"HEY, DESHAUN WATSON REALLY IS GOING TO GET TRADED" Spectacular

with heroes Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. Yes, it is indeed the Hey, Deshaun Watson really is gonna get traded spectacular and we cannot wait to dig into all of the madness surrounding one of the great talents in football. The report came out this morning ESPN's Adam Schefter that Watson requested a trade from the Texans. Officially, the Watson Watson made the request of the team weeks ago, sources told ESPN Ian Rappaport had some similar reporting h later today.

And now here we are boys in a place that we've really been or never been before. We've never tread in this territory. Greg. A quarterback at this level, Jay Cutler is an example of far distant cousin. When he was a hot shot in the league, but he was never truly a superstar. Deshaun Watson is, and it looks like he's on the move. Are you buying now? Is

he definitely going? No, I don't want to ruin like the theme of the show, but the fact that you know, a contrarian to the bitter end Rosenthal, Well, here's the thing, Yes, I if I had to guess, more likely than not. But number one, you just said that the trade request came weeks ago, and that was before the Texans hired David Culley, which you know we can mention he was the receiver's coach in Baltimore before the Texans decided to keep their offensive coordinator Tim Lewis, who Watson is a

huge fan of. I do think the fact that reports are coming out today indicates that Watson's camp is the one putting out there and they don't really care about all that coaching mumbo jumbo, and they still absolutely whan out. But I'm doing this like piece next week of like what you know, what each team can do to make, you know, next year's super Bowl. And my thing for the Texans is like, don't trade Deshaun Watson. It's still

not over. He's still on your roster. You might not find a guy this good for thirty or forty years, exhaust every possible avenue to make it not happen. And maybe they're too dumb to do that. But I'm still

I'm still leaving that little door open, little crack. It is fair to question if they're if they're UM, if they have the wherewithal to make the intelligent choices UM at this point from here on out to keep Deshaun Watson, because the one thing that doesn't appear to be UM, you know, pushed by pr or or de Shaun Watson's camp, I think it's just legit that the relationship is broken, and it's broken from the highest order in Houston, and you know, you know, David Culley, UM, I think in

another scenario would be a celebrated higher for the kind of career he's had to some degree what he's gone through to be He's gonna be the oldest head coach on the day that he starts. But I don't know why anyone accepted any of these jobs with this situation, you know, burning the way it is. But if you are UM the Texans, you you have anything you can you can use patients, you don't have to something. Oh, the Dolphins want to Shaun Watson, let's just make that

happen for them. Like, I don't think it's gonna be quite that neat. Um, but you have lost this quarterback, You've lost the centerpiece of your organization who's not James J. J. Watt, And you've probably lost J. J. Watt too, So it's a pretty dark time for the new people in place to be taking over and having press conferences trying to make us sound excited about the Texans the fan base. I feel for them. That's Uh, that's a good point. Mark.

That was the next point I was gonna make that. Uh. Listen. I played some some like a grade douchebag celebration music at the top of the show. Um, it's an exciting thing to talk about as a football fan because, like I said, this is uncharted territory. The idea of a player of Watson's magnitude being an open on the open market. This is fun for everyone except for Houston Texans fans. Uh,

and that sucks. So we understand that Texans fans, if you're listening, if there's one podcast where you want to jump off, and we will not hold it against you. But this is not dancing on the grave of Deshaun Watson's um Hall of Hall of Fame speech in fifteen years and talking about how great his relationship with the Texan what Texans was and Houston fans. That's a bummer that it's probably not gonna end up that way where

he's a life time Houston Texans player. And Seth Paine when he was on our show a couple of weeks back, who's obviously plugged into all things Houston sports down there, you know, he mentioned it. They Texans came into the league in two thousand two, they waited fifteen years. As fans that have someone that was a star at that position, and I'll tell you, as a Jets fan, I can tell you that's that's kind of the low end for for a lot of teams how long it takes to

find a franchise quarterback of Watson's ilk. So this is a very difficult situation in Houston, and Greg, I agree with you, they're gonna try everything in their power to to make sure this doesn't happen. But at the same time, the fact that the chefter reports out here now and that's all it's all very public. It feels like behind the scenes things have already been exhausted. And the fact that this comes the news comes hand in hand basically

with David Culley entering the picture. None of it feels like, uh, you know, it just happenstance. It feels like he's officially setting the wheels in motion. Let's get this thing going absolutely And there's also a chance the Texans aren't that interested in doing everything they can to keep him. I mean they haven't really, they haven't really done that by their actions. They could have done that back in December. I mean they couldn't. They could have done that by

getting rid of East to Be. They could have done that by cal McNair taking ownership of the team he owns and taking control of the situation. Uh, and that hasn't happened. So I remember the Alex Smith trade, and I know, you know, Alex Smith going from Kansas City to Washington is not the same as the Shaun Watson. But I remember at the time thinking, well, this is

because it happened during the Super Bowl week. I think it was Monday or Tuesday night is Super Bowl week when the news broke, And I remember thinking like Okay, I've covered the league a while now like that, nothing like that's ever happened at that time, and it changed the timeline. And we've seen some other trades and you know,

stuff last year that were agreed to early too. It did I think, maybe get these teams in the mindset that Okay, this his agent who by the way, um was Jalen Ramsey's agent two and got got Ramsey out of there that Okay, now is the season. Like if you're the Jets or the Panthers or whoever you are, like, Okay, if we put together our massive package of trade offer right now, we might be able to get the deal

done this week. It's it's possible at least, and I think the Alex Smith trade and a few other trades that have made since then, so it says like it might not be waiting around all offseason. I would also just note that there are people out there that you know, no Deshaun Watson and say that this is not um. He has not money oriented the way that some athletes would be. That he's fine um losing money, losing bonuses to make his points. So for me, it kind of fits.

The ages are different, but I see it a little bit more as a Carson Palmer type scenario where he basically said, look, I'm done with this organization. I don't need to play. You don't need to pay me, um, but I'm not playing for you anymore. And of ultimately they had to they moved him, and they moved him for a lot because they were dealing with Hugh Jackson on the other end, who wound up as a Bengals

employee like less than a calendar year later. All right, for Hugh just getting it all in a shot in from the Browns Van Well, I mean he he got that was that was a major trade. I mean that that is the closest sort of DNA to this where the quarterback was so unhappy with the highest levels of the team that he simply said I'm done and they had to move. That the greatest trade in NFL history.

Hugh Jackson always selling that I don't yeah, and I don't want to pile on the snark with the David Culley higher but sixty five year old coach um Andrew Reid said he had many a cheeseburger with him in eighteen years together. That's that's good. That's kind of an endorsement the passing game coordinator with the Ravens, which a team not known for its passing game, that the wide receivers coach on the Chiefs team that didn't have a

touchdown in that entire season. Listen, I'm not saying I'm not Wait, I have to say what his resume is in part, and he's and that he was the wide receiver's coach that year. Um, this is not a hotshot higher one that I would think Watson would be like, wait a second. You know, they do know each other.

They apparently they got real tight at a Pro Bowl or something, and I don't know what real type of they There is a relationship, but this all happened before David Culley and and maybe if they had gone and hired you know, Salah or some one, that this could have been righted. But I don't think the Cully has anything to do with this at this point. That's what Ian has sort of said, that these are two different

ships in two different parts of the sea. All right, so let's let's dig into let's play a game here. Let's play agent too, Deshaun Watson, Greg, You're big on agents and who they are and their connections and all that. For the purposes of this game, I don't even really need to know the guy's name. If we want to name them, we can. But we're gonna take on the identity of this agent and we're gonna spin a wheel. This is my son Jack and Harry's the Floors Lava. Uh.

It's pretty good game. We play it. It's a board game, it has a wheel, and I have now repurposed it for the purposes of this podcast. I let them know this is dry erase marker, so that's not a problem um in terms of the future of the Flora's Lava.

And what we're gonna do is go through all the teams that we that makes sense as a UM possible destination point for Deshaun Watson, or get through as many as we can before this gets boring and tedious, and UM, we'll play the role of agent, taking turns selling Deshaun Watson himself on the destination. Okay, before we do that, let's go through the teams that make sense. I'm gonna go division by division and let me know what teams should be hypothetically in the wheel, um and can be

chosen in this game. Buffalo Nay, Miami, Yes, definitely, New England. Yes, yes, Jets, Yes, that's what you hope the Titans. Now, let's get rid of the whole a f C seth, because there is no way the Textans are gonna trade the greatest player in franchise history next to J. J. Watt in division and facing twice a year so x amount all right? Uh? And a f C North Pittsburgh. Hm, Well, I I put some stock into the report that Ian you know,

put out there, Ian Rappart. They're going to try to avoid trading to any team in the a f C. But if we're allowing a f C and we're doing it with the Jets and the Dolphins, then okay, why not throw it in there. Yeah. I hardly think that they're going to rule out the a f C. They got a deal to make, I would preferably they would send them to the NFC. But if there's a beautiful deal in their conference, I would think they would think long a beautiful deal. Yes, Baltimore nor Cleveland. Yes, they

could definitely upgrade a quarterback. I think they'd have to do it behind the scenes. But I know what you're saying, but I don't think they would explore it. Took that seriously. Now, he's just because honestly, like, there's no chance, there's not a here's some thing ian has said that more than half the league and why I don't know about. No, I'm not antagonizing here. Why would the Browns be out

of this. I don't think they would be. I don't think they'd be out, but I think it would cause a lot of problems if you found out that they if they went after this, But I would to me, I would put them in there because they've got a young quarterback that they believe and I believe that. And for this game, No, I don't think then, fer to, it's too complicated. This isn't a Jay Cutler on the market, Greg Rosenthal, this is Shawn Watson. No, And I believed

in Jay Cutler back then. You know, Jay Cutler at the time was viewed as a top ten quarterback. He was, and he was traded from Denver to the Bears for I believe, multiple number one picks and it was a big, big deal when people gave the Broncos, including me, a lot of grief for it. Um Yes, ultimately it was fine getting rid of him. I think he was. He was a gifted uh thrower of the football. And I remember I actually went to Chicago that year in two thousand nine, um to see the opening of the U

two three sixty tour at Soldier Field. I mean, that is that some intense stuff right there. And I remember he was on the cover of like multiple magazines in Chicago as the next big thing. I mean, if he had spent his whole career with Mike and Kyle Shanahan, he would have had an amazing career. But that did not happen. Alright, anyway, Cincinnati, they're they're good with Joe Burrow. They don't even know how to trade. No, the a f C West, the Chiefs obviously here in no go

the Raiders. Yeah, we're gonna get the Raiders of this mix, right, the Chargers. No with Herbert Denver Broncos, Yes, definitely still looking all right now to the NFC Washington football team and the Giants, Yes, right, big yes on Washington. I mean the Giants keep saying we are a hundred percent behind Daniel Jones. I actually I don't realistically think they would get involved. As it feels a little thorny, forget a little too high high concept. Let's leave them out.

Dallas in Philadelphia, either of those teams, you know what, Dallas especially that you can't imagine they actually have a legitimate rivalry that two franchises, Houston and Dallas, and the ownerships. I can't quite imagine that. But there is something spicy

there with that Prescott being a free agent. I mean, if there's one player in theory available that could approximate Deshaun Watson's value, Dallas has him them have them though, right, but they could trade him, you know, alright, Saints franchise trade cap hell, you know his shaw Watson's cap number

is not too bad. Should we include the Saint I wouldn't rule them out as a team that is, would would look into it, absolutely, because what better way to come out of Drew Brees than to tell your fan base we've pulled off a mega deal for Deshaun Watson. Will figure out the details. You don't need to fan base. Okay, Well, addam Tampa Bay, let's keep him out of this. Panthers and Falcons, I'd say yes to both. What do you

guys think? Yeah? I think the Panthers ian again reported today that they are going to be aggressive, and they they seem like a prime candid. And I think Atlanta is under the radar a sneaky candidate because again, they have a quarterback that they could send to Houston that I think would interest them. M I would wonder about the cap hit there. But the Panthers make a lot of sense to me. Uh, NFC North, I just got the Bears as a team. That makes sense. You guys

have a another team you want to throw in there? Well, why not the Lions? If you're exploring, you don't you your quarterback is wanting to divorce from you start to imagine Watson wanting to do that. But sure, I don't think he would want to. But I mean, what would they pick up the phone or just say we're not even gonna even call? Where the Lions like? They don't think that's hopefully their mindset there come come bite some

knees with me. Brad Holmes came from the Rams. How much how much has he learned about wheeling and dealing from the way that less seat operates? Put them down. I don't think they're making the wheel, but they're they're okay, alright, alright. In the NFC West Rams and Niners. I have those two teams, and you want to throw in Seattle in Arizona, don't think so. And even the Rams feels like it would be tough. All Right, I got the wheel here, and I'm gonna just throw out five teams that feel

like players in this race to start. Panthers, Dolphins, forty Niners, the football team, and my Jets. And now I'm going to spin the wheel. Even the Dolphins on there. I see what you're doing. You're just trying to like steer Deshaun Watson A way. I got the Dolphins on there. Okay, that's the wheel. You see the wheel. I'm sure audio program, but I can see it. I appreciate it, and I

like the Arcade Fire Funeral album in the background. That was the episode of the Throwback Throwback podcast that yes, yes it was, and that was a great app check it out with Greg Rosenthal. All Right, here comes the first spin. Oh it is the Dolphins that we start with. And Wow, as luck would have it, we just so happened to have with us, uh, the preeminent Dolphins span in the film media, and we had scheduled that Matt

money Smith on the show. You heard him in the very top with the intro and a great word from money. But he was supposed to be on the show today technical difficulties, so off the bench is another alum of the Dave Damaschek Football program. Not a second choice, Henry, don't look at it that way. But you're here and we're happy to have you. Hey, fellas, how are you doing great? That's it's pretty good, all right, So hey, it is great to see you, and it's great to

see you guys too as well. How are you? And we're in your boudoir which just has my mind just doing very very very nice looking. It's an electric vibe in there, especially the laundry basket behind you. Um so landed on the Dolphins. You are going to play the role of agent right now for just Shaun Watson pitching him on the fins. I will give you about two minutes to do it. Go ahead, okay. I love it when you guys pretend to be people. So I'm so excited too, you know, as you know, I listened avidly,

so I'm excited to get to play this game. So I'm gonna beat this Shrom Watson's I don't have a name, but I'm going to pretend I'm calling him up on my on my phone. No call necessary. You're in the room. You're in the room. Hey, what's up one of you guys? I guess, I guess. We'll take turns being to Sean. But we'll keep it. We'll keep it pret simple with his answers. Hey, what's happening? Hey, d um so, I'm excitedly you've you've you've requested a trade from the Texas.

I think it's exactly the right thing to do. Let's get out of there, Let's go get you something, something good, and like, I don't have to sell you on. This is going to be pretty short. I know there are people talking about all kinds of teams. If you listen to the Around the Oh you do listen to the Around the NFL podcast, Dan Hands this week, just put a list, put a list together for you of the teams that are likely. But honestly, like you don't need

to get too far down that list. Right, there is one city, there's one team, there's one place that you need to be. It's it's the fastest rising team in the NFL. Is the It's a team that's gone from from the bottom and it's going to the top and you're you're the last piece. It's the youngest team or or I think the second youngest team in the NFL. They don't have a single player over the age of thirty. You don't have to deal with any old people. You can go there and be with guys your age and

be the face of this franchise. It's in a state where you don't need to play tank people who wants to pay taxes. You're the second highest paid player in the league. You don't want to be playing state tax Guess what you're getting that money? The government's having none. They don't need to pay the roads in Florida. I've given you a clue. This is Miami, Okay, right, I just sold you on the business side of it football. This is an up and coming team, great coach, like

a coach that the players their love um. They're gonna have to mortgage their future. They know they're in the middle of a rebuild and unfortunately there's you know, trading for you is going to mean that that they may take a step back in terms of bringing in some of the key pieces that they need to receive a skill, positions, etcetera. But you know, you can make the players around you better that the guys that they've had can't do that. So so that's fine. So the business side is great,

But then what about the rest of it? If Florida there's beaches, there's boats, there's what else begins would be that you could enjoy in Florida the beaches, boat, I don't know something else? Um? And about the state income tax? Yeah, and said that. I just said that, I don't know what I'm talking about. What are you doing? Don't get off snapchat? Um? And you know, look, this is the most exciting opportunity. Well, let's let's right now, let's call

Brian Flores, Let's let's call Chris Grea. Let's let's just give him a call now and just see, like, can we get this done? And then we don't even have to bother with any of these others. You want to go to the New York Jets, like they're not even the primary team in the city that plays football. What do you why would you want to go there? There are so many well I'm sorry to show them, but that's it. Alright, I gotta get this done. I gotta go all right. It sounds like a great player agent

relationship dialogue. What do we think about? What do we think about Henry's pitch? And Henry, you can now also critique your own pitch. Okay, I would say what I thought it was fantastic. But tell me if you tell me if you if you think differently, what's not to like? If you could sell the Texans on to us as being part of the package going in the other way? And um, I mean from a player's angle, Miami is a destination, unquestionably top two or three destination in the

whole country. Um, he could be the king. He could be the king of South Beach for the next not just his playing career, but like you know, Dan Marino is gonna he's he's on the way out, please in terms of icon and walking around South Beach. But de Sean could be that guy for the next thirty or forty years. I mean, you can go and take a team that's had nothing good happen to it in decades at the table is well set for him to become.

Let me ask you a question, Henry, um as now you're a Dolphins fan, Let's put on your fan cap. Are you really already out on the two? Is the future thing. I know it's not because this would be an extraordinary situation, but are you amongst the camp that is already kind of seriously worried about two of being a big time player. It was a very small sample size. Yeah, Like I mean to me, this is like a big win win situation, right. The big win is if you

can you've got the ammo. I mean this is obviously we didn't talk about this as his agent, but Ophins do have the ammunition with draft picks, et cetera, to put together a package that would be interesting to the Texans. I believe, um so on that front, I think they're good. I think the big win is the Texans go for

it and you can put together the package. You get to Shaun Watson, who's one of the in my opinion five best quarterbacks in the NFL and twenty five years old and locked up through I think in his current contract, and the Dolphins have the catch space to to be

able to make it work if it doesn't happen. I actually, my honestly biggest worry would be goes to the Jets, because then you've got two teams in the ANFC East with like a long term top five quarterback in the fold with him and Josh, I feel the same way about your situation exactly. Um if not, you have too. I definitely don't think we've seen enough of two. And I like that that. I mean, you know, I think

it was underplayed. The players that he was had around him at skill positions at the end of the season there when things started going awry were awful. Like he had he had guys who are playing quarterback in in the SEC wide receiver in the NFL year later, you know, in starting it's he definitely didn't get his chance to

see it. And I think the Dolphins have a really good plan that they were looking to execute, which was get the quarterback last year as part of was one of three first round picks, and then they've got two more first round picks and two second round picks this year to put the pieces around him. You're so excited about this. To me, I don't. I don't like. I don't see this being whichever way, I'd be hugely excited. I love to show you can talk yourself into the tour.

I can talk myself into the two. So I definitely think they need to give him at least a year with some great pieces around him rather than trying to throw the ball to and I think I think they're gm UM in Houston, you know, tight with saving you know to ah tour from Alabama. I think to U has been totally misread. I I have a I have hope um and you know, some optimism that he can be a good in difference makings darting quarterback, that he showed more than people thought and people are being way

too quick, and that he does have trade value. More importantly, they have the number three overall pick. I mean they have the number three and the number eighteen overall pick. So yeah, it's not as good as two, but it is right up there. And if you if you if it's to h and three, you kind of like to uh, if you're the Texans plus you have the number three

overall pick, that's pretty exciting. And from the Watson point of view, I mean, yeah, you're taking a pay cut if you get traded anywhere with state income tax because Texas doesn't have it. And you're saying, okay, that contract you sign and no money is not important at you know, the number one thing to Watson supposedly but basically getting traded anywhere but Florida and Texas. You're taking a pay cut.

That's a pretty big this game and exercise a whole lot shorter if we just want to include the state income tax free destinations. Have we mentioned the state income tax situation. We're gonna spend the wheel again, Henry, do you want to stay on for another spend? I know I'm gonna have to jump. It's wonderful to see you, and I I know I would love to, but I'm very busy. I have a day job is vice president

of international. That was his way to make sure we got that in again, to show how successful he's been since he came to America. UM. That's I really appreciate. That's that's part of the contract I have with you, guys. Greg. Thank you. You made a convincing case there as well. And I'm preparing to forgive Greg. He did something almost unforgivable yesterday on another podcast UM with with a friend of mine. But I think you're not going to give the Neo Reynolds podcast a little plug. I didn't do

anything unforgivable. I recognize that. You know, Henry has a kindred spirit. He likes to you know, throwing the throwing the jabs to people. I was just what did he do? Was offensive? Greg? I thought yesterday after I was taking the dog for walkers, like I'll entertain myself with two of my friends Neio Reynolds Greg Roll on the podcast together. About six minutes in, Greg says, I'm an as like

your friend Henry Hodge. What he does that sometimes? Yeah, he can't just speak about himself, he has to invoke other people. Here's the here's the thing. Henry took that as a compliment. I know, Henry, can you speaking of sky Sports? We might edit this out. I don't know.

Can you let them know that we noticed that we're not on their press release touting their talent that's going to be involved concerning Let them know that we're not angry, We're not looking to force any actions, but just let them know that we have perused the press release that Sky Sports sent out about Super Bowl coverage, and we have noted that we are not mentioned at any point in that release. Landed with a clunk, big, gigantic. You know,

I would definitely I'll have the conversation with them. I'm already talking to them on Time's behalf for some other reasons. But if they don't fix this stuff, and I'm figuring this stuff out, Mark will take the book from behind him titled Chaos and unleash it on the Let them know that we we saw the Dallas Clark Pub and we saw him getting pumped up, but we have not un You know, you guys need to have a middling career as a tight end being boosted. Now we really can't.

Now we really can't put this firt in the show. We're keeping it there. No, it's all right, Henry, Thank you for guys. I love seeing you. I hope you're all well. Send my love to your your families and friends and loved ones. See, all right, let's spin the wheel once more. Here we go. This game is moving at a feverish yew. We might not get to look at that. I replaced the Dolphins with the Raiders, and that's exactly the spot it runs. Starting to make me

worry that there's something wrong with the wheel. The Las Vegas Raiders up next. Mark Sessler for you, how about that you make the case to de Sean that the Raiders should be his preferred destination in the trade. Well, I would say this to Sean you know. I know that we just spoke a few minutes ago and I talked with you about Miami, But I think you want to talk about a real destination, a destination of a you know, it's like I'm versatile, you know, I I

shape shifter when it comes to these things. But now we're living in the world where he just keeps calling back twenty different times. Yeah, this makes sense. I mean, there's four of us in the room. Who's in the room here, so it's like I'm talking about the Raiders here. I want to tell you why the Raiders maybe not the team you would have thought up first. This is a special time to become an Oakland Raider. And number one, the money is going to go through the roof. They've

got consistency there. Their coach is not going to suddenly get bounced out and replaced by some sort of Machiavellian plot from the inside. Their coach maybe a little Machiavellian, but he's not going anywhere. John Gruden and you, uh, this is a great relationship you want you're talking about your issues with relationships with organizations. The Raiders are ready, from what I know, to make this move that they look at I know Derek Carr's there, but Derek Carr

is no more guaranteed money. He is going to be moved stage right. And this is a team right now, You've got Darren Waller. Imagine your career growing with Darren Wallers, Henry Ruggs, Jail and Richard, Josh Jacobs, Nelson, Aguilar, Hunter, Renfro. I mean, this offense, which was very exciting a year ago, is set to grow and bloom with you at quarterback. I love this destination. If you want to talk about one of the most historical teams in the league, it's

the Raiders. You could go down as an icon along with you know, Art Shell, Marcus Allen, John Madden, Jim Plunkett, the whole crew. This is a history making moved for you. And you move away from a team that's only a brown, been around since two thousand and two to the ultra elite gold class of NFL franchises, the Las Vegas Raiders. Let's do it gold class, all right, that's pretty good.

Cell I like that Sell. I think the Raiders, the Silver and Black, they're in that cowboys category for me, where I think there are a few teams that would move the needle just on selling the brand and the Raiders are one of them, and the fact that they're in Las Vegas. I think that's an interesting location for them, certainly better than trying to pitch him and go into Oakland Alameda Coliseum to spend your career the stadium. The stadium's cool, the stadium is awesome, the city is obviously

glitz and glamorous, and the brand is great. And I guess it kind of might come down to, is John Root in your cup of tea? Do you feel like he's a guy that you want to get in bed with for the next ten years, or do you feel like that's a guy you can't trust, Like Ruden is a selling point in a non selling point at the same it really depends where you come from. I think I think it could be. I think it could be a selling point. I think he did the QB Camp

QB Confidential back in the day with with Watson. I think he can scheme up offense. I guess that's what that would be. Part of the cell is look at this offensive line, look at what they've done offensively. It's pretty quarterback friendly. Um with Derek Carr. Now you might just have to cut Derek Carr because I don't think you can sell the Texans on going back to another car at quarterback with you know, with all do was ancient and you know David Carr got screwed over by circumstance.

He was he was a guy that never really had a chance. Okay, here's the thing in the Texans. If you trade Deshaun Watson period um, that is gonna be an unbreakable trust, a trust that you broke with your fans that some may never recover from. You come in and you tade you trade Hopkins, Watt and Deshaun Watson in the same year. Uh, some people are just gonna leave you forever. And if you try to replace them with Derek Carr, a mid range quarterback, that to me

just feels like any human want to be that quarterback. No, but if you're the number two overall pick, or you're too uh or you're I don't know who else it would be probably wouldn't be anyone, but like a supergar level quarterback. No, I think it's gonna have to you know, I think you're gonna have to be a little more than that. Then you're It feels like you're shooting for the middle. Um, all right, let's let's keep moving. All right,

I've replaced the Raiders with the Rams. That's fun, right, Yeah? Sure? Forts who make the cell? I mean, DeShawn? This is This is David, by the way, David mulghetta. Everyone knows me. I don't know what what he sounds like, but you know I'm David. Actually, you nailed it. That's exactly what David. Um. I got two words for you, Deshaun Watson, Kyle Shanahan. Go go watch some Kirk Cousins tape when he was

with Kyle. Go go watch the money that Kirk Cousins made after playing with Kyle she And go watch the Rookie of the Year season Robert Griffin the third had with Kyle Shean. And go watch Nick Mullins put up better stats and his first sixteen starts than you did, Deshaun Watson, Nick freaking Mullins. This is a team that was in the Super Bowl two years ago, has a great defense of mindset, has great offensive UH personnel to support you with Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk in a

running game. This this team is ready to win the Super Bowl in the first season you're there, and and to start a long, beautiful relationship. I'm out not even gonna listen to you, de Sean. I don't think you need two minutes to sell that situation and the idea of pairing with Kyle Shanahan for the next decade, well, yeah, you trust the connection there, the coach quarterback connection and and Shanahan's you know, bona fides uh speak for themselves.

And then uh, it satisfies for the forty the team wise, like you're saying you're an instant contender. And really, let's face it, if they the forty Niners, landed Deshaun Watson in the trade, they would be the overwhelming favorite. I would think to go to the Super Bowl next year. So the expectations are through the roof for better and worse. Uh,

for better or worse. Uh. And then it does also helps the Texans, Like we talked about what would be the ideal situation for the Texans if they have to trade Deshaun Watson, get him out of site, out of mind, you put him out there in the NFC West. Uh. You know it's still listen, this is this is not baseball or other sports where a lot of fans are regionally minded to Shaun Watson is going to be on the radar at all times in Houston no matter where

he goes. So but it's just the idea of potentially facing him in regular seeing games in a playoff game, you don't want anything to do with that. So this makes so much sense. What's like the biggest obstacle here? I don't see a huge, huge obstacle unless the Niners are unwilling to part with the immense asking price. If that's just not that they don't have a high because they don't have a high pick, so that you know

they have you could do that over years. I mean you can anyone could come up with some package outside of the Texans if they were in the reverse situation. And I say, it's like they are fairly high pick though, so I guess, um, what is their pick? Where they

where are they? I'm looking right now, But it's I feel like to get a quarterback, um, you know, of their liking, they would probably have to make a move and they have that they have the twelfth pick, but they also um have a cheap bridge quarterback that Nick Cassario was involved in drafting, and well, that's what I was going to mention. I mean, if you're easter being Nick Kissario like Jimmy Garoppolo feels like an extension of this.

They're building this fortress where it's like the scant few people that still believe in what they're doing are the only people they hire or entertain, Like, I don't like to what would be like you, I'm going to give this coach a chance before we bury him. You know, John Hier, people are already talking about David Culley as a bridge to Josh McCown that they really only want him for a couple of years and then hire Josh McCown.

I mean, I don't I think that you went and got someone that's essentially forced into a yes man role, but you Jimmy G would be someone I think that Cassio and Easterby would say, yeah, we could make that um work. He's a fun He's a fun throwing At this point in the level, in a trade level that we're talking about with Watson, Jimmy G is not the centerpiece of the trade. It's the draft, it's the draft picks um. But the fact that you can throw him in and and have a quarterback for the next year

if you wanted. Potentially, I could see Cassario one. The David Carr case as well, the Derek Carr case. Yeah, you know, you're right. You're right, only Derek Carr never misses games, and no, I'd rather have Derek Carr. It's more that, Um, I could see potentially Cassario loving Jimmy G just like I can see the Patriots being totally all about getting Jimmy G back this offseason. Yeah, I really could. Yeah, I could see that all right. Um, So that one makes a lot of sense. It is.

It is the draft pick. The teams that have that essentially lottery pick this year, I feel like do have an advantage. But the NFCC NFC thing is is interesting.

And I just say one little quick thing about the immediate draft picks for this year, like do you really want to like they're in rebuilding mode, Like having some of these first picks spread a little bit down the line, um, make more sense to me than like, oh, you're still gonna stink three years from now and you're gonna be being asked about, like you know, options for your first round picks that are on a team that's still half big.

And we should say like Watson has a no trade clause, so it is possible that the Texans get a few teams that have worthwhile trade offers and that Watson is a parting in choosing this team. I've replaced the forty nine spot with the Steelers. That was a bad spin. All right, Panthers, alright, let me make this case. All right, here we go, Sean, what's up big to me? Baby? Um, I'm David Mongolas, your agent. Get'll get David mal Ghetta. When David mal Ghetta speaks, going well so far, people

listen and uh. If I pick up that call and I engage with the big man upstairs in Carolina, an owner who is completely completely obsessed with making splash moves. Um, I think David Tepper is gonna want to do something. Uh. And now I tell you that this is an organization you want to be connected to because they are going in the right direction. Matt Rooley, so that he's done. I know you've been following his college career, what he what he did at Baylor, uh, and now what he

did in his first year in Carolina. Players love playing for They just love him. He's one of those guys. He's an offensive minded coach. Uh. He's the type of guy you're not dealing with Bill O'Brien here. This is not a Bill O'Brien situation or a David Culley know the were about color or Josh McCown creeping around the corner, you know, and don't listen to like guys like Greg Rosenthal out there in the media that just want to tell you that David Culley is gonna be just I

just want to give this guy a chance. Let's not take it personal with David Culley. Okay, No, nobody has been in a worse position as a head coach entering the league since Jim Tomsula. Rearranging deck chairs and the Titanic is what Coulor is doing. Matt Rule is the future there, like he is locked and loaded. Ownership is in lockstep with the head coach, and there are weapons there. You ever here, Christian McCaffrey, imagine you and McCaffrey sharing

a backfield together. We've got some wide receiver pieces there, but they can get better. This is a great place to live, Charlotte. I mean, that's that's a wonderful area of the country, and I think you put it all together, this one makes sense and you get a fresh break from everything and all the all the toxic culture with the Texans and the af C South and the a f C in general, and you just start fresh with an organization that's on the right path. The Panthers one.

Just how about the familiarity you know with the region, you know, going to college there. There's pictures, tech pictures, pictures of Watson in a Panther's jersey with with Cam Newton, an old Cam Newton fan. Um, it's sort of the perfect I think Miami has a little bit of this too, But I think it's the perfect balance of like you

kind of like where the organization's at. But if I was a player, I kind of like that it's a little more low key media wise, And just I think everyone's gonna everyone's gonna be excited about De Shaun Watson wherever he goes. Um, but he can be the king, the King of the Carolinas. How about the chance to work with Joe Brady. Um. I love that you mentioned

David Tepper. I mean, if you're if we would love to know exactly what De Shaun's list are like, this is what the next organization must have, not just the money thing, but if you talk about an owner who's going to engage you and make you part of decision making and um treat you with respect, and a coach you mentioned Dan, I mean it's it's a spicy landing spot and I think the Texans would do it in a second over an a f C team. Robby and Drabby Anderson, d J. Moore and Curtis Samuel all had

over yards this year. Now, I'm not saying they're the three. It's the best wide receiver room in the league, but it also speaks to what Matt Rule can create if Teddy Bridgewater and Matt Rule can do that with those three guys, like look look out for the next five. I think he's gonna want to win right away. I don't think he wants to walk into a deep rebuild necessarily unless it's real attractive for the reasons and the

Panthers could win right away with him. Yeah, I think what you saw with Will Fuller this year definitely something you think about two Because I put Fuller in a similar categories. Of those Carolina receivers are all very good players that pair him with a truly great quarterback, and any of those guys can turn in an all pro level year, which Fuller was on his way to before that. P d B. That's this is the one now that I'm I'm clearly rooting for Deshaun Watson to get out

of the a f C. East. Don't need that, particularly Patriots fan, and and I do like the Panthers quite a bit, and uh, I like this whole thought is kind of fun too, But I like this Panthers temper. You know, temper wants that he's already put a big stamp on this organization since he came in. He's basically cleared out everybody and installing his home vision. You would think the next move, if he could make a this would be like a Kingmaker move to bring in the

year old, year old franchise. And they said they would aggressively go after players like this, the Panthers themselves. So I mean, and he was not to you know, build build off this mythology that's uh centered around this particular owner. But he was known as like this massive shark on Wall Street, and he gets what he wants and he takes big risks, and you know, even rule like he would not let him out of his building. And you know he's known for I'm a guy. I could just

picture it listen this, um. But there are different people that are interested in picking the teams, and I know that why some kind of put the Jets and the Dolphins at his top so that shows his priorities. I mean, supposedly the Jets and the Dolphins are atop of his list. Um. But if I was someone just picking where he would go, now, I'm feeling the Carolina. I'm feeling that as the underdog pick. That's some good value there. What a roller coaster just

hearing Greg, you know, speak this stuff out. I love it. All. Right, here we go, let's keep spinning. Finally New York Jets. Do I want to make this up? No, I'll do it. No, I'm kidding. I would. I would. Hey, look at the last twenty years shown, Look at this uh, look at what this ownership David Mulgata and let me start here. Hey, look at the last twenty years the show. Look at that team. That team needs a hero. You're a hero. You know you're a hero. That's why Swiney said way

back in the day, you're Michael Jordan's New York. Imagine Michael Jordan, New York. Imagine what that'd be like. And don't let's and all these people like those Greg Rosenthal's out there in the media who say, oh, it's the NFL, it doesn't matter what the market is forget about all that. Yeah, he does. He respects you enough to know who you are. Uh, this is everything, this is this is the dream marketing

scenario for you. Um. And you have a situation there and I know you've already told me privately how much you respect Robert Sala and what he would mean to you having a coach that is a motivator of men, someone you respect, and I know you haven't had a lot of that. So we can give you that in New York. We can give you maximize your earnings potential. And yes, you're not afraid to go to a team that needs a lot of work because you feel you are the man to fix everything over there. You'll fix

the Jets. And with their leadership, it's different. It is not what it was a few years ago. Joe Douglas is a guy that is well respected and he's making the right moves right now. And they've changed their structure over there. Uh. In terms of who reports to who, it's Joe Douglass show. He hired his guy and Robert Sala, so you could respect the team builder, the head coach.

The market is wonderful. They have the assets that they could send back to Houston without crippling their future because they are so filled chock full of number one picks. You can get there and be the hero that New York needs. And just imagine, just imagine if you became the next Joe Namath. And I know that's a name that some people your age, it doesn't really connect with, but I know that you're somebody who understands history and what that would mean. Gobs of money, great place to

play the hero of New York City. That's a city that hasn't had a champion in a long time now, it's been a while. You could be that hero. Come come to us. I'm based out in New York City. It's like Sean you you started, you know, you uh just opened this restaurant in Houston, and what better place to open a restaurant it then the East Village. Let's let's do it. Let's get let's get creative. How of Brooklyn whatever the food is gonna be great, You're right.

I mean the NFL players, I think, you know, you can become a superstar like Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes anywhere. Um, but I do think Deshaun Watson in New York would be as big, you know, as big as it gets. They have, you know, the third most cap room right now in the league, so you could pitch that while you're giving up a lot of you know, draft capital, which really shouldn't be Deshaun Watson's concern. Um, They're not stuck in a in a terrible place to to add

talent anyways, and Robert Sali changes everything. I think they had no selling point when we first brought this up, and we had no idea who they'd hire. I just thought they had no selling point for because because like the one thing you'd have to point out is that if ownership is super important, the Jets have really sketchy ownership track record right now. But they do have a GM and a coach that you can buy into mm hm, not a lot of weapons, you know, they have a

lot of roster work to do. But the fact the Jamal Adams trade, as painful as it was, really sets them up well here with the number two pick and then those two picks. So the number two pick means, obviously to the Texans, hey you could if you really want to find your next quarterback, you could have anyone you want in this class that's not um obviously Trevor Lawrence. So if you fall in love with one of these guys, um, Zack Wilson at a b y U justin Fields at

Ohio State, Um, he's there if you want it. You can also take that number two pick and then trade it yourself and flip it for more draft capital for another team that loves it. Uh. And so that's such a powerful pick to have dangled in the trade. And then because of the Adams deal, the Jets could give up number one picks and not put themselves in a situation like Bill O'Brien did to the Texans where they're just barren for years and they don't have a pick

draft after draft. Um in obviously would deplete their what what they've built up in that surplus. But that's to me what this has always been about. When you dealt Adams, it was to have this this cashe picks to make a move, and I think it makes a lot of sense um for the Jets obviously, and Watson if he has the It's kind of like the dice roll for Watson and all this the ones we've brought up before make a lot of sense logically in terms of checking

a lot of boxes. But I feel like this one could have the highest reward if it worked out well. I think the fact that you know, reputable reporters are all saying, um that the Jets are number one says a lot about well, what where Watson's mindset is, where his in his agent's mindset is. And I think it's all about New York, you know, the city. I mean, it can't it can't really be I mean in salad solitude, But I think the New York factor of it all has to be it that he wants to go live there.

He wants to be that guy right or else why why would why would they be a top the list? Otherwise it's got to be New can't know, I can't, I can't buy that. Know. The lure of New York for an athlete, I mean, has made sense forever. And I mean they've talked about Deshaun Watson's hung out in the village. He likes New York and stuff, So I mean, but I but I do. I would separate Dan saying that you think that the highest reward for Deshaun Watson is in New York. I mean the highest reward is

winning Super Bowl. So it's like the only thing I'd say about something like San Francisco. The foundation is there in San Francisco with a coach who's been to a super Bowl. I'm saying, winning the Super Bowls is part of it. But to maximize your branding and to be something of a legend in you know, the biggest city

in the country. I think his I think he thinks, Deshaun Watson that wherever he goes, I have a chance to win the super Bowl because I'm that special and if you surround me with the right town, so then what else can you add to that? But yes, I think the in terms of the odds of getting a super Bowl championship, yeah, with nine. I mean as a fan, being a fan of the New York team that's or a Miami team that's, those are built in advantages to

getting these players. That's something that if you live in Cincinnati, you're not getting those players. So you know, if you logically it would pay off for the Jets, fans and NFL circle. I wanted to know if Cassario cares about

the fact that it's the Jets. I think it's an It's an X factor whether a Easterby and Cassario might have some ill will to the Patriots, who knows, although you know, Bill, yeah, I don't think Cassario would logically, and Bill Belichick, you know, puts this flowery thing out, you know, and about how important Nick Cassario has been. That said, they didn't let them go to the Texans the time before. Cassario ultimately chose easter Be overstaying in

New England. And these trades do come down partly to relationships, uh, and like who you want to trade with. So that's an X factor. No one probably knows except for them on the inside. All Right, I'm gonna spend the wheel two more time. Um, I'm gonna add the Patriots and the Cowboys. So we have Patriots football team, Cowboys Rams Steelers. You guys got that? Okay, here we go the image.

All right, football team. All right, I'll do this one. Okay, So Sean David again in a busy day Um, I've been hearing a lot, you know, from the football team in Washington. They they they're making the cell. They're making the pitch to me, Ron Rivera new era. Look at the success they already have, tough upfront. Um Nation's Capital' gonna do it all. I gotta admit I've heard it all. I'm not into it. I'd say I say we say God. I say God's making the choice. He's look I'm looking

at um. I'm all not. I'm looking at the last twenty years since this ownership came over. I'm looking at some of the things. Even though Ron Rivera's you know, helped turn the ship around a little bit. That that I don't love the way that they brought in Marty Hernie uh and then kind of funagle that, Okay, he's not actually the GM. I want an organization I can trust, and I know I'm supposed to be pitching on it, but this is a relationship. You gotta trust me this, Sean,

and I don't want to. I don't want to put you in a in a tough situation. So I don't care how many draft picks, how much money they're offering. I do not want to go to the Washington football team. That doesn't Yeah, that doesn't get my engine reven as a football fan either. I mean, obviously I want to do it to the Jets, but if he goes to Washington, I don't know. Maybe maybe it would be awesome. I

don't know. But if there's if there's another team out there that would give me some Texans vibes in that, I would be I know, look, I know Ron River is great and all this stuff, but I don't know. I'm not into it. All right, let's spend the wheel again, Greg, Mark, you have anything that to that? No? I think that, Like, why go from the Texans to an even more bizarre thorny or controversy laiden ownerships there? There is the whole attack on you know, the White House and everything that

is safe there, and there's a lot going on. Okay, I don't know about that. All right, here we go with that blank team. Do nothing? I like that? All right? Mark? The Dallas Cowboys America. What's not to love about the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, you grew up a football fan. Um I don't. Well, but that's the whole point, isn't it. That's the whole point because Jerry Jones is an owner

number one beloved by his players. I mean, if anything, if anything in between you and me, Deshaun like his loyalty to some of his players may have been one of his bigger faults. Um. He loves to spend money, big money on all sorts of players. And you know they've got the Dak Prescott situation right now. But I think that this is a really, um pretty seamless incredible

solution to that would keep you in Texas. Um, but think about the switch you have, the organizational switch you'll be making from a Texans team that is not even a little brother to the Cowboys. Just the Texans have essentially never really accomplish anything. You go to the most storied franchise in the league, one that has not won a Super Bowl since Um. But even regardless, guys like Tony Rohmer are revered um all quarterbacks, the Dallas Cowboys quarterback.

I could tell you this, not only would you have a career that where you could win immediate Super Bowls with a team that will always find a way to sign players. And you already are walking into an offense with Ezekiel Elliott and the best wide receiving group in the NFC. If you want to look at it that way, you could be the heir apparent to Troy Aikman, all right, to Roger Stall, back to so many Cowboys greats, and you move right into a Monday night football booth after that.

And I'm telling you right now, this is you changing the history of the NFL forever. I mean, I cannot think of a better pairing. I cannot think of a better pairing than you in a Dallas Cowboys uniform. It's every little boy's dream before they pick a team of their own. It's the one brand that is um worldwide, as big as any sports team out there, and bigger than most any company. This could be you as the

centerpiece of it. And yes, I would be tough as a rookie, but you right now, the Deshaun Watson, we know you could handle it, and you could turn the talas to Dallas Cowboys into a annual super Bowl team. This is the place to go. It's why it's the

last one we're doing. But this is the brand cell that Trump's obviously even the Raiders, and especially a guy that has now played an entire pro career in Texas They're in very different you know, if you know Texas is at all, there's hundreds of miles that separate um Houston from Dallas, which is in North Texas. But still you can't escape the specter of the Cowboys and how huge everything is around Dallas. So I would think that

that would be attractive to him. He would stay somewhat local, and he would have a chance to now be on Still despite the twenty five years about a Super Bowl appearance, Still the team that um A is always on prime time and it always gets the love and be similar to how I was talking about the Jets, like, you could be the guy who goes there and returns the Cowboys to prominence and makes them a champion again. Um

I mean a factor in the playmakers too. Yeah, I don't know if Ezekiel Elliott is part of the future, especially once you have to give Dak. You have to give the money to Deshaun Watson that you're given to DAK. I guess my question to you, Greg, is we all love um Deshaun Watson? Is it that big en upgrade to make the move and get surrender all the draft capital to go from Dak to de Shaun well, maybe you wouldn't have to give as much up. You shouldn't

as another team. If Dak Escot's part of the deal, I love it was still number one or maybe two number ones, right, I don't know da Dack in the number one. Here's the thing, I don't think I love this deal more than any other for Houston because the only way to me that it makes any sense to trade away a player like DeShawn Watson is if you're getting the top ten quarterback back and I'd much rather have Dak Prescott than the number two overall overall picket.

It makes all the sense in the world. That said, these two franchises, I know that there's been a legit sort of rivalry between the ownerships that you know that they they're fighting for the same territory. The Texans fans are trying to get Cowboys fans become Texans fans when they moved to Houston, and um, it's a little it's a little hard to imagine. But from the Houston side, I think it makes more sense than anything. And from the Dallas side, who's always been like slightly more lukewarm

on Dak Prescott than seemingly they should be. It makes a lot of sense to I mean, I love it.

I love it sort of for the NFL. It sends you to the NFC, to which you think the Texans would love like it's just crazy enough to work if the ownership can, you know, get over the fact that you're delivering Dallas Cowboys Deshaun Watson, which I don't know if they could get over that, because even if you do get back doc Um and the fans will be I think somewhat um pleased by if if we have to trade our superstar, we can get one back, and and he's a guy that everyone loves and Dak, but

to keep him in Texas and to make him now the center, he'll be Like we said, fans might revolve. I mean, yeah, you mean you want to send them to Antarctica. I don't think they're gonna do it, even if even with Dac there. Doak is the only thing that makes it even remotely plausible. But the idea of the Texans, who are a little brother in that state, to the Cowboys ever giving him their greatest player ever,

I don't. I just can't say it. So Easterby and Cassario have no link to the Cowboys Texans, but I would think cal McNair would exactly, and he would. I think I think the Textans really do have to think about the impact they're making with their fans over the next fifteen years. If you're getting rid of Watson and Watt, well, you mean start thinking about it, because they haven't clearly

given that a second of thought. I mean they I can't think of a team that more coldly is acting like we don't care about the I'd much rather have Deshaun Watson, but to be Dak Prescott at first and whatever a little more. I think that's it's not crazy. That's how highly you know. I think Dak Prescott should be viewed as a top ten quarterback moving forward. All right, that's good, that's fun. I think we've got seven or eight teams knocked out there. I mean Steelers, you know,

calm down, you're probably not getting them. Steelers the only one I would say, I don't know if you have the capitol, but Deshaun Watson and a Broncos uniform with that offense the way it is, would be um intriguing to me. Although I don't know Deshaun Watson and Pat Schirmer don't feel like, um, they're going to go down in the record books together, so you have to make some tweet they they're them in the lines. Are the teams I think that have the most that are in

position to be super aggressive. But well, what so, Dan, what would you do if? Um, I'm just saying this is not impossible. This is the most second second most capitom in the league and future picks the Patriots easter being Cassario pulling, I mean to a point where pink pony is not even a joke. It's just simply come to is the most annoying thing in the league. I mean, it would number one to be terrible. Number two. I don't stress about it too much because it feels like

Texans again. If you're at all factoring in where your fan base is, that you already feel like you've been losing for a decade plus. This attempt to be Patriots South. And if you then were to send your greatest quarterback ever to the Patriots, I mean, what kind of I mean, what kind of businesses that to do that? But send

him any send him anywhere is bad business. Here's the thing, They've been places that are worse than others, and the Patriots to me, are on that list that it would be it would come off even more poorly than other teams that Mike toml On has that quote like, don't live in your fears, you know. I mean he was kind of living in his fears when he punted on fourth and one from the forty eight. But uh, to me, that's where the Texans have been. They've been living in

their fears. And I really put some stock into this whole a FC thing. I really think that's them living in their fears and they're gonna do whatever they can because they're like just acting out of cowardice almost, and that is going to help these NFC teams that want them. Could could be, could be that way. All right, that's it for the week. No network show this week. We'll be back on what are we doing Monday or Tuesday? Tuesday,

So Tuesday next time you hear from us. Tuesday, we also have um a special Super Bowl week show planned that will connect us with the listeners. Maybe we'll share details that on Tuesday. So I don't have I think we should we should share it now, all right, Ricky, why don't you set the table there? Yes? So we are going to be doing a virtual show, not a live show, so there's only gonna be a limited amount of tickets that are able to go. It's going to be free. It's like a zoom webinar you can log

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So that's cool. So we'll have that show next week, and we'll also have other podcast goodness, including our super Bowl preview show on Thursday, and then of course Sunday night Super Bowl Sunday, the final flagship show of the season where we recap the Big Game. So a lot coming up this week. Thank you everybody who's listened all season long and you know all these years. I love you guys. All right, that's it. Dan handsOn signing off four Quiet Storm the old Boss. There it is again.

This reminds me of every bad club I had to go to in college. Where are we going? Yeah, that's where were going tonight. We're going to bar. Now we're going you know, we're going to Landsdowne go on to club. It's not again. Just you just got through it. You just that was part of that was part of the culture back then. I thought it was fun. Sometimes sometimes you have to be in the right mindset. Depends what happens to you. But I mean, anything could happen. Does

it sounds like the Ladies Night? Yeah, it sounds like I would do disgusting things to be able to get back to Landsdown Street anywhere. Ladies Night, Ladies, drink free, ladies, ladies, ladies. The desperation to get women into clubs and bars by promoters is one of the funniest things, all right, Dan Hanson signing off for quiet Storm, Ricky Hollywood, Ricky Landsdown. I call her quiet Storm and the Great Henry Hotchon until Tuesday