Be Around the NFL Podcast. It feels good to be loved. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan hans Is. I'm coming to you from a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenvalf. What is up, voees? Yo? Excited? I am feeling the love I'm feeling. Are you yelling directly into the microphone? Yo? Greg?
I mean this has already gone, you know, on Instagram, somewhat viral about viral, but it's been put on Instagram, and you've seem to have learned the lesson to the Graham off my app. I don't have to watch myself do stupid things. I'm gonna do a stupid thing possibly during this show too. There's a fridge repair guy who they got a cancelation. They they're coming. Having a fridge broken during a heat wave is a problem. Uh, And I'm gonna have to answer that phone. So I'm just
I'm warning you fun. Dan's just walked off sets, so every things should be fine. Eric and I can handle it ourselves. This is this is this is life right now with pandemic Okay, you got the pandemics. Still still royal, Dan, didn't even mute as Mike, you just left the kids are the kids are starting school again and now like it's like it's like a virtual learning to this time.
We mean it like you're gonna lock your kids on the computer for five hours and the NFL season starting, So it's a door, Dan, Or did you just your children? I did not beat my children. Yeah, no I didn't. I don't need to mute it. I think I think our company and also all major companies that are acting as if you know, this is okay that working parents can somehow juggle full time jobs with children that are in the house seven that need now to be educated
for hours and hours a day. The center doesn't hold one of them. You know. It's just something has to go, and it's gonna be either the podcast or the children. I think it's a child us. Yeah, I might think. I think it's the children. The federal government has told a lot of people, um, they don't really care about them. Um, you know for much of our country's history, but a little extra during this pandemic, and children are are on the list old people don't forget about people who who
else can go? Mark? You know, who else can go? Who's that You and I and Mark and Greg. We could all go. We could die. We could die from this, from the from the crushing stress of trying to put eighty two puzzle pieces together, the dumb thing. Yes, um, anyway, we're still lucky. We're very mal Assassin is starting to
feel like a pretty good option. Here's the thing, though, The football adds a level of like, Okay, it's gonna be tricky, but in the end, if it feels good, not just because we like football, but I it is nice even though we're gonna be juggling it to like have to have like real things to talk about in real work versus like trying to make up stuff during the summer. I believe it's a good at the end of the day. Yeah, at the end of the day.
You know, we have awesome jobs. And you know, boys, I am not you know, I'm not one to self mythologize. You know, I'm not. I'm not one of those people. But why not share an anniverse to do what I feel like you're exactly one of those people. No, no, I would never do that, but uh, I want to share an anniversary. Uh today, ten years ago today, the old zeuser left the cold town behind to start a new life in California. I got on an eight pm
flight American Airlines JFK L A X hit. I hit the reset button on everything, and here he is right here. Look at that boy. Look at that a little bit less salt in the in the hair situation there. Yes, you can see the difference. A lot has happened in those ten years, marriage, children, everything we've done here at
the NFL. So despite everything, I do feel grateful today. Mark, I am still not very happy about the fact that in these ten years that we've worked together, that you had football Sundays off for the first two years of it. But otherwise, other than that, it's been a great run with you as well. I do I do. You know, we and our friendship was just sort of in its early stages then, and you were the Browns and Jets were,
you know, trying to figure themselves out. But I would text you from the Brown's bar that I'd go to on Sundays and you would be rolling into work about that time, into what is essentially like eight bees nests put together, and I'm like, you know, floating home to have a nice Sunday and watch the late game by myself, and that put our our friendship on on rocky territory, I think early on. But Dan, I don't know if
I'm gonna go that far. But well, I don't know if we'd even be sitting here if I had, you know, on your second day of work, if I hadn't taught you, um the content management system CMS, uh, what where would you be? I mean I think that you know, set the table work, your training work on the content management system. As someone who had you know, fourteen days of additional experience,
that is something I will never forget. Well, so thank you appropriate And then Greg came, and then West showed up, and you know, we were just a podcast made it very very big anyway, ten years ago today, how about that? All right, let's get into today's new show. Not even like a congratulations from Greg or like cot Well, I was noticing he can't do that thing basic things, my my congrats, was holding off on making more self mythologizing. Joe,
I can't say that word. I guess it's so you can't. Okay, so good, you're a good guy, Greg. It reminded me a little bit, if it reminded me a little bit it's like whenever, like like someone on Twitter, like an actor on Twitter, will be like twelve years ago today, first day on the set on Ghostbusters four, and it's just like, okay, what is going on with it? All right, let's do some news. It's a rundown Friday. Let's hit it.
I get ready from a big moment. Baby good Michael Morton and speaking of you know, ten years working together, Mark and what a long, crazy ride it's been to me still the G eight is individual scene that represents male friendship in the history of film. Is Pitt DiCaprio at Rick Dalton's home watching FBI together and just chilling on the couch. What a genius scene by Tarantino. I think that's sort of what the whole movie is about. I mean it's that to me, that's sort of the
heartbeat the whole thing. And that and that was ripped from an actual FBI episode where DiCaprio is playing what was Burt Reynolds character in real life, So I mean that's a total Tarantino is um got the poster right behind me, So here we go, Here you go. Greg comments on that conversation between Dan and I, uh, you know, I had a great male bonding moment watching that movie with our buddy Gonza. Of course, there's lots of you know, got you know. John Ronald Gonzalaz board mark twelve nine
is an American sports writer. Was married NFL media broadcaster College Wolf. John, who was a Pisces, resides in Los Angeles with his wife and Jude dogs. Colleen was there too, and and her friends. I guess it wasn't all males, but it just felt it is a good hang movie. Watch. Yeah, there you go. All right, nice Greig. Uh, we're back on track. All right, let's get into the news. Starting
with some sobering news. Actually, UH Washington football team coach Ron Rivera announced Thursday that he has been diagnosed with what he terms to be a very treatable and curable form of limp node cancer. Rivera told the ESPNS Adam Schefter that he was stunned, he was angry. He feels like he's in the best best health that he's been in. But he went to the doctor because he had a lump on his neck and he got the diagnosis. He's gonna continue to coach, that's his plan. It's full speed ahead.
Uh Rivera says, but now he has uh this on his plate and we wish him the best. And obviously cancer is something that's very close to this podcast is Chris Westling fights cancer for the second time in the past few years, so we understand how all encompassing that becomes. Ron Rivers are. Greg is a guy that we've already talked about on this podcast has more on his shoulders as a head coach than really any coach I ever remember since we've been doing this show, and now he
has the fight of cancer in his personal life. Yeah, there's I can't think of a coach taking a job and then having to deal with more quickly just from an organizational standpoint, and then this personally is so separate
and you you hope the best for him. It's encouraging that that the doctors told him keep working, but he did say he's gonna feel it, you know, he expects to feel it a little more in three or four weeks, and um, so I'm sure that's something that that the Washington football team is going to do everything they can to support him, and that if someone needs to step in and help him with some of his duties in that time, you know, I'm sure at least they have
a little bit of plan for Jack del Rio. Is there their defensive coordinator, who, of course has been a head coach a couple of times. Yeah, I mean, I can't really think of of a coach that has garnered more respect um and and you know to his days as a player, uh and right into what he's done now. And it's I think it's it's so heightened and clear to see in Washington taking on, as you said, just extra rolls, stuff that head coaches in their first season
typically wouldn't be asked to do. I can think when when when the Rams moved, they essentially kept Jeff Fisher around UM an extra season or two because they wanted someone who had been there just to manage that transition. Rivera is doing this all after been there for a couple of months, and like I do think head coaches probably have a tough time stepping down from their duties.
And you hope that um physically, if there is, it becomes complicated that there will be a way for him to get the resty needs because you know, we've seen it personally, what it what it can do. The coronavirus too. I mean, you have. You have to be a little extra worried when you're when you're at risk. The team has a quote planned b in place of Rivera does have to step away from his duties. And yes there is also a teacher bull moment in there for all
of us. Rivera detected that lump, didn't ignore it, went to the doctor. We should all follow that path if you ever see something that's at a place on the old bod. You know, we talked about bods on the show,
and this is talking about the body in a different way. Still, I feel like I have a lot of lumps on my body right now and it's not they're not I don't know what a doctor would say about it, but it's unpleasant to the eye, you would say, she'd say, get back on that beach body work at I can see you going to the doctor and explaining all the maladies on your body and then the doctor just being like, you're almost fifty. I don't. I haven't been to a regular doctor sort of checkup type thing in a in
a in a long time. Probably advice. Yeah, all right, how about this? How about what just have with Ron RIVERI go maybe make that the reason to go to the doctor, Well my doctor again, it is going to be female assassin, and it's there's it's prevalent, and it's so it's you know that doctor's appointments are now virtual too. They're not letting you in or their requesting don't show up right now, which which makes sense. So you're looking you're looking for more of a Cavorkian is what you're saying,
essentially to bring in Norway. Like if if Mark suddenly leaves for Norway, will have to be a little worried. Uh. In other news, a certified trope alert down there in Tampa,
Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians Trot. Trot believes that Rob Gronkowski, the version that they're seeing right now in Florida, the version that Tom Brady successfully lured out of retirement after one year, is the same guy who is the greatest tight end of all time in New England years ago, the guy that has all these records and Super Bowls and all that um years lay it or at age thirty one with a body like an operation game board, and after a year out of the game, Arian says
he's totally rejuvenated. And the guy that's on the team now is that all time great Mark, are you buying this or is this a certified trop Allert? Well, first of all, I think that the trope Lady Um is not exactly a nine to five grinder. She probably does about two hours of work over the course of an entire year on this show. But she does a nice job with it, and she's very consistent. I'll start right there, um pleasant voice, but I do. But here's why I buy it. If you put Gronk like on The Bears
or you know, the Chargers, I'd have questions. But he's paired with Brady, and he's basically talked about the fact that you know, Guerrero and Brady have been working with him closely and he's changed his diet and this stuff has worked for Tom Brady. And Tom Brady and Gronk like the fact that they're paired together. I buy the idea that his body is healthy and they're gonna produce right away because they're like peanut butter and jelly. I mean,
these two just know each other. Why buy it because you can see it in the little clips people. I mean it's funny. You would think you can't get anything out of these running on air clips. But it's like Robert Ronkrowski couldn't move, you know, the last time he was on the field, and he couldn't move in some of those training camps either. Like it wasn't like he
showed up and people were like, oh, gronks back. It was like he never really recovered in the last couple of years of his career from the cascade of those injuries. Now that said, he hasn't played football yet. I mean there hasn't been real hitting and probably the biggest decline I saw in Rob Gronkowski in his last season was as a blocker, where he was no longer a difference maker um in terms of his blocking, although he was out there and he gives you flexibility. I think the
back injury really came into play there. So you're gonna have to watch him play a real fifty snaps in a game and do that a few times and see how he holds up. Then I do buy though that he is moving better. He has to be. I think he is, and he and he said it, he says I I think he It makes sense a year from away from the game, and it sounds like he worked out harder with the w W E and with the brady stuff than than he probably was beforehand, he said.
He basically admitted he didn't work as hard as he could have working out beforehand. Dan's not buying it. No, I'm not buying it right now. Part of you not want to buy it even if you are. I have no problems with Gronk. What do I what does Gronk doing well? How does that affect me? Negatively? I have no problem with it. But the fact of the matter is like, yeah, you could look great running around in shorts in August, but the body is gonna that body is gonna be cranky again once he gets tackled a
few times and uh meet some crushing blocking assignments. And it is the reason why we roll out trope alerts on this show is because it's legit and it usually does hide the reality. And the reality is that this trope is coach colon, aging veteran with history of lower body injuries actually as good as ever that's not possible.
That never happens. So we'll see. And if you guys want to put uh your sandwiches where your mouth is, I'd love to do some statistical um not in this one, because to me, it's not the lower it's the back. It's the back of the neck. And that when when you were a fan of the Patriots watching Gronk, every time he got tackled from behind on his back, you just you held your breath, and half the time he
did get hurt. I mean that is always how he got her is someone kind of tackling him, jumping on his shoulders because he's not going down, and that's it. And then he's not the same the rest of the season. So and I can see it. I could say, have two other good tight ends there or ones that they could service. You could use a lot. And I don't snaps. I don't think you're talking about the fact that he could have the third fewest snaps of the tight ends. Well,
Peter King, Peter King speculate that. I'm just saying, but I would imagine behind Howard, like if Howard is healthy, Um, I think they'd be smart not to use Gronk seventies right, The idea that you would phase out someone's talented as O. J. Howard because old man Gronks back in town. There's a way to make this work while you don't, you know, give up on O. J. Horroard because he had a
bad twenty nineteen. All right, Well, meanwhile, on the throne of sleeves Grons Old team, Jared Stidham is having a rough camp. He is right now battling injury. It's discomfort in his leg, is how it was explained by rap sheet. He's also been throwing the ball all over to the place and practice, including the guys on the other side um of the field on defense. So Stidham struggling with turnovers and practice and now battling a leg injury all
good news if you're a Cam Newton fan. Mark, Yeah, I just I get that there's been this talk about you know who's going to start, and they start multiple quarterbacks. To me, it's a stunting upset if Cam Newton, even even if you remove the interceptions, isn't your Week one starter, and and and continues on that way. I that that's just where I'm sitting. I don't like that. There are things that I just don't need to pay that deep attention to in training camp with no preseason games, and
it's stuff like this. I mean now, I mean Stidham to me is a project, and so far the project is not going very well, right, I think it's not surprising after you know, not having O. T A s. They come out there and they're going up against the best secondary in the league that you know, you can pick that you can guess which team offenses are all getting the bad reviews in camp. The Jets are another one where it's like the offensive talent doesn't match up
with the experience and the talent of the defense. And there's a few others around the league like that. Doesn't surprise me that Stidham, Hoyer and Cam, you know, hasn't looked that great. Stidham supposedly has been throwing the nicest ball, but he's been throwing it to the other team, you know, seven times. McDaniels, Josh McDaniel said, Stidham's practicing next time
they're in full pad. So I I don't I'm not really that can The injury doesn't really matter that much as much as he would have to play so well in camp and show that he was so far ahead of Cam to play him ahead of Cam, and he's not. He's a second year fourth round pick right now. ESPN is my Reese believes that none of the Patriots quarterbacks have quote flashed and summer practice so far. Yeah, I don't put anything into that, like, yeah, do I think
my Jets are going to the Super Bowl this year? No? But am I freaking out because the offense? I mean, all offenses are going through it right now. It's especially part of the machine here, right there's just two. There's so much more to to to learn and grasp in variables on offense than there isn't for most defense. I want to know how Cam throwing the ball. I want
to know how Cam's throwing the ball. The fact that Reese said, and I've seen it twice that you know, if you just look at who's made the best throws, who's got the best arm, you know, has had the best plays in the passing game, it's been Stidham. That makes me wonder, how is Cam throwing the ball? How does his arm look? Because that is the bigger concern to me, not the toe and the foot injury that
he had last year. We still haven't really seen him rip it um for a long time since that shoulder surgery, and that that's what I am most concerned about, at least as a path I guess I'm confused in for people that study the game, and no like to say that Yard Stidham is throwing the ball well when he is like seven interceptions and four practice like you could throw a spiral, Like, okay, I could throw a spiral. Point. I think the point is, you know yet he's been
making the biggest mistakes. But if you picked out who has had the best pass plays in camp, they've almost been all Stidham too. So it's like, it's not it's ugly there, he's like he's a bad jamis. It's also it's also, as you mentioned, I don't know what to put into these practices. I also don't think it's a bad thing not to have preseason, but uh, I'm feeling this now. It's like, it is it that big good deal?
I think it's fine. Well to the guys at the bottom of the roster, it's a big deal, um, all right. In other news, the Melvin Ingram standoff and in Los Angeles feels like it's coming to a close. We'll see. But Ingram signed an adjusted contract yesterday, according to Mike Garafolo of NFL Network, with the team that guarantees this
year's salary. According to sources, and according to Mike, this was a driving force in Ingram's return to practice, and he added that we'll see what it means regarding his push for a contract extension. We talked about this on Wednesday show. He's thirty one, coming off not a game breaking type season. Joey Bosa just got the biggest defensive contract ever, So I think his future in Los Angeles very murky. But this feels like greg a move that they made that gets him back on the field and
back to business. Yeah, it's a little love for a guy who has done a lot of great work for them. It's also ultimately not promising much other than you're gonna make the team, which you would have in that if Coronavirus cancels, games will still pay you, so that's a little extra. I do think it's directly related to Bosa. You know, your buddy gets all this money, um, and then you want a little It happened with us when Mark got that monster guaranteed past, guaranteeing him forty million
over the next four years. We all were like, hello, who was a word? Well, it caused a rift, um, But I mean I think they went they went in the right direction with the initial salary bum heading towards me. That didn't make West very happy. He's always been squawking about the money. But um, you know you're right. I also don't. It's pretty clear to me on the Melvin front that they don't. They don't really want to give
him an extension. I mean right, I mean, I think they want to see how the season goes at best. You know, it was the best part though, Mark, when you took that massive extension and you gave every dime so the Boys and Girls Club of North Hollywood, Like that showed me you were a man of character. Yeah. I don't know why I would surprise you that I would do that. It sort of just seems to be right in the in the sort of character that I would. I would. That's how I use my money, Just give
it all the way to other people. Not my own children, but other children and the Boys and Girls Club and uh no ho as they call it, right, your children are using old shoe boxes of shoes, but those kids, and they won't even let my children into that Boys and Girls Club, which I found to be uncivilized. Like let I mean money named it after you, Mark Sessler, Boys and Girls Club of North Hollywood and Luke and Colin got turned away at the door. Yeah, it's not right.
We're working on that all right. In other news, kJ Hamler, the rookie wide receiver UH is out a couple of weeks for the Broncos. Not good with a hamstring injury. And of course, the way the season is barreling towards us now less than three weeks, a hamstring injury UH really puts his Week one availability and doubt. And like you mentioned the Jets and Denzel Mims, their wide receiver
they're very high on, who also pulled a hamstring. When you take a rookie off the field and this offseason, especially during this portion of the season, it's gonna be very tough, you would think for Hammler to find a role early on in and he was a big part of the reason people were so excited about the speed of this Broncos offense. They still pretty good depth. But that's taken away one piece. And you said it just this year more than any I mean, hamstring injuries have
in camp have crushed rookie receivers. I feel like every year, um, and it just feels like it's going to be doubly true this year and we're getting so little news. I think that's part of the reason why, Like it's not a fiery rundown right now, there's no preseason. That's part of it. But I think it's because there's no access. I think there's stuff happening out there that you don't
know about because people aren't in the building. You're only getting these zooms, so you only know what the coaches tell you. And for them to tell you he's out a couple of weeks, that means it's quite serious. Yeah, it's like the position at least want um to see a player tagged with a hamstring injury because at wide receiver it gets it becomes like February March and that wide receiver that had that early season hamstring pull tells you all affected, infected my entire year, and we saw
with Odell Beckham he came back and was fine. But I mean, these things can linger. And I think you're greg your point that, um, we don't really need the preseason from our angle, not the young players. Coaches would love for this access to never or grow anything beyond where it is right now. Their loving this so this is their dream land, you know, and how can they go back to That will be interesting to see how they go back in the media front. And then how
do they go back to three preseason games? I really, I really, I guess they can't renegotiate that. I feel like going back to two feels like that's that's perfect. Going back to three seems crazy. Next year, Odell Beckham is the best case scenario for this type of thing. I mean, we've been doing this long enough. I remember his rookie season. He yanks his hamstring at Giants camp because the guy's always hurt, and he is out the entire first month of the season. And then he gets
back and he's so incredibly talented. He's still let let the league on fire. But unless you're at that kind of level of a talent, it's very difficult to find your role. What are you smirking for? Mark? No? I remember like people being really down on Beckham before they saw him play because of that injury. Why isn't this guy? Guys always hurt? And I have to watch all these social media clips this week. Oh look at Odell. He
just leap frogged over his own linebackers. Like that's why Mark smirkin Well, Like, while while O'Dell is, you know, walking on water this August. Let's just hope he doesn't pull a hammy doing that. You know, it's just like, I want to see this guy but play sixteen games you and you and Odell Beckham have never felt like the like a road trip pairing that would work out very well. There just seems to be some heat between you guys. But Beckham also played wire to wire through
injury all last season. I mean, do we give him any credit for that or does that get where does that play into the equation? You get more credit if you play well. Unfortunately, yea thousand yards season while injured. Okay, alright, alright, a lot of drops here, it was. Here's the thing with the Odell and Beckham injury is very confusing to me because when you watched, especially at the end of the season. I wouldn't watch his last five Baker games.
Oh that was open all the time, and he had a ton of drops and he didn't have a lot He was bad on contested catch. So the whole part of him being injured was confusing because the biggest problem you had, I thought, was like he wasn't on the same page and he couldn't come down with passes in the past then he did. Maybe that is the hamstring, but it wasn't like he didn't have opportunities. But that's two thousand nineteen. Let's move on from there. That's in
the past. Speaking Wait, hold on, it's the fridge. I'll be back in speaking of bye bye, Greg. Um. You know the top of the show, Mark when Greg, you know, you just you want to have that moment where we're all sharing it. It's like ten years ago, I moved here and we've been on this roller coaster ride together, uh for the past eight years, and you just wanted him to be involved with the conversation. But it just didn't seem like we could get him to engage there.
He seemed a little reticent. I'd like to dig deeper into why that, Why that was? Um, I think the findings might be unpleasant to to you and uh maybe to me also and potentially to Erica. So I don't maybe we don't take deeper into that. Ricky, what do you think? What do you make of that? I think it was clear as day. Unfortunately you guys. Um, Yeah, like Mark said, I don't I don't think you should dig deeper into it, because it doesn't go very deep.
He just doesn't like you, guys. Yeah, it seems it seems rather evident, like there's no warm feelings about the last care if you've been there for ten years, I think to us, to us, seems he'll be fine. Yeah, all right. In the other first round, brag is back. In other first round news involving wide receivers, Marquise Hollywood Brown is poised for a big second year with the Ravens and he's you know, made some headlines. Greg, you mentioned it on a podcast earlier. Uh, this summer, he
gained twenty twenty three pounds. He built up twenty three pounds uh in the NFL off season. That's almost like the entire weight of my three year old child. Um, And you would think that this would be First of all, you worry about his hamstrings and every other part of
his body. But also if you're curious, Mark, I know you're very plugged in on diet and what you put into your body and actually just the sweet Starting this week my own training camp, I've really been cleaning it up and I'm trying to keep the calorie and take below two thousand, which is You know, when you start like trying to track these things, realize how easily you
give away calories. But that's my situation. A guy that's trying to drop weight, Mark, he's around, is trying to gain weight, and he was on a four thousand calorie diet this offseason. And here is the diet you ready, Mark, take note if you want to bulk up breakfast. And by the way, I know these this is a trope in its own right that these stories pop up, But I always like just seeing what these guys are eating. Breakfast seven thirty am four boy old eggs and oatmeal. Snack.
Nine am protein shake and two table spoons of peanut butter. Lunch, Noon a protein either steak, chicken or lamb with rice, potatoes and greens. Snack. Two pm Damn snack in the honor of Rex Ryan protein shake, ten ounces of almond milk, one banana, and two table spoons of peanut butter. Dinner, five PM early dinner, another protein again steak chicken or
salmon with rice, potatoes and greens. And then seven thirty pm finally one more snack, another protein shape, ten ounces of almond milk, yogurt and two table spoons of peanut butter, and that's how you get and then you work out like a maniac and you're you're like a almost hilariously gifted physical specimen. You can gain twenty three pounds of muscle that way. That's that's just a bodybuilders regiment. I mean, so there's gotta be, you know, periods of lifting in
between all that. I don't know, you know, I think that it probably would if I tried that diet, it would do an absolute job on the intestine an old tract. I don't know how that would work out, but that's that's how you put those pounds on. That's how you do it. Imagine at five am, no, thank you, I think I could give it a give it a go. Maybe I'd have to downsize it a little bit here
and there. But by the time you got to the the nine thirty or the third protein shake with the extra two table spoons of peanut butter and and almond milk, and that's the third time today, and you just date like your second stake and you'd just be like stuffing it down in that peanut butter and on will would be like coozy, not your greg. You sound like a perfect person to sponsor this type of plan. You know, we've never had it. We've never had a meme on
this show yet something that really broke through. Greg. You spoon feeding your the peanut butter into your mouth. I think that could do it. That's two shows in a row where you've created a Greg with You know you're a meme generator. Lately, well, I feel you know, we talked about it. I think it was earlier this year. When you want social media advice, you just come to me. You know that's true. Triple g uh. And finally in
the news, bad times for Thom Brenneman. I think he goes by Tom, but I mean T H O M. And you want me to call you Tom. At a certain point, you need to make the choice. You're right, that's not what we're focusing on here. Red's broadcaster and West has been listening to this guy and watching this
guy for decades as a Cincinnati Reds baseball fan. But Tom Brenneman suspended from working Cincinnati's games after using an anti gay slur on the air on Wednesday night, prompting the team to apologize for what they called a horrific homophobic remark. Which it was, and promptly, uh, Fox about twelve hours later announced they were pulling Tom off the air on NFL Sundays. And you know, once this story is out there and it's one of the all time broadcasting gaffs uh that I remember to do that live
on the air and say what he said. But when they were giving his background, I was stunned to see that Brenniman, Fox stole CBS, stole the NFC coverage from CBS in and it was a landmark thing Fox getting into the broadcasting game. And Tom Brenneman was on the first group of teams in ninety four and he's been there the entire time since. So you guys can do the map there. I mean, the guy has been a
staple there. Um. So with Brennaman out for this season and likely beyond that, I thought this would just be a good time to take a look at where we're at with the Fox teams real quick, I'm gonna go through the Fox teams. And if you don't follow this as closely as we do, because we kinda are way into this because we're just these teams mark right, They're just so they become a part of our life for four months, especially if you're for your job, you're trying
to watch all the games. You can't get away from these guys. They better be pleasant. Yeah, to your point, for more than four months, for ten years, in some cases fifteen years. I mean you can hear their voices in your head if I say Pat Summer all, Uh, you can hear his voice if you think about it in your mind right now. I mean, that's that's good. Rights, that's that's good, And that's the good teams. There are a couple of teams and you can get into it.
I mean, there are certain teams that um lessen my enjoyment of some games. Uh, you know, they're not all creative. E Tom was one of those for a while. I mean at some point last year I almost got to the point that I thought they were so bad. They're good, but he's such a blowhard. He's so opinionated and knows so little that it almost cracks me up. And he's with Chris Fieldman, who I like, and it's kind of fun.
But the two of the off each other where we're insane so good ridden Greg takes the tas we talked about it, We talked about him on this show before this. Yes, so here are the team, just just for posterity. Uh. The A team is Joe Buck Troy Aikman since two thousand six, that's been the team with Aaron Andrews as the sideline reporter. The B team, which I believe to be solid as well, Kevin Burkhardt, Darryl Johnston and Pam Oliver because Charles Davis CBS Burkhart underrated. I like Burke
Haart a lot. Burkhart's great. Yeah. The third team, this is interesting. Kenny Albert, who's solid. Jonathan Vilma is that new? Yeah? Who was Albert working with last year? Does anybody recalled? I think Randi Barber m. Kenny Albert was Marve Albert's younger brother, and I realized I learned more recently than I should have, that it's his son. Yeah. I always Kenny Albert has been around for a billion years and it's his son anyway, That is stunning to me. I
always thought it was mean. Is like, you know he's been he's still in top form, or or at least close to it considering, but yeah, I think he's approaching his eighties or maybe you know, he is late seventies if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, So Albert and Vilmo will be interesting to hear how Vilma does this season. I thought they were really good on ESPN as a you know, studio guy, but I haven't heard him out a game. As they'll have rotating sideline reporters and sideline reporters. Is
that going to be a thing this season? Probably know? They actually announced that they that NFL Network reporters, I mean all sideline reporters are barred from barred from the field during games for the two the entire season, all right, So thom was with Spielman as we said, and Shannon Spake was the sideline reporters. So Shannon, I guess it is not involved or will have a different role from out of the mix. So they got a plug they could potentially um mix in with one of their other teams.
They have Chris Myers uh and a booth mate to be named later. Wasn't Myers with Barbara I always tried to mute that channel. Yeah, that's not my favorite. Um And then the final team is Dick Stockton, Mark Flare, and Jennifer Hale. So we'll see what Fox does. They have some they have a notable hole to fill up to play by play spot for their d team. I mean, Dick Stockton has been doing games since about nineteen. Uh, you know our guy Peter Schrager loses that sideline work
that he's excellent at. Wonder what they'll They'll probably come up with some other work around, I like kind of in the NBA. Maybe they'll do it in the you know, in the walkways, like under the stadium. I don't know, they'll probably come up with something. But like listening to that group, you no offense to Dick Stockton and thom and Chris Myers, Well, I guess some offense. Let's get some new blood in. I mean, I know it's a difficult job, but some of these guys football is not
their main sport. There's a sense of punching the clock, like we can find the next generation of people, let's do it. Yeah, there's no feeling they've been around forever. I am. I'm with you. It might be the old Damaschek thing, which maybe it's changing now. But damascheck was always mystified that we couldn't find thirty two people on the planet who can play quarterback on a high level. UM, I think it's maybe a tougher jobs, and we I mean, we're giving it respects saying it's a tough job. But
I think it's even tougher than that. The guys that can do it, you know, call out immediately who the player is, have an understanding of the game and a knowledge of the teams to be able to talk for three to four hours. I have something for people that do it well, honestly, because I think Greg, We've talked about this hundred times, that Gregg is good at you know, this is happening, this flag was thrown, or you know, oh, Sean Payton just let eight seconds go off the clock
in the middle of the third quarter. Greg's having a hissy fit over it. I don't know why at all. Like I just watched the games and I'm sort of like I bathe in the in the overall environment of the game, and there are nuggets things I see, but I need to kind of sometimes stop pause and see what's I'm just not great at like instant else. If someone put me on play by play, that broadcast would be an absolute disaster to the person. Box should not reach out to Mr Cesler. I'm not the new blood
that there that they should be seeking at all. Sideline reporter also a tougher job than people realize. You gotta track down pr people to get injuries. I mean, these jobs are they look easy and they're not easy. All right, Well put mark, that's what's happening in the news. Greg is thinking I could do play by play. That's why he did not know. I'm terrible. I did do color on college television that tu lane for a couple of years. I could never do play by play. Throw me in
the color. That'd be fun. But I did that a little bit that I would never it would be terrible. Yeah, it's well, it looks like according to Wikipedia, Chris Myers needs somebody to do color with him this year. Well there you go. I mean, just just get like the quarterbacks and names. Right, come on, let's get Mike Burke Wits on the phone. See if we can get you on the on the E team for Fox this year like that. I gotta start somewhere, all right, what's up,
Burco If you're listening, all right? That is it? Hey again. Reminder, the show on television is tomorrow Saturday, NFL Network around the NFL broadcast, which is a detailed rundown if everything happened there it is in the week that was, and we have we're having a lot of fun doing that. We tape it actually right after today's broadcast, so if you want to watch it on Friday's digitally, it's on NFL dot Com at three pm Pacific, six pm Eastern, I believe, so check out the around the NFL broadcast.
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Um hoping West is gonna be with us for the Monday show and and uh coming up next Wednesday, of course the Fantasy Extravaganza. So everything is starting to heat up. Now it's getting wild. Let's get out of here. This is Dan hands Is signing off four Quiet Storm, the old Boss, Rocky Hollywood behind the glass. Ten years gone, man, ten years gone. Until Monday