Free Agency Frenzy Day 3: Rodgers speaks, Cowboys moves, and much more

best player in franchise history. Happy New Year, everybody, League New Year. That is I I'm Dan Hands. This is the Round the NFL Podcast. I got heroes across the Southland and beyond. Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler Boys. It's debatable, but I think we have one of the best NFL podcasts. Ever. It's not even debatable. I mean today today was a big day for you know, digital media and um, you know we are like the Bart Star or maybe the Brett Farve to Pat McAfee's Aaron Rodgers, how about that, right?

You know you could There are there are reports out there from some of our listeners that are Monday episode that helped kick off this week of Free Agency. If you would, if you were to clock our origin story Dan just after our debate Club Days, which I think is fair, that is a prequel sh that that was episode fifteen hundred according to some reports, I mean, we have to go clock that. But um, that's that would suggest that you've been somewhat successful with a group of people.

I'd hope fifteen hundred episodes is that true? It's there are reports out there and it's on it. That is unbelievable. Wow, that is very cool. I have to say, I'm very proud of us that we've hit that number and all the people along the way, including the great late Chris Westling. That is very cool. Um for me, I think it's very cool that Aaron Rodgers finally made some type of commentary about his future and it involving directly the New

York Jets that story. Of course, we broke it. We defied the idea of Big Roger and said we're going to talk about this story as if it's going to happen, and it did, even though it hasn't. It's weird, it's stupid.

But Rogers was on pat McAfee's show, and before we get to all the news of the official start of the league year in free agency, this was kind of I think the quote that you pull out of it in terms of the newsworthiness of the Rogers McAfee appearance that had half a million people watching live, I think that's what Greggy is referring to. And we launched our Friday Fund show this season to great fanfare and moderate success,

giving us Brett Farve's status. Greg compared to what McAfee's and his team pulled off today, that's a little generous. We're working toward that in that space. We're just starting, but I like that later on us we were here first, the quality of the programming, the consistency. We're like, we're like Bart Starr, how about you know, winning that first Super Bowl. I'm just saying, let's try to get to

five thousand live streamers before you know five hundred. Anyway, here's what Aaron Rodgers had to say to Pat McAfee and half the digital world. I think since Friday, I made it clear that my intention was to play, and my intention was to play for the New York Jets. I haven't been holding anything up at this point, it's been compensation that the Packers are trying to get for me and kind of taking their heels in. So I would just I think it is interesting at this point

to step back and look at the whole picture. So there you go. Greg Rogers is saying, as of last Friday, he made it be known that he was going to return for another season, he wanted to do it with the Jets, and now he's basically just waiting like the rest of us for the two teams to hammer out a deal. And it looks like it's turning into a staring contest between Gouda Kuntz and the Packers and Joe Douglas and the Jets in terms of just how much New York has to give up for a guy that

otherwise there's no market around him right now. So it seems like Green Bay's in a tough spot. In today's conversation that Rogers had with half the civilized world listening doesn't quite help their case. I don't think I don't think it matters the Packers Jets negotiation. They've known this has been the case right for a week, and it's a stare down that I think hurts both teams. Ultimately,

it doesn't hurt the Packers anymore. If anything, the Packers have kind of known this day was coming, probably since he was in the Darkness Retreat and they decided to move on to Jordan Leve. I don't know if they've

planned their off season around it. There's boring cap considerations that the bonus that he has on his contract actually doesn't hit till September first, So they might try to make the case to the Jets that they can stare all the way into the draft if they don't get the prospects that they want, but the contract, I mean the draft picks that they want. But the contract is also part of this. I think Aaron Rodgers leaves out a lot and of what he says and is passive

aggressive a lot of times in what he says. And I think his contract negotiation is absolutely part of this. And that's part of this that we don't know as much about how much money is he going to make for the Jets, how it's going to be structured, that's all complicated. They should figure this thing out, though they can't drag it out another week, can they can they?

I mean, it's it's the kind of. It's the narrative that at this point, like we all we've already announced that it it happened to us, it has to everyone, it has there's these details to hammer out. I don't I mean, I think the Packers, to Greg's point, with that September triggering the bonus situation, like they don't have to do anything in a rush if they don't want, because their future set, they know who their quarterback is

going to be. It's going to be Jordan Lovett. It's not that the Jets are over a barrel or anything, but the Jets are the one that needs Aaron Rodgers right now and have no backup plans. So I don't know if Green Bay has to necessarily rush to the

finish line here. It just has become I think for the observers, for us, a bit of a td A process at this point, because I even found myself sort of drifting off listening to Rogers talk and it's like, finally he's here addressing us, and it's like, but we already this isn't this is an anti climactic march threat, and we already know what the finish line is. So it's sort of in everyone's best interest, Like, can we just you know, cleanse this, move forward and get on

with our lives. I mean the ce poems, you guys spoke of the Aubrey Plaza podcast with Aaron Rodgers. I missed that one. I tune into this one and I'm like, why are you guys so fascinated by what this man has to say? He's boring to me, but I and he has absolutely a level of self satisfaction that is rubs people the wrong way. We're going to hear from Keith Hans this later in the week. I don't think Keith Hans is necessarily a big fan of this player, but he will be if he leads the Jets to

a lot of wins. I think the one of my takeaways just from like the industry side of the story is we were throwing some fly hours at the feet of Trey Wingo as having that he broke the story he didn't like and that's kind of a part of this too, just like and you could say he wasn't telling the truth about pushing back hard against the report from Racini of ESPN that he gave the Jets a list of demands in terms of players, which he pushed back hard and even said that you know held he

told Adam Schefter in a text to lose his number and get lost, and then he posted that there is and you can see it if you're watching it on It was a good example of how Rogers is misleading. She never used the word demand. She said that he had a wish list, and he basically confirmed exactly what she said. But my point being is this that it didn't confirm anything. First of all, Greg, what happened was

with the Trey Wingo situation. His wording was hearing Rogers to the Jets is done, so we all just move forward with it and then become more frustrated when it's still hanging out there days after he sends out that tweet and with the any report. And this is coming from a fan of a franchise that is very beaten down. And I've said it before that how I wish I wasn't a Jets fan because it seems like a lot of fun to like poke fun at the Jets and

their eternal failures. As soon as every Jets fan, as soon as that report came out, they knew what was coming, and that was what was so frustrating about it that it was going to be twisted as this thing. Look at the Jets, Look how pathetic they are, And I just think it's it's important to point out we never heard any other reporting from the big reporter, like a rap sheet or schefter, directly confirming that that was true.

And then Rogers comes out and you hear the other side of the story, and I found it to be to me. And you could say I'm biased, but I believed him. I don't think he's making demands of the Jets, but it doesn't matter because yesterday it was a field day. If people having fun that way, He's Aaron Rodgers. When you say there's certain players that you want, you understand the power that you have in sig Jet. But interesting you're just taking that Greg and you're running with it.

That's a very important distinction to say that these are the players I want. All he said was there are players. They had conversations with me about players, and I gave them my input. That's all he said. But can it be somewhere in the middle, like I don't think he's holding the Jets ransom over getting Odell Beckham for twenty million a year I think he probably said these are we already know for a fact that the Randall Cobb part of it would make a tremendous amount of sense

because that was a sticking point with Green Bay. But from like a more birds eye angle, this is all tiresome to us now. But I'm not really buying the idea that, like the Jets are a laughing stock and all of this, Like if you knew like a two months ago, no matter how the process played out, and it's Aaron Rodgers, So there's gonna be an element of

exhaustion no matter what, because he's talking so much. He doesn't go away and allow us to other than this week in the in the Darkness, which he advertised about his about his um with the subtlety of wrinkling Barnum and Bailey circus. I mean, you know, he doesn't give us a chance to not be tired of him. So that part of it is a little exhausting. But if you knew that one team was going to go get Aaron Rodgers and was the New York Jets, they're winning

this process. I don't think that's a different situation than another team that doesn't want to build around a forty year old quarterback. This is something that I think we got to just get away from for a bit. But it is a major turning point for the New York Jets, and I think they're fans if they're a little annoyed at this point, will come around and the negativity around the Jets will subside when they're giving like six primetime games and let's go see what you can do with it. Yeah.

I think it's also such a big moment in the Packers like organizational history, and we've sort of overlooked that they've been quiet in free agency. They've actually spent the least amount of money so far in free agency, so maybe the Rodgers move is holding up. Yes, they want to get the draft picks to be as good as they can be. I don't think anyone even expects a

first round pick at this point. I think if look, if they got two twos or they got a two and three at this point, and people, people I believe, would say, Okay, that's a pretty good return for the Packers at this point. It doesn't feel like they have a ton of leverage, but it takes hutzpah to do what they're doing right now. They're going to commit a second of guaranteed year to Jordan Love. I believe they'll

pick up his fifth year option. They're gonna want to build an offense around him, They're gonna want to get more weapons for him, and sure Guda Kunst is looking at this and they're everything is the exact same as Brett Farve, like the egos, the way you're massaging the media like it's it's really crazy. The third year all that but Ted Thompson went won a Super Bowl with

Aaron Rodgers and made it happen. They had a big time losing season with Aaron Rodgers first, so it took a little bit of time, but there are legacies at stake here, and in one way, I sort of don't totally, you know, believe everything Aaron Rodgers says, like I don't think he wants the Packers to succeed necessarily, and I don't know if the Packers want hints of six seed, like they are both going to be out for blood trying to win in twenty twenty three, and that makes

it fun Yeah, I don't mind that at all. I did think it was funny and we're going to move off this, but He talks about how when he went into the Darkness Retreat, he thought he was ninety percent retired. Then he came out and he said his wording was, you know, when I was in my Darkness Retreat, when

I came out, something had changed with the packers. And I just wonder if the man, in terms of his self awareness, if he thought, and maybe this is true, maybe it's not just speculation, but I wonder if it ever crosses his mind that something maybe changed with the packers while you were on your darkness retreat, because like, you're talking to the media on a deep level about your darkness retreat and you're talking about this, and you're

talking about that, and maybe that contributed to the packers just being like exhausted and ready to move on. I'm not saying that Darkness Retreat tipped the scales for Green Bay. He seems to think something changed over those four or

five days, but it's just a lot. And I tweeted out an image from the graduate of Dustin Hoffman sitting in the back of the bus after he broke up the wedding and he's riding off with the love of his life and they're sitting on the bus after this hyper dramatic moment where they he stops the wedding and she leaves the church with him, and they you know, block the exit doors of the church with the long cross and then get on the bus and they're in the back of the bus, and then the movie ends

with them smiling but then starting to like the smile disappears and it becomes a look of more like, what did we just do? That's kind of how I feel. Like he's the bride and I'm the Jets fan. You don't know how it's going to turn out, but I'm ready to see it's not going to be boring that I know, no, And then like the thing I don't get though, is and I know we should move on, Like it's pointless to point out his inconsistencies, but I

appreciated Aja Hawk jumping in and asking him. And it probably takes a friend actually asking him, calling him on his BS subtly and saying like, but you weren't gonna be fired up to play for the Packers? Actually were you? And he was like, oh no, I actually never thought that they were wanted me. I thought the whole time that they were against me. He's like wait, but I thought everything changed a week ago. And then Pat mcabey actually jumped in. It's like, oh wait, wait, let's not

make Aaron upset here, let's just move on. But A J Hawk was kind of like, come on, bro, I know you're fullish. Yeah, A J Hawk doesn't care. You're just smoking that stogie, sitting up high, making judgments and asking questions. You need a guy like that. All right, Let's get into the rest of the news from the new league year. Let's start with the Cowboys. Very busy day for the Dallas Cowboys at the end of an arrow. Let's start here. Ezekiel Elliott and the Dallas Cowboys have

parted ways. The running back two time rushing champion in the NFL, but has obviously slowed down significantly. There was talk that he might take a huge pay cut and stick around with Tony Pollard taking on finally the lead dog role, but instead they go on a direction of a divorce. Mark your thoughts on what's next for Zeke. I think we all agree this was the right move

for the Cowboys. What do you think Zeke's career has a head if he has one at all, I mean, if general managers are more intrigued at the actual player's performance over the last twelve to twenty four months than the name. Then I'd say a one year contract somewhere would be next for Zeke if he doesn't choose to retire. I mean, for me, this was one of the moves of the day because it's unusual to see Jerry Jones,

who's done it. They've done a much better job with the whole front office thing over the last five, six, seven years than a lot of the stuff they got tangled in before. But Zeke Elliott felt like the one guy Jerry Jones just couldn't really get away from that. They might bring them back. It's like there's all this love for Zeke Elliott. I mean, and I thought the press release that Jerry Jones put out expressed all that they really, they really do think he was this important

part of the team. But it was really tiresome to think that he'd stick around and pair up with Tony Pollard is so clearly better. I mean, Zeke Elliott, it was only four years ago. Then, I'll never forget, like when we were sitting in there on a Sunday and it was all four of us with West and West was just going off about a catch and run touchdown that Elliot had that very few other running backs in

the league in that period could have done. And it's like he's fallen off a cliff in three years and it's the jealous Cowboys responsibility number one to assess that and see that, and they did it. Yeah, they didn't have an option to cut him before this year just because of the insanity of the guarantees in that contract he got. He got fifty million dollars plus and guarantees that like went through like four years. It was even

among bad running back contracts. It was a little unprecedented, and it was coming off a season when he was like the best running back in the league. But they should have seen maybe how his career was gonna go in terms of the arc of his career. But I think it's a good sign for them. And I just think it's interesting though that they're investing so much in defense dan like that they're they're really seeming to pivot all into this dan quinnoissance that dan Quinn is going

to leave them into glory. Yeah, before we get to that, I just want to add one more point on it, that it is you know, Austin Ekeler is looking for a new contract, and you know, you could say it's unfair the way running backs are treated in the NFL, But like, who's a better example than zeke He was excellent, He was awesome in the start of his career. He gets that second huge contract and it was basically a

big issue for the Cowboys almost the entire time. So good luck to Austin Ekeler and every other running back really, but these are the type of examples that lead other teams to be afraid to give veteran running backs another deal. Yeah, the defensive side of things for the Cowboys, they acquire veteran corner Stephan Gilmour, former Defensive Player of the Year from the Colts for a fifth round pick one seventy

six overall all against Sometimes you get surprised. I know he's older, but you say, oh, that's a that's a starting veteran quarterback, all pro all this like a fifth round pick, Well that's it. Seems to have the trademarket you could find some deals potentially. And the Cowboys also resigned insidelon backer Layton Vanderesh to a two year, eight

million dollar contract with five million and guarantees. Jane Slater had been reporting on our air that that's something they wanted to make happen, but it seemed very up in the air for a while there. But they get the deal done. Another West favorite, Layton Vanderesh. Yeah, I think Gilmore is like the kind of player that's gonna work out really well. I just I think you're at the point where you trust what dan Quinn's gonna do with

the defense. You get him across from Trevon Diggs. I think it raises bigger questions for me about the Cults because you gave him a fourteen million dollars guaranteed deal, two year deal last offseason he played really well. I mean, we already know that he's like cognizantly one of the smarter defensive backs out there. He's done it for all sorts of great coaches all over the league, and now he's a cowboy. And it's like, are the Colts because

it's the same day we'll get to it. They don't, Matt Ryan, which is no surprise, Like are they sneakily like going after Lamar Jackson here or trying to get clear the books for Lamar Jackson? There's some some tweets out there. The conspiracy theories are out there, some by good reporters who are just like wondering. And then I saw one by some a man I wasn't familiar with, um, you know, trying to put some reporting on it too, that he's heard about that the Colts might be sniffing

around Lamar. We'll see, but it would make a lot of sense. They you know, they have signed some people Samsung, Ebacon. It's not like they've done absolutely nothing, but they make more sense to me than literally any NFL team, you know, speaking of like reporters and you know whether you could trust them or not. Tough beat for Dav Kleinman Kleiman, Did you see this? A reporter for The Post finally tracked down Dav and he lives in Israel and Uh,

in a DM conversation, he's very upset. Of course, he became a headline figure because he aggregated Trey Wingoes Rogers report. And then Garrett Wilson kind of came down on Dab, not not intentionally, but it kind of put the spotlight on who is Dab and then people realize David has never been Uh, there's never been a photograph of Dov. He has like one hundred and fifty thousand Twitter followers. He has eighty tweets today about the NFL's reporter. But

he doesn't break any news. He gets tracked down in Israel and he posts finally agrees to share his identity and he's a total bro like thrown up peace signs at nightclubs. I thought that was interesting. I climb in photos. They made me laugh. I might have to unblock him just for that. I had nothing. But there's me more

than bad bad aggregators. And you know, we had we had a standard over at road, a world and do Dov was fast and loose early on in his career, and I was like, I gotta block this dude, so

you know, come back. It would have been a worse nightmare for you, Greg because in the post article, because at a certain point, it's like they put they gave him that assignment to write a whole article on this dude, and he's just filling out a copy of By the bottom of the story and one of the graphs that just here are some notable people that follow Dov Cleiman, I was like, imagine if Greg was on here, Oh, no,

you aren't. We had someone in our office like a reporter slash analyst genuinely like asking, wait, who what is Dov is do? Like it was pretty convinced that Dov was a bot because that's how the tweets come across in such a waterfall of information, that he's never really at the source reporting, not never never is and like it's like he's not a bot, He's simply a bro in Israel. So we've solved that mystery. And good aggregators

are great. But you could tell he takes one report and he makes it sound even a little more certain than it actually was reported, and then he doesn't like always credit it and and this is all problematic. Yeah, and yeah, let's let's point out too that around the NFL, the heart of it started as an aggregating blog for NFL dot com, So that's fair. Look at you. By the way, I love that Gilmore move. I love it.

He played great. He is only due a little under ten million dollars in twenty twenty three, so basically a salary dump the Cowboys. He fits there. They are trying to be the number one defense in the league, and on paper, I think they have a pretty good case for it, you know, I know, the forty nine Ers, the Jets. There's gonna be other teams, but man, the Cowboys are loaded on defense. Um all right? In other news, the Eagles the team at the Cowboys are chasing. They're

doing some biz. Naz Fletcher Cox sticks around one year, ten million dollar contract for Fletcher Cox, who received, according to Schefter, more lucrative offers on the open market. The Jets were one team were in on him, but he decided to stay with the Eagles. So that's a good thing for them, and they're front he's a big time player for them. They also hold on to James Bradberry,

their cornerbacks, so these are important players. And they cut ties with Darius Slay, who had a big role with this team, was a steal of a trade from the Lions once upon a time. But they move on Why Greg, I'm not totally sure. Partly because the contract he signed almost necessitated a restructuring this year because he had such a big cap figure. Darius Slay and I don't think he wanted to play that game because I think he had a feel that he was going to get a

big deal elsewhere. We'll see where that is. There's some buzz about Atlanta that he could get guaranteed money. Baldy was talking in the newsroom today that he just feels very strongly Slay was a better player than Bradberry and that Bradbury wouldn't have necessarily gotten that big money on the open market. I had Bradberry, you know, in the top ten of my available free agents. He got twenty million guaranteed to stay with the Eagles, so they love him,

but he thinks Slays a better player. Slay is thirty two years old. But that was one of the more surprising transactions. I would say of the last week, who are you chopping it up with? In the newsroom today? I'm just out of curiosity. Who's Greggy chopping it up with it? You know? At the water cooler, Baldy was there, Scott Pioli's in the mix. Trotter rolled in later. Get Trotter to smile a little. Mark Ross, Yeah, we had some good talks. We had some good football talks right there,

Mark Ross, Yeah, how do you feel about that? Mark? The second mark of the c in the media group. Um, you know, I tracked these things and there was a period where I was like set it well, no, no, no, because because I'd say this is a positive report, like um. At one point it was like there's two Browns fans

in the newsroom. Then something was like NFL network has like eighty two Browns fans suddenly working there, and it's just like, well, this isn't special, but there are only two Mark with the cs that inhabit any sort of you know, on air business. He's doing more than I am for NFL now, but we've got our show and it's like, so there's two Mark with the c's um. You know, I I'm fine with that. I've also met him.

He's a he's a gentleman. By the way, that before we take a break, this is just a temperature check in this digital room we're in right now. How many Browns fans do we have? Mmmm? I don't like I'm getting crushed by a lamb of Browns fans. Like on Twitter all the time, my name got connected to this absurd thing about Nick Chubb being traled. I did not we didn't even we didn't even get a direct answer here.

I Aaron Rodgers says he likes direct communication. It took him twenty minutes to say that and passive aggressively barry the packers doing that. But let's get an answer. Well, no, like I am not foul roughingesler, this is no, I don't there's my heart strings are not pulled at the moment.

That's what I'd say. I do think I could could return at some point, but like like, here's here's a bad strategy trying to like clump me in there or just tell me that I am like, that's not we know, we know in general I don't respond to that kind of element, not saying from you necessarily, but just in general, like the idea we're just gonna shape shift me back into that role. Like that's a tough sell. It's just

a it's just a attempt check. I do. I think what happened to you with the Nick Chubb situation, and maybe you could elaborate on this program, Mark, I believe the tweet you sent out a couple of weeks ago was a little Birdie told me or something on those lines that Nick Chubb could be a trade block candidate for the Browns, and then you added some critical thoughts if the Browns were to even entertain that, which I agree with. M So it sounded like you were kind

of reporting it. I thought, I see where, I see where people came from. Like I would like, like with essentially ninety nine point nine nine percent of my tweets, I'd rather just have never sent it to begin with. But I did, like hear it from somewhere spicy and like it was just a little It wasn't a report, but like you know what you I understand what happened there.

But it's just like why am I? And every time I log on now it's like we want to dry up your two factor authentication because so that's like what am I doing here? Like this site? Is anyone heard from group on this yet? Now substantial subplot? March nineteenth is right around the corner. Now, yeah, I haven't. I have to check my email today. I'm hoping to get

some type of clarity on how to handle that. We should explain what it is, well, quip, But it's like you, we we have a thing where like trying to break into my account, Well you've got to get through multiple layers of my you know, personal information link with all of us. We're probably putting up a flare right now, but like, um, they're like take this away because you aren't one of the new blue check mark Elon Musk people. And it's like, or what, we don't know, you don't

have access to your account. It's like, we'll smell you later unless someone else wants me to do this. Like, I mean, this is not sounding a hole little carnival ride. That's our new slogan. We are not Elon Musk people. Let's take a break and we'll hit the rest of the news. All right, we're back. Uh, let's dig into Greggy's Patriots, right, how many Patriots fans do we haven't No, I don't care. Juju Smith Schuster is going to the Patriots. They signed him to a healthy contract, I would say,

not astronomical, but healthy. Oh we should mention, speaking of healthy, maybe two healthy contracts that Alan Lazard to the Jets deal, which was significant. But Juju Smith Schuster, formerly of the Chiefs, three years, twenty five and a half million. It's up to thirty three million. I'm not sure what the guarantees on that are. But this comes just a couple of days Greggy, after Jacoby Myers ends up leaving to join Josh McDaniels in Las Vegas, do you think this makes

the pets better at that position. No, I think it's a wash. I struggled between those two players when doing the one oh one. I went back and forth. I was asking people around. I had Juju ahead of him at one point, I had Myers had him at another, and they ended up at Myers. They got what I thought was about the same contract. But actually once the details came out from the pell Raiser, Juju did come in substantially lower, about five million dollars less than guaranteed money.

The base salaries like two for twenty. I think like something like that two for sixteen rather for for Juju, which it's fine. It's a different type of player. He's he's hurt a little bit more, but he's more dynamic. After the catch, they badly needed a receiver. I'd rather have just stayed with the guy, you know, Jacoby Myers. But they need they needed one of those two. They need they need another one. Give it get a receiver.

Well there is like there there are speaking of little reports and whispers that I mean the DeAndre Hopkins could be on their radar, Jerry Judy could be on their radar. I mean they need a number one. I think Juju fits as your number two. Um, I mean, I guess is it is Bill Belichick telling us I like Juju Smith Schuster over Jacoby Myers, Like there were similar contracts for the same Absolutely. I asked some of our reporters and they seemed to the Jacoby Myers never got an

offer close to that. M Juju Smith shoes. They're similar receivers um in that they could they play the slot, but you could you could kick them outsides. Juju is a little better, a little better run after the catch, which uh maybe that's the area of the Patriots want to get better at um. But yeah, I think I think we might later this week share some moves like

predictions or what makes a lot of sense. I would be very surprised now based on the way this sets up, because Juju is a classic number two, and you know the Patriots want to be aggressive in rebuilding this offense. That the Patriots don't come out of this now without one of these bigger names, whether it's Odell or Nuke. Nuke feels very much like a Belichick player. In fact,

I kind of believe there might have been an NFL films. Yeah, Sideline miked up moment where Belichick was just falling over himself praising Nuca this season, this past season. That would be my prediction that Nuke ends up with the Pats. And then you look at their skill group and it's like, okay, Hunter, Henry Juju, Nuke, Mac Jones, with a real offensive coordinator, they got a running game, okay, I mean receiver wise, Like it's it's guys who have produced their best three

years ago, which is a little concerning. Juju's at least younger. And I always liked Juju as a player, but he's he's a role player. But that's what the Patriots like, is a bunch of role players. You left out one name, Bailey ZAPPI, oh right, well you yeah, another name Lamar Jackson. Can we offer you a slightly used McCorkell Jones, Baltimore McCorkell Jones. Is that true? That's amazing. I love it.

I like them more now after hearing that, uh yeah, this was It should be noted that this was the first official day where Lamar Jackson could be in discussions with teams, but we haven't really heard anything. It's such a it's such a weird story. It's such a weird vibe around it. All you're waiting for a team in

the cult we mentioned earlier. It makes so much sense, especially now that we see where they are in the draft and how things are going to shake out there most likely where they would get it be getting you know, at best, they're like third best option, maybe even fourth. Make it happen, happen. I'd almost say, like if it were, if it weren't for that little spat of tweets by Lamar Jackson a couple days ago, it would be the reverse Aaron Rodgers, because you never hear from him and

you never hear from the Ravens. Truth. Truth. Jake Briskett is on the move. The Commanders signed Jacoby Brissette, formerly of the Browns, one year, ten million dollars eight million guaranteed. As you know, Brisket was the bridge to Deshaun Watson, played very well for the Browns, your classic like, I view him as like a top shelf bridge guy, low level starter, and maybe maybe if things lined up, he could be more than that. But that's nice for them Anders.

So you add him to the room with Sam Howell and like this one a lot, Greg because it Sam how they believe in him, and depending on who you talk to, it's a little exhausting to me speaking of things that are exhausting. He was a fifth round pick in a bad QB draft class. But it's like, oh, but he could have been a first rounder. Well, he wasn't, and there must be reasons why some people don't think

he has it in him. So you'd be in You'd be very wise to get another quarterback in there to give yourself options, and Brisket is a very good one, right. I think the contract was telling sliced me off a piece of that. Jacobriskey. I mean, we root for Jacoby Risett. Maybe I shouldn't speak for you guys. I root for

Jacoby Brissett, good guy. I mean I never thought he'd have a season like he did for Cleveland last year, where he just was that efficient, played that well, and his money was a tier, just a little tier, but a tier above all these other backup contracts that have been out there, where like the Bakers and Matt and Mike White and Sam Darnold I have been getting around four million. Heiniki was like six that's what it usually is,

and now he gets eight to ten. So it does indicate to me maybe he's a peg above in terms of having a chance to play. And Ron Rivera did tell Matt Barry of Rhoda World that if a veteran beats out Sam Howell, so be it. That's why he said that in an interview at the Combat Matt Matt Barry with a scoobage. Yeah, there's interview Commanders. He might. He's one of the only Commanders fans that I think of.

That's right. It would be very un brand though, because I Brissette was one of last seasons better surprises and greater enjoyments, and I really enjoyed watching him lead the Browns, like there was something about the whole thing, and the coaches players they just love Jacoby Brissette. So there's something wrong with adding them. But it would be very Ron Rivera ish to go into the season with a Sam Howell, who played one his spicy game against the Cowboys. Credit

to that and Jacoby Brissette and nothing else. While every other team in the league is like shooting for the sky, You've got really essentially of a low floor, low ceiling option at quarterback. It's like, for the eighth year in a row under Ron Rivera. And now here's the exact same scenario, but with a different team. Another former Brown's quarterback, Baker Mayfield, also formerly of the Rams, has signed with the Buccaneers a one year, eight and a half million

dollar contract. Four of that is guaranteed for Baker. So he joins a team as a former starter for Cleveland and Los Angeles that has another young quarterback on their roster that they drafted and they are internally we're told high on. But Baker gives the Bucks another option here and Mark this could be a situation where perhaps he can win the job out of camp. We'll see how they kind of structure. This feels like one of those I feel like every year every summer there's maybe one

legit camp competition. This one smells like it could be one of them. Well, they were talking up Kyle Trask, but they had no one else, so that that was your move. Bruce Arians almost went to Cleveland because of Baker Mayfield when they went with Freddie Kitchens instead Bruce Area. And this happens. We see this frond like Bruce Arians has Baker Mayfield charms like he likes them, and I mean,

if you Baker Mayfield. I would rather have last year's Jacoby Brissette over anything we've seen from Baker Mayfield over the last year and a half. Right, that's fine, but Baker Mayfield is one of these players and this is not going to be any easier this year where you were under Hugh Jackson, Freddie Kitchens, Kevin Stefanski, Ben McAdoo, Sean McVay, and now Dave Conally. Like in the course of four or five years, you've had to learn six

or seven different offenses. That never helps. But I think Baker Mayfield is also He is what he is at this point, and it's a low level option for Tampa Bay unless we get a version of that player that we have not seen since that twenty twenty season under Kevin Stefanski or twenty eighteen. I think the money is instructive here too, that that level of money means to me they might go get another quarterback. Maybe not another veteran, but they might draft another guy because they haven't really

been in love with Trash. They've never even let him be active on game days. He couldn't pass Plane Gabbard on the freaking depth joint. You're gonna start him in week one. No way it's gonna be Baker and he's not going to be set up to succeed. So I

think they might they might go get another one. And you know, we talked about it last week when all the Lamar franchise tag stuff went down and all these teams leaked that they weren't interested, and we were like, well, let's see how it actually plays out starting next week. And then I'm just like looking at you know, Atlanta made a move yesterday for a quarterback. The Saints, the Commanders, the Bucks, the Jets are all like fortifying their QB

rooms and moving forward with a plan. I probably even missed one or two teams there, and it does you start to think, like, so the Colts obviously make a lot of sense, and like, what are the teams that aggressive have not made an aggressive move or any type of move that would make sense as a Lamar suitor? Interesting. I think it had to be got total wildcard team like the Pats or the forty nine Ers or the Titans or the Bucks. Actually still like that contract. I

was saying they could go after another quarterback. Payne Baker Mayfield. Four million dollars does not stop you from doing it if you really wanted to manifest Lamar Jackson to the Patriots. That's like the second time you brought it up in the last fifteen minutes. I at that crazy, absolutely trying to If you want me back in, I told you that would do it, all right. The Bucks also resigned Lavante David to a one year, seven million dollars contract.

He's been with the Bucks since the very beginning of his career, so in his twelfth season, he stays with Tampa Bay, which, you know, that's interesting. I like it. You know, I don't know if Lavande David gets a statue when his career is over, but you know, here's two guys playing their whole career with one team, and that potentially could happen with Lavante David. That's cool. It's like one of the only way get a bargain in free agency is like these old guys, he's still playing

at like a pro Bowl level. Greg has already shifted from the Bowls of Sons to the dan quinnoissance, So I think that's sort of what's going on here. So we got to give Todd Bowls a chance to not just sort of, you know, stand at the you know, the front of a sinking ship as it goes into the icy Atlantic helped him out here? Um does this mean by the way mac Lamore Jones are you so? Are you out on him? Or I still have reasonably high hopes for McCorkle. Not. Uh. Here's a move that

I was It was bittersweet. Uh. Jamal Williams, he gets paid by the Saints. He makes his move, gets a new deal. Of course, he's coming off an absurd seventeen touchdown season with the Lions, setting the franchise record, coming on our show during Super Bowl Week. Uh, being a hero on a hard knocks Let's get some like classic Jamal Williams. Here grave digger Um, three years, twelve million he gets from the Saints. So the Lions now make a move as well. They bring in David Montgomery, formerly

of the Bears. He had a nice season last year, so a little bit of a sprise that kind of thought him would stick around, but he didn't. Greg, I don't know if it's just a money thing. It didn't seem like it because they paid David Montgomery more than Jamal Williams. Guy, I'd rather have Jamal Williams. David Montgomery's a guy who makes you missed, but he makes you

missed to gain like four yards instead of three. Not a lot of big plays, just like a solid player, whereas Jamal Williams is bringing the vibes, he's bringing the energy, he's bringing the speeches. He just felt like a perfect Detroit Lion. I think he's a blue guy. I thought he was a glue guy for that team in addition to being remarkably efficient near the goal line. Yeah, you

already knew he works. I don't. It was one of the better like stories of the Lions and one of the better players stories of the entire year, starting in hard knocks and Dave Montgomery's skilled, but like, I don't get the move because you're taking away kind of a heart and soul player from this young Lions team that needs those guys. Well. It's interesting because he was one of the first moves Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell made together was bringing in Jamal Williams two at the time

somewhat surprisingly good contract for a backup running back. And they were like, he's a foundation builder and he really, he really did that, and I think he can do that for the Saints too. I know they're in a different spot, but they need a backup for Alvin kamericause he's probably going to be suspended. And I've always thought that that was a position of need for them. Anyways, mark Ingram was getting older, and I do like that fit.

Some one of our followers sent us like, can't you just imagine a Saints Hard Knocks with Jamis Winston and Jamal Williams at a crab boil. I mean that sounds like fun. Sure I would watch that. Let me hear some more, Jamal Williams, graber, do not give up? Do not like you tired? Were you tired? Think a last year? They're thinking a fucking record. Everybody's great when they're not tired. The champions is when they tired. That's when the real

champions come out. That's when a real dog come out, because if you go piss like a puppy, stay on the parts and let the black dog seat. I love that he's taking out a leadership role there. The players were responding to him, and then when he was on our show, he talked about he plays like video games and watch his anime twenty hours a day. You know, we we contain multitudes. In other news, Matt Ryan is

indeed history in the Indianapolis. After a disastrous one year run with the Colts in which he was benched twice during a fiasco of a season in Indianapolis, he is showing the door. Retirement seems to beckon for Matt Ryan. I hope it does. I mean, guys can quit when they want, but this has not been a pretty end

for a really good player. And the Colts also signed edge rusher Sampson com formally of the forty nine ers, to a three year contract with worth maximum value of twenty seven million, nine and a half sacks as a rotational rusher over the past two years in San Franz.

And I will say this about Chris Ballard. He really loves to play chicken with this quarterback situation year after year because they are, like you said, the one team that has really done nothing at the position other than removed last year's answer before you know when last year

they removed the previous year's answer. And you go back and back and back into the retiring of Andrew Luck and it's like, if there isn't something big coming behind door number two, I mean, Chris Ballard's running out of octane to argue for his opposition here, and our guy raptually pointed out, Matt Ryan's making twelve million dollars from the cults this year regardless. And it's not like, oh, he's twelve million dollars on the cap dead money, but

that's not real money. It's like, no, Jim Ursey is sending those checks to Matt Ryan. So good job, I guess by his agent. But I gotta go check the tape and see if Matt Ryan was as good on CBS as people say, because apparently he's he's into it and he wants I missed it. I don't know. I think he was like one of the playoff days we probably weren't watching. He was on the pregame show or in the halftime shows and uh apparently did a good nice job. Yeah, I mean, has anyone ever looked more

destined to work twenty four years in a booth? He's the next rich Gannon. Yeah. He feels like upgrade on like the number three CBS crew. So I like that. I like that idea. Here's a little uh three pack for you, Jordan Poyer, He's back with the Bills. The Viking sign Byron Murphy to a two year, twenty two million dollars packed and the Panthers bringing Hayden Hurst tight end um formerly of the Ravens, then the Bengals. I thought he's pretty good match there in Cincinnati, but now

he's in the Carolina. Andy Dalton also lands with Carolina, which is there you go these guys, a lot of these quarterbacks. He's veteran QBS. You watch the trajectory of the career mark and Andy Dalton went from second round pick of Cincinnati to franchise pillar to bouncing around as a bridge guy, slash backup, and now he's going to sign a hardcore backup deal behind the number one overall pick. Well, I think if you you know, I've talked about CJ.

Stroud a little bit for the Panthers, but if there was a world where it were Anthony Richardson, it was someone that they thought we want to let him marinate for a bit. Andy Dalton is literally the perfect quarterback in that situation. Say he's literally fulfilling the Dalton line credo that like, you are our starter, but we need a better starter. But in that case they would have gone and gotten a better starter and he could just

play that role until he's no longer the option. See, I thought you were going the other way there, if they were gonna go Richardson, And I think it's pretty clear they're not. Dalton's just so different from him that they almost wouldn't make any sense, you know what I mean? Like what you would want a guy that somehow was similar to Richardson in some ways? And if you were picking, I'd say this, Greg Who's the who's similar to Richardson

that's on the market right now? That's Tyler Huntley. I mean where people people would like setting their clothes on fire because he made a fall like a flag football Pro Bowl game. Yeah, Ty Huntley played well in that gamelay well, but I was outraged. Over All the digital ink was spilled about how well ty Huntley played in the Pro Bowl, like a participation trophy his friends, it was flag football. He did great Snoop is what his friends call him. And uh, he's a restricted free agent

that they didn't put a tender on. They put the original round tender, meaning someone can sign him. He's basically a free agent and not in The Ravens could match it, but they wouldn't have to give up anything. And so how about this, guys, You could actually sign Lamar Jackson and Snoopunley Huntley two contracts at the exact same time. You could bring the whole Ravens quarterback room over. Do

you ever have never been done? Never? I'm just thinking about this Greg this morning, as so much has been made of, like Lamar Jackson not having an agent, he does, it's you. What does that have to do with anything? I just thought it'd be fun. I mean, what if you signed two quarterbacks at once. I don't know. I'm just saying you are using your platform and and good.

I have no issue with it. You have used your platform to pump up Lamar Jackson's market, to even connect him to teams that he's already working hand in hand with his mom and the union. Lamar, if you're out there, Greggy deserves a cut of whatever contract comes. That's all I'm saying. I'm trying to get your paid Greg Adam to the entourage. I want that. I want that sort of influence. If I had any influence, Andy Dalton would have done better than one year four million. I thought

he played quite well last year. Two points. Let's take a break, and then I want to bring something up. All right, welcome back Greg Off our earlier conversation before the break, Well, when we first hit Andy Dalton, I think this might be the end of Andy Dalton being being eligible for the Dalton Scale. I think this is in terms of ATN history, this is a major transition moment where he's not even someone that we could discuss anymore. Right,

That's what I thought for two or three years. Yes, but that's what I thought for two or three years. And then he went out last year and like, if you're just based in it on twenty twenty two game film, he was better than Derek Carr. Yeah, yeah, I don't think it'll continue. But he's a backup now he's wavered back and forth. But I don't they signed him to be a patch early season starter at IF that. Yeah, I think it'll be CJ. Stroud's backup. I really think

Stroud kind of fits what Frank wants. And I'm just saying, like, let's say, see J Strout is the guy. You know, he's starting week one. Let's be let's be honest here. Um. Then, so when it gets to June or the dog days for this podcast and we're doing our annual Dalton line podcasts, Like, I don't think we include him in the convo. I don't know if that's ever happened before, But did we include him like I think last year we had already moved on to like the Ryan Tannehills and other guys.

All right, forget it then never mind? Well no, but you're right. I think I think you're right. I think you're right, Dan, I think you're right, And uh, we should mention Miles Sanders signed with Carolina. If you're looking for a guy who got a little a little bright with your facts, Mark, I mean, I'm just literally I'll go back and listen to that episode. But I don't think Andy Dalton was like a lynchpin. Probably we're saying we moved where we got to change the name of it.

We've been saying that I was trying. I was. I was painting in the margins of like symbolism and this podcast history. I shouldn't have done that. It was very dauv of me. Um. The other point I wanted to Greg was hypothetical, you're ready, I'm ready this Lamar stuff, and I know you're rooting for Lamar and a lot of people aren't just to make this this land for him and he gets paid and he's happy with it,

and he's on a team that truly appreciates him. Um, what if Lamar was like Aaron Rodgers, like super online at a level that no one even realized, and he does reach out to you and he says, Hey, I just want you to know, like you're the only guy in the whole godnessente like he pauses, and he shows him as a listener to that has understood like what I have been about and what I've been striving for and what i believe has been unfair, and how I've

been coverage covered and you're you're right. Screw every agent in the world into the dirt. They all suck, and all the insiders they're terrible. You get me. I want you to come on and be my consultant slash assistant, and I will pay you double what you make right now at NFL. Yes, yes, please, yeah, yes, I would try to like see with you guys and be like, hey, so this thing came up. It's probably not gonna last forever, but I got a family, and you know, I would

hope you guys would consider it. In your hearts if this ever goes south to welcome me back. But I can't count on that. I'm going to have to do this. Yeah, I think Mark. I don't want to speak for you, but we would understand. I just I'm just asking you seriously, like, would you move, let's say, hypothetically, to Indianapolis. And part of the job is, like you know, just being his buddy. It's like one of those things too. This seems weird.

I don't want that. I would also point to about, you know, fifteen other media members who've probably been just as a vocal and aggressively you're the one on this podcast, including Patrick Claybodu. Yeah, I Indianapolis. That could be a tough self for Amica. And that's sort of where I mean starts here about moving to LA. All right, good time, Sorry to you know Indianapolis people. She just you know,

she wasn't expecting anywhere button New York. That's all all right, let's uh oh you want a good ten years of disappointing her then, Greg, that's um, that's a good good track record. Yeah, I mean it's quite a legacy. I'm leaving all right before we hit odds and ends let's let's head over to Tytoons Corner with Justin Graver. I can't when we're doing when we're doing these remote shows, I can't look into those beautiful puppy dog brown eyes of Justin to bring him in. So I just have

to wait for his digital visage to appear. And now there it is. Oh, there's the rotating Titans helmet. Just move it a little bit faster than you'd think. But a very nice gift, very thoughtful. How's been laying? Dan? I set up a ring light just for you. It looks better. I think it looks good. It looks good. Good job, buddy. We want to check in on your

thoughts on some moves that the Titans have made. Now, I know you are of the opinion that the move for Tennessee should be to completely retreat and regroup and even dare I say tank. Here are some moves that the Titans made today. Titans tendered restricted free agent defensive tackle Tierre Tart at a second round level. They also placed a second round tender unrestricted free agent Aaron Brewer. They also they also signed a ziz Al Shayar and

Arden Key. What are your thoughts on these signings by the Tennessee Titans. Yes, they also signed Daniel Brunskill, who will be the starting right guard off the forty nine ers team. They signed three guys who were in San Francis go when Ran Carthon, the new general manager, was also in San Francisco. So those feel like you get an idea of what kind of player you're getting, not just based on like film and stuff. But I think overall pretty good value signings. No massive guarantees handed out

by the Titans. I think this is like a soft reload, you know, get a little bit of talent on the rosters so that you're not just like fielding undrafted free agents because you have to field a team in twenty twenty three. But this is all setting up for twenty twenty four. I mean you can't. You can't like go into twenty twenty three with all like nobody's at every position and then twenty twenty four rolls around. You gotta

fill like starters across the board. So fill some starters this year, save a few holes to fill next year when you go get Caleb Williams or Drake May, and then reset to be ready to compete in twenty twenty four. I think back, man, I think that Titans are back. I'm so waiting for so waiting for that Derrick Henry trade to drop. That'll that would be fun. Yeah, come on, get him to Buffalo. Who is who is the big quarterback you want next year? I want Caleb Williams right now,

I mean Caleb william Change over this all right? So you have you since you seem to be ahead of the game here in terms of how the Titans show should proceed or might be proceeding, this is your chance, especially with your um really well received Titans podcast that is called The Music City Audible. The Music City Audible is that new? Did you rename it? No? But you do ask me that every time it comes up, you could come up with like the uh the rhyme you know what I mean, like the scam for Sam or

the you know, collapse for Caleb windows for Williams. Those are both prey. You got time. You have a little runway there. Yeah, I think you're in trouble. You you you signed two of my favorite free agents Alsa here in Art and Key those were like two of the guys, was like, oh sleeper free agents. Yeah, and look at the Titans. Tannehill still there, Derek Henry's still there? Um,

who's the safety that was rumored? Bird? Still there? I mean, maybe this is going to change in a couple of days, but maybe the Titans are back about We'll see, how about gee hod for Caleb? Is that rhyme? Not? Really? I don't think that. Um, I don't think that works on a variety of levels. I find entertaining. Dam But I just I don't think you're gonna get too far with it. Thank you, Mark. Let's do some odds and ends odds. It ends odds and ends. Everybody, tell your friends.

It's starting to remind me of that segment of Fantasia of the Disney Classic where all the brooms start to take over. Yeah, it's a little ominous, um that we need a wizard to come and clean up all these colleens. All right, hit it? All right? The Texans give Sheldon Rankins a ten million dollars contract. He leaves the Jets after two productive seasons in New York. Caleb McGarry gets

thirty four million from the big spending Falcons. The Broncos signed running back some J p Ryan, Larry Oldwin, Joebi gets big money from the Steelers. The Chargers release Matt Feiler, they bring back Trey Pimpkins, uh Seahawks bring back Jaron Reid. Chief signed Charles O Mena who and you know what I think we're missing U the speaking of the Brownies. I think that then they bring in Um Thornhill, the lineback Thornhill Wan Thornhill, linebacker of the Chief, Super Bowl champion.

A bunch of transactions just to get us caught up. Any thoughts, a gentleman, what one thing that? Um? But with Somagi p Rhyan, first of all, last year with the Bengals, I thought that, you know, when Nixon was in and out of the lineup, he worked really well for them, and he played He just reminds me of a Sean Payton back. You can throw the vaal who left and right kind of just fits. But also it's like I was with you, Greg, the under the assumption

that Joe Mixon has probably done in Cincinnati. But now you don't have Somagi p Rhyan and either keep Joe Mixon, which would be a surprise, or you move on and you've got nothing there at that position. Greg, get Austin Eckler, right, We've learned over the years you can't like give these offseason grades after the first day. But the Bengals have had a tough couple of days. They lose Hearst I think they wanted to keep him. They lose von Bell,

I think they wanted to keep him. They lose Jesse Bates, who they knew was gonna leave, but he's a really good player. And yeah, p Ryan I think would have been a nice pickup if you're getting rid of mixing. Some of these bonuses come in of like the third day of the league year, which is Friday, and so there's still gonna be a lot more cuts, a lot more trades. I'm really looking to see who the Broncos trade.

It really does seem like Courtland Sutton and or probably or Jerry Judy gets dealt and we'll see who it is. I mean, yeah, you're right about Cincinnati, and but imagine if they did make that move and bring in Eckler. Imagine that team entering the red zone when you have Joe Burrow at the controls with Jamar Chase t Higgs an Eckler in the green zone. Make it happen. WHOA All right, how about Derrick Henry on the Bengals. That doesn't feel like something we could I could picture, but

I don't know why. I think Derrick Henry is a Titan for life. He should be at least why why should he be a Titan for life? Just feels that way. I don't know. Well, if you're get if you're given Echoler to the Bengals, I want to see Henry in Buffalo that I just like we've talked about that before. That would be such a pile driver from like October on. I wish, I wish I could remember who wrote this, but I read it and uh, speaking of running back market,

Zeke now obviously gonna be a free agent. Does he have any job? Um someone throughout the Chiefs where it's Isaiah but Chenko is like the guy in space and the more electric guy. But he's if you need a really good blocking running back, which that is Zeke, and somebody it can find the end zone as your goal line back, maybe Chief Zeke is a match. The Bucks were reportedly interested. I don't know why. All right. So that is the Wednesday edition of the Free Agent. This

is free agency week for around the NFL. I would like to get to a point boys also where we have some type of marquee guest that people need to tune in for, Like we need to do that. I think maybe we had a little bit of a setback with Cavon last summer. But if Cavon has like a twenty sack season and we mend that fence, maybe you know, he could be that guy. Maybe we get in with one of these young quarterbacks early and earn their trust at the draft. That's another reason to try to get

to the draft. We do, Dan, and this isn't exactly what you're talking about. Yes, we do have Bill Barnwell from ESPN on Monday, so that's going to bring in the people. Well, that's a fellow Northeastern University graduate, so I know that that is something I'm excited for. All right, So yeah, we'll have another show tomorrow, just sharing some you know, the other big news from the week. As it comes along. It does start to slow down, but there's still enough irons in the fire here and you

never know. Again, it's very strange with this Lamar Jackson situation, but he is now officially open for business, so maybe we'll get some movement on that tomorrow and if it happens on Friday. Gotta say it, Mark, there will not be an Aaron Rodgers emergency podcast, but now there is a Lamar Jackson emergency podcast potentially in the offing. Just a heads up, put it on your calendar, and I wouldn't say red block out your day, but it's got

to be maybe an Orange. Well. Look, I was prepared to do whatever it took to cover the Aaron Rodgers news holistically, and so if we have to do that for Lamar Jackson, a more enjoyable individual this offseason, of course I'll do it. I'll be there absolutely well said you're trying to get that assistant job for Lamar? No, but I mean I wouldn't. I would. I would just say, like, if I were able to speak with him, can you wait till maybe, you know, Monday morning would feel like

a really fresh time to do it. Why are the smack dab in the middle of anyone's Friday just throwing that out there too? I think he is someone that seems to want to work with us, right. The trade of the number one an overall pick Friday at like five pm Eastern was legitimately a disgrace by everyone involved. We're trying to have lives here. Can someone think about the cognizandy. Is that how you become a cognizanny by having a balanced work life. I don't know. I don't

think so. All Right, we'll be back tomorrow. Thank you everybody for listening, and remember, as always, he'd the call