My Homes throws juggling to catch for a touchdown. Mccaule, Hartman had it, lost it, had it broke a tackle and took it in and the rookie has his third touchdown of the season on a twenty one yard touchdown pass from Patrick Mahomes. Fourth down one now Mahomes and that makes him nine for ten in that category. On third and fourth and one, picking up the first down and it sets up first in goal and well, that's
what that's what I was talking about. He's at the bottom of that pile and there's just a lot of bodies, a lot of people falling on top of you. And you know, I can tell you a lot happens at the bottom of that you know, a lot of pain. And it's like they almost popped that right knee back and play second down of nine here for the Broncos, down by seven. Pull his out there for the Chiefs and Raglan takes it in for the touchdown. Knocked out
by Hitchens and without Patrick Mahomes. The Chiefs defenses let us take it into the end zone. More steps up, floats and hill behind the defense. He is gone for the touchdown. No flers, we got another map more moment. Was not expecting that this Thursday night, the Kansas City Chiefs win thirty to six in Denver. On a bummer of a night, frankly, because we only got to watch about twenty minutes of Patrick Mahomes before he left with a knee injury, and we had to watch all sixty
minutes of Joe Flacco unfortunately. Um, Greg Rosenthal, Um with Chris Wrestline. We are in the as you know, we need a title. What is the name of this house again? It changes every time. I think it was like west Sylvania last time, west West Westsylvania. For now, well, we'll come up with a better name. Thirty to six, Chiefs win, go to five and two. But of course the big news is Patrick Mahomes leaving after appearing to dislocate his knee.
According to James Palmer of NFL Network, he was standing and broke down the team after the game in the locker room, which feels like a good sign. Chris, Yeah, that that was a good sign. You know, we live in this age where there are dozens of Twitter doctors, so we got live updates from all of the people who are experts, and it seemed like at first it might be a very long term injury. And by the end of the game, Yeah, I think there's hope that maybe in a couple of weeks or a few weeks
he could be back on the field. Yeah, James comer again, I will mention, says. I'm told there's optimism within the Chiefs on the knee. But he will have an m r I on Friday. The mood is positive again. The m r I will tell us if it's ligament damage, we'll see. I guess my first takeaway here is just that it was a big win for the Chiefs. It was it was a game we thought that, you know, the division could look totally different if the Broncos win
this game. When Mahomes gets hurt, they're about to kick a field goal to go up thirteen to six. The final score was thirty to six, so they won the game seventeen to nothing from the point Matt Moore took over, which is a disaster for the Denver Broncos at home, but also a great night for the Chiefs defense just kind of get right and uh a good kind of team coaching job that they did find when more came out in the field. Yeah, after seeing the Broncos special
teams and offense. It's hounds funny to say it was a big win for the Chiefs, but the last two weeks the Broncos were playing better than the Chiefs. So I do think it's a big win, especially when you look at the chief schedule. They have Packers and Vikings the next two weeks, which could be with Matt Moore. So it was a big win, right, you got a
manage the schedule. Now the Chiefs, we'll see because by the time everyone listens to this, who knows, maybe there'll be a more definite timeline when it comes to the homes. But if if it's an injury where he is coming back, they've stacked up enough winds. Now at five and two, they're in a division that's not great that you would think they'll be able to survive even a few losses if that happens with More and and from what we
saw tonight, hey, you never know. I love Matt More going way back to the knees when the Carolina Panthers stole them off the Dallas Cowboys practice squad, or they tried to sneak him through waivers to back up Tony Romo, he had some days with the Panthers. Of course, he made it to the playoffs a couple of years ago with the Dolphins. Had a nice throw to Tyrequel. Didn't really do much in this game, um, but he was probably the best, you know, the second best quarterback on
the field. I would I would go Power rankings Mahomes. Um. Actually I would go Power rankings Number one Mahomes two more three the punter for Denver who actually never even threw the past, but he did run an r P O. Who was that? Uh? And then uh? And then number four, your boy, Joe Flacco. I think it's it's time west rough game for for Joe started out pretty good and then right around the time of mahomes injury, the offense
went in the tank. Look like Flacco was spooked by Uh, Elijah Wilkinson being beat repeatedly at right tackle and and Garrett Bowls holding penalties Noah Fans drops. But enough of that. Um. We were in London for the live show and Dan created a skit called the Interrogation Room where he put us all you know, under a bright light and had us defend one of our opinions and and the only thing that scared me to death was that he would make me defend Joe Flacco. I could handle anything else,
but but I knew I think you were convinced. In the pit of my heart, I had written down in the season opener, if the Boys let me off of my Joe Flacco stance, I'll happily take it because I don't want to defend this all year and it's time for me to um to unleash some apologies. I took truth seer him at halftime, and here's what came out. Flacco is a Goldilocks QB. Just like Eli Manning. Everything has to be just right in order for it to work.
Not only was I wrong, I was loud wrong. Sometimes the people who only watched nationally televised games can see things with more clarity. Sometimes less is more when it comes to bad football. Flacco had been an average quarterback in most games, but it doesn't matter because no team starting no offense. Garrett bowls in. Elijah Wilkinson is good enough to win with a statue like Joe Flacco in the pocket. And I have to beg forgiveness to um you, Dan Mark and Erica who has to sit in and
listen to me defend Joe Flacco. She doesn't listen. She just kind of tunes out Greg for shooting down Greg for shooting down your Broncos trade ideas on Wednesday, acting like they still had a chance to get back in some wild card race. Dan asking for why I excuse Flacco but knock Eliot at the same time, which was a totally fair, uh statement, Mark for his contempt of Flacco as a stone pony, which is a stute analysis on Mark's part. You were all right, you were patient,
and you were fair. I was wrong and a jackass. Accept any punishment deemed appropriate by the group and the listeners. Wow, this contrite, you know, genuine sentimental almost west is is a new is a new well. It's disgusted. Its disgusted as trick men surely was by this performance. It was just horrendous. It was I couldn't stomach it for the last I guess the last two quarters got real quiet and west manor we just you know, in the last twenty minutes, there wasn't much left to say. It was
like watching a funeral. Well, you know, the first quarter looked like the Broncos in most of their games. It looked decent, non nice drive, one ugly drive, Joe Flacco making some some really nice passes and no offense dropping all of them. Uh, Courtland Sutton looking good that you know, Courtland Sutton has been a really good player this year. In Philip lindsay most of the time. I know, at one point you said, Royce Freeman isn't even trying to
make anyone miss out there. He's not even trying. It looks like he tried to get tackled. There are some bad I wouldn't say Royce Freeman is a bad now he's on this particular play he ran into a tackle. There are some guys on on this offense who aren't doing much to help the quarterback. But at the same time, the quarterback is doing nothing really to help the rest of the guys on the office. Even in you all that um, you know explanation, and I accept your apology.
West I even before you said anything, I was gonna just decide to let you off the coaster. I guess Dan and Mark and in theory have to you know, personally do that too. But I think it's time. Um. This tonight was your punishment. Tonight was your punishment for being on the coast here because the last couple of weeks where they got a couple of wins sucked you and and some of the Broncos fans back in that maybe they could do this because the defense is getting better.
Defense played fine tonight. Defense well was not the problem. Special teams put him in a huge hole early and then the strip sack of Flacco, which you know, I don't know if that one was even his fault. Anthony Hitchins looked like kind of unblocked. He's got He's got to learn to put the ball away a little better. He fumbled a few times. That was where Yeah, a couple of free blitzers came through. Lindsey picked up one. Flacco had to be aware at least of the other.
But yeah, he was eating up those sacks. He was you know, Mario, does you know bench now? And Flaco though, I need to pick up the slack. I need to get sacked as much as possible. There was eight of them tonight. That was a record for Flacco. They don't have anyone to go to because Drew lock Is he's still on I R and and didn't look great and he could be back soon. Yeah, he he could be back.
But this this was a fork in the road game, I said, going into it for the Broncos, uh, and it gave a very clear direction of where John Elway could go. There's three guys on this team, um that won a Super Bowl in the season that I think have a strong chance to not be on the team in two weeks. That's Chris Harris, who I really think could have some value, and then Derek Wolf and Emmanuel Sanders who both could have value as well. And all three of them, maybe they don't get all get traded.
We'll see what other teams want. But Ian Rappaport put a report out a couple of weeks ago saying basically Elway would listen to anyone any trade offers except for von Miller. All three of those guys are in the final year of their contract, and I think they could help a team. And to me, when Ian made that report and checked, I checked out who maybe he was talking about. You know, it's pretty clear to see those are those are veterans in their thirties on the final
you're their contract. This this made a very clear direction of which way they'll go. The Chiefs, you know, will will go toward the playoffs. But if you're the Raiders or maybe even the Chargers, you look at the Mahomes injury and you think, you know, maybe maybe there'll be some daylight in this division. It's just it's just not going to be for Denver this year. Sorry, well, I I can see that finally. Um, but if you're the Saints and Patriots, you have to love this outcome. The
Patriots not only because the sandtrick Mahomes gets hurt. Both of them are in the market for a wide receiver and Emmanuel Sanders could be. Yeah, it's an ugly way for tonight to end. I mean they boo the home crowd booed that Broncos team off the field a number of times tonight, including at the end of the game.
And uh, I always think that if a team and a fan base has seen some championships, I think they're harder on their team, uh than than other, you know, organizations, because they've seen what winning looks like and they're angrier about it. And I know my uncle Dave, uh send an angry text my cousin just they know what good football looks like and this, Yeah, oh they're great. They at the end of the game and kept doing Yeah. I mean if ever an offense and special teams needed
doing well. I mean the crazy part is and we don't need to spend a million minutes on this game. But they made the Chiefs look like the eighty five Bears. The Chiefs could not get a stop the last month. You DeShawn Watson dropped back forty three times. Wasn't sacked last week, it was five days ago. It was only hit twice. They sacked you know, Flacco eight times. As I mentioned, Frank Clark has had a disastrous season as a pass thresor. Had a great night. Emanuel Aga, Who's
who's been a good signing overall? You know for the money, I had a great night. Garrett Bowls needs to be benched, you know, Elijah. It's easy to say, and a lot of people are saying that, but they've already have their third tackle starting at right tackle. They have got one
easy to easy. At certain point, you have to have a standard and if your guy is playing that poorly year after year and having a holding, the guy playing right tackle is getting beat as much as any right tackle in football, and he's better than the guy on the bench. That's what you're assuming that they that they're not protecting a draft pick that was a John Elieman. I'm saying the guy playing the right tackle would would be the replacement, and he's already getting beat worse than
the guy you want benched. It was. It was amazing to see. I don't necessarily think the Chiefs have turned it all around defensively because of this game. Well well put it. I mean, I know everyone loves to have their fun with Flacco, but he doesn't get set nine or ten times every game. You you do have to credit the Chiefs. Sure way to good Chiefs. Yeah, I mean you showed up. It was a kind of game they need get to have. Uh, the fact that they did it. Like I said, when Mahomes went ten for eleven,
didn't look overly mobile. Um was about to lead his team, you know, two more points. He had one good touchdown drive that the Broncos did a good job, you know, holding him out of the end zone on a short field once and then he got hurt. But the play call on on fourth and one. Maybe you come a discussion at some point. It's tricky. I hate killing Andy Reid for that. After the fact, you figure your quarterbacks out there. You should be able to call a fourth
and you know, short sneak. But it's a tough moment when you when you do call it, he's already injured and you suffer a serious injury. Yeah, we have no idea if that play was any relation to the ankle injury whatsoever, might not have. But if I'm a Chiefs fan, I'm I'm just wondering. You know, even before that play, I hope they don't sneak it with Mahomes. Why risk it? But what's next? What's next for this Chief's team if if they have Matt Moore. I guess it's all about
the timeline. I don't think they'll be favorite against the Packers or No, they are just trying to survive. Um And again it was announced. I mean it is officially a dislocated knee, kneecap, and there's a lot of different ways that can go. I don't know, it's this is one team I'm always hesitant to, like, you know, give a team a dirt nap too early in the season, But the Broncos it's time. Wow, if even we stuck, if even Greg is going the fork, I know I
stuck a fork in the fork segment. There's no coming back, partly, you know, partly because of the trades and and everything, and this was there. This was kind of their super Bowl, this was their primetime game. To get back in the mix and to not show up like that. I mean, they might win some more games the rest of the way, but they're not. They're not doing anything. They're irrelevant from here on out. I feel like jet lag hit me, like midway through the third quarter. I've been fine a week.
I've been getting some nice nice America watching this game. Did not go to London, and they all felt je legged watching this game. Yeah, the the it was like the melotonin like kicked in. That should be las nickname is melotonin. Right as I saw the shot of you know, Patrick Mahomes dad going into the locker room, it's just sad. Don't take don't take Patrick Mahomes away from us. I know Chiefs fans feel like that, don't don't ruin this guy. He's so special and he's everything about his career and
everything that's gone. Casual football fans feel that way. Everybody, Patriots fans. I'm feeling that way. And and I'm James Palmer's hair and fantaist. I'm an optimist. I know we're watching the postgame show as we do this. I think I think that's a sign. When James Palmer's Hair uh make an appearance on the show, I think that that's time to call it a night. I mean, we're gonna that's it. Well, you know, there's no rule. You don't have to go twenty nine minutes like uh Burrgo and
Eddie Spaghetti did last week. Sometimes the game only deserves a twelve or thirteen minutes. I have no idea how long we've gone. It's been a long week. We're pumping out a lot of podcasts. We love you all, and we're gonna be back on Sunday with the flagship program. If you haven't checked out our preview show, it was a corker today. I mean it started out a little bumpy and we really willing at that point by the end. That's all from west Manor Thursday Night Football thirty to
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