a better version of Chauncey Gardner Johnson, who annoys everyone he plays against. You know, he's just like a poll He's got like a ton of energy. And um, he was in the doghouse last year because of disciplinary issues, some sort of I don't know what it was, and it was always vague with the Chargers, but the coaching staff and him seemed to

have problems. And so that's perfect. And he's on a contract here, so they only had eight more games of them. They're not going anywhere, but it's huge for Tennessee, who's just so bad. They're historically bad on third down. They right now are the worst team according to Mike Sando in recorded history on getting off the field on third down. They've only recorded that since since. But that's like, that's amazing that they're the worst team ever, not just the

worst team this year, the worst team ever. So anything that can help is doesn't keep saying the Titans don't have an identity on defense that's a distinct identity. So this threatens that identity. If he comes in and makes them better. Um, don't you feel like we're hearing it a lot this year in various teams connected to the worst ever defense and name the category. It seems to be a thing. Yeah, somebody has to be the worst right in. But when you when you like look at

being the best year ever for offenses makes sense. If you're worse than everybody else, they're still bad. So there's a lot of competition to be the worst in at anything. Though, there's got a king so versatilthough, I mean I loved watching and playing in the Titans seemed like in theory they'd be the perfect team for him use them in

a bunch of ways. And the match making. The matchmaking seemed odd right too, because all the teams that have secondary players that are worth trading for are still contending. So especially when you look at saying that the East with like there's a fuller for the football team or UH for the Giants. Getleman's signs um blanking on his name. Dberry. Yeah, James Bradberry who we brought in to UH as a rookie right to replace an All pro and Josh Norman

he brings him back. So but the problem with the East is those teams are all technically still contending, so they're not they're not gonna shift them. And so like King going to Tennessee was maybe one of the only things that could actually happen a team that was looking to deal somebody and a team that really needed help in the secondary. So I'm glad it worked out for both of them. Yeah, it feels like a good reclamation project for sure. Um, all right, moving on, that's kind

of the trade deadline. It was kind of a but what are you gonna do? Still a lot of fun stuff to talk about, but let's hit the rest of the news, and uh, let's start in San Francisco. Not a fun situation for the Niners, who are just I don't know. I don't want to say it because I've mentioned on the show, you know, I do the Power Ranking show, and they have vexed in the all season because they're just every time you think they're done, they rise.

Every time they rise and you're ready to take them seriously, they slide. But now something else has entered the picture, which is just injuries at another level. And Jimmy Garoppolo will start there. He has a high ankle sprain again, but this is a different one and this one is worse. Uh suffered in the loss to the Seahawks in Week eight. UH Kyle Shanahan deemed it a whole new high ankle sprain. Um, it's worse than the last one. He will be sideline

four to six weeks. He's been moved to injured reserve, and there is a chance he needs surgery. And if he needs surgery, his season is over. It doesn't stop there. George Kittle, that's the jangat piece, that's the most important part of the San Francisco forty Niners offense. After further testing, it was revealed that he had a broken bone in his foot. It's a fracture. He is an I R. He is out eight weeks and if you do the math, it's pretty much done zo for George Kittle. Uh Sessler.

I don't think there's any I usually don't say Cessler. I don't like that. Sometimes I appreciate it. People use last night like you've done it to me. Sometimes it always stops me in my tracks. I know he los fuse it. When you do that, then I I forget what it is I'm supposed to call you sometimes because I remember that one aspect of it really annoyed you, and I'm like, which one was it that Dan doesn't like? And then you're making your own so I don't you know, yeah, hands,

this is a little short. It's like something my C y O coach would call me in fifth grade if I was, you know, not getting back on defense fast enough. That's beside the point. The Niners. They're done now, right, Mark, Well, I mean I'm considering that, you know, just days ago on our preview show on NFL Network, I'll mention, Um, I was just you know, singing praises all over again about Kyle Shanahan being the coach that can coach around

injuries better than anyone else in the league. Well, at some point you just have to wave goodbye to the ship, and too much has happened. I don't know if someone has a hex on that team, but I mean, I think for me the question you have to mean certainly someone like George Kittle, the new that he is deep into the future with his team, it's fair to ask if we've seen the last of Jimmy g And if you say that, you know you paid Kwan Alexander A ton of money, and he gave you what thirteen starts

or something. They've given Jimmy g eight five million for thirty starts, and and and he's regressed, if anything. I mean, he's you know, he's giving you less to look at. And so I think it moves the Niners into a really pivotal off season. Where are you gonna hang tight with this quarterback going into next year or you're gonna look around, because I think it's fair to look around. Well, especially when you think of the former Kyle Shanahan quarterbacks

who might be available. You got Kirk Cousins, UM be tricky to it'd be tricky to trade him. But I'll never forget um Mike Silver being on our network reporting that Kirk Cousins was going to be a member of the forty Niners eventually because it was a you know, a unique report, Um that basically Kyle Jannan wanted to

bring Cousins in, but he had to wait a year. Uh. And that was like in the March ofen and then Belichick comes calling with a guy Garoppolo at a very ridiculously cheap value, you that they weren't really looking to get, and so they take them, they take them for a spin.

They win six games in a row, and it's like, okay, let's let's ride with Jimmy G. But it's never really been um a great fit since Jimmy G tours a c L. Now that's a small sample size, but you just don't get the feeling that Garoppolo is ever comfortable. So you got Cousins possibly available in a trade, and you got Matt Ryan maybe possibly available in a trade. Who Shanahan was smited by the football gods with two?

What did Kyle Shanahan do? I mean, this whole the soul forty Niners run has been totally killed by ending except for last year. I mean it's tough. I would point to Connor wars um notation during our you know special about various uh that theories, conspiracy theories, where I think it probably ties back to an offense that the Shanahans laid on the Manning family a long time ago. I don't have any more details to that, but it's just something to look into. Yeah, it obviously is what

drove Patrick Mahomes to complete that third downpass. That's already clear connection. But at Gregg's point, like legitimately so if but if Atlanta is near the top of the draft, and we know Trevor Lawrence maybe one overall of the Jets at Lantam, looking at Justin Fields out of Ohio state,

Matt Ryan's available, Zach Wilson is at by US. There's all these quarterbacks available, I think with there already been a quarterback backlog, uh coming in that Jimmy G is going to be a Chicago bear in one like that just came me thinking about this problem in New England Patriot. I mean, they would give up a pick for Jimmy G. Here's the thing, Jimmy G. People think it's contracts bad.

It's not bad anymore. There's no more guaranteed money. He's making about twenty four a year, which is literally the cheapest veteran in the league. Like that's what Teddy makes. And uh, I could totally see Belichick like giving up a third or fourth to get him back. I think it was Daniel Jeremond who said recently, um that what is it? Thirty five starts is what you It's interesting

to me that Mark said it. He Garuppolo has made thirty starts for the forty niners, but it's been over four years now, and it's like at a certain point you have to factor in the durability to all this as well. And Patrick, you made the point of Tyreek Hill Or is it Sammy Watkins down the sideline that changed the Super Bowl? Or But sports is funny. I just pulled it up on YouTube because it's a moment that lives will live on and infamy for the forty Niners.

One thirty three to play, Emanuel Sanders beats, the corner, beats, the safety has a step and Jimmy Gene misses him by three yards on what would have been the touchdown that would have given him the lead back with ninety seconds to play. What do they hold on to win that game either way? I don't know. But it's just that sports, and there's no no one's talking about Jimmy g coming or going if he hits on that past to Sanders. Um. But we'll see what happens next, Hubba

love quarterback drama. Moving on, Man, what a rough week for the Ravens. You blow a ten pointly to the Steelers. Lamar Jackson looks like you have I don't think I could say that. Uh, you lose Ronnie Stanley or left tackle for the year, and then Marlon Humphrey are all pro corner announces that he has contracted the coronavirus and as a results, seven close contacts of Humphrey that from Tom Pellicero added to the COVID nineteen list. Uh, just a very tough situation and COVID is it's really the

wave is coming. I mean, it's been happen. It's been a rolling wave in this country and this world for months now, but in the NFL realm, you feel like it's there's a tidal wave building here. Well, it's it's back to you know, June where we kept saying if it's happening in the country, it's gonna be happening in the NFL. And we're at record numbers now in the country.

So I am. I am concerned obviously, not just about everyone who's contracting the virus, but just just the how likely it is to finish sixty games for all these teams. It seems to get tough for each week. Now when it comes to the Ravens now we've become experts that we know that these close contacts have five days to get off of it, which in you know, if you do the math, they could all be eligible to play on Sunday except for Humphrey. Um, but we'll have to

wait and see. Yes, certainly, yeah, go ahead, Mark, No, go ahead, go ahead. I was just gonna say, certainly more concerned about the virus. As Greg mentioned, when you're nearing a hundred thousand cases a day. Uh, those are gonna exist in football, They're gonna exist in the postal service everywhere, uh where people are are out and they're around people. Um But in terms of concerns, losing Stanley

definitely hurts. But you know, they lost a game on a Monday night to the defending champions, and then there's the only undefeated team in the league and there's an incompletion in literally the very last play of the game. I'm not super concerned going back to seventy two and

not like teams win every game. Uh So, I still think this Baltimore Ravens team, Uh, you know, is a real problem for the a f C. I mean, look at the players that if, for instance, this five day window doesn't get they don't get out of this five day window. You've got four five linebackers that are being sequestered right now. Or put it. You know, quarantine sequestered, isn't the incorrect term. I mean, that's that would be

very problematic. I mean football in general. They are luckier than the Skies that these games in general happen every seven days for these teams, because this, this is the kind of thing that would wreak ultra havoc if football happened every three or four days. You've got full position groups right now, no matter whether they play or not, they will not practice all week. And now that probably for some teams is lesser of an issue for the

Ravens than it would be for others. But that is a inequality, and these inequalities have added up for certain teams. But we kind of forget about it. We're just looking at the win loss record. I mean, it's it's messy and there's something there is a little bit of an ominous aura to it as well. We have two months remaining in the regular season, right Look at MLB there, I know they played in the summer, and it's a different situation with COVID. They survived the regular season by

the skin of their teeth without using a bubble. As soon as the playoff hits, they got inside a bubble, and they were able to get through the season without any COVID issues until the Justin Turner incident in the deciding game of the World Series. So almost perfect, but not quite there, I guess. I guess I'd be kind of shocked if they don't have some type of bubble situation in place at some point the season. It feels like, as as my mom would say, you're spitting in the

skoy and waiting for something terrible it happened. What does that mean? Well, don't you don't spit in the sky. You don't say things, You don't put things out there in the universe that you don't want to come back on you. Um, but yeah, and my mom doesn't talk like that either. But I like to enhance the uh the queen's accent. Don't spit in the skoy all right. Other COVID news cowboys place uh Andy Dalton on the

COVID list. Are you gotta you gotta be kidding? Thankfully, according to a todd to report, he's not Oh, he's not asymptomatic. That's a that is not a good choice cluster of words. I misread that that means he has symptoms, right, if you're not asymptomatic to say his symptoms, what are we doing here? Anyway? Bad news for Dalton who it could not be going worse his Cowboys season plays poorly,

Ben gets concussed and now has the COVID. So Ben Denucci, you would think we'd get another start, But now we're hearing that he was so poor on Sunday Night football that they might be bringing somebody off the street to start that game. The Cowboys are absolutely in the running for the number one overall pick and they're playing the Steelers. So whoever you put out there is not going to be thankful for the opportunity. I would are they in the running that? I mean the Jets gotta win two games.

I feel like the Jets are as much in the running for oh and sixteen. Well, no, the Jets are the leader in the clubhouse. But if you are sitting on they have two wins, right, and do you see another win on the schedule? They could be told I would have been with you, Greg before I saw the Benda Nucci game on Sunday Night that it did not inspire confidence. Well, I don't mean two and fourteen is on the table, although they do have you know games in this this uh terrible division left, but in two

and fourteen is very on the table. I guess I would if if we were going to do a sandwich, I'd put the Jets final record right at one and fifteen probably would be my Well, you also don't need like you don't need the number one overall pick to be in you know, a gold position. Come draft. It does go back. I think we talked about it last week. We're throwing out different theories for some silly game we

were doing. What if the Cowboys have an opportunity to bring Justin Fields or some other hot shot into their building, would they would they have the gall to hit a complete reset? I mean, hold on, Jerry Jones was into Johnny Manzielle when Tony Romo was the quarterback, So I would put nothing past. They said all the right things, and they always say all the right things. But suddenly that opportunity where Trevor for Trevor Lawrence came to the

Dallas Cowboys. Yes, they would consider it heavily and probably go in that direction. I think they say the right things unless you're Ben Denucci, poor guy, if listening to Dallas radio, this morning heard and the owner, his owner, Jerry Jones, saying that, well, this guy just wasn't ready for it. You know, it's just buried Denucci. As if

Nucci is the biggest part of their problem. Could you even imagine if you miked up the luxury suite during that game, like, look, who's the guy that cleans his glasses? Stephen Jones goes that boy ain't ever starting another game for the Star. You hear me, that boy is dumb. What's the what's the skit with the shining the glasses business? That's that they're fine with that? Okay, well that happened.

That was Stephen Jones. By the way, it's like the other offshoot child very absolutely in the running for Trevor Lawrence. It is in their mission statement. It's been new she sees the football field again. Was it the Eric Trump of the Jerry Jones family? It was? It was a great I thought it was a grandson, but I could be wrong. Maybe it was a son in law. Alright, let's let's please, let's move on. Let's come on tracks here. Um all right, another COVID with one last COVID thing

to share. Hopefully another one doesn't pop up by the end of the show. But yes, Broncos general manager John Elway and CEO Joe Ellis tested positive for COVID. Nineteen. Rap sheet reported UM that the team is confident the virus transmissions haven't outside the team facility. But who knows that John always sixty years old, Joe Ellis is sixty one. I mean, that's not in a um Nott's not in the zone of Hey, you're young and fresh and you're fine. I'd be concerned about this stuff. I mean it's being

all over the place. I mean some of the college players who are talking about how long it took to get rid of some symptoms, some of the some of the pretty common um mental side effects that you're a little foggy, you know, for maybe months afterwards. That concerns you. When you got quarterbacks who had it and you know, things like that, it didn't get a lot of attention. But Rick weil Armstead of the Jaguars is out for the year because he was hospitalized twice with with COVID.

That was a guy who might have started at running back for for the Jaguars, And so it's all it's all a lottery and once once you make the decision to play and not apt out. Then whatever happens with you COVID was is, it's just kind of on you. And so that that's my concern is what incentive is there for a player to report symptoms? Um, if if you have symptoms and you're just going to be out and potentially, uh, maybe your career could be in question.

So Marlett Humphrey had symptoms last week, was out a day, didn't test positive, and then was backpracticing with his team for two days and then played in the game. So that shows everyone could be doing everything right. No one's at fault there, um, but there's no right answer there, right not to belabor, but he's one of the guys that they do the test on Sunday, you don't get the result till Monday, and he went into the game having been positive for Corona. That's not that far from

the Dodgers scenario, right. I Mean, that just is very murky, and it's like, we're gonna press on, We're gonna play all these games, but you're talking about like the health of your players and coaches. Honestly, how did we get here? Imagine if you were imagine it's two thousand, seventeen, the four of us are doing the podcast, and then somebody showed up and like, here's a tape of the November three show, including the top of the show discussion. By

the way, so let's take this back to about two. Um, imagine, it's just it's madness, the world that we live in and habit. It's I would say, like Mark, you just don't age. Love the shirt. You're just just don't age. I know you are older, but you know, you know, thanks, Well, it's you know that I'm you know, these are methods that didn't exist back in that I'm using right now on believable. All right, Um, alright, so there's the update of everything that's going on in the league before we

get to Monday night football. Curious boys, Um with the trade downline now in the rear view mirror, if you have any trades that you think should have happened, and I'll start here. Will Fuller should be on the Packers right now. This one made sense to me. There was reports there was smoke around this. Fuller as on an expiring contract. He's a veteran that will command pretty good money, you would think on the open market. The Texans are a team that is neither a team of the present

or the futurist things currently stand. So anything to recoup some draft assets you would think would be something they'd be interested in. And for the Packers, man, you know, you watch that game on Sunday and it just remind you, as Dalvin Cook rips him apart, that they have a lot of the same problems on defense that ended their season last year. And you might not be able to fix that in a trade deadline or not have anybody out there that you feel comfortable going after. So why

not do the next best thing? And you have Aaron Rodgers playing at you know, all all pro levels. Um, go get him another big time weapon and see if you can just outscore your problems. I think your window is finite with Rogers. He's doing it in a big way this year. Why not just go for it? Because I know you have Alan Lazard and I are and I guess he's coming back at some point. But Marcus Valves Scantling is one fifteen out of one seventeen on

the graded wide receivers for PFF. I mean that was an obvious area of upgraded and would have made the Packers terrifying because Fuller has been healthy and very good uh for the Texans this year. But apparently, according to reports, there was a disagreement internally with the Packers about what he was worth Fuller, because he is an injury risk. He is a guy you have to then re sign. Do you want to give up a mid round pick?

I assume maybe a second or third for a guy that might not stay round or might not stay healthy. I get it, but it was worth the risk to me. Here's the thing. They just they just used the second round pick on a guy who's not even playing. And so like I J yeah, A J. Dillon and then Jordan's love is the first round pick, and so I I I understand that that you want to maximize value. But how many years of Aaron Rodgers does the team have left with your draft pick? You said that it's

not that many, So why not? I saw, like we all sat there and watched Alan Zard wide open catch a ball. He ran a great route, but he got chased down from behind. He just he doesn't have that type of speed Will Fuller does. And I'm sure he's an injury risk. Everybody on earth is an injury risk. That's why we're doing these shows from home, because everybody's an injury risk. I don't understand that logic. I'm with you, Dan, Uh,

this this is a trade that should have happened. I I am fine with the Packers not making this move. I just when when you watch there, usually I want them to make a move. But when you watch the Packers, lack of receivers really seems pretty low on their needs. They are great passing attack. They were a great passing attack last week. They were extremely efficient throwing the ball. Uh, Lazard will get back like, Yes, I would love to have will Fuller, but then you got to give him

the franchise taggers sign them long term. And so unless you're willing to do that, Um, I don't think that's I don't think it's like a huge like move for them for for eight weeks. And I and I don't like the fact. I don't like the argument that they draft they drafted poorly. Uh. In terms of A J. Dillon, it looks like and and Love they're not getting anything out of if if Love has a chance of being the top ten quarterback, that was a great pick. They

have two first round picks a year ago. You don't see anyone like going crazy because Rashan Gary and Darniell Savage gives them nothing week after week. I mean, Savage is just there. Gary gives him. It's like that's what usually get with your picks. So it's like, I don't mind if you take a chance at a quarterback, get your defense better, that's all right. Carry that he's been on the phone with Goody, I think, and then they

all get along that stuff though. That's my thing that they've already got their quarterback right, so use the pick, use the three, use it too. Whatever. Again, it wasn't sounded like it was kind of costa to It was not just that they didn't use the first or second. They waited until the sixth round to take a defensive player. If you got run out of the building in the in the playoffs against rheemost in the Niners. And that's all ancient history. Now. My point was, yes, Greg, is

their offense passing offense especially very good right now? Yes? But would it have made them better with will Fuller? I think so? And why not? But they have their reasons, all right, who's got one? Who else got one? I've got one? I want the Cowboys to step up because Mark you know, tweeted it out there in primetime a couple more times during I mean, poor uh Nance and Romo are going to do uh Cooper rush starting this week. That that's the Cowboys player who I guess is probably

gonna start who has done person. It's a real person. I saw him in training camp once. At one point he was in a in a battle with Kellen Moore. How about that. Yeah, here's what they should do. You know, Jerry Jones got into the Hall of Fame, um, you know, for doing things for the good of the league, like making the league more money essentially. You know, the NFL is famous for doing things for the good of the league. How about you go trade for Jamis Winston for the

good of the league. And uh so when we're watching the Cowboys, it's just a little more fun to watch. Just do it for the seven million or it's like thirty five million people watching on Thanksgiving, Let's watch Jamis Winston. Who knows, you might even win some games and win this terrible division. Anyways, I'm sure the Saints would give him away for very little, just just just for the entertainment value. Was Winston Gregg is coming off a season

where through thirty interceptions. Now you're gonna trade them in the middle of the season and say, learned this playbook in a week and you're would be entertaining. You can't tell me they wouldn't be way better with what's the worst and that can happen. I do throw a pick, give up before fourth for the good of the league. Seriously, the amount of people. If you did the math, it's probably like four people are gonna be watching Cowboys games nationally for the rest of the year. Just do it.

Why are you giving up a high It's gonna be a high fourth round pick, right, Why are you giving that up? Whatever? This sings to be fine with that one year, Like, damn near one month's out of the box. I'm only down on your track because you were down in mind. Greg uh Patrick, you got one. Yeah, I got one of the Denver Broncos and Kareem Jackson to Cleveland for a third round pick. He's got an out in this contract that basically he is only gonna be

about a two million dollar cap hit next year. You get a productive veteran player that gives Joe Woods another piece to play with they can do a lot of things. You gotta move around, be versatile in the secondary. I'm not saying give up right on Andrewson dejo or any of the other guys in the secondary, but you get another piece because look like, let's be honest, like how many years of Cleveland Browns contending do you really get?

So yeah, move moving Joku for whatever pick you wanted to take the place at another piece in the secondary. While you've got Myles Garrett playing in a defensive Player of the Year level, and just just see what you can do. You know, you've got this kind of neutered offense right now. Maybe you get jobbed back and you you become like this defensive team, uh that that can try to do something, you know, make a run where

we added a playoff spot, let's do it. I like the idea because they they're in there bye week, so you'd have time to acclimate that works in the COVID, you know, waiting window of that business. Um they're from office seemed like just completely intent not to do anything, but especially at safety where I mean sendejo um has been a huge liability. Actually, week after week I thought

they might go after Anthony Harris of the Vikings. Um, you know there are some shared DNA ties with the Fansky and others, and he would have fit in well, but they were very inactive. Well I don't I'm not shared DNA in terms of career, Dan. I mean that's how we meant us that on the show. I don't know how you use it. You explain how you why that offended your Why explain why that got you up

in arms. Mike's cutting out, I can't. I can't expanse literally like literally sound bite and the whole thing goes off the rails. I like it. Kareem Jackson is a is a beast. Watching him last week just laying out Chargers, it was like, it's sometimes it's unsafe to be around Kareem Jackson, like he was putting people in the hospital last week. All right, Mark, close it up. I will give you a quick thing with no with literally no UM analysis at all. Alden Smith to the Seahawks. I

could just see it. But this is what kind of stuck with me. If you really wanted to shake up things up for two teams that's still be leaving themselves and these are two teams that are playoff hopefuls, but have major identity assues. It is the Bears and the Eagles. So what you do is you switch coaching staffs from top to bottom. Okay, Doug Peterson goes to New York and he's paired back again with Nick Foles and also

in to Chicago. He got Sorry, but Doug Peterson goes to Chicago and he gets Nick Foles, Matt Nagy and Andy reidoff shoot also goes to Philly. Both staffs I think, get a massive fresh start. Jim Schwartz gets a good Bears defense, Chuck Bagano a good Philly defense. We went and Foles needs some life, They need some new activity, and they're invariably gonna meet in the playoffs, which now

flipped opposing coaching staffs. That's how you turn and Eagles in the playoffs scenario into something that has a lot of bizarre storylines. I would watch that game. Let's just trade the teams themselves well, because him like Matt Nagy with the Bears is killing me. But if maybe he goes just you give him a whole new world trade. For the Eagles, you trade a guy with a statue outside uh and Jim Schwartz for for Matt Maggie. He

already traded a guy with a statue outside. I thought you were gonna say, just how about trade Wentz for falls and like a first round pick, Now that would be sassy. That's interesting too. I like that well, I never thought of like if Wentz got traded a mid first round pick with that doesn't seem like enough. But I'm just gonna be a first and a second. It's been a bad year, Carson Wentz. We'll get into that more on the Thursday preview show. All right, let's hit

someone in football. Looking for the tie two point conversion shotgun Jones looks to his right, throws to his right, and it is broken up. Trying to hit Louis flagged down Antswine. Winsfield thought he won the bat penalty marker on the play and here different. Yeah, hold on, but you know you could take Tom Brady out of New England.

He's still going to catch the brakes, you know. Antoine Limfield Jr. Goes streaking across the end zone, knocks away the two point attempt from Daniel Jones balls a little bit behind his intended receiver and a little bit late. But that was the nature of this game. Bucks beat the Giants at the meadow Lands, a game where I think a lot of people were surprised that the Buccaneers

didn't just roll up the Giants. But New York has been shown a little bit of fight the last couple of weeks, but they keep on getting beaten a heartbreaking in fashion, and and mark this game without it turning into a complete pile on here. But this game really

is different. If Daniel Jones is just competent, if he if he hits on a couple of open throws downfield, if he makes the right decision with a ball when the pass rushes on him, if he even makes that throw on time on the two point conversion, the Giants have an upset win. But instead your left answering, wondering about whether he is the guy in New York. Yeah, and Dan, I know that you text with Giants fans back East regularly. I do the same with a great

friend of mine. And like we were just it's a roller it's a human roller coaster ride with Daniel Jones, because for a couple of minutes we were texting aboutw you've got to go get another quarterback, forget the forty game rule because forty games puts you week twelve of next season, and I just think this is who Daniel Jones is. But then a couple of minutes later, he does something that kind of makes you think, wait a minute,

he is a special athlete when he's on. There was this one, I mean, there's a bad play where I thought that, and they pointed out that he missed what would have been a clear touchdown on one side of the field and he whips it for the other direction interception Carlton Davis. We saw the miss balls deep, but then we saw it at the fourth quarter the way that he made connections and converted third and third and fourth downs. That gave me a little bit of hope.

So ultimately I'm left utterly confused. Um, I really think that Joe Judge gave me an idea that I stick with Joe Judge. There's something about him and what he does for the Giants that they have not had under their previous coaches. But with Daniel Jones, I'm left be fuddled as to what to say about him other than I think he is this hot and cold roller coaster ride. Where where's the highs? Though? I mean they were there last beautiful throws here and there, not last night, not

last night. That was a that was a disaster, and they were giving him a lot of credit for that last drive. It reminded me so much of the Sam Donald seen Ghost scheme because Jones was like kind of begging to just be pulled out of the game or for it to end. That last drive was a nightmare. He he almost threw four interceptions on that drive alone.

There was the fourth down play and this is the play where it killed me, where he event they picked up the fourth down, but there's three guys rushing, there's absolutely no one around him, and he just starts running around, almost runs into the sack, totally panic, doesn't wait for guys to get open, and and he's just not there and kind of like the same Ghost game. It was. It's the game that got me thinking like this, this might not this might not happen, this might not work.

I was very high on Daniel Jones coming into this year because I did see the highs last year. Um, but I'm not seeing it now, just whether it's confidence or or what it is. He's so scrambled mentally and and and mostly physically too, like it's not like he's been accurate, which is which is what you would you would want out of him. It was tough, like if they had a better backup, I think would not hurt

to give him a week or two off. And people were wondering, like, Greg, I saw your tweet about the third down and we had exchanged tweets about what Jason Garrett was calling on third downs, and it's just it's probably hard to call plays for Daniel Jones when we talked about Jamis Daniel Jones is basically Jamis Winston and his willing us to give the ball to the other team.

And you want to pinpoint the highs, but the problem is, like it's you know, the scores at the end of the game are cumulative, right, Like, it's not the seven points in the first quarters the same as seven points in the fourth quarter. And you Dan, you mentioned the throw to Slayton, Like if you take out the Derek Carr pass to Henry Ruggs over the weekend where like a gale force wind blew it forty yards out of bounds,

that that was the worst pass attempt all all week. Uh, the stats running wide opens probably a touchdown and he just he airmails it's nowhere clothes from a clean pocket, and it's just you have to be able to succeed

in those circumstances, and he just he didn't. I mean, I'll say this because I I know where Mark Marks coming from on this too, because he knows Daniel Jones is fully aware that he's having a bad game, and he knows he's in prime time, and he knows his pressure starting to build on him, with maybe internally in the organization, is certainly with the fans. That route of the Giants. It showed me a little something that he kept coming and and didn't completely fold up the tent.

The touchdown past the Golden Tate was a beautiful throw. I think he does have the skill set, but I think it's it's a confidence thing more than anything else right now, where he was trying to just make things happen, and and you know that's a rookie or a young

quarterback mistake. So I don't want to completely write them up, but the Giants are kind of starting to edge now into that territory of the Jets, only it's a year sooner where it's like, all right, we there are things we like about this kid, and there are things that make us super nervous and we might be picking number one or number two in this draft. Uh, that's a tough spot for the Giants and the and whoever is

making the decisions. It won't be Dave Gettlman. Well, you're not going to let the Jets and probably Washington goes select franchise quarterbacks while Dave Gettleman takes a right guard. I mean, if if you have the opportunity to upgrade and there is not going to be there, if they're in the top three of the draft, right right on you, Daniel Jones, Is this like he's going to correct all these problems? Did I see a couple of good throws

last night? Do I see someone that can make all the throws but seems completely confused and isn't is in an offense where he's losing confidence? Yes? But am I gonna like say that he is not on any level like athletically fit to be a pro quarterback. I won't say that. Like I did see some good things, but I don't think he's in a very functional offense first of all. And I don't know the coaching did an

awesome job last night. The running game was awesome. They were playing the number one, So you're basically you're done with Daniel Jones at this point, you're done with him. I went in super high, but I think he's imploding. I mean, he's the worst quarterback in the league right now. So you gotta do something about right now because this team is competitive. I think I just mean of like a regular starter coming into the year, him, Him and

Donald would be the would be the two picks. He's lost right now, and you have to figure a way out of that. I mean that that game was one a million times by their receivers, and their offensive line played well and their defense played great. The only reason they lost that game was because of Daniel Jones. There was a tough game for him, There's no doubt about that.

On the other side of the all the Bucks, I think it's uh, you know, I kept them, for instance, at number three behind the Steelers and Chiefs in the power rankings this week. Uh. And then people are getting on me, Oh, they barely beat the Giants and all this stuff. This is a long season in our league, and what happens is every once in a while you don't play so hot. But if you're a good team, you still find a way to win. So, yes, should you be a little disappointed that they were kind of

sleep walking through this game? And maybe those Danny Dimes interceptions are the only reason they didn't sleep walk straight to a loss. Sure, but they won, so I kind of give them a pass, And I'm still hyper confident and high on them as they head into a huge Saints matchup on Sunday night, and they're only gonna get better. Uh. You know, as much as the broadcast discussed Antonio Brown, he's he's still the reason he's coming to the game him is because he's he's a good football player. So

they're gonna get better on offense. God Win make it back. They they'll be really scary and Todd bowls the job that he's done with the defense. Um, they're just a really good football team, a really solid football team. That's that's gonna be a problem in January to somebody. I mean, Gronk is becoming a better factor week after week. I mean that I question three weeks ago if you would

be and he's scored multiple times. You could see Brady going for him, and they bench, They essentially bench Rojo Ronald Jones and four Net. Well, I don't think four nets anything great at all, But I mean they've got a couple of guys they can use. Scottie Miller's picking it up and and like, you know, not to go back to Daniel Jones. But their defense is one that's going to confuse quarterbacks. Their secondary has sixty five. They have sixty five points off haikaways this year. That's second

in the league. I mean, this is one of the few defenses you can count on to mess up the other side of the ball. Yeah, I think I am with you Dan that I'm not worried about that game last night. I think the Giants have played sneaky good for a while. Almost the whole season. They've they've looked like a better, more competitive team overall. And it was not the bucks best night Brady has been. You know, had some tough days against Patrick Graham. I keep I've

I've said it a few times. I think the Patriots dynasty ended in Week seventeen last year when Graham came in there and and with Flora's helped cook up Brady pretty good mentally as the coordinator of the uh the Dolphins and UH he had he had Brady a little confused. They're not the same without Chris Godwin. I do think you saw, like possibly one little problem with this team last night is the loss of thet of a starting to show up because their biggest weakness, it's amazing this

is their biggest weakness is their past rushing. On paper, it looks good, but jpp in in in shack Barrett really aren't having great years. Uh and opposing quarterbacks have a lot of time and it's an aggressive defense, so you can try to beat him over the top. I mean, every team's got some issues, but I think that's that's something that other NFC teams like the Packers, for instance, with a great old line and great quarterback, can maybe take advantage of what if they ever got a rematch.

I did think it was an interesting commentary, A commentary on Daniel Jones from Bruce Areans that he was able to like put Rojo in the dog house while for Nette was kind of being inconsequential. I think he ended up with like three point eight yards per carry. I think that was Bruce Arians saying, I can I can still punish this guy and not play my guy who's been tearing up the league because I'm not super worried about the Giants here and he shouldn't there. All right,

there you go Monday. And by the way, the Monday Night Football telecast, Um, I have I have a couple of takes. I have. I have one take and Greg, you mentioned something before the show. I love the graphics. I love the visuals of Monday Night Football. ESPN has done a nice job. It looks very clean. UM way into that. So after a couple of years of that telecast getting killed, I just want to say I like that.

I even like the dope uh little graphic things with like when they had uh Breeze and Brady on the Seesaw with Peyton manning that computer graphics. I'm into that. Um So, I just want to say I'm enjoying the visual of Monday Night Football, even if I didn't enjoy the grease man Bryan Greasy with the following quote, Tom genuinely wants to see guys succeed. I truly believe that,

and he's doing the same thing with Antonio Brown. I. UM, I don't want to speak of the fame Sessler Greasy incident that may have colored my relationship with uh As as a broadcaster. But there was the moment where Daniel Jones basically PEG's winfield in the back on the two point conversion that would have tied the game, and Greasy's like, Tom Brady is a winner, and it was Tom Brady over there using a mind trick, the four Daniel Jones

at thor horrible fast. So of course I joke about it, and I've got angry Brady defenders assuming that I'm you know, why did why did Greg get on you like that? That was now Greasy Greasy a former teammate of Tom Brady. So not not totally on mission guy and uh last night and there's there's lots to praise tom Brady about. Last night was not his best game or the passing games best game. It was the defense setting them up like it's okay to call a spade of space. And

I think they've been doing that. I've been enjoying this Monday Night crew. Um more. As the season's going along, I think they're getting their footing. They're put in a tough spot. You know, it's a new crew, a lot of a lot of eyes on them. I think they're getting more comfortable. It's a it's a solid watch. I mean I think that like in the past, you these

guys were given years. Like I think when like Chris Fowler and Kirk curb Street did Week one, and my my notation was, I know, these guys are a one week thing for pros and then they go back to college. But they've been doing it so long that they just had this natural chemistry. And asking these three man booths to come in and have that right away as a big ask. And it's also happening in a terrible environment where, like you know, Steve Leaves trending after the game, everyone's trying.

You say one false word and you're getting killed. That said, your announcing money in a football The rope is short, I mean, so you better find that chemistry quick. We gotta check with Andrew Marshant to the New York Post. Who is I find him to be the greatest media reporter out there on Twitter right now. He founds out about stuff that happens at our shop before we do. So yeah, so I want has been on our show and his his brother is a listener, so that's cool too.

We love the whole Marshawn Klan. I want to see if they're still looking at this team is a as a rental until they can go get some high profile talent or if they're getting a legit audition right now. We love that stuff. We talked about it typically in the off season. But a little nug there, little combo on a on an election day before we say goodbye, uh, Thursday night football, Let's turn our attention now to week nine. Here, we are all the way to week nine and we

hit it's Packers at Niners on a short week. Uh obviously for both teams, and uh we talked about the Niners plenty here and the tough situation there in now schedule is really an uphill climb. And now they don't have their quarterback or their best player on the field. They already lost their best defensive player uh in Nick Bosa a couple of weeks ago. Uh So the Niners are in a lot of trouble. What do you think

about this game? Mark the Packers coming off a disturbing loss and in their own right on Sunday, I think the I mean, the biggest news item is that Coronas hit this game too. That there's you know, rap Report, and Rapp Report mentioned that there's pessimism Aaron Jones will play because of this calf injury. Uh, they don't have a j. Dillon because of a positive Corona step test, Jamal Williams and Kamal Martin. Jamal Williams, another running back,

is a high risk close contacts. So you've got Tyler Irvin and Dexter Williams in the backfield. They have a combined fifteen carries in the NFL. That worries me less than if it was a Benda Nucci being rolled in, because running backs sometimes just be able to kind of make it work. But again, it's another game that we're not you know, six weeks from now, we won't look at the result and remember some of the positive tests. But it impacts an offense. And I think they've missed

Darren Jones a little bit. I mean, and there's certainly gonna Jamal Williams has stepped in and been pretty good. But to take them both out, I mean, that's not They want to be able to run the ball, and then you're really compromised on that front. If if if Jimmy g and Kittle were in this game, I'd picked the forty Niners just because I think the matchup is so perfect against this run defense that of the Packers that everyone just is crushing pet petting for with good reason.

It's a perfect matchup for Kyle Shann to kind of have one of those scheme games. I wouldn't surprise me at the forty nine Ers. The zombie forty Niners still find a way to win some of these games down the stretch, but they always right, he can. He can come up with the scheme game and in the right matchup. But now it's not it's not just Jimmy G. Nick mollins is gonna start. It's weird that I think losing Kiddle and Deebo and Deebo Samuel is indeed out for

this game again. You know, it's bigger even then losing Jimmy G. De mullins um because then it's just there's not enough things. You also don't have Moster and Tevin Coleman in the running game either, but there's there's not

enough things. And you could even argue like over the course of this season, losing both the Ford and then Buckler, who they traded, has been a bigger impact on the forty Niners than any of these offensive injuries because they just don't have a pass rush that can scare you anymore. And you would think against Aaron Rodgers and this Packers offensive line, and that's that spells doom. What what Kyle Shanahan does so much as maximized the talent, right, But

when you when you've used the talent? Right? So how does all that? How do you like? How many reverses can Brandon Ayouk run? Uh? And I really think, honestly, like the broken foot, the Debot came back from he came back so fast from it. Um, you know they got We've seen dez uh Sammy Watkins in the past lose whole seasons to that. I was surprised Debot came back. He looked the steps slow. Um, so they've just they've been going through it. So it's it's hard to not

pick uh. You know, the Packers in this revenge situation against the team that just demolished them, just ran right over them. They had no answers for in the playoffs. Um, you know, if I believed in looking ahead to an opponent, I guess I would call that here have happened. I think Dalvin Cook just dominated them. But I mean that's what happened to the playoffs. They got ran over. It's just you know, is Ja Michael Hasty going to run over this team to then it'll be close. I really

bet it'll be close. I don't know what they're saying in the desert right now, but uh, they're saying, we want to make money, that we're going to whatever we say. Packers have their problems to they're not quite getting the same juice upfront from from the Smith brothers, who are not brothers. Um, you know, they they're they're not quite. They're not a perfect team either. I would have I would have loved to see this game with everyone healthy.

It's annoying, you know, Greg, every Smith though, is a brother on some level because at one point someone named Smith was the first Smith. Well then we're all, if you really want to look at it, especially now in this moment in time, we're all brothers, you know, we all blade red. Hopefully I've never felt closer to you at the end. You know what, By the way, claybron you are obviously a voice of reason typically on social

media with you know, things like sports cliches. But I will not be here and stand down as you say that trap games don't exist. Trap games absolutely exist, and for you to casually assert that they don't minutes ago, that will not stand on this show. And it was. It was a minute in twenty six seconds ago. And yes, trap games are not a thing. You play the people that you're playing against, and nobody, like a ball is not in the air and you're like, wow, I got

Calvin Johnson next week. It's not literal subconscious. It's a subcontent in the mind. Banned Tanucci is done in Texas that he never steps foot in Gerald world ever again. That happened in the luxury suite. That's why he's not playing. It's okay, Ben, we're back to back to Bay Ridge with Benny the Lucci. She should be shining the glasses. I found him a roll right there. You got a job. I bet he could make about a hundred and thirty grand a year shining in the glass. I'll shine the

glasses if that's what's the prices. All right, good stuff, Patrick claybron you're a prince. Beards looking very sharp as well right now. That would probably be my reaction to us doing this show and be like I have a beard. That's the big takeaway. Um, yes, we'll be back on Thursday. The world is gonna be a little bit different or exactly the same. We shall see. But thank you to everyone for listening. And and Ricky Hollywood, how are you?

By the way, I've been noticing you because I could see you when you're just, you know, producing, lounging on the bed. Today you're petting the dog. I didn't seem like you're paying that close attention. But at the same time, I know you're a woman that can multitask, so maybe you were. Yeah, I've been paying great attention, so exactly like someone says when they weren't playing attention. And you

guys nailed it. Good stuff. Stan hasn't signing off for Ricky Hollywood the Great Ricky and make sure you check it out. I hope she's you. Gotta penned on your profile. I'm sure Ricky, you're amazing our article that came out last week in NFL dot Com Out and Proud in the NFL. Uh at you Clavan, the Quiet Storm the Old Boss. Until Thursday,

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