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Gatesville Messenger, Dak signs Tag, and Top 10 Announcing Duos

Jun 22, 20201 hr 13 min
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A bunker filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler are joined by Patrick Claybon to discuss all the latest news in the NFL including some more players being diagnosed with Covid-19, Dak signing his tag, and sucker punch stories of the past and present. Dan gets a big time call mid show from the Gatesville Messenger and Marc breaks down his top 10 announcing duos.

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Be Around the NFL Podcast. Welcome to that petition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansen's I'm coming to you from a country filled with heroes. In Bunker's Mark Sessler, Greg ros Athal and joining us again our old buddy. Oh, I have that plant right behind Patrick Clay. Hey, dam Yeah, we're here on the on the old video stream. That's the exact I don't know the name of that plant, Patrick, but that we

got two of them. One died almost immediately and the other we've really been working with, probably even more than we've been working with our own children, to keep it alive. Yeah, that's about. The survival rate is about one out of three for us. You know, you get it. And then I did leaves start falling off, of course, you know, three destroys it, and uh, you just gotta give up a couple of them. You know they're cheap, but they work. Are we talking about the kids of the plan. I

can't remember. Yes, hey, now, Happy belated Father's Day to everyone on this show today. And we all have two children each. Patrick just got into the two kid club right under the deadline. Thank you. Great to be everybody. Everybody have a nice Father's Day weekend. Would you guys do would you get into m hmm? I did a little, did a little beach, did a little in and out. I feel like I'm really embracing so cow like after

five or six years, I'm I'm fully indoctrinate. I don't want to go anywhere else another That's what I mean. This this offseason has been trying, but I'm happy to spend in an l A, a place that I do love despite its faults. How about that about you? Mark? All Right? Um? Yeah, I thought it was you know, I give um my kids a lot of credit. They made cute little cards. We had kind of the best day we could, mostly at home, and I thought it

was enjoyable. I I don't know if I embrace the this version of l A life the way that um my colleague Greg is, but I echo the thoughts I would live in l A for a thousand years. Um. Current current scenarios make that a little less doable than than planned foreshadowing. How about you Patrick? Yeah, I mean I think we could all take a little Greg Rosenthal in our lives with regards to how we approached situation,

especially fatherhood. But you know, it's kind of surviving advance with a incredibly active three year old and his uh, his baby sister who warnts a good batt of attention. And you're in you're you're in it right now. You're in the middle of it. Doesn't matter what day it is. You have like a three week old and a three year old. Forget about it. But I did. I did. Where is my my gift? He brought home on Friday

a football with number one Dad on it. The go It's been sided now we can't take it away from it. I had a little concerned about the overall pulling of fathers. Apparently there's like seven to eight million number one dad's out there. I guarantee simply not the case. There is probably a more realistic somewhere out there. I know how to weed out all the guys that aren't the number one dads. It's the guys that walk around with the T shirts saying they are the number one dad. That's

you know what we're talking about. Last week, Greg, it was like the guy that says, this is my team. What you gotta say it's my team? You know it's not his team. I I have that same flo when it comes to the number one Dad memorabilia, right, so you're like is walking around with with number one Dad uh t shirt in addition to the Bears are my team. But if it's given to you as a gift like that, Patrick, that does not disqualify you. Just to make that clear,

you know, I had um. I always felt guilty, like as as Damashek would say, I was cheating life down here in Texas. Uh the wives. I have a very good friend, Jack Doyle down here who was married to Emily's cousin Katie, and the two wives splurged and got us a pair of jet skis and only went up and down the lake and we had a great time.

That we came back to the house and Emily's mother and Emily put together a shrimp boil, which, if you have never boiled, a great Southern tradition where they basically cook up the bassa and potatoes and and shrimp obviously onions, corn on the cob, and they just dump it on this table and then everybody just feasts upon it. And it's got a great Cajun like flavor to it, all

of it. Uh So put it all together and hanging out of course, with the children was great too, and getting to do that so I felt very, very lucky. And what's been a very difficult year. Um I turned forty this year. To have forty wiped out the way, it was just like for Simone as well. Uh if there was like a celebration that actually lived up to

the hype down here. So I am very thankful. On this Monday, I'm unconvinced that UM that you should or will return to Greg's Los Angeles because, uh, you know, you've been down there for a week. You've been the centerpiece of various news articles. UM. You know, I was taking a look at that Gatesville Messenger and they just on Saturday morning released UM a story that I thought i'd bring to attention. The headline demand high for chicks this year, which I thought was gonna go in one direction.

This was released on Saturday morning at five am. It's here's the lead. The lead here. Urban and rural chicken keeping has become increasingly popular over the last several weeks, but the COVID nineteen pandemic created a boom in demand that backlogged many local hatcherings. So another UM item for you to focus on them you've been playing basketball, your jet skiing, the wife is cooking shrimp, you know, uh boils.

It sounds delightable. It's great. Me and Bob Bates, my father in law and our official beat reporter of Baylor Sports. We built uh a treehouse for the boys as well. We did that. And speaking of the Gatesville Messenger, another great headline, Mark, I don't know if we're looking at the same issue, but headline Coward Winds Scholarship. It's the Coward family where they're a dynasty family. Well one of

them tangling James two. Um, all right, here we go, and yes, I'm still waiting to hear back about my Gatesville Messenger fate. Hopefully that works out. I'll have an update for you hopefully later this week. Today's show with the great Patrick Claiban is a fun one and Mark Sessler, thank you to you for continuing to churn out. And by the way, I would love to return to Greg's Los Angeles. It's the Los Angeles for everyone else. You know that. I there's no it's the Los Angeles in

my mind. You know what? What's you know? What are you trying to say? You're You're like Andy Dufrayn and Shawn take away. They can't lock you away up here. I have listeners getting on me. It's like, well, you know, those COVID cases are going up. Maybe you shouldn't be hitting the beach so much. It's like, okay, first of all, we're hitting it at nine am. That's about the safest place you can be. There's no one within fifteen feet of us. We're outdoors, we're we're wearing a mask to

and from yea, back off. I'm happy that you're happy. I'm not. I mean, it's not all it's not all sunny. Greg's Los Angeles is more of a mindset than it is a locale or zip code. It's not you know, you're not driving. We have to have to be imparted. All right. There's off ramp like Greg's l A is not an off ramp. I can't find the on ramp. It's kind of like anand I did drive to downtown yesterday. We went. I walked into a bookstore for the first time in three months, which was you know, everyone we

had their masks and it was awesome. But downtown is um it's in rough shape right now. It's not it's just even in Greg's mind utopia. You say it's not closed up all right, Well, Greg brought us down to earth with a final comment, but he gives us the story from all angles. Okay, let's listen to this happy, happy Father's Day to all the wonderful fathers that dare today. My prayer is today that you are appreciated and you are celebrated in the way that you want to be

appreciated and celebrated. They need to stop taking you for granted. Always always been up moralizing in the father's den. I love Dion. I mean Dion first of allways, a colleague. He's very close to us. He shows up his backyard looks like basically he lives in his own state park. He's wearing a T shirt that says, don't allow my confidence to offend your insecurities, and then a giant gold rope that says prime on it, and then Mark he

he had more to say. He had ninety seconds on this. Uh, And I thought this one connected with you, especially your mindset on a lot of things when it comes to marriage and fatherhood. And Dion keep going, Hey, ladies, I want y'all to really lift your man up and give him the love, respect and honor and support and admiration that he deserves to day. We don't give a one day. We don't give a one day. If you got to fake it, done it, bake it, just gig him what

he deserves. Are we are we inferring anything there? I mean I can report that I received that kind of attention and behavior and water and essentially what was a waterfall of good feelings yesterday. I can only imagine what it would have been like here if my main message for the day was stopped taking me for granted. It's like I saw, like the Lakisa have wrote a beautiful

message of what a great um dad. You know Chris has been Chris Wesley and or early on, and and I was thinking, like what would it take, Like what if my wife put that message for me? I would think it was a joke personality, Yeah, I would live a whole no and I And that's that's one reason why I love my wife. You know, it's all everyone different types for different you know. It's like I've never getten that message. I love. It's one of the things

I love about Lakisha Laisian Western. Such a great couple. They're so open and um, just the way she is able to express their relationship in West as well, if you remember his iconic vows uh the roof top of the armory down there in Tybee Island. Uh. And we certainly miss West. We want him back here as soon as possible. UM. All right, guys, let's get into the news.

All right. We'll start and we did a show of course late Thursday night, and we talked about, um what Dr Tony Fauci had to say, his thoughts on the NFL's ability to have a season. And this happened during a week last week where there are a lot of outbreaks across the country, but also it hit a lot of teams both on the pro side and across sports. Clemson football, Uh, and give you a little update where

where we are. And then now, so the NFL p A has a recommended against its members working out together as the number of COVID nineteen cases increases in many states.

As you've seen all across social media, UH, players have been gathering, gathering, not even some players that are teammates, but just you know, you'll see a bunch of high profile players from different teams all gathering and just getting in the work, trying to do what they would have done under normal circumstances this time of year in mini camps, just get some work. But uh the now, the advice from the p A the union is to uh cease

all of that. Also, the NFL sent out a memo that creates tiers of access and its facilities to manage the coronavirus and you it breaks down as a tier one, Tier two, Tier three employees, and it's all designed to again limit exposure, limit the chances certain personnel or the need of personnel to get to places where they don't need to be that could cause. It's all trying to control what's happening right now in this world that we

live in. Mark Sessler, Well, I mean, I know you guys discussed on last week's emergency pod, which I apologize for, um, you know, not being there at allency. Well, no, it wasn't not did not not ring into the emergency category,

that's right. Um, But you know, I thought last week was, in the run of the reasons for that show, among other large news items, was really the first week that I thought that the sport of football was um remarkably impact by c nineteen, I mean that college football specifically, I think put you know, we were texting with each other, I put put a lot of alarm, um, an element of alarm and to me and what what the going forward?

Just you know, pound ahead to September ten, eyes on the prize um is a little bit um disconcordant with what's happening around us. And so the NFL responded, I think appropriately in terms of these practices, these workouts with these players get together, um cut them off for now because we simply can't predict what the outcome will be. And the outcome seemed pretty grizzly even just after a

little bit of that. The one thing I think gets a little lost in this, and I'll then I'll leave it for you guys, is that it's fine to point out that your average twenty three year old player could have corona and be asymptomatic, never know he had it, and life goes on as normal. That's largely statistically true for a lot of younger people that are vibrant, But I mean packed into any NFL team are probably fifteen to twenty people that in their fifties and sixties, in

some case seventies. So are you gonna do. Are you going to just march coaches out there of that age? I mean, there's just a lot more to consider that isn't even being discussed. And the one thing I'd say about the league is they seem to be eyeing a number of external factors and sports leagues to see how things continue um with by saying very little about what

is actually being discussed behind the scenes. At this point, I would like to be if we talked about the fly on the Wall segment, I would like to know what they're actually saying about real life and how it is impacting something that used to be four months away now it is merely weeks away. If you want to continue this season the way they've talked about full start week one, horse blinders on Roll Ahead MHM and also

our horse blinders on though I don't think. I think they're doing a lot of work that they need to do here and and now they're trying to What we're seeing now is their action steps with and now whether it works or not, because we know for John Harbaugh, as an example, says, the plan that they plan to put into place is going to be impossible. Does this

tier system? Is that gonna work. Uh. Mike Florio p FT reported the league remains quote highly optimistic season will go forward a schedule, but there's less optimism existing now that fans will ever be president at any of the games if they are played. Patrick, Well, it's real quick to me, that's the that's been the line for three months. That's when I talk about like just saying the same

thing over and over. Actions are saying we're stripping practices away, We're stripping many camps away, were stripping everything else away. And we had heard from David Tepper, I believe it was two months ago, and time just kind of doesn't really exist during this whole thing, but he had said that he saw an opportunity with teams that had outdoor stadiums to have some fans in attendance. And I wonder, you know, as the days and weeks have gone on, if he changed that. But it's kind of like the

fluctuations of NFL policy are built in. Like we heard after we heard from Dr Fauci last week, UH Dr Sills UH came out and said that the NFL's policies are going to reflect the current advice at the moment, and so if they if they do need to move to, say a bubble plan or at least a plan where players and their families are isolated before we even begin

trying this. Then that's something that they feel like they can implement and they can go to be because you know, every step of the way, there have been changes as we learn more about this virus that we knew nothing about, uh this time last year, And we don't know how

players are gonna recover. We don't know how von Miller and his lungs are going to recover, playing at how altitude, how that's going to be for players, right, Uh, there's just so many unknowns, and so all that we really can do is adjust to the unknowns as they come come along, as they become known unknowns, and we find out more about what we don't know, found out more about what we do know, but we we just there's no way to know right now. Right That's why I'm

not overly concerned about the public statements. Now, some are going to be more positive than others, But I think being like lacking some definition right now makes some sense to me. It's kind of like the school systems around us not putting out their plan for you know, some parents are like freaked out that there's not any plan for you know, mid August, late August school is coming back. It's like, make the plan when when there's more information available.

Because as we've seen in California, as as we've opened up, you know, stores and the economy and everything, cases have slowly gone up. And there are other places that were in great shape that have NFL teams like Florida, you know, Miami, Arizona that we're in good shape before and and now are in bad shape, you know, in really bad shape. So things are gonna be changing all the time. And I mean, I said it the other day, I'm not gonna keep it. It's like it's a cut. It's a

national problem. It's not an NFL problem. And the NBA is going to be dealing with the MLB is gonna be dealing with it they ever like agree to come back. I just think that the Bucks players, for instance, and all this reporting, by the way, in terms of the tears that was from Adam Schefter Um that wasn't you know, officially out there yet. He also reported some Bucks players and coaches got it. You know Texans in Cowboys. We talked about last week had it, and you just see

this now across all sports. I mean, then the numbers of the college football players are what's alarming are It's crazy to me. It's not just like a couple on each team. It's like twenty plus per team. Tennis had like one event where they basically didn't I didn't care about any safety at all, um, you know, And it was in the Balkans, I believe, where there was very little coronavirus. And what happened to two top twenty five players tested positive afterwards and they were just hanging out

the whole time, like you know. And that's and and that's in a place where there's almost no coronavirus. But people are coming from all over and that's what this is gonna be like with the players to players are going to be coming from all over the country. So there's just just like so many things to think about that it's hard to expected any organization to be able to handle or think about all. Do not trust anything

occurring or coming out of the Balkans. Let's start right there in the Florial report, which served as generally an update of where we are now compared to where the reporting and the and what his sources were telling him like a month ago was one sort of suggested that the rash of positive tests among that Clemson team, where there were a ton of guys that tested positive for COVID UH, the exposure most likely happened in a weight room where the air is thick and the athletes are

breathing heavily as they exert themselves. It's again, it's just like there's just a lot of theories out there, but that's why this has to be the way it is, and there's so much indecision, and uh, it's just we don't know. Then. I'm sure the NFL will try to do things to avoid of that type of situation in weight rooms, and that's part of the tearing that's reported

out there as well. But buckle up the the The NFL teams have a universal report date this year of July, So I guess is that makes sense as the next big benchmark if you if you're curious, and everybody is, does this season start on September tenth or whatever is the date. Let's see what happens by the time we get to end of July and do these camps start

in time? But I would add one little like if you read Alfred Albert Brier's UM, you know, Monday Morning column, like he talked about the fact that there are coaches out there and they're not you know, going on the record with their name, but quotes from them saying no, we're we're gonna push back, like there are there's a certain pocket of coaches that simply do not believe the season should start UM on September ten, based on where

we are today. And so I just I wonder if there's gonna be there's individual health concerns, there's individual risk taking here, depending on who you are. There's plenty of people in the NFL that have recovered from illnesses cancer that make them um more concerned about what they're exposed to. I mean, the idea that you're gonna get a percent by in UM is the next wave of this. I think. Alright,

let's move on to some football matters. On this very show, we blasted to the Sun any storylines and reporting connected to Dak Prescott and his possible extension. Sounded like this sounded just like that. Uh, And we promised that we would hit the Prescott uh news when there was real news to discuss, and UH, it looks like we have something because Adam Schefter reported that Dak Prescott is expected to sign his franchise tender today Monday. The tender is

worth thirty one point four million ESPN uh ESPNS. Edward Er also reported that Prescott's decision to sign the tender is not an indication that a long term agreement is close, but we will see if they get the deal done. They have until July to negotiate a long term deal. Otherwise he will play on that one year, thirty one

point four million dollar tag in twenty and greg. If they at this point, the leverage continues to build for Prescott because he plays under that The Cowboys done either after give him a deal next year or tag him again for almost thirty eight million dollars potentially in one. Either way, Dak's doing well financially. Will see if this actually leads to a learned long term deal. Yeah, nil, July fifteenth is the is the key. They I'm confused actually what I can discuss because it has been blasted

into the sun. But I know, I know this doesn't make and feel comfortable as a closet Cowboys fan. You know, he tries to keep it about this. I didn't know that. Bring it up every once in a while. He gets down a long time ago. I don't. I don't understand. Greg likes to make jokes because he's a funny just a wonderful man. Greg involved, but I haven't cared about the Okay, all right, well here you grew up a

Cowboys fane. Well, my college classmate demrcus Ware was drafted by the Cowboys and Bill Parcels, and so I began to follow the team and cheered cheered on him while he was There's comfortable you made Claybon, Greg, I mean, he's a guest. I'm extortinarily comfortable making people uncomfortable. Is how I show affection. Really welcome you into the podcast. But I mean, if if we're concerned about my affinity for Cowboys fans, I could just torch them there now.

We could just go ahead and get rid of that. If Cowboys fans like that Dak Prescott More who has been a spectacular quarterback for them in an underpaid one since his rookie year, uh, then we wouldn't be having this discussion because he would have been signed a long time ago. It's an indictment of them. And as well as you know, the people that are going to have to pay him now that they didn't pay him earlier, and so that's that's their mistake. That's a that's a

great point. I haven't heard about the dock thing. It is really weird to me that there's a split in Cowboys fans of whether they're pro doc or not, which it does seem a little crazy. It seems a little crazy from the outside. S oiled brats is what they are. It's happening in Philadelphia too. I mean, there's there's been this weird split with Carson Wentz and it's like two quarterbacks that I would be if you didn't have a quarterback, I'd be happy with one of the either one of

those guys. In a second, I mean, turn the clock back. Let's just turn the clock back to if I told you, guys, the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys would lead the NFL in passing and wouldn't get voted into the Pro Bowl. How would you react to that? Much sense? In other semi Cowboys news, uh Jets safety Jamal Adams, who talked

about him on the Thursday Night Show. He wants out and he wants an extension either or he's listed eight teams that he wants to be traded to this from rap sheet without needing a new deal, even while he has demanded an extension from his current team, the Jets.

Among those teams is the Dallas Cowboys. And there was a little video clip that went viral over the weekend of Adams, who's a Texas native, driving his suv uh in Dallas and a guy from the street called out, you know, come to the Dallas and and he said, I'm trying to. So that's where we are in this situation. I guess I'm I'm confused. Do you think he wants In terms of clarity on this one, I would like to know if he wants just out of New York straight up, or you want the money from New York.

If the the Jets caved to his demands right now and offered him the deal that he wants, would he take it or is it to a situation now where he wouldn't take it and he wants out of town. That's that's the next part of the story, and the story I'm really enjoying h and how it will play on. I think he would take the money. I mean if they offered him a truly market setting safety deal. I think that's the case, but I think both can be true.

I think there's probably some sense that he also wants out, uh if you know, if things are close to being equal, he likes the idea of maybe moving on or else. I don't think we would have heard all of this stuff coming from his agent last year, and in the first place, I and our guy rap sheet said the jets Is plan is to kind of hold tight. I mean, they're not planning in to do anything. So that's I think it's gonna be a lot of noise and not

a lot of action in this one. I mean, Jane Slater, who you know, I can't think of anyone that's put on more tedious storylines on it is a highly marketable team. But to deal with back in the middle of this offseason, this drama, well, I mean she she also covers it well reading. I mean she basically tweeted this morning that there is now a trust issue between the Jamal Adams and the Jets, which is the first sign of um, you know, they're not going to be together long now.

I agree with Greg. If they threw out a ton of money Um, everyone will get real poetic and happy with each other real quick potentially. But I mean, it seems like anything that Jamal Adams or anyone a safety is doing right now is for money, because you're not going to probably get this contract down the road. It's a tough position to get paid at. It reminds me a little bit of Earl Thomas, UM some shadings of that.

But he's also from Dallas, and I think that that calling out to the guy with the phone, I think if you want to say, what is Jamal Adams? What is he from? Like a heart level, where would he like to be? Preferably it would not be the Jets. If the Jets want to keep them there like Jet teams, like the Jets have to do, it's gonna have to come through. Um, they'll lose control at some point in a major con tracked. If they had made him the offer that he wanted, then we wouldn't be having the

conversation right. The whole the whole point that he's not happy is that he doesn't feel like they are going to offer him what he wants now, and he doesn't feel like they're going to be willing to offer him what he wants or what he's worth when the time comes at the end of his rookie contract. And so it's like, in terms of being happy, he wants to be compensated. I mean, he could like the facility, he could like the people around him, he could like the

waite staff, the cafeteria people. But he's not gonna get paid what he would like to be paid for playing a game that's pretty violent. Then why wouldn't he want to try to do that somewhere else? I get just a sucky scenario for Jets fans because how many guys can you point to on the roster over the last ten years? You could say this is a generational talent um,

this is who you buy the jersey of. And then he can't stop being frankly like just a hyper nuisance like it just he's He's easily my top in my top five most annoying athlete I never want to hear from again right now, And asn'tthing to do with the player, did he did he float his own trade rumors last year? Was that was that of his doing? But I mean the Jets picked up the phone. I mean in terms of like the news cycle that I mean that's coming

from flooring park. That that wasn't necessarily also enjoyed, enjoyed that he um livened up our super Bowl hotel with like a Wednesday afternoon Um, you know pool party while we were having that doesn't charity. I mean, he's going to Dallas. He better learned how to run a pool party with with more pizzazz than that one. He was barely I mean he that was like got like a D minus and like and it was like am on a Tuesday they I mean, we all remember the crowd

or surround looked like a lot of fun. To me, I could have found a way to enjoy the situation. I think, um, that was one of the great all time around the NFL moments in terms of surrealness. Uh um us for average bros just sitting at this table pool side planning out some show as Jamal Adams and friends just went nuts about fifty yards away, uh enjoying the highlights. Eric Erica's parents wandering over to investigate the party. I gave them a lot of credit. They were and

they went for it. And I love Erica's dad is like Erica come back on a second. Erica's dad who is you know, the most New England person I've ever met, right down to the shorts with the world Yeah yeah, and those those boat shoes and the college shirt and the whole the polo shirt and everything him. Just like wandering through the background of the Jamal Adams pool party is something not an image that will leave my mind. Uh soon. My dad was like, who is this guy?

I'm gonna go over there. It's like, oh my god, please Dallas safety. I wonder how much UM from a macro standpoint in this and I'm removed. I'm gonna try to remove myself now as a Jets fan and all that, and just talk about the rookie wage scale, which was negotiated and agreed upon in two thousand eleven when they

did the Collective Bargaining Agreement. And if you are a superstar out of the gate, like a Jalen Ramsey, UM, like a Patrick Mahomes, like a Christian McCaffrey, like a Jamal Adams, the wage scale, which Greg, You're you're better at this with the details and the history of it than I was. But in the old days, if you were a top fight rookie or a first round pick, you got a huge contract and you were making a lot up more than established NFL guys. And this rectified

it on on on on a large level. Um, because now these guys were locked into contracts and the money was not that big until you got to the fifth year option as a first round pick. Are we now seeing as time goes on that that system is just not gonna work because these guys understand that they've greatly outplayed this contract that is locked in and is that potentially down the road I guess the CBA has already

agreed to. I guess it's not something that was brought up, But I'm just curious how much of that down the road or right now is becoming the bigger and bigger issue in the NFL. No, it was a problem for the players, and they have changed it. I mean probably, I don't think they changed it enough. Um, but Jamal Adams is still on this old c v A. I think the rookies ultimately they went too far in the other direction. Um that now these rookie contracts are are

there too undervalue. Now they did make a pretty big change where the fifth year option for the first round picks is more about your performance, so it's not slotted based on if you were taking twenty four or you were taking fifth. It's more about how many Pro Bowls you made, which gets a little hazy too, and and some performance structures. And so we'll see that change. I

think next year. Actually, this might be the last year that that the players are kind of in the old old system, unless Claybon you wanted to correct me there. But even then, with the changes in the Pro Bowls, I don't think it's I don't think they went far enough, and I think similar issues are basically going to happen anyways. Yeah, No, I was just gonna say, we treat those sometimes like unintended consequences. I think, you know, the system was performing

exactly as it was designed. That was that was the plan. That was the plan to help teams keep these superstars basically, and the fifth year option is not a killer, but um, you know, for a player like Jamal Adams, it doesn't make that free agency seem a little too far away. In other news, the statue of former Redskins owner George Preston Marshall was removed from outside RFK Stadium on Friday morning events d C. And this is an important distinction Events d C is in charge of RFK Stadium. They

removed the statue. The Redskins play now at FedEx Field over and Landover in a whole different area, a different state. Um, and uh, they had nothing to do with this, but the Events DC decided to take down the statue. And George Preston Marshall, if you're not aware, Uh, he was the founding owner of the red Skins. They were the Boston Braves originally and then he changed them to the to the Redskins. They moved to d C, which is where the guy was from. And he is, to use

modern parlance of probably problematic figure. He was the last owner to integrate UM players and allow black players to join his team. In fact, um Patrick, he was so he he was so dug in under this. He he had a famous quote that I'll have a black player on my team when the Harlem Globetrotters um have a white player on their team. And it was only when he got to d C and the RFK Stadium lease potentially would have been voided if he didn't integrate that.

He went ahead and the team started allowing black players on the team. So his statue, he gone, yeah, whenever you have a racism section on your Wikipedia, um, people should probably uh look out for your statue. In our current climate, as people like to say, we're, um, well, I guess there's a large population out there that that is willing to take up their issues with white supremacy with people who have statues and so, um, yeah, if you got a racisms uh you know section, you might

you might want to watch out. I mean, they there. It goes on a few levels. They're they're also replacing his name, which was inside the stadium sort of on a ring of honor type of deal, that the team is removing that and replacing it with with Bobby Mitchell, who was the first black player to play for the Redskins and was a great player. It was actually they only got him in a trade because the first black player they drafted, Ernie Davis, said I'm not playing for

that SLB. I'm not playing for George Preston Marshall, and they ended up, you know, they ended up getting Bobby Mitchell, so he's dug in and you know, it brings up, um, you know, a topic that's been brought up a lot more lately, which is, you know, will the team changed their name, and he is the guy who named their team, you know. And I think that you have to consider that context in the in the idea of this team name, which you know, we we've battled about on this show.

It was like five years ago. I feel like it was the last time we talked about it. But I think it's rightly getting some momentum to change the team name again too well. I mean, you know, and that starts with the the owner right there. I mean, who who came out strongly grew up a fan of the team and is strongly UM at that time at least UH wanted to stick with it. You haven't heard much,

but otherwise the idea that this statue removed. Individual went sixteen years UM before adding an African American player to his team, sixteen years that everything he experienced in life and how our country changed. He was unswayed by that. UM tells me all I need to know about. When Bobby Kennedy got involved, he like they they issued an ultimatum.

The only reason they did it is because the government issued an ultimatum said you're not getting our tax money or whatever it was, your tax breaks unless at least it had to do with the RFK Stadium, which at the time, uh it was DC Stadium, but it was owned federally. It was a federally owned piece of land that it sat on, and that that spurred the action more than anything else. And that's why I said at the beginning of this, it is important to note that

the Redskins didn't pull down that statue. It was that it was the landowner of RFK Stadium. So to connect the dots there and say that, okay, they took down the statue of the Redskins. What's coming next, Well, that doesn't necessarily die there are in the situation, right, um, All right, moving on, Oh, Dallas Goddard got got in a bar, a sucker punch, uh while at a dimly lit and there was video that went out run around at social media because everything is on video now, um.

And it was an incident at a South Dakota bar. He was kind of in a verbal You couldn't really tell whether he was in a verbal confrontation with another guy or he was trying to talk down a guy, calmed down a guy. It wasn't really clear, um, But what was clear was that hang on. I got a call from Texas. Hang on, this could be the gatesvill messenger. Please be hello, be on speaker phone. Yes, yeah, this messenger. Hey, what's up? Mark? Are you there? Oh? No, uh? Are

you there? Mark? All right? I lost them. You might but that's a great experienced some weird feedback issues I've noticed. If there's certainly with the with the mic. I have experienced that positive sign though. I mean, he's not calling to ask if you subscribe to the paper here for two weeks. This is huge. This is trementous exciting. All right, let's see he's calling back. It almost feels staged. It almost is, but it is not. Hang on, let Dan Hansas. Yes, Hey, Mark,

what's up? Sorry? I got disconnected there. How are you doing? Yeah, I'm pretty good. Us got the note that you're gonna be done a podcast from gage Full this Friday. I am, Yes, I'm very excited. It's actually where it's our NFL network show, Um, around the NFL Show, and I'll be doing my portion of the program from John Ward's office, which we're very excited about of the his insurance company right there on the main street area there. All right, what time are

you gonna be there? Um? I have to figure out that timing on it, but it will probably be in the early afternoon window, like twelve to three in that zone. I could get back to you with like details once I have it hammered out. Yeah, that's fine. I mean I might come over there maybe trying to get a photo of you when you're in town. Get a photo that's good, excellent, like the makings of a vibrant Q

and A if nothing else. We're imagine the scene of Wolf of Wall Street as Leo's on the phone trying to coke someone in to buy a penny stock and Dan's Dan's looking at all of us, putting his fists in the air like selling it like as he's talking, like, oh my god, I like you mentioned a note was put on his desk. I wonder, you know, I just wonder who wrote the note, where it's coming from there, Just you know, there's probably a story on the story

itself at some point here. If he calls back, I'm gonna have to jump away because I think there is some type of connection issue. But all right, that's huge and the photography sending a photographer over or it doesn't think I think he's just going to take the picture of Yeah, I don't think they're outsourcing that. I know I'm not in your l a Narnia, Greg, but don't try to take this moment away. I got an interview,

and now all I need is the front page. You know, I've been exploring the Gatesville Messenger and I feel like if you can't get the front page, it would be time for some soul searching. There is while there are a couple hot take farming updates, you know what. That's that's bad too, because you're trying to set it up like if I don't get it, it will be something

to to somehow attack me. For No, it wouldn't take what you also said, you weren't going to do it unless you got the requirements you've mentioned you that was you putting that out there. You know. Envy is an ugly look on both of you, guys. I gotta tell you something. I I you know, I after I'm not sure envious is where I'm coming. You know what the worst part of it is, I I feel I could set you guys rooting for me not to be on the front page, which I know all the listeners want

me on the front page. Something for you, something bad didn't happen, al right, and everything was ine. All right. I gotta call this guy back real quick. All right. I just I just got off the phone with the guy from the Gatesville Messenger. I'm very excited. But let's I'll tell you guys more about it later. Let's continue to do the news because we only have a finite amount of time with the great Patrick clay Bound, who's gonna be on NFL network as he is always he's

back from paternity to leaving rocking it. You're doing the NFL now right, just all the time, now right? Oh yeah, just the uh the updates, old school the man. All right, let's let me get into this. So the Dallas Godard, the very good Eagles tight end, he got sucker punched at a South Dakota bar and security video which was floating around the web at the Zoo bar in Aberdeen. It's a blow that he got hit and as soon as by the time he got to the ground, he

was already out a nasty shodow. Apparently he's doing well and that's good. And there was an arrest made in connection with this incident. Um terrible, I do. I am curious, guys, Have you ever been in an altercation like this? Have you ever been sucker punched? Have you ever been in a bar brawl? I'm just curious been in one barberawl

Um did not play an active role. Was sucker punched um in the year on a sidewalking boulder at one twenty one in the morning by kind of a It was a truly drunken, crazy twenty something rushing up the boardwalk and his friend was trying to control him. And I was barely paying attention. But I was sitting on you know, a little stone sidewalk thing, and the guy just like leveled me with a right hook just as my friend, Um Kiwi was picking me up and we I got right in the car and we rushed it off.

What hanging with the guy's name, Kiwi? It sounds like trouble. Well, his name is John. He was from New Zealand. But um, you know he not arrived. I'm not sure it would have happened to me. I mean I couldn't see out in my right eye for like the first ten minutes episode. I was about eight years old and I was fishing on a golf course in Birmingham, Alabama, and somebody came behind me and pushed me in randomly and ran off. Um got back out. Ever since then, I cut my

head on a swivel from uh. With regards to people and so, I have not been hit, I have not been hit. I have struck people, but I have never been hit since I was eight years old. But you have struck people. Have you sucker punched someone? No, they're always looking okay, good. You don't seem like a sucker punch guy, so that would have been surprising. What about you, Greg get loose? It was in hockey fights, but that never counted usually, you know, had your gloves on. You

were like nine years old and stuff. I played some hockey when I was a kid, but I was you know, I've told this story. I've been on the outskirts of many fights, but I never I've never jumped into the freight. And I did go you know, to Orleans Paris prison for a night, uh for being kind of on the outskirts of a fight. But all all truth, I neither received nor delivered a punch, which probably doesn't shock you. I wish West was here because he would have some

great stories. Yeah, he was one. Really, I've avoided being involved with fights, uh for the most part. I had one scary incident when I was was also on a sidewalk outside of bar Mark. I was with a girl and we had never our relationship was kind of in a weird place, and we had never been outwardly um showing signs of being a couple. But in this one instance, we were holding hands and walking up the sidewalk and at that moment I didn't even see coming someone because

we were walking up the sidewalk. I still remember exactly where it was, was Main Street in Nyack, New York, and someone coming down the street with full force pushed me in the chest at at such a such a level of power that it through me and I'm not a little guy. Threw me into the street, off the sidewalk, into the street, and I don't even know where it

came from. And I look up and I'm looking around and it's this giant dude and then three or four of his friends, and the giant dude is screaming at the girl I was with because she broke up with him, and I guess I was the first boyfriend or something since, and he was so enraged just seeing me holding her hand, and I thought that was it. I thought I was gonna get beaten to death, like like a soprano scene. Unfortunately, the girl I was with basically screaming at him, what

are you doing? Why are you doing this? And then his buddies, who had a chance, had a choice to make that one moment, and it was. It turned out to be a key thing in my life. They could have stopped me into into unconsciousness, or they could have kind of gotten behind what the girl was saying and got the guy out of there. That's what happened. Otherwise I would have been dead. These guys are all big

meat heads. I will never forget. It's the closest I ever came to getting an ass whopping, and I hope to never be in that situation, and I hope my sons are never in that situation because my whole life was a coin flip at that point. Yikes, it was a sucker push, is what it was. So I flip flop. I jumped up and I was like, what's going on? I did the old like what's up with this? But I knew I was dead. The guy one on one would have taken me out, and he had three of

his like meat head buddies. Anyway, Well, it's like when you look at the Dallas Goddard hit. It was the punch like insane. I don't know what was going on in that bar beforehand or um who I know in South South Dakota, no one's wearing a mask apparently, but they were all swilling beers and having a good old time. When they say he was there with um his family, I I don't know. I didn't see moms and aunts there, but I don't know what family members it was. Well,

we'll wait for more tape. Hey, Patrick, you're not your uncle is married to your aunt. Okay, we have another aunt. Thank you, Thank you, Patrick. I'ming on person, Dan, look at me, Look at me and trouble on the ropes again. Get another push right to the center of the chest into the street, the old zeuser, Patrick claybron We wish you could stay on for the whole show, but we really did dilly dally today and then we got that

huge news from the Messenger which further threw us off schedule. So, uh, we wish you had you for the whole show, but we'll take what we had today, which was the news and you brought it as always, you said it all. I appreciate it, guys, appreciate you always. Goodbye. I'm gonna tell at least our listeners Clay Bank can leave, but they should check out the video that he posted over the weekend. He's an editor now too. I don't know if you guys saw that on like a ten minute video.

He said a lot of people have been asking for his um thoughts over the last couple of weeks, over and then, in his words, last you know about what's happened the last couple of weeks and five years, and he edited a video all voiced and written by him. It's about ten minutes long. I think he has it put it on YouTube. It's on Twitter too. It's worth checking out. Alright, make sure you check that out. I will be checking that out. All right, There goes Patrick.

That's what's happening in the news. I will never forget that. It was like the force of the earth had crashed into my chest. I think it's good to go through something like that, though. I mean, you don't want to suffer um permanent peril. But you know, shake you shake, you shake the cobwebs out a little bit, as the old football a coach used to say, I could have used the kiwi in that situation. Ricky, You ever get you ever get mixed up in some type of girl

fight or guy fight. Never a girl fight. But I did get punched in the head by a dude at a frat party once, you know, But it sucker. It was sucker punched. I was like, we were going into the frat because one of my friends like was in the frat, so we would skip the line and like all the girls and they're like little skirts out in

the winter like trying to get in. We just like walk right by them to get in, and then these two dudes tried to like jump in with us to come in, and then two of the frat dudes were like hey, bro, like you're not with them, and then all of a sudden, one of them swung over me and one of my friends and the next thing I know, there was like ten frat guys in this little foyer and I like got like slammed in the head, and I was like, how did I just get punched? Like

going to my friend's room? But I did. Dan, You noticed that, um Greg says nothing because he was in a friend and he's like, that's just the life, Like you know, you're living that frat life back the same thing. I wasn't in one, so I couldn't tell you what goes gone behind closed doors. But that's the cost of doing business, isn't it, Greg? And I would never it would never occur. That's that's shaneful. Yes, all right, let's

move on, uh, Greg, Mark Sessler wrote a banger. It's it's not yet up on the website, but I'm sure if you if you're listening to this on Tuesday as opposed to the original taping date of Monday, it should be up on the old dot com. It is your favorite broadcasting teams of all time. And that's a good one. Mark.

And I read the copy and I could tell. I could always tell, Mark, with you and you're writing, so you're such a gifted writer, but I beyond just your ability to string together sentences and uh put pages out as the Great day of Damage, I would say I could tell when you're passionate about what you're writing about. In this case, I could feel it you're into this assignment, which makes for an excellent piece. Well, I mean, I

think you guys, I don't. We've never really talked about this, but half our job, we're part of our job is writing, and like, UM, I felt like a little guilty almost this offseason because so we've all been doing a lot of writing, but I I just have not. I feel like writing with kids around. And UM there's this thing that I see on YouTube and it's this like acclaimed UM writer. I don't know who it is because I never track it close up, and he says the key

to writing is avoiding interruptions. And we're writing during a time when you're getting interrupted like every four or five seconds by a small person or someone in your house needing something, and so stringing together these articles have has been a chore. This is the one that I asked for UM the rare like one day extension on because I wanted to not I felt at one point I just felt like I had not I had hit like

C minus territory. And I'm not saying it's Risen above that, but like you ever just need an extra day to put a little bit more of yourself in different um And so I turned it in feeling like this is one of the few that I care about the topic I know you guys care about I've were talk to people about announcers more than with you two and West than anyone, so I know you care about it too.

And um, I this is my list. I would love to hear guys that maybe are on here or not that you like to Well, yeah, where where do you want to start on this mark? Because you you listed what was the list was the number of teams, So it's ten doos and it's not. You always have to make it like clear and like a billion size folded font. It is not my list of the ten best. It's

a couple on here, totally different. But I'll start with somewhere that maybe goes a little bit um when I got into football in the like eighties, six, eighties seven, really deep into it, maybe a little bit before your time, but you certainly know these guys like because they were around Don Crickey and Bob Trumpy to me. Um, to me, they were the voices of the old a f C Central And I mean they covered the a f C exclusively for NBC back when they had that contract, that

that was their deal in their conference. And I just think that Don Crickey, when I'm starting to fall in love with the idea of broadcasting. I was like the nerd that would walk around with like UM in my wallet, likes you know, pro Set put out these football cards that branched into all sorts of things, and they had announcer cards, and I would just like have announcer cards in my wallet because I thought, this is what I want to do. But I would take the old VCR

and tape Cricky and Trump. He's um announcing a Browns games and Bengals games and all sorts of stuff from the A s C. And I thought that Crickey, who was a announced football for forty seven consecutive years from sixty seven to two thousand and thirteen, is one of the more unheralded play by play guys out there because he wasn't you know what I cannot stand is the robotic play by play guy that has zero personality. And and I think because some of the schools churning these

people out, you get a lot of that. They're technically proficient, but there's nothing behind the robotic, perfect voice. Cricky brought that, and he and Trump, he were a perfect pair. And I think West would have a lot to say on this because Trump Trump he is the old um since you guy from the Bengals. He he had incredible Bengals knowledge and Trump he just would get on these um He would get very agitated during games. He would see something that the team was doing that they didn't correct

at halftime. And you know, he didn't just go in with one of these I've got four or five points I want to make about the Jets, and no matter what happens in the game, that's the points I'm gonna make. He would let the game wind on and get super charged up about what he was seeing on the field and maximize back then um pre snap replays and stuff

to make. I would really learn from these two guys, and I'd go back and watch the broadcast over and over, and they had a huge impression on me on what a duo meant when you had people announcing where they fit together and you couldn't imagine them with with anyone else. Qrickie is one of those guys. I almost feel bad that and this is it's unfair that sometimes you remember the end of the career and in your right those those days thinking back that that a f C. I

love the CBS package in general um back then. But I remember Crickey mostly from when I started covering the league, which is you know, oh three, and like you said, he had done it for forty seven years, and that's unfortunate because he was he was like an all time great, and that that's the reason why you can only stick around for fifty years if you're an all time great. It's kind of like Dick Stockton, who occasionally have gotten gotten on um, you know, on our podcast or whatever.

But it's like the only reason he's still on after fifty years probably passed when he when he really should be, to be honest, is because he was so good and because he has made a fan of of so many people inside and outside of broadcasting. You have Al Michael's of course, who I still think is the best there is, and he's with Chris Collinsworth on NBC now of course, and Michelle Tafoya also is a part of the broadcast.

He's been doing this for so long that you could pick different errors of Al Michaels and you do have that in your piece. You have the collins Worth Michael's team, but also the Michael's Gifford and Dan Dierdorf, eraw, which is really kind of in the prime of my youth watching football. Hey, Ricky, do you have the Brian Bosworth play? Uh? When Bow ran him over on Monday Nights Football And

if you're in you can't wait till he leave? Third and one from the tool, here's buckdown he and Bosworth one on one and Jackson just jumps him into the

end zone. I suggested handicap of eighteen how about. I like that it's kind of understated, but also that that reverberated that moment, especially when we were dealing with like a true monoculture and everyone is watching the same broadcast and there's no Twitter, and people are just plugged in to see Bosword get Bosworth get tuned up like that, Michael's call, Uh, it will always be synonymous with bo

Jackson ruling the world in that moment. Yeah, I mean, I I'm glad that the clip and I don't mean to be over the harsh here, but that the clip included Michael's who is uh the best at play by play? Um? And Gifford who you know. People were hot and cold on Gifford, but Gifford to me brought this Um. I wouldn't have used the word then, but regality to the role. He was just sort of football history, um, right there in front of you, and he did Monday in a

football with so many different teams. I mean, none of us saw in in real time him working with co Sell, But there are a lot of stories about when they got co Sell and Don Meredith out of the booth that when it was Michael's and Gifford together, the Gifford could kind of breathe and Um, it wasn't so much conducting a circus. But Deardorf rubbed me the wrong way.

And I it's funny that, Um, I have had the same opinion of him then that I do now that I think he was a good person, and like there's nothing about I don't know anything about him personally, but the humor to me, um was clunky and basic from Dierdorf, and he often just got on my nerves. And I think that's like to me, chemistry is kind of rings through each of my picks. Here, Gifford and Michaels had it.

Deardorf was fine and he did things well, but there were oftentimes when I wondered why the three man booth had to exist that I think they're very challenging, and unless you've not the three man booth out of the park UM, it can be problematic. In this case, two of the three um were perfect to me, So three man booths with like Buck Aikman and Collinsworth. I actually really liked that booth for the most part, Collinsworth and Aikman together, but it's like, ultimately they're both better apart.

I always like kind of the early Collinsworth. UM, you know, his his tracker. I think he was with NBC at when he moved around. He was NBC and then Fox and then then back to the NBC. UH. He was always one of my favorites. And then it's hard to not have these convos without talking Madden in Summer All because to me, that was it. I mean it's not just you know, some are all in in the style, but it was the love of the game that Madden, in his enthusiasm that he had. That to me, is

the best part of any announcer. You got to have the knowledge, but you have to have the love. And that's why Romo reminds me so much that John Madden is like I read all of John Madden's books as like a ten year old, just because John Madden seemed like so enthusiastic and so understandable that he made you love the sport like as much as he did. And I love announcers, even if they're not like the cleanest or even if they lack a little knowledge, you can make up. You can make up for it with like

enthusiasm and love for the game. They were a unique to team too when you think about it, And maybe you guys can point one out that I'm missing, but some are all was an NFL great in his own right. Um, he played in the league and he was the play by play guy, so you had a play by play guy, and some are all who went back years as a player and uh, you know, lived and breathed the sport. Madden obviously one of the great coaches of all time and had that gift for gab. And you said that chemistry,

it's all about chemistry. Everything's about chemistry, whether you're talking about uh in the booth, doing a podcast, um, a radio show. Uh, in so many things in life, but especially in this business. And I always think about I'll never um not get a kick out of the little inside joke that some are all and Matt and had

between themselves about the CBS program Murder. She wrote that had a comma after murder, and then some are all always just to love love to put an extra pause in there to represent the comma, and he did it for nobody else but from that and because there were two buddies who just it was like, we have that on our show, a bunch of inside jokes that sometimes bubble up on the service and the broadcast and sometimes they don't. But let's listen a little bit. X I.

I love hearing some are all doing his murder. She wrote sixty minutes we'll be coming up following football, followed by Murder. She wrote, we have bets on how long it's gonna be between Murder and she And because I love it, I think, you know, like, well one thing I was gonna say that, I mean, can you if someone said that, you just said, any moment um in your head, think about the voice of Pat Summer all

you could do it. And another guy that I think of that um that I put on the list because I think radio is such a different chore and when one of the reasons that you know we can play that bow Jackson calling it you're kind of thinking there could have been more there because it's television and you're

watching the images. But I I have memories, and I'm sure you guys do have, like just driving around with with my dad and listening to Jack buck Um, father of Joe buck And he was teen with Hankstram, who my memory of Hankstram is a little less defined, but they were excellent partners. And anyone who's ever worked with Jack buck talks about the fact that Jack buck Um, on top of being like literally maybe the best sports broadcaster ever, uh, would work effort, like it, tirelessly to

make his partner look good. That he was the perfect partner. But his voice and like I mean, I just remember driving around, uh, you know, in the old days, listening to him announced like a Giants Packers game, and uh, it became the kind of thing where it's along the point of murder. She wrote that I loved his ad reads as much as anything else, just this iconic voice reading um, you know, copy for a can of like

Campbell's soup. But then I know, and Ricky, I think we had this call to he could do the football thing too. Here is what happened when the Bills encountered the Giants in Super Bowl. No, it is no good, no laft. Yeah. He and he's like and and his son has following his footsteps. I I have so much respect for guys that do different sports because it's become more and more specialized, just like the NFL. You've become more and more specialized as a player that you don't

see announcers that crossover. Jack Buck has. He's the voice of the Cardinals. He was a legend. He called Kirk Kirk Gibson's home run in the eight eight World Series. He had the Ozzie Smith touch him all Ozzy will never hit a bigger home run than that, or whatever the exact quote was. But he is a guy that's spanned across the sports. And then to me, I I have no I can't have a higher level of respect in that industry for the guy that can do it both ways, like like his son Joe, who doesn't get

enough love. And you have him on the list here with Troy aikman um and his ability to seamlessly go between baseball and football. And I think he even does some golf. Now I'm not sure, but he's like one of those rare dudes too. He deserves more respect. Yeah. That reminds me of Kevin Harland too. I cheating, and uh, you know, we we all love Kevin Harland. And I

cheated and looked at some old broadcast teams. I gotta remember I don't totally remember the Kevin Harland Jerry Glandfill number three uh team on Fox for like five years. But that sounds like I probably wouldn't get I wasn't getting those games, you know, because we didn't have direct TV. Um. But like, that's how long that Kevin Harland has been doing it and he can go and I think basketball might even be his best for it. That that's how good he is is he? Um? But that's like, uh,

that's a memorable team. The other one, UM that I wanted to hear you talk about? Who? Who? Who else do you want to talk about? Actually, while we're running out of time, well, who do you want? Who do you want to bring up? Ron Pitts was like this one one guy always really liked and I always liked

that doctors he got it. He was like he was kind of like almost the Mike Mayock of his day, who was super tape nerdy and like as just like a young fan, like he he had like the fourth or fifth team, but sometimes he'd have the Patriots games when when he was on, uh, you know the NFC. I don't know it's here, column's here column. Well, I mean I like the Ron Pitts. That's a nice callback.

I the last group because I I pained over writing like the Joe buck Um Troy Akman thing, because I don't like sit around during broadcasts and like fire off

tweets destroying these people. I just because I remember I had this memory of um, the first art high school at a television station that aired on like this lost cable channel out in the middle of you know, twelve people were watching it, but they had me announced um gymnastics as my first ever assignment, and like, um, I you know, waited at the bus stop with this girl named Christine Laparatti who was a gymnast, and I was like, hey, I got to announce like your meat tonight, Um, how

long is it? And what I never watched him nasty? And She's like, you're in a lot of trouble, Like it's a lot of downtime. It's about four and a half hours long. And I don't have time before the bus arrives to explain everything that we do, and like it was a four hour horror show. I mean that reduced me to like, girl, look at that girl jumping over that piece of plastic. Um. She did a very

nice job with that. And there's parents sitting around thinking, who is the freak sitting over there putting this on tape? Point being, I think it just embedded in me this Um, I'm not going to go out and kill announcers left and right. I don't get the hate for I can see that Joe Buck might rub people a few people the wrong way, but I just think that to Dan's point, like the idea that you're announcing like the biggest Bills football game, Um, it's hot in the middle of like

late October. Then the next day yere announcing World Series Like I I don't know. He announced his first NFL game at well, I was getting sucker punched and boulder on the street. It's at So I have admiration for the fact that, like, yes, there is an element of Nepports is him that he's gonna always have to answer for. But he's not like talentless. He is extremely technically good, and so I kind of wanted to stick up for that team because I akeman. I just like having in

my life, um from a football sense too. So you know, the haters go find something else to do. Matt Mellan was the guy I was, Oh, I love it. Matt Milan was the guy I was trying to think of. I love the fact that he would get the top game a lot of times at one pm and then it'd be mad and in summer all and know, even though I was like an a f C guy, it was it was milling in Stockton. And Millan is is an all time great broadcast. He really is. And so

now he's doing college and like he's healthy again. It's it's too bad people kind of remember him as the GM when he was like an incredible player who was documented in some incredible books too by George Plimpton, and an incredible broadcaster. It's like that that's what he should be remembered for, all right, And let me just clean it up because I don't want to get tweets after the show. Jack Buck, Ozzie Smith home run to twin

the NLCS and five go Crazy. That was his amos line in that and then Joe Carter when he had to walk off in the World Series for the Blue Jays. Touch him all, Joe, You'll never hit a bigger home run. All right, good stuff? Check it out to Mark Sessler right up on his favorite announcing teams and um, before we go, you know what we gotta do. It's that time again to spin the wheel and find out which

organization gets the old Wheel of Teams treatment Erica. Um, it is that time again, so give us a spin of the wheel. M hmm, there we go, there we go. Oh, it's the Minnesota Vikings, the playoff team from a year ago. No shortage of interesting storylines around the Vikings, who are all in and looking to get back to the super Bowl for the first time since god y three something. Are on their early seventies and had to be mid seventies maybe. Um, yeah, there's a lot a lot to

break down there. So we will put our heads together after the show and figure out who would be a great person to converse with on the Vikings. So check that out on Wednesday show and we dive deep on the Vikings and are continuing Wheel of Team series. All right, what do we learned to We learned that I'm going to be in the Messenger. That's huge. God, that's the first in the podcast. Got the phone call we learned

in real time. Don't think that was a setup. That was completely um an authentic moment there, and we'll see if that gets me the front cover. But it sounds like at the very least I'm getting inside the pages of the Messenger, which is a dream in itself. It's just interesting because you said you wouldn't do it, but you did not bring that up to them that you wouldn't do it unless that was one of your you said, demand like requirements to do it. You are getting. That's big.

The photo is big. Yeah, I need to It certainly seems to be trending in the right direction, and I have to find a way in a somewhat delicate manner to um find out about the front page. If you had done that on the podcast, that would have been one of my all time favorite. I mean, I think the content will will suggest to the editorial staff of the gate Still Messenger, No, you don't put this on B two if there is even a B section to that paper. I mean, you put it front and center

of that eight page newspaper. You don't put anywhere else. You gotta deliver. I mean, you've been on the other side of it as a as a reporter, sometimes you need that subject to give you some gold. Guess what I got on the holster. I got the six shooter on the steel horse, and I got gotta change the name the slogan of the town to the spur Capitol

of the world. That's like, if you need a pull quote, if you want a front page headline, you got this outside or this cowboy company from another uh you know, another town, another dusty highway, and I'm spitting that truth at them and making them change the way they think. I think that could be my ticket to the front page.

I mean, you're you're a pied piper figure year and I could only imagine you, like after the interview and that, or after the papers released and people have digested the Q and A, you know, just waltzing into the local tavern and just everyone doing one of those standing emotional sort of standing ovations Dead Poets Society type thing where you've brought you've shined a light um where it's been needed. You will could be putting that with pushback that I

could be I could be vilified for it. The young will the young will they will. It will resonate with the young. Al right. So that's coming up on Friday, on the same day that we are of course bringing back the Around the NFL broadcast on NFL Network. So check that out. Uh uh six pm Eastern, three pm Pacific. All right, that's it. This is Dan hands is signing off for Patrick Claiban. Pick up the claibonn Check out

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