Draft Weekpalooza Day 2

A game in forty. You know everybody loves that. He used to be Game in thirty. Mark, I know both you and West. That was a sensitive subject. Um. Some people like the draft more than other people. Me. I love like certain subplots around a draft. I like the how things shake out after the draft. But the draft

itself is not the easiest watch for me. Draft in forty give me the first round with go all through the picks, give me a little bit of the analysis from our team and some highlights, um, and then any other drama and then you. Instead of a three or four hour exercise, I could just do whatever I want on my Thursday night and then plug in and watch draft in forty like, what am I actually missing? Uh? In fact, what am I gaining a part of my

life back? Well, well, so let's start here. You're missing nothing, um. And I love this. It was even this morning that I was thinking to myself, you know, this is a King has No Clothes scenario because we can hype up the draft all we want. And I think the process and the lead up um, and they're intrigue around certain plot points is wonderful television. And I was the kid that would sit and watch the entire thing when it used to be on one day way back in the win.

But um, let's be real, it is um. It is used as a television pick. And Mark said in Criss Crossed Applesauce in front of the Radio, No, no, but I mean they didn't spread it out over like you know, a long weekend. It used to be you know, they an incredibly ponderous long television event. Um. But now you know they've done that even more now. I mean remember Mike MAYOCKX, UM, I thought appropriate annoyance, um when there was like a baboon um like the cults pick in

Round seven. It's just it's it's absurd, it borders on numbing. Yes, they do have that option. I wouldn't be surprised. I think it would. It would be heartbreaking for most of the country that loves the draft because I think to a lot of people I've talked to, so many like Draft Night is better than any game all year, and they want the whole thing. It would be like the same way you'd feel about, you know, the a Jets playoff game versus watching condensed or even worse worse than that.

So people want to eat it up. I do love Draft Night. I don't If you could give me the last two months in forty that's what I would go for. Give me everything I need to know from the last two months of draft coverage in forty as a condensed um signing up for that. But I love I love like Draft one. The most fantastical thing anyone has said so far this podcast is a Jets playoff game. I don't even know what that is anyway, that long ago. What do we got? I mean, it's one of the

longest droughts in football now about over a decade. But um so yeah, So you go game pass round one and then you could do rounds two through seven, and forty minutes. Also, that's I mean that third day, that third day, I can just you can feel like the blood about to come out of your ears. They're gonna change. I just thought about this to last week we met. I was saying, how you know, the way society is now, Mr Irrelevant is not going to be lasting. Is a

name a monker because it's gonna be deemed insensitive. They're just gonna make him Mr Relevant and then give him a little blue ribbon with his parade. Mr Brave? How brave you to be the last? I can't I want this sandwich? Do we have the sandwich Undrrelevant? Yeah? The sandwich wager is and by the way, go get my lunch. Draft edition is coming up tomorrow, so make sure you

check it out. The wager is in the next five years, Mr Irrelevant gets scrubbed uh from NFL dot com and in general as a cultural thing around the draft, to a more sensitive name that celebrates what the athlete has accomplished. That is my prediction in five years. And if it's it's a five sandwich prop Greg, I'll give you five sandwiches in five years. Okay, great, I could. I'm really excited about this one, and you remember to your condensed drafting.

I mean they have condensed to remember. It used to be fifteen minutes per pick in the first round. So I think they could go even a little farther, make it like five minutes per pick, and let's just would be a wild, would be a wild couple of hours. All right, nice show coming up, Carbs back with us. Chase Goodbread, one of NFL dot COM's great college football writer and reporters, is going to talk to us. He's

he's embedded down there in Alabama. UM and UM, you know, Alabama has been a hotbed at the top of the first round for the last two years really for her, but this these past two years especially, So I want to talk about UH some of these UM Crimson Crimson Tide guys and UH and other other draft related UH situations around UM as we get closer to the draft. Also, we gotta do some news, gotta see what's going on

in our league. So let's hit it. Rick. UM, I can't guarantee that anybody in the world will be alive Sunday, so I can't guarantee who will be on our roster on Sunday. UM, So that goes for all of us. Wow. Kyle Shanahan digging in in his uh Monday press conference talking about the number three overall pick in the NFL

Draft held by his forty Niners. That was in relation Mark two questions about the future of Jimmy Garoppolo and whether he is still a part of the Niners going forward, and uh, Greg, as you put it on Twitter, that was very cessil in. Yeah, even like the look in his eyes the way he said it, because there's a way that you could say that, Yeah, that I think could have been more of like of a existentialists like

live in the moment. To me, that's like a positive way to look at life that we might not be here on Sunday to enjoy like what you have there's there's nothing guaranteed. But that didn't feel like where he was coming from with that. It felt it felt dark and it felt like a darkness coming over Jimmy Garoppolo's

tenure with the forty Niners too. Yeah. I took that away from it too, that I think Jimmy g will be somewhere else, didn't It always kind of feel a little absurd this song and dance about how Jimmy g is excited and how upfront the Niners are with him, and he's gonna be a good little boy. The only reason he'd be a good little boy is because of the money, because he's not gonna go with the money if he got cut. But if he the best scenario for him is to get traded and retain the what

twenty six million dollars he's meant to make this season? Mean. But the Shanahan's have always um kind of had their ups and downs with the media. I mean, Mike Shanahan number when we started at the NFL. He at that press conference where he walked out UM when reporters were jabbing at him about um, the concept of leaks inside the team. I would just say this, if you're Kyle Shanahan, Yeah, It's like, why, um, why share secrets with a bunch of ham and eggers? Why spill things that you hammon

eggers because they work in the media. What makes him like a god where he is? You're saying he he can do whatever he wants with these plebans beneath him? Is that what your angle is there? I'm just saying, I'm he has to work with them in terms of doing the press conference, but why, like you know, is Jimmy G gonna be traded? Like, sure, let me give you a full dossier on what we plan to do with Jimmy G. It's like you asked these questions. I'm not going to answer them. I'm not going but how

they answer him is instructive. And it doesn't surprise me that there's some report, you know, CBS aid one where yeah, they think Jimmy G is gonna get traded this weekend. And I think, you know that an answer like that, you know, did give it was a good way to ask it because it gave I think a little bit of information that that maybe Jimmy G will be on another team, that they're not going to go through with this.

Who knows what's happening in the conversations between Jimmy G and Kyle and that he said that they've had and the big headline is that the forty Niners like five quarterbacks uh as they said at the number three overall pick, and they're like five better than Jimmy G. It's kind of it's kind of insulting to Jimmy G. Let's let's listen to the general manager John Lynch his thoughts that came out of this press conference. It's been an incredibly

thorough process. But ultimately someone's got to be charged with making a decision, and in this case, it's the both of us. Everyone has you know in your contract you do this. The draft is mine. But I told Kyle from the beginning that this is he and I are doing this together. And when it comes to quarterbacks, I'd be foolish, I believe. Um, we have a head coach who's also our offensive play caller. I will always defer

to him. And uh, you know what's cool about that is that Kyle, I think, respects my opinion enough he always wants it. And ultimately we arrive at decisions we will, and come Thursday, we'll have a pick that hopefully makes everyone proud, but that will be judged in years to come. Okay, here's the part of that quote that I found interesting because it does speak to the way this is all this goes down. Um, Ultimately someone has to got someone has got to be charged with making a decision, and

in this case, it's the both of us. But that's not what it's. Ultimately someone decides who that guy is. It's not something that they necessarily agree on. It comes down to one person that decides for the organization, and that is if you're looking to dig in to some intrigue behind the scenes here and maybe why there's little edginess in Kyle Shanahan's voice when he's talking about things that maybe there's some bumping heads here. Go ahead, Mark, No,

I was gonna say, you hear that. Like the football side, you know under John Lynch that those guys are into They're not into mac Jones. That's not who they want. But but if he does, if he does, then he you We're going to find out how the power structure operates here. I think it's Kyle Shanahan above all the rest. Right, I'll tell you how it is. It's Kyle Shanahan, it's his team. He essentially hired John Lynch. I think that gets forgotten. The order of who gets hired matters a lot.

Now officially Lynch is in charge of the draft, but Shanahan got hired. There was like a little process between when they got the GM when when Shanahan was still the o C of Atlanta and he basically rubbers stamp Lynch, who we talked to he essentially interviewed and hired Lynch And Okay, yeah, it does make sense. Of course he should pick the quarterback. But the edginess you talk about, Dan, I think could have something to do with these reports

coming out because Kyle Shanahan's no dope. He knows where these could be coming from. They could be coming from inside the building, and I think that could be very frustrating. And I think there could be a frustration inside the building because I think you can look at Kyle Shanahan and recognize that he is the best play caller in league.

He helps quarterbacks, I think more than any guy in the league, but that he maybe isn't the best quarterback evaluator ever because he's the same guy who passed on Watson and Mahomes so that he could take C. J. Bethard and talks of beth word he and everyone wants to say, well, Garoppolo fell in his lap. No, he's the one in charge of quarterbacks. Garoppolo has been his guy for three years, whether you like it or not, like has he been pristine in like orchestrating the quarterback

position in San Francisco. Now he gets a chance to get his guy so I'm I'm looking forward to that, and I don't really doubt him making a choice, But I think I think there is something going on here in terms of the front office in Shanahan. Keep tracking it. Trade went down today Tuesday. Uh. Ian Rappaport broke it that Washington the football team acquired Eric Flowers to tackle into late round draft pick from the Dolphins, who sent

back a excuse me, who received a late round pick. Uh, it's Flowers, who was drafted back as the first rounder. They gave him a three or thirty million dollar deal. Twenty of that guaranteed didn't really work out. So now he goes back over to Washington and we'll see what

happens there. What does this mean, Gregg in terms of going forward with Miami and their pick at number six, A lot of people think it might be them taking Pena Swell if he's available at six, or possibly Rashaun Slater a tackle because now they need a write tackle.

I mean, Flowers wasn't playing tackle, but they drafted Robert Hunt last year who played some tackle, and he's probably gonna move inside and uh and so it would make their their trade down from three to six would also make a little more sense whether they're taking a playmaker or not. It's like they ultimately pulled a swap where they got some picks, moved from three to six, and

now they're looking at a tackle. It just continues this trend though, of them moving on from guys fast Shack Laws and Kyle Van Noy, Eric Flowers, Jordan Howard all signed big contracts last year. None of them made it back to the team this year. And he's on his third offensive coordinator in three years and his second and he's had two defensive coordinators, so they they a lot of guys. I was gonna say, is that a sign of a coach that knows exactly what and has great vision?

Or or is there something often how how this is coming together in Miami. I know he's made progress, of course, floors and deserves a lot of credit for what he's built so far, But there's a little bit of I don't know, it's there's a lot going on there. It seems. I mean, the Eric Flowers and Kyle Van Noise of the world, they overpaid for average players. They're not stars. They're not moving on from foundational pieces. I think they overpaid for them because they tried to get that roster

up and running in a hurry. It was a real mess. But um, you'd like to see maybe more one one or two year deals more cost efficient that that maybe one of the I love the front office, but they haven't been totally perfect. And if they take Fuel or Slater at six, that could put Caroline in a bad spot.

Who wants one of them? And it so I think is going to lead to something happen which happened last year, which is all these receivers everyone loves end up falling because there's so many of them, because you know that it feels like you can get a good one in the second round, and so maybe there's not as many of these like Alabama receivers which we'll talk about going in the top ten that people thought. I also would not be shocked if the Dolphins moved down again. I

mean this is just a team number six. There could be a lot of intrigue if there's a run on quarterbacks, which there will be, and someone is viewing number six as the place they can go get justin fields Miami. I don't care who they're they may be hot on um, they seem like more than any team in the league willing to move up and down the board at their leisure.

In other news, Kyler Murray, entering his third year in the NFL at the Arizona Cardinals, former number one overall pick, was on Good Morning Football on Tuesday, and he was asked whether he has any input on selections by Arizona and whether general manager Steve Come considers the QB's opinion when making Troy is Here's what he had to say. I do believe. I do believe. I think I have an influence in it. Um. I don't know why I

wouldn't you know. I think, you know, if you've got a guy quarterback and you trust him, and you you know, you want to be the face of the franchise for you know, a lot of years, I think he should have influenced just because I mean everything, you know it's technically built around the quarterback. So, UM, I think I have that relationship with Steven in Cliff and UM, you know, I'm excited to see what we do on Thursdays. It feels like that's where football and sports are going. Your

biggest stars. They're not just the guys on the field putting up the numbers that are involved if they're at that high level franchise quarterback uh and certainly is the top of the heap. Um, I feel like they should have a voice and should be in the decision making process to a certain degree, do you guys agree? I mean, I would just say this, like yes, to a certain degree.

I think you want to build a bridge with your stars and and they, especially if you're a quarterback, you want to feel supported in her and I think so we've seen some organizations the Seahawks kind of bungle that

and you suddenly you're in a place of chaos. But I would just say this too, that for the like the regional scout that is spending like six straight months and like blasted out motel rooms, um, you know, putting together massive you know, dense reports and all these players, the idea that we get to a place where your star player has equal time in a draft room as that person. I'm not that's the scouts who deserve respect

for putting in the work and grinding. But when you're a Kyler Murray type player, you're a quarterback, you are kind of a football savant. So I feel like that guy has just as much I should have just a loud of voice in terms of knowing what's talent and what's not and who can help and who can help.

I think, well, I'm not saying that he's not talented, but the idea that you're that you go, you go take the scouting department out for beers after making Kyler Murray of the decision making processes certain extent, it's just it's just another voice. And especially if you're talking about receivers or something like that, it is interesting to know he this is sort of it's not new for Kyler.

He publicly campaigned for his old UH teammate Ceedee Lamb last year and uh, that would have been a nice pick for them in hindsight, and there and there pick Isaiah Simmons had some big struggles. It's only one year. You don't want to get to I wonder who maybe better pick. Maybe it's connected, maybe that he stews about that a little bit and just hasn't spoken up on it um And maybe maybe the Browns should have led Brandon weed and organized the three drafts after he was

picked by the team, right Mark, Mark's fired up it. No, I just find it slightly absurd. I mean, it's like like, just because you're great at quarterback, you should be. I look at I'm with you. It's just it's lip service. Just let them feel like part of the process. If you find out you've got this person that's like a true wizard. Okay, but I wouldn't assume. Just to be clear, Brandon Weedon was a terrible, like thirty four year old

rookie quarterback that never did anything in the league. Kyler Murray is widely seen as one of the great young stars in football. There's a difference. Sure, go wait and eate again. You know what I know it's gonna be a good Cessler show. Oh man is when he uses the phrase good little boys at some point. This is like what Cessler has different phrases which kind of like pop up as they get hot and not and good little Boys is a hot one. Now when you got

the good little boy dropped early in the show. Well, I am annoyed at myself, and I will tell you something because I made a major mistake, which just revealed how big of a fool I am when I when

I don't do my homework. I wish our friend Matt money Smith a happy birthday because I had seen someone else wish and happy birthday, and so I just jumped on it and uh, you know, put out a tweet and all these people think it's like three or four hundred likes and Matt well, so Matt, Matt texted me and he's like, hey, man, like, um, I should actually read this to you. This is like, it's very quintessential Matt money Smith. Um, thanks for the birthday wishes, brother,

very kind of you. It pains me to say, I don't don't know why my Wikipedia page, which I didn't even that's where I got it from, is wrong. But for whatever reason it is. My birthday is in August and I've never updated it. So he was back, I was like, should I keep it up? Should I take it down? And said, let's just keep it up because who's going to remember in August that this happened. Let's just get you a lot of likes and love on this weird little Monday. But what a fool I mean,

like he I emailed him and said, happy birthday. I wouldn't beat yourself up over it. It's no big deal. I'm not beating myself up. It's just like another you know, like you know the mistakes like, you know, I got a few tweets yesterday it was like, by the way, the Johnny Manzel draft was not nine years ago? And it all also wasn't nine years ago? Was nine years ago today? How could how could you make that mistake? And I was like Tommy Lee Jones and the fugitive,

I don't care, calm down, who cares? Um? I mean, I thought it was. It wasn't like I purposely got the time element wrong. But you're really gonna fact check me on that. We had a full little to the day though to the day feels like I must have like it was. I mean, now we're giving a time but I think I must have seen April six. Maybe that was the upload date of the YouTube video. I don't know. I don't remember exactly why, but everybody relaxed. It was not nine years ago, it was seven years ago,

and it was seven years ago this week? Happy? Now does that make a better show? Is that? Is that what you were looking for? Right? To me? Also, birthday wishes are like a state of mind, so I think it would be totally appropriate if all our listeners, you know, sent birthday messages to Matt money Smith. Now still like after the fact I think they let him know that you care. H Two more news items and then we're

gonna get the carbs on here. First, new Vikings cornerback Patrick Peterson is the first player to take advantage of the NFL's new relaxed rule on jersey numbers. He's now going to be number seven. Seems insane to me, but again, as not a huge college football guy. Uh, seeing cornerbacks run around in secondaries at number seven, like that's not something I've ever really seen. So to me, it's like, I don't know, it's like Mickey Mantele wearing number seven

and playing catcher or something. It just doesn't add up. But Peterson's he's happy. Now we know greg that he has to buy out the existing stock of his old number. He's a team, right, does that count because he's on a new team, So maybe that so he doesn't have to buy out the jerseys and drop him over, drop him over an orphanage or something like Alvin Cook said his would cost one point five million, and he was like, nohing and finally in the news and this was interesting

to me, But also I have to be honest, be fuddling. Uh, the Chiefs tight end Sean Culkin um I imagine no relation to mcaulay and here and the rest of the Culkin gang. Uh. He announced via Twitter that he will be the first NFL player to convert all of his

salary to bitcoin and culkin. He doesn't have a guaranteed roster spot with Kansas City, but if he could become Travis Kelsey's backup, uh, he would be paid dollars by the Chiefs and U s dollars, but in turn will convert that to bitcoin, and you know, you got bitcoin and you got an f T and all this stuff. Sometimes either it's me not having any type of economics background, or be just getting older and just being a little disconnected.

This stuff confuses me. So I decided this would be a good time to introduce a new micro segment I call it micro seg on the pod called Money on Money Hit. Bitcoin is a currency, so if you're on boards and your own currency trading, think of it as a dollar. I think probably the better way to run a parallel is gold. Right, if you own gold, you don't you kind of own the physical gold itself. I suppose you could figure out a way to get your hands on it, but really you own um the idea

of gold. You loan shares of gold UM and you can trade in gold. A lot of people have gold to balance out their portfolio to protect against um different directions of inflation or a volatile market. You know, gold has been around for what five thousand years as an anchor. Basically, what Sean Fulcan is gonna do is get paid in whatever his regular paycheck, and then he's just gonna take that that paycheck to a place like coin base or where some particular market base that trades in bitcoin, and

he's going to purchase the pitcoin. I think that would be no different than him taking that paycheck and saying I'm gonna put my entire paycheck into the smp UM or I'm gonna put my entire paycheck into the dial either their NaSTA. Seaun Culton, I'm assuming is trying to angle for some sort of endorsement deal or to be part of a company that would be interested in hiring him um to promote and sell the idea of bitcoin. There it is, well, I mean, it would be smarter.

Just now, I think we all just got a little bit. I mean, he's like, it would be more ironic if Matt money Smith actually were bad with money or had no interest in money. But the problem is he I'm like, what Netflix show should I watch tonight? Like, and he's like digging into like deep portfolios and stuff. There's different types of people and different he added, there's his portfolio um consists of a sizeable portion of it has some

type of Bitcoin leaning. So money is money on money is a segment that's on fire already because you just know it's come from somebody that lives it. I mean, his name is money. I mean, I don't know how this isn't already a part of his life. How he's not getting paid to do this. I'm like CNBC or whatever, what is the financial one? It's yes, I believe it's that. That's it. That's it. I think that was very informative,

and it's good you asked him. He gave like a very education educated answer, because I think that's part of part of the problem with bitcoin. There's just not enough people, you know, who will talk to you, talk to you about at it, like even when you don't want to hear about it. It's just like I just wish like the bitcoin people would be a little more aggressive and like talking to everyone about it. You know, it's just like I need to hear more. So let's come out

come at us. Gregg is, Greg Is, I don't know where he's coming from sometimes with the arrows that he slings in all directions. So here's where I'm coming from. The worst people on Twitter are the ones talking about bitcoin. That's where I'm coming from. I can find some people that can compete with that. That's an auto auto mute. That's an auto mute. All right, that's what's happening. And I didn't know. I had no idea Greg that that

you had that take. But maybe there's some really good people out there also that are they're they're probably good people, but it's kind of like it's just like a religion. It's I'm all for people doing whatever makes them money and happy, but when they're pushing it on you aggressively all the world, right, well, that there's a lot of

carry over there. There's a lot of carry over there. Yeah, it's like this limey stockbrokers of the eighties are now like these type of people that are in this advanced currency if you will, like you're not you don't understand money. I'm in the future and you're in the past. It's like, okay, bro, condemn. We'll put our pants on one like at a a time. See now I'm on gregside. Now that what I don't understand. I'm not against you. I just it's a world I

don't I'm a child in the in those realms. All right, that's what's happening in the news. All right, man, Pink Floyd. That's a good band. You know. It's another good band, the Drive By Truckers. And when I think of the Drive By Truckers, I think of one man, Chase good Bread, and we welcome him in. Now to the Around the NFL podcast. There he is. I call him Carbs. But this is a dude that eats during draft time. He eats all the knowledge and then delivers it to us.

What's up, Carbs? I don't know where I was going with that. Good to be back on here. How are you all good? It's been a while. What do you have it's been a while. Yeah, it's about annual with you guys. But I enjoyed every year, so for for sure. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the draft, probably gonna not not in Cleveland this year. I've been some years, not others. This is a night year and so uh, I'm happy to fire up to grill and do it that way, right, nice beautiful Carb is a man that knows how to

have fun down there in Alabama. And you know, cards, it's kind of fascinating symmetry here with these last two drafts. So of course, last year, uh to ah goes fifth overall in the first round. Um, Henry Ruggs goes twelve to the Raiders, Jerry Judy to the Broncos. So all Alabama products products. This year, you're here in mac Jones as a top five pick in the first round, and then you have Davonte Smith and Jalen Waddle that are projected to be fron half of the first round guys

as well. This is pretty wild. And I know it's a football factory down there, but this pretty hard core. Yeah. Two quarterbacks and two two quarterbacks and four receivers across two years, um, all maybe in the I guess in the top half of the first round. It is. It is pretty crazy. The the receiving corps that too have had at Alabama. At one point, Jaden Wattle was the number four right because he was he was stuck behind

Devonte Smith and Rugs and Judy. It's I don't think I'll ever see a deeper college receiving corps in my lifetime. I really don't than those four. Uh and Smith and Waddle. You know, that's been a fun discussion for a lot of people. Who's who's gonna get picked first, Who's gonna be the better pro and all that. I like Waddle a little bit more than Smith as a pro, which which kind of cuts against the grain because Smith is the one that had a monster year. Uh And I

think Smith will be a good pro. I don't buy into this wait stuff, you know, him being two small. I think that's largely kind of media creation. But I do think while I was gonna make a little a little bit better pro, he's he's a faster, he's faster, he's he's got more shake and bake in the open field.

He's crazy good as a return guy. Um, if you wanted to, if you wanted a comp from me on Jayden Wattle, I would say to you, if you remember Dante Hall, the kicking specialist, the return specialist with the Chiefs. If Dante Hall had been an all Pro receiver along with being an all pro return guy. That's what Jayden Wattle is gonna look like in the NFL. To me, m that's why I still not ruling out him going

to Miami and six. This this trade they made and some talk that um that they'll take a tackle there makes like more sense. But I you know, you look around people kind of in people you know they wager on this. We can talk about this now and in this new NFL like the idea of like Wattle or Smith who goes first, it would not surprise me at all. Carbs, if the a lot, if a lot of NFL teams agree with everything you just said in that because of that Wattle actually goes off the board first, it won't

surprise me a bit. And and it's a shame that he busted his foot pretty bad against Tennessee and missed most of his last year at Alabama. But there's lots of film on him, even even when he was a number four his freshman year, which I guess would have been two thousand and eighteen. Uh, he was you can see flashes that this this guy is gonna be a pro. There's no doubt about it. He's just too fast. He's too quick, he's too good. His sophomore year he was.

He was dynamite as well, although again behind Rugs and Judy, he didn't get a ton of catches, so uh, not a lot of mileage on him, I guess when you look at it that way. But for sure, he's a he's a special athlete, and I think he's gonna be making big plays and and returning and returning punch and

kickoffs and in a big way right away. You know, Carbs um Tomorrow around this time, my mock draft goes live before the Nation's the eyes of the nations, so there'll be some surprises there, but like you know, not surprising a lot of Alabama players. Um. Patrick's certain. I'm not going to reveal to you or anyone else where I placed him, um, but it feels organic, it feels right. Is he the most short thing? Could you make an argument that he's the most short thing in this entire

first round? By the way, I want the audience to know that we know Chase good Bread very well from the years back at different events, but not on a day to day basis. We don't work together, So I don't know if Carbs had a very like straight faced I don't know if he thinks Marks being dead serious about the mock draft uh and was taking in Strider if he knows that was all in jest. But either way, it's it's funny to me. I like it now, I

get it. I get it. The world is waiting with bated breath for Sessler's for the tiniest of minutia about Sessler's mock Why would why would they not? Absolutely, I'm gonna predicts going to the Cowboys. You know now, he'll have to change it if he did that, But I'm gonna predict that him. Sergeant is a safe pick though, Yeah, no doubt he's. Yeah. I got a chance to watch him at his pro day up close. That was on Marche, and yeah, you could tell the scouts were buzzing about him.

His vertical jump, the broad jump, all that athletic stuff. He ran a strong forty or dash. I think his forty was in the four fours. He's got the tape. He started for Nick saban as a freshman, which tells you a lot because Nick saban Is is a defensive back. He's not only a defensive coach, he's a defensive backs coach. He calls himself the highest paid dv g A in college football. UH. He's always with the dvs and practice and he's been a big startan fan from from day one.

UH has worked him some early in his career. He actually worked a little bit at Nickel in that slot corner spot, and then he's he he ended up being more of a full time guy on the outside. He's plenty big enough to play outside, but if an NFL club wanted to drop him inside, he could handle that. To you. I'm fascinated though about these teams that are taking cornerbacks early and teams are like, okay, that upgrades

that position, that's a safe pick. When was last cornerback to come into the league and make a difference like that is a tough position right now to come into the league and be good right away. I'm not saying that they don't eventually, but it wasn't last it wasn't

the year before. Yeah, that's though, So that's that's tricky when when you're drafting top ten, certain seems really like a safe pick and it's exciting, but I do wonder, you know, towards the top of the draft, if that's gonna affect any team probably not because everyone needs cornerbacks, but it just seems like it's a trend right now. Linebackers are a little similar to like guys that have

to cover. They're getting they're getting flayed, like like, no matter who you are, if you're coming out from college, maybe it's just a two or three year thing that it's been something on my radar that none of these cornerbacks have have had a great transition. Curtan seems like a unique guy in that he he knows the game

so well. Maybe you could avoid that. Yeah, for sure, the cornerback spot you used to you don't hear about it so much anymore, But it used to be if you if you get drafted as a corner, you can't cut it at corner, right, we just move you to safety. Well, safety is not nearly as valuable as a position at

corner anymore. The separation of value to me in those positions is widened, and so you know, if you're if you're a bust of a corner as a first round pick, even if you do move to safety and flourish a little bit, it's it's not the same as having a guy who can lock down a big time receiver on the outside, not nearly the same. Hey, Carbs, I want to get back to this draft and specifically some SEC sleepers,

because I know that's your area of extreme expertise. But I do want to touch on the Alabama class um and to a first and foremost, because there's so much, so much speculation around him, how he's gonna look in year two and how the Dolphins are potentially putting him in a spot where he's gonna have huge upgrades around him, uh, in an Alabama type set up in terms of skill players potentially, Um, how did he look to you last

year in Miami? And then I'm curious also about Rugs and Judy, who had very kind of up and down rookie years themselves. Yeah, they did, for sure to a struggle at times, There's no doubt about it. I think that club weapons he yeah, he he did. He did. I'm not I'm not gonna say the hip was was was a problem for him necessarily. I think they just they got to get more weapons in there for him.

And it doesn't matter if they're Alabama guys, great, if it's somebody else, you know, if if if it's Caadarius Tony at Florida. Whoever it is, Uh, get some people in there for him who can who can lie it up the secondary. I think you'll see a lot of improvement from him. Rugs and Judy were up and down for sure. Judy had a lot of drops with the Broncos, was never drops were never a problem for him at the college level, So that certainly surprised me. He was

never really on the same page. I don't think with with Drew Lock. I saw one particular Broncos game, uh late in the season where we're him in a lot just just could not connect at all. Lots of frustration for sure, on on both ends of that, and and and Rugs. You know, he just didn't He just didn't get enough balls in his hands. And so I think he's got some developing to do himself. But you could you could still there's flashes of explosiveness with Rugs that

you can't deny. He had one game for the Raiders where he was two for one eighteen. He had another game from the Raiders where he was three for eighty four. So he can get downfield if he can get the ball in his hand with with two uh out circling back to two of there. I think one thing that jumped out to me was how much dink and dunk was in his game and how much do you like at Alabama? Was he a guy that you believe saw

was like a guy was attacking downfield? And you think if they do surround him with the right guys, he changes the way he played his game because he was not a lot of fun to watch last year, to be totally honest, right right, he can absolutely go downfield. He's got a lot of velocity on that arm. I think he's I think he's the most talented Alabama quarterback i've I've I've ever seen frankly Um. So you know, he doesn't like to check it down, but I think

in Miami he probably had to. Was told to, was coach, to what have you. But uh, you know, there's there There's no question the guy can push the ball down the field. Now that the differences to at Alabama, he could hit a slant or a screen or some kind of short pass to one of these four receivers we've been talking about and that will turn into a fifty yard touchdown. So um, he got a lot of big plays at Alabama through that they had a they had a couple of slant plays that that nobody could stop.

They were rpo plays. But but they they ate ownes of yard Is doing that kind of stuff. But in terms of zip on the ball and being able to thread a needle, you know in the intermedi and the eat your intermediate level, he can do that. They're they're so fascinating because in theory there they were in position they still are at six to take another quarterback comparing him to Mac Jones, give me a couple of comparisons him to Mac Jones. Who do you think was a

better prospect? They think they're probably more similar than people think. And and Naza Harris compared to the running backs that have come out of Alabama lately. Because I'm wondering if any running backs get taken in the first round. There's a lot of buzz that the Steelers may take him Harris, but it's also seems possible that like no running backs go in the first round. Yeah, it could be. I liked in terms of just straight talent. I like to

uh more than Mac Jones. Jones had a great year and no doubt about it too, is definitely the better athlete I think two has got more zip on the ball. I think he's just as accurate. I think he makes decisions just as quick as Mac Jones and so uh. If I was grading him as prospects, I would have two uh higher than Jones. Uh for sure, Harris. You know, he's an interesting case. He's not the fastest guy in

the world. As productive as he was at Alabama, he didn't break a bunch of fifty and sixty yard runs at all. Uh. He's and he's an exciting player with some great athletic skills. Uh. But but you really, I don't in four years at out and all this time at Alabama, I'm not sure he broke a run more than fifty yards and so and he never ran a forty yard dash, by the way, no combine, he didn't. He didn't run the forty at his pro day. He had an injury through the spring that he was kind

of rehabbing a little bit. So I think that's a question for some clubs, for sure. But the guy can catch the ball, he can go between the tackles, he can make people miss. He's big for a guy who's so light on his feet. You know, he weighs two hundred and thirty pounds and in the open field sometimes he looks like weighs about one nineties. So uh. Tons of of athleticism for sure, but not a game breaker, not in the NFL. He he won't get loose from his own twenty and put it in the end zone.

He's not He's not that fast, you know, Carbs. Uh, we haven't seen you since we lost our friend West. And when I think about West and when it came to you know, he maybe not have been the biggest college football guy of all time, but he was a tape watcher and he was a lone wolf. Like the whole society would say this player is looking great and he tells you, no, he's not, and he'd be right

so often. So I wonder if there's um a guy out there that you're kind of a lone wolf on where you know, the the whole college side and the draft knicks and all the stuff we're saying we love or hate this guy, and you just don't you feel differently? Um? And secondly, like you guys were both big green egg fans, Like what is the perfect kind of big green egg um project for it? Maybe not the first night of the draft, but like those that long weekend that follows

these endless picks that go on for weeks. Time to cook something? What would you be cooking? Yeah, if I had the time, him would be a would be a brisket. But a brisket is just I'll answer the second question first, just a more fun question. But uh, brisket. I love to do it, but but you gotta babysit it for

for a long long time, ten twelve hours. Sometimes probably not ideal because I'm actually gonna be working during the draft, so uh in order to juggle uh nfl dot com draft weekend duties and the grill, I'm thinking something hot and fast, you know, steaks, something something like that that can get done quick. As for an SEC sleeper, somebody, I think somebody, I think that that West would have liked.

I'll give you Seth Williams, a wide receiver from Auburn who's probably gonna be picked on the last day of the draft. I don't know why. The guy's hands are unbelievable. He's unbelievable in traffic. He can he can make that back shoulder catch. He's got great body control, you know. I don't know if he's the fastest guy in the world. Maybe that was the issue. I don't know what he ran, but uh, Seth Williams is gonna make some team. Uh really fine third day pick. I think anybody else in

your sec sleeper watch. I like Tray Smith, the the offensive lineman from from Tennessee. Uh, he's gonna be a mid round guy. I think he's got a whole lot of potential. I thought he looked pretty good at the Senior Bowl down in Mobile. He's had some medical issues. He had some long issues actually that kept him off the field and hampered him early in his career. He got the medical clearances to get back on the field for the balls and uh it was was dominant pretty

much the last couple of years. If you go back and watch twenty nineteen tape of of Tennessee against South Carolina, he handles uh um, he handles the slipping slip in my mind, the defensive tackle from South Carolina that went first round last year. Thank you, Thank you, Greg he nominating kin law Um for the most part in twenty nineteen. If you go back and look at kin laws last year at South Carolina, which which was nineteen nobody blocked and Mike Smith did mm hmm. That's why they call

him Chase good Bread. Well, his mom called him Chase good brushy game in the name. We call him Carbs, and you always deliver the goodness, uh, Carbs, and we hope to see you uh down the line. We've all been separated for all long, far too long now, So whenever we do see you again, perhaps we will celebrate over a big green egg or something. Who knows looking forward to it. Fellas take it easy right there, he goes. See, we have we have these sparrows that are helping us

out landsier line. Yesterday Chase good Bread uh. Today tomorrow we have a special guest, someone that has a lot of skin in the game, I'll say, when it comes to college football. Uh. And and that person we'll be able to hopefully give it, hopefully give us some information. I want to touch on something that just kind of a follow up point before we say goodbye and again remember the Mark Sessler mock draft. I want to touch

on that as well, is coming up tomorrow. Um. We were nominated, of course for a Cyclops Award, and um a lot of people wanted to know whether we came out on top. I believe it's actually the Synopsis Award Awards show. I don't know, I have no idea actually, and uh, you know, we were not nominated in the Innovators and Disruptors category. I was fine with that, but Best Podcast Series Series felt like a lock for us. I mean we were we got a nice little show here,

but we didn't win. They gave it to Chris Russo, of all people digging up the passed with Chris Russo. I don't know what that is, um. And so we we take another l and it is starting to feel like with these awards, and we are of course best New Sports Podcast. Apple Podcast two thousand thirteen got that in our back pocket. We got the what's the award that was stolen by our producer Spotify or stitch Stitcher

got your stitcher, not not the current producer. Um. But now they're starting a bit of a Marcus Susan Lucci thing going on for us, and I I just I don't think it's right. I don't think it's fair. I think we've got a nice little show here and it's time to start getting some hardware to and be rewarded for it. Well, it's the one thing I'd say is I don't. It doesn't sting as much for me to lose to a a friend of the show, but a childhood hero. I don't know if I We've talked about

this a billion times. I don't know if we'd be here if it weren't for Chris Russo. Russo even know that he won the Cyclops That's I guess my issue. Well, I wouldn't be sure of that. I mean I would suggest he maybe someone told him and he thought rate and you know, moved on with this day. We might have been a little more zeroed in. But um, you know it that it irritates me on on other levels. UM, I will think about it. Um, but I don't know how to Greg help me out here. I'm not sure

what it doesn't care, it matters very much. I'm rewatching the Last Dance right now? What had When was it? It happened a few days back. Um, I was watching rewatching the Last Dance the Jordan dock and it's like when B. J. Armstrong um hit a dagger shot too and the Hornets beat the Bulls in Game one of like the ninety eight Eastern Conference semifinals, and then Jordan's like, oh, I'm just gonna ruin your life now. Um, I have that in me when it comes to these awards shows.

In fact, I declare vengeance on the entire awards industry. Related to the podcast, I just think it's time to stop being Mr. Nice guy and maybe we start getting some trophies. Well, yeah, the money dropped today was you know that we're filled with upside, but our our track record which show we're we're a little more like them. What what's your guy's name? Landon Dickerson of this draft? Like we got a lot of hardware early, you know,

but we're just kind of plugging along right now. You know, not getting Randerson is going to make someone very happy, a team very happy. The rock solid man in the pivot, great leadership, great player. I am tracking him hard. I'm gonna actually check in on Landing. Um wait, did he go to Alabama? Did I'm with on asking Chase about Landon Dickerson? Oh no, I actually, you know what, because

I was organized. We organize our questions. Unless you're some sort of savant maybe, but I'd like to you know what, know what, I'm asking carves ahead of time, and I decided to not even touch Landon Dickerson. I assumed that Dan, you would have like three or four of questions about his person brutal. I'm gonna I'm gonna hit him up privately. Landon Dickerson, Who's my favorite back? We could call him

back right now? What happens, because I mean, after Zack Wilson, He's he He's the only guy that I'm really tracking in this draft. Um, he's in my draft in forty um round up, um in my mock I have the Jets taken Dickerson. Landon Dickerson at number two. So you can be sure that you get your guy, don't worry. So this is and yes, so that's what's going on. Vengeance declared on the awards industry. U'm not I'm not being a nice guy about it anymore. I'm demanding what

we demand to be taken seriously. That's that's my message to the award industry and Mark, I know you demand to be taken seriously in the mock draft game. And I've noticed this, there's a little bit of an edginess with Greg toward your mock draft, almost like he's trying to kind of deflate it a little bit. And I want to say I personally, I'm not comfortable with it because I know it's sneaky. Does mean a lot to you to be accepted, uh industry wise as a serious

football man. And I think when you rise up in an industry, you're going to UH, You're going to experience a wide range of emotions from the people around you. So you know, I think Greg is watching Um, someone that he works with, take off like a rocket into the draft space, and I think that's uncomfortable for him because probably he thinks I should be the one. I'm Greg, I should be the one doing the mock draft. Why is this clown Mark Um? You know, you know, in

charge of this area. But you know I got there first. And it's not just getting their first, Greg, it's excelling at it. Um. I was. I did a marvelous job last year, and I planned to absolutely blow the community away with what I prepare for you this time around. No, I'm with you, Mark, I mean I think you you looked around the football landscape and you saw a need you know what I mean, you saw like a hole in the market place in you were like, this needs

another Mark draft, This like a mock draft. You know, during draft week we need another one. I'll just say one thing, uh, Mark, just because I don't want you to, because I know you have a lot on your plate already and I don't want you to be have more anxiety ahead of the mock draft to reveal tomorrow on the Around the NFL podcast. But just because you got there first doesn't mean you're safe. Because Greg just ran up a column a couple of weeks ago called power Rankings,

which was a little shot across my bow. So just know that there could be a Rosenthal mock draft. There will never be another. There will never be another draft. No, that's instructed, Dan you, Thank you. I will I'll mull that. All right, good stuff, big show come out tomorrow. You heard it. We've been teasing it. Thank you to Chase good Bread. Uh. One more show tomorrow ahead of the draft, and then we dig in with a big Thursday night show. So make sure you tune in all week because we

got this thing covered, we got it unlocked. They don't give us trophies, but really the only trophy we need is you, the listeners coming back every show. That's not true. I want the physical ment. Yes, all right, this stand Hanson signing up four Quiet Storm, gil Boss Ricky Hollywood behind the virtual blass until Wednesday. Keep the Ball