Free Agency Day 3: Russell Wilson, Trent Williams, & A.J. Green

agents out there. We're gonna get to everything that's happened in the last twenty four hours and guys that are still out there and things that could happen while we're recording, just like we did the last two days. But I'm starting to think like this, the Shawn Watson thing, this um, this is going to really soon become the dominant story if it's not already there, Like, it feels like it's gonna happen soon now, and we're gonna get to some sports that are out there too. Do you disagree? Right?

You gave me a HM, which I think means I don't know about that. I know, I don't know. I'm so in the dark about this that I have no feel if I had to guess it feels more like the draft. Like the draft, You're right, it will become the dominant story and we're gonna be talking about it. But it just feels like nobody, no one knows. But it makes more sense to me to happen near the draft.

I think it. I think it could happen before that, though, too, because you're in a public relations disaster and if and if the right offer comes, it's probably gonna they have to start to listen. It sounds like they're not really even listening or picking up the phone. But when you go and I am not connecting the Tyrod Taylor dot to suggest that they believe that they're done with Deshaun Watson. But that's the first like sign and it's just such

a predictable textans thing to do. And I something about this. I just start thinking, I know the Panthers are all over it, that he's gonna wind up in New England and our heads are gonna Why is that so impossible? Here's why. Because they filed the tampering charge against the Texans just a year ago that was related to them hiring the general manager that's there. Now that the owner of the Patriots. Is was reportedly furious with Easterby for

some breadcrumbs that Easterby dropped on the way out. That the Texans have really been as almost as much as any franchise really, obviously the Jets would be in that mix, but almost as much as any franchise has sort of been the Patriots little brother um since they've come back, because they've just kept coming up against them in key spots, and I just I just can't see any reason that they're ever gonna serve Watson to them on a platter

for any amount of picks, because that's ownership. Ownership, wouldn't the last Hey, Ricky, Hollywood, what if you in one fell swoop got Cam Newton out of your way as QB one and imported a future Hall of Fame quarterback in his mid twenties to the Patriots in one move. That's what I thought, I thought, speaking of the Patriots, and he moves in the last twenty four hours for everyone to uh over No, but I think more could

be coming. They still have a lot of cap space left after all this, somehow, and they usually get active. You said, by the way, Greg that you know there's certain soldiers out there in the Belichick universe. Let's let's hear from one of them, Lewis Riddick, and he's executing it to a tea right now. Now it's all it's all on the quarterback. It's all in Cam Newton and whether or not they wind up drafting somebody for the future.

But right now, as far as team building is concerned, this is a clinic of how to run free agency. It's an absolute clinic. This is exactly what's on my nerves about this. Greg Riddick, who, obviously I guess is I know he has history with Belichick and and all that. This idea that now and he has a big platform. Lewis Riddick, people listen to him, and he's on ESPN's morning show and he's saying, Bill Belichick has fixed the team. Now, whether they do well or fail, it's on Cam Newton

because Bill's fine. Bill did what Bill had to do. He made every move and he's built this team now brilliantly. And if they don't do well in two thousand twenty one,

it's not Bill Belichick's fault. It's Cam Newton's fault. And that's that's a kind of unsavory way the sausage can be made when you have people in your corner in the media, because I just hate that sentiment as if just because they spent all this money, he just he won free agency again and now you have to put it all on Cam, as if now it's Cam's job to get them back to the super Bowl. It's not just Cam that got on my nerves. Well, Plus, Belichick is the one that is putting Cam in there, so

he is responsible for for Cam Newton's play. His faith in Cam Newton is is on Belichick. And you know, the minute that preceded that was more of an XS and O saying like how these players specifically fit the way Belichick wants to attack inside out? He thought he thought Aghilar and Henry and Johnny Smith. I kind of it was like the perfect fit for the Patriots offense. So we'll see, we'll see. But that that was kind to you want to talk about I want to talk

about Mission accomplished, banner on the aircraft carrier. Al Right, here's here's the thing. Watch watch NFL media across almost any platform, and the ex players and scouts and gms and everyone that's been inside the league, every single one of them has got some big time agendas that are very obvious if you know him ahead of time, Like it's just a fact, and we do too. We do too as fans. I'm not saying we don't, but we did. You gotta read into that. I'm with you. Riddick has

been studying Belichick for twenty plus years. I mean he was with him on the Browns. He so, I do. We've ascended past study at this point. That's what the word is. But study feels a little bit. But I would say this, if you're gonna tell me a team that is going to go out and make a big deal out of having like a two tight end offense and who I would trust with almost anyone they bring

it on defense to maximize. Yes, it's the Patriots. Unfortunately, I don't think it's just I think like the mission accomplished event in our history was a little more egregious than suggesting the Patriots have added talent on both sides of the ball. Work out, job, it's done, it's done. The Patriots are is supposed to be the Jets time of year, it's like false hope time of year. He doesn't like that the Patriots are the team with the

false hope this time. You know, he doesn't like that that the Patriots are peaking in March like the Jets did the last few years. And I do, you have plenty of history with that, and peaking in March doesn't always tend to work out in September. But congratulations to the Patriots. You starting the show saying, um, the you know, it's the new league year and like now we're selling does that mean today is actually the first um time

we can say football is back. It's like the it's the first of fifteen different times from now until September football is back there. There may be no more absurd thing happening in any sport. I mean, and there are some challengers out there. Then this treating the new League year like New Year's Eve business, I don't I just who we're all having to kind of close our eyes and pretend it's of intrigue. It's a vestige of of five years ago. This the game has changed out from

under our feet. Why why why wast we not evolved? So why why are we still treating that like it's this Christmas morning business? My son is in the background yelling poop poo bananas. Well, that's the true. I mean, that's more interesting to me than right, that's a good point. I think you're going to discover something more interesting when you exit the show, no doubt about it. You know, he's talking about the Seahawks off season, am I right? All right, let's get into where we're at right now.

It is just after five o'clock on the East Coast. Let's start with some quarterback talk. Let's talk about the Seahawks. Why not because an interesting report the Bears, as we discussed yesterday, UH signed Andy Dalton to a one year contract worth ten million, with room to go higher than that. It's it's you know, low grade starting quarterback money for Andy Dalton. Seems like the direction Chicago's going in now.

A report this actually from Dan Patrick, who said on his radio show, I presume that Chicago, UH, the Chicago Bears offered three first round picks, a third round pick, and two unnamed starters for Russell Wilson, so they went for it. The reports out there. If this is true what Patrick is saying, I have no reason to think that he's misinformed here. Um the Bears, indeed, we're all in on trying to solve their offense and franchise issues with one big swing. But you know what killed them

is they have the overall pick. You wonder if they were in the top five, if this is a whole different situation, and the Seahawks are actually tempted to pull the trigger, but they might not have had an off ammunition here. They couldn't deliver the quarterback. I think that, you know, if you're the Seahawks. And I like the way some people put it, like if this deal went down, the Seahawks become the Bears, and the Bears become the Seahawks, And and why would the Seahawks want to do that?

I mean, I wonder though, And this all happened at a North Dakota State pro day and Fargo, North Dakota, which which which adds to a little bit of intrigue in the whole thing. But I got it right. Mysterious a nice place. Um, Okay, we can play that too, Like Ryan Pace, you tried, but you didn't deliver the quarterback the first Kay, we can play that too, he said. You seem, yeah, annoyed by the thing. I like the

I don't understand. I don't understand what is happening to sound drop in there every once in a while without getting agitated by it. It's just it's typically when I'm speaking, then suddenly a bunch of bells and whistles got to get on the furled. I mean, there's no doubt about it. But it is a nice anthem. Um. You know, I don't at this point, I don't going to say instead of judging this is the theme song of the great film Fargo. Well a moment many times, Yes, this is

the theme song from Fargo. I love that there was a clandestine meeting Amy Fargo. Um, having really loved that, was it? Brother? Did that film? Yes? Excellent? Alright, Mark, go ahead. I'm sorry to upset you with no I think. I think what's happened is I stepped over a bit that you had prepared before the show. But I meant you're starting to have any issues when there's something in the background. I apologize. Go ahead. Well I don't I

don't know where this is going. But like I would just say this, you wind up with Andy Dalton because you couldn't deliver the quarterback, not when you had a chance to draft one, or when it came down to this super expensive trade proposal. You're on the outside looking in the Chicago Bears and it's not any dalts fault. And then we all get it. Everyone's been tweeting about it for twenty four hours. But he's in another terrible situation where he's gonna be compared to like Mr Rabinsky,

who they could have had. So I've had enough of it, and I feel for Bears fans. The music swelling really does that kind of gravity toss to what otherwise be like a good Danny Dalton take, but now it's like it almost feels like your Oscar clip. It's great, and we just send the show right here. Let's just call it a day. I need tomorrow. I do see what Ryan Pace is doing though here. You know, it's like every reporter has this these details. Where does it come from? Alright?

Like he is giving me um Ryan Pace. That is some Danny Ainge in the NBA vibes where it's like every time a huge superstar gets traded, like it gets leaked a day later, that Danny Ainge really tried hard for him. And I'm not doubting that's true, but you kind of it's a self serving report that's like, hey, Bears fans, we tried, Uh, well, if you really, I didn't like when people said they did everything possible they empty, Well, no,

you could have just offered more. You could have made trades leading up to this to get even more first round picks, Like if you wanted to sell out, you know everything you possibly could do, you could do more part of the well three first round picks, didn't we learn at some point in this offseason that that's the most you can actually, But if you got someone in theory, in theory, you could try to acquire another Raid Khalil

mac for another first or something like that. You're saying, okay, sure something like that, or like the Jets have done, like the Jets have set the table to be a true contender the Bears, you need like a year, You need a little bit more time to build up a cachet like that. I guess the if the Bears had another year leading up to one, and maybe they will because Russell Wilson could be traded next year, maybe then you could see something happen, or even or even next month.

Because if ra up sheets are our insider, Ian Rappaport's timeline is um accurate and no reason to think it wasn't the Seahawks slept on this, so I thought that was an interesting part of the story. Schneider and Pace meet up the clandestine meeting Fargo, and they sleep on it.

He goes back and talks to Pete Carroll. I found an interesting rap sheet points out specifically that Carol is the one that makes the decision here, which is uh supporting my Pete Carroll is the most powerful head coach in the NFL argument because he hired Schneider and because they don't seem to have any real ownership situation going on there and not really sure what's going on there. Um that Carol said no, I don't want to do that, but I don't know. If they had a meeting, they

talked about it, they thought about it. It kind of indicates they're thinking about it, that this that it's possible. But whether it's possible right now or next offseason, I don't know. But it doesn't seem nearly as like crazy. And if I am Seahawks ownership, it's it's Paul Allen's sister, by the way, after Paul Allen died. I don't know, I'd be a little concerned. I might want to nip

this in the button. I might want to get old Pete Carroll out the door if I have to make a choice right now, I don't know, before before they train Russell Wilson. Yeah, if it comes down to that, I like what Pete Carroll's doing. Keeping Russell wasn't. Okay, that's fine, but seventy part and part of it is he's seventy. Does he want to go into a rebuild with a hazy quarterback scenario? It sounds like an absolute nightmare to Ben Not at age seventy you could turn

into the Bears and not have a quarterback for thirty years. Also, Pete Carroll is not your average seventy year old. And I also think based on what we know about him, uh, I don't think he sees anything. As you know, I can't pull this off, not at this age. I think he he still believes himself to be thirty five, and he might actually be uh uh, He's he's not quite your average seventy year old. But this will be very

interesting to continue to track. And another you know, big quarterback news, and we mentioned Watson and the idea of trading a franchise superstar Um the Athletics. Joseph Person reports that the Panthers are quote locked on acquiring the Texans star and uh. Person quoted an executive with an NFL team who said, uh Watson looks to be planned a B and C for the Panthers and the team's owner, David Tepper. Three first round picks the likely starting point

in trade talks. So there's that three again, there's the max now, well max years, you could always have more first roundspect that's beside the point. Um, here's my thought on this and why I think, yes, the draft really it feels like it's far away, but it's really not.

But if the Texans have David Tepper around the hook here and this guy wants what he wants, and we've heard this over and over the David Tepper, he won't let a guy out of the room when he wants his man, and he wants to make his big splash, and he wants to run an NFL team the way he built himself as a businessman into a billionaire, and that's being aggressive and getting what he wants. All right, this feels like they've got to do business with and we've talked about it in the past, on this show.

If you've got a trade Deshaun Watson, which you never want to do, but if you have to do it and you don't have another choice, might as all trade him out of the conference and put him out of sight, out of mind on some level, and don't let this opportunity slip away. It just feels like the Panthers and and where they're at as an organization and their need and who their owner is. Uh, this is the partnership

to get max value in a deal. Don't get too cute with this and blow the best potential suitor you have. You have the number eight pick, that would be a doorway to get a quarterback obviously, um, which is the huge key component here. I do think David Tepper is going to be looked at four or five years now. Is one of the most powerful owners in the NFL, if not in sports. Um, he's a modern day owner and the marriage between him and Matt Rule is super solid.

And can you imagine that offense last year was frisky with Teddy Bridgewater. I mean, they've got parts. Can you imagine Deshaun Watson with Christian McCaffrey and Robby Anderson and maybe you even think about retaining Curtis Samuel, resigning him

as an attractive um add on for Deshaun Watson. They will have now that it's the new year league about thirty two million in cap space, So they have been making moves and setting the table again, like to your point, Greg, getting in the right position to make this gigantic trade and I think would be an awesome landing spot for Deshaun Watson. Well, and they're high enough in the draft that they could potentially move higher, so that that's the

key to me. I think if you're the Seahawks, you can't ever trade Russell Wilson without getting a franchise quarter back back. That's insane. And it's the same with the Texans, So you know, the Dolphins and the Jets, to me, I've always made the most sense because they have the second and third pick and we heard that Watson would like to go there. Although now that's you know, there's

a million of these reports out there. There's one from Lombardi, who is a former Patriots employee, So again, think about it. Think about agendas that says he doesn't want to go to those teams that he likes, the forty Niners, or the Broncos, which also our teams. I think that could be laying in the weeds here because they don't need a quarterback now in free agency, but they could pounce

around the draft. But what what UM Carolina in Denver to some degree has is a pretty high draft pick where it's okay, maybe if you can get even higher and then you throw in the first without giving up your first round picks, you know, then then maybe you're cooking. But wouldn't you get you probably would get the best price near the draft, kind of like the Goff trade or the Wentz trade or or the Eli Manning trade,

all these other trades. I could see Jimmy g as someone that, you know, please Nikissario and Mr easterby um claiming friendship with or whatever. It would be insane. This is this fits well with what the Texans want to be. Jimmy g as our starter with you know, Tyrod Taylor as our backup, and you'll probably see both of them. I don't know if Easter be you know, he's a god fearing man. If remember when Garoppolo went on that blind date with the adult film star. Sure, but one

of the tenants would be forgiveness. I would think you'd have to forgive that he's a young man. You could see why that might happen. That's still I have to say, in all the years that we've done this podcast, one of the strangest stories that Jimmy G who's by all accounts a mild mannered man and a really nice guy

and everybody seems to like him. Uh. And I'm not throwing any shame on the adult film industry, but to think that you could just go out on the town with a well known porn star that is that was quite a roll of the dice. Now, the payoff, I imagine was huge. Let's let's be honest here, Uh, you know, entering in that type of relationship. However long it lasted. But when we look back, Greg, that's stunning, isn't it. I Mean, I think it lasted until the next day

when she coast that stuff on Instagram about it. But it's a really funny story to look back on. It made me like Jimmy G. Moore because of how he handled it. He didn't try, he didn't give you the franchise quarterback um vanilla answer. He just started like chugged his shoulders it was like, come on, guys, like, you know what happened? Why are you asking about this? Like he owned it, and with a smile he owned it.

Was if a franchise quarterback can't do it, who can, I guess in terms of your you know, power brokering your way into that kind of a date. But he's like, what you gotta get on me for this? Guys, look at me. He's like, swing remember West and I um rode a plane with Jimmy g from Indianapolis to Los Angeles and actually spoke to him a number of times when no one knew, you know, who he was and where he'd go and what he'd become. Um. You know a lot of other things happened on that plane flight too,

but that was one of the highlights. I think I know the one you're referring to. Uh and other Deshaun Watson news. Uh. This is just something to keep an eye on here. UM, there are allegations of a so true assault involving Watson. Here a law student. UM includes allegations from a female masseus that Watson quote went too far during a massage, and Watson came out in social media and vigorously denied everything uh involved in terms of

the charges and called it a shakedown. So that is kind of now uh something just percolating as part of the story around Watson. We'll see how that ball plays out. In other free agency news, let's get the free agency things have calmed down a little bit, but still a lot of stuff going on. Will start with Trent Williams, the left tackle signs a monster extension with the San Francisco forty nine ers, six years, a hundred and thirty eight million, fifty five of it guaranteed thirty million and

assigning bonus. The thirty two year old is locked and loaded as the blindside protector of perhaps Jimmy Garoppolo or whomever else in the future. So after I think he was number one on your free agency top one on one, he is off the board in a big way. I like the I wouldn't call it pettiness, but just um like a book keeping detail that they added ten thousand dollars to the end of this hundred and thirty eight million dollar contracts, so he could be the highest paid

left tackle in history. Like who's doing that? The agent or the player, I don't even know, but he just

he wanted to be the guy and he proved. Uh. You know a nice predict prediction I put in there that I thought I thought he would in this free agency where I do feel team players are getting a little less than they would normally, Trent Williams got paid full price and he's kind of the photo negative of Levian Bells uh sitting out a year, so we said, well, that didn't work out for Levan, but worked out well

for Trent Williams. His was for a different reason. It was mostly his displeasure with the Washington franchise and a little bit of injury situation. But he sat out a year. Bet out of hmself said you can't tag me. I'll play for you one year, a little below market, and now he's he's awesome and he's rich. It's interesting that the Chiefs, who obviously need tackle help, uh, pushed really hard to sign him and that and then he turned down the chance to go and play with Patrick Mahomes

and probably walk right into a Super Bowl. Um. I guess it shows true belief in the Niners too. It can't just be about money. I mean, although that's what everyone tells me, it's all about Well, he was drafted by Kyle Shanahan and Matt and my Mike Shanahan back in Washington, so he had he has a nice history

there and clearly likes playing for him. I mean, if you're an organization that's being run the right way and you have a guy in the building, you have a chance to make him comfortable and make him like where he is. And I think that's certainly helped the Niners in this case. Um as well, you mentioned Levy on Bell. Is he even going to get a job? Is his career over? I mean, what a stunning downfall. Uh. If

that's the case. He was on a Hall of Fame trajectory before he got into his squabbles with Pitts, I think it could be over unless he's going to take like a minimum deal and compete for a spot in camp. That's that's kind of where no major injury, sat out the year over contract issues, came back with the Jets, got a nice deal. M wasn't nearly the same player. They thought maybe getting him out of the Adam Gates offense send him to the Chiefs would spark him. Did not.

And it's just it's one of those really, it's a head scratcher because I think he's whate now and it's it's almost like the the the elite football and his body just disappeared. He also disappeared from the Steelers and that attack. But interesting story. There no questioning his desire um to probably I would someone who i'd call a lifer. I expect him to come back and play another eight

or nine years, if not eight or nine months. Moving on, the Cardinals are making moves, will start at wide receiver. They signed A J. Green to a one year, eight million dollar contract. He's gonna be thirty three year is old this summer. Uh didn't look I mean, he looked like this is this is kind of like Levian Bell. He's a few years older. So you think father time's playing a role here, But it almost seemed like he went from an elite player to a below average player overnight.

Last last season was not good statistically for him, even with and to send it young quarterback and Joe Burrow. Good Cardinals. Now we're going to take a chance, and it makes you wonder if Larry Fitzgerald is gonna hang up the cleets here. It's been very quiet on that front about whether he's coming back. Or not. Not a J Green now is in the equation. I was very surprised he got six million guaranteed. Very there's not a lot of money over there, making some aggressively. He didn't

he didn't look good last year. You know, I really thought you looked at him and I think that was a nice receiver group, uh in general, three good young receivers. You see him next to you know, te Higgins and even Odd and Tate was like therefore and they like you could just see them both on the field the same time, and they all just they looked like young and explosive, and a J. Green that did not, So

he became like a point of the catch guy. It's like he and everyone I saw NFL number going crazy about this and it's like talking about how strong his hands are and all the stuff. That's fine, I mean, but he's not the same player. And it's to me, the money is weird and it's the classic um free agent signing where everyone's going gaga over it. But he hasn't been a J Green in two plus seasons. And if, as West would say, value the game, not the name,

Fitzgerald is going to retire. According to Mike Florio or have to sign elsewhere. He put something out there. He didn't say sources, but he made it clear he wasn't based in it on nothing that the Cardinals were kind of done with him. He put it out there in a nice way, which makes sense. He averaged seven yards per catch last three He played a lot and did not produce Larry Fitzgerald and he's starting thirty nine, so I think it's probably the end of the road for him.

First round pick, way back, and I believe two thousand four an amazing Hall of Fame career for Lara fitztreald. If this is the end, we'll keep an eye on that. And another Cardinals news Rodney Hudson. You know, we're just talking about him, and the news that came out yesterday indicated that the Raiders had released their veteran center, which was surprising and head scratching. Well, didn't turn out to be a release. It turns into a trade, so he's

out the door. But it's the next closest thing. Uh Uh. They trade Hudson to the Cardinals. Uh in exchange for a third round pick, and they swapped seventh rounders. Excuse me, Cardinals acquire Hudson and a seventh round pick from the Raiders in exchange for a third round pick. So that is a nice pickup for Arizona. Um Hudson, as we talked about yesterday, he has really had a nice career. I like thinking about the sausage. See how this sausage gets made on one like this. I'm a little I'm

curious how this all went down. Do you think the media played a role in the Raiders changing there? I don't know, Like did the Raiders not realize he could acquire a third round pick? Was ian Um just putting it out there and they knew that then? Like because the g m app is not around Dan, maybe they're maybe they're kind of using ian as a way to put it out there. Or was it just like some imprecise language going on, like we were going to put him on the top one on one and he never

even was a free agent. It was, you know, a little strange. The whole thing is strange, and that this is how the g m app works. It's very simple, and I just needed HTML guy um to help build it with me. If you're out there, please hit me up. My d ms are open. No, they're not all you have to do is in the subject line center Rodney Hudson, you click into it. Okay, then you have his contract details,

how many guaranteed years he's left, what what's owed? All that type of uh nitty gritty information, and then what I'm looking for and put mid round, mid round, pick hit me up in my d M S and then you'll have that out there to thirty one other teams. And it just takes one button, one nibble to have it. And if you get to then you can start leveraging them against each other, maybe open a three way chat and you get the three of them together and we

just really figure it out. But that's how it works. It would absolutely be effective. It sounds like an incredible platform. And it's like when you come up with ideas like this, usually like other people around the globe are coming up with similar ideas and I'm surprised, Um, well, it says a lot down that you're the only one who's come

up with this. It's not been done. Uh And I would ask you that could it could like someone sneaky like a Jackie Easterby get into the forum or is it is it simply the person with the GM title, like can you can you? You know there are other like pesky people in every organization. You know, there has to be a gatekeeper. That's what i'd hire Greg. I'd give Greg about what can I pay Greg that he would say yes to do it. I would pay Greg dollars.

You gotta get to five figures and then you could have involved me at I would have done it for time. Uh So if I give Greg fift k and he becomes the gate keeper. Uh and people actually have to submit, like I just went through this with the whole home process. Um. The final part of submitting an offer is writing a letter to the buyers explaining why you want the house. And it's a way to kind of add a little

personal touch. If you're in competition, they have to submit a letter of intent to Greg and then Hill decide weather to let people. Yeah, fifteen grand feels low in a in a trade where there's like maybe transactions a year. I mean Greg is going to be the time for Greg's based job anymore. Well, the yeah, the between me and the HDML guy, I mean he's going to have to figure out how to get the three way chat going. I mean it's one thing when it was I think

that's a little deeper than HDML. But yes, no, it's that's the whole thing I want. That's got to be expensive. It's got to be expensive. Well, I think, I think to your point, I think your wife work in that realm mark. Sure, but I'm gonna need more than fifteen thousand dollars. You know the responsibility. I've been an undercutter. I'll do it for ten. I need that. We'll do it for nine. There must have been another team in that app by the way, for it to go all

the way up the third. That was the whole thing. They gotta cut him. And it's like they must have had other teams bidden to get it the third. Alright, uh, where are we? Where are we? Where are we? Moving on? Oh? Jacob Bursett has a job. He joined the Miami Dolphins um as their new backup quarterback behind to a Tongua vloa. And that's a that's a nice landing spot for Jake Brisket.

And it does you know, it jumps out to me when I saw this news, and and I had written about this on the website and maybe a month ago, that one of the reasons why I didn't feel like Ryan Fitzpatrick made sense is the future of the Dolphins was like he was too good at the job, and he was too he was too popular with the fan base. And to Ah is just a kid and he's try

to figure this thing out. And you have this guy that is essentially the most popular player in the league on some level in terms of everyone loves Ryan Fitzpatrick, right, like not in in terms he's not like as big as like the true superstars, but you know what I mean, He's just such a fan favorite. It became almost a distraction in this goal of building out to as your franchise quarterback. You get Jake Brisket in there, and you're, okay, you don't have to worry about the fans clamoring for

Jake Brisket. So we've seen a lot of Jake Briskett, and Jake Brisket is Jake Brisket? Yeah what and so what did the cults always say about Jake Brisket Like great teammate, um, you know, willing to do anything, stepped in a tough situation. Ryan Fitzpatrick is just simply too charismatic um and it gets too freaky and too good at times. That you that's a load for your coaching staff to handle as your backup quarterbacks. So I totally

agree with you. I think to me though it you know, anything could happen, but it shuts down for me the idea that the Dolphins would package to away for Deshaun Watson. I just don't. That team to me feels like a no go on that what does that have to do with Jake Briskett though, I just think that they to your to the point of getting a backup that is clearly below to us like intrigue level that they're just

going forward to. Also, everything they just said about to I just think that there that's the quarterback room, and I don't think you're adding to Shawn Watson to that is happening. Who knows, but would you would you do you think they're a candidate? I don't. It was that the Jake Brisket sign. It, by the way, enough for this slander on Jake Brisket, nice quarterback last time he was truly a second. Tell me, tell me where I'm wrong, Jake Brisket, slice me off a piece of that Jake Brisket.

I would have been happy to see him. And you know, do you know exactly what I'm saying? Though? When I say Jake Brisket is Jake Brisket, do you understand what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's a bad guy or a bad player, No, I know that, But the the the Brisket Homer's out there would point to that first half of his season with Indianapolis before he heard his shoulder, and things were looking pretty good and then he he stinks with the bomb shoulder and then he gets replaces.

But you're not intrigued to yank to uh or doesn't I agree with your point. I agree with your point. I do think if they had any chance to get to Shaun Watson, they would sell to a down the river. That's what I think. I think you're right about that. Um. In other news, the Bills parted ways with John Brown last week. They replace him with Emmanuel Sanders. This guy's starting to pile up some freaking frequent uh freaking frequent flyer miles. Uh here Manny Sanders. Um, it is a

one year, six billion dollar contract. Nice value. Sanders a little up there now, a little long in the tooth at thirty four years old, but he has always been a nice consistent number two, number three type guy, and um, maybe he gives them somebody is a little bit more durable and can you know, make some plays with Josh Ellen good spot for him, like if you're if you're

into him as a fantasy guy or whatever. Because you didn't do great in New Orleans, you are mentioning frequent flyer meyer miles gets me thinking, like I've been racking up these frequent flyer miles on my credit card this last year. Like what it just feels worthless. I guess someday in theory, I'll I'll use them, but it's just like a currency that doesn't matter anymore. You will get on an airpange and again at some point I would

imagine that here's that wide receiver room. As Greg ponders air flight in the future, Emmanuel Sanders joined Stefon Diggs. He's the true number one Colt Beasley who had that big breakout season last year. Uh and you had you have second year man Gabriel Davis as well. Uh So Sanders slides in there. He should Yeah, he should play plenty there. It's a nice group. Uh. Speaking of John Brown, he lands on his feet with the Las Vegas Raiders, and he replaces Nelson Agre who went to the pay atriots.

Um and Greg helped me out with this. I don't remember exactly, Um, what are signed for, so maybe it's just but they never they never said what the guarantees. It might be a one year deal, but they never.

They haven't said that one yet. And and John, Yeah, I don't see what the figures are for John Brown here, um, but it's one of your classic up to five point five millions from what I just thought, you know was a guy they probably should have tried harder to keep around, considering he had such a good rapport with Derek Carr and and and had really busted out last year. John Brown, we talked about him last week, A long time West favorite, a guy who can make plenty of plays, but maybe

a bit of a durability concern there. I thought Algalar was a good fit in Las Vegas, good value though. I agree with you, but I like this movie just because I like John Brown. And and I'd rather have John Brown and Marvin Jones who got a lot more money, or a J. Green who got a lot more money. I think he he'll matter like we do the winners, and I do the winners and losers on the website, and it's like, yesterday, Derek Carr is a loser because

they lost Rodney Hudson and they're losing, agil losing. And then it's like today, well, actually, Incognitos coming back and you've got John Brown, which I'm fine with, the John Brown Fragilar trade. That seems close enough. It's like, okay that maybe today Derek Carr is a winner. This is John Brown deal is the kind of deal that I think the Patriots would have made. They weren't like cracking open piggy banks this this offseason, I agree. Which nobody

has those anymore. And that's a stupid reference. My kid does. Okay, you might be surprised to learn Mark that, Bob, my kids have a Godzilla piggy bank. No, I mean, well, that's not a piggy bank by nature. It's not that it needs to be shaped like a okay, but I'm just saying that if adults used to have them for some reason, they don't anymore. I guess it has to be the shaped as a pig that qualifies the piggy bank.

I always thought that was more just like any type of little kids like bank holder things just called a piggy bank. Is that how deep your vegetarianism goes? You would not even support a piggy bank inside your house, Mark, No, I would. I mean, my children have little cups with a hole in the top to put coins in. But I don't call I don't walk around calling that a piggy bank. All right, you know, Mark, I this has

nothing to do with the banks. Yes, Greg, I ate something I ordered something to pick up the other week called that was yak chili. And whenever I eat some a little left of center, like eating some yak, I think of you because you always make fun of that. I eat like that that like us mediators eat terrible things. And you know that this yak was damn delicious. Well, I think of you when I think about things like that.

But I actually it reminds me. I had a dream last night that I ate um, like multiple strips of like crispy bacon. How was it? Is it a nightmare? You liked it? No? I think it was because I used to It was fine, but I don't remember how it tasted in the dream. It wasn't that that sensory part of it didn't click in remember that realizing I

did it. There was a night years ago Mark, you and I were out, Um, I'm guessing we were at the cozy near the office, and then we were gonna grab some food before going back to our respective homes and and and you know, letting our wives know we were still alive. And uh so I got a like a meat burrito of some kind, and then you got like a vegetarian one. And then do you remember this? Do you remember this? Yeah? I was like, yeah, like

the meat somehow that was depositive. Some of them ended up in Mark's burrito and Mark Mark took a bite, and then flash forward like twenty seconds later, Mark is in a bush yakking it out, speaking to Yeah. They snug some sort of like like weird piece of pork or something in there, and it was yeah, it was not good, a weird piece of pork, all right. Moving on, the Washington football team signed quarterback William Jackson, formerly of the Bengals, three years, forty two million. Good to be

a cornerback. Uh he gets twenty six million guaranteed. The former first round pick in two thousand and sixteen, Bengals choose to let him head out the door and Washington Shore it's up their secondary. So you can kind of you can tell how what positions are hard to find because there are there are no good cornerbacks left on the market. There weren't that many. There weren't any to

begin with. Practically, Shack Griffin went to Jacksonville, William Jackson there and there's no there's not really any offensive lineman left, like the top twenty five is pretty decimated. Other than the receivers. Well, you do have a bunch of big name receivers still out there that we're waiting on. I was gonna, I was gonna hit um who's left in a second. Let's do eight o'clock to light sure? Is this drop okay with you? More? Yeah? This is pleasant.

The Colts bring back Marlon Mack. Of course he blew as Achilles last September, but he's coming back to India. I love Marlon Mack. Nice backfield there, Taylor Phines mac Trevor Lawrence is the number one overall pick or he's about to be for the Jacksonville's Jaguars. And now there's a report out there that they're taking calls on Gardner. Means you what kind of market should meets you? How about meets you? To Denver Sizzler. I love Gardner Minshew,

but I don't know if you. I don't understand why people would be calling as a starter. That surprises me. The line straight for Michael Brocker's and son Jamal Williams little salary dump. The RAM said it was confusing how they got under the salary cap. This was this was kind of part of it. This was a just total salary dumb They basically gave up nothing to get him

good good player. Right. But this is incredibly juicy because Brocker's um went on record after the Rams acquired Stafford and called him a level up from golf, and he's been shifted in Detroit where he's back with level down. God good, good, hang off outers the Browns. They take a shot on Tack McKinley, who was a disaster for the Falcons. How you feel about this one, Mark, I mean I kind of see like who knows, like they

didn't pay him much. He seems like a replacement for Adrian Clade worn, not like their guy across from miles Here they play like up four to five as a base so maybe seed be time to keep finding edge dudes. Al Right, the Chiefs say goodbye to Super Bowl hero Damian Williams, who opted out least year. You know, this gets me thinking, like because the c J. Mosley trade rumors around the Jets, everybody was so it was so big and everyone to say and report it as is

his right. He is opting out of the season because of COVID nineteen. And I'm not making light of COVID night teen or what anyone's personal situations were. But yes, perhaps this is right, but it is maybe not in your best football interests to disappear for a year, and that might be the case for Damian world opt out revenge.

The last time we talked Damian Williams, I remember is that the Super Bowl, A hearty debate with with our friend west Um where he thought Damian Williams maybe deserve that m v p M. I kind of enjoyed that because I got sandwiches on that one. West was all fired up. I remember that. Also, Oh my old friend Lamar Miller fourteen time making the leap uh nominee on the older round the NFL blog days. Uh. He is back in the league. According to Greg's notes, Washington. I

don't know. I saw Lamar Miller. I was like, Wow, first day signing Lamar Miller, let's get danz Old buddy into the show. No, that's good. I just just throw throw a W A S in there next time. Not really headline news on any website. People have no idea what happening. But Greg very nicely, you know, we'll take turning. But Greg has been great this week about sending out here's like the eighteen or nineteen headspinning things that happened.

But sometimes Gregg's sentences are very complete and you know exactly what happens. But there are times when it's hard to decipher, and I think Dan you ran into some of that. Typically I have more in the way of preparation time. This week obviously has been very busy for me. Um so I was kind of flying blind there off Greg's notes and it got it got me there. I

didn't know where Lamar Miller ended up. I didn't have a chance to look that up, but but I did give you the information you really needed, which was marks Greg's notes or Dan's buddy Lamar Miller back in the league. Yeah, that was that was what was key. I mean I don't think it's gonna make a big here. Uh. Speaking of big splash, there are big splashes uh still to come. Um, I'm gonna pull up your old boll Well it's not

it's from your old boss's website, Mike Florio. Uh. Sharene Williams wrote the top twenty five remaining free agents, Greg, is that on your radar a little bit? You right? The top one oh one? Now you have someone that's coming in off the top turn buckle with an updated top list and maybe makes yours a little bit. I don't know yesterday's news Jack, you know saying what it is. No, it's not concern, especially because I just checked and I was wondering if the editors were going to do that.

At some point they start chopping off the players who have been signed, and if you go to NFL dot com slash one on one, you see the best available. Now that's that's what the list is there right there, all right? So according to Sharene, and maybe I should go over to Greg's list after that, I passioned reply Kenny Golladay, here's some here's ten big names still out there.

Kenny Golladay, Anthony Harris, the Vikings safety Jujuice Smith, Schuster, Hassan Reddick, the edge rusher with the Cardinals last year, Troy Hill Rams cornerback, Mitchell Schwartz cut by the Chiefs last week. The tackle Will Fuller still out there. Uh, Carlos Dunlop, A J. Boyer, and Mitch Trabinsky amongst the Hey, some some veterans that are named brands, but buy or beware at this point, Patrick Peterson to Davean Clowney, t Y Hilton, Melvin Ingram, all big names still looking for work.

I mean, was that like an order her order because some of the here because eight or nine was, yeah, agree with her order? Well, some of those names towards the top, like boy A, Um, Trabinsky. There was a couple of others that seemed curious. Um, but I also have Clowney right now is the second highest, which maybe and you wouldn't like Curtis Samuel. I did I hear Curtis Samuel in there? Uh, he's on the list. I didn't mention that's a spicy one. Um. There it is best.

All right, here's Greg's best radiance available, since he's clearly angling to get this listed. No, I mean you basically just set him off, throwing at Dorry Jackson, Malcolm Butler, like, there's some other names, and you said, you said my top one, so you have, but you have. We were talking about this yesterday. Clowney is your your second best available option left now I just can't get on board

with that. At what point does this guy not get the benefit of the doubt you have Golladay, Clowney, will Fuller, Samuel Juju, Mitchell Schwartz, justin Houston. Interesting there, Hassan Reddick, t Y Hilton, Carlos Dune up at Dorry Jackson, David Andrews, Anthony Harris, and then well, who would you put above Clowney or how many? I wouldn't put too many of those? Maybe some of those. Here's the thing. I like him.

Maybe I overrate him this year because I was sort of anticipating, like I like the idea of buying low on him, and whatever he's played, he's still productive. Not last year, but that's he's still twenty eight. Uh, you're gonna get I'm gonna get him, get him at a discount. Man, Doin's got to do something here. The Dolphins will sign one of these receivers. But That's been one of my surprises early is in terms of quiet teams that the Dolphins haven't really done much. But I wouldn't surprise me

if they signed David Andrews the Patriots Center. They've been rumored too, and I think they will sign one of these receivers, whether it's Gola Day or maybe Fuller. Buller was really good last year, and I know he had a ton of injury issues before last year, and of course the season ended on a p D suspension that actually carries over one game into Those are all obviously red flags, but he's a good bye logo on sign

him on a short term deal. He'd fit in Miami, He's fit almost anywhere, but put him in New England. They they should sign one more receiver. I think. Um, all right, that's it for today's show. We have one more show this week on the podcast side of things, and then we have the television show Around the NFL broadcast on NFL Network on Friday afternoons, and make sure to set your DVRs for that in those overseas. I believe you can access it via the game Pass app.

I believe. I don't know. I hope so I seem we We do get a lot of tweets from people overseas with a with a nice frosty beverage watching our program, so I guess there is access to it on some level. There must be all right, good And speaking of overseas listeners, happy St Patrick's day, irish out there. And speaking of other you know another overseas listener that has some power out there? How about our old bosses at Sky Sports.

I know they have a Sky Sports NFL channel, So if you are listening, you know, Mace, whoever it is, Uh, let's get the around the NFL broadcast on that channel. What are we gonna do? That's way over our heads. But it's award winning content that they can just take and PLoP right on their on their own at work and delight many. So what are what are we doing here? I mean what awards did you win? Oh, the two

thousand and thirteen Best New Podcast Award exactly Apple. And also we did win a Stitcher that a former producer had shipped directly to apartment, So that happened, Erica that by the way, And Kate, I don't know if you're picking up what Greg's putting down there, but that would be something that would probably fall under the producers tasks. Oh, the guys just had a good idea. Wait, this guy sports thing. It would be unfortunately, I think that's good.

Ricky is the producer. Can you connects with the producer over there? Mace, Hey, the guys had kind of a fun idea. I don't know if you caught it on the show. I bet the listeners overseas would love to see the guys. Is that something that could happen? And that's just that's how a producer gets starts the ball rolling. But this feels like it's these are some shadowy league figures at the highest levels, the type that who are making these decisions that we're that we don't even are

in contact with. I mean, we we largely circumvented then to even beyond sky. So why don't we just go a step further and give them our television show without a learning them. That will go over fine. I would say, if you send it sent a pirated version of our program uh to United Kingdom and other territories, it will be a good test about on a lot of levels, like where we stand with the company. I mean, I don't have too many questions about where we stand. But alright, good, alright,

good stuff. Keep tuning in, we'll keep turning out the content. Thank you for listening. This is Dan hans Is signing up for The Quiet Storm, The All Boss Ricky Hollywood till Thursday. Do you get the call