Combine Notes with Lance Zierlein

Or they might be Giants were some bands I mentioned, so a less cool they might be giants. That is a profile that's a tough space to capture. Mark. We were in the rock space speaking of Emo and the pop punk band The Wonder Years and their singer and songwriter, Dan Or. One of their songwriters has been a long time listener of the show and we've been in contact with them for a few years now, and they had a show at the Balasco Downtown. So the dads saddled up and went and saw the show and that was

a pretty cool experience. I just want to thank the guys for that. I'm wearing some Wonder Years merch talked to and Dan does such great job with the merch. I was like, Dan, I think we need help because we need to do some merch on at N. It's

something we've heard over and over again. But the show was incredible and I'm watching it, Mark, and we're watching it from our advantage point, and like, how do we do an ATN live show where the people care as much about that band as they do about a football podcast? Is that's my new goal in my career in life? Yeah, you kept mentioning that, and like my thought watching it was like there's something specific about the fact that this is music, that it's musical, that it's punk, that the

crowd is like grappling with each other and writhing. I don't know if our shows UM lathered the crowd up to that degree. They are a drinking crowd, but I mean we have been UM corresponding with Dan Campbell from The Wonder Years for a while. West used to write back and forth with them all the time, and like, um, you know there were moments where he said come to our show, like it's in the Inland Empire, etc. And like never really got around to it, unfortunately, But last night.

We were up high, you know, high up in the in the in the in the venue and just looking down on him basically commanding this crowd. I was like, wait, I've been writing to this guy for this many years and he is absolutely destroying this crowd. I was shocked. It was amazing, and I just think like a the band, but him, his talent and what he brought like it

was shocking and not. You know, the one thing I'd say merchandise wise is they don't have like a hulking, money hungry mother ship hanging over them like we do, like which sort of has prevented us from doing merchandise. If we can get that mother shift to shift a couple of times zones to the right or left, I think the mothership would be like, okay, we could do an exchange. You could sell the mercy want we will take off into another solar system, or we'll take the

money that you make off it. I mean, that's been you know, but I it was a lesson in many ways. It was great, A great night. Yeah. I mean, what happened to your boy over here last night? I heard about this concert was two months ago on DMS. No one even told me about this Dan. I didn't any connection, honestly, Greg, because like I was on a DM threat and he was like mentioned at January show and I was like, oh, that sounds great when you come back in March. Oh

that's he That's a classic miscommunication there, Greggy. I always thought that the Dan one of yours connection wasn't connected to you. Um. That was a classic miscommunication, sitch. And to be honest with you, I was put I was reminded of it because it just so happens that my barber, Brett Um, who does amazing work at JAG's Barbershop in Westchester area of Los Angeles, has been touring with that a band for years and we met up with Brett my buddy too. That's that's a bad beat, Greg, It

was not perfect. It's cool. Me and Gravedigger are gonna go watch like a French movie this weekend together and that's cool, Greg, Greg, no offense on that front. I do recall that there was a time that you and I were in the newsroom together and that that the Wonder Years wanted to take a tour of NFL Network and I took, you know, thirty to forty minutes of my day to tour them around the various studios in

rooms of NFL Network. And uh, I don't recall your zest and zeal for that, but I think that we could make this, We could make it up to them and them to you by going to the next show that they offer and lost they're playing I think in the next couple of nights in La again. No, they're gonna be down to San Diego, Greg, So there's a make the drive. There's another option. All right, good show, good show coming up today. I mean this has hung a our cloud over the whole operation. Well, we should

mention we're taping in new new locales. I'm in my garage for the first time, so hopefully it sounds okay. You can check it out on YouTube. I guess yeah, check it out on YouTube. I actually see Greg right away. I see a Joe Namath photo behind you. Is that a name of bio or just a standalone photo? You know. I appreciate that this is the first edition, and I just wanted to put it front and center, not only for you, but also for the hut spot. This is

the front of the book. Literally, this is the front of the book. The back of the book is the name, which is I can't wait until tomorrow because I get because I get better looking every day by Joe. But the fact that he had the hut spot to just put his beautiful maga on the front of the book with no writing, that's pretty about now. How about Mark? And you're in a new locate. By the way, the tugboat as always just a figure of immense stability. I'm in the same place, uh, Greg's I was in my

last place for ten years. What are you talking about? Mark? Mark is also once again in a new spot. It looks like you've left whatever penitentiary you're in, which is already minimum security, and now it looks like maybe you're in an old age home. Based on the background on no, I like I have more you know, I found out, you know, forty eight hours ago that we were doing

this remotely. So I had literally put a desk together yesterday for five or six hours and have hung one painting to cast off this idea that I'm in a jail. It's just sort of a white wall. I need to add more decord decoration. It's also a classic like reformed prisoner move to take up like painting while in the can so maybe that's what's happening here, just the theory. Yeah. I mean my father painted this picture behind me, so I can't claim what his journey was on that one

on that front. All right, Very good, very good, and Greg, just so you know, especially after the one to year situation, I do find you to be a figure of immense stability as well when it comes through the show in this enterprise. Thank you. All right. We have as promised, the Combine kicks off in terms of the you know, the bulk of it is, they have the play, the

coaches and gms talking earlier in the week. Now all the prospects are doing their workouts and Landsierline will join us long time draft and combine superstar for the NFL and beyond in a bit. But let's start by getting caught up on the latest in the news. The John's guide of the game to the quarter makes people miss, makes one of those pucks looking like Reggie pucks in the open field, number five two running the London one yard nine be John Robinson show you what he can do?

Who John Robinson, um uber prospect out of Grave Diggers Alma Mater, University of Texas and who com hoom hoom hoom. And you know when we come up with the news drop each show, Graver and I will kind of talk it over. And when I when I threw that out as an option, I could actually see on our instant Messenger climate client the glee coming off the response, which

is like, I think I can do that. When I said, go get a highlight of this highly touted running back prospect coming into the league this year, justin Digger, you know, sometimes we're in the middle of a conversation and all of a sudden, the grave Digger drop hits and it's like, okay, justin what's up that time? A legitimate tea up. He pops onto the screen and then disappears without saying a word. I just wanted to give the YouTube audience like a visual of my glee that you could feel. I didn't

know if the pod audience needed it as much. Yeah, so yeah, hooks for the shout out. Yeah alr right, good Stuffy, continue the shoe. All right, let's heavy into whiskey since eight am. Just for the just to inform you and and just then if can you just pop in a second again. This is for that YouTube audience. You know we're gonna be doing some remote shows throughout the offseason post draft. Maybe we just work on the lighting a little bit and just clean up the visual

for yourself, yanks. Wow. I was excited to debut in my new background too, but I guess it's not good enough. I'll work on I like the road backgrounds indorable. You got a hanging like Neon Titan sign and then what looks like a rotating mini helmet Titans mini helmet that's going at maybe I don't know, like twenty four percent faster speed than I would have expected it to be moving. It's the little motor on that is really cooking. Yep.

Jessica got me this this sign for Christmas. I think she was actually inspired by your old zuser sign behind you. So now we got where the Neon boys. Yea. I love you. Know, you know you've really made it when you put your nickname up in Neon lights behind you. You gotta do that. That's one way to put it. That is a gift from Kevin danger hands as my brother. And at first I was sheepish about it, and I

was like, do I really want to do that? And then I thought about it similar as I was like, I definitely want to do that, and now it hangs behind me forever. All right, let's get into it. Evan Ingram, tight end, disappointing during his Giant's tenure, lands with the Jaguars on a nice, a nice, team friendly contract in twenty twenty two, has a breakout season, and now we're hearing reports from ESPN that the Jags are expected to

franchise the tight end. That tag, by the way, is a touch over eleven million, So that doesn't preclude the team from working out a longer term deal with Ingram, but it does point to the Jags continue to do business with Ingram, which, as we talked about earlier this week, Mark makes a lot of sense because I don't know, can't you just picture Ingram and Trevor Lawrence doing some real damage over the next few years. Yeah, And I

think the thing is they've done a good job. They were aggressive last offseason with trying in free agency to surround Lawrence with what they could Ingram, We've just waited for years for him to for the durability to keep him through a season, and we saw it. He worked out with Trevor Lawrence. The one thing about the Jaguars, Like I know that you know, Trent Balki was just maligned all last offseason and prior were just like this guy that people don't like. It was just a lot

of like negative press around him. But they quietly went and also traded for Calvin Ridley during the season, and I just think that you look at the weapons they have, it's like the Jaguars have done what you want to do with a young quarterback, and so why would you do anything other than keep Evan Ingram around you haven't Calvin Ridley to the mix. I just think it's a very interesting offense with a quarterback that's developing as quickly

as any other quarterback in the league right now. No, all the fans are showing up with clown noses, and I know that was more for our ownership, but that was also partly because he was keeping Trent balky. They had a great offseason last offseason. They said to open this offseason they won't be spending like crazy. It's gonna be about keeping the guys that they have. Obviously, Ridley will be a nice addition. John Taylor is a tackle

who's a free agent for them. I think they might cut Shack Griffin in the coming days to open up some space. They don't have much. The tight end market's pretty interesting at the top, Dalton Sults, who I think might actually get to free agency because I think they might tag Tony Pollard and then Mike Gasecki. Like a couple good tight ends out there. Where did you have Ingram in your top one O one? Greggy twenty seven? I think I had him fifty a year ago, which

proved to be too low, too low. I I like him. I think he's a good player. It's interesting because the Giants are coming off a playoff season. They get to the second round and they need weapons, and we don't even know if Barkley is going to be back. And then you look at like, well, they traded Kadarius Tony, who's a big time playmaker for the Chiefs, and then they let Evan Ingram walk And in both cases there

was logic to it. But I just wonder where they stay and on that now, with a little more time passing, they're probably cool. They probably feel pretty good about their process. I'm just pointing it out. In other news, Uh, Mike McCarthy, You know, Mike McCarthy is a figure of suspicion. Uh for the football GA Sante. Everybody knows it Um, And I think that's part of the reason why zuzzer Um tends to defend Zaddie, because he's had some success in the league. He's won a super I mean, a nickname

for your nickname? What is that even? What is that that? This is what you're trying to peddle because this started, I had not yet. It's it's clearly a move. He had a list of you know, brand building. He wanted to a kind of off season, he said, this week I debut. I know you have a very dim view of me in some ways, Gregg, and you think this is calculated. But in truth, as with all of my nicknames, they come from a natural, organic place. And I don't

even know where Zazzer is coming from. It's coming from old Zeusser right behind you. Well right, that is the that's the root. That's the root. Absolutely, And you could say, holy, the guy with a nickname and neon behind him now has a nickname of a different nickname. I get it all, I get it all, but I'm just saying I'm just angry looking at that that that wonder Year's shirt the whole time. I mean, old Dan was dming me from his tour bus in Europe watching me on Monday night

football over on Channel five Ones. We were back and forth during the show, so we go way back all the way. Okay, but calculations us like like the concert would have been more enjoyable, more vibrant had you been with us. I think we both acknowledge that. But let's not look past Dan's um, you know, heartfelt Mia Colpa too. There was a moment where he spent two or three seconds deciding should I maybe not hang that neon sign?

But then he turned around and said, yes I should, And yet then yeah, then I should take that name and make a nickname off it. So there's a lot happening all at once, Greg, And yes, that's all true, Mark, Greg. Miscommunication, maybe an oversight by Mark and I. We've addressed it, we apologized. But if you're as close as you say you are to Dan, Soupy Campbell and the rest of the Wonder Years gang, perhaps you would have been connected on the show in downtown LA last night. Now you're

just punch it out, you know. Anyway, Let's talk about Mike McCarthy as I said, he is a figure of suspicion for the cool kids. He's a guy that's viewed as a little bit out of touch at times. He's a guy that is viewed as not with the modern game. And he has success in the league and that's cool, But then he has comments like he had at the Combine this week that really do put him out there

on an island to take some heat. It happened over comments about his offense, and the comments were connected to his the play calling of the Cowboys under Kellen Moore, the type of offense that Michae McCarthy wants to run. This is what he said in part, I've been where Kellen has been. You know what, we don't have the sound. But give me some ZADDI. Give me some ZADDI. Give me a zaddi slow jam energy. Underneath this quote, Okay,

that's nice. Oh yeah, okay, now I'm minute. All right, here's what he said, I've been where Kellen has been. Kelen wants to light the scoreboard up, but I want to run the damn ball, so I can rest my defense. I don't desire to be the number one offense in the league. Baby. I ended that I want to be the number one team in the league with a number of wins and a championship, And if we have to give up some production and take care of the ball better to get that, then that's what we'll do. Oh Zaddy,

you're so extra. Now. He's been hammered on social media and beyond for these comments, and I get that he's a big target. The Cowboys are a big target. Does it make any sense what he said in your mind? No? I mean because because he was talking about how he needs he wants to play to the defense and rest the defense, like scoring touchdowns, you're gonna have long drives passing the ball. They were really effective when throwing on early downs last year and ineffective when they would run

on early downs. And I'm just thinking about his time in Green Bay where this was kind of like the last thing he did was takeover play calling and it didn't go well. And he said the last month, you know, being in schematic meetings and starting to prepare the offense is like the most fun that he's had since he's

been in with the Cowboys. So I get it, Like, if he's gonna go down in Dallas, he wants to go down his way, But I think Kellen Moore is more respected around the league than I really anticipated that. A lot of people think he's gonna be amazing in Los Angeles. We'll see, and that it'll be a big loss for Mike McCarthy. I mean, I don't have a huge problem with what McCarthy said, because I think he's

just trying to shift gears to something else. But why do you need to throw Kellen Moore under the bus? Why even bring up Kellen Moore's name. I mean, it was your choice, Mike McCarthy, when you came in to keep Kellen Moore around. That would have been the time to send him out somewhere else. But you embraced him. You you credited him with his skills, and you gave him a chance to call the offense. They were good

under Kellen Moore from much of that stretch. And so now it's on Mike McCarthy because you've thrown every other scapegoat aside. So it's like, I think he understands and we all understand that, Like Mike McCarthy probably has one season. Win totals matter, the playoffs matter, and he has got one season to prove he can do it much better and take them deeper into the playoffs or I think

he's out. I do think I remember having the belief that entering this past season he had to at least get back to the divisional round, and he did and then they were dispatched again. I think next year it's kind of title game or bust um for the Cowboys, and it's getting a becoming a bigger ask to keep McCarthy around. I think that's really what it's going to take.

And I the one my one feeling on it. I agree with you Mark that you don't need to there's a way to say what he said in a less clumsy manner, and I wish we could hear what he actually said. The reason I read it uh for his slow jams are awesome. But also I think it happened in a side scrum with the local media rather than

on the on the riser. That's why we don't have it. Um. Yeah, I think what happened here also is is this a little bit of a commentary on Dak and and Kellen Moore putting so much face in Dak being a superstar talent at quarterback, which he certainly has looked like at times, including in the wild card playoffs this year, but then you saw what he bottomed out in the divisional round through a lot of picks, a lot of turnovers this

past season. I think McCarthy, what you're we're probably gonna see is they're still gonna throw the ball a bunch like all teams do. But I think McCarthy maybe wants to not basically say give the keys to Dak and say lead us. Because Jara thinks you're one of the greats of all time. I think there's some of that buried in this, but I think it gets missed. It goes in a different direction when it seems pointed at the previous OC I'd be interesting good read. I think

that's a good read. And I think their whole, the whole Cowboys last two seasons and Kellen Moore's career would probably look different if they didn't have to happen to face the best defense in the league back to back

seasons in each playoffs. I mean, that's what happens when you get I get it, but I just mean that like the fact that they just got man handled both times by the forty nine ers definitely put them in a bed by it's like you you exited both games, and I don't I don't want to over emphasize, like what happened to Both games ended in total folly. You leave your cowboy fan base thinking about a final fifteen to twenty seconds that looked as disorganized as possible by

a playoff team. All right, let's stop right here, take a break and hit some more news. All right, we're back. In other news, Jets coach Robert Salau spoke about his very it's very unclear what their quarterback room is going to be in twenty twenty three. Right now, you have Zach Wilson on his rookie deal, Mike White has headed toward free agency. The team has been very clear about wanting to add a veteran quarterback, and Salom made some headlines in Indie with this comment on White and his

future with the Jets. Where are you guys on Mike White? Would you like to have him back at the quarterback? Oh? Yeah, no, Mike, Mike. Uh. I know, like I probably should be talking about him more. Mike. Mike deserves every bit be talked about. He should be on this roster also, and he's you know, we carried three last year. But again, he's going through his process and it's just something that obviously we're keeping close tabs on. So if I may, I believe there's some combine coach

speak here. He should be on the roster because they like him, and he's talented in their minds, and and he's somebody that in the most dire straits and outcomes for the Jets. Maybe he did come back and he's their starter because he flashed last year in the year before. But I would say Mike White is probably like would be fifth or sixth on their list of choices for

someone who's going to come back. Zach Wilson most likely not going anywhere, could be traded perhaps, but if they're serious about keeping him and developing him, so he takes up a spot. Obviously, if you bring in a veteran quarterback takes up another spot. Mike White's gonna have value and free agency and he's gonna want to go somewhere he has a chance to play Mike White and the

Jets are over. But the head coach in my mind is, you know, because where we are in the league calendar, they don't know who the quarterback is yet, So right now, Yeah, he makes sense to somebody that could be in the mix, but I don't think he is at all trading Zach Wilson is complicated. I still would like any scenario where that'd be possible and you bring back Mike White as a backup. There is a world where Lamar Jackson, after all this drama, just stays with the Ravens. Aaron Rodgers

stays in Green Bay. Derek Carr decides he loves the Saints and the Jets, who you know, I think it's fair. We understand how aggressive and frankly desperate they are for a veteran quarterback they can trust, but they get left out in the cold, and then you got to deal with like you have been pumping up Zach Wilson although no one buys it, and you're pumping up Mike White, but you might be stuck with, like who do you

gets your quarterback at that point? Robert Salo knows Jimmy g But it's like there is this assumption they're going to get one of these three guys, and it could play out very differently in Leaves. I mean, I think the way it's set up, they're gonna get car I've heard and you never know. You hear a lot of different things. But I have heard some rumnies. You know, cars market might not be as great as he hoped.

I we'll see. But I just think the Jets are the team that are going to make that thing happen. If if they can't do better, they'll get good. Yeah, I would say in this order for me, but Rogers, Lamar car Jimmy g will be the Jets starting quarterback.

But for whatever reason, to Mark's point, if all that fell through, I think they would start kicking the tires and things we haven't connected to connected to them, like a Tannehill or Stafford or even Gino for Christ's sake, Like before they said okay, let's just run it back with Mike White. I would some clarity would be nice at that position. How about the Carson Wentz Did we ever do the Carson Wentz released? By the way, the poor guy didn't even crack the top one. I won.

Oh we forgot that. I forgot. Carson Wentz was released by the Commanders right after our show last week. And no, I don't think that would be an option for the Nets.

But I don't either. His career is over. I think Greg Greg Greg around, like really go ahead and starts to take commands Greg around week twelve or thirteen, if you want to have him to take command, Like, um, I thought you came up with a great idea where like use Carson Wentz as like a short yardage hammer, like a like a Taysom Hill type guy that can come in like he's not your he's your backup, but he's used in certain ways where you take advantage of

the fact that he's like built like a front door. I kind of like that, like this is a guy that like has talent. I just don't want him leading the team. Just just be ready, guys, especially you mark for Carson Wentz week one starter of the Arizona Cardinals. Why would you do that? Carson Wentz has made too much money to do Taysom Hills or all at this point, I think he'd be like, see you later over that,

um all right. In other news the Chargers, it's been spoken of that um Keenan Allen's time with the team could be over. The veteran wide receiver has a tradable contractum and yet Tom Talesco, the GM of the Chargers, try to throw some cold water on that at the Combine. Here's what he had to say. Kenian Allen to me, he like, he's our Andre Reid. Yeah, he's our Charlie Joiner Like, yeah, he's he's an incredible football player, tack. We need weapons around him, you know, there's never been

any thought of that. So he's he's he's with us. And uh, you know, between him and Mike Williams and Josh Palmer, we think that's a great three receivers for our quarterback. Got also Necklert running back. You know, we've got an offensive line that can protect. So you know, those are key weapons we need for our quarterbacks. Makes a lot of sense to me, boys, how about you same? And Uh, it's rare we actually get hard news in the combine. And I think this is why I was

worth pointing out like that. You can put that to bed now. I think he wouldn't have said that unless he knew that's absolutely the plan. He was on the set there, I believe with our friend andrews Siciliana Little NFL network news breaking. Okay, it's not Andrew Siciliano Graver's shaking his head, Just tell me who it was. Then that was on Good Morning Football, which is a great program itself. That was Peter Schreger who was speaking with

they're using the same set. Good job, Pete, A great journalist, Peter Schreeger. I wouldn't know what you know on the show, Peter Schreeger. Um. I love Peter Schreeger. He's connected as

hell and he'll let you know about it. There was a great shot um at the famous steakhouse uh Saint Elmo in Indianapolis of Schreeger eating the shrimp cocktail with Andy Reid, legendary coach and reigning Super Bowl champions, sitting in the booth next to him, and then I believe um, Peter put in the caption with the tweet, Oh, by the way, it's Brett Veach the GM taking the photo spots we got to work on. I mean, yeah, that's true. But also is it an awkward moment when it's like

Pete's like, hey, can can you take the picture? Like I want to get all big old big Red over and big Red in the shot, putting Beach in a bad spot, take a big dirt nap because Beach takedown since he was on year the GM around in two thousand and nineteen. Yeah, but think from the Schrager brand end of things, that's huge. Yeah, I have the GM. They got the architect of this championship team. As I eat steak, do a little like photo icon, Brett Beach.

I think that's that's the next level move. Um. This is the first time I haven't had a Indianapolis steak in February or March in a decade. And I know everybody's like, oh, Sanmo, it's not that good. I like it. I used to say to Connor when we would all get together and people would complain about going there all the time, I would say, it's not about the meat. It's the meat. Eat eet No. I think we're circling back to that conversation before the mark. Yeah, interpersonal connection

I think is very important. I think we I think we knew where you were, where you were coming from with that, and just sort of in awe of your wordplay. Thank you very much. And and we missed a lot of traditions in Indianapolis this week, but we at least got to hear that phrase from Dad. I think there was like like a tiny bit of mild grumbling one time, and then it like all we've heard about it's like everyone knows is talking about the eight. Almost. Well, here's

what it's really about. It's about America. It's about America. It's rooted in patriotism. Uh no, it's it's it's a thing, and I miss it. I wish, I wish we were having steak with Connor roor So we're not all right. In other news of the Ravens haven't had a lot of success building out their wide receiver room during the Lamar Jackson era, and Eric Decasa spoke about that at

the combine this week with the media. He had some candid thoughts on that, and after those comments were aggregated, Rashad Bateman, the twenty twenty one first round pick at the position, offered up a tweet that he then deleted, but it lives forever on the internet, and he said this at his GM. How about you play to your player's strength and stop pointing the finger at us and number eight that's referencing, of course, Lamar Jackson. Blame the one you let do this. We take heat twenty four

to seven and keep us healthy. Care about us and see what happened. Ain't no promises though. Tired of y'all lying and capping on players for no reason. After deleting the tweet, he sent out a new message, my apologies. It's like, oh, maybe I shouldn't bury my boss publicly on social media. Maybe maybe on my apologies will take care of this. He's probably he's not wrong, though he's

not wrong, h if. And that really does greg give you an idea of some of the legit rumblings inside that building for an organization that's usually pretty airtight, right, and Bateman has been one of their better picks. He just hasn't been healthy, or wasn't last year. But he looked like he was developing into a nice number two receiver at the least, which will live up to his late first round draft stock. But the training stuff was messy, and so I went and checked out the NFLPA report card.

You guys, see this thing that came in did Yeah, that was bonkers. That thing pretty stunning. It was interesting. We could get into that you guys if you wanted. But I did check the Ravens training staff, the strength staff rather, which was the one part of the report card that almost everyone got a's and a pluses, like everyone loves their strength. Yeah, except for two teams. The Falcons had a D minus and the Ravens had an

F minus. So there's something going on where like they are not happy with what's going on behind the scenes in terms of the strength staff, and that's a little different than the training staff. But the training staff got a C and the I believe the weight room got a see. So it was like a little you know, the Ravens players aren't happy and that it was. It was interesting because everyone always talks about how the Ravens

are this great organization. That was a real aberration because if you looked at that report card, a lot of the weight rooms got graded poorly UM to the point where if you dug down to some of the commentary, there were players complaining, like the Arizona Cardinals um got I think the worst grade of anyone across the board. It seems like an absolute UM disaster over there. They were they were technically thirty first, but I don't know how that happened because they had four F minuses, right,

I mean F minus doesn't even exist. How did you How did the Commanders finished behind the team that had four F minuses? The minus is the gentleman's e right, but the one thing that I think what a lot of the players were probably trying to do was say that in inclement environments, in the in a weight room that is not up to par, the training staff. These are the guys that motivate you and tell you we

believe in you. And like the training staffs, almost across the board got B plus to A plus, except you're right, the Ravens did not. And the one thing, the one position group that seems to have been um problematic for them for so long drafting wise, was wide receivers. But go back to Hollywood brown being frustrated with that offense, for shod Bateman, frustrated with the way that he's been handled in his health because I thought he looked like he was about to set on fire early last season,

and that offense. Now they've fired their offensive coordinator. It's like the Ravens that have been this like pristine organization. There were little cracks here left and right, And as an old school Browns fan, you don't hate to see it. Well, no, it's just like, you know what, you can't just coast, you gotta keep You can't have that weight room sitting out there with your training staff getting FS and d's

this Ravens stuff this offseason. But you remember I was gonna I was gonna build sell the Ravens to build West the old Mouser that would an underground railroad that would go across the country. You sell the Ravens franchise for that, it'd be a better, better deal. Tough time for Cards fans out there for F minuses and looking at their roster, it just feels like they are I don't know if you've done a power rankings lately, but they might be my thirty two. I think they're my

number thirties. It's gonna be a tough year in Arizona. And you know you're bad when the commanders are like looking down at you'd be like, hey, we just got one F and two F minuses, so that's cool. Finally in the news, Carolina Panthers founder Jerry Richardson died on Wednesday night at his home in Charlotte. He was eighty six years old. His celebrated figure when he brought the NFL to Carolina in nineteen ninety five, but his time with the team ended in twenty seventeen due to scandal.

He was forced to sell the team to David Tepper for a then NFL record two point two seven five billion after the twenty seventeen season, amid allegations of sexual and racial misconduct in the workplace. A statue of Richardson outside the building was subsequently removed, and Richardson is now oh no longer with us. So Jerry Richardson dies at the age of eighty six, one of the only X players ever. I could be wrong, but I think he was the first X player to ever become a team

owner to make that path. Before we take a break and bring in Lance Greggy, do you want to get us caught up and we talk a little bit about veterans potential cuts ahead of free agency? Here, what are some names that are jumping out to you? Is you, I know, you're licking your lips in a really kind of uncomfortable way because you want to add these guys to your top one oh one, not about their personal failures but or unemployment impending unemployment. But you just love

to beef up that list. So that's kind of what it's about for you. Okay, that's not totally true. I'm just trying to provide information for the listeners here of what we might see another in a week or two. I don't know if we still have the music. We used to have a segment Dan sponsored everything every week by Acrasher. What does that company do again? Accreshure, it's a it's an adult toy that we discuss earlier this week. All right, loving that sponsor. All right, some some possible

cuts to look for in the coming week. It sounds like Joe Mixon has gone based on what Duke Tobin said, it just makes a lot of sense. Michael Thomas, I believe is certain to be cut. Frank Clark's a big name that I think probably gets cut. Lyle Collins with the Cincinnati Bengals, Byron Jones, Miami, Shack Griffin and Jacksonville. They need space sneaky close to the cap. Bud Dupree and Tennessee. Donovan Smith, longtime left tackle for the Titans.

Ezekiel Elliott. I think he gets cut. Let's just end this first. Eric Kendrick possibly for the Vikings, Harrison Smith, possibly for the Vikings. Adam Thieland might take a pay cut, but otherwise he might get cut. Shack Harrison, Matt Ryan, Ryan, Kelly, john Us Smith. I think your boy Corey Davis might get cut Carl, depending on what they're trying to do. Otherwise, I think Lawson's gone. They got a first round pick ready to take a spot. Okay, Holly tie, I didn't

need to go first. That's fine, Romeo Acquio and I could keep going down the list of offensive linemen. But those are the biggest names I see as likely cuts in the coming room. A lot of nice potentially nice value. A lot of those guys will maybe sign shorter term deals to try to get their value back up, and those becomes some steals, so interesting, good stuff. All right, take a break and we'll get lands In. Yes, he's the man who brings raw sensuality to Indianapolis after February

and march Zaddy in his own right. Landsier line, welcome back to around the NFL. Well, I mean I don't have an auto tune, trust me, it would be all in lands the combine. The workouts began today and you are there, boots on the ground. I mean, we're gonna get to quarterbacks and some other prospects that are interesting to us. Is there kind of above the tree tops? Like what is everybody talking about right now? When when you're at Prime forty seven, you're at Elmo or whatever.

What is kind of like the people of your ilk. What are you guys like? What's getting you guys juiced about this class? Well, I don't think you want to know exactly what we're talking about, because it's I heard you guys talking. But actually I heard the conversation before I went on the air, and so actually it would fit in with this this show just probably off the microphone. But um, I would say, you know a lot of it is it revolves around Jay Link Carter obviously, that's

that's gonna garner a lot of attention. A lot of conversation about the quarterbacks right now, which is, you know, are certain guys being too hyped up right now? The hyped up enough? And that's really been a lot of the conversation has been about, you know, what's going to happen at the top of the draft and is Ryan Poles is everything coming out of Chicago smoke right now? Or is any of it real? That's those are conversations right now. A lot of talk out of oh and

some Lamar Jackson stuff. You know what's going to happen with Lamar? And what are the Ravens going to ultimately do. There's a lot of people who believe he's getting traded. Just a lot of people say they're just they'll just take their lumps this year, figure out quarterback and move forward with a boatload of picks. Well, you think, Anthony Richardson, it is getting overhyped, that who you're talking talking about when you say the quarterbacks and getting overhyped. You know.

So we so we live in the social media world, so that's not always the real world, as you know, you guys know, but it's hard not to think back to the Malik Willis, all the hype from last year and then he gets drafted in the third round and it's like, whoa, what happened here? And it's all to the point now where social media has taken, you know, for Anthony Richardson, they've taken We've all seen the same

two plays. There's three plays. There's a pass play where he's dodging left and right in the pocket and throws kind of a three quarter side arm throw against Tennessee that's really cool. A run against LSU that's a long run for touchdown. And then there's a rollout against I think Vanderbilt maybe where he rolls right and throws a dime into the end zone. And those are the three plays that everyone shows over and over, and it's just like, I don't think it's a fair representation. I don't think.

I don't think social media, the guys who compile the highlight plays and get all the likes and the retweets and all the dopamine hits because there because people are giving them all the attention for creating these highlight videos of players, I don't think they do a very good job of showing what the players actual strengths and weaknesses

are and the areas of concern. And so the freight train of hype starts rolling downhill in the you know, not just on not just in social media, but I think it leads its way into the television world because that's what people are talking about, and then it doesn't necessarily match up with what NFL people are thinking about players. So I think, you know, I think all of these guys have a lot of work to do. I think Levis and Richardson have a lot of work to do,

but they're also wildly talented. But I feel like the freight train needs to slow down just a little bit for Richardson, because I don't think it's really fair to him at this point. You know, it's Um, I love what you just said, because you're in a group of people that you know, you and Daniel Jeremiah, and in a house for us, you're watching full games versus these ten minute, twelve minute cutups that really just show typically the top of the top of the echelon of their performance.

But when you look at someone like, um, you know, Richardson, he's gone. Some people have in the first round. He goes down to the fourth rounds in some mocks. But like Bryce Young, I think is an interesting study because the last quarterback who was you know, essentially listed under two hundred pounds to go in the first round with Jim McMahon. I mean that is we're talking AONs ago. So where is the real concern level? Because I think now you've got coaches that say, we can look at

quarterbacks differently, we can coach this up. But there's so much to like about Bryce Young. But does it's not just the height, but does the weight and the body size really like does he like the teams eliminate him because of that? I think the height is I don't want to say it's irrelevant, but the height is not a big concern because you can roll out pockets. You're sitting in a shotgun, you know so often. I mean, I think there's different things you can do from a

height standpoint that doesn't bother me as much. The frame thing you can't get around. I mean, he may come in here and wait two hundred pounds and that could be a I told you so to everyone. It's not gonna matter. Everyone knows he's slightly built, and so there is a consideration. It can concern because it's fine if you can coach a player up for the different areas

of concerns he has. But can he take some of the hits that other quarterbacks take when a guy falls on him even though he's well protected, and he stands in and delivers the ball late because he wants to make sure and you know, to get this throw off. They don't want to give it up too early? Can can he withstand that punishment? And then the other thing is going to be is he going to be able to recover from injury as quickly as everyone else? Or is an injury to a shoulder or a chest or

a leg a hip. Is that going to be something that knocks him out of the game and keeps him out for another couple of games? So I think that's the big concern is is how many games is he going to miss? Now? He hasn't missed a lot of games at Alabama, he's you know, he's been relatively healthy. But the NFL game is faster, there's less ability to protect him. Alabama's got better prospects than you have, probably

on their on line and your d line. Their on line is probably going to have more prospects as opposed to you know, the exception of the Georgia game. But in the NFL, if he gets drafted by the Texans, if he gets drafted by uh, you know, the Raiders or the Panthers or anybody who could come up and trade up and draft him, can they protect him well enough and can he protect himself? I think those are real concerns. But make no mistake about it. On tape,

he's clearly the best quarterback in this draft. And then you know, on the subject of qbs, it was ninety four picks last year before the fourth QB came off the board. In your first mock and I know these things are highly fluid and they're kind of a fun exercise more than something to like study scientifically. But you have four guys in the first nineteen picks, starting with Young to your Texans at two, and then the Bucks grabbing Richardson as their post Brady guy Will Levis you

have right now mocked to the Raiders at seven. Makes a lot of sense that Josh McDaniels looking to develop another QB, did a nice work with Mac Jones as a rookie, and they're obviously moving on from Derek Carr, so that match makes sense. But I'm curious more about as a prospect, like what he needs to show right now and how much did you put in Obviously had a tough season in twenty twenty two, his final college

season with the injuries. Does that leave you more concerned or do you give him kind of a pas as on that and look more at what happened when he was healthy in twenty one. Yeah? I looked more at twenty twenty one, and I still see some of the same concerns. I mean, I actually gave him a plus for twenty twenty two for playing through injury, playing hurt showing his ability to be tough through it all. But there's just some fundamental accuracy stuff that really bothered me.

I just and some decision making and taking too many sacks. There's some poised considerations in the pocket, I mean the arm talents there. I think he's a talented quarterback. But twenty two is a very rough take. Twenty one is better, but there are still some issues that I think you

need to work around. Now I can tell you that there's a chance I could come up on my grade based on how he looks here at the combine and a protey And I know it's on air, and I know there's no defenders, but I think just you know, I want to see him throw accurately from point A to point B. I don't want to see him spray it all over the place. And so those are some

things on air. If he's if he's struggling to put it on frame for these wide receivers here at the com um, that's that's, you know, kind of a it's not confirmation bias, it's tape by it's tape confirmation that he has natural accuracy issues. But I do think Will Levis is a guy that teams want to like, they want to buy into Will Levis because he does have some of the physical traits that you really really like.

And I can understand why teams get excited and and you know, maybe there is enough on twenty twenty one for people to project. But everybody, whether you like Richardson or Levis or both, the big thing you you want to try to lean on is Josh Allen. Josh Allen, I think you're chasing a unicorn. That's like saying, you know, you know, oh, this guy can be the next you know, maybe like Nolan Ryant, he can continue to pitch when he's really older. Maybe he'll be like Lebron, or maybe

he'll be like Tom Brady. These are these are false comparisons. You can't make comparisons to these, to these unicorns. It's just it's hard to do it. I think Josh Allen, it's it's yet to be determined, but Josh Allen may be one of those rare instances where accurately curacy issues were improved to a not only functional level, but a very solid level. Who are you mentioned Levis? He kind of want to see how he looks in terms of his accuracy I'm sure Richardson will blow the doors off

in terms of like his testing, We'll see how he throws. Like, who are some other offensive, maybe skill guys you're looking at this week that could show some juice, you know, a little preview for who's walking in the NFL network stuff this week. And in terms of receivers, maybe running backs, well, Tyler Scott, wide receiver out of Cincinnati. He's a former running back and he's got he's very tough with the ball in his hands. But he was also a track guy,

so he's got great sprint speed. He is really really fast, so he's going to run really really fast. But the other thing is and I think he does need to get a little bit better from just learning to play. But I think Tyler Scott was one of my favorite ascending prospects when I watched him. I think he's a second round wide receiver. I think he's gonna run really fast and test really well, and I think he's gonna look good in the drills as well. So that's a

guy to keep your eye on. A wide receiver like Zay Flowers who's gotten bigger over the like during the quote unquote draft season, he's gained. He's put on like eight to ten pounds of muscle, and he looks bigger like he looks good. Zay Flowers is gonna run really really well. Tank Dell Nathaniel, Tank Dell. It is rare to be named tank when you're one hundred and sixty three pounds and you are. He's a wide receiver named Tank who's one hundred and sixty three and he's gonna

run in the four threes. So those are some guys that are going to bring some juice, I think, to the table. But it's unusual because we have a lot of smaller wide receivers. There's gonna be a lot of big cornerbacks and smaller receivers this year that you're gonna notice at the combine and then you know. So those are some of the guys that are going to run really fast. But a guy that I think you're gonna start hearing a lot more talk about is Cedric Tillman

from Tennessee. Kind of a lost you know. Jalen Hyde is I don't know if he's running out here, but if he does, it's going to be extraordinarily fast. But he had a lot of touchdowns. He was terrific this year. I think people sleep on the fact that Cedric Tillman played this year on a high ankle spring. He ended up having a surgery so he could get it back out on the field faster to join, you know, his teammates and compete, which I think is a big bonus

in terms of what he's willing to do. He's big, he has great ball skills, and he had three hundred and fifty two yards receiving last year. In twenty twenty one, I should say against Georgia and Alabama. I mean three to fifty total against Georgia and Alabama. That should immediately

catch your attention. And I talked to a couple of personnel guys in the NFL just kind of brought up his name, and they were like, we're right there with you, Like you know, he had he had the tape last year, and so you have to go back also to twenty twenty one to just re remind yourself that Cedric Tillman is a real dude out there, and he's a guy that he may not run the fastest forty, but if he gets under four or five, he gets in the

high four fours. I think his name is really going to start to creep up and maybe even start to be mentioned in the late first round because there's no real wide receiver ones For me, it's not quite in Johnston. It's not Jordan Addison, it's not Jai Jayala High. It's gonna be my top rated wide receiver, but leat speed. But I don't believe there's a true wide receiver one draft. I want to I appreciate that we've got some small

wide receivers in this draft. If I want to talk about a human being who is um the opposite, he is very large. He is about two hundred and seventy five pounds. He's six foot four from the state of Iowa. Hovering from that land um, it is Lucas van Ness, my draft man crush at this point. I know he wasn't really a starter per se in college, but it seems like he is a figure of massive intrigue. He doesn't even fit into most cars. How do you view

this player? So he's his nickname is Hercules for a reason. That's what he looks like. That's how he's gonna test. I think right now, he's he's a He's a good athlete with great size, but he's not as skilled as he needs to be. The hands need to get better. He's not a very skilled pass rusher, which I think can come in time. It's something you can coach up, but it's not always going to click. So sometimes with

some players the coaching hits. And then you take the big, strong, powerful, explosive player and if he gets his hands worked out, if he starts to develop go two moves, well you're looking at one of the more potentially one of the more dominant players to come out of the dis draft from a pass rush standpoint. If he doesn't develop, and if he still continues to lean on power and strength, well the NFL can you know, they have guys who can counter you on power and strength. So you'll be

You'll be good, but you may not be great. So I think Lucas fan as the key is going to be Can he add skill to what is already a force driven playing style. If he can add the skill level and add a little finesse and pretty up the game a little bit and get the skill level you know, elevated a little bit, I think a law starts to click for him. Lets you have no idea how important it is for Mark, that guy hits now that he's publicly brought him up, there's a lot riding on this

for Sessler, that's true. Yeah, let me ask, well a little good out here. I mean, Cessler's gonna he's gonna come out of this looking like the champion out of the combine. Let's just see how it looks on draft day and then you may have to revisit this in three years or when it's signed for a second contract. That's a long time for you to answers. That's a long time for you and Greg to wait to glow like. That's a long time for a second contract to say

you were wrong. You know, I don't think you're gonna be able to say that. We've been doing this soho for ten years. We still make fun of like when he really was in love with Zach Zenner or who was the other guy, Toby Gerhardt on the Vikings. Yeah, Gar, we remember if you were two thousand, were a white running back that wasn't Christian McCaffrey. Mark likes you. I mean, the one thing he can't do. So we're gonna start our Riley Moss discussion in and go white cornerback? Is

that ever? Gonna make the rounds on h I feel free to speak on him, go ahead. I mean he's he's a legit running back. I mean he's a legit cornerback. He's going to be drafted as a corner. There will be talking about moving him to safety. You know, he'll get the hey, we should move him to safety talk the cursory we should move him to safety. Talk. But he's a legitimate cornerback and he's going to be drafting on Day three. He's physical, he's got some cover skills.

I think Riley Moss is a legitimate cover corner. He may not be anything more than a backup in the league. Who who gets to play here and there's a third cornerback or if there's injuries, But I think Riley Moss is It's it's it's been a long time. It's been a long run. You had Jason c. Horn and now Riley Moss. Now. I don't know if he's going to end up you know, supermodels or TV cars or whatever the case may be. But I do think he's got

a chance to play in the league. Also, that's a great um pop culture slash sports trivia question that I'll pose to Greg Rosenthal. Jason Sehorn's wife is or was. Angie Harman corrects, well done, Greggy. Let's close here and thank you for your time here Lance from the bowels of Lucas Oil Stadium, which you probably know as well as your own home at this point in your life and career. H Yeah, Bijean Robinson, we played his highlight

earlier in the show. Our producer, Gravedigger is a Longhorn alum, as he ceaselessly tells us, who's the comp here? How special is this guy? You have him as a top five prospect. That doesn't mean he goes top five because of how the running back is viewed in our league, as we know, but like, who's the comp in terms of what kind of player? This guy? Could be kind of hard to come up with an exact comp. But

I think say Quan is a fair comp. I mean, he's he's not going to be as fast as say Quon Barkley, but what he is is he is a very powerful running back. He runs. He runs with a combination of elusiveness and power, and you don't know which one you're again, So what happens is a lot of times you'll see tacklers get up to him, and if they're not sure, if they're on their toes waiting for him to wiggle and then he hits them head on, they're gonna get trucked and it's not gonna look good.

If they're bracing to really run through him and he wiggles, then they're going to look bad. So he can toggle between elusive and power, which I love. The other thing is is he's a full menu running back, so he can handle first and second day, you know, from a fantasy football standpoint, which we all dabbled, obviously, he's going to be a guy that fantasy owners are gonna love because he didn't have a tremendous amount of wear and tear off the treaded Texas. They did a pretty good

job of limiting, you know, the heavy duty touches. But he can gain yard from himself through wiggle, he can gain yarch to himself through power. He can catch the ball out of the backfield at a volume rate, and he can protect the quarterback so and not to mention it. When he gets around the goal line, he can put it in there. So there's really not a lot of weaknesses there. I don't know that he's necessarily going to run. He may be like a four or five forty guy.

Maybe four five five may not be the fastest forty guy. But I really, honestly that really doesn't bother me as long as he has enough first. That's uh, yeah, that's Jeremiah brought up a good point that these type of guys, these running backs, they make sense going to a team that's ready to win. I believe you had him mock to the Bills, which would be a home run. Um will be interesting to see where he lands rebuilding team

or contender. Hey, last question, I'm curious Lance, Like, so we our combined experience has always been, or at least in recent years. You know, we parachute in for the coaches and gms and then we get out of dodge, right, you are there for the whole thing, Like so, like when you're there? Like when did you get into town Lands, into Indie and into town Tuesday late afternoon and you're leaving Win Sunday night? All right, so what are you doing?

What are you doing in Indie now from Thursday through Sunday? You've already hit probably all the punts. Or are you such a veteran that you know places that people don't even they're not even aware of, or is it getting to the point now where you're at the White Castle at the outskirts of town by the time you get

to the Friday night. Now I'm a I'm a legitimate food guy, So I hit restaurants that are critically acclaimed, so I'll make patients find going to I saw Matt Rule, who you know what was it twenty twenty It's either twenty nineteen combine. His wife was trained at a culinary school just for you know, just because she wanted to.

And so I saw Matt Rule at this really nice James Beard nominated restaurant that was about twenty five minutes outside of Indianapolis, and we talked food there in some football. I made it to a place called Beholder that I don't think anyway. So here's the key. Look, I know they're probably not advertisers. I've never seen him advertise anywhere. Resie is the key. The app Resie is going to have any city you go into, some of the coolest, hippest food forward places is always going to be on RESI.

So you look through there and then I do my homework after that. So, like I scout cornerbacks, and I scout wide receivers and offensive. I scout restaurants as well. I look through the menu. Is it tasting me? What is a cocktail? Men? You look like? Is it? You know? Am I going to have to make? Is there a chef's table or a chef's counter? What does it look like from its hire standpoint? Because I can tell you

it's going to be casual for me. Yeah, I noticed you on NFL network just wearing a plaid shirt, no jacket, no tie. And this was a Tier one show. You're supposed to be wearing a tie. I was like, they're gonna yank Lance right off of it. Then here's a good idea. Tell me before I pack my clothes and get on a plane that you're gonna have me on Yeah, okay, I see that's a good cover. Oh it's also a power play. It's also a power play by Lance. It's like, you know I'm good at this. You know the value

I bring. If you want to give me an issue because I'm not wearing a tie, well guess what I'm just I'm killing the game. Decide what's more important. It's a cho lnge is what it is. That's what I think. I think there's a brand that is created for draft analysts and especially guys who write tape. Is we're supposed to be grinders. You don't put a grinder in a tie. Frankly, I should get a hoodie my show. I should dress exactly like you guys dress at all times on every show. Well, Lance, Um,

keep up the good work, buddy. Be you love it? I shirt and I'm like, what, how's that supposed to mean? Greg? No, I like, I legitimately liked it. You were. It was a cool shirt, and you were. I was just surprising to see next to Aciliano's like three piece suit. It was great. It was a cool shirt. Um, all right, Lance, thank you very much for joining us, buddy, and enjoy all the good eats and the good times and indie and we'll talk to you again soon, see Lance. There

he goes Lance. He's a good fella. As they say, um, boys, here's the plan. That's the last show of the week. Maybe, um but um. During a of contemplation with my canine last night, it did strike me. Let's be ready, let's be on call. Uh, this Lamar Jackson situation. As you're hurt again from Lance. Something can break at any moment. There could be a trade Aaron Rodgers that could go down.

I floated the idea of a Derek car emergency podcast, and just for the thought of Mark having to do that on call and do a thirty minutes on Derek Carr that potentially is in play here just for entertainment value. So maybe you'll hear from us tomorrow Friday if big news breaks. Otherwise we have shows all through next week.

I think typically in our society, the people that are on call are you know, emergency workers, highly regarded surgeons and bloggers, and so we we just will fit right in there and do it's it's our job, it's our task, it's our it's a joy to do it all. Greg. I'm now living in this garage. I'm not going to leave. But we do have some breaking news before we leave, though I don't know we got an emergency pod. The NFL has announced that referee Jerome Boger has retired after

nineteen Are you going that is okay? Breaking news? Drop? Okay, We're in a little bit of a slump there, but Boger is one of the more recognizable dudes, you know, so Bogie leaving the game while he still has his fastball. I don't know if he does or not. In fact, who knows why he's leaving. I know the NFL is probably behind the scenes looking to tighten some things up in that realm, but I don't want to connect any dots on that. If Bogie just decided this is the

end of the it was run. Got speed, buddy, and enjoy whatever comes next. I was just hoping, actually, you were going to come after me for a reckless use of breaking news and didn't even work. No, because I don't want to. I don't want to shatter your confidence on it unless you're now purposely trying to denigrate the breaking news drop, which is okay. If you want to

go with a bid on it, that's fine too. But now he's been doing that for like, I think it's three or four years he's been doing You should have seen what happened last week, Mark, when you were trapped at sea. He used the breaking news drop to announce that he was not going to put Conklin, not Conklin, who was it, Taylor Luan on his top one on one. Well, that lacks integrity, Greg, you need to clean that up.

I choose not to. I was just tempted to do breaking news again, to say, now I know, uh, let's do it justin, let's go, let's go whenever. You could build up the joke in this manner, and it's gonna land. My wife and Pat Rules Bat Rules wife have something in common. They both went to culinary school. That's it. And I did. I did see your eyes light up when Lance mentioned that it sucks at Rules now back

in the college game. Good for him. He's getting paid a bunch of money and he'll thrive because he killed it with Baylor before and Rutgers before he got to the NFL. But he would have been a good guy to keep in our rotation. But he's gone. He's gone. He's gonna be running that program for years and probably never come back to the NFL. He describes her wanting to go to Culinaris culinary School just because she wanted to, like he sort of well maybe it's a deep passion.

We don't know. We just sort of just just sort of flippingly decided to go and check that. I think. Yeah, the idea was she didn't need to be making you know, eighteen dollars an hour to work till one in the morning because he has her taken care of financially. Maybe that was what he was getting after I'm not sure. Hard to say, hard to say. We may never know. It was Temple, by the way, not Rutgers from that rule,

Thank you, Grave digger. All right, that's it. So, like I said, and less news breaks and dictates an emergency pot Come on, Derek Carr, make that decision. We will be back on Monday with more around the NFL goodness as we get closer and ever closer to free agency and yes, the draft good stuff. Thanks to everybody listening until uh you hear from us next. Yes, hey, baby, you gotta heat that call. In that call. It's coming to my place to see my face heat the cally. Okay,