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DRAFT WEEKPALOOZA DAY 1

Apr 26, 20211 hr 7 min
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A room filled with some heroes – Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal and Colleen Wolfe bring you all of the latest news around the NFL starting with Marc Sessler’s elation over a pick at the draft 9 years ago (9:00). There are whispers of Julio Jones being traded (12:30), the Chiefs add Orlando Brown to their offensive line (17:53), and Sean Lee retires from football (34:00). Lance Zierlein joins the show to NOT talk quarterbacks in the upcoming draft (36:17). To close the show, a Jets legend wishes Dan a “Happy Birthday” (58:59).

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Be Around the NFL Podcast, Opted out of Training, Canada. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis comes to you from a virtual room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. Oh but that's that's not all. It is drafting And because it's draft week, you're kind of full slate of shows, special guests. Up the butt. Weird choice of words there, Yeah, very perfect. Yeah, but that means a lot got butt on your mind. I guess, I guess so up the wazoo,

which is I think the same thing. Anyway, there's a fourth on the show today and it's been too long. Hit it riggy. It's one of them heroes with the news. They're not that knocks y'all. Mary take us out, he repeated, The might have the traveling I like this history is

very very rich. Yes it's Colleen whoa. And yes that was one of Connie, one of the part one of the participants in the makes make Connie's theme song contest not a victor, but figured we'd bring back one of the honorable mentions and that you know that one, as the kids say, slaps, I don't remember that one being so good. But I'm really into that. I like it.

I'm just going to ride around. I feel like that's the first time we've heard that song um since Colleen was on and was picking her quarantine house the same show where No, don't say it, don't bring it up, where she said the mayor of New York was like strikingly handsome in a comment at that time that was a popular opinion. Had I known what I know now, I would have absolutely not put him in my quarantine house.

But we all make mistakes and we learned from them, and I learned a lot from that day and that exercise. Don't worry that Gregg is deeply embedded in cancel culture and has an updated notebook for anyone who gets removed from society, so he's on that beat. I was wondering where you're going with that, Greg, and then I saw Colleen's face turned sour, and I was like, Oh, he's about to land a haymaker here. And it was the Cuomo.

It was It was it because Horby is important. Well, I mean, there was a lot we didn't know back Colleen's defense. Mark also is going to change gal Gado to a radiator to teach her a lesson at the beginning of the pandemic as what's the problem with that? We were all in different places. It was, it was a tough time. I stick by that um modus about Berandi. She's missed his draft. I mean she's got her own podcast about the draft. Yeah, what's going over that? Tell

us about that? How did it happen? How's it going? Okay, it's good. I Uh, That's why I haven't been on in a while, because I've been doing this. You know, it's weird. I've never It's a lot different than the like doing the shows on the network, doing a podcast and just with one other person. So, as it turns out, work working is a lot of work. So I've been really busy with it. But you guys can check that out on the clock. I've talked to a bunch of

different prospects. Uh. They all have some really funny, cool different background. Store it's been. It's been nice. It's been a learning experience. Dan, who's your faith? Who's been one? If we were going to check out one to start with, where would you start? I like the the Justin Hilliard one UM was good and then also Benjamin St. Juice

Um juice, it's he's French Canadian. I've been having a hard time saying his name, which is problematic because promoting it is an issue if I don't really know the cornect the you know, correct way to pronounce his name. But he has so many different fun acts, including one that he gave a pair of Jay's to the Pope. So there's that. I'd love to see you sneaking a like a fake person who just see how many people catch up to be like this is a from the

Wilderness prospect. We love his story and then totally create a deep fiction and see if anyone notices I'm down, will you do it with me? Yeah? Okay, well that's my draft knowledge in a nuts Felso make sure you check out on the clock with Connie fox Um do that. And also, you know we have we have so many great resources for the draft with it it's just what seventy two hours away at this point, ninety six hours away?

Who's counting. Later on today's show, Land Zero Line, another favorite of the show, draft analyst for NFL dot Com NFL Network works down in Houston. He's gonna join us UH to give his takes on what's gonna go down in Cleveland, and Connie, You're gonna be in Cleveland as well. And I always love your role at the draft because you're very front center on NFL Network in a lot of ways with the programming, but this is the one

where you're amongst the people. And as an added bonus, uh, the always on the edge of insanity, Michael Irvine is with you, so that feels like it's gonna be great. You're you're part of the live show for NFL media, right, So well, we are the in venue, the people that come out in between the picks and basically entertain the crowd. So we're like draft hypemen and it's really probably one of my favorite assignments of the entire year because it's not serious at all and I'm with Michael Irvin for

the whole night, so it's always fun and entertaining. What's Irvin like like because we've we're kind of kept in a bubble um. We're like the kids table of NFL media. But the secret to it is like with Thanksgiving dinner, Uh, the kids tables where the fun is. So it is we don't really there left alone. They're like left alone. There's rules, we don't strive to sit at the grown up table at NFL media. We like where we are,

but sometimes there's some drawbacks. So that means like Michael Irvin's always at the grown ups table, so we've really never really interfaced with him professionally, so I only know him the way the public does, which is kind of this high, amped up guy. He was always yelling and fired up about something. What's Irvin like when you're like just sitting on a couch in a green room. Is he just like big show coming up? Looking forward to this or is it I can't wait for this show.

It's gonna be amazing. Where is the ladder? It's the ladder. It's ten out of ten energy scale all the time. And I think we all know that I really belong at the kids table. I was just somehow dropped onto the the adult table into that mix. Um. But Irv is.

Irv is like that all the time, to the point where we'll be having a production meeting for Thursday Night Football and he will come in like straight from the gym with his workout gloves still on, and he'll start doing He'll start doing a whole thing just to himself, and we're like, well, who's he talking to right now? Is he is this part of the show and he's just doing his own sort of sermon off to the side to the eggs like it's uh, it's really entertaining.

Reminds me of Mark before some of Our Lives shows in the past that I am. I would say, it's a chore for you, Colin. You have to keep up that in Michael Irvin level energy yourself the entire time, so you know, maybe put some things into the blood stream that will help that become more of an organic process. Well, I will say, like the next day, I basically just have to stare at a wall because I'm drained of all life and creativity and ideas after something like that.

That's true, though, but you also you also essentially play the straight man on this or the straight woman to Urban, so you don't if you had to match Urban's intensity, like your head might explode by So it's almost better that you you're just yourself, your Connie, your chill, and then he's doing his Irvan thing. It's a pretty good

buddy cop combo. I gotta say it's perfect. And the first time I ever did this was when the draft was in Dallas, and they had me with Michael irv and in Dallas for the draft, and I had never worked with him for one segment, one show anything before, and I was so nervous about it cause I'm like, what is this gonna be? Like, I really don't know

him that well. We've never really interacted. And now having done multiple drafts with him and Thursday Night Football, it's so easy to just put the quarter in and let him go because now I know what those buttons all are. It's great, very good, very good. Well Connie. Um, we're just happy that you're back here. You've never forgotten your roots. We've always we've really always liked that about you, and

that's why you're the tiny box. So before lands Airline, UM, let us get caught up on the news in the NFL. There's so much news that's happened. Oh Ryan here kills one away. It's a boy on Christmas. Christmas is Cohen, I don't know what's I don't know, Mark Sessler. It is nine years ago today that we were sitting next to each other at Radio City Music Hall and the Cleveland Browns selected Johnny Manziel I believe with the twenty

two overall pick in that draft. And I'll always remember it because before everything went south for that draft, and that was a very bad draft for the Browns. Uh, looking back, that was a great night in New York City because it felt like there was a lot of excitement around Manzille and uh, you know, it didn't work out, but we always had that night. Yeah, what a simpleton in a rube. I was that evening. But I I

couldn't know the future. I mean, I think a lot of people had a reason to be excited about the fact that he was going to be a quarterback somewhere, and I, you know, I should have known the minute that had happened. That check, who seemed to have arrived from the future, was just jabbing me left and right with verbal questions, you know, knowing how this thing would turn out. And uh, you know, what a doomed affair. But maybe Justin Gilbert was the worst pick. I mean,

that's the crazy thing about all that. M M. I mean, Johnny Manziel and Tim Tebow are reminders that none of these draft analysts or teams know anything because those were popular picks at the time. There were tons of highly paid draft analysts who all loved Tim Tebow in the first rounder, Johnny Manziel in the first round, Honk, and

that night, like the Browns had changed everything. I just being together with everybody for a moment like that, because now we can't do Now, we can't be in Sessler's face like with the camera or anything. It used to be a lot more fun. Makes year next year, maybe one day we will be again. And what you don't see, and that's a somewhat famous YouTube clip within the annals of around the NFL history and you can find it

if you care to seek it out. Um, what you don't see in that clip is literally right running alongside us on the aisle while this was happening, as Drake, who was like best buddies with Johnny Manziel at the time, and he ran right up and you saw him run up the stairs into like the green room area. I guess to celebrate and begin the partying for Johnny Manziel, which really went on for the next five years or

so and maybe it still is, who knows. But wherever you are, Johnny Manzel, I hope you're doing okay, buddy. And you're doing okay. Mark, it's you know, what's interesting for the last And I don't think Baker has necessarily been a slam dunk, like you know, you're set for ten years, but he's been good enough and has had moments.

And the Browns coming off a great season where you haven't even been discussions for quarterback pick in the draft for four years now, which is a big difference from the previous like ten to twelve to fifteen years of your and um, yeah, but I also noticed that like that, what that visceral reaction that came out of me due to a football maneuver like that hasn't also hasn't happened in five plus years. So I need to, you know, I need to look deeper as to why that's why

that's occurring. Let's do some news. Let's start with a nugget from Peter King. And I think it's important to note here because Peter King himself made sure in his Monday Morning Quarterback Colum to note that this was not his report. It wasn't based necessarily on hard info in terms of something coming imminently, but the fact that he put it into his column four days before the draft.

Is interesting. Uh. He reported that he would not be surprised if the Atlanta Falcons traded Julio Jones this offseason, and rap Sheet then added on his own reporting that the Falcons are quote at least toying with the idea of trading Julio Jones. He's thirty two years old, he's coming off with a year where he's been banged up. But Mark, this is a guy who means so much the organization, but it's also an organization in transition. Where do you come down on this? Well, I feel like

I've been banging this drum about cap situation. Hang on a second, and now it's done for another edition of Mark Sessler threats about the Falcon salary cap situation. Go ahead. Well, I noticed that the topic bubbled up suddenly on NFL Network today, as if it had become relevant in the wake of this news. I mean, King also notes they don't want to They mentioned how many players are under contract with exactly that they have an NFL low fifties

six players. I just checked before the broadcast here and they are about six million under the caps. So the part of this is desperation trying to like get the roster under control because there are questions about how they can. You know, at this point, even like you know, sign the rookie class, you can't really move Julio Jones before June one. I mean, you wold agree to something, I guess, but like, this isn't the Falcons wanting to move on

from Julio Jones. This is the Falcons like sort of saying, look at we're kind of ft here, and a couple of teams, maybe a team like the Raiders who you could see doing something like this coming and taking Jones is huge salary away from Atlanta. I think it's all intentional. There's a lot I don't believe during draft week, and number one is that like that this isn't all on purpose.

You know, Peter King puts that in his column on the same day that Ian reports that teams are asking to trade from on the same day that Albert Beer puts it in his column. Like the Falcons are putting this out there. That's my sleuth work. I'm not. I didn't ask Ian or anything. So I think they're coming into this offseason knowing Julio Jones might be on the roster, probably even on the roster, and they can easily fit them under the cab. You can move money around. I

don't think that's a huge concern. But is he gonna be a part of their future, that's an open question. Is he gonna be on the roster next year, that's an open question. Let's put it out there and see what kind of offers we can get. And the key thing in Ian's report, I think was that they might agree to a trade now and it wouldn't be you know, executed officially until after June one. And then they say fifteen million dollars in Kaeperman, who knows what they get that.

It's a little complicated, but I think this is saying it's putting up for sales sign on Julio Jones saying if we get enough, we we would deal him. That contract is fully guaranteed too, so they can't they can't cut him. They would have to trade him to break

free of that deal. And who's gonna it's gonna be tough, I think to find maybe a taker, just because of the money and that contract, and also the fact, like his injury history, didn't play half the season last year, so there's that, and the fact that like obviously the Falcons can't be thrilled that they gave Julio all of this money and then he just didn't live up to the production of that deal, whether it was through his own fault or because of the way that the team

was constructed. But for me, I'm looking at this and thinking, Okay, so does this signal that they're going to it's a rebuild at this point and they're going to take a quarterback because they're going to sell Julio, try to sell him to get out from under that cap space and make some other moves. Or does it mean that they're going to take Kyle Pitts to replace Julio as a pass catcher? Very, And I mean, I feel like, and

I understand this could go sour. Maybe not a J Green's age thirty two seasons sour, but you know, very it could be a shaky movere You give up good draft assets and you take on this big salary and then he's off the field for half the year and then you you have egg on your face. But if you're a team that's right there and you feel like you need that that last piece, I feel like he's

a great roll of the dice. He's I mean, he's an all time player and I think I don't know, Greg, when you were watching the tape on Jones when he was healthy, did he still see like Julio Jones to you? I know, Calvin Ridley has eclipsed them in some ways statistically, but he still feels like a big time player. Julio

is so explosive. Last year, Julio was left off m Last year he made more big plays than usual when he played, and people think of him as injury prone, but that was really the first year where he's missed significant games was last year. The question, I guess would be like, what is a fair price? It's really tricky. I think teams would be fine taking on his contract, but do you want to give up like a real deal draft pick to pay that conjuct? That's where it

gets a little complicated. Or are you just saying, oh, we'll take him from you Atlanta, but we're not going to give anything up. It's that seems like a very tricky kind of thread or needle to thread. He has a broken foot season, by the way, he had the broken foot season in twenty thirteen, and he's been banged up a lot. But Greg's right, for the most part, this is a guy that plays fourteen to sixteen games every year. UH, and and he is your guy. Speaking

of what's fair, what's fair of value? I I found this really interesting trade. A big trade went down. The Chiefs continued the the do over in the makeover of their offensive line, acquiring Orlando Brown, the tackle from the Baltimore Ravens, as well as the fifty eighth overall pick in the draft. That's a second rounder and six round selection from the Ravens in exchange for the number thirty one overall pick in the first round on Thursday night, a one third and fourth round pick and a fifth

round selection selection in the draft. A lot of pieces here. Um. The big picture and the most important end of this is that it's another major move for the chief I wonder you know, not to get off track here, speaking about seller cap, how do you pay Orlando Brown if he has a big season as your left tackle this year with all these other contracts you have in Kansas City?

Not my problem. I'm not gonna worry about it. But the big picture here is that they really have done a great job Kansas City rebuilding this line, knowing how important it is with the best player on earth, UH playing quarterback. Uh, and then what's the value mark? This was interesting going back to Peter King and we were talking about the Jimmy Johnson trade value chart, and there's all other trade value charts that are floating around the NFL.

But to get this specific trade in place, they they relied heavily the two teams on a chart to figure out how what is Orlando Brown worth right now? And it's just interesting to see that how the sausage gets made there. I think part of it is Baltimore, Um look at I don't think they ever wanted to lose Orlando Brown. They're doing right by him because his goal, and he talked about this, and the reporting is that he wants to honor his father by playing left tackle

his entire career. He's twenty four years old. I don't think outside of quarterback, there's a tougher position to go find like a blue chip player, guaranteed player at than left tackle. And the Chiefs have done that. We spent five weeks, you know, fretting and moaning about what would happen to their offensive line, how would they handle this bang? Here they are, they have Orlando Brown next to Joe Tuney Austin blythe Kyle Long and Mike Remers, and they

could get Eric fisherback or someone else. So it's like they're in fine shape. And I love this for the Chiefs. I don't really care how much it costs for the Ravens. I mean, I don't know. I guess again, I think they try to honor Orlando Brown and do the best they can. They got they got picks in return. But I don't like to trade at all for Baltimore. I just don't a bit of a bit of a bet, you know, a bit of a dare too to trade it to the best team in the a f C. I see it a little bit as a bet against

Orlando Brown. I mean, I think if they thought or they have choice, yes, you you definitely have a choice. You you you can call his bluff and say, you know what, you're not gonna play football this year. Like he wanted to go, but he wasn't banging the drum that hard. You know, you could have kept him. They already paid Ronnie Stanley, the highest paid left tackle in the league, so they probably were looking at a situation where they weren't going to pay him both. But he

you know, he came into the draft. The reason he slipped round three with some maturity questions or whatever. I don't know what's going on, because he's played really well. But to give up that good a player, uh, to the Chiefs feels like a slight bet against him. And you've got a lot of picks. I mean you got a first, the third, and a fourth. I mean that's

a lot. You know, they can be you know, it could be a bet against them, or it could be at the end of the day, they're like, where it's the best value we can get for this guy if we know he's unhappy and we don't see him as our future and he's just so happened to be this team that is in dire need of a makeover, you know, so you had a role in the first and a third and a fourth instead of one year of Orlando Brown. Basically, they I think they made the decision, you're not going

to give him the contract next year. That's a lot. That's pretty good. I would trade that. And because the Chiefs still have to give him that contract, it doesn't come with it. It's very expensive for the Chiefs. They wanted Trent Williams, but obviously he resigned with the Niners. So I think Orlando Brown did a good job last year filling in for Ronnie Stanley. Eleven games he played, and according to PFF, he allowed no sacks or quarterback

hits in seven hundred snaps at left tackle. So he got the taste of starting at left tackle, and that's what he's always wanted to do and that's what his dad wanted him to do. So I think that I like what he did. I kind of respect that he tweeted out, I'm a left tackle and then this happened. So if they were betting against him, I hope that

they were wrong. And the Chief's offensive line, they also get Laurent DuVernay Tardif back because he had opted out from COVID, and I think one other guy too who would be a depth kind of more of player. But they have a lot of options now and that was their biggest problem coming into this offseason was the offensive line there in Kansas City. I mean, from Orlando's perspective, what if they took the four of us and stuck

us into the I T department. You're working Sundays or people calling you up saying, you know, I'm having issues with Cisco connect. It's like I jump out of a window, so I would fight for what I believe I should be in doing with my career too. So more power to him, right, And he's got the Chiefs over a barrel like Tunsil had with the Texans when he got traded there, because they sort of have to give him a huge but they know that right now. They know that,

but they haven't done it yet. You know, it's like they still have to make it happen. They know that, and they're gonna have to give him the top of the market contract. I mean they at Mahomes obviously signed a half a billion dollar deal, tyreek Kill, Travis Kelsey, Joe Tuney. As we just said, we got paid the biggest guard money in the league. Um, Frank Clark, Honey Badger.

You would think if he plays at a level that they want him to and he's a quality left tackle, they're gonna have to make some hard decisions for other established guys on the roster to get this guy under a long term deal. And that's where all that leverage comes in. By the way, Connie, what what have you done to honor your father? Um? I learned how to fly? Oh what an answer? What else next? Uh? What? I don't know what I talked about the jets for a living.

I feel like that's pretty good. Um, but your dad air traffic controller for decades and he flies himself. I imagine he's a flight instructor. He was in the Air Force, and so he taught me to fly. So when I was in college my freshman year, I was going to flight school and you know, all time college at the same time, and I put in some good hours. So

that's what I've been doing. First girl, the first time I met your father, he also said that he witnessed the UFO while flying for the military, so absolutely he did well. Plus you set up the Dad Convention. What is that called Dad's Week It's the Dad's Summit, and I'm just happy to announce it is coming back this year. But we're doing it the weekend before Father's Day, so everybody mark it down. All right, we go, The Dad's Summit is coming back to so Cal. Alright, moving on,

here's a report from Ian this morning. My understanding of the forty niners situation is they have narrowed down their choice to too and obviously you mentioned Trevor Lawrence goes one, Zack Wilson goes to the forty. Niners are at right now either Alabama quarterback Mac Jones and which go to Stage quarterback Trey Lynch, which means they are unlikely or not to take Justin Fields at number three. Alright, So according that's it. Justin Fields is out of the discussion

at number three for the Niners. Uh read the tea leaves on this one. Greg. I'm into the conspiracy theory that this is a bunch of hokum like um. From that, maybe even and I'm not saying I have any information here, but maybe even is pushed down from the highest of the high at the NFL because I have heard things or whispers in the past, and I think you can.

I think you can just look at the public coverage as a fan over the last five years, whether it was the Jared Goff Draft or the Baker Mayfield Draft, and like how they've tried to keep as much uncertain going into draft night as humanly possible. It's a TV event that the teams have cooperated on some level with this in this draft where one to seem like everyone knows what they are already that, Uh, that's something's going

on here that doesn't smell right. I mean, it defies credulity that like that, that that the Forts haven't decided their pick three days before the draft. Of course they decided their pick. Give me a break. I think they decided to pick a long time ago, to give up everything that they gave up to get to three. And with the Robert Sale connection they have, they obviously know exactly what's going to be available to them. So you're telling me that they gave up all of this draft

capital to not have a certain decision. I mean, there's there's no way. But then I text a couple of people here, a couple of people there, and I'm hearing like, okay, I think it's Mac Jones or I think it's Trey Lance. So I have no idea. I don't understand. We still don't know who it is. I'm not saying I know it's definitely or that anyone should feel like they know who it is necessarily, but it feels like, hey, what can we report? We can can we at least cross

out justin fields? Can you let us do that at least? And it's like okay, because it's not just our network. It's it's the main network. I mean, it's the ESPN two that is reporting a similar thing. So it's like, okay, let's cross off Dustin Field. At least we can report that, but we're not allowed to report anything else or we don't know anything else? Is it FN two reporting like the Jim wrote Jim Rome Show and all lower case

letters ESPN as. I mean, I think it's fair that like they moved up to number three, perhaps weighing between a couple of people. I mean, there are reports that you know, the scouting staff is really into uh Lands, but maybe you know Shanahan is not, and so there could be some battling inside the building or at least

I guess, just discussion. But to me, like it is, um it, it magnifies the utter absurdity of these lead up weeks, right because we're we're studying this like the like the fans of a show on Reddit, like what's going to happen in the next episode that I think the show is in the can like we don't know, but they know, And it's just it highlights the utter absurdity of Twitter. This week, um football, Twitter to me has gone utterly mental. I mean, I just like none

of them. This is all the diners don't care what anyone thinks. It's their prerogative, and I I don't think that they're running around with their hair on fire wondering what to do um on Monday morning before the draft. In other draft speculation news, several teams, according to Tom Pellicero, have been making calls about getting into the top ten of next week's excuse me, this week's NFL draft, including the Patriots Greggy, who could have their eyes on Justin

Fields if he begins to slide. Listen. In the past, you would say that's not a Patriots move. But and we talked about this with former Director of Pro Personnel there Scott Pioli UM on our network show on Friday. You know, the Patriots aren't doing very patriotsy things right now. Look at their free agent spending. Is this the year where they get crazy Greg and move way up and get that QB. You gotta you gotta put in the

groundwork ahead of the week. So that makes sense to me that a lot of teams in that In Fields, you know, just putting my cards out there as a patrioty and that's what I that's what I would want. That would be the dream scenario is for them to end up with Justin Fields. Whether they're trading up or not. I'm not so sure about Trey Lands. And it's not like they haven't done it before. They once they traded up for Chandler Jones and they traded up for Don't

High Tower. It's like, think, you know, over time, if they have a player that you would really want. I I like it because you look at some of the teams that are up there, like Detroit could see them trading with them Carolina, Like you can see some organizations that they could that they would make a deal with,

and that would that would be fun. Put I would ask this like, I mean, if there was a scenario where the Dolphins at number six allowed New England into their spot to pick a quarterback, that feels like something

is rotten inside the a f C East. But number two, if I'm the Detroit Lions and you're their new general manager Brad Holmes, who spent the last number of years hanging out with less Sneed in New York, and then trade for Jared Goff, do we really believe that Brad Holmes and less Snee didn't drink like a hundred whiskies together. Discussing the shortcomings of Jared Goff, you think that the

Lions are sold on Jared Goff. That was a move to help both teams, and so what do you do they don't allow that if the Lions don't pick Fields at number seven, if he falls to them, I'm mystified as to what their purpose is because that feels like the place you have to get to to get that quarterback if you're New England. But the Lions never make decisions that makes sense. So I think that if Justin Fields is gonna go anywhere, I love I love the

fit in New England with Cam Newton. They're they're sort of the same type of mobile quarterback, and it feels like Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels they finally got mobile quarterback in there to try some different things. And maybe they're not done yet. Maybe they're just like they're curiosity now is just that we're just tapping into it and who knows it's gonna happen. But yeah, if if the Lions made decisions that actually added up, of course they

would get Justin Fields. I also think they're way more likely to just sit there and raft Caleb Farley, or like trade up for Jalen Waddle or something that you didn't see coming, or just sit there and take Michael Parsons like those seem like Patriot most I mean, you know, I'll say it again, the Falcons at four. If this shakes out in the Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson um and who what's the decision here? Let's let's say it's Mac.

If Trey Lands, this hugely buzzy quarterback is out there, If Justin Fields, this guy that some people are absolutely in love with, is out there, that feels like such a great spot for the Falcons to completely reinvent their roster with a trade that sets them up with assets for days. Go ahead, trade Julio too from back more assets and pade him to the Patriots. Send that boat that Belichick's got nine rings or whatever? What was the

Belichick Julio Jones draft connection years ago? There was sometimes did he bury him in a draft report or love him? I couldn't remember. There's something, wasn't there great? There there was that they I think they were interested in trading up, but then they also I'm forgetting the receiver. Whoever the Chiefs took that year that the Patriots had ranked higher than Julio Jones was stupid. Well didn't they give it too for most a new I mean, I don't know

if they're the best at evaluating wide receivers. No, they've been terrible. Don't bring that up on the show. Greg is still processing the most in the second round pick trade. Uh uh? Quickly, Panthers GM Scott Fitterer. So the team is gonna wait until after the draft to make a decision on Sam Donald's fifth year option. This has been kind of murky. It was out there right after the trade that they were going to pick it up, and

then all of a sudden it wasn't happening. Um, once again, I'm Sam donaldn't And Sam has a close place in my heart, and I hope the best for him. He twisted in the wind for months before the Jets traded him. Now he's right back there again, at least for a few more days. And he's just hoping the Panthers don't take a quarterback high in this draft. That's gonna put him in an even worse spot than he was with the Jets. It feels very Josh roseny Um just this

experience that Sam Donald's going through. Obviously they're they're different, but the Panthers they're keeping their options open. I feel like they're on the prowl right now. Sam Donald he's at home just waiting for them to come back. He's just maybe making some dinner, while the Panthers they're out at the bar checking out what's available, what the what else could be flying around and they're gonna wait to see if a quarterback falls to them at eight right.

I mean, Donald is their fallback option, and he it was not their plan for the off season. I mean, do we think that like David Tepper is sitting around with like feet up on the desk smoking a cigar. No, he's I rate. I think they wanted something else. And so it tells me that they're still maybe aggressively looking for to be one of those teams that moves up to get justin Fields or someone else and solves this issue.

I mean is if the narrative around David Tepper is indeed true, you've got a feeling he might have something up as sleeve here to make the big splash that he's been trying to make all offseason and hasn't been able to. And Sam Donald, God love him, doesn't qualify as a huge splash at QB right now. Finally, Shawn Lee, goodbye, young man. He walks off into the sunset at thirty four years old. Remember of the graveyards this year. But

in terms of real football, he announced his retirement. Five tackles Shy of one thousand for the Dallas Cowboys was really a lynch pin for them Colleen for many years, always dealing with hamstring issues and all sorts of injury stuff. But when he was on the field, there was a period there where he was one of the best. It's injuries were such a massive part and are such a

massive part of his legacy. It's I almost forget how effective he was when he was healthy because he dealt with so many different things a c L you're right, always a hamstring risk, sports hernia, a toe and neck, a knee, I mean, you name it. I feel like he had it. But he was so effective for them. He led the Cowboys and tackles in sixteen seventeen. And now you have Tyron Crawford who also retired. So those are two really huge leadership role guys. That are now

gone from the team. So DeMarcus Lawrence is the longest tenured Cowboy now and Randy Gregory is the second. So I think you and you haven't gotten a lot of service time, so I don't know if that counts. He's been like put it into perspective. Yeah, that's crazy, Sean Lee.

I always think of West when I think of Sean Lee because West was so early on how good he was, and Sean Lee was the classic like West guy where he would say you can tell who's watching the games and who's not um when Sean Lee was a young player and was so explosive because a lot of times, like the announcers would be like, you know, this guy's a hard working guy's really on top of things. It's like, no, Sean Lee was like one of the most explosive athletes

to play linebacker in the last fifteen years. Like he was a demon on the field, especially early. Like it wasn't that like try hard white guy cliche or whatever, like you weren't watching and what West was on him early? Yeah, absolutely, all right, that's what's happening in the news. All right, let's get right to it. As promised, one of our favorites. A draft wizard, I call him. I call him draft Wizard. And if it's trademark yet, maybe it's time that this

man looks into it. Lands Eero Line, the Man, the myth, the legend. Welcome back to the Around the NFL podcast. Man, what's going on, draft Wizard? I'm gonna I'm gonna look into that and see if anyone's got that trademark. Wait. Lance is holding a microphone right now like he's doing stand up at the improv. I like it. Still a little crowd work here. Who's hey, Look I see Cefler over there. Man, It's great to see you again. Uh, everything's still good with your mom? See that shut. I

got to ask your mom. Shirt, Go ask your mom because it could be like I don't know, why don't you go ask your mom because it could be like a rim or. It's also a real dad thing, like I don't know, go ask your mom. Yeah, what in the home? Lance? We have still a theme here because we know you're doing a ton of media and NFL dot com and network stuff right now. Um um, so you're getting inundated. I'm sure with quarterback talk, but we're this whole segment for the draft. We're not gonna talk

about any quarterbacks. How about that? Is that? Is that work for you? I'm fine with that. That's that's I'm always all guided when I don't have to do quarterback talk. Yeah, guard plays to ensive. That's like if my dad was a chef. All I want to talk about me some plos and in different types of knife skills. No, no,

I don't want to, but no online talk. I like talking online talk, but uh, the guard play, I can do it if I'm okay, and I'm kidding about the guy you think you're I'm not even humansf card talk, it's you know, cards are humans. Humans. Let's start here. Lance. It feels like it's like a very offensive heavy draft, especially early on. Uh you've mentioned the trenches by the way, defensive tackle, I I read it's not that's not a

great year for defensive tackle. What is there like a superstar defensive player coming out of this draft in your mind? I actually I think there's a few. Um, I think Pat Surtants and me is the best defensive player in this draft, followed very closely by Michael Parsons and then the guy that I'm a little bit higher on than everyone else seems to be in That includes NFL teams. I talked to is Jeremiah Wooster Karama from Notre Dame. I think he's got tremendous, uh, tremendous upside and potential.

I remember watching tape of from South Carolina State watching Darius Leonard, and Darius had filled up like every stat you could imagine, sacks, interceptions, tackles for loss, tackles, pressures, um fumbles recovered like any any statue ad. He was filling up the statu sheet. And uh, while Caramosa, I mean while Umoso Caramoa is not that same guy from a production standpoint, I see a lot of similarities, at least with the explosiveness the physicality. Think of Woosu Caramas

more physical than Darius Leonard was coming out. Um I don't think he has the instincts that that Darius Leonard had, But I don't care that these two hundred and twenty two pounds or whatever, that's irrelevant. I know that you know, Frankly, I know for a fact that that Darius has played in a two eighteen range. Two twenty pound range means that's wide receiver size and he's still stacking up the numbers.

So I think Michael Parsons, you know, from a standpoint of big, fast, physical, he's got all of that that you could possibly want. Curtains to me, is is the top five or six player in this draft of very clean cornerback and then uh a Woosu Carama. I think those three guys have the best chance at becoming superstars out of this draft from the defensive side of the ball. I I like the themes in this draft. There's a couple like how there's no d dresser that like, everyone's

got their addresser that they like. And the other is just like that the receivers are small of all the like slot receivers, especially that there at least their size profiles to playing inside a little bit more, and that all seemed to be projected anywhere from like late one, you know, through the second or third round. Do you have any of these like small receivers that gets lands eer line up and excited? Uh? With that question, it's Alijah More. I mean when I watched Alijah More this

year on tape. Every every year there will be ten to twelve and some of these guys, like I like a cornerback out of Michigan State named Shakur Brown. Where I really enjoyed watching his tape. He'll get drafted fourth at the earliest, maybe fifth. But that doesn't mean that they don't you know, I don't think they'll be players, or that I didn't enjoy watching her tape. There's a lot of times there's things that will prevent them from

being drafted earlier. UM a lot Jamore. When I watched him, I was like, Wow, he checks the box for speed. He's an outstanding route runner, UM extraordinarily tough. It really doesn't matter who's a lot of times you'll see a lot of wide receivers have the focus drops when they know pressure is coming uh into their catch space. It's you see a lot of focus drops. Not Elijah More. He only gets better when the pressures coming. You wanna you wanna light him up, not a problem. He's gonna

catch it through the contact. So when I finished watching him, and this is a big comp but when I finished watching him, I just said, you know, I just watched Antonio Brown. I mean, from a footwork standpoint, from the ability to get open uh, Antonio Brown is a four or five forty guy. This. Elijah Moore is a four or four forty guy, but you couldn't stick Antonio Brown and his pride. You just weren't gonna check him. He

was too good with his feet. And when I see Elijah Moore, I see the same type of players, So he would be a guy that gets me excited. I think Darius Tony from Florida is another one who the undersized cornerbacks that you know it's you see a lot to really like about him. And then there's another one who who killed players at the UH at the Senior Bowl, and that's Kay Johnson from South Dakota State on take No one could guard him in in the in the

regular season from two thousand uh nineteen. I don't think they played this year, so yeah, well they didn't play this year, so two thousand nineteen, no one could guard him. He gets out the Senior Bowl, nobody could guard him. So I like guys that people can't guard. That's one of the things that I kind of like about wide receivers. When you can't guard them is a favorable thing for me at least what I like the Nakil Harry We'll just throw it up there. He's so big and strong,

he'll make plays. I still like guys that get open. Those guys tend to play for We already brought up most of new on today's show Greg Can't Harry conversation on top of it, I'd say, I'd say k Johnson UH is another one of those smaller UH slot corners that I really like, and he could be there in the war three, even fifth sixth round. I mean, you're gonna get him in day three later and I think you'll be an NFL UH starting slot at some point.

You spend so much time writing all of these draft profiles, and I can't even imagine how many hours you pour into it. So you know these guys through and through and you watch all their tape. Who is a guy that you think will be a surprise Night one selection? M Well, okay, so these are these are predictions based on things I'm hearing, Okay, So I would say Tyson Campbell, a cornerback from Georgia. I think it's gonna end up

in in the first round of the mock. I had him in the first round of my my first mock, and it's funny I go back and look at my mock one point if you go back and look at that these This is before I'm hearing anyone say anything the other media members. And it's probably my most pure mock and a lot of times my very first moodcast has some very interesting things in there where I have I'm just relying on what I'm seeing and it ends up being more accurate at least at certain positions for

certain players. Kind of stuff like that's the stuff you put it right into the system. It's going straight to your head at one point, exactly, don't I don't need this stepped on three point oh four stuff. Tight tight, tight, tight tight. So that's the way you That's the way I do it for my mock draft. And so I had Greg Newsom in there, I had Tyson Campbell, I had Elijah More before the other mock drafts had it,

because it just made sense to me. I mean, I wrote these guys up and these are the kind of players that go in the first round. And so, um, I think Tyson Campbell will find his way in there. Um, you know, Colleen. As far as other players who are going to potentially surprise, there could be others. Um, I'll throw it just a couple of names that might be kind of crazy, but Peyton Turner out of U University

of Houston, UM, Milton Williams out of Louisiana Tech. If Christian Barmore falls out of the first which I think is possible, and it is a bad and as Dan mentioned, is that bad add defensive tackle draft. So at some point somebody's gonna say, look, these are the best defensive tackles. We gotta get this guy before anyone else does, or

that you know, you can close that category down. Um, that could cause somebody to reach up there, especially if Barbore doesn't end up going in the first round, the defensive tackle from from Alabama. One strategy, if you're watching on YouTube, that I employed during these types of things is when you mentioned a player that I've never heard of, I just sort of nod like, oh, yeah, of course, like that guy absolutely. Um, but I have a little bit like Silton from law Tech, Yeah for you, um,

number one. Because it's such a weird draft, and like we're already hearing from like Adam Schefter that teams are, um, you know, obviously a little peaked with the lack of rock solid medical information on players and that stuff even now is still trickling, and so one, do you think that over the next couple of days we might get some explosive medical reports that take guys and just throw

them deep into it, into hyper space. And then part two, what like how hammered to you get the minute the draft ins like you're obviously entering into a wide birth of like you don't need to chime in on anything. So so yeah, so the other day, um, just after total axis, I went and got hammered with tiki drinks at a tiki bar here because it's socially distanced. But I don't need to be that far away from one of the giant skulls with that ten different types of

RUMs in it. So if I just don't you don't share straws like the tiki thing where it's like ten straws in it, well me and my wife, yeah different. Yeah, And if you have a couple that you trust, like we've got our friends from Belize who came down. Shout out to Kelly and McCool from the Phoenix, shout out to them. Um, they're the ones that more most likely to go get a little torn down with. So if I do that just after a basic t a you

can imagine what happens after a draft. Now. Previously, you know, back in the good old days, I was always flying out to California. So I was in l a. And so I might, you know, go do something with our buddy Markistock. I might go do something with uh my friend Eric Laydon who's an actor there, and uh and and but not to the point that I, you know, after the drafts over. I mean, I'm I have to make a flight and get home at some point during that next day usually and so uh so it was

it's a little tough. So no, I I pick out a day and then we'll, uh, we'll just see what happens on that day. When at some point afterwards, when do you start your pro writing your profiles for the next year. Um, it kind of starts in the summer. I usually do a summer kind of Um it depends on So when NFL dot Com would ask me to write my give us ten players to watch at every position, well that was really a head start for me where

I'm already watching. Um. I had a really high grade on Justin Herbert after his sophomore year when I watched him in the summer. Then I didn't like Naji Harris as much this this year when I watched him in the summer and then the verse and I saw this year was like, wow, this is not the same guy I saw last year when I watched him from two thousand nineteen. All right, then I saw in the summer from his two thousand nineteen tapes. So I'll start watching

Colleen in the in the summer. But I'm not writing the profile. I'm just I'm kind of, you know, acclimating myself to their strengths and weaknesses because I love how people reach out to me on my in my direct messages. I left him open, which is probably a mistake since I get so many sweet huddle videos of high schoolers. Now like this is my son. You you just see him to the next big wide receiver and yeah, like this this guy's doing be an incredible wide receiver out

of you know, Maine. And I'm just thinking, I don't need main high school receivers in my ever ever never. I don't even want him from college main college, but um so I will. Yeah, it's it's no offense, but you know, wait until you get to the senior. But it's like, I guess we had to get rid of one or two like a handful of states on that list. The main assassination no Rhode Island. I probably you just have to do it, you know at the senior ball. I just need to see you do it against better

competition rather than your huddle tape from high school. But um so I do have people ask all the time, Hey Lands, I know you're busy with draft, with riding up five hundred profiles. I just wanted to know who you what you thought about this wide receiver from the draft from s m U Like I don't have time I can. If you're not in this year's draft, you don't exist to me. I don't care until the summer

and then you exist again. And it's not personal. But I just don't have the time to be worrying about who's in next year's draft dedication through all this stuff, you know, Lance, can I going back to red flags and medical stuff. There's one prospect that I'm completely obsessed with now and for the only reason that we do that silly mock draft special for NFL Network, and I was tasked with the overall pick, the Jet in person round pick, and um I selected uh with much trepidation.

Landon Dickerson the Alabama Center. I feel like it's down. I love I love land Let me, let me finish, let me up here. So Landon Dickerson he seems to me the guy that has the biggest ratio where he could go in this draft. Right I'm seeing him going to the bottom of the first round a lot of mock drafts, and then you see some red flags because he's had so many injuries that he could be going in the middle rounds Uh, huge boom er bus guy, maybe the biggest in the draft, right, I think that cool.

I think Gregory Rousseau might be. I don't talk to a team who likes him in the first like nobody have talked to me like him in the first. Some teams have third round grades on him. But he's big, he's a long guy, he plays the positions. There's just not a lot of tape, only one year tape on him. So he's one of those guys that could end up in the first or could fall way back into maybe the the middle to late second at the latest. I think the the guys you did hit on something though.

How teams perceive injuries creates the biggest boom bust factor, well not boom bust, but the biggest chasm between high end and low end UM picks. I've I've heard enough from enough people who say Landon Dickerson and I already know about his injury past, just you know, studying this. But I think the medicals are such that he is not going to go in the first round. So I liked him in the first round of two of my

mock drafts. I think he's a good football player. He's the type of guy that you want your locker room um. Everything about him. I love for his attitude and the way he's going to change the culture. But it's just the medicals are just tough to get around. So I don't think he goes in the first I think he falls out. And if you want a guy who's gonna

I don't. So I don't think the high end is in the first I think when you're talking about a guy who could be you know, upper lower, you start talking about injury guys like Caleb Farley, you talk about um potentially Harris Marshall, who's got some some medicals with the foot, and he's got some stuff there, but he's also got potential first round value. So it's always gonna

be the injuries or the character. And as far as the character stuff, the two guys Michael Parsons who has some stuff that happened to Penn State, and then um uh Jalen Phillips, who's who's had injuries and has had some some some questions about character and football um football character specifically the teams I talked to about both those players, just say two talented to fall out of the first du I don't matter whoa whoa who who? Greg mac Jones d right, it's weird to me. Black Prescott how

many d us? How many d us does he have? I thought he had to yeah, because the Internet told you he's got one. And I think that's interesting. I brought that up on my radio show. Yeah, the the it's funny that Twitter started saying he had two d u eys and I had to check with teams. I'm like, hey, I've only got one in two thousand seventeen, and they said, yeah, he's only got one. But on Twitter it's said, I'm sorry, what did you say, Lance? Did you say? On Twitter?

It said, and then they hung up the phone on me. So that's good. Yeah, I didn't want to point that out that it's I saw Cessler had that number right, it's one. I have not talked to anybody who said we had to. But that's one of those things that once it gets put out there into you know, into the internet, it turns into something that we all work off of, and that just is inaccurate. Now, Um, what the hell what were we talking about? Can I ask

you about Mica Parsons? And maybe this is also way off, but did I read that he um effectively as a one person band started a riot? Because I kind of like that, And unless I read that wrong, I thought that's the he started a riot one man ride in high school cafeteria. That's accurate. Um, that would make me want to bring him into my building. He was a wrestler. I get a feeling hands this will know this the one man, one man gang. So so this is he's

kind of like a one man riot in high school. Yes, And honestly, I'm probably gonna use that phrase as a complimentary phrase in scouting next year. Is like a one man riot on the defensive line, because it's actually a perfect that's a hundred percent. And that's one of those things that for me, it'll get stuck and I'll say, oh, this is a good one, a one man riot. He

did start that. That's one of the concerns. Um there's an issue that you can google and find out a hazing incident that that happened in um at Penn State with the teammate, and the teammate I believe was suing him. I don't. I'm not sure where that stands right now. So you do have you have a couple of incidents where the hazing got out of control, wildly out of control. Isaiah Wilson's like, stay away from this guy. Well, I think I can't tell anyone anything. I mean, honestly, after Isaiah, no,

Micael Mica gets out there and is gonna play. He just has edge, and so you have to find out is this a bad guy or is he a guy with edge? I think the teams I talked to you think he's a guy with edge. You always know he's gonna be a little a little extra and everything that he does on the field, and you want to make sure he doesn't do it off the field. But from

what I told, it's all manageable. He's you know, he's just an alpha player who's got an alpha demeanor and it's something that you have to keep an eye on. But um, his love of the game is not really in question by anyone, and that's clearly an issue with Isaiah Wilson. But shout out to you for for recalling the U for bringing back the Isaiah Wilson things to make your point though. Thank you. And and by the way, one Man Gang that was a wrestler in the early eighties.

He then rebranded himself and this is eighties wrestling, as they often do in the ages. Yeah, it is problematic in in a lot of ways. When you go back and look at the flotlines. He's a big, like six ft eight, six ft nine fifty pound white dude, and he rebranded himself a team the African Dream. Oh no, oh no, not real. That's not real? Is that real? So you know, every wrestling character in the eighties would

take whatever was in the news. Then I remember there was immediately as soon as something happened with a plane being shot down and Libya was involved, there was a wrestler named the Libyan Like. You would never see that now. And if you do your and you go through the timeline, I came the African Dream. I came a La Juan. I came the dream a La Juan. Just lazy branding, lazy wrestling branding is what that is. Yeah, you're probably right.

You're right all right now before we say goodbye Land, since we started it with you looking like you're the chuckle hutt in downtown Houston, I'm gonna give you a subject and then you're gonna just give me a riff. Give me what you got. You got five kids. Give me a riff on being a dad to five kids during pandemic life. Uh so I had. They went viral with a fight. Two of them got to a fight during the basketball game on the driveway, and Lamar Jackson got ahold of it, retweeted it, and then it just

went bananas. They ended up on Sports Center and yeah, and then yesterday those same two kids or I'm sorry, on Friday, they were both suspended for their basketball team for leaving the school and walking to the store so they could go buy it like an orange Fanta and some potato chips. They just they just ghosted the school for about a hour and a half, so they were they were both right there, and it seems like you and I have a similar lid over the situation in

our household. So you know, I like that check that you can find that anywhere. I don't know if you want that to be something that is a part of your family history forever. But what it is, Well, the second child with the basketball throwing the basketball, that's where I thought, you know, things got real. They grew up with brothers or cousins. That stuff happens, but there weren't cameras back then for us. Anyway. All right, there you go. Lance,

You've said it all, you've done it all. You're You're not the African dream. To me, you're the American dream. And we'd love to have back anytime. Your role the American dream. We'll get. We'll get your Broadway. We'll get your Broadway rankings next time. Land says, let's do the time Broadway guy. Just there's a lot of hot takes there. We'll get it all right, next time, Lance, Thank you, buddy.

All right, thanks guys, All right, before we go, I do want to point out, because we didn't on this podcast officially, we did on our network show, but that it was a birthday for our host. What is it The New Old blue Eyes for your birthday. I'll say that, I'll say that nickname. That's my birthday present to you. But he celebrated over the weekend and we tried to get a um a cameo from one of his favorite players of all time in time for our TV show. It came a little late, but we should just play

this on the podcast. Ricky, Hey, Danny Wayne Quebec from New York. Yet you've got a message from Ricky Hollywood. I want to reach out to you. Tell me you're a big Jet fan and a fan of mine. I appreciate it, man, you know how to blastem. My eleven years hopefully gave you a lot to tear about, A big reason I am reaching out to her. You're having your birthday, so very happy birthday to you, Dan. I just want to let you know everybody's thinking about your

love you. You know, hopefully have a great day's safe day. Wanted me to tell you that you have the best hair out of anyone and I've ever seen concerned. They want people to call you the new old blue Eyes. I'm not sure what's it means, man, but it sounds like you guys some great friends. Very rising you a little bit. Uh, listen, and it was a tough year of two wins. You know, there's nothing you can do about it now. But they got a great new coach,

great new coach, coaching staff. We got a second to the second pick in the draft. Man, we get a quarterback. I'm not sure wish one, but young guys did well. You know backed in in Uh. You know she had made the Pro Bowl. Quinn should made the Pro Bowl. So there's a lot to be excited about. So look forward to that two thousand. I want hopefully you have a great two thousand twenty one. And I wanted to give a shout out to here get dad heard. He's

the real Jets fame. So enjoy your day. Happy birthday, Dan, and go Jets. Take care man. That was so you know, I do have great friends, and I thank all you guys for that because my birthday went in the really quick. On Friday, we did our network show and and um, you know I was about to have a nice family day,

uh and just enjoy myself, have a few Tito's. And then my eldest son Jack has an accident in school where he gets a cut on his head that requires a visit to the urgent care and stitches, and it's just you know, for any parents, you guys all get it that, you know, you just feel so helpless, especially if it happens when you're not around. Uh So that

that was weighing on me heavily. And I also had gotten my second vaccine shot, which was great the day before my birthday, but then that was hitting me pretty hard. So it was like, not the best birthday. But then when the Wayne Crebett video arrived on Friday night, that that's salvage things a little bit and I thank you for that. Carbett was for people that are younger, don't really know, like he was kind of like an Edelman prototype type dude, like a guy that didn't get a

lot of love. In fact, he's a former Hofstra wide receiver um out in Long Island in New York and the Jets used to train there and Hofstra and part of the agreement that the college had the university had with the Jets was well, you could use our grounds for training camp, but we get to send one of our undrafted guys to camp and he gets a shot. Carbett was that guy, and he became one of the best receivers in franchise history, and if you actually look

at his numbers stacks up with Edelman. He didn't have the postseason resume, But I love Wayne Crebett. The first jersey I ever bought with my own money. So yes, if you're looking for Joe Namath as Market told me, uh, that would have been great and awesome, but Carbett actually is more near and dear to my heart number eighty the Green Lantern as he was. I will mention to you that we are you know, this was gonna We were sourcing this for multiple reasons, but multiple you know,

ideally for your birthday and your pleasure. We did look into Lindsay Lohan. That was our price point. Um, so you got Wayne Crabet, But I think that we did fine. Friends. Shout out to Jason Kleman for thinking of thinking of that. He was so sweet and yeah, Wayne was like he kind of gave off like a Connor or vibe too.

I really it was good. The whole thing was he's also like I just and this comes from being like an East Coast guy at heart and like he grew up in Garfield, win Kurbet, which is exit one fifty seven on the Garden State. I grew up just over the border at exit one seventy two. So like he's like every guy went to high school with basically, and he for him to carve out and I was really nice. So you're gonna get me emotional. It's great, good stuff.

I don't think we'd get into Garden State Parkway talk today, but it. Yeah, you need to make up up for something that you've had two of these birthdays during the pandemic. Here. Um, I actually had something to moan about, but now I feel like in a good, good place emotionally, So I'm gonna save that for tomorrow, Ricky. So let's hold off on something I'm angry about, because who needs that right now in the world. Uh, Connie, Yes, what are you leaving?

When are you're heading over to the Cleveland tomorrow? Tomorrow morning at like five am. I'm out. There's no direct flights from l A to Cleveland. Come on, mark that what I've been to Cleveland like twice in my life. Like I don't I'm not in charge of the airspace I Cleland. I mean, if you're gonna be like punching down at Cincinnati all the time, you gotta puff your chest out about Cleveland. I will do whatever I please.

I do want to. It does make me want to check now since you brought it up, Greg, are there direct flights from l A to Cincinnati? I don't know why that could be. Don't in a big spot for sinc. That's all for what purpose? We'll send Mark out there. Anything else? Anybody else have anything that miss you? Guys? This has been nice hanging it has been nice. I mean Connie, excuse me, Okay, I see how it is, all right, don't take it personally. I'm sorry. And Erica,

why don't you jump in here? How are you doing? Since I brought you up? Nice haircut, Ricky, Thanks, nice jobs. Did a good job with the hair. Good work, well, yeah, took a took a little help. A couple of strands were much longer, and I left like that, so Jet had to take scissors to my head. Did you go to supercuts like? Yeah? I should have. It probably would have been better. God, dang, it's a mask issue. The

same thing happened to me. It's a common problem. Did you not speak with the stylist at a later point? It feels like she got off Scott free here. I feel bad not going back as the biggest punishment you can give her. So yeah, good lesson in consumerism from Greg. There a level headedness really comes through in a big spot. All right, awesome, I love it. We got four more shows coming this week. We got one Tomorrow, Tuesday, Wednesday,

and we're gonna have special guests. We're gonna do our sandwich props for the draft Thursday night of course, and then Saturday night recap, great fun analysis guest Scalore. So we stay tuned this Dan Hanson signing off four Quiet Storm, the Tiny Box, the old Boss, Ricky Hollywood, behind the virtual glass until Tuesday. He's the call s

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