Free Agency News + Sensible Transactions for Those with a Refined Palate

It's Morden somewhere. It's around the NFL. From the Chris Whistling podcast studio, I Don Huns is joined by the lads Craig Rosenthal and I am Mark Sel And it's me hope that we are a great way from the hills of the cemetery. But if the Lord does decide that it is our time, it's good to have a grave digger at points amazing Patty Saint Patrick's everybody, how you celebrated, you know you will be. I will be um.

My mother side of the family is Irish and we will be having some guinness after this, throwing some cornhole, which is not an Irish activity. But we're gonna have some fun in the front yard. With some neighbors and enjoy it. Um how about you guys. I mean I left my abode and notice that there was already a string of venues um overflowing it like six am, with you know, the variety of individuals drinking their green beer.

And I thought, well, I'm gonna go do the work part of this day and then I might go see how that figures out later with it. It's definitely a holiday. I think I feel the difference of living in New York, which different two years and here the most. But my parents are coming to town tonight, so you know that will really tie when they get here again. I love that you're gonna have a pint of Guinness, a tall one. I mean they're getting rather late fighting that lax traffic.

Um man. We I would love to do a live show in Ireland, and that is a goal, a personal goal of mine that we can get there. We have a great fan base over on the Emerald Dial. I think I've shared some memories on the show of my trip to Ireland as a teenager when I went to the Waterford Crystal factory and they told everybody, oh, this is the Super Bowl Trophy, and I was like, no, it's not, because it was really actually the NC Double a championship trophy, but it was cute. They didn't know

any better. Yeah, And then I think about this bus that we rode up and down the countryside from north to south, and it was piloted by this very ruggedly handsome older gentleman named Tommy O'Reilly, and we all kind of fell in love with him because he had that charm that you're looking for from your Irish tour bus. And I'll never forget what he said at the end of the trip that we all were just melting in his hands at that point, and he went, all right,

it's toime. I have to return to me small wife and a large family. And we were like, oh, Irish people are the best. That's his true identity, you believe, Tommy O'Reilly. Yeah, I mean, I mean it could have been like Herb Solowitz or something possibly a ruse, but no, it sounds authentic. Um. All right, so let's get to the National Football League matters. This is our fourth podcast of the week. I believe it's our eighth show of the last two weeks. Yeah, yeah, and that's for a reason, right, Mark,

This is a big period in the calendar. These are the weeks when when you dig in and like, that's why you work on Saint Patrick's sayin I think we typically work on every holiday and we're continuing that that effort to remember last Saint Patrick's Day what we were doing on the show Little Watson, it was the day I do we we also essentially we had done another show and then we left to be free and then it was like a all hands on deck, we have to announce we have to talk about this guy again.

For Lacia and I were sitting in a bar in uh els Ugundo and then a text came over the wire that had gone down Watson to Browns, and we did a thirty minute podcast that was our most listened to show of all time in the history of the podcast, A Dark A Dark Corner. So do we want him just to keep getting traded and moved around? Is would that help us? Ultimately? I don't know. Let's go, let's get a Lamar Jackson trade later today to ruin the

rest of our day. All right, So we're gonna go through all the news and we will before we sign off. But now that you know, free agency is really settling in a lot of transactions. How many guys are left Greg in the top like twenty or so of your original one on one. I believe there are only four players in the top twenty five. And that's just from Monday.

If you went back to the original one where it's Gino and Lamar and whatnot, it would be like and even lower number four or four of the top four or the four Just that A curious Chauncey Gardner Johnson still out there. Odell who supposedly wants twenty million dollars a year. I think that explains why he's not finding Bobby Wagner, who was pointed out to me waited a long time last year to sign, maybe not in a hurry, wants to figure out which there are whispers that he

could return to Seattle. Seattle also Palaces. I think those are probably the two most like. And then Dalton Salts. No love for Dalton Salts out there. You know why loaded tight end draft class. I wonder if that's hurting his market. Yeah. I may mention Dalton Schultz later in the show because we're gonna share some It's a segment Grave Digger that I call sensible transactions for those with a refined positional Powell. So it's not just willy nilly

right throwing darts. No, we've surveyed the landscape and we're gonna try to match up some players to teams. Only something like thirty three of the one oh one since Monday even are available. I mean, the NFL does not wait around anymore. It's over quick, all right. Let's get

to the news that broke late Wednesday. The Bengals made a big move on their offensive line, signing left tackle Orlando Brown, formerly of the Chiefs, four years, sixty four million, a major move for the team, and he has blocked Brown for Lamar Jackson in Baltimore, Mahomes in Kansas City, and now he's going to take over as the left tackle. This is one of those Domino moves because the left tackle previously in Cincinnati was Jonah Williams, who he thought, oh,

maybe they'll kick him to the right side. Lall Collins gets traded or released and it works that way. Well, then Jonah Williams comes out greggy and says, well, get me out of here. I'm a left tackle. People see a move. These tackles really want to play left tackle. It's like the sexy premier position I get. I guess that's a big part of because Jonah Williams before the draft said I do not want to move to guard. I only want to be drafted by a team that it's going to take me as a left tackle. The

Bengals ended up doing that. Orlando Brown's the same way, where he did not want to play right tackle. He wanted to find a team that would play him there. I don't think Jonah Williams is going to have any trade market. He's due twelve point six million dollars guaranteed this year. He's coming off a dislocated kneecap in a bad year, so I think he might end up battling for that right tackle spot in the end because he

might not have a choice. They're talking about keeping Lyle Collins and Williams and just having depth, which considering all the injuries, makes some sense. I love the move. I love the Bengals not standing pat, you know, and their offensive line was better last year, but it wasn't amazing, certainly not at left tackle. And I like that they found pretty good value too with the price deck Yeah,

the contract. I love it for Cincinnati and it's like you knew we are looking at big money for Joe Burrow, for Jamar Chase, for t Higgins. But I love them pouring more money into the line because as much as they tried to do that last year, we saw the chaos that unfurled towards the end of the campaign when

you lost a bunch of guys. So it's like, if you want to keep Lyle Collins, if you want to keep Orlando Brown, if Jonah Williams is untradeable, why not stack player on top of player and basically not allow for that to happen. To get depth, Yes, really this contract. Like I'm a little surprised they got him for this. I mean he turned down a much bigger offer, a longer, six year deal from the Chiefs. I wonder how he

feels about all this. Well, you know, at least he has an agent, because the agents are infallible, they can't ever lose. Setting the table for for this scenario just saying yeah, the Chiefs. I think the offer was five for ninety one last year. It's very guaranteed and a little bit frontloaded, where it's really a three year, fifty million dollars deal, but basically the same type of deal Nate Solder got for the Giants about five years ago, So a little surprising. Are you going in the interest

of fairness as a journalist? Are you going to when there are deals that seem player friendly, you're going to point out that the agent did a good job, um

when their player friendly. Oh, I mean, I think I don't plan to be fair now, Okay, I mean, but like the guys that are out there now, Like the guys that are out there now, like a Chauncey Gardner Johnson for the most part or assaults, it's because they there, you don't have the value that they their expectations were, and so I think Orlando Brown probably had to pivot expectations were, but he did quite well in the end. This from Seth Walder, who's a good follow. He's with

ESPN and their analytics department. John Williams Fyi's twenty five years old left tackle that has played for some big teams. But his pass block win rate last season amongst tackles have qualified fifty fifth of sixty four. His run block win rate, well, at least he's good at that note forty fourth of sixty four, So this is a potential big upgrade here for Cincinnati, and uh, we were just talking about it on our last show. It's like, hey, no, Angles,

let's get yeah, let's do something that. This is a big move and it makes them potentially a lot better at really a vital, vital spot. Considering it felt like a lot of people were leaving Cincinnati. But where they stand right now, it's they've got their entire coaching staff coming back. You could have lost both coordinators that was in the mix, they didn't, and twenty one of twenty five starters and one of the new faces is Orlando Brown.

That's a good point. Mark Jamar Chase te Higgins, Like, oh, there was talking about Higgins leaving. He's not leaving. Tyler Boyd, he hasn't left yet. Joe Mixon, I'm still waiting for that to possibly happen. But Sam J. P. Ryan's gone, and maybe they're gonna keep mixing after all, Layout Collins, like they did resign Jermaine Pratt. They need help in the secondary, so they have issues. But I really love this move, especially because I think it's going to help

their ground game too. I mean, Orlando Brown, the rep on him is like good enough pass blocker, played really well in the Chiefs championship run. I think at the fans were upset some of the talk about them in the coaching staff maybe a little upset with Brown's play first half of the year. Awesome down the stretch, and I think they'll be able to run the ball better with him. And what does this mean for the Chiefs, Well, they've got Juwan Taylor. They gave him big money. The

talk is that he's gonna play left tackle. I mean, he got possibly a better contract than Orlando Brown, which is a little surprised. I think he gets sixty million in his first three years, forty in the first two. But there is still this buzz that they might be in on Laramie Tunsil, and my god, if they find a way to afford Laramie Tunsil. So Juwan Taylor's at

right tackle, Tounsil's at left. Wow, Yeah, I think it's Casey's time to make a move because the AFCs were talking about especially now you're gonna Rogers entering the picture. With the Jets. This is a really competitive conference. They lost Juan Thornhill was an important part of their secondary. Now they lose their left tackle, lost ju Ju I mean they need they need some things. Yeah, they've lost

they lost both tackles to Andrew Wiley left. They do have Lucas Niang, who is a third round pick who's played for them, who I think they are probably looking at like Taylor replaces Brown and they'll they'll survive if they don't have to pick up a big name. But man, that would be amazing if they got tonsil Um. In other news, the defending NFC champion Eagles, it looks like Darius Slay was on his way out of town. It even was reported that that was what was going on

a couple of days back. He went on to the top one o one and you know, in the top twenty, and I don't know if he ever technically was a free agent. Well, it all offends with him sticking with the Eagles on a two year, forty two million dollars extension through two thou and twenty five. So he stays there. And now you have Sleigh Bradberry together moving forward strung. Yeah, you I mean you also retain Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox

were a week removed. I think Rashad Penny, if he stays healthy, is an upgrade over Miles Sanders and could be in for like a monster season in that offense. So Howie Roseman, the Eagles, they always find a way, and you know, I there must be These are players that obviously we talked about the Nick Sirianni experience in that locker room, the way that the reason the players

responded to him. It's like when you get guys coming back like this, it just tells me they believe in what's happening entirely, and why shouldn't they, But us essentially are running it back like what there could have been a massive sea chains for a new defensive coordinator Seawan to say. Instead, he's got a lot of the same faces and they do run similar elements to last year's defense. And you have two first round picks, which is nice.

The number ten overall pick, Gardner Johnson is the one to see if they bring him back, then it really feels like everyone's coming back. And it sounds to me like it's Eagles or Broncos, which led by Sean Payton, Gardner Johnson's old coach, so he didn't have a problem with Gardner Johnson at one point in free agency. And this is dangerous. You know, the socials. Gardner Johnson just followed like nine or ten different Broncos and the Broncos

organization and everyone got all excited. But he's still He's still unsigned to bread Grum though. I mean, yeah, I think he thought he was going maybe. I don't know. I'm looking at because everybody loves Penny's potential. I'm just looking He started eighteen games in the list or play appeared in eighteen games in the last three years. They brought Scott back Boston Scott Kenny Gainewell played more snaps in the Super Bowl and played quite well throughout those

playoffs backfield, then Miles Sanders. So I think Gainwell is kind of their one A or one B, and that wouldn't be surprised if they bring in someone too that was This is exactly what I'm talking about. I mean the Bay Street All Stars or wherever hell that is. I was. I was just disappointed um that it's on a New York City doesn't have verses. But then I

got an idea. So I love challenging are listeners because they're very musically inclined many of well, some of them, but because they are a large pool to pick from. It seems like all of them of our listeners are musically inclined, but like five percent are and we have a lot of listeners people. That's exactly Cessler taking a shot at like Fred sitting in his basement. If unless you're a child with full streams, you know, if you're after O'Reilly took a shot from the book to top

book depository. Now you got Fred taken heat. I mean, I'm just sitting around talking about whistle all over town. I like ord musicians, Um, justin graver, can we provide our listeners access to this song in some way and then let them build out some verses, maybe a bridge getting back to the chorus. See why not, Let's see what we can do, all right, I'll post something first things First, they need to have the raw music to work off, right. All right, that's a fun little project.

Drop that one in the lapse of those listeners. It did really bother you that there were no um really, that's just the chorus. The whole track is only one minute twelve seconds. So challenge to the listeners, that's see what you can do, right. It's basically here's the skeleton, do something with it. Right. Also, I was thinking why don't we have the listeners send in more Colleen Wolf songs? Open it up to what is it? The Aten podcast

at Gmail? Maybe we should have another um so on competition. Patrick, to all the listeners out there making music for us, is you gotta make your own music? You can't steal an instrumental bad off the wet internet somewhere. We can't run those. But if you but if you make your own music and you submit us, that'll be awesome. Angry lawyers exactly, Just follow the copyright laws and we'll be all good, all right. The Giants signed wide receiver Paris Campbell,

formerly of the Colts. One year, three million. You get up to seven million if he hits a bunch of incentives. He had a pretty nice season for the Colts, which is significant considering how terrible the Cults were last year um totaling sixty three catches for six hundred and twenty three yards and three touchdowns. That wasn't the only move the Giants made. They bring back Darius Slayton, who's flashed as a wide receiver for them. These aren't big time names.

It does feel like Mark maybe the you know, giving giving Danny Dimes a true number one with Darren Waller there now we're cooking, but this is that's a pretty good crew with Sequan of course back in the fall. Yeah, they sit out there as like maybe crew. Yeah, it's it's but they're missing like that guy that maybe you go trade for him, which I'm not sure who that would be right now, but I think this is a

Giants want to get faster in general. I think at that position Paris Campbell runs a four point three one forty did it the combine? Um, he is a slot guy. But they have one deal Robinson as well, so there's a little bit of redundancy Sterling Shepherd. I mean, they have a lot of guys and they're going to see who works. Isaiah Hodgins is there these moves spelled out

to me? Plus the reporting in New York that like they are not going to be in on OBJ period, they're not going to be spending that much on receivers that the Jets actually, according to Diana Rassini, have been in contact with OBJ. Well. It was demanded. We would assume that this was it was a demand made by the incoming quarterback that he might why not call him

up and see what he will be fine. Yeah, I don't. Actually, I personally, I do think it's amazing to all the years we've done the show that you have to suddenly deal with the foil balls and the ups and downs of Aaron Rodgers personality and it O'Dell it feels and seven primetimes. I don't have demands. I don't. I don't really need Odell Beckham and Aaron Rodgers on this team, right, I'm just gonna put out that. That's my personal You may not get what you need, but you may get it.

Alan Lazar great, Keep Elijah More on the team, do not put it. Don't do not send Elijah More to Green Bay. I could see that happening. I don't do that. I think they have to. The Giants use their first round pick on a receiver, though, it's like, you're really gonna try out this group. Something's coming, I think, and and that's fine. They're at a spot in the draft,

number twenty five. It's not a great receiver class, but there's probably like a four five pack of guys people like, depending on which flavor you like, who are all probably gonna go in the twenty or eighteen to thirty two area. So that feels like it because County on Darren Waller to be your number one. It feels like no. And I also like that Darius Tony trade to me just stands out as one of the They've been a pretty good team in terms of I think under Shane, like

building the roster that to me never really worked. They couldn't get along with him. All right, let's pause right here and take a break. We'll be right back in other news. Matthew Stafford still makes sense to me and others that he might be traded somewhere to a team that's looking to win a Super Bowl, which doesn't feel like the Rams right now. However, the money tells us

more and more that maybe he's not going anywhere. Because Thursday was a deadline day connected to his contract, and since he is on the roster still on Friday, fifty seven million fully guaranteed his thirty one million dollars base salary in twenty four also a twenty six million dollars option bonus now must be exercised. You know, it's a lot of cheddar for a guy coming off of spinal contusion and an elbow injury and entering his late thirties, But this is part of you know, the bill Come

and Do for the rims. He's locked in. But the bill Come and Do is largely the bill that they were They ordered all the meals last year. Like there's there's an idea that this is all coming from these moves they made. No, they signed cup Stafford and Donald in twenty twenty two, and they signed him basically knowing they're going to have him three more years or else. And yeah, Stafford will be what turning thirty seven by

the end of this deal. But if they were to trade him, I just like, because this is funny, if they were to trade him for some reason right now, they would have a trillion dollars. They would take a fifty four million they not even just the dead the dead money would be seventy four million, and they would have fifty four million dollars less available. So I think we can rule out the trade if it was going to happen, and I did actually ask around a little bit if it was, if there was any chance for

it would have had to happen before this. Yeah, the money's in his banks. This basically ended it. Like, I think there was a chance that if he was going if someone really wanted him. You could move him before today, and it wou'd been in a different situation. He would have been a perfect sensible Jet pivot if Rogers last Friday, instead of saying Jets, I want to play with you, I don't want to play with you, or I'm going

to retire. That would have made a lot of sense and the next six days would have been very interesting. Didn't happen, and I don't see like a natural dancing partner right now. I've been looking up down the list. I don't either. I think where I where I really liked it, and they can't do this unless they want

to take that. You would get that. It'd be eighteen point five million dead money over this season in the next three if you could move him for a really high ransom price in August, if you lost a quarterback. I kept saying that with Jimmy g last year. But it's like if someone got super desperate and they were like, we are a super Bowl team, you could sell Matthew Stafford and as a concept and get something in back.

I mean they are in rebuild mode. They're just not moving Matthew Stafford because you said build, why move away? I think It depends where it's not intentionally, just where it comes in the sentence. It was so nice when you said, Rubb build. I'll focus on that from here on out. I'll try to correct then. Sorry, God, you want to finish that. No, I'm kind of like, I think, I think, I don't. I think the rams like want to move on from all these dudes in a way

and cut it down even deeper. They just can't. Sometimes the bit and the end of the take perfect symmetry, perfectly. Um, you know who else is looking to move on? The Vikings are? They seem like they're done with Dalvin Cook. They resigned running back Alexander Madison to a two year,

seven million dollar contract. There's been a lot of reporting around from people that cover the Vikings that Minnesota would be open to moving Cook off the roster potentially be a release, but he has a shoulder surgery that was complicating things. But anyway, the pell raiser, I said, the pell raiser, where the raiser? Where's he based? Minnesota? I believe it's where he's been. That's been a lot of

issue for us as well. It's not like he's walking around the NFL network offices where we could you know come up to him at the water cooler and we got your nickname? Do you want to hear what the major branding oportunity that we are literally doing the legwork on your behalf right? It is impossible to communicate with people who aren't face to face these days. Can't do

it impossible. No technological advancements were made anyway. Pel rays are reported about the Madison deal and now we'll find out greg if Dalvin Cook is indeed heading the Vikings are in transition, there's no doubt about it. Yeah, that's why more news is coming. Like the day luge of like daily podcasts in a huge waterfall is over. But like the Vikings are one team. I don't know what else is coming because I think a Cook releases coming. We know a Harrison Smith's gonna stay. There's a little

bit of a surprise. So they did a nice job to take a haircut. He did. He did take a pay cut. Adam Field's a free agent, so he's expectedly. But there's some weird things bubbling here. Zadaria Smith wanted out. He's still there. Marcus Davenport, which was widely reported as signing with the Vikings, was not present with the rest of the free agents as they introduced him in Minnesota.

So if you go to our lads dot com, uh, he's on the depth chart, but officially he is not on the Vikings And there's some talk of like maybe they have to make another move to make room for one Davenport or maybe it's one of those moves that changes as the week changes. It seems like they are one of the few teams that are really so close to the cap that like every move has to have an accompanying move with it. Harrison Smith said what there

was reporting that he stayed out. He took a haircut because he was genuinely intrigued with Brian Flores and what he brings. He's also been there since two thousand Twelvey probably is like kids in school, who knows, you know what the statue. Maybe he also noticed the the NFL uh though that top thirty two rankings of team facilities and whatnot, Vikings number one on the list boom. One of the things people liked, h was all the free food they you know, I think that was pretty common

was free food. But the facilities were very nice. But Byron Murphy, who came from Arizona signed there. Guys are millionaires, I know, but it does make a difference. You just the tuna fish sandwich is free. So I am taking a haircut to stay with the virus. I really just assume NFL cafeteria is provided food. It's just like a pain. You gotta go to the computer station. You gotta most

teams swipe the cart and that to that point. Byron Murphy arrived from Arizona today and they asked them about that's the right thing, and he was and he said, well it's like and now it's all you can eat. He was like so happy living life that in Arizona he would have to pay for his lunch. Here all he gets dark. Elsewhere in the NFC North, the Bears entered free agency with a ton of money. They're spending it. They signed Donta Foreman, P J. Walker, and Robert Tanyan

Bobby Tanyan. As they keep spending mark, I like Tanyan paired with cole Comet, you suddenly have DJ Moore, Darnell Mooney, Chase Claypool, Donta Foreman, Khalil Herbert, Like this is suddenly, and the Bears just went and did it. There are pieces of around justin fields, and they went and got the number one wide out when there may not be one in the draft that fits them. Andrew Billings was another defensive tackle who'll be a rotation guy for them.

I'm just like counting the numbers they've signed the most people and the most potential starters. You could beat them in the falcon you can count five or six. And it was important, I think, to get p J Walker in the building because now you have the chance to bring back the greatest play of two thousand and twenty two. Jay Walker to DJ Moore. They traveled to Chicago together. Oh my god, he loved the blazon. Do you have that? That would be a big ask, not handy. You're gonna

site the play, right, I mean, let's listen to it. Z. I'm just making this up as I go at planning. I mean, I think definitely zz I can put it in the show and posting no one would ever know. St We're gonna leave all this in and then here is the play. Yeah. Three man takes the snap, drops back, rolls to its left. He's flushed loads up airs it deep down field for d J Moore behind his bed. How did that happen? Oh my goodness, touchdown, Caroline. This is amazing, jazz Man, great job, Grave. It was a

great play. I remember that was a memorable moment from the season. Um, how in love you were with that play? Which was me? And it was also it was rolling left and threw it sixty seven yards to win the game. I mean, yeah, we don't p J. Walker's playing a lot. The bears are all right, let's hit some odds and ends, odd ends, odds and ends. Can everybody tell your friends? Is anyone else disturbed by that? It is starting to disturb something settling about it their track. I think that

took it somewhere ominous. There's too many colleagues, feels now kind of like similar to like an ayahuasca trip and you're running through a forest and all these colleens are chasing you, and they all have knives, all of them. But it's almost Colleen's head on a doll's body chasing after you. Anybody else getting out? Yeah, and we were keeping you off the hallucinogenics during this watching Wednesday on Netflix.

I should add that that has added that is the best thing about that show, Like from a plot standpoint, it's not really geared toward me. The lead performance is excellent, as I've stated, Uh, the actor is tremendous, but it's Burton. I know you're a real cinephile mark that Burton got at all. But I would say, I've watched the World makes the first two and a half episodes of Wednesday, and I'm with you. I think the show's uh got legs. Tim Burton Beetles, very rewatchable. Beetle just holds up. I

would say I've seen it recently. I've actually not seen it, so I shouldn't. I'm not sure I've never That's number one. That's literally not my type of movie. So I like I went out of my way to notiss their hands. I could see maybe wun't say their hands ever. See Peewee's Big Adventure, his directorial debut, that I would say the classics that transcends Tim Burton, big Fish, a little bit of math here, a little molled Batman, he changed, I think tire World. Tim Burton's was that not Batman too.

I believe like it was like he was an disaster. He ever a movie named ed Wood. You're thinking of who drove the Batman? Franchise, and I believe I believe Burton's Batman. I literally did not like from these sequel Batman too. At least the original he did. The original was great. I have no problem with the original. Like I'm not saying, it's just like, you don't tag me as a Tim Burton guy, which happens on this shows, Like I am, I'm forcibly telling you you're as Tim

Burton guy. We could have gone and I got you know. Sometimes, yeah, thank you? Jin Batman Returns is very dark. It's like, why can't we get a show under seventy seven minutes? Yeah? Where are you Burton heads out there? Comfort me? I don't want to hear about it. By the way, Cooper Rush is back with the Cowboys. That's good. You like Cooper Rush. Devin Bush a linebacker, and Julian Love the safety to the Seahawks. They've been very active and they had a lot of pretty good like under the radar

cheap moves are the Seahawks? I love that question. The Dolphins bringing old friend Braxton Barrios. He is all over the afcast and then now it's signed from Miami. The Steelers cut ties with Miles Jack the former second round pick of Jacksonville who's now bouncing around a little bit. And uh, that is well. They they signed to London Roberts too. The Steelers because you don't have Devin Bush, you don't have Miles Jack, so you're kind of starting

over at the position. Dolphins also got a old Patriots probo hunter jack Jake Bailey, who had fallen on hard times. A lot of receivers there. I could see Braxton Barrio us having like one big moment in Miami. I liked Wris He's a charismatic guy. He also had the biggest drop of the season for New York in the end zone on fourth down in Minnesota. Now that's part of the package with Mike White playing his guts out in that game and cost him that game and they never

recovered after that. But I hope he does well. He's like their fourth receiver. You got Cedric Wilson there too. All right, before we take a break, let's check in with some best of moments from the opening press conferences across our league, starting with Jordan Poyer, who resigned with the Bills. I know I said some stuff about the taxes. I think we can all agree that We're like, what the hell? Like, Yes, I mean sorry, I said it.

I said, I said the truth. I like that. How about Jalen Ramsey on the thoughts that he slipped a little bit on the field as a player in twenty twenty two. You gotta cut on the field now, yeah, really, you gotta really watch it. You gotta really watch it. You know, you know, you don't become this successful, you know,

without actually doing good things on that field. How about Jacoby Myers, now wide receiver of the Raiders, talking about a very infamous play with the Patriots at the Raiders home field and last year, you know the one I'll be the guy that addresses the question about what happened here last year. I was waiting on that. I was waiting waiting on thank you. I appreciate you, man, Thank you take us through you know, your thoughts about your teammates.

You're already giving you a little bit of crap about it and how Portance view to create new memories in Las Vegas story. I mean, now that that was a that was a humbling experience, you know, as a man, as a football player, that was that was just tough. You know, I knew what it meant to the team that I was on at the time, and so it really hurt me because, like I said, family is really big for me. So when I went through it in

the moment, my heart was broken, you know. But days after, just seeing how guy's kind of rather around me, it built me up as a person. So now I know, like, whenever one of my teammates mess up, who I want to be in that situation. You know, that's a good answer. That's a qualities I'm seeing you have a you're a tough situation and you turn it into something positive. That's sort of I view then of integrity. Absolutely. Yeah. So I loved Jacobe Myers. Was sad to see him go. Yeah.

I think he's maybe a better player than jujusmis Schuster, But whatever. How about Alan Lazard, new wide receiver of the Jets and an ongoing weird situation doing a press conference talking about a guy a quarterback that isn't actually on his team right now. But it is a strange situation leverage gate. But they didn't seem like they were going to miss me too much, had a strong inclination that I was going to be my last season. Then interesting,

that's all a little interesting Lazard. We still haven't seen all the specifics, but got at least like an equal contract to any wide receiver. He does have the trace a lot. He looks like a number one receiver, but the numbers aren't any better than than Jacoby Myers. It might have been in the man sheet. He may him the highest paid his Packers players feeling like the team's not into them while they're playing for them. Not a good thing, not a great set. How about Derek Carr,

new face of the New Orleans Saints. I just want to provide um, you know, leadership, you know someone that's gonna love their teammates. I'm not coming in here to try and take anything over. Like I'm not taking anything over. I'm gonna be me and I'll block you on Twitter if you say anything against what I believe about. Well, No, I just a little little sensitive. Mins. I think you hate Derek Carr. I do not at all. I think actually I gave him appropriately immense credit for I handled

two seasons go with the Raiders. They did him wrong, and I wish him well. But there's something about the Derek cart the podium thing that I find a little bit artificial. At Ton I just double check them. I doubt he was like on top of my top one of one rankings, but I was worried after ranking Dana Jones. I think ahead of him one spot. But no, it's not blocked. Still, he's like that guy that played Elvis in the movie Austin Butler. Austin Butler, where it's like,

where is this accent coming from? Is this how you talk? Is this an affect Derek Carr? Well, no, in the movie, yeah, he does the Elvis voice, and then he started doing the press junkets Butler, I feel like I'm talking a lot Hollywood lately, um, and he kept the Elvis accent. And then people started pulling junkets pre Elvis and he talks like a regular dude. And then they pulled the post Elvis shoot and now he talks like he lives in Graceland. Well, I mean, yeah, I think that he

got Well there's that. There's Brian Kelly who did that when he went to LSU. He's like Carr's accent. You think it's fake. I think there's some type of where is he from? Like Central California is kind of a different place. I don't know what the accents are like there, but it's it's different sometimes like that one was a little toned down. But sometimes he'll have like a twang

in his voice and it's like, where are you from? Bro? Well, it would be nice to see him traded to like the Northeast at some point and then he can adapts a a'san Bakersfield I think is very set up shop. Okay. And finally we have Orlando Brown, new left tackle of the Cincinnati Bengals. Just, you know, for him to believe in me as a left tackle was enough and uh, you know, man, I'm willing to put my life on a lot for that. Boom. Now I feel good about

that guy. Yeah, these guys want to play the position that they were born to play. He was really making me laugh talking about how he met with Marvin Lewis and the pre draft process. Supposedly the Bengals were going to take him potentially, that's what a lot of people thought. And he mentioned some memories of that process, including when Marvin Lewis asked him what the capital of Spain was and his answer was Portugal and he says, I really blew,

I really blew that one. He always wondered if that's why he didn't get drafted by the Bengals. I don't think that question. What is the capital of Spain? But Rids? Okay, Oh, one more Jimmy g on how coming to the Raiders affects him from a sartorial sense. It's really cool. It really is. Uh, just get to wear black, all black. I mean, that's that's one of the coolest parts of it. I think. I know it sounds cliche, and I'll tell

you what. He did look good in black and that opening pressor there's a chefter put out a you know, a picture of him with like his amazing suit and like holding the Raiders jersey, and he his whole countenance in the way that his hair is done, in the shades of his hair and everything. It kind of just all fits. Not on it's going to fit on the field, but like he looks good and that Raiders get up. Absolutely.

You know, we were debating if we have different feelings about Jimmy ju I mean that had the little logo on it. Look that would make more sense, but it was it did all look very Raiders esque, and I think he had the look down and you know, Daddy likes Mommy. Daddy doesn't like daddy. But I could tell you that, man. Thanks, Yeah, I yeah, I just I think I see him as like I don't. Everyone seems to think he's a little hotter than I think he is,

but who am I to judge? Thank you, daddy. All right, let's take a break and throw out some moves that would make sense. The National Football League's free agency period is underway, and now we, as analysts of the sport, are here to offer sensible transactions for those with a refined palette in such matters. What does that mean? I'm not sure. I think what I mean is I don't just go with look at what the team, the teams that, what they've done so far, what are still who's available

or potentially available? What makes sense fiscally? Let's make the listen and they're smarter, Greg, And that's why I were

starting with you. No, I think we should start with you because sometimes with these segments, I don't even totally know that there's going to be beautiful classical music and sensibility, and I feel like I want my leader, my host, my co host, Oh you always happen almost happening to show me where he's going with this, all right, you could take it down now, all right, I'll throw it out there, A sensible transaction for those with a refined

positional palette. The New England Patriots, all right, what have they done so far? We talked about they decided to move on from m Jacoby Myers. And you know you don't think that had anything to do with the play, do you? No? No, no, right, no, But it was so embarrassing for Bill. Do you think there's part of him that would be like, I can't have anything that reminds me of that around me. Ever? Again, no, I didn't sense it with this particular player. But who wouldn't

I mean out there? I mean, did did they get rid of Ellis Hobbs after he gave up that touchdown to Plextico Burris in the Super Bowl? Maybe I did keep Rodney around. I mean, there's been some embarrassing moments that would be justin after the pick six Tennessee Titans in the AFC Wildcard playoffs. Tom Brady wasn't around no more after that? Who had that pick six? I know, you know, justin Logan Ryan, who went to play with

Tom Brady in Tampa Bay, Oh, interesting. That was the friend where he was going to the puppy farm every week with the daughters. Yeah, Logan, Ryan's a big charity revolving around saving and he's like, and I never told anybody about that until I retired and then we needed some puff pieces about post retirement. Now it was I am as a man. It was Ryan's wife who did it. See now you're just making up fact. It was Logan

Ryan's wife who did that. Sounds good kind person. He was playing the long game on the puppy He just knew that he would do that. It was gonna get out eventually. It's Tom Brady at a puppy mill. You're just sitting on it, so I'm not He's not gonna say it, but he knows eventually we'll get out and they'll be like and Tom never even said anything about it. It's like a double win anyway. Um So the Patriots

they have Juju in the building. They have Bill O'Brien as the oc U. Mccarkell Jones is back at quarterback. Mike Gasecki is signed the tight former tight end of the Dolphins. That is definitely somebody that can make up play with the ball in his hands. Um, But there's something missing here and I mentioned on the last show, but now I'm going to play it. And thank you to HBO NFL Films. This was a pregame conversation between Bill Belichick and a certain former All Pro wide receiver

of the Arizona Cardinals. Glad we only have to play you every four years. Man, Hello, you kind of career, your out miss half the season is still gonna be the league and receiving this. I gonna do my job, man, Yeah, better he's gonna like that one. I do love as as Belichick ages, and as I age, I do love Bill more and more. I think him not going to the Super Bowl every year is helping as well. Yeah,

being like a walking eight and nine is helping. But yeah, that I think there's something to take out of that. That was this past season and now they need a number one ride receiver to kind of cap off this like reboot of the offense. It makes so much sense for the Pats to send you know, second third round pick maybe a second uh to bring in new Copkins and then once you have Nuke in there, Greggy, I think,

as Pats fan, you're really feeling pretty good. Then you're looking at the roster and you're saying, there's my number one. Juju is a perfect versatile kind of two number two guy you have. Now you're gonna have Gasecki, who can make plays at tight end, and you trust the play calling with O'Brien and his comfortable in the system and knows Belichick and what he wants. And then you're saying Mac Jones year three, make that leap. Yeah, you still

have Hunter Henry two. So Gasecki I think at what something like four or five million a bass salary, we haven't totally learned in some intensives, like he's a second guy. You get DeVante Parker off the roster. Basically, DeAndre Hopkins is a much better version to me of DeVante Parker who's still there. Taekwon Thornton had some speed, second round pick Kendrick Bourdon sitting around. Yeah, I don't think that would be their big weakness. And I totally agree. They

can't draft receivers. They're famous for burning their second round picks year after year. It's just been like a bad luck round for them. Let's just use it on a guy, you know, we'll have one or two years. Yeah, there's there's a little fly in the ointment though, because first of all, I think, like Mike Kisiki was recruited by Bill O'Brien to play at Penn State, so I see why that fit happens, like as an upgrade over Johnny Smith. Bill O'Brien did not end things well with DeAndre Hopkins

trained into Arizona. I mean, I'm sure all that stuff that can be pretty much fixed. But yeah, but is it going to stop a deal? Well, I don't think Bill O'Brien's gonna stop a deal, but I just I think also that it really really fits. And I mean, I think when Billichick likes a player, it goes back to when he scouted him, probably before the draft process, and he admires some of these guys so much that

I think it still would be true. But the Bill O'Brien thing is just sitting out there as something that DeAndre Hopkins might think about sensible that that could be a fly in the ointment. But I would think Belichick, I mean, who would you rather have Greg, DeAndre Hopkins, or Bill O'Brien as an offensive coordinator? You already had Bill O'Brien. Well, I'm just saying like Bill's playing chess here.

If he was looking at my offseason plan and he's like, I want Nuke on my team, would he bring in Bill O'Brien if you thought that that would Nuke a chance to get Nuke. I don't mean these guys can make it up with one conversation and move on. I mean, I don't know if he's playing mousetrap. With the way he hired his offense to the coordinator last year, I'm starting to wonder, But trap, I don't trying to think of a very basic game. Actually it does talk a

lot of work setting up Tiddley wins. That's Pong Pongo mouse trap. Half the fun was, you know, putting all the pieces together. Then then it became less. It's more like, but you're going through the motions. I like that, all right, that move sensible, I think for a refined pal Okay, now, and I didn't know if you were going to like extend the whole thing, I would give your heads up. This is this is all about ball, Okay. I'm gonna

talk about the Denver Broncos and their receiver situation. When a team puts receivers on the market, in this case, Jerry Judy and or Courtland Sutton. Interesting that it's like either or like, yeah, that doesn't happen. History tells us eventually that guy's getting moved. It's like Darren Waller on the market last trade deadline, eventually got moved. And now we're here in reports. Well, the Broncos were just getting offers from other people, and now they're thinking they wanted

a first round pick, plus they're gonna hold on. Just put a pin in this. Let's come back around draft time and let's make a trade for Jerry Judy, who doesn't have a long term, guaranteed salary like Courtland Sutton. So I think is a little more tradeable, and there's a host of teams that could put them on. The Cowboys would be flashy, but you know who needs them even more and still plays in the NFL. How about the Carolina Panthers. You just traded your best receiver in

DJ More. Your number one receiver right now is Teras Marshall. You're gonna have to play football. And I think Jerry Judy can fit a timeline of a young team getting better. He's still younger. Let's send a I don't know, a second round it makes a ton of sense. They're now the team without the number one, and like I thought, the Browns are a target. They are missing some people at that position, and it's like, what did you do all this for? If you're not gonna like surround to

Shaun Watson with a ton of weapons. They don't have a lot of wide receiver, but I think the Patriots thing with Andre Hopkins doesn't happen, Like one of these Bronchos wideouts might work there as well. It's like, I'm so with you that the Broncos, I don't care what they're saying. They have broadcast it strongly that these guys, like I didn't Courtland Sun just doesn't really fit what Sean Payton wants to Sun degree. It's like we're moving these dudes. Maybe Sutton would be the guy that they

do move. And I know the Panthers just traded away a bunch of picks. They do have their first, they do have a second and a third, so they're not crazy short. But the Cowboys are another team here that would make some sense to wait it out. Doesn't seem they're ready to get obj. I have my second one is directly connected, so I'll just do it real quick. I all said, Judy. I want to see Judy move to a team where we could cash in on his potential, which I still think is very high, and it's been

almost entirely untapped. Injuries of play a role, but a lot of quarterback dysfunction and organizational dysfunction as well. Since he was in the first round pick. I remember it was him and Henry Ruggs in that draft that were you know, the buzzy wide receiver has taken up top and we know everything that went down with Rugs and

Judy has been disappointing overall. I was looking at the Bills as a team that yeah, we've been talking about like how do you give how do you take Josh Allen now with Brian dabele gun and you put too much on his shoulders and you add some more around him. And we've talked about Derek Henry and I don't know what's going on with Henry and people connected Sequan to the Bills, and so far it's been pretty quiet. I

know Isaiah McKenzie was let go this week. Judy and Judy being unlocked by a talent like Josh Allen with Stefan Diggs on the field with him is very very exciting thought. So that's it's sensible, but also some wishcasting because I do want to see what Judy could do. Yeah, I like it a lot because I think like Judy could suddenly have one of these seasons where it's like, well that was a situation where Denver went through all this chaos, so we didn't see the player. I can

see that. But I'll think if you're the Bills, it's like you are you view yourself. It's like this season right now is super Bowl or bust? Like that guy you get because they do eat that wide and I think like has to be rock solid. I just it seems like a little bit of a you're hoping he'd be that guy. You'd hope he'd fit. He wouldn't be a disappointment. I mean they could be in for any of the big names. Is one of those. Uh, there's some thoughts Odell Beckham might not want to play in

somewhere that cold. I'm I'm with that. Let's make decisions on warmth. I'm with him. You know that's who I want. Those are the Warriors I want. Oh, it's blow fifty. I'm not gonna try. It's hard. I mean, if you've made your money though, like where you live. I think I think that matters. You know, short an NFL career is greg he they have like ten years, even the great guys, maybe twelve or thirteen to give it there. I want twenty million, but it must be in a

tropical environment like it's usually a bit of a red flag. Yeah, all right, I got one for you here. I mean this this final chip to fall as Lamar Jackson, and I think about what happened back on March twenty eighth, nineteen eighty four, when the Baltimore cults in the middle of the night. We always heard about this, you know, when we were young in the early eighties, Like Mayflower Truck exactly, you pack up the trucks you moved to Indianapolis.

Baltimore is left out in the cold. Well, I don't that doesn't help the two teams like each other anymore. But what if we have the odd poetical move of the Baltimore Ravens trading Lamar Jackson to the quarterback needy Indianapolis Colts, who signed Gardner Minshew clearly as a backup and have done nothing else. They're sitting at number four. You can give the Ravens that number four pickback and

they'll probably want a quarterback. But my one thing about the Cults sit at number four and doing nothing is I think you got hop scotched by Carolina. They're obviously going with their guy. Then Houston's going with their a guy. Arizona is a ripe team to trade that number three if someone else wanted to get up against the Cult. Suddenly you are Chris Ballard once again looking at the fourth best guy on the draft board. What you have Shane Steiken, who already did a great job with Jalen Hurts.

You've got other pieces around him. I think there's a lot to like about the idea of Lamar Jackson staying in the AFC, going to a team like Indianapolis that is absolutely going to appreciate them after what they've been through since Andrew Luck retired. It gives them an immediate identity they can found an entire offense around him, and Shane Styken makes so much more sense to me with that situation than trying to start over with the fourth

best rookie in this draft class. Shane Styken's really rocketed up like the reputation rankings, just for me personally, just listening to the impact that he's had with everyone that he's worked with, and I don't think it's just smoke being talked. I would love that. Give me somebody, what's going on with lamar Keith? Is there a better fit than Indianapolis? We heard I heard um a little bit of buzz through an unnamed Diano reporter that just like, okay,

just keep keep an eye. And but it's an eye. I know that there's some some something buzzing, but the fact that no one is reporting any that nothing is reportable out there is shocking. I think one thing that has changed in terms of how everyone is dissecting potential trade. Initially and it was like, oh, they put the non exclusive tag on them, which means whoever is gonna they'll do they will do the contract and then the Ravens can decide, and if they decide they don't want to

do that contract, they'll send the two picks. It's just as much just as likely, if not more so, that it's just more a traditional trade. And in the case of the cults, it's a perfect example because if they're giving you the number four pick. They're probably gonna be like, we're not gonna give you another number one after that. We'll give you a one and maybe a two and maybe a two the next year. But calm down about getting two number ones office if we're giving you a

top five. Yeah, I think that. I think it works for both sides. And that's why I initially thought, maybe, like what if the Texans at with that number two pick and they weren't in love with a rookie. They were the kind of team that could go after Lamar Jackson and reboot everything and they've got it the whole. That kind of fits. You could be Baltimore and say, I don't want two ones from a team sitting down

in the twenties. I want, like the chance to get another quarterback to rob put like Lamar Jackson in the rear view mirror, starting right now, sensible, Mark, I'd like to think, so find Yeah, Greg, you have another one. I'm tapped, So I do. I think that Odell to the Cowboys is so obvious that it feels destined. It feels like it was destined years ago, and yet it feels so necessary. They've invested on the defense. But I'm

gonna throw a different Odell location. I don't think there's that many, and I really do think he can make a difference as a quality two slash one somewhere in between. He's not gonna get that twenty million. Hey, Lanta Falcons, you gotta go win some ballgames this year. Who do you got a wide receiver? You got Drake Lendon. Great job, nice pick. Nice job by you, or of like a physical red zone sideline guy. Very different. I think in type to Odell Beckham. It's warm in Atlanta. That's important.

Play indoor roof. You play indoors, but it's warm when you go outside too. Because I liked the Green Bay idea for Odell just to be like, hey Rogers, now we got Odell. Eat it. But I don't think he would want to go there. Um Chick fil A closing the stadium on Sundays, but it's open the rest of the Yeah, Um, Odell to the Falcons. Just your number two receiver right now, by the way, is twenty twenty one, second round, sixth round pick, Frank Darby. I think outside

you know you don't have a receiver. I'm not trying to slight mister Darby. He's the only one that's been drafted by this regime that's on the roster other than So that's all. That's all I say. Sorry, sorry, missus Darby. You know, the past two seasons on this podcast, I've been pushing against Atlanta when you guys have pumped them up, but they just don't excite me, even though it's not

against Arthur Smith. It just they haven't seemed ready. This is the year where it feels like they should be ready to make a move exactly, and I'm just so like annoyed that they're really gonna go Desmond Ritter and Taylor Heineke. Hypothetically that's what year three all in Falcons is and then we're gonna go get Odell Beckham at age thirty. Man, that's better than not getting him. How about how about get a quarterback? How about you go get Smith? I mean, that's not too exciting. You did

get some defensive pieces. I like they brought back Lorenzo Carter for cheap, Anya mad As a nice signing, Jesse Bates like Kaden ellis okay. You also changes a little bit and at the Falcons get back into that. I think that there was this obviously opening bubble where no one was in on this guaranteed money situation. And then like a team gets back in like the Falcons, they've got a trap again, feel great about then I'd feel

great about the Falcons. But if this is how it's gonna go down, and then I'm supposed to get excited about this team because Beckham, off his second ACL reconstruction at age thirty after missing a year, is going to be the guy that unlocks Desmond Ritter. You know it's suspicious. Go sell to somebody. Yeah, that's all back after this, No, um, anything else. I got a couple of like ideas, we

don't deduct delve deep in them. I will say one thing that Brandon Bean, because we talked about the Bills adding like a rock solid we know what we get here, said that the team has right now just James Cook and Niheim Hines under contract, that they want to add a heavier power style running back to the roster. How about Derek Henry for a I'll say even a third. I think you can get them for maybe a fourth, but a third and bang, you suddenly have an offense

that can destroy people in cold weather. Um. I like this one too as a little just a couple of quick ideas. If the Lions wanted to start over a little bit with like, we know, there's this whole Jared Goff thing. I thought he played great last year. But what if they went and got Lamar Jackson and sent

Jared Goff to the Ravens. There's that? How about this the Packers The minute they get rid of Aaron Rodgers, the sensibility arrows going, that's not that crazy because they have the ammunition number one and they've got in the deal to the raven Okay, I mean, I don't think you keep Jared recern situation. You're discerning his mood. You don't keep Jerry sad if Goff kept getting traded for quarterbacks like that are way better than him. Also totally appropriate.

It's like thirty million what is he making this year? On Green Bay Packers? After Aaron Rodgers, they they stick it to him by getting active in free agency. They signed Dalton Schultz to replace Robert Tonyan. They don't have a lot of tight end right now. And you make a trade to a Bucks team that's looking at dump guys, you get Mike Evans, Dalton Schultz. You've got the cap ram, You've got the picks. I think it's very possible. I also like Adam feel into the Patriots. It just kind

of fits, I thought, because he's white. Basically. Yeah, that was the same thing. Like Andrew van Ginkel visited him as thrade and people are like, oh, that's a Patriots move, and it's like, just say it. Yeah, well we're saying it. I thought the whites are at it again. I thought David staying in Tampa's potentially a sign that Mike Evans will as well. I think Davis just wants to retire as a buck. Uh. They might be in the nine

to eight and everything is great club as well this year. Oh, they would love them some nine and eight if they could get there. They did keep a lot of their players, U Jamal Dean, I was surprised ended up staying there for the most part. They kind of kept the defensive ship together. We do have some developing news. Let's do it justin Graver. Oh, right, work, it's appropriate. Drew Tranquil Uh, who was one of the top ten players still available

on my left us know if it is two overall? Uh, the one player Bill Barnewell said, I overrated the most, so I remember that disagreed with Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs signed him to a one year deal. All right, what will we possibly lead Monday show with now Barnwells on the show? Yeah, the whole show. As I was trying, we're stepping all over. No, no, no, no, that you did it for me. It was good. It was all coming together. Like Drew, I think he's a nice set.

Everybody go ahead. He's a nice little winder. That's a nice little combo there, him and Willie Gay. That's good, all right, good? He went on I r with a knee injury last year. Let's period playmaker. Uh yeah, not tranquill, causing a lot of having good good good. Um. Yes, Bill Barnwell will be on the show. I think we have to talk about what we're gonna be doing Barnewell. But I think a good move would be, let's just read up on Bill's coverage of free agency and just

riff off his thoughts. Yeah, are they behind a paywall? And I would hope not for the paywall? All right, then you could read I honestly, you'd them on to us, and no one will never do that to the worldwide leader. I have too much respect for what they do. Then I'll come over to your house and read it on your laptop. This is my biggest the most yes, you can do that, um the respect I could pay Bill Barnwell. I have that subscription for Bill Barnwell. WHOA. I think

they should I think ESPN should understand them. That's probably true of a number of individuals because his columns are like completely next level. And that's why we're having on the show. Yes, friend of the show Northeastern University alum paywall stretch in other areas not when it comes to I'm sure there's a lot of but I don't care about their plus. I like NFL Plus. It's all over a free agency. That's a great product. We also, uh yeah, have that mail bag. You should just go back and

listen to whatever we answered. You know, we should do another one will soon NFL Plus check that out around the NFL. And that's it for this week of shows. Barring something insane happening. I don't know how much long we have to keep tagging them that way. But you like Lamar Jackson comes down like eleven thirty pm on St. Patrick's Day, that will go well, all right, that's it. This is uh, you're a little weird. Yes, it's happy Saint Patrick's Day. Everybody, have a nice weekend and we

will be back on Monday. Until then, you know what you gotta do. Mark, do you want to say at time? Heed a call, Boom,