Be Around the NFL Podcast is really stretching this offseason context. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansa's name. Joining the room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley, and Greg Rosen thought, what is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? It is officially we are one hundred days away from NFL one hundred. The kickoff of the nineteen season is one hundred days away.
How about that? Exactly as we tape, as we tape on Tuesday afternoon, we are well, now, we'd be in the middle, we'd be at the edge of the first games of the morning. Here in l A. It's one twelve pm and feering into the second games, right, but from a day's I'm not saying to the hour or to the minute. I am one hundred days away. Well, this is our time. This is the best time of year. Let's be real about it. Memorial Day weekend is a nice part of it. We had West's wedding and it's
still continuing until about you know, training camp. So this is this is the time. So you can Matt money Smith can eat it with his uh, his little start. In terms of stretching content, this is time of the year to stretch your legs, enjoy our families and friends. Let's continue verbally assault people who have been working for free for almost seven years on this show. Um, speaking of spending time with family, I was at Lego Land,
a very nice family west. Since you know you're on the plan, you're on the May plan, which means engaged in May, married and May kid one and May and kid kid two and May. You're gonna become familiar with Lego Land in about four years or so, and it was quite nice. I enjoyed it. I also enjoyed Um getting a bunch of mentions about being a shirtless firefighter. And I don't know all the context yet. I have not dug into Friday's show, but it sounds like it
was a fun time with Steve Weisch. But Um, that was surprising. I think you were celebrated. Would would that be fair? Absolutely, you're You're a focal part of Mark Sessler's guided meditation sixty seconds Only. It was a nice little interlude that relaxed everyone or aroused the others. A certain population of the audience. No deeds of your own, Dan, I now think of you as a much more manly presence because of Mark's guided meditation. Well that sounds good.
Part of me doesn't even want to check. It is a little bit of a mystery to you. Pretty much, you pretty much you know you could probably fill in the story at this point. Um, all right, coming up on today's show, Um, we're gonna hit the news, including um, the death of one of the great players in NFL history. So we'll get to that. And also, genies are hot right now. I mean there's no way around it. There's no two ways around it. Everyone's talking about people are
buzzing about geniees. We're living in the age of the genie signs. Aladdin, Greg, I know you love that website box office mojo dot com. I just, uh, well, I went with box Off as guru Darren Ride. It was just to check what Aladdin did for the weekend. Yeah, well it cast out over one million over Memorial Day weekend. So genies are hot and there's no way around it. So we're gonna lean into that, and that's a good way to grow listenership and also just be part of
the zices. You want to be part of the national Uh conversation. Is that a sitar that that's some Arabian music, right, feels like the Aladdin though, I mean it did monster business, mixed reviews, a lot of people away around it, whining about it, but kind of like how Big Bang Theory gets higher ratings than Game of Thrones, yet like no one really talks about I mean even this season with Game you know, you know, but no one really talks about it. I feel like Aladdin, it's not on the
tip of a lot of people's tongues that I know. Well, I mean it was. It was to your lashed by critics, which I've not seen the film, so I don't know why, but they were. They found it to be wanting so so within the box office proof. With that in mind, uh, we will put on our Genie hats. I don't want to say something culturally insensitive, so I'm just gonna call it a Genie hat. I don't really know the background of Genie's in a big picture. I don't know what.
I never saw a Laddin the cartoon or this live action film. So the Genie hat you put it on, he's got the feather on it and the jewel. Am I doing? Okay? I've never seen a Laddin. Ricky this was your generation, right, Aladdin? How could you guys not have seen a Laddin was? Now? Aladdin is our generation. That's how old. I never saw any Disney movies almost they saw like one or two and then it was like, whoever you people? It was like, what do we need?
Why would I be wanting? But he's never seen any Disney movie that I'm saying my mom my mom took me to like Beauty and the Beast or something when I'm seven. I was like, I don't need to see any more of these and that it was like, now that's anymore. That's classic bourn Age thirty two. Because everyone knows that Beauty and the Beast came out ninety two. Greg's just making up stuff saying he was seven that would have been like what whatever. The first Disney probably
was not Beating the Beast. It was well it might have been. Yeah, I think that was it, but it was one when I was like eight or nine, and it was like that once was enough. I was trying to get out of there. Half it was nice. I like the Mermaid alright. Anyway, what I was trying to say was that we're gonna put on those hats and um, and then we're going to grant a wish to NFL team. So we're gonna go around the horn a couple of times, maybe three times, try to hit a bunch of teams
and give a wish. That will grant a wish. That's that's the correct way to put it. That will aid a team immeasurably in and perhaps beyond. All Right, there you go, let's do some news think. Ah. Yes, Bart's Star, his famous quarterback sneak in the Ice Bowl. Um Star passed away on Sunday in Birmingham, Alabama, at eighty five years old. Uh one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, of course, part of the holy Trinity of Green Bay
quarterbacks Star Farv Rogers. While it all started UH with Star, who won an unprecedented five NFL championships as the Packers starter UH in sixty six sixty seven and was known, in addition to being the leader of that team in the quarterback but one of the great playoff players of all time, the guy that, in addition just being Um the field general, stepped up to play in January when
it mattered most. And that's how legends are made. And that's what Bart Star was He had suffered a number of health setbacks over the years, including strokes that had severely limited his ability to communicate. Peter King wrote about it in his column on Monday. Uh the effort just to say a simple sentence late in his life became a great challenge. So Start dealt with a lot of challenges late in his life. But he will be remembered. Uh as a packer is great and one of the
more important players. Chris Wesley and the history of the National Football League. I think a lot of people think of Vince Vince Lombardi is the greatest football coach of all time, and some people consider him the greatest American coach in any sport of all time. Bart Starr was an extension of him on the field. And this is a time for our younger listeners. Are those new to the game. In the nineties sixties, quarterbacks called their own plays.
With the exception of Paul Brown's quarterbacks. Listen up, Temposy. He could learn something here. Bart Star called his own plays. And I remember reading a book called One More July by George Plimpton and Bill Curry, and they were talking about coming up with the perfect quarterback of the nineteen sixties based on composite traits, and a lot of it is Uniteds like Uniteds toughness, his accuracy. But the one area I think where they talked about you would want
bart Stars game management, strategy and play calling. He was calling his own plays. He looked across the line of scrimmage, diagnosed defenses in the same way that Peyton Manning Tom Brady have done in this generation, and he was the best at it. So I think that to me. You know about his playoff record, you know about the five championships, the quarterback of arguably the greatest dynasty in the twentieth century,
and um, I think that that's his legacy. Well, and he first of all, he won three straight, so he has the five titles. Because a lot of times when they show, Okay, Brady's got six and they show Super Bowls, it always kind of bothers me because it's like, well, you know, bart Star kind of gets job there because just because it's not the one of the first two Super Bowl MVPs, first of all, which is you know,
that's no one's ever gonna do something like that. He's the only person who have won three straight as a quarterback. You know, Tom Brady hasn't been able to do that. But I think what stands out with him is that, like Lombardi wouldn't have gotten to Lombardi without bart Star. You know, he was a backup, he had gotten benched at one point, but at some point they were starting
to role teams offensively. There was a big championship game against the Browns where it was expected to be like this Titanic battle of the two best teams, and they rolled them up fifty five to seven. Bart Stars, throwing passes all up and down the field. I I kind of went into, you know when I first started in football, thinking the same thing, that he's just kind of this game manager that got carried along by the team around him.
But it really wasn't like that. You mentioned that the Lombardi needed Star and starting Lombardi could say the same thing with Belichick. It's a conversation we have today about who's more important. And this is to me one stat that stands out in terms of all time dominant stretches, and yes we're witnessing one right now in a never ending fashion in New England. But from nineteen to sixties, seven Star went eighteen and four as a starter in the regular season and nine and oh in the playoffs.
They defined the sixties football. I also think like he played till age thirty seven, which you think back then, oh, no quarterback obviously could farewell, which there were a handful of guys that played way longer than most thought. And he played his last three plus seasons as almost a favorite of the Packers, per stories, because he wanted to retire and they didn't have the proper quarterback to hand the team off too, So who would do that today?
Hang around for nearly half a decade longer to do the Green Bay Packers a favor. There's this other great story where a fan basically wrote him and said, you know, after one of the many infrequent failures they had they were so easy to watch, that he was running out and that he was done with the Packers. This fan and Bart Starr wrote him, and he said, we are sorry to lose you as a fan, of course, but what is sadder is the example you were setting for
your own sons. I hope while you redirect their young minds in the future, you will include tolerance so that when you occasionally air or unintentionally disappoint them. They will not lose their faith in you dropping a bomb on someone through the US Mail. I Only the other thing is around the time and I know West and are so much older than you, Stube. It's like when we
would start watching football in the decades. Every Sunday they would drop on you flips of the Ice Bowl clips of bart Star and to us, and when you're growing up, you look back and you think that those guys must have toiled fifties, sixties, seventy years ago because it's grainy black and white footage, But the space between that time and when the clip they were showing, it's no different than watching rookie year highlights of Tom Brady at this point,
meaning we are very old, but that ancient time really was not as far as a way as we think in Bart Star was a pivotal foundational member of the NFL we watched today in a million ways. Coach for nine seasons two and had a really rough record that would that would never happen and in the NFL now that he almost had no win winning seasons that didn't go well because he was always almost they said he was afraid to criticize, but like one of his famous
moments as a players essentially told Lombardi stopped. You know, he confronted him stop kind of taking me down in front of the team, that he thought it was bad for the team. No one had really stood up as much to Lombardi before and that was kind of when he became the guy well united. His famous quote is, you don't become a quarterback until you can tell your coach to go to hill. Yeah, there you go. Bart
Star dead at the age of five. Moving on to modern NFL talk will start on the Throne of Sleeves, where the New England Patriots, of course, are moving on or seeking to move on from the Rob Gronkowski era. Part of that was bringing Ben Watson out of retirement. Uh. But there's a little bit of a snag there because Watson revealed in a Facebook post on Sunday that he
failed a drug test administered in March. And there's a little more to this story, uh than usual when these things pop up, because Watson was very open about it. He owned it. He said, hey, listen, I retired thirty eight. I was done. I went to a doctor. I was all banged up. Because these guys, their bodies just get brutalized, and I was administered or prescribed a medication that would make me feel better and make me heal up, and
in a more speedy fashion. It happens to be what that was bio identical testosterone spinnate, which West takes uh every day. Um that that explains the body to make sense. That falls under the NFL's banned substances list. So when the Patriots brought him out of retirement, Watson didn't even realize at first, and then bang he gets hit h with the positive test which triggers the four game band uh so again. And we talked about this. I feel like on this podcast, we're all mock step that the
idea of performing performance enhancing drugs. There's a difference between when a guy like Dan Jordan gets popped what was the famous uh it looked like his shoulders were inflated, Yeah, blown up, and what happens with these players because their their bodies take such a beating. They just trying to get better. And Watson was not trying to beat the system or anything like that. He's just trying to get better. In general, I would think that they should loosen up
some of these things. Just to let the players heal and let modern medicine do what modern medicine can do. But Watson out four games, but he'll be back, And the Patriots built into the contract uh potential escalators to recover the loss of money. They knew, they knew, So he found out he had already decided he wouldn't come back, or he was open to it. But then he found out literally that week as he was talking to teams,
primarily the Patriots, that this was gonna happen. So they knew it before they signed him, and they decided to sign him. Anyways, maybe not the worst thing in the world for a thirty eight year old guy to play twelve twelve games. It does kind of point out, though, like how crazy that, like doctor, you know, how crazy a spot at his for players and the league that like it's good for his body. You know, doctors prescribed what the NFL counts as p ds all the time.
At this point, you know, test out, you know that it was like good for him to recover, and yet it's something you can't take on. The cloudiness that must be draped over any time anyone goes into a doctor post career or even during a career and has recommended something whose job is it to safety check all the ingredients and find out if you're gonna get banged with a He said he didn't even think about it because
he thought he was retired. I will tell you once again, and I mentioned it before, and I'll mention it every two weeks. Seth DeValve will be signed to the Patriots. He unsigned right now. What's he's saying? He's on Cleveland. So either I think he's gonna get dumped by Cleveland at one point and get added, or I can see a low level trade which which in theory will become a high level trade when he catches eight. How what's your peace scale on DeValve and Gordon having some key
playoff moments to your constern nation? You know, I think last year when when Gordon went to the Patriots, the Browns were nothing that they are right now and it was just another massive annoyance. Couldn't care less to do
you deal with Josh Gordon? Um. And it's interesting around this time with this Ben Watson situation is coming out Chris Long, who recently retired, so that you know he smoked weed all the time as a player, because the NFL drug policy was fairly easy to manipulate or just use common sense because you knew you're testing uh date ahead of time. And he said he didn't do you know, he's not doing that to be you know, listen to
Sublime records and hang out at huck a Poose. He's doing it because it was it helped him heal mentally and physically. Yeah, really rich details of analysis to that object on Friday, was it Steve you know, by the way Steve body, by the way, it's tight, It's it's outrageous, guys talk about that. We knew you would want to.
I made you would have wanted I made a comment just how he was elder states alder statesman in the room, but he clearly was in the best shape and that and that inspired him to flex, which was caught beautifully by herself. That's the only thing I think you would have wanted to have been in the studio for it. What have it? Was quite would like that, But I also would like if we don't talk about that show anymore. We've it's come up twice now, I think it's brought up.
I was being magnanimous early on, you know, you're taking a little shot at Sublime. But I feel like there's been like a mild critical um reckoning with Sublime, that they're getting a little more love now than they were back in the day. People are like, you know what Sublime? Actually they were pretty good. I always loved Sublime. You know, not everything needs a think piece, you know, the Sublime needs. Do we need to reckoning? I think they were fine,
they were great. I think the word mild was appropriately used there. Uh. Gerald Gerald McCoy is still on the market. He met with the Cleveland Browns last week after his lease from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers after ten seasons there. He spent time with Cleveland but left without a contract. Tom Pallisera reported, Uh, they had a good meeting Cleveland, Mark pay attentioneer. They had a good meeting. It was termed between McCoy and the Browns. But he's going to
meet now with the Baltimore Ravens. That was supposed to happen today Tuesday, the Bengals and Panthers, according to Mike Garrefol, other teams that have expressed interest in signing the six time Pro Bowl defensive tackle. McCoy has also let it be known, he wants to sign with a contender, speaking of things that have changed mark for your Cleveland Browns. So that does not take the Browns out of the
mix by any stretch. Uh So, McCoy expect him to sign with a team that's you know, in good in good uh condition right now as we enter the twenty nineteen season. Just hasn't happened yet. Well, I mean, if you're the team that he's already visited and left the building and upcoming are the Ravens, the Cults, the Saints and potentially the Patriots, is interested suitors, you'd want to have gotten him I think before the holiday weekend, got
him signed, get the whole thing moving. Now you're having to like track him down while he's hanging out with John Harbob. Not as easy, big time player forty five plus pressures the last two years. It's if he was one of our top one one free agency, would have been in my top six or so. But does the game match the name at this point? Yes or no?
Chris Westling, Yes, So I don't study into your defensive lineman as much as I should reverse humble breg But what I've read about him is that he can still rush the passer, but more than ever, he doesn't hold the line against the run that he cheats to get into position to rush the passer and freelances a lot. And freelancing it's one of those fuzzy terms that's hard to pick up on tape if you don't know the defense or the assignments, but it's usually what that's how
players get released. Got you moving on Donovan McNabb. You remember him. He played many years for the Eagles. Uh. Spent some time with the Redskins, but eleven of his thirty in NFL seasons with the Eagles, hundred sixty seven games. Uh, he threw for two thirty four touchdowns, pile up a whole messy yards almost thirty eight thousand yards uh, and in general was one of the If we did the Dalton scale back in McNabb's prime, he certainly was on
the right side of that scale for many years. UH. He would like to say he was on something called TMZ Sports, like a television show. Apparently I know they have the website, but there's a TV show and he was on it. Uh. He was asked if he deserves to be in the Hall of fame, and McNabb said, absolutely, I'm not hesitating on that. I am a Hall of Famer. My numbers speak for itself. My numbers are better than Troy Aikman. But he has sper Bowl rings and he
he's played with Hall of famers as well. Greg you you just you what it's scoffed? Yeah, yeah, is is Donovan McNabb. I'm gonna open up the floor here worthy of the Hall of Famer at least in the discussion, a serious consideration, absolutely consideration and discussion. And he seems like a guy who might be right near the border, uh to me that that he is in that mix, because I look at it more like how many top ten seasons did you had? More importantly, how many top
five seasons did you have? If I was doing the old QB index back then, I think McNab would have been about five or six in the league for a long time. Like he was, had a much better career. I think it was a better player than Eli Manning for instance, or or some other quarterbacks that have have gotten in just off of playoff run that he was a top five to six type of guy from for
much of his career. Sometimes it comes down to one game for these Hall of Fame things, and I remember ten years ago, I think it was late in the game playoff game against the Arizona Cardinals for the NFC Championship. McNab ends up throwing for three d seventy five yards and three tds. The Eagles lose, and I remember thinking, if he wins that game, he's going to the Hall of Fame, right, He's still got five years left in
his career. He still can do this. And then they lost, and I said, I bet he doesn't go to the Hall of Fame because of that loss. And if he that game, if he finds a way to beat the Patriots and the Super Bowl, uh, and it is I would say Eagles fans would probably think this, although I think he has a bit of a complicated relationship with the Eagles fans. The story, whether it's true or not. I think it's true that he threw up on the field and and that last key drive against New England.
That's kind of to me anyway. What if you say, Donovan McNab, what what do you think of I think of him throwing up on the field and the Super Bowl against the Patriots and being completely winded when the clock's taking down and they're down two scores. Uh, and Andy Reid's finest moment either that. No, Read deserves heat about how they handled the clock there, and Read has always been famous about being poor with the clock. But
that sticks to you too. I mean, Eli Manning maybe not as good a quarterback as Donovan McNabb talent wise, but he has two Super Bowl m vps and McNabb threw up on the field. And I know he's also on television and in that world he has to see provocative stuff. Well, he was on Art Network for a while. I remember once sitting next to him. No, but he was like consistently seems like, hey, can you look this
up for me? And I'm like, I'm actually writing articles, but I'll be happy to look up stats for Donovan McNabb was sitting next to me studio. But he I don't need the I don't need n't to bring up the Aikman comparison on any level that this is what he does. He can't he can't compliment himself without tearing someone else down. That but that's like his Hall of
Fame argument is completely separate to me. Aikman did exactly what he was asked to do, and there were a huge pocket of people that started the Tony Romo has better stats than Troy Aikman. We're talking about a different generations. Now. McNab stats actually look as good as they are for much of his career. They would look even better now because he was throwing four hundred passes a year, four
hundred and fifty. He was a running quarterback. But like you know, I think Terrell Davis and some of the guys that have been on our air and and other networks, I think it helps them ultimately get into the hall. I think it helps a little bit that they're just kind of in the mix. Mcnabs like the opposite. The more he talks, the less chance I think he gets because he this is not this is not the first
time he's popped up in the news. It has been many many times, and he's it's self awareness, and it's gonna get harder and harder for quarterbacks of yesterday year to make any fringe quarterbacks to make any argument because their numbers are gonna be utterly drowned. I think I'm very high on him, and I think he's borderline. I think he has very very little chance to actually make
it though. Also stop using stats in football discussions. Bang, Okay, three more quick items here, I'll just spend through them. Richie Incognito signs a one year contract with the Raiders. Mike Mayock spoke at Raiders O T A s today and and made it clear that this is very much a touch and ghost situation. Incognito, who's had a host of issues on the field, off the field, you name it, has to be a good citizen inside and outside the
locker room. But after coming out of retirement, he was still a very um productive guard for the Bills in those recent seasons. So he signs a deal. J J. Watt he's engaged to a soccer player k Leah ohi um. And he did the thing on Twitter or Instagram or social media where he had somebody stationed with a camera to get the in real time photo, which I'm a
little disappointed Weston to do this. I feel like there's something west would do, but maybe he didn't have a handler nearby to take the photo him actually proposing in
the same thing. A Rod did it and now J. J. Watt does it, and there's some connected tissues with a yacht in the background, with a yacht in the background on a jetty, it appears, and what maybe nantuckets are we already at the stage where West is receiving brush back, and you know, I guess it would be criticism for the process of his getting married and when he went through. We're a week away from the app are a very social media savvy couple. Probably knew Erica better back then.
Maybe you know that's true, Eric, I didn't shoot the wedding. I don't think I've ever been accused of being social media, so I know this. This one was on this these pictures were on Mars Rdar for sure. Well, I mean, I think I'm happy for him and he's ah over sort of luscious mail product. He looks very good at the photos, looks great. And his clothing line, I mean what I have learned shirts and I wear it all
the time, a product every day, tremendous. And finally, the news Pat Shermer spoke at Giants ot As talking about their quarterback situation, Eli Manning and rookie Daniel Jones. You know, noted that they both have calm demeanors, but both are quote fiery under the covers would not have guessed it. But sometimes you never know how did that come up they were talking about. Um, I don't know. I can't piece it together to you. I'm just saying what he
said under the covers fireballs. Sometimes you get surprised by those things. Yeah, yeah, just Steven that Sherman would know, right, how is this bend diagram of information and scouting department? I do like all the the pictures which just was part of the combined by the the memes where it's just basically like the Spiderman meme, except it's Daniel Jones and it's like them, just like as Yeah, it's great.
Maybe he's like a secret late period Manning brother that was raised up in a different family, like much younger, he's a little bit better looking, and if he's a little bit better as a player, well they made the right move. Let's just drill down there. What marks implying here? So you're saying that Archie Manning potentially had a secret child that was raised elsewhere under I'm not necessarily um you know, putting Archie Manning out there is the guilty party.
It could be anyone related to the either parents, but I'm not suggesting that this this also is the case if they look this much alike, their body language mirrors each other. I would just say it's out there as a suspicious scenario, and your best friends with the quarterback, and then you're drafted by the Giants after the Giants have spent two years coddling Manning waiting for Daniel Jones to be a graduate from college. That is a great seg into our ad read here this Father's Day, give
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seemed pretty pleased with himself. This is about two thousand fourteen or thir I maintained he has always been an interesting character and he made following football more enjoyable for a lot of people. Uh see, there's that soft spart in your heart for the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, that was. That was back when when I was a fan. That was not not bloody likely. I mean it was really a one year sensation of sorts. He's well, he blew but blew out his a c L. The next year,
you got your money worth. Genies are hot right now. Everybody knows. No one's refusing it. It's just that's what's going on in society. And as I noted earlier, we have a popular NFL podcast, We'll does it happen by accident? We surf a zig geist. That's what we do here, surf the zike geist. So what we're doing it the big there's a big Genie show to a cartoon Shimmer and Shine. So you're popular with the young girls. Okay,
very good. See plugged in Genie's unstoppable right now. So I'm gonna put on the Genie hat and I'm gonna hand them out to you guys. Bang bang bang Genie hat, Ruby feather, Erica. Can you look up the proper term for the genie hat? Isn't it a turban? Oh? Oh? I don't know. I just want to make sure we have it right. I'll let someone else go on record with the Yeah. I mean, the only potential thing that's been offensive about any of this is you even just
bringing up and it could be a fan. Wait, doesn't Will Smith have a topknot and not even a hat whatsoever? I haven't seen the film, but you sound like you know. I read an article on Will Smith soon d This is more like, uh, this is more like the cliche, you know, the signature genie of our past. All right, and I dream up Now you went too far back? Okay, here we go. So we're all gonna go around the horn. We're genies. We're gonna grant one wish to NFL teams. Uh,
be somewhat quick about it. We want to hit as many teams as possible. But dig in, and we're gonna start with Greg Rosenthal. No, I have pointed over there. I want to see I want to see the vibe. You want to get the vibeeah, yeah, you want the vibe? All right, Chris Wesley, Well, I don't know if I should be all right, let me start. I'll do I'll do it. Okay, go ahead. You know I'm the lead off hitter here. All right, there you are, and we got a big game coming up Wednesday, the Shield after
the rain out, four and two. I gotta finish in the top three to be in the top four to be in the playoffs. Any threat not to four and two sounds because I think we're gonna have to essentially, um win about five of seven to close out to make the players, which isn't really possible. Different structure this year, Well, you could feel a team of garbage cans against some
of these teams in the league and still win. There's eight teams you gotta get in that top four to be in the player Okay, alright, and I like I like your chances, guys, Thanks great, appreciate. All right, here
we go West, get us going. Well, it's a make or break season for the Texans offensive line and the wish I'm going to grant them is that their first and second round draft picks Titus Howard and Max Sharping become instant impact book end tackles and they never have to play Matt Khalil or Central Henderson for even one snap of the two thousand h concise, beautiful. That's why you should I had Greg go first. I was I was too busy. I was trying to communicate with eyes
with Erica and I wasn't listening, so I missed it. Well, what I was looking forward to clues from Gregor mark it. I think it's a great wish to grant because it's not just a wish for Deshaun Watson or Texans fans or Bill O'Brien. It's for all NFL fans because it's if you guys see you seen on Twitter the last handful of days, those tear makers, you know that it's it's been very you know, the tears of the zeitgeist quarterback. It's one of it's it's a delightful little, uh internet joke.
But what I've noticed in some of these tears Deshaun Watson, it's like people are still like waiting and seeing to see about Deshaun Watson and they're kind of like, Okay, yeah, he's good, but like, I don't think people are giving him the full respect for a man who came back from a torn a c l and did what he didn't did what he did as a rookie. And it's partly because of these offensive it's largely because these offensive linemen aren't giving him the optimal chance to shine as
much as he can. So I want to see that. I think the one negative result of that would be that Bill O'Brien and his GM friend like who have essentially done nothing, is love him like they did. They did too little to solve this issue. They've tried, they've tried, they had tried, They've thrown stuff at it, but I don't think they've thrown anything. It's it's the opposite of what a team in their own division, the Cults did with their offensive line over the past couple of years,
and they get away with looking too good. But that's what Genie's too. Genie's give you things you maybe don't deserve organically, just to play devil's advocate. I think Brian Gaine would say, look what I've had to pick from on the free agent market, in the draft, I mean, you can't expect me to make chicken sound yeah, I'm not. I think Brian Gaine escapes some of the don't point. I don't know. I mean the the offensive line. I think offensive lines largely about coaching. All right, I'm gonna
grant a wish. I'm putting on the hat. What is the name? What is it called? Seeing Jeanie Turban or Sultan Turban. The fez is occasionally thrown in as well. I'm just I'm doing that off of research. It's not there you go, you'll see the fez. All right, here we go. Here's mine Sammy Watkins. Uh, you know, here's my wish. It's a wish for the Kansas City Chiefs that Sammy Watkins becomes the star. Two teams have been
waiting for him to become for six years. And he was limited to ten games last year because of that foot injury. It was the fifth straight season he didn't play a full season, the second time in three years he's missed at least six games. And um, he tweeted this, and this is an interesting tweet. I will be the best this year, mark my word. I want it more now than I ever did before. In my life. I'm sacrificing everything to get where I once was. The world
will now get to witness my greatness again. Hashtag Starship fourteen, hatch tag limitless four UM, a lot of stuff there, But anyway, Tyrak Hills and Limbo Kole Hardman from Georgia. They took him in the second round, and a lot has been made about that that Hardman needs to make a instant impact in year one, and that's probably true, but I think a lot of people, at least I'll
speak for myself, are kind of overlooking that. Sammy Watkins. Yeah, they gave the guy three or forty eight million dollars deal last year, about fourteen months ago, with thirty one million thirty two million guaranteed in the first two years. He's supposed to be the guy. He's supposed to be a star with UM Travis Kelsey and and and they're supposed to make this offense go still, So that is the wish I grant as the genie. That's Sammy Watkins
finally realizes that potential. And he's still only twenty five, which is crazy. He's turning twenty six next month. Does anyone in this studio no, whether Sammy Watkins is a good or bad football player relative to who I have no idea if he's good or band he's He's the least confident football evaluation in my life. I think I think he's I'm confident he can play, you know, as
a starter in the NFL. Whether he's a difference maker at all to me is the last time we saw he had four for one fourteen against the Pats and the championship game. Uh that loss. He can do it. He just moments together. He has his moments. But I will say this, and I even texted rap Sheet to get his name. Uh, everybody's got to fire their agent and hire Tory Dandy. That's Sammy Watkins is agent. That guy did a nice job. Well, you want to get paid,
you got to Tory Dandy's office. Tory Dandy obviously a bit of a genie himself. But I I look at a guy in Sammy Watkins who had early career injury issues left and right, played with Kyle Norton, Tyrod Taylor, a bunch of nothing in Buffalo, and suddenly you go to the Rams and it's like, right now you're gonna get a chance to see what he's really about but then suddenly he's in Kansas City. He's running out of
excuses from the quarterback angle. At this point, he's in a great He's in the best situation of his career. And I wouldn't put it past some receivers once in a while, finally in around year five or six, becoming what they want. But I couldn't agree more that he's totally an enigma. I think he was a making the leap candidate at one point and we're still waiting on the enigma. No more the wish after this, I don't know. He's been in like the two best offenses in the
league and he's just put on the turban. In the turban And now I know that's fine. Greg, Alright, I'm putting on the turban and I'm granting a wish to the Jacksonville Jaguars receivers this year. And I'm saying, D D Westbrook, DJ Chark, how about let's throw him in the Mark Easley. I'm gonna I'm gonna grant you a wish that the ball is where you expect it to be when you try to catch it this year, where you're gonna catch it, and stride, something new, something new
in your life. A j Booi a Uh said this week that he notices in practice. He noticed his place in he's not making as many plays because Nick Fole is actually putting the ball where it's supposed to be. This is a franchise that hasn't seen an accurate pass in like six years. That's what I wish. That is one of the most useful wishes. Yeah, I've granted it. Give it, they deserve it. They I think they're gonna
just PEPs, gonna be in their step. Gabett was drafted in two thousand eleven, so it's been longer than six It's been like a decade since they've seen an accurate pain. Who knows, these guys might be unbelievable. Westburgh might be Jerry Rice probably know. We're gonna find out now. That's why this is such an exciting seg Mark. It's a useful wish. I mean, I when I think of having a Genie, I think of asking for something like the
most powerful thing I could ever imagine. So as mine move for Genie, and we just talked about him, I'm giving Pat Shermer the rare human power to create a lightning strike from the sky and to hear me out before you just that we know the Giants, they're a hot mess and they're probably going to, Oh, we're gonna play Eli Manning for two. You know you're gonna be probably inserting Daniel Jones into the lineup by the end
of September. Lots of issues. What I want to do is give Pat Shermer the power to unfurl a bolt of lightning from the sky at any moment during game action so he can buy the Giants time on Sunday's According to Article four of the NFL rule Book, if the commissioner himself decides if a lightning strike hits, he can decide how long to do a delay a game commission even by days if if the if it gets if it goes beyond the refs SAMPA absolutely, So week three,
they just put the lightning strike delay in now just as a matter of course, before the game. They just assume it's already there. And so this is another situation where Pat Shermer thanks to me every time the Giants get into trouble with their young quarterback. Instead of having to think quick something the Giants have not been Uh you know giants of industry at Pat Shermer can send down bolt of lightning and then he can just casually and calmly look over at the Fox camera and just
sort of give him I told you so. Look once again, I'm delaying the game. The Giants can regroup, rethink their plan, and put a better football product on the field. Thank me. So this is like in a baseball rain delay that goes on for an hour and a half. I think, as much as you need to on Sunday, Patrick doesn't come back out, this is a good time to say, this is quarterback whatever, it's what you just sit back, you reassess, and oh it's mother nature. No, it's Pat
Shermer using supernatural power. So I thought this was like you were saying, this was gonna be how he transitions from me like to Daniel Jones. But it seems deeper than that that. It's just like, if he doesn't like the way the run games coming together that day, you may need it more. You might need it more freely manning than Daniel Jones at this point. So whenever you need to slow things downs to go number two, you just like that too. Get to the locker rooms that's
what you like. That's the true power that like a genie can give and be like you know, and he can't use it outside of football games, by the one that was the other. You can't just use it to like blow up Highway six so he can take a side room. I mean it could hopefully he's a good guy, because it could be used for evil. It could be like, oh, we're losing. Uh, we're losing to the Cowboys. Let's zap zeke Elliott over on the other sideline. Whatever ticks team first.
All right, good, We're gonna go around the horn again. But I have some Genie conundrums for each of you. I'm gonna start with Chris Westling West, I grant you one of the following superpowers. Shermer can throw a lightning stripe to take a top, so that's what he can do. But I'm gonna give you three options. Unlimited intelligence, power
of flight, selective invisibility. Choose one and realized the classic genie move is to make a thing, make you see him like, oh, these are all great, and then bang, all of a sudden, it ruins your life. Or this isn't what I wanted Genie. I put it back, put it back, No every time, No classic Genie move. You gotta pick one, though us the facts are and everything. That's a tough one. Um flight, I'm afraid of hid so that that's not really helping me out. I'll take
unlimited intelligence, even though that's asking for a lot of trouble. Yes, that's asking for tons of trouble. I'll never have a full night's sleep again. I will be in a straight jacket within the next year. Yeah. Or you'll be on a slab in some underground government bunker and they're dissecting your brain while you're conscious. Where's Genie, then west Class. If I have unlimited intelligence, I'll find a way to
make myself invisible. So there we go. Very good. Let's go around the horn again now, starting with Chris Weston taking that flight. Yeah, I lack invisibility putting on mine turban here with the with the sapphire yeah oh yeah uh and the lightning strike that came via Mark Sessler through Pat Schirmer's hands and struck New York. It has repercussions that extend to Buffalo, and it gives Josh Allen
extra powers of accuracy. The wish I grant Bills fans long suffering Bills fans, is that Josh Allen adds accuracy to his game and becomes the most electric quarterback in football this year. Wow, now that would turn the a f C upside down. This guy was fun to watch last year down the stretch. He wasn't fun to watch the whole season. But when he's running for a hundred yards, just because he's more physically gifted than just about anybody
out there, that's fun to watch. And he's almost kind of fun to watch when it's not going that well either, if you're not a Bills fan, because you don't know what the heck is gonna happen on any play. There's no, there's no, there's not many quarterbacks out there like them. And there's some thing about like seeing him throw fifteen, you know, feet over a guy's head that have you ever enjoy? Have you ever seen a quarterback like him?
Sure there's some comparisons too, but not that inaccurate of good and bad with that reputation, like sure, like a Randall cunning Hammer or even a camera Cam Newton, Cam Newton. I think I think he's like a poor man's Cam
Newton at this you know, at this point. For what I'd love about it because people assuming people wouldn't all know that there was a genie doing this, which would take some of the sort of magic away from it for the viewer, is that you hear all these off season stories whenever there's a quarterback that lack It was, you know, Blake Bortles initially mechanics um spending the off season with Tom House. Yeah, they please always like, oh, you're gonna come back and you're gonna be good as new,
and nothing really ever changed. They're always revealed to sort of not really have you the next time. House He's definitely could be that. But what if it actually a quarterback did come back and suddenly was masterfully accurate with his running ability. The Bills suddenly go twelve and four and the Patriots with their zero tight end offense Ben Watson, Oh, look at me, I took the wrong supplement four and twelve, Bye bye. Sometimes that Tom how stuff works. Matt Ryan's
MVP year, which is totally aberrant. Yeah, I don't mean, I don't mean that was Tom Town. If they if that did happen, we'd probably wildly overrate that one season, Like we did Blake Bortles. All right, moving on. You know a lot of people are gonna be surprised that I'm putting the turban on and going down to Nashville
because you hate the Tytoons and all that. Well, I'm here to help because good health and sixteen starts from Marcus Mariotta is the wish I grant to you Titans fans who you annoy the be Jesus out of me and my mentions. But you know what, as I've said on the show, I respect your passion and that you you love your team and you believe in him. So that's what I that, That's what I will be stow upon you. And uh, that doesn't say he's actually gonna
play well when he's healthy. I'm gonna still leave that up to Marcus. But I'm gonna he's gonna be healthy. Listen to these Listen to this. This is crazy. Um Uh. Last year, he missed three starts and didn't finish three games due to end game injuries. Here's the full list of injuries that Mariotta dealt with during the eighteen season. He had the ulnar nerve issue in his elbow, which gave him that the tingly throwing hand. That was Week one.
He had the next singer against the Colts in Week eleven. Reaggravated in Week sixteen against the Redskins, which cost him the big Week seventeen game. He did not play. He also had a cracked vertebrae plant the uh plants. He had a significant tear during the season. It became a full tear in Week six In Week sixteen, he strained his oblique, He broke a rib, and he had a sprained a c shoulder joint. Now now not all of that,
in my opinion, is bad luck. Um, maybe you're not just not built for it and what And there was just a report today I read that he has gained twelve to thirteen pounds. Now why not just say twelve worth thirteen? So we saw him on to even you can tell his his thighs are huge. This guy's put together. He looks physically built. And it all connects. The dots connect because he was a mess. He was not an NFL quarterback last year. Was like a regular guy on
a field getting destroyed week after week. So that's the wish I grant. And you could find out Tytoons fans if he really is your golden boy, because given sixteen games, perhaps he could throw more than eleven touchdowns of the season. Do you have to take a connecting carpet when you're a genie and you're flying to Nashville? Liked it, enjoyed it? West has been sitting on that chenie Jokesode, Oh, I have another one. I have another genie conundrum. This one
will be for Greg. Greg. Here's your choice. If you choose to accept the wish, I transport you back to where you will be the greatest tennis prodigy since Boris Becker, who famously won Wimbledon as a seventeen year old in nineteen five. Well, now Greg is seventeen in nine. Do you take it? Do you go back in time and become the tennis probigy and classic genie move? You might say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love tennis. I'd love to be a star and
rich and win all these tournaments. But guess what genies are all about. Butterfly effect and like building in the back end, and you don't know what's coming you then obviously Looke and your children. Your life is going to take you all around the world. You're gonna probably gonna make right. You can't. You don't know that. That means I'm not taking it, but maybe I don't know. Does that was a test? Does it wipe your memory? Yeah,
I mean that would have been. Yes, it's a it's a white but but I would know, Yeah, you can't do that, but it sounds like fun, you know, competing like that at such a high level. What's better than that? I don't get into tennis analysis much, but Mark and I are the only ones in the room old enough to remember what a sensation. Boris Becker, I actually watched match my grandparents house. He was the pitch what do you call it? Court? Did you guys know that he
famously won Wimbledon as a seventeen year old. Watched it, watched the whole thing. I think I would maybe be more like Michael chang Stow winning the French Open as a seventeen year old Chang bang But then yeah, but no, I'm just saying because he's short, no kids, so definitely no, I'll say. Now then total memory, Well, the way you framed it, there's no way I could. I could do it,
and you couldn't return home. Maybe I would have not thought it all the way through and just quickly answered, well, right, does the genie offering always come with a huge audience listening, like because maybe a Greg, if it were one on one thing, maybe thinks differently about his answer offers. Right, all right, who is up the orders? All? I'll go wait are we going? Am I gonna have two more?
Just one more? Maybe a speed round one, but definitely whatever one you like more do I'm gonna I'm gonna grant Jared Goff a great September, Jared Goff and a great September, and then it's up to him, kind of like the Mariota and I just wanna I just want to I want to avoid a lot of you know, these couples. This one's a little selfish. I want to avoid that becoming a storyline. I want to avoid just that being in the air late September? Did did the
super Bowl change forever? Change the ramps? Now, let's just just get off to a nice quick start, play player game, move, move past that, and then move on to the I like anything. That's a narrative buster. But I think if you wanted to go an extra Genie step, you would have thrown Todd Gurley in there too, because that would have been a passive narrative buster Greg wants him to his career to be well, well he's I don't know what's going to happen there. That's just an injury. Yeah,
you're right, very good. Uh who's up? Uh? I? I actually, um, I should have gone off of yours dew because it's Tennessee Titans related and it's um trying to deep, trying to dig deep into my genie powers. But I think actually the combination of yours and mine together, Um, well, one guy just had an extra one and just taking this one out. No, this one had to be the way it was. But that's how it is. And it's you know, the Titans get a lot of heat on this one on our podcast. So maybe this is a
healing episode. We'll see. But what I would do is genie is I would put the finishing touches on a covert technology project that went dark in two thousand twelve, a project known to a small pool of scientists as the NFL Draft Dbuster Machine trademark all rights reserved. What does the NFL Draft Debuster Machine do? Some backstory. In two thousand twelve, scientists at Bland Tech Industries and Wildwood, New Jersey, were weeks away from putting the finishing touches.
One second, I've been to Wildwo New Jersey. There are no scientists, not above not above, not above ground finishing touches on a carbon steel housing unit, and that, in Layman's terms, would allow them to feed draft bus into said unit and have them emerge as draft home runs. The only caveat being that these draft bus must willingly or unwillingly hand over their DNA to the fine folks
over at Blantech Industries. These scientists would then feed that DNA into the carbon steel housing unit to illustrious results. For example, in Goes the acquired DNA of Vernon Golston outcomes a gold mine for the New York Jets, a monstrous peak condition pass rushing terror for Adam Gates to unleash.
What a healing bomb for fans. You can pull out that dusty justin Blackman Jersey and put it right back on, because with one strand of Blackman's hair, he's back, baby and ready to spin eighteen hundred yards seasons for Nick Foles and the Jags Greg's wish. There are deeper ethical issues involved with the project. Yeah, I mean I hope they have like some substance of use counseling and everything, they would come out with none of that being an issue.
Like they it's just just the perfect peak condition. But as Jennie, I'm looking past all the issues for the Titans, because here's what I do. I'm swapping out hot and cold Marcus Mariotto with his four and six injuries and his twenty eight position coaches in favor of a supercharged back from the abyss version of Jake Locker, ready to lead the team into the next decade. Titans fans, you can thank me later and send a nice little note
to Bland Tech Industries in Wildwood Underground. In Wildwood Underground, I'd like to escort two thousand nineteen Joey Vado to Wildwood, New Jersey. Pop him into that machine and see what comes out. Watch a tram car please? Um wow, that's that would be the the idea of Jake Locker coming back into our lives. I just get goose bumps now. Yeah, I mean, that's a powerful machine, supercharged Jake Locker, none of the former flaws well yeah, illustrious, non dre off us,
no desires, to leave to follow outside of life. I think he was also worried about concussion issues and one of those yeah, all right, let's a quick one around the horn, Greg, all right, I will I'm gonna grant a wish to Russell Wilson. I grant Russell a coach that allows him to throw the ball a lot more. Now. I don't know if this is gonna be Brian Schottenheimer finding religion or or just a different coach. That's what I wish for Russell Wilson and the receivers to catch
it too. I will grant a wish to my beloved New York Jets that they get this GM fiasco under control, end up with the right guy. And I'll even give you the guy Joe Douglas of the Philadelphia Eagles. Everyone
Osanna's about Joe Douglas. Put him in the chair and make sure it's not a yes man situation and get that house in order, because if Adam Gates is not the answer and he gets a yes man and the Jets go under and they're firing everybody in two years, not only is that another two years out of the playoffs or a team that hasn't been there in a decade. Your messing with Sam Donald's future, and I will not stand for that. I've waited too long for Sam Donald
for ineptitude in the front office. So I grant organization and trust in the highest reaches from West Travis Frederick, Cowboys center stays healthy, resumes a high quality of life after months of suffering. Cowboys offensive line vised with the Cowboys linebacker corps as the most dominant position group in football and forces Greg Rosenthal to take the second half of their two thousand eighteen seasons seriously. For once. It
always cycles back to Greg. I love it. Greg acts like the Cowboys were barely five and the second half of the season just sneaked, sneak into the playoffs and are now a terrible team. Greg, you don't even have to answer them because I love the Cowboys. If it were the offense in the league, it was a great defense and allows the offense mark quick one for me.
I think for Carson Wentz, after all he's been through the last couple of years to have a healthy season, that he finishes in m VP form the way that we saw him back when he was a top notch and we put all this Nick Foles drama behind him and his career resumes because I loved him when he was good, and I feel like what he's been through is more than you could ask most quarterbacks to deal with. There you go, and one fine final Genie conundrum for
Mark Sessler. Mark, I can place you on the grassy Knoll Deely Plaza three at eleven thirty am Central time, or I can give you the opportunity to relive that summer of three at that camp in Connecticut. You're always going on about, well, all right, that was not three but ninety seven. That was before I would take the I would take Camp Camp waya Hasseck what is it was? Later?
I would take the summer though, even the summer of ninety three, because I don't I think that anything else where you're trying to change history like I would be concerned about. And how do I get back? Uh, If you want a little more detail, I give you twenty four hours in Dallas. Yes, you could say that the if you want to go by the rule of greater good, preventing like a chaotic, unwanted death of president shooting would be better than reliving like a bunch of beer parties
at a neighbor's house. So maybe I'll go grass you know, for you? What's that you assume you can stop it? Oh? I know, I can. Wow. I mean, it would be a nice time catching up with all those friends and you're in the prime of your life. Maybe the Gulf of Tonkin never happened, remember those days, But you might just gotta go great. I just get shot on the grassy, know, well, you gotta go greater? Good sitting around the fire. First girlfriend's first kiss? What do you think I was born?
You're ten years old of kissing in the new Pearl Jam album. That sounds good to me? No you I I initially wavered, but I've taken the more responsible route here I be a good man Mark. Um, there you go, good genie work. Genies are hot. We surf that zeitgeist. Um. We'll be back later this week and a day to be determined. Thursday. Right, Thursday, The answer is Thursday. I didn't know. I didn't know either, but now I know, because you seem confident, I think, So okay, get the
whole schedule. Another show on Thursday. All right, this is it's It's started. The mail Man, the Old Boss and Ricky Hollywood Behind the Glass until Thursday,