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Graybeards 2023: Best available free agents over 30 years old

Mar 31, 20231 hr 20 min
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A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal and Colleen Wolfe bring you the latest news from around the league, starting with the NFL tabling the conversation about flexing Thursday Night Football games (7:08). The Patriots are reportedly "out" on Lamar Jackson (16:58), we discover a "new" Marc Sessler (18:55), Gregg recaps a busy Falcons offseason (22:16), Ran Carthon called the Derrick Henry trade reports "erroneous" (25:52), and we have a handful of Odds and Ends (33:57). Then, Dan introduces the 2023 Graybeards roster (38:17), hitting every position from quarterback (43:28) to running back (47:20) to wide receiver (51:30) to tight end (54:23) to offensive line (56:22), then flipping over to defense with EDGE (58:03), defensive tackle (59:35), linebacker (1:00:09), cornerback (1:01:05), safety (1:04:05), kicker/punter (1:04:49), and the coaching staff (1:06:01).

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The Around the NFL podcast is only as old as they feel. From the Chris Westling podcast studio, It's around the NFL. I am Dan hansis Room Heroes Everywhere, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, the Great Colleen Wolf. How is everybody? We're great, really good. That's a great zummi drop because it is Graybeards day here on around the NFL, and we're gonna get to it in a little bit breaking down the best remaining free agents age thirty and over, and it's

pretty decent crop. I'm not gonna say it's as good as the team last year, which I predicted would be ten and seven, a pushback of all the Graybeards finish in the end last season as usual, they ended up at four and thirteen. But I had a lot of optimism about the Graybeards last year. This team I'm not as pumped about. I mean, they were better than the Bears in the Texans, so they definitely closed better than the Bears. They were competitive throughout the season. Um And

we'll also go through some news. We had our big atn dinner with a Grave Digger yesterday. Oh yeah, a State of the Union. That was nice. Justin How was that. I know it was long waited and uh, we had a couple of diabolos. Oh yeah, you know, it was nice tequila drink there in Culver City. It was fun. I had a good time with you guys. Feel like we bonded a little more, got close. Felt did you feel like? I had a tremendous, tremendous time And it was a pleasure to have justin there and to talk

to him um ever since. I mean, it sent me into the night and I just feel that I'm on sort of eternal autopilot. Graver and Cessler have complained about lack of sleeping now Grave Diggers, partly because it's paramore. Jessica also was out drinking last night and he just said they didn't get a lot of sleep. So get into that now. Well, I did have her in the middle of our dinner, had to pull out my phone do a quick FaceTime. He's got bits he had. He did this during the dinner. He had did get me.

I bought it. I bought that you were truly gonna face Well. Once we learned that Super Bowl week that you had a five hour FaceTime uh and watched a movie together, I was like, Okay, everything is believable at this point. So but that means you guys are in love? Yes, so good for you? Good for you has a little anxious attachment. Do you guys? Go on? Do you guys have UM like in your neighborhood or I live in

kind of like a small town like a community. Uh? People, do they know that you're like NFL network people like the people into mind you. I've never even met my current neighbors, so I would say no unless I'm being heavily spot I mean twice in the ten year period someone has either seen me running or walking UM and said like NFL network. But that's that's the limit of it. Real They were strangers and the like that happens here and there, but not not in this friendly what about you?

I tried to talk to my neighbors. They don't want anything to do with me. Actually, yesterday I rolled down my window to try and say hello to someone that lives on my street and she just kept walking and I was like, Wow, fine, we won't be friends. I won't have any friends in this neighborhood. Didn't you eat? Because I think this happened to all of us. Story in Corona when you're broadcasting out of like a room in your house, and you realize it's coming right through

the window into the neighbors yard or territory. Weren't you didn't you receive a complaint? Oh? I got a passive aggressive written note left that please asking me to please close the windows when I'm working and broadcasting because my voice carries. And multiple times there would be neighbors that yelled turned down the TV, and then John would yell back, she is the TV. Yeah. So it's like a Bronx high rise in nineteen sixty where in a tight lea

I saw that apartment. It was tightly packed in there. Yeah, and I was hosting Total Access day a weekroom. Why did we just keep doing everything when coronavirus was raging? I think ultimately changed anything. We just did everything from our homes. Well, there was the need for paychecks to continue to floss their way into the budget. I bring it up because, um, yeah, because I'm also like a

very active as you are. Greg. I know a little league dad, so I know a lot of the people, and I've gotten to know the people in the town and they do know I work in NFL Network and one are the lines that I get a lot, and somebody did it, said it to me in my driveway while I had the leaf blower out. The other day, he goes on my yardwork getting my tan and he's like hey, and it could tell he was thinking of something to say. He's like, what am I gonna say?

What are we gonna say? He's like, recovered from the super Bowl yet? And that is like the mote. That's the trope line that everyone says to me, Hey, recover from the super Bowl? Yet, I'm like, well, I think the Statue of lim Aitations is up on that small talk. It's almost April, sir, do you ever get that? You ever get a hey, we're covering from that super Bowl yet? I mean that specifically, live in a community besides me, I'm close even with a number of my neighbors. But

the NFL network thing never come, never came up. Yeah, they don't care about football, or it's never it's never been brought up. Um, all right, that was good, All right, let's uh get to the news. Had one funny experience. I you know, one of the rappers is to Is two Chains, and so I saw him on the sidelines. But one of our games. We had invited him, I guess, And I didn't know why. I didn't know why he was called to change. I didn't know who he was.

And I said, hello, staff, make sure you point them out to me. I want to be respectful. I mean, I don't probably listen to his stuff particularly, but I do want to be respectful and I appreciate his support, you know. So they did, and I said, you know, and I said, I can see why. You know, your nickname is two chains, these big chains around his neck and what have you. So he said to me, well, do you want you know, I mean, we can get some chains for you. I said, I don't. I don't

think about it. I'm not sure that's the right look for me. But the two chains, Arthur Smith, excuse me, Arthur Blank, who is the owner of the Falcons, speaking of two chains, And yeah, you definitely heard the queens in Arthur Blank there when discussing two chains. I think so. And that comes on the heels of Robert Kraft casually name dropping Meek Mill making a push for Lamar Jackson

to England. I kind of can't believe that meek Mill didn't get it over the goal line quite Frankly, I would love to see their text conversations like they're just they're back and forth. What's that rapport? Like? Yeah, I wonder if Robert Kraft is like, do you feel like like when way older people are texting, anything can happen. Like I would even point to go look at Tom Brokaw's tweets and things like that. It's like this was no a newsman at one point, and I'm not. He

cannot put a sentence together on Twitter. So no, all right, let's get into We were talking about some of the rule changes and the proposed rules at the owners meetings this week. There is a there is a push to flex Thursday night football and make games flexible from Sunday to Thursday night. There already is a new rule and effect that now allows teams to play up to two Thursday night football games. But this is an idea of taking the looking of the schedule and then based on

what you know, Let's be honest. Helps Amazon, They're a major corporate partner, and gives Al and Kirk a better game in the booth, especially late in the season. The idea of flexing games to Thursday night and that was tabled by the owners, which means it wasn't shot down, it was just pushed to the side for now, which means there's a chance that this is going to happen on the Giants co owner John mara is one of the more influential figures in the NFL, and he spoke

out adamantly against the idea. I am adam alive posed to that. Flexible scheduling as it is is really inconsiderate to our season ticket holders and to people who will fill our stadiums every week. People have gotten used to going from Sunday afternoon to Sunday night. That doesn't mean that they like it. This year we could be flexed to Monday night, which I think is really inconsiderate to

our ticket holders. But to flex a game back to Thursday night, to me is just abusive, abusive Greggy right there.

I thought about like the history of the NFL and listening to this, because the two most vocal opponents of this rule are John Mary heard there and then the Rooney family with the Steelers, and so many of the NFL's best decisions that they've made over time have been from ownership like that original owners really pushing back what's good in the interest of the league versus owners just

wanting to make money in the short term. I mean, that's why the league is essentially socialist, that they share all the money that the cap it's better for all. That would never happen now. Can you imagine owners sharing all their money with other teams that are making way less money. It would never happen like that now, And I think it's one of the reasons the NFL is so great and they try to keep the long term

interests in the fan in front of mine. And I loved that Maura is standing up and doing this because it is absolutely insane. To imagine a scenario where you're going to New York for a game and you find out fifteen days before it's not that far before, fifteen days before that, actually it's canceled. It's on Thursday night.

Figure it out, and I think, excuse me, absurd, Mara, I think is speaking out of frustration because they only missed this as show, Absolutely do they only miss I knew that was going to happen too, I feel it coming from me. Until now I knew it was gonna happen.

It only fell to votes shy and so I think Mara knows that, you know, behind the scenes, they're gonna find a way to get two people to say yes, because it's it's just inevitable, and it just it made me think randomly of that Corona era Raven Steelers game that happened at three forty Eastern on a Wednesday, and

the quality of that game. For multiple reasons, you know that would be different, but t enough games to me always feel a little tilted, a little strange, a little bit of a lower quality product um And I just think we're moving closer and closer to games happening all week long, all the time, which I know, Greg, you sort of said that was a you were witch casting that at one point I felt years ago, I was

at a different point in my life. I feel differently when I when we started to experience elements of that a couple of years ago, was like, we don't need that, right, so you don't and the players don't. I know, that was just funny, how seriously you said that it was a different man. Then It just was like it was back when I was working at Rhoda World. I started at the two games a day for the whole season.

Theory yeah, but now I need more time. You're in twenty twenty, we did I think I hosted Thursday Night Football on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And I'm so intimately familiar with the games that we've had on Thursdays throughout the years. And the Broncos Colts game from last year still haunts me. That went into overtime, that was so incredibly terrible, and that when they wouldn't

avoid it. That was Week three and like everyone thought that'd be a good game with Russell Wilson and that one you still get stuck with. It was actually so bad that it ended up becoming entertaining. It came back around. It went so far off. But you can't put people out like that. It's so expensive, first of all to attend a game as a fan, and then it's extravagant to travel if you go on the road, you're paying for hotels, you're paying for flights, you're doing all of

this ahead of time. That's so much money that you're putting people out there. People are taking off from work. I mean, it is it just I feel like that has to be a non starter. But obviously if there's it's close, and Roger Goodell was really upset. You can tell he really wants that he didn't. He was upset with the way that Mara talked about it because the light that it painted the NFL. And and to be clear, I just I do want to explain what the rule

would be. It's weeks fourteen through seventeen, okay, um, and Monday Night Football is starting that too next year, by the way, which is a huge change and is, as Mara mentioned, is similarly h abuse to fans. Not it's not as dramatic, but that's still a pretty big difference.

Like if again, if you're flying into a city and you can play more tnfs, by the way, they don't count if it's back to back t NF like so if they if you already had a TNF in week ten and they want to put you on week nine, then you could get up to like three And they absolutely do that with the Cowboys, by the way, who essentially play that TNF after Thanksgiving every year, and that kind of of of course, we want the best games

possible in prime time. I don't I don't want to be doing a two and a half hour pregame show for two terrible teams. But it's just like there's got to be some type of middle ground here, as always in the NFL and life follow the money. I'm sure we'll find that middle ground. I get it, but like, but that's why this is happening, right, absolutely huge deals with ESPN with Amazon might might take his Amazon must not have been happy with what was going on, and

of course not they paid so much money. I mean before when it was on NFL network, the network could eat it, like put their foot down, you know, and they they're just being these games get plucked away, right, Are they second class citizens in this because they're they're paying a pretty penny as we'll still have their protected games, and so I don't know how that rule changes exactly,

but it won't be like the top. I guess what I would say is like, yes, these games aren't great, we still have three sometimes four days of games at that time of year. It's still an NFL game between two NFL teams, and more people will still watch that on a streaming platform than literally any other show that is on television that week. So, like, I get it, it is about the money, But it's like in the answer to when is it enough? I guess is never. But it's like, but that's not a reason people still

watching that Texans Broncos, like they're still watching it. Like just just eat it a little, just like when Mara's talking about and I like seeing an owner talk like this on behalf of the fans, Like the fans that are affected by this season take holders are the diehards or the diehards, and they're just gonna do it. They're gonna swallow it because they care that much. But it doesn't mean you should do it because you can. I don't. Speaking of John Mara, he man, he's a quote machine.

This week at the owner's meetings, he was on the NFL radio on Sirius XM talking about Brian Dable and his big year and his rock star image he has now in New York after leading the Giants to the second round of the playoffs, and he had this a little quotable, Jim, I knew when you were hiring Brian Dable that you knew all you needed to know to hire him. But he's so built for New York. He's so built for the personality of those fans. Like that guy. If you Carcel's had it, but this guy has it

and it's they love his animated routine. Really, Oh, we kid him. I mean right now he's Bono walking around New York City. But I've told him, I said, in this business, it doesn't take long ago from Bono to Bozo. Um, Wow, that was workshop to sink on these podcast. Bosos. Yes, as Bozos ourselves, we can relate to that. Wow, Bozos to Bano. Though for you guys, m depending on your part, yeah,

thank you. We we did some research and that clip where Yes, if you're new to the show, I think it was a sound engineer who wanted to called us bozos and we overheard it. Well. Now, now that was six years ago, in two thousand and seven. You see him frequently. You'll see him floating through the hall, and Greg claims to have had multiple conversation with him. I just had sort of a cheapish interaction. Bozo's line. He likes you know, he likes it's a good running. He

likes Greg. I definitely trust you to have the temperature of what what will make someone uncomfortable or not? For sure, you said you bring up every time you talk to him now, but it's like he I think he worked on gave debut, so I was like, yeah, you did see him, and you know, and yeah, a little bozo talk way. By the way, there were on on the

day Ball front. There were reports that, um, you know, the owners meetings is partially a vacation for these guys and a drinking event and a day drinking event, and that day Ball was the first NFL head coach reportedly to crack a beer at about ten thirty in the morning. Respect Phoenix time. Respect, he's working off East Coast time, walking down, He's walking down the street with shades on.

He's feeling himself. The athletics Jeff Howard reports that the Patriots will not trade Oh Greggy, let's give Greggy some sad violin here. Will not trade for Lamar Jackson this offseason. How said that the Patriots could test Jackson's too desire to link up with an affordable deal because the way he put it, Uh, but it is unlikely that that will be the case, and it will be mc lamore Jones rolling forward. McCord. Look, I'm riding with McCorkle. I've

been higher on him. I think his census. He's just not Lamar Jackson. So that's my whole you know, I think you've wavered on mccorkyll a little bit last. No, I'm seven months. I think I think he can be a plus starter, but he's not Lamar. The only way they would ever get Lamar Jackson is if a report like this came out like four weeks before they actually

got him. That's my So you're not giving up, hope, I'm not giving I can't imagine a world where the Ravens and the Patriots are agreeing on something too just in terms of their history together. But I don't know. Maybe mac Jones turns things around this year with Bill O'Brien, like they do have that former relationship from the couple weeks at Alabama where mac Jones was teaching Bill O'Brien the whole system where he was gone. I think he'll

be good. I think he'll be better. But you wanted to get me excited about life in the NFL as a Patriots fan in twenty twenty three, gave me Lamar Jackson. Yeah. I mean, I think if you if you're in the AFC, it's so top heavy with quarterbacks and mac Jones probably is a bounce back candidate but the idea that like they've gone and got anything other than a middle tier tier signal caller at this point, what is the ceiling for New England? I just I find it to be

an uninspiring era. I like, I like this feisty. You've been absolutely well. That was a low point rampage start with its night what. I don't know if we ever even should talk about it. I don't know if it's a personal thing. Yeah, who didn't see it last night? Well it was. It's not personal, it's not personal. That was something on the books with Justin for a long time. Uh huh, but I don't Can we speak on it the dinner? I don't know what you're discussing, but your um,

your meal, your food. Oh sure, Mark Cessler, drumroll please, I'm so excited about what you're going to say. I don't know what it is. Maybe even a breaking news, Yeah this is It could go either way. He had dinner Mark Edward Cessler for dinner last night at our atn Summit. Had a towering double cheeseburger. What, yeah, let's play some celebration. Let's do something even none of us even noticed when he ordered it. It wasn't until the burger arrived and we're like, well, I didn't do it

for effects. Um. I mean, I you know, I hadn't eating around you guys in a while, but I just was trying to change up my diet a little bit and try some new things. So I will say it might be the reason I was Music is the Night Court, Duane. I think it's appropriate. I like it, so it's in our library and I labeled it as a funky romantic jazz. Yeah, as you said, the mistake maybe some decisions that you made in nineteen ninety seven and haven't really rethought since

you're willing to rethink. Yeah, it's not a day by day thing. I'm just I'm trying it out and it was remarkable and you didn't wake up at midnight wide awake and never went back to sleep. Correct. I do think there is um a link there. I would suggest there's somebody I would imagine because that wasn't just any cheeseburger. No, that had some real girth to it. Yes, it was a double. I mean I think we sort of all got the same, but it was it wasn't really a double.

I mean, there was a lot of it was like it was a big patty. But it was like they call it double because they like have two different types that they smashed. As as a journalist, I must get I must ask how how'd you like it? I liked it a lot? And I think the thing the thing about food that is weird is like I haven't I haven't had that particular dish in a quarter of a century. So wait, that burger with us was the first burger

no I've had. I haven't eaten hamburgers. I've had like other meat, bacon, and I've tried little things that are like I don't some things just do not appeal to me. That at the moment it did, But it was like I had just had one yesterday. It felt that familiar. It wasn't like you forget your taste. Buds seem to never look at you, lose their memory. Who says a man nearing the half century mark can't reinvent himself? That's what I think. Yeah, I don't say that. I don't

none of us should. I guess now I want a burger? Um? Wow, Yeah, I didn't know it was. It was such a big thing, a huge thing. I didn't even know whether we should bring it up. It felt intensely first, I think it's a I'm fine with that you did. It's not a huge deal to me. Huge announcement. Mark A Meady a carnivore. All right, wow, that was That was such a revelation and conversation. Just now we got to take a break, regroup, and we'll be back with more news. All right, here

we go and other news. I know it's hard to recover from that. The Falcons. The Falcons signed Class Campbell, formerly of the Ravens, to a one year deal. Atlanta has been beefing up the defensive side of the ball. He uh, and this a team that cannot get to the quarterback and wasn't very good against the run either. Campbell's thirty seven years old. Connie, everybody loves Class Campbell. I mean there was a time where he was one

of the best defensive players in the league. That's not quite the case anymore, but still obviously capable how to market. Multiple teams were interested. He chooses the Falcons a team and this surprised me because does Class Campbell have a ring? No, no, nope, Falcons probably not winning a ring this year. But ultimately he wanted to go to a place that I guess that he liked. He just went to Lena. Why, I

have an answer for you. He has ninety nine career sacks and just as his personal goal, he wanted to have at least one hundred. Oh, I'm sure he's coming back. I mean yeah, But like he was a cap casualty because of the Lamar Jackson situation in Baltimore, So I think that they probably thought they would be able to bring him back sign him for cheap. But I mean now he gets to get paid probably a little bit more with the Falcons, get that get to that mark

for himself. He's coming off a good season for himself in his standards. And look, he had five and a half sacks last season. That would have been second on the Falcons in twenty twenty two. That would have been first in twenty twenty one. The pass rush is a perennial problem for the Falcons, so they've done a lot of additions to this defense already. They've bring in Jesse Bates, they signed David an Yumata. But it's a nice signing I think for them, and I just love Calais in general.

Super Bowl I had to check because I remembered I thought I covered him on that Cardinals team that made it. It It was his rookie season, so man, he has been in the NFL a long time. I wanted to take this moment to just take a quick look at the Falcon's offseason just because here are the people they've brought in that are probably starting for them. I don't know if there's a team in the NFL who will be starting as many people as they signed in free agency.

Klais Campbell, David an Yamada. You mentioned those, Kaden Ellis the linebacker who had some nice times for the Saints but wasn't really a starter there, Jesse Bates. That's four starters on their defense, Mac Collins and or Scottie Miller. Maybe one of those two guys is right now at least starting at wide receiver. John who Smith is like

the backup tight end, but they might start two tight ends. Man, that is a lot of That is a lot of free agency, and I think that's Terry Fonteno and Arthur Smith knowing like maybe from the outside we're not thinking this is a team that is going to win or needs to win, but I think they know that they need to maybe have a winning record. They have a new defensive coordinator too. Dnp's out the door. Ryan Nielsen

takes over. So there's a lot of change. I mean to me, of all the teams in free agency, they went for it, but not enough because it's like there they stand out. There is the quarterbacks. Lamar Jackson. I've been saying this would have been like suddenly you think completely different about the future of the Falcons and you're trying to fit Desmond Ritter in there as your guy, and it's a TBD. He came down. It came down

to the Jets and the Falcons. He said he thought he would have a chance to have a bigger impact on and off the field. He stressed, Austin, Now you know he's as a Man of the Year. He is for the in Atlanta, widely celebrated, is one of the best dudes in the sport. And yeah he won Man of the Year. He's basically every locker room he goes into, he's the most respective guy. So good for him. I was a little surprised. I was hoping he would land with the Jets, but we'll see what he could do

with the Falcons. Uh In other South Division news. On the other side, Titans general manager Ran Carthon rejects any notion that Derek Henry is on the trade market. Here's what Carthon had to say at the league meeting. There's nothing new to report. Um, it was a nice report that came out. I was moving to Todd you know, Darren trumpers and move and you know we're in a good place. So it's not that new report from there. I know Derek trains like crazy, um in the location

where he trains, I know the location. I don't want to put it out here, you know, but Dar's going to come back. You know, he's going to spend and take his time away into what he has to new to make sure that he's ready to go. So I feel we're in a good place. It was this taken from like the ballroom of a steamship or something. What was where was he one of those one of those little couches in that biltmore? Were there four years a right? And thanks to Toron Davenport at T Davenport underscore NFL

for capturing that. Well done. They should trade Derrick Henry. I think that's there's no way that's not still a possibility if it's like right around the draft and the team decides, like where we're sitting, there's a running back that we want or we don't. I just love the idea of him. I've said it all along to Buffalo. But second note, Ran Carthon looks like a go He's a well built individual, looks like something. I don't know if I had really seen Ran, I think of his father, Maurice.

Was that his father? I don't know, remember him back with the Giants. It's not a typical name, so I'm gonna guess there is a connect, he said. I don't know. That was pretty strong, saying it was an erroneous report. I think maybe maybe there were some teams or there was some talk and they realized that the value wasn't kind of come back and they decided now they they'll probably keep him. And Mike Rabels said he expects Ryan Tannehill to be the Titans QB. He said, of course,

I expect him to be the QB. But he also said, I won't commit to anybody on the entire roster being on the roster after what happened with A. J. Brown, So I guess it's and listening to offers, even if he's not actively calling off they like, so they they're compounding their mistake. You shouldn't have traded AJ Brown, and you did, and now you should trade Derek Henry and you're not going to well then your offense, so you're just blowing up the whole thing. I think it's like,

and then him and running game. How can they have no market though it's got to be a contender is running back that season? Yeah, but you can make a deal and get some draft capital back, but it's like a one year rental. I think I think there maybe, maybe maybe there'd be a team that would actually pay

him that money. But they're just like, I'm not going to give up anything, right, Hey, I would give up a late round swap and ignore that Titans don't want to bother ignore the chance to get Derek Henry with something left in the tank and potentially a chip on the shoulder at your own peril. Is kind of where I come from, the same guy, but man last year

or so. But we need some trades. I was thinking about that looking back at you know, we had those all those wide receiver trades, we had the quarterback moves twenty twenty two off season better than twenty twenty three off season. Step it up. Okay. Ran Carthon, by the way, is indeed the son of Maurice Carthon, who won two Super Bowls with the Giants in the Yes, justin, is there a GM head coach duo you would take in a fight over Vrabel and Ran Carthon? Not not at all.

Maybe Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes. That's the only one that I could think. What is what is Holmes looking like these days? He's a big He's a big, bulky man. I'd like to know what Joe D could bench press. You know, you can't tell. He's a big guy, solid, solid, could handle himself. Yeah, Joe D's looking like he whipped himself into shape too. Based on the footage from the Joe looks like the bouncer, like the double deuce type guy, like he's you know, not gonna win any physique competitions,

but probably is stronger than a bowl. So I think they would have a chance. The Gang Green contingent. But that's a good that's a good conversation. Yeah. Send us on Twitter, people, send us other GM coach like brawl rankings. What I like Mike McDaniel comes out with one of those like member the guy with the green dust and he just spray in someone's face. He was a different way to Rick Model Martel or mister Fujie, mister Fie

assault in the eye. Well, some guy with green dust and it was like the Martel had his own cologne called Arrogance that he would spray into people's mind like a smoke bomb. Would be perfect. How about Bill Belichick it would just be himself since he only hires like friends and family members. But maybe since they don't really have a GM, it gets to be Bill and Steve. I could see Steve with that mullet running into the Travis Kelsey and his brother Jason have a very popular podcast.

It is called The New Heights Podcast and a part of the one of the traditions, and Kyle brand on Good Morning Football does a great job every year breaking down the coach's photo that gets put out each and every year. Check that out. UM, I have it on my Twitter profile. That's one way to access it. Kyle's profile, I'm sure he is amplified it as well, but UM amplified it anyway. The Kelsey brothers, Jason asked Travis to name as many coaches as he could, and it was

a fun exercise. It's even better when you see the image. But it's fun just listening along as well. Here we go, let's give it. Let's give the Travis. Else's trying right now? I can, I can. I'm the worst with names, but I can tell you team. Okay, all right, starting on the left, Chargers standing up, got it, sitting down, standing up, standing up, Chargers, Giants, San Frank is that guy? Steelers?

Can you pause it there a second? McDaniels looks a little different he did even a couple of years ago. So that that there's a there's something there. Okay, keep going. He did not know Arthur Smith's not a surprise. I don't think Arthur Smith's wife might not know. Okay, go on his head. Steelers, Tampa? Is that Tampa? Detroit? Campbell? No chance you're getting this, one zero percent chance? Jet after Jets, nothing. I don't even I've never seen that man. Yeah,

that's that's era I couldn't name. There's some tough shadows. It's a weird photo. Yeah, it's a bad one, but yeah, he had no chance at O'Connell which is funny to me, but ebra Flus. I think if you ask the entire country, Jonathan Gannon might be in there too. It might come in thirty two of guys who have done a year and then the next guy concept And it's funny that um Salah I was like, oh, I thought Salo was taller than I realized. He's next to O'Connell who's eight

feet tall. Right, and Campbell all right ahead? Is so good? I mean three in a row. I have no idea. Those dudes are every everybody between the Jets are off. The coordinator Shane Stik for the Coals, Come on, Travis, Jason's pretty good. Who's who's next to Doug pe Who should know that one? You should definitely know that one. Demko, who's the other one? You should know him because he's arguably your biggest rival. Oh that is yeah, that's Sincy. That's not he's a dope. No one's ever said that

about Zach Taylor. That's that's coach sive or is that enough? I think that's good. Yeah, that's good. He did drop Stefanski was the guy as there's no uh, there's no chance that guy's a coach in the NFL and he's as Fansky, which why is the good one? Seems unfair to Stefanski was out of place calling Mike McCarthy, uh, Dave, Matt Foley Chris Farley's character. I guess he was on S and L recently, so he had it on his mind.

Don't do Zach. He called Sean Payton QB's quarterbacks. It is a little next level And I love that because then you realize not all NFL players are big NFL fans like us. And if him not knowing Sean Payton's name is a little next level quarterbacks quarterback, I would I would love to do the column like Travis Kelsey disrespects the game. Just slaughter him for two thousand words. All right, Connie, ready for some odds and ends? Yo? Sure? Cool?

All right, here we go, no pressure, all right, I have to do it different too, right now, just you know whatever feels it's it's a creative choice. Do it your way, okay, ends it ends everybody. We have to stop this. I think we need to go. The room is haunted, the building is haunted. O my god, how do you how do we recover and do a football podcast? After knowing the world is ending. I just pull a knife out of my pocket. That used to be such

an enduring delight. Right, something has changed, all right, here we go eight o'clock delight. Marvin Jones. He's still at it and he's back with the Detroit Lions. Good for him. Zach Taylor said, contract talks with Joe Burrow are underway. That is huge. That's an interesting subplot considering all the Lamar drama and blah blah blah. The Bengals. Anthony Richardson

meets with the Panthers. He's the number ten ranked prospect by our friend who's on the podcast, though he is not Raiders too, though Raiders would be an interest in Raiders a little. What do they have? Seventh pick? Seventh pick? Uh, Connie. The Kelly Green unis are back with the Eagle. It's about time. So it's not like a color rush thing? Is color rush still thing? Did they get colors? I think that's been but it's an alternate uniform. Yeah, they're

not gonna wear take on that one. I don't have a take. I just think that um. I always hear like the best uniforms of all time are the Eagles Kelly Green uniforms and it's like, yeah, that's correct. I just simply totally disagree. I'm not saying that I think they're still fine, but like that's an over celebration. In my book of play cop, what's some of your top what better? Tell me what's better? New York Giants? Everything? It's better than the Eagles. Wow, that is the New

York Giants have ever done. I'm so offended by it. I mean, not their team last year, the classic Cleveland Browns better than anything that he's back to meet and he's back to the brown No, I'm just I think those are classic uniforms that have not the like Kelly Green or Fine. It's just I think that we're acting like now the world's problems have been solved because they're going to showcase them for a game. We'll see and maybe while we're here. The Eagles chan is a rip

off of the Jets chan. So that's cool too. I mean, what, what, why is everyone coming for me today? What is this speaking of the Jets, the Sacramento to the dinner like we're hitting out ghost us. The Sacramento Kings clinched a playoff spot, which means the New York Jets now have the longest playoff drought of the four major US sports, and that's compounded by the fact that they also haven't been to a Super Bowl in fifty four. That is all going to end this season, though, did your chant

in Part one? Shot up one of the reasons, one of the reasons why Aaron Rodgers going to a team with a very good defense is interesting in a big subplot this year that is brutal. And the crazy thing is the ten years before this twelve year drought, they were kind of in the playoffs semi regularly, and they made it to two title games, and then it got very dark, very quick. It's a little more embarrassing for an NBA team, like every NBA team and NHL team

makes the playoffs a little harder in the NFL. Who's rights behind the Jets? Now for the end the NFL, the Lions have to be well, they've been in the playoffs, but like they're nine in a while, they might be number two now, but they had even that thousand and fourteen maybe well that was two thousand fIF when the Dos caught against the Broncos since they were on the Super Bowl. Really yeah, wow, And the lines are one behind them. I mean it's not like hard to make

the playoffs in the NFL either. Now you're right now it's fourteen. So it's fourteen out of thirty two and come out of sixteen thirty will say it's like it was Cleveland in the Jets for a long time because that Brown Steelers game altered the scenery. Yeah, Broncos posts uper Bowl has been like a sneaky bottom five franchise's been rock sitting and you look at everything that's happened being rough. All right, let's take a break and then get to the gray beards always like Seacrest out we

got m h. Great bits. We're gonna save the day. Great bits, just give us one last say we're here today, gone tomorrow. Will you watch your follow It don't mean I cannot play. You will see me leave the way. Gray bits never go away, Gray bits never fed away. There goes my hero. What your mass? He goes, there goes my hero. It's over, thirdday, Well done, well done, goose bumps. Wow that was the range right there. We now we have a full band. How you were unhappy

with the performance a year ago? Repair I was not here, but like I messed up the role. Um, I was not given clear instruction. I was a backup singer last year, you were, you were assigned to some backing box. I think we, even in real time, started over. We did, and I was very nervous about the second time because I still was unclear on the second go round right and get it. I think this time what we did

was important. We did a run through before the show. Yeah, I will say the run through was not duplicative of what happened when we actually didn't run through a little bit tighter I thought than the actual performance here. But by no means was it a failure. It was good. I think we all felt it in our souls. It's not about you about like um, you know, hitting the perfect feeling the music and Greg and I spoke privately

with Greg Bovis. I said, Greg, the final line is the cathartic payoff of the whole song, and you creatively take that, but it's got to come from your heart. And justin point of ox, I asked it. I asked for some lyrical help. I forgot what the lyrics were and justin what did you point out to me earlier this morning? Well, when you sent me the lyrics this morning,

you had all the gray beards. You were referring to them in the third person, like they never go away, they will the lyrics I had remembered that miss, but the actual lyrics are more first person, as if from the point of view of the gray beards, like give us one right, which I think is really as we age, right, there's a shift. Do you feel more connected to these players? And I certainly do. I find some conflict with um

where you're going here? You said there is an early line we're here today, gone tomorrow, which is you know, that speaks to all of us and the human condition. But then it flips around said, the gray beards never go away. They never fade away. They're the return, they don't go away. I think that's the duality of man there, you know, all right? And then you were aspirational. You also capitalized him, right, which is essentially Jesus. All right.

That's just a religious component to this as well. The original Graveyard Jesus was thirty three, so like he was a roster by the end and probably unstoppable theology podcast Tugbo Sorry God, all right, So what is what is what is this? What is this what are the grave It's really about that song. But then there's a segment we have to do. So this is This is the

tenth year I've done this on NFL dot Com. I've written the Graveyard's column, which is my You'll see it everywhere and it comes out and on other lesser platforms across the web. Um, oh, you're the best remaining free agents? And all right, anybody could do that, but I I like to kind of just dig a little deeper. Who are the best remaining free agents who are age thirty or over? And these are the players that the league

kind of forgets and are ready to phase out. Hence the lyrical and feel of that song, like don't forget about us, Like we are not fading away, give us one more chance. So that's what this is about. And there are every year, with the unstoppable march of time,

always new names to add. And I'll start with the quarterback position because we have a couple of new names, starting with none other than a man that has been waiting to become a graybeard for a long time, really feels like for about five years now, and now he is Carson Wentz. Here's the quarterback room. Okay, and we could talk about where these guys fit in the order they should be in. But my three quarterbacks in this room, he got three. Yeah, I'll probably have a cut I'll

probably have a cut down day in summer. But Teddy Bridgewater from the Graybeards, that's when you know it's time to hang up. I got a Teddy Bridgewater and Carson Wentz in a open camp competition, both thirty years old, both first year eligible to Graybeards. And then I got Joe Flacco in the room. Just got Joe in the room because Joe doesn't want to stop playing and I respect that, and he literally has a grizzled beard at

this point, so he's in there. But it's Wentz v. Bridgewater, and I know where this room is going to come down and say Teddy all the way, And I don't necessarily disagree with that either, But Teddy, there's a reason Teddy's still in the market right now. When he has gotten opportunities in recent years, he hasn't been able to stay on the field, and I wonder if he's just

breaking down. Wentz has just been mostly ineffective. I could use both in this offense if you wanted to I think you've got we're not going to do that plan? All right? But then i'd go Teddy, But have you did you give any consideration to Cam Newton? No? Oh, not just flat out no. I think this is one of the better quarterback rooms the gray Bards had. I mean, you could argue this quarterback room is better than a couple of NFL quarterback rooms. Wow, the Falcon I would

take him over. That's my favorite job. I mean, the Texans they will add. Just just wait till Cam finds out he's not on the gray Beard. It's not going to be pleased with this. Teddy and Carson there. They both have trouble staying healthy. So when one guy goes down, you'll have another guy ready to go. Can I say I don't want to. I want to also say that I don't think Cam is Graybeards eligible. If you out of the league for a full year, um, I don't

know if I could put you on. I think you're kind of out of the football until otherwise we're told that you're I think Teddy. Teddy fits in whence I think good question is like does he want to be a backup? Does he want to be a backup on the Gray Beards. I mean, who knows he's gonna get

an opportunity though, doesn't this one? For some reason, these two guys really hit me with the passage of time, like that they are now eligible for the Gray Beards because we were doing our show when Teddy Bridgewater suffered

that injury. That's a very memorable NFL moment. Were doing our show during Carson Wentz's rise, of course, and like, I remember what a huge Wentz guy West was during that run and everything, and and now he's on the grade season when he scrambled for that touchdown, even the season before though, he was like I could still see the replay of that. And then I remember even after he came back and he was kind of with an

Eagles team that was very mediocre. I remember I liked the way he played like he was kind of being let down by those wide receivers all the time, and he just put his body on the line. And then I wonder if a lot of that also took a toll on him. But here he is, now thirty years old, Nichole's winning the Super Bowl and then having like a statue good room. There's there's another quarterback room for now, they're better than the Colts. Guy would take them over

last year's. Last year's tandem, by the way, was Ryan Fitzpatrick and Gino Smith. Oh that room was better. Talk about Gino going from graybeards back up to how much? How many guaranteed dollars did he get? And Seahawks seed? But yeah, twenty five a year. Matt Ryan, by the way, is available, and I don't know if he wants. We considered Matt, but it's just that's not the direction. Yeah, I feel like we watched fourteen too many Matt Ryan games a year ago. Um, the running back room, it's tough. Um,

it's tough. So I like Jak McKinnon a lot. I mean, the guy had ten touchdowns last year in Kansas City. I think he's a good guy to have. And he was the lead back for most of their season, I mean, or the season went along and then he kind of Isaiah Pachenko kind of rose up. And but McKinnon's a nice guy in there. Um, your friend Mark mark Ingram Uh, he's up there in age two. Um, so I have him on the roster, but I'd like to upgrade if

I could. It's an excellent locker room guy. There's gonna be a lot of malcontents on this roster, There's no no way around it. Yes, Rex Burke had I put on here. That was awesome for you. Mark. I know you like your white running backs, not a guy. You're a white running back guy though, according to you. Wow the star of my high school football team, Rex Burkett.

There you go. And then, um, I actually have to eliminate this guy because if I'm going to eliminate Cam for the same reason I had David Johnson comeback season with the Saints briefly, Okay, so David Johnson's comeback season kind of I thought you might have Latavius Murray list. I'm glad you mentioned it. Okay, so this isn't fit. This is going up on NFL dot com next week, so right now, so give me some tapping with your

your fingernails. Are we getting any bright? Because I want to I want to be a pro personnel director at some point for the Graybeards, maybe an intern. And I write, you're a singer for the I was um dogging that tape, raw dogging it and uh, we don't know. Nope, you just look at the tape. So it was pretty good in the National Football League last year at playing football and running was all right. He looked pretty, he looked almost Uh he was frisky last year. All right. I

met a Latavius McKinnon tandem there. I like that, all right, you know, I was sad as I led to look up Zeke's age and he's like, he's not this okay, and just um because this is always fun. Last year's running back room Jerk McKinnon great signing. Yeah, had ten touchdowns. So the Chiefs that won a Super Bowl. And uh David Johnson, who I was thrilled when he was on the graveyards because that was the first year eligible. And then it just he just ran out of juice. I

guess another passage of time moment. What he at one point in the NFL got a guaranteed contract, I believe with like forty million dollars guaranteed or something insane that happened.

I remember the running backs coach on All or Nothing pulling him into like a training room after his rookie season and saying, like, you have the ability to be one of the best running backs that has ever played in another West favorite I know he was banged up, But did he ever suffer like any catastrophic injury or was just like another example he was, Yes, he did, he did. He never really was the same after it. Well was it a Nate m I think summer tough position,

tough position, wide receiver? All right, for the second straight year, we got O'Dell there. It's kind of where he's at at this point in his career. And by the way, there are reports out there that multiple teams have offers out to O'Dell though, and he's he was initially looking for twenty million. Now the idea is that it might be closer in the range to fifteen million, which is still a lot. What what is going on with it?

I don't believe that. I mean, I believe it'll be an up to but I believe it'll be significantly less than fifteen with some incentive. I mean, he came out on Twitter and totally denied that, but behind the scenes it's probably maybe that was his start nine and six million in incent of something like that. Does he count if he wasn't in the league get all last year technically with your rules out, well, he was injured, it's different. It wasn't out of football. It was injured, right, but good,

that's good. He actually did spend last year on the great Beards, good dynamics. I like that. That's important. For the second straight year. Oh, another first time entry age thirty season, Jarvis Landry. So we can get O'Dell and Jarvis season. Um, it's the beginning of the end of this Browns are for the second straight year. We have Julio Jones here, kind of a legacy pick. I don't know how much juice he has. Can't stay healthy, but he's a great beard, uh for me right now? Um?

And now we have some other options here. Um. Randall Cobb is another option in the slot, but I think he's duplicative with Jarvis. That your guy Aaron Rodgers, Right, that's true. No more drama. T Y Hilton, Oh interesting made a couple of plays when the couple of boys signed it him. I mean, wasn't he was better than some mother huge play like right after he had yeah, third, fourth and thirty one was yeah, not a terrible wide out election. How about Robbie chosen Anderson he changed his

name a locker room headcase. We're not gonna have rob but he's at age thirty. He's the first year And give me a little timpany drum here, because I've been waiting for this. We've all been waiting for this for what feels like fifteen years. For the first time age thirty season. You're not gonna believe this. I think I know it is. Go ahead, Sammy Watkins. Sammy Watkins is finally thirty. What Sammy Watkins who was twenty seven for eight straight years is now thirty three? Time making to

leave candidate. That's shocking. Like a playoff legend that is actually literally a clutch player. Usually people get more respect when you have the kind of clutch moments he had in the playoffs. A lot of big munch Juju Smith Schuster is now brown. Is the guy wide receiver that is twenty seven forever or twenty five forever. Sammy Watkins came into the league at nine years old. I like that group. I'm gonna say it, like, if everyone stays healthy,

that's better than a few rooms in the NFL. I mean, that's that's better than the Titans receiver in group right now. Well, these guys are literally all avail. Yeah, well, you're gonna get every single one. I mean Julio Julio, it feels like he might be at the end of the line here. Kenny Galladay is available, by the way, I don't think you want him, but just wanted them. You're gonna get

four or five primetime games with Odell and this crowd. Actually, now I'm looking at last year because Jarvis turned thirty last November, so he was eligible. So last year we had Odell, Antonio Brown, Jarvis Landry, and Julio Jones Brown sod over very similar positional group Antonio Brown that year. You know, at that point it was like, is he still on the picture? And then I think he like stripped nude in a swimming pool around families, and then it was kind of like, okay, against the code of

policy for Graybeard. He's kind of at a level that there's no coming back nude in the public swimming pool. You know what, I think you owe me a sandwich that talked about that he would not be back in We'll have to check out, Go get my lunch dot org. All right, moving on tight end, this is a tough room to room. I got Cameron Brait, who I believe is looking to retire. Okay, okay, it seems like a liability. Okay, I have Eric Tomlinson in his age thirty campaign. Okay,

and pinch yourself. I have um forty year old Marcedes Lewis. This is to me, he's a graybeard. He is height. The Jets are putting the final touches on a one hundred million dollars deal for him, but if that falls through, I think you're struggling in here to find any playmakers. So why not have a guy who's the sixth tight end. I'm not saying you're putting him on the front of

the the pamphlet or whatever. It's the press guy. It's like it would like it's now the team pamphleteer would like like this, we have this pamphlet of Jewish sports heroes. But I feel like he embodies what you want. He's like the Calais Campbell signer for the Falcon. It's kind of amazing that he was drafted at the same time as MJD. And we've been working with MJD. I don't know, and the MGD was a better draft pick. That was the the sneaky part. He was a much better player

than Marcedes Lewis. During their bag Wars I feel like if you watch Sunday Night Football with MJD as we did this best season. Marcedes Lewis comes up every night capacity as one of the great players of azra H. Mikole Pruitt also in the mix there. That's that's a tough room. It's a tough room. Kyle Rudolph was Tyler Crawford. I like, last time Kyle Rudolph made a play, were you in a while Brady did not get him going. I would maybe go Lewis and Croft, but yeah, it's

I like the offensive line. And by the way, some of this research was done last night after two tequila's um, so there could be some guys that are going to con claim now it's got a coffee that because you were going to work. Well, it's not too for a week. Also, the Organs continue to work shop it and put Daddy's going away next week, so Daddy's gotta write tomorrow, jog through it. This is the best offensive line. I think

the great Beards have everything. It's very good. So I have Donovan Smith on the left side, I got Roger Saffold at left guard. I got Ben Jones at center. I got Greg Van routing a routing at right guard. I got Taylor Luan. I'm kicking him to write tackle and then it's swing tackle to give me some coverage because we got some injury concerns. Got Cam Fleming. Hum, there's Eric Fisher out there. Last year he was on

the team. It didn't work out. So Isaiah Wynn, former first round pick of the Fan, was a consideration as well. About Jason Peters has the veteran in a many years, he was a gray beard, but we've moved forward to Jason Wow. Although he's like he is a great gray beard because they keep rolling him out there like halfway through the season. It's just like, oh, yeah, he's fine. I just got bored of putting Jason Peters on this list,

so I get it. We're just moving. I take it back now that I realized I had three players that were like twenty seven on my original list. There's a lot of Titans on this line. Right. Three is that? By my count? Gabe Jackson I believe is thirty. Um, he's played a lot of football, was making a lot of money for the Seahawks. I think I think he could put him in there over Van Roten. All right, let's do that strong about him. Dennis Kelly is a solid swing tackle guy who was also a former Titan.

He's out there just use last year's Titans line. Yeah yeah, trying to please resigned the worst offensive line in the league. Luano gives you like the podcast pop and yeah, but no, I like that. I like that. And he hasn't retired or anything. So he's up in the air. He's with us. He's feeling good. He's feeling good. He's got some juice back in that knee, as he said, a wall kind of juice, but it's in the knee defense edge rusher. Welcome Jadeveon Clowney. I'm sure I'm going to enjoy having

you around. H We also have Leonard Floyd. We got some good this is we. We've had Evan Silvall in the past. I gave Evan a blow this year because sorry, I feel like, go ahead hit it again. That sounds kind of like a porn because you know, Evan I is this very serious football man and I just was giving him. It's given him a break in twenty three, and we're gonna bring him back in twenty four if he wants to join us. Um but I he has

pointed out last year. He's like, oh yeah, you just get these like rotational veteran pass rushes and you could do make some damage here. So I got Clowney, Leonard Floyd, Melvin Ingram, the third, Frank Clark, Bud Dupree. That's a that's a solid group. Group great might be overstated. Did you mention mel Ingram? Yep, justin Houston. Yeah, he was cut. He didn't make it. Wow, Marcus Golden, unless you think he should be ahead of dun had some moments, least

I would. He he has been excellent for the Ravens and then no one signs him until about August. He's not gonna make the Hall of Fame, but he's like the Hall of very Good and yet no, he just he's like the new and Dominican Sue. He signs for like four million dollars every August and ends up playing. Really, if you added Carlos Dunlop, you could have literally every player that I went to Italy and Germany went with on this roster. Let me make that adjustment right now.

But Dunlop actually continues to be a good player. No, he doesn't make it, but that's cool um interior line. Here we go matt Ionidas Shelby, Harris Mark wood A se A, Keem Hicks and yes and Dominican Sue always available this time of year for the Graybeards. I felt like maybe that was Sue's last time around last year. Just felt like it was demisioned gen Richards. How old is Ashan Robinson? I think he may quality? Oh he

does not. He was a guy that I know, our friend Jordan Rique thought he was going to get eight to ten million dollars and clearly didn't. It is still a free agent, but it's a good ball player. But he's not old enough. In my bad linebacker is a little bit tricky. Um got Denzel Perryman, Marcus he's now signed. Oh he's out? Okay, thank you checks and balances, Marcus Golden, Anthony Barr, Kyle van Noy, John Bostick. You're this is where the team weirdly starts to fall apart. Good line play,

but bad uh linebackers. Anthony Anthony Barr feels like a like a great beard. All right after that? I have a good secondary? Is there another inside linebacker to add to this? I couldn't believe that Kwon Alexander is a sneaky Sammy Watkins All Star. He's twenty nine years old. If it's before February thirteenth or so, we're desperation. In your voice, we need a little inside help here. When when he said that, um, I was telling a J. Klein is a guy who's played football. He will be

twenty nine at the end of the season. Quan ar trouble. Okay, cornerback. We always have trouble at cornerback. Obviously, speed is an issue against faster teams. Uh, Marcus Peters, Marcus Peters. Uh, let me just check the twenty twenty two team, by the way, tight end. Last year, I had Gronk who never actually signed with the team, and Jared Cook. M that's a good that's a good room. Where Jared Cook now was he he's a free agent again in my mind for some reason, he's just always a saint forever.

And so wait, you had the services of Gronk in this theoretical Yeah, he plays beards. You don't want him to sign this year. He's not in the mix. He's been out of the league for a year now. You put Gronk's a good guy to put on the cover. I guess you're putting O, b J and uh and on the cover of the of the Pain. It's just a giant face shot of Carson Wentz like they do the Love where he looks sweaty with the eyeball back on. We all know, yeah, something really go ahead and start

to take command. We want to recreate that energy that the commanders you have to do. I feel like you should do more of like uh, I know they traditionally play in San Diego, but maybe they could do a year in Baton Rouge and you just do like a fourth sort of LSU theme with ob J and Jarvis Landry and just get the locals to come out. I mean, I feel like we just did that high school. I'm just saying. It's kind of like the USFL. It's like they just pick a different place, it seems like, and

they just stay there. All right. Just Brandon, you're a singer, Okay, let's just stay in earline singer. All right. My tackles last year, by the way, I Dwayne Brown on the left side, um, and then Quentin Spahn Spain yea Spain. Uh, Matt Paradise, where's not playing for Daryl Williams and Eric Fisher. That was last year. UM. Last year on the edge, I had Melvin Ingram, Justin Houston, Jerry Hughes and Jpp. That group was better than some groups in the NFL.

That was a good group. UM last year I had on the interior a Chem Hicks, Claias Campbell, Lynvaal, Joseph and Sue She's always there. The Eagles were like looking for help in the middle of the season. In the front office was like, forget the analytics, let's look at the great exactly signed two of these guys. Linebacker, I had A j Johnson, Danta Higtower who recently retired, and Anthony Barr. And now we'll move to this year's cornerback group.

Marcus Peters, Bryce Callahan. Where's Logan Ryan Att He's a safety, but I think he could definitely be in that groups. Kick him out of there. Byron Jones, William Jackson. I think Byron Jones like said he can barely yeah, walk, that's a problem. Hill. I mean he I was hoping. I wasn't. Don't say walk yeah, I'm not trying to make light, but it seemed like banging his career might be over unfortunate. I'm gonna put it in a nice

gonna put three question marks next to Byron Jones. Maybe can't walk, okay, Um, we might have to replace him. Safety Adrian Amos, Oh yeah, Rodney McLoyd, Cloud Cloud, Dron Harmon and Logan Ryan. That's a good group. And Logan Ryan. Um, you know family famously was going to that dog shelter with Tom Brady everywhere. That could be a little bit of Instagram pop for you guys. Good for the community outreach. I like the cornerback group. Actually, I'm gonna propose Peters,

William Jackson and Anthony Brown and Callahan. That's a four pack right there, if you need four. That's not bad coming off an injury Anthony Brown, but it was a good player. I'm trying to see if Jamal Adams will be safety eligible for me next year. No, but he's turning twenty eight. Got some time, all right? Hey, kickers, kicker and punter. I got two forty year olds. You have a great kicker Robbie gould Boom and punter Andy Lee two forty year olds, will you? I mean, so,

how does that work with the Kickers club? Is there like a Legacy wing. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, there's tapioca served and you know, the bedtimes very early. It just doesn't get like, uh in the Graybeard's wing of the club. It's it's what Mark hates most in the world world grown men drinking milk as opposed to you enjoy that, No, but for seven who knows anymore? I was having expecting Mark to order a big pint of milk. The milk yesterday at dinner with the burger that does

not appeal for some reason. We spend five minutes last night and Mark's hate of a grown adults that drink milk. No, just grown men for women. Yeah, I'm not really, It's not something I think about a lot. But like the idea of like dad's drinking full glasses of milk is weird to me. Was like just a large segment of the population. I feel like he's he's hitting out at a very I mean, I have witnessed examples and it

just through me in the wrong direction. Um, head coach, al right, head coaches and staff have to be fifty and over for the second straight year. Mike Zimmer is my head coach. Oh okay, why who do you guys want I'm open to suggestion. I want of a son of a bum. I want Wade Phillips, who's killing coach. He's killing it in the XFL. He puts the gray in Graybeard. I don't know if his hair is actually gray. But how old is Wade Phillips right now? And at

no point has he ever not coached well? The last time he was in the NFL he was doing well. Seventy five. He's seventy five. I think this is a good team to bring, like Jerry Glanville back into with the public amerry yet with us. Spoke to him a couple of years ago and him could not have been more of a live wire. So I just think, like this team, you wanted to spice him up a little bit. I don't know if Mike Zimmer's that guy. Zimmer is a little bit like of a disciplinarian. I feel like

these guys, Yeah, it might not vibe. Wade feels like good vibes. I feel like Mike Zimmer deserves he see, but he'll so fits the profile of what I'm looking for. Just a mean old man. Okay, Wade's a nice guy. I could make him the DC. I mean at least the DC, but I mean, all right, so the OC, I have Greg roman Um fifty years old, so he's he's eligible for the first time, but he doesn't have a job. I didn't defensive coordinator. I have Rex Ryan actually,

who expressed interest in joining the Broncos staff. So he's his heart I think is in it, and he's got to be probably in the sixties now right around there. Uh. And then the special teams coach. We're actually keeping the chair empty until Mike west Off comes back from Denver, so that's out of it's gonna do it. It doesn't matter. Just whatever Westuff would have done is kind of their guiding principle, like we're gonna have a giant Mike west

Off signed in the practice bubble. It just says, do your job with a mean old Mike west your kicker and punter a combined eighty years old. So they seem to they'll have some internal knowledge. Uh. I'm looking up, wait is four and two right now as the head coach of the Roughnecks six seven percent. I'm looking at trying because I wanted a defensive numbers um the XFLS you know stats page first time I've been here. Admittedly, Uh,

they could go a little more. They've got like fur, They've got like four stats, not including like points allowed or anything. The mail bad question we didn't get to it last week, was like why are you guys not talking about the other leagues? Are you not allowed? It's like, like, you mean the XFL and the other thing. It's not it's not personal or anything. It just it does not interest me. It's too much at all. I spring football as a concept has nothing to do with me working

for NFL. It just does not interest me. That's when I watch the NBA and I watch baseball and we talk NFL news. I don't need more leagues. I couldn't agree to any higher percentage with what you just say. And I might have felt differently maybe at different points in my life or we didn't have this job, or when you wanted there to be two football games a day every day of the year. Yeah, or like in another yeah, in another timeline where I've got hot dog

fingers or something. But like we're I feel like we're still watching football, we're preparing for the drafting, the like, we're still doing some NFL watching in the off season. That's there's only so much bandwidth here. That's all I need. I got the Miami say that against tonight, you know, but jes let's go um and remember our team model remains unchanged just when sometimes baby, what do we think? How many wins this year? Five? I'll take I'll take

five and twelve. That's progress from from a year ago. I think they say it for four and thirteen. Yeah, really, what's what's killing us? Ultimately, I'm gonna take the defense. I think I'm gonna take what west traditional role is, and I'm gonna say one in sixteen. Yes, every year he would like talk it up that like, well, you know you're looking better this year and then you go one and sixty. Yeah, real future they have. I can't

wait until the first one in sixteen. T even the NFL that that's almost more embarrassing than oh, in seventeen, you couldn't even do that, right, No, Yeah, but last year I thought my team was going to go ten and seven. I honestly think if I'm now going through it again, this is a five and twelve unit. Okay, dun you announced that publicly on the in your article. Yes, that's how I'll end it. Tough for the pamphletier to go into the season with someone else that can write this.

Do we have someone else? I could listen to this past for them? Good stuff anyway. Yes, the other thing where someone just transcribes the podcast, because there have been I don't know if it's still an NFL dot com writer, but there it was absolutely an NFL dot com writer who worked in a public medium and would have his show transcribed and then that would just be an article. You outsourcing this on the pod is truly? Is that

could we do? Could we just throw in this roster and then put my name in and maybe and just chatbot it? Wow? I think it's a great exploration. Why see what happened? I haven't tried that yet, but is that? Is that how it works? I'm not really sure the

tech I feel you didn't fire up the chatbot. I don't know, because Elon Musk was part of a group that sent out like an open letter yesterday begging people to stop developing the chat GPT whatever it is program because he's afraid that, hey, I will take over civilization and humanity. That's good, just don't take away my blue check mark. Start there. I think that's happening soon or it already happened. All right, there you go. Those are

the graybeards, the baton rouge graybeards. So what you said, I think switch We're just going to rip another team from San Diego because Greg went to College of Julane Palm Beach would be bad. You got snowbirds them they're wearing you like, put them in the cash money. I don't know. You could just really play into the baton rouge of it all. And they're a football mad state. San Diego fell in love with the team though. Okay, we want to do that for Lauderdale. That's where a

door Lean lives exactly. All right, good one, good show. We'll be back next week. I will not be back next week. I will be on vacation. But we have um, Greg and the Gang on Monday, and then I go on vacation after that, and then Greg goes on vacation and then the show everyone's excited for Cesslermania. Are you going to be in the host chair? Yeah, I'm not going to change physical seats. I'm going to stay right here because maybe this is the host chair that day.

Can I get unsolicited advice? The reason I am in this chair. It is known in the industry. I know you think I came up with this name, but it's an industry term. It's the power chair. It allows you to have direct eye contact with your producer. Now you have to turn to make eye contact with your producer when you are leading the show and driving the conversation. You're gonna want to have that right Justin, How how

vital is it in our conversation? Oh yeah, most of the time, when like a drop's coming up, or a segment or a bit we're doing, it's like I look at your eyes and I know when to hit. Now, I'll move out of the way. I won't say another word. What you're gonna learn is that come that episode, all these rules that have been dropped on our society simply do not exist will be Colleen will be part of it. I'm looking forward to the to the chaos, actually embrace it.

From my experience doing the Monday Night thing, where I would sit there, Um, maybe you're spacey like me, Maybe you're not. I don't think I looked at Justin once in the forty minutes, or I would forget to look at the things he was sending me. On the computer because I just sort of got into my own world like I would do in any chair, So it didn't have a big impact. Very different takes. I would consider

your advice. I think Dan makes a good point, but it didn't end up impacting me because I'm just too spacey and I'll move out of the way again. We'll be just I'm gonna move back in the way, just to say, how about Thursday. It's the Chaos Cast and now I'm gonna move out of the way. I think that's essentially it will be out of the way. I have nothing to do with the episode that I'm not gonna do what everybody thinks I'm gonna do. All right, all right, before we go, this has not been a

great week here at NFL Media. We have lost some colleagues to some cutbacks and other you know things going on behind the scenes right now. Jim Trotter, who's a guy that we all have a ton of respect for, no longer with the company. Mike Giardi, who's been on the show and is a great reporter and an awesome guy, is moving on. And also, as people know by now, Rachel Bannetta, whom I have so much respect and fondness for as a person and as a professional. I know

you guys feel the same way. And she has been a great part of this show and just the brief time she was here and became a really good friend to all of us, and she's going to continue to kill it. But I think we all wanted to talk about and just at least reference it because it is something that has been kind of weighing on the whole media group and for us and Rachel especially that that won't hurt. Yeah, I think like Jim and Mike were absolutely excellent what they did, and you just can't replace

their personalities and their value. And someone like Rachel. I always found her fascinating to work with and get to know because she was an atypical fit for NFL media

in all the right ways. Like and I think sometimes media houses don't know what to do with someone when they're totally original, creative, throwing you for loops with their humor, doing stuff on social that was completely unhinged and enjoyable, and just doing stuff that there was only one Rachel Bonetta And so wherever she goes, she'll be she'll fill that role again very well. And so I mean it's like I'm almost like it's just excited to see what she does. I hate that. I think my favorite part

about this job is the people. I've met. So many of my greatest friends here at NFL Media. You guys were my first ever friends when I moved here to Los Angeles, and so I hate losing anyone at any point. And I know it's going to happen because that's just

the nature of this industry especially, but it does. Really, you know, once you get close to people, and Jim Trotter, Mike Giardi and Bonetta, I've had a chance to kind of, you know, have these nice relationships with them, and especially Banetta, I've gotten really close with her. I think the world of her. We spend a ton of time together in Munich and it was just she's so creative, so talented, and just such a cool, down to earth, amazing, genuine person that I'm lucky enough to say is one of

my good friends. So she's going to go on and do great. Yeah, total gem of a human, like a capital T talent where she could be a host. She was a great host on Game Debut and really brought that show together and was really fun doing it. And I was just thinking, like it seemed like she she

made a big impact in this place. And I was thinking back to when I first met her, and it was like a week before the season or a couple of weeks before the season started, just a year and a half ago for the twenty twenty one season, you know, to meet and meet the new game debut crew, and like, we had a lot of good times. A Friday Fun show is awesome and I'll always remember her coming up

on stage with us in London. So it's like that as a great memory to having our Backpock not going anywhere, we'll be watching her on TV doing who knows what. And it was like a packed house in London, and we didn't even give her much like direction. We just said we're gonna put up some various figures on the screen and then just be Rachel. And the crowd loved her, and we love Rachel and uh and maybe who knows,

we'll cross pass down the line. But I'd love to everything you guys said too, because I worked with her obviously closely producing Benched for over a year and yeah, extremely creative person and I will miss working with her. We did not get better um hope to see her again soon. All right, now that's it. We'll be back next week, not all of us, and then after that

week we'll all be back together. Recharge those batteries crossed, yes, fingers crossed, this right Jesus right till then he's the call, Great Bear. We're gonna see Great Bew. Just give us one last hip. We're here today, gone tomorrow. Will you watch? Youall follow it? Don't mean I cannot play. You will see me the way grave bits never away, you play, bits never been away? The girls, My hero, what's your ms? He goes there, ghost, my hero. It's over. Third day,

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