Cam Newton to the Patriots: Winners and Losers

than me? Believe believing that this man was destined for a greater career than than really he's had. When you when you break it down, now it's time, all right, we're gonna get into it. Of course, everyone knows the big news that came about this weekend, Cam Newton signs a one year deal with the New England Patriots. The throne of sleeves thriving. And this is so everybody knows, you know, Greg, obviously, Ricky maybe a bouncing our step will get to that in a little bit, but you

know what, Mark, you could have a bounce in your step. Two. Because this is our last show before our little mini summer vacation. Don't get angry at as listeners. But we were taking off the rest of the week after today's show, and we're gonna celebrate Fourth of July with the family and just get a little bit of a breather, and we'll be back next Monday. But this will be your last show, first and only show of the week. Mark.

I know you fought this behind the scenes. You kept on coming back to Greg and I and you're saying no, no more content, more football talk, and during our global pandemic, give us, give us what we want, give us what the listeners need. But we had to beat you back on that one. Yeah, no, I I know, you know.

I think it's to my nature that I pushed to um maybe go five shows this week and get back to that um mode that we were in when Cam Newton um was you know, jettison from the Panthers doesn't feel that long ago, but it's a full three months ago at this point. So we have buzzed through this offseason at high speeds. Our daily shows feel so long ago to me. When did goes ND, I honestly don't remember. Was it May We were counting them at one point? Uh no? And then did after the third day of

the draft. Okay, so yeah about May. Basically we did it for a month and a half. That feels like another lifetime ago. Yeah, it does not feel like yesterday to the longest year of my life. And I know I'm not alone on that front anyway. So, yes, we have a lot to get to, uh some news, but of course the big news is around Cam Newton, and we're gonna have it just in a little bit. Uh. The great Mike Gara Folo is gonna join us, one of the NFL Network insiders and a guy who is

plugged in on these matters. Uh. But before we do that makes sense to just kind of have a conversation about it, because you know, we just did our last NFL Network show and one of the segments we did was kind of storylines that are going to be sticking in our heads a little bit when the NFL goes quiet during the pre training camp weeks. And the one I mentioned was the two quarterbacks that that are on everyone's minds. One Colin Kaepernick. No other explanation needed there.

I don't think why that's on people's minds, But the other one was Cam Newton and just this idea that the former m v P, one of the great stars of the last decade of the NFL, was going to potentially head into July and maybe into August and who knows when without a job. Well that ended officially on Sunday when Newton signed a one year contract. Ian Rappaport of NFL Network said it was a bare minimum deal

worth up to seven point five millions. So he does get a job, and he didn't need to wait until um he was able to get in front of a team for a workout. The Patriots essentially greg take a chance on Newton, but not even that good chance. It was this is it seems like a perfect fit for both Newton, who not only goes somewhere but has a chance to start, and the Patriots, who, whether anybody wanted to believe it or not, and most of us did not believe it had a major hole at quarterback. Maybe

not anymore, maybe not. I mean his health, Cam Newton is the ultimate X factor, And it's like it's not just an asterisk, it's just sort of this thing hanging over this entire conversation along with you know, will there be a season? But if he is healthy and he's looked healthy in those workouts and his arm looked pretty good. You know, last year, I think everyone forgets you know, including me. I sort of blocked those games out. He

did play, you know, in the preseason a bit. He got hurt against the Patriots and that that's where it all started. But his arm looked good in camp, and the arm is is one concern in the foot injury that knocked him out. That Liz Frank you know that. I mean, not a good lady, you know. He that's the reason he's out. And I have heard and I have tried to ask people about this, and there's some talk like, look if he got hurt again, is that

gonna be it for Cam Newton. There's that sort of talk about him, and that's why no other team offered him a contract. There is a report that he literally had no other offers, and I've seen a lot out there. It's like, wow, he only got Marcus Mariotta money, and it's like, no, he got Jared Stidham money. We haven't seen the details, but the Patriots only had one million dollars in cap space going into this weekend, and so

that tells me maybe they'll move some things around. But very likely he's expected to be right around the minimum as Ian Rappaport said, So he's making about one million, Brian Horrier is making about one million, and Jared Stidham is making about eight hundred thousand or whatever that is. The three of them combined are gonna cost about a third on the cap for the Patriots, as Tom Brady

well this year. So that that's why it was such a no brainer for the Patriots, Like that's obvious, But I think it's also a no brainer for Cam because I believe his main goal is to revive his career, and I really do think it's not me just being a homer that it's hard to imagine him finding a better situation right now, not just a path to play, but a path to potentially succeed and kind of restart the second half of his career after two really disappointing

years for him. Yeah, I think a path to becoming Um a pretty uh easy pick for comeback Player of the Year if things if he's healthy and things went well and people are asking, you know, what kind of offense um will New England run? Well, all that can be sorted out. I think it's an awesome opportunity for Josh McDaniels to show what he can do. UM, I agree with you, Greg, I'm first of all, this is

what the Patriots do. No other team. UM. They say Cleveland made a call at one point about Cam Newton, but that didn't go very far that no other team here in late June uh inquired on any level about Cam Newton and the Patriots did. And if you had a healthy version of that player and what they can do on a team that, by the way, like everyone someone how bare bones the offenses. I just think that they'll I don't agree with that right now when you look at the roster, they are a team that, to

me is a playoff team. If Cam Newton, if you get the good version of Cam Newton, no questions asked. I think you know, when I heard the new news, I was kind of ambivalent about it. I always whenever anything happens regarding the Patriots of the Jets, I get a bunch of like tweets like Dan anybody want to check on Dancy the endless check on filling the blank person? I know it's like man, and we're gonna have We're

gonna do some winners and losers. Uh, the Cam Newton Newton signing after we talked to uh, mikey g But I think this was the other shoe that was eventually gonna drop. But we all expected it too, and maybe not a lot of teams are kicking the tires on Cam, UM, and I wonder why that is. And maybe that's a question will ask Mike, I do want to play Ricky?

Do you have Steve which our buddy UM was on NFL Network talking about the signing and he and he had a nugget that was eyebrow raising, to say the least, about why some teams or most teams are all teams except for the Patriots. UM one reason why some teams

were scared away. Let's listen to that. As I spoke to people from a handful of teams who said, not every team wants Cam's presence, whatever that means, whether it to be the scarves over the head, the fact that he is a big persona in their locker room, whether the coaches couldn't handle it, or maybe the youth or whatever the culture of their locker room couldn't necessarily deal with that. Especially Cam wasn't the starter. Well, as we know,

the Patriots don't care about that stuff. The Patriots don't care about this stuff. And also Cam Newton, and that's another part of this, Greg and I know you wrote about this on NFL dot com. Can if he's healthy, he's gonna be the starter. So if you were a team and and I don't buy into I buy into Wie's report. What I don't buy into is this idea that he was gonna be somebody was dragging a team

down because of his person ownA. But the reason the Patriots makes so much sense is you don't have to worry about plugging him in as a number two and then that becoming a soap opera behind the scenes or in the media. He's gonna be the starter. Jared Stidham is not gonna be at out of healthy Cam Newton, and Brian Hoyer might not even be on the team, right I. I I don't think that's a question it's about

Cam Newton's health. But I do think it points to one reason why the Patriots sometimes have an edge over other teams, and they're they're not the only ones. I really believe they're not worried about everything else having to do with Cam because he's not going to be the leader, Bill Belichicks the leader, like like I know Tom Brady was the leader, but like there's only one of those guys still left. Like ultimately, that's his team and Cam

Newton's gonna be part of it. And there's no reason to think with Cam Newton's competitiveness and leadership that basically every one of his former teammates talk about that it's gonna be a problem anyways. But ultimately, like the Patriots have shown time and again, Randy Moss is another it. But like they're not gonna sweat that and they're not

gonna be tied. And I think this is where they're different than some teams this offseason to some plan that they feel like that's the way they have to win the game, Like that's the way they have to be this season, Like Denver, like we're all in on Drew Lock and that's the only way we can win. No, the Patriots, they just want to figure out a way

to have the best team. And it might be with Jared Stidham starting games this year, not that he's gonna beat him out just because it doesn't work out with Cam. I mean, if they believed with all their heart and Cam they wouldn't. They would have prevented him from signing with any other team if any other team had showed up over the last three months, but no one did. They just offered a minimum contract and figured, hey, it's

worth a shot. Yes, they're gonna I I anticipate expect that Cam is gonna be their starter if he's right, but they're they're not locked into it. They're gonna have plans for if Jared Stidham is the starter too, because how could you not. They are always willing to adapt. And I thought this year they're gonna try to win with defense and their running game and their offensive line I think looks really good at least has a chance to be one of the better Patriots offensive lines that

they've had, and that's how they're gonna win. And I do get a feeling like McDaniels, maybe this is a little bit off your point, but he's you know, there was rumors he wanted Lamar and then you know he's watching all these other teams like beat their defense and give them problems with the athletic guys, and and you do get I do wonder if McDaniels has been looking at that the last few years and getting a little itchy, you know, begin wanting to get that Tim Tebow playbook

out from two thousand ten and say, hey, I was doing some things with with quarterbacks that really weren't like the greatest pastors of the world a long time ago. Give me Cam Newton, then we can fly. Well, weirdly enough, a lot of the Tim Tebow stuff came under John Fox. But I hear you on that, But no McDaniels was was, um, you know, calling the play, you know, calling the place for him, right well, he was dispatched as head coach

at that point. But I but I I think that your point is he drafted Tim Tebow and knew that he'd have to deal with him in a different way, and he'd Cam Newton. Is that you could say, why didn't twenty and other teams going looking too, Cam Newton? This is the perfect fit for him with where we are right now with this team, I mean, and I don't think it's a we simply lost faith in jared' stidham.

It's just like, find out more about jared' stidham. But to me, it just advertises that any concept of Bill Belichick wanting to win with nothing at quarterback, you know, and our friend Chris Wesley made this point, um, you know, demonstrably a few times too that that that the other shoe had not dropped. And ultimately Bill Belichick is not taking a season off. I think his latter legacy later

years with the Patriots matters incredibly to him. And this is a team now that if you get a good version of Cam could be twelve and four without skipping a beat and maybe outperformed Tom Brady. Why is it asking a lot for them to be twelve You ask me a lot? This is why it's asking a lot, because you're really going out on a limb to make that assumption that Cam Newton's healthy and that This is how the the NFL world reacts. This is a a marquee NFL team that is in a post Tom Brady world.

So they're so fascinating. Cam Newton is one of the great superstars of the last ten years. So when they come together, there's this temptation just to be like, yep, all right, he's gonna be the Cam Newton everybody remembers. The Patriots are gonna go fifteen and one. Is Mark prodicted on Twitter yesterday but the reality of the situation, there's so much there's so much unknown right now, and that's part of the reason I'm an Bivalin is a jet spanner as a fan of a team in the

a f C. So that's not the Patriots. Is that before I get all, you know, pupped up and all downtrodden about the Patriots going on another long run, we gotta see how this guy looks. Because he looked very good in the beginning of the twenty eighteen season, and they jacked up his shoulder and had a serious shoulder UH surgery, and then when he came back the next season, his feet gave out and you cannot underplay. And thirty one is not old as a quarterback back, which is

what he is now in two thousand twenty. But when you talk about a shoulder injury and you talk about lower body injuries and the physical way he played the game, everyone's like dan Orloski is a guy we all respect. A Ton was talking about how um what he can bring Cam Newton to this offense is even though they don't have explosive players, his ability to run the football even things out for an offense that doesn't have a lot of big time playmakers. We don't know if he's

that guy anymore. So until we see him that way, that will judge how panicked I am and the rest of the a f C should be. I just think we're not there yet. No, that's that's fair. I said, if he's healthy, If you if you got Cam Newton playing sixteen games, the idea that the Patriots will be twelve and four, I'd be disappointed if they were eight and eate. If you get he could play, but he's still the same player. I mean there's a there is a in between there as well. There's also the guy

the idea that everyone's overrating him, I I don't. I just H'm thinking, if you get the good version of Camp thirty one, other teams decided he wasn't worth it. So I don't think he's being overrated. He's signed a bare bones contract. I think the Patriots have a good chance to come out of this US thinking oh wow, they've done it again in the middle of December. I

just don't think that's crazy. Reality. One other really interesting part of this, because everyone's gonna look at all the rosters that could have had Cam Newton as their backup slash feuding Carolina. They could have looked at it. But the problem is is that Cam and this is through no fault of his own, but he's almost too big a star. And I get why teams like the Pittsburgh Steelers, who are a perfect example, everybody's like, how and Check

is having a meltdown? How was Cam Newton not brought in to be Ben Roethlisberger's back up in his future the future of the franchise because Ben Roethlisberger can't have Cam Newton in the room. I mean, and maybe he can, but I totally get white. Teams will be like, this guy is too big. He's an m v P. He's larger than life. He's gonna bring in a ton of It's gonna be a media circus that we install him

as the backup. And I think that played his big role as people just saying like, I don't think you could play anymore though, that's making decisions, scared, that's making decisions. And I think for Pittsburgh, actually I would disagree with Check. Bennett Roethlisberger is such a unique situation. Hall of famer who frankly, if you know, if he's healthy, is better than Cam or you know, certainly in the same ballpark.

I would put that to the side. It's more of the teams with the young ones where the coaching staff or the young guy they felt like I couldn't handle it, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. There is a real question, even as someone who's believed that Cam could be a Hall of Fame player, and you know he hasn't been to this point, like because he is a transformative guy. I've never seen a player like There is no there's never been a player like me.

He looks like a defense eve end. He is. He was the greatest short yardage runner in the NFL for the last decade. That includes every running back. He was the biggest difference maker in the red zone inside the ten yard line of any player, Adrian Peterson, whatever it is, Cam made a bigger difference. And if you're not getting of that, and I think that's what you're getting to dan of, like is he going to be the same guy with you know, at post foot injury, then it

is different. Now. I think he can still be good and even cent of Cam would be really interesting. And I think there's a real strong argument to make that he had a pretty bogus coaching staff for most of his career. I never believed in Mike Schula. He he you know, he hit aces for one season, but it fell apart right after. It wasn't that impressive before. And uh, I don't think they really knew what to do, and

they didn't really know how to surround him. Whereas with the Patriots, the receivers aren't great, but you know, you just had worst groups. But the running game I think could be solid. The offensive line is good, and more importantly, the coaching game is good, but it is It is not unfair to point out Newton played seen and I went back and looked, you know, at my notes and QB index and stuff, and like he struggled those years and a lot of bad things happened around him. It

was a coaching the injuries around him. But he was kind of a mid level quarterback. He was. He has not been a top ten quarterback other than that first half of two thousand and eighteen where he did look pretty good, you know, for a while, for five years. And so he's an X factor. He's always been an

X factor. Um, But I also don't think he's gonna have to be that Cam, you know what I mean, Like, if the defense is good and the running games good and Belichick kind of can hide weaknesses and play to strength, It's like you can win games, just like I thought they could win games with Jared Stidham. I you know, I thought they were kind of co favorites maybe like one b uh. You can win games in different kind

of ways, right. I I would trust Jared Stidham in New England ten times more than I would trust Jared Stidham in Jacksonville or somewhere else. And I feel that the issues that you had with Cam Newton's surrounding elements

in Carolina wipe it off the board. I mean, you're literally he's going with the best play caller in the entire league and the best head coach, so well, like what about me, Bro, I think Josh has got to be you know, I wanted more information to ranks, but I think that you'd have to say, Josh McDaniels has proven as much as any human being could proved for that spot to argue for that spot, and I love

the idea of him being paired with Cam. I think you guys are almost I'm surprised that you're almost a little more down on the move than I'm so excited. I'm trying to hear it from Dan's I'm trying to admit that Dan's perspective makes sense that there is so much unknown. As a fan of Cam like I love, of course, and as a fan of the page, of course, I love it because I think the ceiling is outrageous for a guy who is available at this time. I mean,

it's just unprecedented. Even even of the ceiling is outstanding. I mean, it really is like picking up Randy Moss for a fourth or fifth round pick. He doesn't have to play like Randy Moss for the move to make all the sense in the world, you know what I mean. Like it the other side is outrage I have a sneaking suspicion the Patriots are gonna come out looking good in this move. That's just my intuition. Perhaps I'll be rowed they could. Ricky, what if I told you that

you're gonna get of Cam Newton? Uh? Still take that over Jared Stidham or Brian Hoyer. I think you have to. I mean, I have my reservations about him in general, and I'm sure we'll get into that in a little while, but I think at the end of the at the end of the day, yeah, it's just it's Cam Newton and like you don't like a font on his social media. It's like, Okay, I don't know, I think you know, I I am. I was excited. Yes, I think it's it's a good move and it's a little juice that

they were lacking for sure. Definitely, absolutely, So I feel good, all right? Or over the Tom Brady thing now and you're moving forward as a fan? Is that what you're saying. I'm not over the Tom Brady thing, but you know that did that? Did suthe the sting a little bit? So I'd ask you this, Cam Newton is has beating the Patriots twice in two appearances. How many times has Tom Brady felled New England? Zero? So advantage Cam right

out of the gate. What are the odds that you know, it's like you went, you went from far to Roger, you know, far after Rogers and the couple of mbs. What are the odds that you go from Tom Brady to a quarterback that's better looking? Who would have thought that happens? I'm just yeah, I mean to each his own. I mean, that's that's an opinion, but you can you can make the argument. You can make. You can certainly make that argument. There's no job. Cam Newton is a

hot man, but is he hotter than Tom Brady? I don't know. That's that's up for everyone's debate. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, anyway, that feels like a good time to get to. Mike Garafolo last him that as well. Let's welcome Mike on right now. Let's welcome him in. He is the hardest working man at NFL network, or at least in the top seven. Mike Garifolo joins us, Hey, buddy, welcome to the Around the NFL. Just ranking my okay, behind the scenes, Siciliano's in there. I mean, you gotta

give it the rappaport even though you don't want to. Um, you guys, do you guys got this one or what I have? I mean, you can get all our work together and count that's one body of work. Yeah. Mike Garifolo is also that he's doing the Pat Summer All thing now, where he's both host and analyst at once, which puts him in kind of rarefied air. So it's great to have. Yeah, listen, the more you can do, um, you know, it makes him harder. It makes it harder for them to to to get rid of you. If

you get you know, your hands in and everything. Um. So it's but it's been fun. It's I noticed he didn't put like James Palmer on your list late you guys, you guess James Palmer. Did anybody work harder down the stretch last year? James, I wouldn't. I wouldn't use an example if it were trying. I've been trying the less you can do method and it's um the results are there. I love you, James Palmer. I know you're watching. Let's get into it. Mike Gara follow because you are as

plugged in as anybody. When this news goes down on Sunday? Was that something that was bubbling and we haven't even gotten to the Patriots caught in another scandal and get punished for it? Uh storyline to this sixteen minutes apart the two news stories. But was this cam Newton to the Patriots thing something floating around behind the scenes or didn't kind of drop out of nowhere? I mean it

was always kind of there. Um, But the timing of it was I would say one that not a lot of folks would have expected right around now, But um, you know it, a lot of this stuff is happening now that the virtual off season is over, because it's kind of been an awkward thing for a lot of people not realizing whether or not we're gonna have the O, T, A s and mini camps. And now that we're clear

through that, it's like, Okay, everybody knows. You know, either we're reporting the training camp on time or this thing is gonna continue to get kicked down the road a little bit. But uh, now you at least had your clear direction about whether we're having a spring or not.

So um, that's where it was for Cam Newton, whose other option, only other option, and this I've been mentioning, would have been to wait to see if a quarterback got injured and then be the uh the Sam Bradford for the Vikings, I'll via signing, not via trade, but but sametime trade. Don't forget but that that would have been the situation where you know, it would have been a little bit desperate, or a team would have been desperate and all of a sudden, maybe you get the

number that you wanted to get. So it was either signed now for the Patriots pretty much walk in the starter as long as you're healthy, um, or you know, go the other route and and and sit there and wait and maybe somebody gets hurt at some point. Do you have any info on like what you think you might see in terms of the contract, because there hasn't

really been details out there. I know Ian said up to seven point five, but I'm just curious because they you know, part of the reason I, you know, I didn't expect him was it was gonna take him being a minimum salary player for the Patriots to get him, unless they made some crazy move like trade Joe Tooney because they you know, supposedly they only had about a million dollars in cap space entering this weekend. Yeah, and

that's where the guarantee is going to be right around there. Um, and everything else on top of that is going to be starts. Uh, you know, performance wins. We have to see the breakdown. I haven't quite seen it yet, in in part because a lot of times these things don't get filed and sent in until they're officially signed, and we're not there. With Cam, he still got to take the physical um and and that was my question really was how did the Patriots make this move not knowing

what to expect um from the physical standpoint. And my understanding is, you know they've gotten a read on it from afar Um. They still have to take their closed look and until that happens, they won't be announcing anything. But they are confident that they've got themselves. The Cam Newton from Okay because because and I've been saying this on the air today, I don't know that we're ever

gonna see Cam ever again. But if you see teen Cam, this is a team that feels like now they could put themselves back in the championship conversation because he was playing, and that's obviously early before the wheels came off. It certainly sounds like Belichick's uh, you know, interviews with various people around the league, like Norv Turner had an influence on this too, on Cam Newton, the person, Cam Newton, the game prepare the whole eight to c But you know, Greg,

you mentioned the the cap room. Here are there other dominoes to fall, Mike, where like you know, you brought in Cam, Um, they maybe still want to add some pieces, or have you heard anything about the Patriots making other moves that might draw headlines in the next couple of weeks. Not to this point because some you know, listen, the bigger the two big ones of the guys that have already been there, which is Josh Gordon and Antonio Brown.

And from what I gather, there are other teams involved right now that would make at least for Antonio Brown, if they're confident in the off the field stuff, would probably make it more worth his while monetarily. So UM, I would be surprised at this point if that winds up being the case. But there, listen, there there'll be um that's via the free agent market. There will be opportunities to make trades for guys as it goes along,

and Belichick has never been shy about doing that. So I wouldn't be surprised if, uh, if that might be an option for them. But we've got to get back to work. I mean, like so much stuff that's on hold until we get back to work. Let's tackett no on what you just said about Antonio Brown, just because I'm curious, what what you think that there's teams out there that are gonna pay Antonio Brown decent money if

he gets back into the league. Yeah, I do, because I know they're gonna have to, um, because this is a guy that's still and and listen, you think he's gonna be back. Basically, let's let's just do a hypothetical. Let's say the NFL has to spend them eight games. You think this guy, you think he's getting back into

the NFL. I don't know that they're gonna suspend them eight games because and I know you're just throwing out a number, I get four whatever, right, But the tone in what Roger Goodell was saying about Antonio Brown when asked about him at the Super Bowl, I keep going back to that. It was not a punitive tone. It was a um, what's the word I'm looking for? It was all about really helping Antonio Brown as the person if he's willing to help himself. Basically rehabilitation. Yeah, rehabilitation,

I guess is the word. I don't. I don't love using that word because you know it's tied to other things that Alden Smith was dealing with. And if you notice in the letter to Alden Smith um when he was reinstated, it was all about how the program can work for him, UM, and how he's shown that he wants to stay committed to it, and how he could be an example for other guys. Um. That was something

that they communicated to him. So now it's all about, as see here, less about this UH program, this drug program and this other UH programs UH as a penalty for players, and more about something that can help them be better players and better people. I mean, I know it sounds corny. I'm just I just the tone what I remember hearing that answer and saying whoa, That was not what I really expected and it was more of

a forgiving tone to Roger Goodell. And and the other thing too, is these allegations against Antonio Brown, they have to be proven. You need a little bit more of he said, she said uh in in these cases. Richard Sherman had very strong words about the Cam Newton deal. He called it quote disgusting, which is obviously very strong language. Um, is that is that something thing? Are you surprised that someone that's been covering this league for so long how

this is played out with Newton? And of course as long as you've been covering the league, you never had COVID nineteen to deal. So maybe it's just one of those timing situations. But there's also the questions of this contract, and I guess we're gonna get more details as they go along. But did Cam get anything else out of this, like maybe protection from being franchised if he ends up having a big season? What have you heard anything about

the contract? And your thoughts about Richard Sherman's comments. Now, the Patriots have agreed to that before, so if he did get that, that wouldn't surprise me. We'll see once everything comes in. But um, it's it's I understand what Richard is saying, um, and I agree. I agree with it to a certain extent. Um. But I would say that the reason that teams didn't make this because because early on, let's go back early on a free agency, Cam Newton had a certain number in his head for

what he was going to get. The problem is you need, uh what ballpark do you think I mean it was. I'm sure it was in the twenty I mean that's what you know. Everybody knows. Top starter money right now is in the thirties, the low thirties, So I would say it would be in the twenties and you look at some of the guys making money in the twenties. I'm sure he's sitting there saying I'm way better than these guys. UM, So I don't blame him for for

for winning that. Now. It all comes down to situation and circumstance too, because uh, even Nick Foles, that's the one that people have kind of been holding up against, saying, Okay, well, why didn't the Bears bringing Cam Newton instead of Nick Foles. Nick Foles had to rework his contract. Okay, he had a big number left in the deal and they had to work it a way to spread it out so that it's it's not a huge number over the next

three years. Um. And the other thing is they still have a guy in Chicago that they want to win the starting job. Make no mistake, the Bears would love Mitch Drobisky to win that job to continue as a quarterback because that's a guy that they've invested so much in and they want to be right in the end.

They want to be right about Mitch Drabinsky. Whereas in this case with New England, it was an opportunity that presented itself because they really didn't rushed to go out and trade for Andy Dalton or signed Dalton once he became free, or plug somebody in. They they took their, uh, the more patient approach. Now I did ask this, I said, how how quickly did this thing come together with the Patriots? And I'm told that it came together really quickly, asterisk

on that nobody knows how long. Belichick himself was kind

of monitoring this by himself. So all along we've been talking about, Yeah, they seem like they're kind of we can't rule it out, you know they but but they're not making a strong push for Cam Newton is because Belichick was kind of monitoring it the whole time and probably waiting to the point where Newton said, you know what, I'll take this deal because you know what, I can come in and I could play for the best coach in the league and re established myself, show everybody I'm

healthy and now I can hit a big number next offseason. I mean, there was a note out there from Adam Schefter that the Browns those words here. I mean, if if Ian was on the show right now, he would

have just blast you into space. But even with Mike, it can be well, another news man out there offered this up that the Browns had looked into Cam Newton, which the timing, you know it needs to be unpacked, would have happened after they signed case Keenum if you go by the time when the Panthers said goodbye to Cam Newton, which I find to be an interesting wrinkle

now I was. I was also told at some point by Andrew Berry, uh because I was asking about something and had a conversation with him at some point and he said, you don't like where I'm in on everything? And he worked with Howie Roseman, who is in on everything. You ever noticed how many times the Eagles are linked to a player because they're in on everything, because you just never know what you're gonna come up with if you investigate. So I believe it was more along those

lines and Berry being new on the job. There there's like many other teams tree, but the buglets is from the Eagles tree. That's why I picked up the phone and the Cowboys called, come on, Jamal, And that's a smart teams do I think I think they wouldn't It wouldn't have been. It might have been smart for the Jets to be in on Cam Newton. That's the type of team where I mean it where it's like you're being a little afraid of making a good move. I mean, you have a plan, you want to work your Chicago.

You want this plan that is not working. According to our eyesight, it must work, and so you don't go out and get the better quarterback. I think that's why two thirds of the league are not competitive with New England, and I think it's important. Yeah, I just want to say to Greg's point, the Jets love Sam Donald. Greg, you don't. You don't seem to like him so much him.

You have to understand that. My point is having right, But they have to at least maybe they don't, but they have to live in a world where there's other, you know options A Donald can get hurt, but be like, what do we do if we're six games into the season and it's going terribly Like have other routes to maybe possibly and just be open to, you know, open to like would he come in for two millions? But no, I can get why Joe Douglas would not be confident

in Adam Gates to handle that situation. Since then that's sort of That's what I mean. You have to play afraid when you're not confident in your own building. I would I would just go back to what Richard Chairman was upset about and what other folks might be saying about. Well, how did the Patriots let this happen? Could you imagine? I mean, gole, let's stick with the Jets. Let's stick with the Jets. Go back to Tim Tebow coming in behind Mark Sanchez. If you don't think that was a

net negative effect on Sanchez? Really like this circus exactly? Well? And what was the line? One one time Sanchez let his guard down. It was like on a Friday, and that it got a little bit of attention. He said, um, oh, selling seats. Somebody asked him about Tebow and he's like selling seats, man like basically saying it was it was a promotional thing. And you could see the frustration on his face when he said that, and it was just a little peek into of course, he didn't want this

side show with him out. But they both weren't that great at playing quarterback, and that would have been true no matter what. And so you just need to find a quarterback that that is good at playing quarterback and have have options and not not be afraid maybe it didn't make sense for for this Jets team in particular, but I just mean in general, like, why be afraid of winning different types of ways having other plans if

you're a plan is not working. And listen, Uh, Belichick is not afraid in ways that other coaches are afraid, right, So, and and they could still I mean, this is a low guarantee contract. Theoretically, Jared Stidham could still beat out Cam Newton Cam Newton for this starting job. But as I described it on the air earlier, my belief, based on the conversations that I have had, uh since this

thing went down, is it's Cam versus Cam. If Cam comes in and is healthy and shows that he can play good football again, it's it's Cam in a runaway. There's no question about that. Despite the fact that now you're gonna have to tweak your offense, okay, and you're gonna have to do it in a year where you didn't have a spring and you're gonna have maybe not maybe you're definitely gonna have some kind of abbreviated training

camp and maybe uh two to no preseason games. So this is a team that's not afraid to do that

because they've done it for twenty years now. Granted they did it with Brady at quarterback, but the point is they trusted the guys around Brady to be able to make those adjustments, and not only year to year, week to week and quarter to quarter, drive to drive, be able to make these adjustments if something's not working, scraped the game plan and let's go back to some of the stuff that maybe we haven't done since training camp.

That's why the timing thing is is crucial because they now have this month to to get that offense ready, and of course they're going to be planning like an offense into Richard Sermon's initial point. I think we've talked about this. Kim has had a lot of bad luck. I think in his career. He certainly has with the injuries the last couple of years. This offseason was bad

luck to be any quarterback looking for a job. I mean Andy Dalton getting If you had told me at the beginning of the officin Andy Dalton was gonna sign for two or three million, I would have been shocked

by that. Now, Cam, I think is another level. But if you look back four or five off seasons ago, there's a lot of off seasons where Sam Bradford coming off an injuries the bell of the ball at quarterback and there's seven teams looking or Kevin Cobbs the bell of the ball and teams are gonna give up picks for a brock Oswilder's gonna get them with like three teams going after, whereas this year there was only like there's almost no teams looking for quarterbacks and they're actually

where decent players available. I think it was all combined to to hurt Cam. You gotta mention Mike Glennon there too. That's actually the best example. I blew it, Mike. What are you doing? Um? Fourth of July and Jersey in a very strange year. Uh, well, we're gonna be down the shore, but I'm trying to think we're gonna have a I'll keep it to the bare minimum facts. We are going to have a baby review. Um, which I'm sorry, thank you, I'm sorry I didn't allow you guys to

break that one again. Awesome the first time around, you guys had our corner. We got about that. I gotta I gotta spread it out. I got a lot of mouse to feed, So we're gonna do a baby reveal over the weekend. We're just trying to figure out where and how is there gonna be like a like a like a gun involved, you know, where like steamers come out of the gun, not a real gun, but like people get pretty crazy with this stuff. Now. Uh, we're working on it. We're working on it. Did we lose

Did we lose that? What's happening? He is he is returning? Are you you're only an audio program, Mike. Just roll with the punches here, Mike, you're not one of the people. You know, this is happening on both coastlines um that have just been setting off fireworks every night since like May eight. Are you just that something that I could pin on you? Or is that not not accurate? No, No, that's not okay. I'm just trying to figure out who's

doing it. We've kind of guilty with this. We've we've we've had it and I had a couple of things rattling around my head right now. That's fine, and neither one of them do I actually want to say? So I'm just gonna plead the fifth on this one to text you offline. How about that? Okay? Mike Gara, Folo, thank you? So much for joining us. Congratulations on another child, by the way, we well, thank you, thank you very much. But I like to preach accountability. I gotta follow my sword.

I've been itching to get back on here with you guys, because I think I left you the last time with Gregg asking me. We were in Indianapolis, and he said, is Philip Rivers gonna wind up the quarterback of the Colts? And I got too cute because I knew that they had already had talks with the Jaguars about Nick Folks. So I said to you, I don't think so. I think it might be another veteran quarterback. And I didn't lead on about who it might be, and they did.

In the end it was Rivers falls, Rivers fault, and they decided let's just go with Rivers and not go up any draft pick compensation. But that's been eating at me because it was right there I had to do and say, yes. Nobody would remember, but I bet you more people remember that I said no, So none of us, none of us would have remembered what your first answer was. But that is why year a pro that's why you've gotten to where you are. Things like that keep you

up at night. Thank you for clearing that up, Mike, and enjoy the time with the family and we love having you with us. Alright, Pwice, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Happy for thanks Mike. Bye bye. See there he goes Mike Gara, Folo, gender reveal. I just missed that. I think that really got big right after Well, yeah, you know, I mean it doesn't mean everyone has to or well I can. I would never do that. She just would not be into it. Yeah, they did it

on our show. Yeah they did. Remember they poured the wine and it was blue. I don't think you know, Lakeisha was very organized on the pregnancy front. I don't think you were getting through that process without a gender reveal. And that was a big moment. Gender reveals were invented for Lakisha Jackson Westling to have a child. Basically, Um, all right, let us get to some winners losers. Wrap up this Cam Newton conversation with some winners and losers.

I'll start that. I'll start it out. Maybe we'll share one or two each a winner. The Bill Belichick is playing chess while the world is playing checkers. Mob, I mean, everybody was wow. The Pats have done it again. Well, it's kind of like that's the same thing with the Patriots drafting Tom Brady with the overall pick. Sometimes it's just things work out in your favor, and the and the and I don't think the Patriots. The Patriots were smart.

They would have they would have gotten this guy a long time ago and not risked waiting all this time, because they really would have been a very good chance. Let's face it, unless you really think Jarge Stidham is going to develop into a player, there was a real chance that Pats are gonna be caught with their pants down this season. They wouldn't have got him for one

million dollars, which they had. I mean, well, if you're saying that, like, if this is a quarterback position, the most important important position on the field, if they really knew thought they needed Cam Newton, wouldn't they have found a way that they didn't think they need Cam Newton. I think to me, that's that's my takeaway a lot with Patriots me. And that's why, like I'm making the case for the Bronchers. Just the point isn't that you need Cam Newton. The point is, let's just try to

get better. Um, oh, you know your way off that You're right, he would They were ready to go into the season with Stidham. They still they still would be because they were prepared obviously for any team if they had wanted to to sign Cam Newton at any point. But at this point it's like you stopped looking, you know, you stop ignoring value at the at the behest of like whatever they were planning. It's it's such a different

situation though. I mean to say that the Patriots situation, and you can compare the Patriots and the Jets, you can't because the Patriots had a clear need at starting quarterback, uh and the page and the Jets, and I think Mike was getting to that point as well. If if their guy is Sam Donald and they bring into a star like Cam Newton in there, that creates not just

makes a roster better, but at what cost? And that that's why I think the Patriots it was a slam dunck move for them because it makes them better and it doesn't have any of that negative stuff that would have come with you do you signed with the Jets

of the Steelers or whoever else. But the only thing, I mean, your your initial point was that everyone suggesting that Belichick plays chess while everyone else is learning how to play checkers still, but he is, and he has been for a long I mean, are you actually saying that that's not what building I'm saying. I'm saying this was a no brainer for the Patriots. They should have

done they though I don't think they had. I do think that there's something to what Greg is saying about the fact that like it wasn't like there was a stress um in a in an element of panic to adding Cam Newton to the roster. I think they waited until the price was right. Um there a cap strap team and no other team acted, so it became more

and more of reality. I don't think it was a master plan to do that either, but the timing now fits, and I think three months ago people did not know where we were with Cam Newton's health even more than today. There was information gathering. I don't know how much more we know now than we did three months ago about how well we've seen him working. There's you know, and what was built. Bill Belichick knows more than the media does if he's talking to people around Cam Newton. But yeah,

I don't know. I just think it's a little it's underheaded to have the viewpoint that only Bill Belichick saw that Cam Newton could make his team better when there were a lot of different factors that came into play that allowed this to play out this way. But that's just mine. How about who's got another one? Well, I would give you a loser. And it's similar to what you're talking about a little bit, Dan, that we're about a month away probably from a devastating quarterback injury to occur.

And I think that a lot of the league, and you know, we would be great to find out where people were on Cam Newton, how close any teams really got to signing him. But it seemed to be that Cam Newton got slotted into the someone just going to sign them, making their starter when you know, quarterback a goes down because all these teams didn't want to deal with Cam Newton the backup create and all the business

we've talked about, the drama. I mean, that kind of planning is now out the window because I really actually completely agree with Greg's take that Can Newton being added to the right side of team just makes that quarterbook back room looks so much better and all these teams with if he's situations avoided it and now he is gone, He's gone to the team that he's going to thrive with. Most so I all these other teams the past, I think are going to be a talking point all season long.

And I'd start with the Panthers because I like Matt Rule a ton, but I think that there was an element of if you really want a fresh start in Carolina, does it make sense to start over with like the Patriots. Matt Rule is the leader of that team, not Cam Newton. And the split, which was very messy, happened very quickly. It was tough. It would have been tough there. But but I I also think he would fit into that

Matt Rule system. I'll throw some winners. How about NFL fans who were you know seeing the Patriots in prime time four or five times? Because that was a bit of a risk here, and so if you if you have a cam in prime time, Um, that's a lot more exciting. How about a winner Jewel Julian Edelman, Um, Oh yeah, I don't know necessarily, like, hey, he's gonna get more balls with with Cam Newton or not. But I do think the Patriots are seen, and this is where I'm being a homer. I don't think the receivers

are as disastrous as kind of it's been painted. Now. If most of new looks like he did last year when he played through a high ankle spraying the second he got there, that could be part of it. And if Nakil Harry is a total bust, which feels like it's on the table because it was a disconcer disconcerting first year out of a first round pick, like I get it. But Edelman s new Harry a couple of

rookie tight ends. I don't know. I've seen, I've seen worst wide receiver groups, and I do think Edelman fits pretty well with Cam Newton, who throws well up the seams. I would take issue with the primetime thing a little bit because I think that there was there would have been an audience, a national audience script by the idea of Jared Stidham rolled out there and we want to watch it burn, right, So if they're just gonna be a playoff team with Cam Newton, but it's just fascinating,

isn't it. Even if you're a relatively and I think a lot of Cam Newton fans who hate the Patriot. There's a lot of people who just like watching Cam Newton play football, including me, who aren't Patriots fans. They're just kind of like, all right, this will be fun. You know, let's watch this. If we got a Stidham Hoyer poopoo platter and neither guy could play, Uh that that kind of enjoyment of watching the Patriots fall flat would probably wear off by the time they were two

and five and they had five playoffs. They have five prime time games scheduled right now your house. I think you would enjoy that wire to wire. I don't think you'd be bored. I probably would, but yeah I would. I would probably enjoy it all season long. But also like every feels that way too after the last few years. I mean they're early schedule two is tough. I mean they're they're toughest games, you know with the Chiefs, and some of them are all early in the season. A

big winner is the shamelessness meter for the Patriots. It busted past the ten meter and it's all the way

up to twelve. Now. It's just it bursted with it burst with the announcement sixteen minutes apart, Ladies and gentlemen, sixteen minutes apart the announcement of the Cam Newton Newton signing, sixteen minutes before the Adam Schefter report that the Patriots were fined one point one million dollars and we'll lose their third round pick for filming the Bengals sideline in connection to one of their team produced shows playing the game. That is, I mean it is. Listen, I'm not even

the publications it is. I'm not even mad. But this organization they just they and you gotta you gotta give give it to them. And I will say, just like because somebody's got to say it. It's just the latest in what's been a major part of this what this legacy is for this organization. I'm sorry. You could have the greatest code and the greatest quarterback and all the rings, but this is now, by my account, the fourth major scandal connected to this team, and then a myriad of

smaller ones. But you had a spy Gate No. Seven, you had the a f C Championship game to flake Gate in fourteen. This videotape scandal is not nearly at that same level. But again they got busted for it, and it's a substantial fine, and the draft pick that has a lot of value in patriot Land. I'm not even gonna get into walk through gate in two thousand two before the first Super Bowl, but it's part of their story and it should not be ignored. I know

that everyone acts like this latest thing was. I think there's a fair amount of exhaustion when when you hear a news story about the Patriots you're doing something with a video camera anywhere, You're just like, al right, But I mean to me, if the league decided that the penalty for what they um before the wrong was a third round pick in one million dollars, what today? What are they claiming behind this behind closed doors happened here?

Is it not similar suspects suspicious behavior that looks like other Patriots taping issues, because if it is, shouldn't the penalty have been wholly different than this. I don't understand where they here's the investigation. We've come up with the idea that they've done this and it's only worth a third round pick, and you know, like eight pennies out of Robert Kraft's pocket. Uh, I need to know more.

I I think part of it that, at least in the reasoning that you heard, you know, back when they were investigating it, is that they're gonna get punished extra for any infraction because they were a repeat offender essentially in doing this. So maybe if it was a team that had never done it before, it would have been I don't know, it's just nothing or this is Yeah. I saw the third round pick and I as a I'm I was surprised. I'm surprised more isn't being made

of it in the cam news. Is certainly reason? Is there certainly a reason why? Because the third round pick is significant. You know, um, this was kind of brushed off pretty quickly, and if you look into what was happening, you know, no one has a hard take of like what it really meant. But a third round pick is a big loss. No one's given away third round picks just for fun. I mean, that's that's like, that's those

are very valuable picks. And anyone who's followed the NFL that has a pulse knows that part of the reason the Patriots have stayed great all these years is because they make the most of those mid round picks many times. Yeah, the Just for the record, the spy gates scandaled Bellichick got fan find half a million. The Patriots got found tifty thousand dollars, and they lost their first round pick

in the two thousand eight draft to flate gate. It was a million dollars for the team, and they gave up their first and fourth round picks in seventeen respectively. And now this year it is I guess the highest finally faced. And maybe it's just a pattern, maybe it's basic inflation or just a pattern of escalating behavior. But one point one million and the forfeiture of the third round pick, Ricky, this is the team you root for. Immediately afterwards, they fell apart in their offense? Was there?

So maybe it was that was bad juju? How do you sleep? I'm wondering, I've wondered that. No, it's it's upsetting, it's it's not a good look for sure, Ricky, do you want to I know you had another thought of Kim, might as well share it. Now that's something that's giving you pause here. I just I just feel like the way that he, you know, reacted to that um female reporter saying it's funny. How to hear a female talk about routes? To me? Is it's bugged? Me since the

day it happened. And to stand behind someone where, especially if you're coming to play for a for a new England team, where that fan base you say all you want, but like we give everything to our team, like it's such a homer place and like for me, it's like you expect half of just females in general in the Boston area to stand behind you and be like, oh cool, like this is I don't know, it's just it's really what we want to play for people that might have

forgotten what Camp sling a couple years ago. I don't know. You take a lot of pride in seeing your receivers playing well. Devin Funches just seemed to really embrace the physicality of his routes and and making getting those extra yards because that give you a little bit of an enjoyment to see him kind of trust speaking people out. It's funny to hear female talk about routes like it's funny. But yeah, not not Camp's finest moment. But you come on it. Maybe you just had a maybe had a

bad day. You're gonna give him a pass on that or is that it for him? Yeah? I mean I'm not it's not all of a sudden, like, oh, canceled culture is so stupid, blah blah blah. But it's like if you're on a podium where you know, like you're blatantly have that much disrespect to embarrass someone who asked a very legitimate, great question. Um, it's not that's not him, you know, locker room talk and he said that like he was on a stage with cameras everywhere, and he

literally decided to do that. So to me, it's it's of course, you know, it could have just been a bad day, but I it's not cool. No, it's it was if I can I'm trying to think. But like I've almost never had a problem with stuff Kim's done off the field, and that was a low That was like a low moment for him. That was a very low moment for him. I mean, but the fan base is gonna be into him if he plays well and

not if he doesn't. Mean Tom Brady wants you know, I was trying to sell that water could help you with concussions and stuff. It's like it's like people can say some crazy stuff. I'm more interested. It's like the Patriots having had a black quarterback in my lifetime that was like a starter, which is interesting, you know, to me, it's different and it's it's it's definitely different in that region,

and I think it'll be exciting. And and a quarterback who's you know, his personality, He's got a big personality and winning, winning is gonna he's gonna make that all go fine. And if they're not winning and he's playing, then then it'll be you know, fascinating to watch. That's a big part of it is what will his personality be in New England will be tempered at all? Because I don't think the sorry, sorry, right, I don't think that. I don't freewheeling press conferences are probably in the past.

Um uh to your pleasure, Erika too. I wonder about that. I had that on my loser's list. Um, Cam's fledgling new hieroglyphics language. Um. I wonder if this is a one year contract. And Cam is a guy who's whose career and the way he's played, he plays with a lot of passion. He's a very colorful guy. Um. He is almost exactly the the opposite of what the quote

unquote Patriots Way players should be like. And I know they've brought in big personalities in the past, but also we've we've heard from prominent players before that's that went to New England and said I didn't like it there. There is also a scenario where Cam plays well and decides maybe at this place isn't for me, and I'm gonna take this leverage of getting my career back on

track and I'm gonna go sign elsewhere. So there's there's there is a bit of assumption here that not only was this a perfect signing for the Pats, but he's gonna be healthy and be a star and he's gonna be their quarterback for another seven years. Like that, I think you wouldn't look past this season, but it is

a perfect springboard potentially for Cam Newton. No, I think that's a good point that even if he plays well Dan, that he might not be the long term quarterback because he's gonna have options and he's not gonna um necessarily be that cheap. The thing I would say, in terms of the Patriot Way that was like they've had a million colorful characters and Mike talked about him talking to

North Turner and stuff. It's like, if they want guys that are ultra competitive and like love football to their core. And I don't think anyone's ever questioned that with Cam Newton. And it's different. It's different when your quarterback is is out there and is a little different. But it's like, I don't think anyone's you know, they shouldn't have questioned that with Cam Newton, and I think that's why they

feel like it's a good fit. While we're talking quarterbacks, should should have fallen on that ball in Super Bowl fifty. But yeah, otherwise I do you're saying I lose her here, um, you know those of us on Stidham Corner here back. But for me, I love Cam Newton far more than I've ever loved being on Stidham corner. And I do think to your point about Cam Newton that it might be, um, you know, one year thing. It's like a there's a there's a decent chance you'll see Stidham this year anyways,

possibly for a lot of the year. I mean, we just don't know. Um, with Cam Newton's health and then and then being like he's a second year, fourth round pick, it's very possible that he's in the mix like at a later date. There's just not much reason to believe, as Mike said, as anything logical. It said that when we're reading these quarterback battles in August, and we will, it's like, there will be no reason to think that

a healthy Kim Newton is not their starter. It's like, how is Jared Stidham gonna be a better player than Kim Newton right now? Come on? But all the reporting also talks about how they to your point, they've not given up on Jared Stidham, and I think it's actually just a better situation to find out who Jaron Stidham is um in another year to develop. He's not a first round guy. I don't think he didn't draft him

to think he's the heir apparent to Tom Brady. I have one more loser, And Greg, you alluded to it that the Bills a f C East favorite status. Actually saw tweet right before the show started. I don't know if it's a Vegas wide, Desert wide thing, but the Patriots are now slight favorites in the ANFC East after the Cam Newton signing, which maybe is the best thing could happen to the Bills, who now probably don't have to worry about falling into that trap of expectations being

so high. It's not easy to be the favorite, especially if you don't have any experience with it. Um and now the Patriots, I think there will be a lot of people, especially if Cam looks good. Uh if and when there's a training camp, the Bills get to kind of go back to that. You know, we're hunting for the division child rather than people, and it was wrong to do it in the first place, but you kind of were getting the feeling of people are handing in

that title. So um, yes, the favorite status is over, but that might actually be a good thing for the Bills. I think it is a good thing. Also, there is definitely a like a hipster movement um afoot also where it's like, I don't really care what New England did, Buffalo is still running away with this division head entails nothing like Colleen likes the Bills. It is. It's at least it makes it makes ANFCS more you know interesting, just at quarterback. It's so much more, um interesting than

it was a few years ago. I'm not down on Donald because he throws. He's the guy the type of guy usually fall for that he makes three throws every play every game that like almost no one could make. To me, he's just a total wild card where the ceiling is so high and the floor, you know, might be fairly low still, and then you have to and then you have Josh Allen who makes people crazy. But to me, in the best case scenario, he's a poor man's Cam Newton. And then you actually have Cam Newton. Right,

that's nice, Fitzpatrick. Don't forget about our favorite We got fits magic in the mix. Yeah, the Patriots. Don't need to see the Patriots win another division for the rest of my life, but I do as a football fan, I kind of I'm into the Cam Newton in the division thing. It's kind of it's a fun storyline. The Patriots were, they were shaping up as a brutally boring team,

and now there's some juice in the building. All right, all right, anybody got another one or you want to you want to move on here, Let's move on all right? Before we say goodbye, because again we are going away for a week. Uh so, why don't we do a little eight o'clock lightning, Ricky just to eight o'clock to light excuse me, just to hit any other news and then we'll say goodbye. Mark Davis is unhappy with the decision to sell ads, not seats the fans in his

fancy new stadium. I mean, this is just the beginning. If Mark Davis is coming after the league because he thinks like society should be more open, you might see some political back and forth among the owners. You like that A little raiders all there, Matt Rule says to everybody, and maybe me, Teddy will go deep more six point two? Why not? You've got Robbie Anderson. Matt Rule knows Robby Anderson. Well, I think that I think this is a a little bit has to do with Rule when he came on

our show too and had to answer Teddy questions. Everywhere he goes, it's Teddy questions and typically questions doubting Teddy. So he's telling you stick it. We're gonna throw the ball where Teddy Bridge orders averaged six point two intended air yards for attempt last season. In other news, Zekiel Elliott still hasn't worked out two weeks after getting the COVID nineteen virus. Greg this is the whole thing with

Corona that I think people are under selling. What are the long term impacts gonna be for these players for the thirty seven Clemson guys. Also, the Hall of Fame game and ceremony were canceled. July still the date for training camp. We'll see, Mark, We'll see, we'll see. All right, what are you guys gonna do this week? Anything? I'm still in Texas of course. Um, I'm gonna enjoy it here at the lake Kevin Danger hands Us. My brother is coming into town actually, and he's gonna stay with

us in seclusion here at the Lake House. Uh. And I'm looking forward to it. That should have a similar Cam Newton in New England effect. He tends to spice things up when he arrives. I could see some controversial press conferences, Hairstyles. It all is on the table for Danger.

Kevin Danger hands Is and my brother in law, Tanner Um are still the only people in the history of the Super Bowl and the Super Bowls we've covered at the Around the NFL podcast where we we go into the stadiums Ricky as well, and we on game day for the Super Bowl, we get there about three hours four hours before kickoff and we're in that building, what three or four hours after the Lombardi trophy is handed

over too. When we when we leave, we're sometimes um close to the last people out of the Super Bowl stadium. And to this to this day, only Kevin and Tanner were the only Super Bowl Family guests that were still awake when we got back to the hotel at three odd am in the morning at TJ. Friday's, hammering down drinks, talking to girls getting in trouble. I think they actually convinced um T G. I. Friday's to stay open later because they're like, there is people, there are people coming back.

This place is going to be rocking, and uh, you know we closed the place very early in the morning. Anyway, your plans guys for this week and lady my plan. I really have no plans. It's like other weeks. But but last podcasts they do have an update though I don't know Eric if you wanted to share the poll that you put up on your site. She wants, you know, on her Twitter page, she said who's better looking? Settle In argument, Greg says Cam right now over fifty votes,

Cam dominating of the vote. Yeah, it's big, it's a big Uh, it's a big loss for me. I really, you know, hit the table that it was Tom Brady earlier, and you know, maybe like Cam Newton, I can I can change, well I will. Let's just give Brady this. Uh, A lot of people are better looking at thirty one than they are at fort well, plus trusting the American public and an open vote isn't always proven to me

like you're choosing the right guy. So well, there's a lot of we're going to just vote against Brady because they can't stand Brady. But I think the Cam is a fair challenger there. Sorry, I didn't have an answer for what's happening this week. I don't know if marks we're going. We're going to um To Lake Arrowhead is a family for to you go, you gotta be carefully here by there by the way. You're a young lady. And I know what's been happening in l A since

I've been gone. You guys can't stop partying, your millennials, and it's caused a spike in the Los Angeles County region. What are you doing here, Texas fingers? Yeah, I know right, Seriously, I rented a house up in Joshua Tree National Park, so I'm gonna go up there for a little bit and get out of the city and see some stars. Very good. I I call no land home anymore. Mark.

I don't not Texas, not California, not New York. I just I'm a wander at this stage of my life, and I think that's the best way to do it at this point. I hope that got into the newspaper article that we've not heard anything else about. I'm waiting. We're waiting to find out. Let us know. Tease. That's a nice tease for for next week. Come back, come back to find out the starting conclusion to the Gatesville Messenger. All right, good stuff. Dan has a signing off for

Quiet Storm the old Boss Ricky Hollywood. Enjoy the fourth Everybody, do your next week.