Go Get My Lunch 2020

and at local parks playing frisbee. Uh not this podcast. We are grinding, Sessler, and that's how will always be. Well, it's you know, and for those of us who are in Los Angeles, which is all of us, I've lived here for fifteen years and do not remember a stretch of days nearly this hot. I mean it's it's like crushing heat and I am like, like the television in

my room is sweating. I mean, it's unpleasant creation All right, hanging there, Mark, this is a there's a reason to be excited because football begins this week, and like we teased at the end of the Friday show, we have so much coming up, both individually and as a group. As a group, we got something very fun for the

first time ever. On Wednesday, we will be holding a live Q and A and t NF preview on YouTube on the official NFL handle of YouTube, check out our Instagram handle at the A T n podcast, and on Twitter at around the NFL for linkage. But that is coming up on Wednesday, in addition to of course today's show, which includes our iconic go Get My Lunch season predictions segment, and then coming up on Thursday, we preview every single game to come in Week one. West you listen, it's

been a fight for us. You have so much going on in your life, But how about football back. That's a nice thing, even in a heat wave. Yeah. I like football in September, October, not so much in May and June. But yeah, the calendar sets, it's time for football. So all of the hype that we've gone through the past few months out the window and now we just play games and there was less of it. I mean,

it was kind of nice. On some it wasn't nice the reason why, but the reality that there was a little less hype feels like, Okay, just this season's here. That's good. So much attention we're about to take me out for that comment that we can't have a whole calendar that's been you're doub actually see someone at the door right now. All right, go go get my lunch coming up a little bit later. But first we got to get caught up on all of the news, and there's lots of it. Let's do it, Ricky, I'll turn

down in ten good protection here. That will god a day. Want to start for blow touchdown? Yes, you want to start for Blow touchdown? Detroit? M it's cut down. It was cut down weekend in the NFL, and uh, Mark, I'm gonna throw it to you right now. Obviously a somber moment here. David Blow does not make the team in Detroit. A setback for blow Hard Nation, no doubt.

Well it is a setback. But I mean, you know, we all go through chapters in our life that represent wins and losses, and I just think that the Blowhards, um, you know, I know, I know a lot of these people personally. It is a resilient group and David Blow is a resilient player and it's not just like, oh oh what you know what happened in Detroit is the end It is the beginning of of of the rest of David Blow's life. And if you think the newsletters

are gonna stop, no, we're on issue sixty one. It's a thirty seven page hand typed letter that I worked on over the weekend. I'm sending it out. Um. You know that you have the saying they're taking mailboxes away all over the place. I see one up my street and that's still there. And so these newsletters are getting to the blow hards and we you know what, Just like Adrian Peterson lashed on somewhere else, I think the same is gonna happen in David Blow. When the bullets

start flying and quarterbacks start going down, it's just the beginning. Well, here's a lead for your next newsletter. He's on the lions again. Already, he's on the practice squad. So I mean, he's got a job, David Blow. It's not over. I mean maybe maybe that was the concern that you mentioned. You know that, I know the Post Office is concerned with like a surge of potential mail in November. The Blow newsletter has not helped with that. It's just been

a lot. It's been a lot for the handle. You're right. And the problem is when an update like that occurs. You know, and I this is a hand typed letter. I've got to go do the thing where you put like you could you tape You get a little little type written line and put it with a piece of tape over you know, the existing newsletter. It's very old school, but it's Um, it's for the it's for the real type of news junkies out there. You can always find a company and steal their mail. Um. Oh wait, you've

already done that and got in trouble for it. Yes, let's be careful with the federal government. Mark. Yes, it's not the beginning of the end for David Blow. It's the end of the beginning. And it is the beginning of the Jeff Davian Clowney era in Nashville. The defensive Lindman size on one year, fifteen million dollar contract that there's incentives in there. But uh, he signs a deal. That's not too bad considering how poorly his free agency

hunt turned out. Um over the past few months. And yes, Clowney to the Titans West, that's something that you would connect to the dots on that that always made sense. They certainly had the need there when Darrell Casey was traded to Denver. What were your thoughts on what Clowney could bring to Tennessee. Thank you. I believe I did

have that all offseason. Clowny to the Titans. There's a connection with Mike Vrabel, who used to um be with the defensive coaching staff in Houston when Clowney was there, so there's some familiarity. They needed addresser's badly in Tennessee. We talked last week about how you can't expect the offense, even if they have really good players, to be at peak efficiency like they were the last two months of

the season last year. So a lot of their improvement's gonna have to come on defense, and they'd eed impact players. We can get into um clowney sack totals in a little bit, but I think he is an intact player. And then there's the other part of the story, Greg, which is really where it gets fun from a football insider perspective, is that the Saints wanted Clowney badly, but

the Saints had an issue with their salary cap. They couldn't afford what Tennessee was willing to pay, so the Saints that will out of work in Ian Rappaport and Tom Peli Sera worked together on building out the backstory. Uh, do you want to explain it to the audience? Great, so I don't have to. Yeah, I don't even know if I totally understand it either. But basically, uh, you know, they were they were going to make a trade, uh,

in which um, now I'm blanking. You know, the mystery team, which supposedly was the Browns in the case of the Saints, trade was gonna give Clowney a five million dollar signing bonus and then trade them over the to the Saints for a second round pick. So the Browns pay five million dollars, the Saints pay the rest of Clowneys contract, which let's say it's a base salary about ten million,

and then they get in at fifteen million. The Browns will have paid five they get a second round pick from the Saints, the Saints pay ten there under the salary cap. Everyone's happy. It's a two part trade. The NFL reportedly did not allow it. They didn't like what the look was in it. Uh. Now. Pro Football Talk reports there was a whole other set up with the Jaguars and where the Jaguars were gonna get the pick, and the Ravens were gonna get clowney, so they were

working this on multiple fronts. I think the Saints one got further, at least from the sound of our reporters. I en Rapp report Tom Pellicero. I don't really understand why the NFL didn't allow it when um, I don't know if there's a clear rule against it. And so I don't blame the Browns and the Saints if they are upset that this did not happen for being upset, because I don't think the rules are that clear, and maybe they'll make them clear now that you can't do this.

I mean, other sports do this all the time. Uh. And this would have just been like a two part trade. I mean the deal a couple of years ago where the Browns uh took a second round pick from the Texans to take on brock Osweidler's you know salary and you can you can song and dance that and say that he was actually part of a competition. No one really bought it. I mean that was essentially no less vague than this would have been. It was two parts.

This one was two parts, so it was a little different in that Clowney would have been traded literally the day after he signs with the Browns. You know, he's on the roster for one day, and it is different. But um, I don't love you know, why why squash creativity? Why captain? Well, you could say that in any sport too,

there are ways to work around it. In in the NFL, it's about a slippery slope and making sure that in the NFL, the most egalitarian, the most socialist sport, that the rich teams aren't able to already open up their pocket but and spend way more money. But it's already like that. That's I guess that's that's where I have a You say it's a sliding scale and that that is true West, and I think that's the argument against it.

But you also look at the way that the revenues that teams generate is a huge advantage because teams like the Cowboys and and Washington or whoever, they they front load money all the time where they're operating, Like money that they give to teams is way bigger than the small market teams. And that's a way that they take advantage and they push the cap stuff into the future of having more money. Um so it's something like lawyers are gonna get involved with I suspects sounds fun, you know,

and I did. I got. I was being a little bit of a Stinky Davis on Twitter last week and I mentioned that, you know, simply, Jadamon Connie had three sacks last year. Uh. And I know all you nerds out there, I understand you real tape dogs West, I'm not talking about you. Uh. That tell us what a huge impact he has. But you're still getting a guy. If you think that he makes the Titans better, I agree, if you think he's the guy that's gonna put him

over the top. I don't know if we've seen that in his six or seven years in the league to be able to make that comment. Biggest week spot though for the Titans. That's the thing is he's filling a huge week spot. I don't think this move happens unless Vic Beasley has a disastrous camp where he shows up late, he hasn't been on the field, he's hurt. There's some questions about motivation, and now they're getting like another chance to get a pass rusher. I fully expected Dan to

have some fire breathing sack takes. So I had Ricky cut this clip from Packers outside linebackers coach Mike Smith. Whoa, whoa. I don't know what happened a long time ago. Somebody you know it's probably started recording sex or or some you know, fans coaches, whoever it may be. UM defined a great pass rusher having a great season or effective pass rusher office sex. And that's the one that I hate. These words stupid. The superest things I've ever seen when

they're in the game. Are they affecting the quarterback with the with the pressures the cause sacks are important. Do't get me wrong. People think I don't care about sex. They just can't believe that that's the only way to be successful, because you're gonna a disappointing room, I think. Um, I guess all reasonable minds here can agree that Clowney may not have the sack totals that you thought he

would coming into the league. But Dan, you and I and Greg and Mark, we've all sat here on nationally televised games and watched him disrupted offense, like single handedly taking offense out of what it wants to do and regardless of what the sack totals say at the end of the year, there aren't that many guys who can

do that. I mean, Also, he goes to a Titans team that they were eleven in d v O A against the run last year, and I think the Clowney and this isn't this, you know, maybe the sexiest part of his game, but it's one of the more ferocious run stoppers in the A f C. And I can't wait to see what happens when it's Clowney verse Laramie Tunsil with Bill O'Brien on the other sideline having a deal with the player that he moved out of Houston two times a year. But an answer to whoever that

defensive coaches, who was it again, Mike Smith? The other Mike Smith? Yeah, I just I guess my my counter that is okay, yeah, that I get that. You know, sacks don't tell the whole story. But then why does Aaron Donalds have twenty every year and all the great guys on the defensive lines not They not only disrupt games, they also end up with double digit sacks year after year.

When I think the answer would be, like Aaron donald can be just as good getting ten sacks as he does getting twenty sex just based on beating double teams and causing destroy But hey, Jenavon Cloudy, give me ten sex. That's never happened before. Here's the question, Dan, I think Clowney needs to answer. Stupid Mike Smith. I'm sorry as he gets sold, there are we gonna see Pete Clowney Because, yeah, he took over a game or two last year. I'm thinking that. I think it was the forty Niners took

over um. But he's had these injuries that he plays through and he's coming up not practicing in camp again, which has been a habit for him. He's had slow starts. He's a streaky player, and as you get older, you do worry about okay or is he gonna be able to do it week after week? And that's one of the reasons he didn't get the big contract he wanted. Here what he got a one million dollars a one year,

twelve million dollar contract. Vick Beasley got one for nine point five, Floyd from the Rams got one for ten or eleven. That's a massive disappointment for clowning. Clowney got one year, fifteen millions million to go back on the market reason incentives. I mean that doesn't a lot of people have incentives. He got one year twelve million, um. It's a little better than Floyd and easily, but it's a disappointment for him, and I think it's a good

value for the Titans. Mcclowney also gave up. There was reports that Cleveland offered him eight team million a year, and not just for one year, but over two or three. So his own business handling is a little suspect this offseason. All right, let's keep moving here. Mitchell Trobinsky is the Week one starter in Chicago. Adam Schefter was the first to report this. We'll see how long that last. Mark because Nick Foles is in the building, He's got a

guaranteed contract. He's Nick Foles. But why do you think they chose Trabinsky? Well, I mean, first of all, I don't think that we really got a chance to watch the only real quarterback battle around take place the way that it would have been a normal season, where I think preseason games would have been um watched closely and maybe really separated these two guys. The reports are the Trabinsky, you know, played better in camp than some expected that

he wasn't a total disaster. The last last year's camp was flooded with those reports that Traubinsky was a hot mess. So I think that probably that combined with the fact that you're general manager and coach Um you know, want to probably confirm their own bias that Metell Trobinsky can

be a starter, and you know, that's fine. My problem is is that you're still in a sticky situation with Nick Foles behind you, that you traded a fourth round compensatory pick and offered twenty one million guaranteed to Um

who's now on the bench. In the minute that Rabinsky struggles, which will be about fifteen minutes into Week one, Like, it just creates a very uncomfortable situation for a player who I think has probably um, you know, confidence wise, has been dealing with more than most young quarterbacks out there. I do. I think he's the better quarterback. I don't know.

My thing is this, like Nick Foles is unreliable in terms of probably lasting sixteen games, but he's still sitting there and they're going on to see him the minute Mitch struggles. I feel like this is kind of a non story in a way because it makes sense that the Bears would keep Trabinsky as the ardor yeah, they didn't. They declined his option. Yeah, they don't believe in him the way they They don't think that he's gonna be maybe the superstar that they hoped he was gonna be.

But also, you know what, why not give him one last shot here? But on the terms of it's probably gonna be the shortest leash you've ever seen as in come a week from today, head coach Matt Naggie announced that Nick Foles will be starting Week two against the Giants. Like that's the type of leash we're working with, and I fully expect us, just like I think everyone in this room, uh virtual room, feels that Nick Foles is

probably playing by Halloween at the very latest. They're opening against the Bears and the Packers, so they're two big division rivals right off the bat. I think their schedule of opposing defenses is overall very forgiving, especially after those first two games, so that might be a spot where Drabinsky can't go oh and two against their two biggest rivals.

It's not surprising either that falls didn't look great in camp, but supposedly neither of them look great in camp, and so the Tai went to Drabinsky since he's been there. Um Eagles reporters always say full for whatever reason, never really let it up and can't be there. He's he's lit it up in some games and he hasn't, and others like it's it's not that surprising that he didn't

totally impress. I think we see one of the reasons why they signed Fools, and I thought maybe it was because of familiarity, but just as much it's about he can credit Trabisky concredibly beat Fools in a competition, and he can't credibly beat Cam Newton and competitions. Let's talk some money matters. The Texans get an important contract. On the most important contract, it's Deshaun Watson who signs a four year, one hundred and sixty million dollar deal takes

him through five hundred and eleven million guaranteed. Get that bag, and this feels like west a best case scenario for

all parties. For Deshaun Watson. He gets paid a massive amount of money that sets him up for the next ten lifetimes and he gets another bite at the apple by the time he's third d And then for the Texans and Bill O'Brien, you don't have this anvil hanging over your head that after the DeAndre Hopkins, uh, the righteous anger about that trade, that they could somehow maybe, let's hypothetically say, have a really bad season and Deshaun Watson is unhappy and he's not under contract, and then

you have a potential mess on your hands. This kind of calms things down in Houston, doesn't well. I think Watson is one of the biggest no brainer guys to extend. I mean, what more do you want out of a guy from a face of the franchise perspective? Um? And I immediately went back to one of my favorite football articles, Who a rad was a I think a two thousand fourteen interview with Steve Young in the San Francisco Chronicle,

and he's just talking about running quarterbacks. UM. Paragraph in verse about how most most quarterbacks in the NFL who run are dual threat quarterbacks. They can run outside the pocket uh and pick up yards with their legs, but they can also run outside the pockets pass. He was saying, they can change the position forever. Quarterbacks can change the position forever when they become triple option. When you can bind those first two things with exhausting the play from

the pocket and staying in there. And I think about Cornell greg when you first started, and there was this stubbornness about picking up the spin because you can do just fine, like you can stay competitive without picking up the spin. That's how running quarterbacks are coming into the NFL. They tread water. They stay alive by running their way out of trouble, and there's no urgency. Peyton Manning has to learn to win the play from the pocket, but Deshaun Watson did not have to learn to. He did

that of his own volition. And good for him for doing that. Putting in the time. I think he is a triple threat quarterback. I mean he can almost stay there too long. He has a little like me, I go with the back spin. You know, it's just it's almost like hat he's halfway there, which is a little bit like Russell Wilson, who I think is the best comparison for Watson, because man, he does stay in the pocket.

You're right, he wins from the pocket. Sometimes he stays back there so long you're like, all right, get rid of it. But the reason he can do that is because of one of those three options he has, which is at the very last minute he can make one of those heartbreaking plays that beat the Bills last year, where three guys are coming at him and he just makes magic. And you're right, he's put it all together.

I loved watching the emotions from him, um and what it means for him and his family and how how far he's come and what he's lost. And I don't know, there's not many guys he root for more than him, and and it gives Billy b I think a little bit of a little bit of security, you know. I know he's always gonna be on the hot seat, but he was heavily involved in the trade up for Deshaun Watson.

And as long as that offense and Deshaun keeps playing well under Billy b and there's really no reason to think it won't like that's gonna help Billy Be keep his job. I'll never forget the first time we really saw Deshaun Watson, you know, Thrive for the Texans was at West's house and it was a Thursday night game against the Bengals, and by the end of that game, you know that, you know, we're not big college football guys. But at the beginning was like, how is this going

to work? And by the end you just think of all the hideous quarterbacks that Bill O'Brien dealt with with the Texans, I mean, just a laundry list of of trash bags, and then you knew, right then they have something. They have something for a long time going forward, and it's not changed since. And then maybe it's good for all of us to remember when again all that righteous

anger and it was deserved. The DeAndre Hopkins trade was terrible, but they're their floor in Houston is always gonna be higher than people realize it because Deshaun Watson is the quarterback. So in December, when we're trying to figure out who's gonna win the a f C South, when the Texans are in the mix, like I expect them debate, it's

gonna because of the guy behind center. Other business matters, Keenan Allen signed a four year extension with the Chargers that is worth more than eighty million, per RAP reports. So they lock up their number one receiver twenty eight years old, and uh, Tyron Taylor is gonna need Keenan

Allen to keep that offense moving. Also, today, Avious White of the cornerback of the Bills gets four year seventy million UH fifty five million guaranteed and finally, the most underrated player on the Pittsburgh Steelers difference defense, Cam Hayward, he gets a four year seventy one This is all in the same ballpark. Interesting four year seventy one point four million dollar extension through four west the tape dog, Cam Hayward. What makes him so special and why does

he help the Steelers the way he does well? He's a good all around and in a three four I mean he plays the run, occupies blockers, and gets after the passer. And when you do All Pro list every year you pencil and Aaron Donald first, and then after that there's a group of guys and Cam Hayward is always in that group every year for the past three or four years. He's in the next group down as a guy who's an obvious pro bowler and might just be an All Pro as well. Keenan Allen was a

big contract for him. He's only and he ate still somehow he's been so productive you think of him were getting hurt a lot, but he's played six in games three straight years and that was a big offseason, big camp. I think for Talasco so much for the pandemic. Like you know, chowderheads like me are like, well, in this pandemic and the salary caps going down, next year not gonna be a lot of big business. You know, you're not gonna be able, You're not gonna see these contracts

they're gonna roll over the next year. It's like, no, there's tons of huge contracts. They're not worried about next year. They're getting they're getting people signed, and the charges especially getting posted and Keenan Allen signed avoided some some problems for next year. If Devil's Advocate, what if all these teams are making massive mistakes are going to be right?

Point is wait, let me finish my point. My point being that it gets set at one seventy five and then you the market gets flooded next year with all these veterans that no one would expect it to be on the free agent market. Actually sounds kind of fun. Maybe not for them, well that's interesting, but I mean for me. You know, there's a lot of bills fans saying well, this is what we couldn't do with Stefan kill More we have he got away from us and that and it shows that with White, that that this

is a whole different type of deal. And it is I mean, you want to see good teams. That was Sean McDermott's first draft pick. And it isn't just confirmation bias the same way you know with Mitchell Trobiski and other guys that you know don't deserve all the third and fourth chance. I like the signing here because to me, it just shows that this this organization is as stable as it's been since the nineties. And and you're gonna

develop and keep talent, and bad teams don't. Bad teams draft poorly and then when they hit on someone they can't keep them around. In other news, the Detroit Lions have added yet another running back to their stable. It's Adrian Peterson. He made a herd of that guy, No, not the defensive back that used to be on the Bears that he was running there from Georgia. Southern messed up a lot of drafts that brutal time. In fact, the most we just like, uh lack of respect for friends.

My cousin Eric once told me that he accidentally took the wrong Adrian Peterson first over all years ago, and they didn't let him change it trying to. It's like someone who took the Lamar Jackson defensive back on the Jets. I feel bad for that Lamar Jackson because everyone like makes a joke every time he loses his job. It's like, okay, calm down, there was a Cam Newton who was a guard. I mean, what happens all right? Adrian Peterson signed a

one year, one million dollar contract with the Lions. Reunites Peterson with Darryl Bevel, the offensive coordinator. They both together in Minnesota. A lot of guys, uh in that backfield. You have, uh carry on Johnson to start a last year rookie DeAndre Swift, both Scarborough, and now you have Adrian Peterson. I only thought on this one, Greg, is the bars very low for Peterson. You could even say he might just be ahold of fourth guy until these

other guys got healthy. But we'll see. Maybe he surprises us and gets more playing time in Detroit. Well, to to West's credit, who's never stopped flying that Peterson flag. Peterson ran really well last year. I mean he's not a third down guy, but he was a I think at least an average, probably better than average, just starting running back in terms of his pure running. And you're right, Scarborough is going to injured reserve for three or four weeks and DeAndre sit Swift is banged up, so that's

probably part of it. But it won't be surprising to me if like we get to December and Adrian Peterson is taking big carries and meaningful games for Mark Sessler's

Detroit Lions. Well, I mean, if you're Carrie On Johnson, if you're carry On Johnson like number one last year when he was the dude, like Matt Patricia and no one inside the organization talked about Carrie and Johnson as the the answer or never healthy you don't like yeah, but they also then you go out and draft like DeAndre Swift and I think that they're just camp did not go right for them. They wanted Swift to be

the dude, and he's he's Mike g said. Mike Garret Folo said that, you know, the knee issue that he has right now gives sets Adrian Peterson up for a really big week one workload, So you know, it'll be interesting to see what happens there. Darryl Bello trust him away. Was interesting that the Chiefs wanted to reunite Peterson with Eric b Enemy, but they didn't think with the Thursday night game there was enough time there to get him on the roster and get him ready to play by

Thursday night. M uh. In other news, Adrian Peterson's former team, the Washington Football Team. Guess what Alex Smith is on the roster? How about that the veteran quarterback coming off seventeen legs surgeries. We'll open the season as a part of the quarterback's room in Washington. It is actually you'll see this with the final cutdowns that happened all through the weekend, more teams are keeping three quarterbacks because of pandemic fears. Alex Smith beyond that, had a ton of

guaranteed money coming his way. But he'll be in there. Ale Allen is the backup behind Dwayne Haskins, who was officially announced as the starter as expected. Uh so, just you know, obviously a great story West. Alex Smith will be uh on a roster to start the season. Whether he plays or not, we'll see. I thought we see every September guys who make the final roster and then immediately get caught um or resigned after week one. And I always think at the time, you know, we make

too big of a deal about the final roster. But I think there's a ritual to it in football circles. And for Alex Smith what he's been through, credit alone just for making this roster. I mean, I don't even care what he goes on to do the rest of the year. Just the ritual nature of making surviving cuts in football, that's a big thing. And and he did it.

Um My hats off to him. I know, when you're going through something awful like this, um, working hard and keeping your mind active keeps you young and keeps your mind off of other things. And I think that's a lot of what drives him. I mean, and think of the value he brings. Just you know, you're telling me that they're not like a better quarterback room with him there. I mean, having him there is gonna make should make Kyle Allen, Dwayne hasking, but it should make a lot

of people better. I mean, just to to have that sort of example. And who knows, it would be fun if he I guess if he plays. If it gets that point, I mean, you're a little anxious about it or I am. But but if not, what was said is absolutely true. It's an amazing way. If this is how his career ends, it's kind of an amazing way

that he did it on his own terms. And on the subject of veteran quarterbacks that can help teams in different ways, the Eagles signed Josh McCown to their practice squad, the oldest practice squad player in the history of the NFL at forty one years old. Again, this would not have happened if it weren't a pandemic year. They had to, uh.

They jumped up the practice squad this year from ten to sixteen players, and McCaw and McCown will live in Texas, join the team in virtual meetings, and then serve as the emergency quarterback if something bad happens. How about that Mark a platy something bros out there have a reason to celebrate. I love it and I still I still believe strongly that he will start a game this year and have to be you know, shipped in from Texas.

That would be good. He's making twelve k a week, so the new practice squad, you're making twelve thousand dollars a week. He's just showing up to zoom. He's still like coaching his kids in football. It's a pretty good deal to be able to swing the little passive income there. It's gotta be nice for all you old guys born in the seventies to have another seventies guys still hanging around.

It's so nice. God. I remember when I first moved back in l A and um, Josh McCown was coaching high school football way back and now he's not even retired yet. He hadn't even been your making the lead candidate yet. What a weird career, uh. In other news, speaking of weird career, Josh Rosen is on the street. In two thousand and eighteen, he was the tenth overall pick in the NFL Draft by the Arizona Cardinals. They

traded him after one year to the Miami Dolphins. And this I kind of forgot about this part, Greg that the Dolphins gave up a second round pick and a fifth rounder to get Josh Rosen. They give him three starts, he makes about a hundred past attempts, and then they say we're done with him too. So at some point, you know, I know, everyone seems to be. Oh, you know, woe is Josh And you know he he's never had

a chance. But I don't know, he probably could have flashed, probably had an opportunity last year to keep himself in the mix in Miami, and it even if it was a small sample size, it was a chance. And now he's on the street. Well, the Dolphins told you what they think of him. I mean they have they think he has no value they had. They think he has no future potential to be to his backup, or there's other reasons why they just feel more comfortable with him

not there anyways, obviously you want the roster spot. Um, but he still was under contract for a couple more years. As you said, they sunk that draft pick, and Dolphins fans will come at yet. Well, they had moved down in the second round before they did it. And you know what, I don't think it was a bad trade. I think it was worth taking a swing. I always say that keep taking swings at quarterback until you get one, and if you're gonna miss it doesn't matter, it's worth it.

They're they're gonna miss plenty of these draft picks that they made, and they apparently missed on rosen Um. But it's pretty it's pretty telling that they think he has that little value that they don't even want to keep him on their fifty three man roster. He supposedly had some active offers, but he's joining the bucks um where Byron Leftwitch is who really stuck up for him after

their year in Arizona together. And so that to me is it's not about Tom Brady, It's about the relationship I think between Byron Leftwich the coordinator there, and Josh Rosen, and Rosen really seen that situation as if I'm gonna be saved, it's by this guy as a coach, and obviously Bruce Arians too. I'm with Dan on this snobby because you look at like someone like Steve Kim, who was you know, Q rating, you know, not high for

Steve Kim back when he even took Josh Rose. He's had some he had some issues off the field himself, but he was convinced by you know QB guru Cliff Kingsbury too eat the l on the Josh Rosen draft pick, move him and then draft an entirely different quarterback. Cliff Kingsbury didn't believe in Josh Rosen Steve Kim was willing

to go there. Now a second front office and coaching staff feel the same way at some point, And it's easy to feel bad for the circumstances been in, but at some point Josh Rosen, a top ten pick at the quarterback position, is going to have to prove to someone that he has what it takes to survive in the NFL. It's unprecedented. I mean, if he doesn't, it's

it's unprecedented. There have been no top ten quarterback, really no first round quarterbacks with with this happened that happened to them in their first years just is just never ever happened. Speaking of weird stuff, West, how about this one. The Dolphins acquire running act Lynn Bowden and a sixth round pick from the Raiders in exchange for a fourth round pick. Okay, so two things here. Number One, the um Raiders get back a draft pick that they had

already sent to the team. And also, Lynn Bowden is a rookie. He got traded before his rookie season a third round pick. I mean that is pick eight. It's like one of those weird compensatory where it's like one oh two or something like. Now, it's like pick eight. All we ever hear, all we ever hear if you read read people leading up to a draft is oh, everybody touched out the first round, but the second and third round that's where true champions are built. Well, what

are you doing? And over there in Vegas, well, I mean, so they had him at running back, but Miami is gonna make him a wide receiver, which I think they view to be, you know, where the more upside is. And you know, the Athletic reported that bout in Uh did not have a good camp and that they there was this line from our friend Vic Tafer. I believe, I still don't know how we're saying that name, but Vic Tafer said that some inside the building thought he

was more concerned with picking up new cars than a playbook. So, yes, it's a loss for the Raiders. The Raiders like basically were saying, we don't want certain types of players in our building necessarily. And so you got value back to some degree. Yeah, that was a project picked to begin with. When you're taking a guy who played quarterback and you assume you can just switch is enough talent where you

can just put him at running back a receiver? They had him at running back, like Mark said, and Vic Tafer wasn't the only one who said he had a bad camp. Just about everyone who Well, yeah, the trade said, so, I mean they done them. I also don't want to hear, well, they got something back. Okay, you didn't get a pick back, you got a pick swap. You got a day three pick swap from round four to six. You didn't get an extra player. You're moving up sixties spots on the

on the third day of the draft. Uh, you know, when they've got you know, people in the interviewing fans out in the middle of the street and not even paying attention to the picks. I mean, honestly, and we went. Everyone likes Mike Mayock and he was a nice guy when he worked with us. But if the Browns did this, if the Jets did this, it would have been laughing stock type stuff. And it's it's just it's not a great look. And yeah, maybe he's interested in cars this

summer in quarantine or whatever. I don't even know how they would know so much about that, But like, you know, you have an entire pre draft process to find out if the guy is a knucklehead. Apparently that they didn't. If that's indeed the case, they did a bad job on that front. To Gruden, gives up on mistakes and changes his mind emotionally very quickly. That happened all the time in Tampa. And they signed two veterans this offseason to Marius Randall and Mukamura, one of whom got big

money guaranteed salary. They both didn't even make the team. I mean, look, the Patriots are like that too. They'll give up on guys quickly when they decide this guy is not for me. I make a statement, no reverse gears in this tank. Dan wants to put Bill Belich into Davian Clowney into a car that's just gonna careen off a cliff. I mean, when you're done with people, you are done with them. You know what an actor? I mean? Did you remember that old p s A Mark?

I learned it from watching you. I think it was. Yeah, I learned it from watching you, dad, where the dad's like, why did my son start smoking at sixteen? While he has like his fifth cigarette in his mouth. Alright, two quick transaction things before we get to the sandwich props. Randy Gregory, Uh, there's a report out there that he's been reinstated. He hasn't played since two thousand and eighteen, but the Cowboys now have them have him in the building.

I don't think he's gonna play right away. There's an acclamation period. Apparently he'll miss at least six games, and the Giants are going to release cornerback DeAndre Baker there two thousand nineteen first round pick. Overall. Of course, he's caught up in a very uh ugly legal situation involving a robbery with a firearm. If he's convicted, it's a

minimum mandatory minimum sentence of ten years. And when you factor in his legal issues and the fact that he was even caught up in this, the Giants are washing their hands of Baker. That's what's happening in the news, all right, it's time. Oh oh, ricky, oh, you know what. The people the people that fake misopenia, misoponia, it is not it is notts How is it fake? It's phony. You don't experience it, so it doesn't exist to you. You tell me what we're listening to right now is

not hideous? That is hideous to the ears. And just throw a clinical name onto something and then it's it's fine, Like if people are people are pathological, then that's that's excusable behavior. But honestly, Mark miso phony. Uh, it's right there on the tile. You don't have to buy it.

You could have come up with a better name. UM. But I will say that, like one of my happiest um aspects to you know, working remotely is that I do not have to sit in that newsroom and I can hear someone from four like rows of cubes away eating, So I know I stopped. I stopped like bringing yogurts to work after I realized it was getting on getting

on Mark Trader. It's ironic, though, Mark, that on on Friday on our broadcast, UM, that you are the one that had, you know, one of the most troubling coughs into which I think we learned what you had eaten for the last four time days and everyone on the on the call and the on the show was listening to.

It was so bad that I like thought about it for hours after and I sent a text apologize, and then I'm thinking of all the people behind the scenes, whose text like whose numbers I don't have, and how much they I What I had done was just just I'm not some barbarian. I knew I had been the cost that day. I hit the mute button, didn't muted, but I had been muted, and un muted myself and then let out this hideous, disgusting sounding let me call,

and then muted myself afterwards. What a disaster. I thought about it all weekend. Why would you think about it all weekend? Why don't think about the whole thing? Different you talk about like in your right west it is probably pathological to have musophonia, But I have like many pathogens or whatever you wanna call it, other than others do not. It's not a great thing. It's one of the things. And you know, thinking about the cough all weekend is not something that you would do. You'd be

over written about four minutes. You love to make this gross sound effect in general. So I felt embarrassed. It was not a good look. It was just like, it's like, how, I'm really sorry I brought it a month. We are down a dark wormhole here, all right? So here we go go get my lunch. It is a game we

love to play. We track it with the help of the great Nick Fourtier, who for years now his run his own website dedicated to this particular segment, Go get my Lunch dot org, and it has everything every prop proposition we've ever made on this show, Uh, in terms of predictions, sandwich props, uh, and what does it? What does it mean? The sandwich props? It's not something we really pay out now we have an excuse not to

do because there's a global pandemic. But each of us makes a prediction and then you can either choose to agree with the prediction or say no, Go get my lunch and sandwiches are on the line hypothetically. And I'll just give you guys a couple of quick notes before we get the predictions rolling all time standings again all this Thank you, Nick fourtier, Greg first place, you've gotten fifty two point five percent of your predictions slash reactions correct.

Dan behind at fifty two, West at fifty point eight, Mark at forty eight. But in Mark's defense, he does have the all time sandwich prop prediction with the uh, Nick Foles play was it? What was it? Again? Well, I mean there's a lot to pick from, but that would be one of them. Got credit The Baker Mayfaker Mayfield is gonna take over in week three in lead

a comeback or sometimes that that was insane. And in Mark's defense also is like these records are now over like six or seven years, so it's he had a first bad three years, so it was three years behind climb that Hill's right, you were kind of a you were a franchise that is like taken down to the studs and you were in a deep rebuild and now you're on the way up and finally on those records. At some point I'll get into that. I'm gonna get into that website and see what's up with that coding

and makes some changes, screwub it. And finally, as we always do before we make our official predictions, there are a few of the pop up uh leading up to this time of year, and Nick again tracks all this stuff for so for instance, Mark, you um challenged us. You said, Matthew Stafford is not on the Lions Week one roster, Dan, Greg and west All took you on that, so you are already down three sandwiches. Well about that for a while, I like to go for it and

swing for the fences, and I pay for um. That's that's one of your Lions about face this offseason, which has been interesting. It was you were very hot on that Stafford thing early and now you've come to the other place where Stafford and the Lions are ready to do something special. I also had Rob Gronkowski plays in the Sandwiches on that, so I'll owe me one good job good I'm off to three and oh start Now.

I'm gonna give some back though, because I also said Levy on Bell is not on the Jets in West. You didn't take me up on that, but Greg and Mark did, so I'm three and two to start the season. Now. I still think Leban Bell might not make it to the end of but he's here to start the season, so I take the l on that one. Uh, let's get it going, Mark. Since you're always a wild card in this game, why don't you start us off? I will, And this is something that, um, I don't think I

ever would have one more thing, Ricky. You have time to prep as his tradition, the producer gives us one prop as well, so I'm ready a great all right, go ahead, Mark. I don't think I would have made this prediction a month ago because it would have seemed, um it was too shaky. But here it is no games will be canceled in it's always something Well I think that's it's it's we've never had a football season where that seems more possible. Um, and you know, the

future is a total mystery. But I'm going with no game is canceled. I know. But now now you've flipped it from like you're rooting for something terrible to happen to like making us have to root for something terrible to happen if we take on this completely realistic beat, I mean a realistic prop that it's you could see it going either way. But I don't want to root for that, So I'm not taking that on. It's like what I don't want to be pumping my humping my

fist when a bunch of people get COVID. I mean, you don't have to go from that angle. But okay, we think, uh postponed versus canceled? Oh what were the word was postponed? Or my feeling was the spirit of it was that nothing would even be delayed so off of an original. So so I'm not gonna like I'll you know, and I know that people go back and listen to these recordings and type everything we say down,

But I I'm saying no delays, no cancelations. Well, even if a game, even if a game was scheduled Sunday and then they had a scare or somebody so they pushed it to Tuesday at ford Field instead at a neutral field, that would count to you as the season being postponed on some level. Well, I don't like what I've just done here, but uh no, I'm going with clean slate across the board. So I could be a hurricane too. We've seen that with some hurricane. Like, can

we make it Corona related? Not like alright, Corona related? Root for Corona the weather related, election related. There's so many different ways to cancel sporting events these days. I'm not gonna I'm not taking you up on it, Mark, because i just want everything to be okay, and that's what I'm going to root for. Well that's fine, that's just that feels fine to me. West. I don't know, I don't know where you're not taking this because no matter what I think, it has no bearing on the

outcome the market. Mark is a huge fan of, like, you know, climate change. She's just like you know, like er such wonderful human beings. Not to engage in the sandwich prop. I mean you know, okay, you know a yes, I've always kind of of you as something of a shaman. Uh. You put energy out into the universe, whether you realize it or not. I'm not putting that energy out there. I agree. Yeah, it's like one rain dropping a million

the way you're talking about energy. Just what happened the last six months and what I think about the football season and a canceled game just means nothing. Rest. If you win this, I'm gonna I'm gonna shotgun of sandwich you over to your house by a Grubhub. Thank you. Appreciate it. The courage that it took to take me up on that bed. I see it from over here in this house. All right, Mark, you're up, I mean okay, um, let's do a quick one to get us going, you know,

like a like a palette cleanser. Are insinuating that Mark did not get us. I want to you know, I tend to go on a little bit. I'm looking at this. Uh. These bottom two boxes were taping this on video to in addition to the pocket and it used to be the kissing cousin corner Mark and West but now they're more like the uh, the JH. Allen jabronies. That's what

that's what they are always defending Josh Allen. And so I'm gonna do with Josh Allen one and say, Teddy Bridgewater winds up with more yards this season, and you can include rushing to give a little edge there to Josh Um, then Teddy Bridgewater has more yards than Josh Allen by the end of the season, air yards per tempt or because it doesn't matter per a tempt, it doesn't matter per AEMP rushing and passing. I'm gonna give you a rushing I'm gonna let you count rushing where

obviously that that helps Allen out a little bit. Teddy Bridgewater guy. You guys have mocked and derided on this podcast um for for months. Really well, you know versus your guy, I'm not I might not take you up. And I guess I just don't want to put the energy out into the skies, Like how how will Josh You know, I'll take you up on it in a second. Yeah, I'll take you up on it in a second too. I like that, And I've got my own Josh Allen, you're also involved. I just you are. You have been

made making a lot of jokes about Teddy too. I guess they should have involved the year as well. I'm in Josh Allen. Yeah, Josh Allen will have more passing and rushing yards for sure. So I'll take you on it. I like it. I like this one. You're going down with that Teddy ship and yeah, I'm going to alright West. Do you wanna do you wanna uh dovetail and give us a little more Josh Allen fund I do. Indeed.

One of Greg's little corporate mandated assignments last year was uh an article like an m v P index by December, writing each week who's in the top ten in the m v P race. Here's the problem. Greg's reviled Josh Allen finishes higher then Greg's beloved Cam Newton and Tom Brady in the final year in m v P index. Huh wait, but what if? What if none of them ever make it? Which feels like the most Well, then lose because I'm counting on josh on being on there.

To be fair, I think it. You know, the one I did is only a top five, so that is that is being one of the best players in the league and maybe I could extend it to West uh to ten just for uh twice the works for this like that. Don't even put any comments, just thing that would make it more fun. I'd have to go check. I don't even remember this thing, um, but I'll take you up on it regardless because I do not I have I clearly do not see him being involved in

the m v P discussion. If he's in the top ten of the m v P discussion, I've got some meg on my face, that's for sure. I don't know. With with Greg and gambling, the you know it's already murky, and now you're gonna add in him having control on this of this on some level, like I don't know if I want to be involved with this. I'm gonna stay out of this one. I'm out, all right, Yeah

you know what? Like that's that's very sensible that that Greg is not gonna want to lose that and so he's if someone else is the author, maybe, but I'm gonna hang away from this because this is how you're not this is how you're in fourth place market. He's given you a sandwichist for free. I'll all you need is Josh Allen to not be an m v peak and hey, hey, let's make the top twenty like quarterbacks or TBR first. So I think he's gonna be sensational.

So I also just don't believe it with my heart. I think he's I think West is right. Part of part of the reason for this was for Greg's integrity to be a topic on the show. I'll put him, I'll put him in there. If he does all right, I'll take it. I'll take it. Good angle into we're all because I was sometimes this game confused me. I thought if Josh Allen was not a top ten m VP candidate, I would lose, but that would mean I

would win as well. So like multiple things have to go right for West to nail this right, right right, I should have kept my mouth shut actually and giving you guys easy sandwiches or Greg when when Matt Barkley is starting in week fifteen, I'm just kidding, all right, I'm taking a different tax this year because what happens with go get my lunch, the same thing happens every year. It's so hard to get any of your predictions right, and then the way you stay afloat is by cashing

in on other people's failed predictions. So like, I've now reached a point where I'm no longer trying to like figure out, oh this is gonna trap them, because this is gonna happen. It's impossible to know. So I'm just gonna do is pick the things that I want to see happen, and maybe again all that mark, all that positive energy just shooting out of the body. I love the strategy. It was my tastom hill touchdown one from a year ago. It was fun to root for something

good to happen. So how about this, despite all evidence to the contrary over the last couple of years that he's still this guy? How about Aaron Rodgers is an all pro. I'll take you on that. I would. I would love to see it, and and we'll give you store second team. We'll give you a second team. I was gonna clarify that is a high honor just to be second team, so that that would count um and even a tie on for the second team, which sometimes I am really banking hard on the obviously nebulous Hall

of Fame. You know, special player who has been you know, slighted by his team and has something in the tag and something to prove angle And I know I'm going to lose the sandwich prop because there's so many great quarterbacks in the league union at the top. It's so it's it's so hard to become an All Pro, even

if you have a great year. But why not? Why why not Rogers at a motivation level never he's never had at a crossroads in his career, he puts together something to like really put the Packers in a difficult spot where if he has a monster year this year and then they have Jordan's love on the second year of his rookie contract, which is golden today's gold currency in today's NFL, that puts him in a really hard spot. I think Roger is gonna do it, and that's why

I'm gonna say effort, He's an All Pro. I love it. It would be a fun league to watch if Rogers get to that. My on emotional side is definitely taking you on. I will take you on it, but I like where you're going with it, and I see it as a possibility. I will say I'd love to see it, but I think Rogers has too much baggage at this point. I can't go through four months without ruining it in some way and hitting a slump. Yeah, well you're probably

right about that, but we'll see. All right, let's go through. We're gonna go three props each, so Mark get us going round two? All right, our friend Daniel Jeremiah, Um, we'll leave NFL Network not in disgrace, but with much praise after the season becoming the general manager of an NFL team and never responding to any of our text

messages ever. Again. Wait so if if he gets the job, but he does keep responding to texts, well not just a little that's a little labor on the end, because not saying this is where because you have these great predictions, but you add these flavors and then when they don't happen, you don't count them. How about this he becomes a general manager and the spirit of him kind of like ditching us a little bit will be in will be present now, will you know? Will he send us a

text message? Maybe? But like, are we still going to be pouning around with Daniel Jeremiah? He will largely ghost us. We need a date on this, how about but you know before we tape the Super Bowl? Uh, go get my lunch props because you know, this is getting this is getting murky that you're going so deep into January to be really late, that would be like after Super Bowl. So I'm fine with it being Super Bowl Super the

end of Super Bowl. Uh you know even the prediction yea, even the week before the props should pay off before we do the Super Bowl show. It's already annoying me that we know when we do the little recap right after the season, we're gonna have to wait for this one. Um. But DJ has gotten offers in the past and he hasn't taken it because it's good to be DJ. He's got a lot of children, he's in San Diego, very stable job. I mean it could be you know, it's

not easy, but it could be more taxing. I think being a GM is a lot more taxing. So I don't think he wants to leave this. Here's my thought on it. I can totally see him one day going back into the league in that role, but jumping straight to the GM, even with his scouting experience. I could see his buddy Joe Douglass hiring him as like a right hand man for a year or two and then maybe him leveraging that down the road to be a GM.

But I'm gonna take you not because I don't think Daniel could leave, because that could happen, but because that jump seems pretty big. So I will take you on that. Well, it feels like a Mike Mayauki and jump to me. And I think that people out there might think that Daniel doesn't It doesn't, but it represents It's also the Raiders, and the Raiders are It's that was a very Raiders move, which I didn't. I don't mean that's good or bad,

but like a Raiders team does that. That's too many teams would have done that, it would be a little different. I just want to commend Greg and Dan on their analysis of this, just unpacking the permutations of this, of this prop I mean, with without six or seven years worth of experience, I don't know we could get to this level of analysis, but you guys nailed it, and I agree totally. I think that at some point in DJ's life this will this will become a realistic option.

But I agree that because of the ages of himself and his children. Right now, I don't think he leaves for a GM job, and he is the oft hyphen coaxed duel Jeremiah. I mean this is an annual thing for him where they try to poach him from NFL network. I'm not sure if he's ever been offered the GM job, so maybe that would be different. But but I would take you up on it. I agree with the analysis put forth by my esteem colleagues. A right, well, he got to get to that. He's got to get to

that second. It's the the sec can peak. When the kids go to college. Then you then you soar again that's this time, or you pay for their college by doing this. You know college is not cheap. All right, Um, Greg, you're up next. All right. You know I feel like l A gets a bad rap. You know, it's like the pandemic. It's and or people are just like, oh, you know the traffic or oh it's like I want to go back to my real home where there's seasons

and stuff. Oh, l A. You know, it's like phony people like, hey, how about love the one you're with? I love Los Angeles. This pandemic, it's brought me closer to it. Oh this hard knocks. We're gonna put the two chargers in this pandemic. Yeah, that's not what I'm saying. But I'm just saying. I love I do love l A. The bar. I've lived here, and uh, people thought this Chargers Rams was gonna be a snooze on hard knocks,

and you know what, it's been interesting. These teams have come through and I think they're gonna keep coming through. So how about a little hometown spirit here both the Rams and the Chargers at the playoffs this year? And um, you know, my daughter Elis, who's a Rams fan, will will certainly be happy with that. It's a very on brand. I'll give you that. Most l A teams make it. Remember seven teams make the playoffs in each conference this year, so that's gonna help a team like the Charges and

the Rams. Frankly, is what to me appear to be fringe playoff teams. You might get one, you won't get both. So I will take you up on it. It feels like there are more fringe teams than ever this year. I think that's working against Greg and I'm not buying the Chargers quite yet as a playoff team. Um, don't trust the quarterback. It's that simple. So I will take you up on it. It's like I hate. I hate this weather, and you know, all the different cultures and

the great food. You want to say, I want to I want to go back home to winter. People I don't. I find that most of the people that don't like l A are people that actually have ever lived here. And then it's there's a little bit of there's also a little bit of jealousy cooked in because they know how nice it is here a hundred and twenty degrees

yesterday notwithstanding. But I always thought that, as someone who's now lived in l A for like twelve years, I get why people try to hate on l A. But the people I actually live here tend to fall for it in the same place. And a little piece of my soul dies every day. You know, Yes, I do feel like you have more more love for l A than you did the first couple of months, when I would drag you down to Irish times and you would,

uh make it very clean. The first few years were full fear and loathing of l A. And now it's more just like my old acceptance that my soul is slowly dreaming and now and not in in a few more years, you'll just you'll be because here's the thing, you're gonna have these these beautiful memories with Lincoln, then you're gonna think, like, you know, that's that's my home, my family's my home. This is this is meso Phonia from West because I do remember the transition was difficult.

And then I remembered him saying on numerous occasions right around the time when he was falling in love with Lakisha, how much he was joining in l A. And he feels like he found a home. And now you've you've kind of you're ebbing and flowing. It seems well. I think my number one issue with l A is stomping on people like there's no real family here. People moved from their families and other parts of the country come here,

put themselves first, and then stomp on everyone. Measure themselves against everyone by the power dynamic and every relationship, and are suspicious of everything that does not involve a hund that's selfish interests. I mean that author next star, really, let's be giving you guys the business lately. That's just how I feel about la I don't know how he got the show back after that, but we're gonna keep going here. Um, all right, who's up? Is it. Who

just went It's west, go ahead? But bynyway? What Greg? I will take you on that. I think the Rams are a playoff team, but I don't think the charges are good. All right, Scary Terry McLaurin, DJ Chark one of the two. We'll finish in the top five and Fantasy points at wide receiver who I'm gonna take it regardless, But just for housekeeping, is this points per reception scoring or not? No? We go by standard Fantasy points. Reception is an outrage. Don't give these guys points for catching

a ball? Okay, reasonable minds disagree. I think I would be in but not reasonable But okay, but I'll thank you either way. Here's the backwards pass for five yards. Give him a point. It was really hard to catch that bubble screen behind the screen would be amazing. But Terry, Scary Terry is the guy I think I could lose

this on that he could do it. But I'm gonna take you on the fundamental flaw with the prop here and why I'll be taking it is there are so many awesome quarterbacks in the league that are paired with great wide receivers. This is a Gardner Minshew, Dwayne Haskins wager as well on some level, and I just like many other tandems out there to put up those numbers. So I will take you. I'll take it West, But I I think that we're being a DJ Shark feels like he could do it. I think the Jaguars are

gonna be playing from behind week after week. Minshew if competent, and I believe in Minshew is going to heat. They connected right away Last year DJ Shark and Minshew had big plays right out of the gates starting Week one. So I think I think there's gonna be big totals and a big fantasy year on a terrible team. The quarterback point is valid, damn. But there's a flip side to that. When you're easily the number one threatening offense and there are no real Number two is number three's

and number four, you're getting funneled targets. Pretty heaven that's true too for sure. Um all right, I'm up. Like I said, things I want to have happened, and I know it's not likely. But the Jets enter Week seventeen with a mathematical path to the playoffs, Well i'll take you on that. Um, there there are seven teams making it, which is certainly playing into my Rams and Chargers pick

Rams would have made it last year. In fact, if there was a seven team and and the a f C East could be so bad that seven and eight has a chance going into weeks seventeen, So you could back door it that way or anyway you want. But I still personally see the Jets as one of the worst teams in the league and feel like the Bears. I mean, the Bills have a pretty high floor. Um and uh, and that's gonna hurt I will dan, I

will take it. I like the optimism, and I really like it for Greg Williams to finally get a head coaching job off of like a four game win streak. Is the interim head coach so uh, you know arrow up. Um Yeah. I think that there's every case to make that the Jets are gonna go for and twelve, including Adam Gates being so bad at this that there's some type of total meltdown by week eight. But just like

to try to spin it optimistically. If the defense is okay, and as much as people are including myself, has said that like Sam Donald is not getting a chance this year, the offensive line is getting very good grades uh for people covering the team that this could work and it's gonna be a much better unit. And then while no one is going to confuse the Jets with a great uh group of playmakers, it's not terrible. I mean, Levyan Bell,

Bochard Perriman, Denzel Mims, Jamison Crowd or Christopher Herndon. There are some pieces there. So then it becomes for me like, do you believe Sam Donald can get better and make the leap? And by this time next year people will be like, oh no, he's the wuter back of the Jets, And I sincerely hope and also believe it. So this is a Sam Donald wager for me more than anything else, that he keeps them interesting and in the mix because he will get better. We'll see if it actually plays

out that way. Probably won't, all right, I'll take you up on that. I think more chance of the gates meltdown happening. Yeah, alright, one more round, let's uh, let's hit a quick mark. All right now. I want to remind you that in a very weird there were reports that bubbled up um months ago that got basically didn't even make headline stacks released footage of Navy naval officers UM multiple occasions encountering UFOs with no idea what they were.

You can go find these, There's actual transcripts all of it, and I in another year would have been big news. It would have been a discussion point, and there's more stuff to come with it. I think that we are going to get UM some very surprising yet crystal clear evidence uh during before this football season ends, that you know, to go a step further, that the government will be

forced to acknowledge UM interaction with life beyond earth. And my prop is this that there will be a moment um where Bill Belichick is forced to answer at least one question in a press conference about his view on this and what it means. UM. I'm gonna go with one, but I think there will be follow up questions too, until Bill finally, you know, spills the beings on how he feels about this. I don't know, this just sounds crazy, but I mean that would have been risky to go

with the follow up. But you're playing so this this is based on the fact that this stuff is, these news reports are already out there, and so I think something more declarative, more crystal clear will bubble up and coaches will be asked. But I'm picking Bill Belishick specifically. Well, so for like making it no because it was gonna be nebulous again and cause issues. But once you it doesn't matter like how how much we we need to buy into it or whether it counts as something that's

crystal clear. As long as Belichick is asked about it. You don't yourselves no no, no, can't be mean if you don't have to believe in the theories or the evidence yourself. Just that Bill Belichick must be asked about it.

I would imagine he doesn't believe it either. Here, I just don't want you can't ask it either, right, I don't want to hear Mark because if if the following circumstance happens, are outgoing hopefully President Um you know, admits some contact with the aliens, but no one ever asked Belichick about it, you lose the prop and you know, you know, you don't start tweeting about it and saying like, oh, yeah, I was close enough. Now that's what it usually happens.

But no, you got you need the questions. I I listen, I've tried to make these less long and stuff and more you know clear, and this is Bill Belichick needs to be asked. And no, Danna will not be me asking. That would be pathetic. If I had to get to somehow to get the Fox bro to ask the question and signed into the have to go to Fox on it. It will not be me asking. I'll take you up on it. I mean, yeah, for sure, it feels more possible than ever, but I still will take take you

up on it. I feel like think because um, we have an administration that has shown an active interest in this sort of content going back to before they were an administration, and it's kind of into it. So at least that you know that that feels more possible than in any other previous administration. Well, I think most years that I've been at NFL Network, Bill Belichick has been answered, has been asked more questions on their coaches because of Super Bowl Week and media Night. And I don't think

he's getting that this year. I don't think he's getting the question about UFOs either. All right, so we all take you up on it. Mark, Greg. Let me see you got a couple of this is supposed to be the onion hanging around really although you've taken off, You've taken both of mine completely. But I'll go for the more interesting one because the other one's fantasy, and you

know that's marks corner. Now. I I will just say the defending uh NFC champions and number one overall pick I mean overall seed in the NFC a year ago. The forty Niners do not make the playoffs. You have been you have been hinting and and poking at the Niners for about three or four weeks on the show. You've been hiding what's obviously a feeling from you that your way down on them, but you haven't really come

out and say it. You finally do that, they dive bomb out of postseason contention with an extra playoffs scene in the mix too. I gotta take you up on that. I mean, of course, I don't feel all that hot about it. Of course I see the other route, um, but I think it's more likely than people would give it. Credit to a very deep NFC, a very good division, um, and I could see things going sideways. It's a good one. This one could go either way. I think I'm gonna

stay out. Wow, I'm taking you Wow. It's gonna cost that's gonna cost you a sandwich. West, So we're at that great Santa Monica, tell you that uh loves so much. I mean, every every day a different forty nine or go down with an injury. Right, that's a bad luck. That's a bad luck. It is about all right, West, all right, here's my onion hanger. Neither Drew Brees nor Tom Brady finishes the season as QB one. Wait, what's both? It could be by injury, could be by benching one

or the other. Neither one finishes the season atop the depth chart as the daring quarterback. That's like four over forty onion hanging hangers. I don't know a lot of onions. I West, that's great, that's legit onion, and I'll take you on it. I will too, because they've been two of the most remarkably durable quarterbacks in the history of the league. As well. What happened if you put Peyton Manning out there right now, sooner or later, the body

maybe would have to get hurt. I mean, I can't imagine, no matter how bad he plays them, putting in Blaine Gather for him, because if getting benched, what if the Bucks are like six and ten or you know, five and ten and week I could see like a crazy scenario where the Saints season went horrible and look, I have them in the super Bowl. So I don't believe this, but that they're five and five and Sean Payton calls on old Jamis in the bullpen. But that would be

a wild timeline to be living. Um, alright, so do we all take yes? We all take all? Right? Finally, I have Kai for Bath, currently unemployed, hits a game winning field goal in the final minute of regulation or overtime at some point this season. Not only does he find his way back to a roster he should be on a roster right now. The Cowboys did him dirty on a number of levels. Uh, he will also find himself in a big spot and most importantly, execute in the biggest of all spots late in a game when

the team needs him. I am taking you on this scene. I think that you tell you, guys, give me a game tying field goal to or does it have to be a game winner? No game winner? What about extra points to be field goal? I couldn't do that. I couldn't gotta go for it with game winner. Then then when you win when you do win this stend like it's gonna look have a kicker right now. They have two on their practice squad, none on their active roster. They did have that week with Kai last year, didn't they?

They can give him has been around, he's been around the block. But Kai gets signed. Kai wins the game, doesn't have to win the game, Sarah, who puts a team ahead in the final minute or overtime. Yeah, that would be fun. That would be fun. Now. I do want him back in the league just to see, just like to be tracking this development in the final minutes of two teams that are way out of contention in December own red zone Kai for Beth red zone. Um,

all right, before we say goodbye Ricky Hollywood. As per tradition, Erica, we always have a producer that makes a prediction, you know. And it's such a great tradition. Because Sydney, we missed Sydney. I hope everything's going well with her. She had some great predictions back in the she was so great at it. What do you remember from them? There was there was

one of about Ezekiel. Who was it? You're right, yeah, Like Erica didn't think we remember one, but we did multi i think a league leading sacks season and it was such a great conversation that we really enjoyed it. And now it's time for you, Ricky to make your own prop. Well, thanks for that, you guys. Um. After rushing four hundred sixty two times for one thousand, nine forty yards and twelve touchdowns during his two years with Washington, right,

Adrian Peterson is now with the Lions. But the Lions have carry on Johnson, they have the rookie DeAndre Swift who was a little banged up, but it could not be as bad as as we think, and even you know Bostcarborough. So here's my depth chart order. So Swift is going to be first, then Johnson than Peterson. Okay, all that being said, Adrian Peterson will still have more than five hundred rushing yards this season. Hmm, Look, she did her homework. The depth chart though, has nothing to

do with it. No, that was more just a little much like a lot of Barborough. I think he's on the injured reserve right now. But um, five yards, that feels like a perfect over under one, Ricky. If you're in the desert where you would you would get about equal equal pick equal action on both sides, but intriguing. I'll take you up on it because it just feels unsporting. Um, I think this is your first one on is it?

I don't know. I don't remember last wronk didn't I say that, Well, we we had to be last year. Documented it doesn't happen, I'll take you you have. You got a good chance I think to either like win this by a lot or he's not on the team in week four one one or the other. Yeah, Mark, I'll take you to I. I think it's this is a great prop and he could get he could help you out early on. I think he's gonna see a

lot of work on Sunday. And if they like him and Derek Bevill, Darryl Bevil knows him very well, and uh, if he brings consistency to the Lions, you might get close to that number. So I'll take it. But I think you did a good job all day. Stays in the picture every time people write him off and said, oh, he has no path to playing time Now Darius Guys isn't around getting hurt all the time anymore. But I

still think he does. I think he comes close, but I'm gonna take you up on it in the spirit of the game, Ricky and just we have somebody that documents all this stuff. This is your second ever wager back in Ricky, you um said that Julian Edelman after he tours a c l U in a preseason game, you said he'd come back and play that season, And you got that wrong. You were at one at that point, working your way up the depth chart. Um, the producer depth chart at NFL dot com. Multiple starters. Yeah, I

love that. It's a tradition that you have your producer. You don't give a sandwich prop every year. And this is my second one. I think you're on VACA. I think you you took the weekend off. I believe I'm trying to think. Okay, let me let me for the record, I'm taking that one too. Okay, maybe you guys, maybe you guys will go with this one. Julian Edelman had six touchdowns and twenty nineteen with Tom Brady. Okay, and um, what year was Cam Newton getting all that m v

P buzz? Okay, Edelman had seven touchdowns. Okay, God works in mysterious ways. Boys. This year, Edelman will have eight touchdowns with Cam Newton boom eight or at least at least eight. Yeah, he's only he's had six the past two years. Yeah, you've put me in a tough spot because I don't I don't like going with stuff I want to root against, even even if it's mathematically makes sense. So I don't want to take you on this. I want to see them flourish. I want to see it

the twelve. Yeah, this is easy for the exact opsite reason Gregg just stated, I am taking you on this. He's gonna flame out, just like the rest of the Patriots. I'll take you on it. I'll take it. I think it'll be funny if he gets seven and then Cam Newton just rushes for the next touch. All right, there you go, Ricky, You're now on the books for multiple sandwiches.

And yes again, go get my lunch dot org to track all of this, and we will, like we always do, God willing, the couple of days before the Super Bowl, will revisit this and see how we all did. Here's a little prediction for you. We're all gonna be terrible. Yeah, a lot of optimism. Uh, and another reminder coming up

on Wednesday. In addition, to UH sorry, schedules different now, So Thursday is the next time of this podcast will show up because it will be the UH two shows on Thursday, the preview of week one, and then late Thursday night early Friday morning you'll get our recap of Texans Chiefs. But all so Wednesday will be live on YouTube, Q and A and t NF preview. So again, check out Instagram and our Twitter handles for a link if you need one, but it's on the NFL homepage. Anything else, people,

that s fun, fun show. All right? This Dan Hands signing off for Quiet Storm. The Mailman, not the old Man, the Mailman, the old Boss. I'm the old man now Ricky Hollywood from West Hollywood. Till Wednesday. I almost was gonna say, um, next free agency period, I will be out of the country again. I got the same here. I'm gonna take my two week vacation during free agency spe