Bunkercast VIII: Manny Sanders, Brian Hoyer & Gregg's Son

Monday and Saturday or Thursday or any other day? At this point, the m O is consistent from day to day. We didn't do a podcast on Saturday and Sunday, but we're doing them every day this week into it, quick Books didn't know what they were getting themselves in for. What a bargain we're turning into. Speaking of which, yeah, I think it's time to go back to the table, and I know they're gonna say, well, this is not the time to negotiate. This is the time to negotiate.

You paid for in fact, Ricky Hollywood, how are you doing, by the way, doing well? How are you guys? Well? Do you think that this is something to take up with the Shadowy League figures? Do we need to be given the into it pop five times a week, as we're planning to do again this week. I mean it's a fair question to ask. Yeah crazy, Yeah, for sure, I will get on that right away. Al Right, great, that's important. Um. Yes, we are back with you for

another week. Is the second wave of free agency is in full swing, and we're gonna get you caught up on all the latest news that has occurred since we last We're with you, which was Friday. As we've already noted, we're planning to come to you again every day this week, and uh, maybe the pod will be a little shorter than you're used to, but now that we're going every day, we're just gonna kind of tinker with some things and

you know, explore the space a little bit. And what's a uh in a time where time and space is very confusing, we might as well play around a little bit, right, boys, Absolutely, why not play with it, play with the space. I love having Um. I thank the listeners for all the feedback, and uh, it's a you know, it's been great to have some function in the world, Like it's good to have something to do. Ultimately, Uh, this is only an hour a day, like the listeners are saying, It brings

a little normalcy to their lives. It brings a little normalcy to tow mine. Oh yeah, you don't need time on your hands and yourself on your mind. That's the last thing you need. This has been healthy for all of us. I like getting a chance to peer into for instance, Gregg's UM, I believe maybe that's a living room space. I just saw a female, a woman walk walk by in the background, So I wouldn't see that if we were all sitting in a studio. I mean,

you know, you know who it was. I don't know at all, either Ecca or l s my my wife or daughter. Those are the only two women in my house. I don't know that your house goes from three men in a baby. Wow. That reference again for the second time in a month. You didn't see that coming, did you. Um. Also coming up today, in addition to the news, we're also gonna check in Greg. You wrote a banger. Is it live on the site yet it is? Tell us about it. I think it's like a you know what's

just below banger, like a solid banger. It's like, um, one of my officers, it's an opposite field, single and softball. I'm gonna score run. I'm getting on base. Uh, you know, no one needs to call it here best and worst contracts of free agency? Who got some what from the team perspective? Who got some good values? Who maybe made some bad deals? I read it. Let me translate this for you. The article is these are the guys I like, and these are the guys I don't like. No, I

mean that's answered. The same guys you hate got bad contracts and the guys you love got good contract That's not true. You would always say, Um, for instance, I haven't been on kissing cousins corner. I let it with a good contract there. How about that excellent way to sell it west by the way, Thank you. That's that should keep the listeners plugged into the end of the show. All right, boys, I'm happy to hear that everyone's healthy. Erica, you look healthier than ever. I feel like you've been

doing something. Are you exfoliating? What's happening with you? Yeah? You know? Um, not showering every day has actually been pretty nice. So when I do get all, you know what, I don't know. I was gonna just say something like hussied up, But I don't know if that's like if that's allowed, so we'll have to look into that. Um, but yeah, no, going on runs, getting out of the house a little bit, feeling good, and how are the quarantine beards coming along? Gentlemen, Marx looks really nice. I

gotta say, I'll show you a little bit. It's a little look. It's in that sort of, um admittedly creepy stage where I just you know, the people in my own home were wondering where this is going. I can't get a haircut for two months either. That's another deep concern of mine. Greg's is looking decent. You know, you've got your patches like normal, problematic exactly. It's more I'm I'm on Mark's corner too, that the lack of a haircut is going to become a problem sooner than later.

Dan looks hot. Really you think it's okay? It's yeah, I like it. I like it. And West looks like he's about to deliver his baby himself. It's the hermit starter kit, you know what, West, I thought you were joking about that, and then I had a nice conversation with your wife on the phone. It was no hanky panky. Just for the record, West, Um, and uh, she said she had legitimately had you going on YouTube to do some type of cursory research into delivering a baby out

of a you know thing. Well, this is Wayne heavily on her mind. This was the story of our weekend. She's been seeing tweets where a hospital in New York the husband was not allowed in because, uh, there's no room at the end, basically because of a coronavirus. So she's been researching. She's a little worried that there's not gonna be enough room even for the people giving birth, so she's been looking up alternative places to have a baby. Um, we may have what is it called a doulah, Yeah,

we may have one of those. There may be a birth in the bathtub. We've been told by neighbors. Fireman. We saw Lindsay Rhodes over the weekend from six ft away and she told us that her husband has delivered babies. He's a fireman. So nine one one might be our best bet. But got two months right, it's it's um if there's something to be grateful there. If it was if you were like two weeks away, that would be um an even bigger concern than I'm sure it already,

is Jesus. Well, if it was two weeks away, then I would start to worry about it. She's more in the two months, worry not west. You know Ben Leevenberg's wife as a duela and be The children that are born underwater, UM, no, are notably calmer individuals. Um. I can attest that my two children were not born underwater, but it's not a terrible um strategy. You don't keep

them underwater. They're quickly brought out from that, but they're coming from essentially a sack of water inside the mother's body. To to let you know, I hear you. It feels a little to Los Angeles for me personally, but I don't think I'm gonna get much of a vote when it matters. I'm still hung up on the fact that Lindsay Rhodes husband, who by the way, is essentially like a super hot surfer firefighter guy, he's also delivering babies.

That's a good job by Lindsay r Oats. I mean, he's a very lucky man too, but wow, what a combination right there. Hot fireman. Not just what this is actually iced tea, but it does look like whiskey. So I'm drinking it out of a whiskey glass. That's what we would expect you to say. I'm in back. I'm back into because what you gotta do is you gotta

control the drinking in this situation. And um, there is a temptation to just drink every day during this but I have now relaxed into more like a weekend drinking scenario and then keeping it sober during the week. You gotta have set little, um, you know, walls for yourself and barriers during this unforeseen time in our lives. That sounds nice. I don't think a single person viewing this is convinced that nice tea. But continue on with the narrative. It's also it's a good it's a good idea. We're

here Monday afternoon. We'll revisit Friday's show after our fifth grade. See how it's going. Yeah, that's fair. Alright, let's do some newsday. You will find me company the landslide in a paint spen over in the sky a little. That is my boy, the eternally great uh Liam Gallagher, formerly of Oasis, showing people how to wash your hands during the coronavirus pandemic. And you did a fine job, I have to say, and I liked this little message at the end as well that takes me back about twenty

five years. I had not about that. I had no idea that was actually Liam Gallagher. I just thought it was like a like a bad YouTuber doing a bad Liam Gallagher impression. He's been all over it recently. I mean, there are certain people out there that are attacking this everyone inside thing, and I don't want to necessarily put names on it, but some people that I found delightful

on Twitter. I am simply just muting at this point because too much of anyone um is too much, and there are I could easily come up with a list of twenty to thirty people that are going to get deep sixed from my hemisphere very soon. At the at the day, you know, at the risk of shamelessly plugging my other podcast with Throwback Pod, we had our first episode taping over the weekend where we addressed a lot of what's going on in the music pop culture realm

and the Gailga dot laed Um imagine song. Did you guys all that did not go? Yeah? That was a a bomb in the wrong direction. The celebrities are struggling a little bit because they don't know what to do in their giant houses. Uh so I if you want to, if you like cringe comedy, check out Galgha dot And is that how you say good goodo whatever? Leading a parade of celebrities making full of themselves, singing imagine, and

then this other thing that's happening. I enjoyed Liam doing it because I find him to be very, very entertaining. But a lot of celebrities are. They're giving back by showing how they wash their hands, which I feel like it's just like a fancy way to show how nice your kitchen is. Oh yeah, look at me. I'm gonna go to sinc Number eight. You know, warm rushing, warm water, beautiful soaps that cost like eighty dollars a bar. Please.

All right, let's get into the news. Uh. The Saints made a move over the weekend that definitely helps them. They signed Emmanuel Sanders, formerly of the forty Niners, to a two year, sixteen million dollar deal. Um, this is the same Manny Sanders got traded from the Broncos to the Niners and then really had a good impact in San Francisco with Jimmy Garoppolo and company. The end of his season was hampered by an injury, but he's already shown he can come back from injury, made it back

from an achilles uh in his time with Denver. So he's a guy. He's older, he's thirty three, um, but he showed last year he can play. And the Saints Chris Westling, were a team that, despite having the magnificent Michael Thomas, really needed another guy to add to that

wide receiver group. This feels like a really nice pairing. Yeah, I love this signing, and I think we spent most of last year saying we needed somebody besides Michael Thomas to step up in this offense, and Jared Cook ended up doing that in the second half of the season when Alvin Kamaro was injured. So now you've got Camara coming back healthy, Michael Thomas, the best receiver on the planet, Emmanuel Sanders, Jared Cook, uh, You've got Malcolm Jenkins added

to the defense. I feel like with the forty Niners losing DeForest Buckner, losing Emmanuel Sanders by by the time training camps open, whenever that happens to be, the Saints are gonna be people's consensus pick. For the NFC. They're the safest pick I think to make the playoffs in the entire NFL. Maybe with the Chiefs, Like I give Mickey Loomis their general man, sure a lot of credit.

They are always the team going into the off season that people are overly concerned about their salary cap and then they always managed to make it work by moving a lot of money around. And this contract Chris Westling made the best contracts list. I don't like this slander. You gave it right off the top because it's perfect for a team that like is the ultimate win now team. You gotta figure out like Manuel Sanders is a win now receiver. He's not gonna honk a lot if he

doesn't get a lot of targets. He fits in well. He's known as a great team like he's a perfect like role player to add to that team. That's an article for you. Do do your list of win now teams this offseason. So I was gonna say, do your list of guys who honked too much. That's a long list. I mean, that's Thursday's show. We're gonna be needing topics.

Someone should be writing these down. I think that's something nice you see happen in the NFL A little bit is when someone like Sean Payton goes out and faces the forty Niners and in you know, in the game last year that was one of the better games we've seen in years, and it's Emmanuel Standards who torches them for a hundred and fifty seven yards a touchdown receiving and then throws a thirty five yard bomb to Raheem Mostart. It's like, Okay, this guy can do a little bit

of everything. He's also, you know, in a weird, very weird offseason. A veteran has been around so many different offenses that you can just sort of account on him to produce right away no matter what they introduce him to. Alright, moving on, UH quarterback news, The New England Patriots are obviously a fascination of everyone now in the wake of Tom Brady's decision UH to sign with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

and they have to address their quarterback room now. Jared Stidham is a guy that they seem to like, but everyone, or a lot of people seem to think, come on, that's not how this is actually gonna play out, is it. Who else is going to be in that room while they added someone Brian Hoyer, Uh, the veteran quarterback who I feel like it's been with a million teams and now he's been on the Patriots for a third time. So he comes over uh and joins that room, essentially

replaces Brady's roster spot for the time being. Greg you, um, are a man who supports the Patriots on some level. Do you believe there is a a big splash in store for New England, either in the next week or two or in the draft or is this potentially a real situation with Stidham. I mean, the only thing, um, that they're gonna make a splash, and it is the price of my house on Stidham Corner going up. I mean, uh, we've been talking. I've been talking about this on the

podcast for a while. I thought I thought he was a legitimate part of the equation, and this Brian Hoyer sign makes me think it's over. I mean, they are rolling into two thousand and twenty, I think with Hoyer, Stidham and maybe a rookie to be named later. But this was the strongest sign yet that Stidham is gonna be a huge factor and they don't have much cap space, and it wouldn't surprise me if they draft someone to

u it. But Stidham, I think, is a guy they have to believe in, or else they wouldn't be acting how they're acting. And Hoyer to me is like kind of the thing that tells us what they want blamed to me, how the Patriots are not going to be a bad team in two thousand and twenty. I know they have the greatest coach of all time, but the

roster is not impressive, especially on offense. And when we see these teams that go from ten wins down to three or four wins, it's because they don't have a quarterback, and it's because the quarterback play is abysmal. And whatever, Jared Stidham had a great preseason, We've seen tons of guys have great preseasons and then flame out and be nothing. I just this, this offense gives me no confidence whatsoever. Yeah, I just right. They'd had a low wattage roster in

many ways last year. And you know, we could talk about the Vikings all day long for letting people go left and right. And it's not that like stars are leaving New England, but people with key roles from a year ago were all gone, so their drafts suddenly becomes

sue were important and I just part of me. I'm not rooting against the Patriots necessarily, but it would be amazing to see Belichick on a team that simply cannot hang with others and have to deal with that on a week toweek basis because I feel like he's kind of giving a gigantic middle finger to everyone insane. I'm not panicking, I'm not signing stars. I'm letting people go and signing nobody. I mean, you could have had Dalton,

you could have gotten Jamis Winston. Never felt like a Patriots quarterback to me, but there were guys out there and Brian Hoyer does not exactly UM get the season ticket holder rushing to the gate to see eight of those affairs in Foxboro. UM. I certainly said it with a dose of glee because as a fan of an a f C East team that's not the Patriots, this has been a cause for celebration tom Brady leaving. But I kind of mean it that the Patriots aren't special

if you take Tom Brady out of the equation. There now, like so many other teams that are looking for a quarterback, and I think Belichick's greatness as a coach. You know, you're not gonna question that, But is there any scenario where this is a truly contending team I'm talking Super Bowl contending team in the way it's presently constituted. No, And I think it'd be hard for anyone to argue that.

I don't know, do you. I would argue it just because football history has teams that you just don't see coming, and they would have to be a team like that, the two thousand one Patriots led by Tom Brady being one of them. I mean that that was one of them. That was a one in a million thing, you know, right,

I'm not saying there, I'm saying it there is. There'd be less surprising teams to make a run and be relevant than the team that had the number one defense in the NFL last year with most of the key people back on that defense led by you know, a head coach whoes you know, had a history of finding ways to do things even with or without Tom Brady. Doesn't mean they're going to be like a super Bowl team.

But the X factor that we're not, you know, talking about, I was like how good is stid I'm gonna be. We have no idea. They don't really know how he's gonna be in the regular season. But if he is the week one star order, like there is absolutely a chance that he's a capable quarterback or else, I don't think they would have as much faith in him as they do the problem. You know, they just have to have a plan. B Brian Hoyer is making a million dollars on this contract, so he is not getting even

decent backup money. He is getting like I may or may not make the team type of money. Greg, let me ask you one quick thing, like do you I you know I have feeling I know your answer is gonna be. But the Patriots being in essentially cap hell right now, and you can't look at the roster and say there's stars all over the place like with with another another team that might be paying five or six all pros. I mean, do you put any of that at the feat of Belichick where there has been a

number of questionable drafts. Number One, the team cannot go out and really sign anyone right now because of the cap space. And I know that we all talk about Belichick being the greatest GM along with everything else. But they're not exactly in a great place to roll out um a continuity plan post Tom Brady right now. No, they're not, and I think they would have been a different points. I guess I would just push back that they probably like their roster more than everyone else does.

I mean, I think their defense of their defense in terms of you know, moving from the back to the front, their secondary is very much intact. They do have the defensive player of the year, so we say they don't have stars. They have an offensive line where they haven't fade.

He's gonna fade quickly. They have an offensive line pairing where they have a center who has been great for them, who will be returning, one of the best guard combinations in the league, a first round pick at left tackle they love, and one of the better right tackles in the league. So that's like one of the better offensive lines on paper, a deep backfield. I don't think they're like a great team, but I think you could find half the teams in the league with a lot less

just pure talent than the Patriots. Still, I think it's so much positive spin. I think it's time and and the counter to that is I think it's a fair time to question everything, even mark your comment just now that Bill Belichick is a great GM all that was all kind of built on the back of Tom Brady being his quarterback. So I know he's made a lot of shrewd moves throughout his career, but what can he do when he doesn't have the greatest quarterback of all time.

He's also one of the best trade partner. I mean, he has fleeced a billion people with trades and basically taught other teams how to negotiate trades. So I do give him. I don't think he's just it's not been like here's the thing. He didn't have the greatest post or something here, he didn't have the greatest quarterback of all time last year, I stid him is a major question mark and corter in the playoffs, right, could could totally sink their team, right, but it was it would

have been the best season. They won twelve games. As kind of my point, like they won twelve games. We can't have it both ways. That we talked about how bad Tom Brady was last year, I mean it's pretty much was accepted on this podcast that at best he was mediocre and they had an easy schedule and maybe they're more like a ten win team, but they they found a way to win twelve games that that actually happened.

They beat some good teams along the way in that that shows to me there was kind of a backbone that wasn't all based around the quarterback. The problem is, is Stidham gonna be okay if he's really the guy, or is he gonna be a major, major problem, And that's certainly possible. Yeah, I don't think Patriots are gonna stink, but I just whether they're actually a team that matters right now is more what I'm talking about. And you

can't have it both ways either. You can't call them the number one defense when you sat here and said in the last two months of the season that their defense was getting worse every week and are no longer dominant. I don't trust them on defense to be that good again. I think they have it like an It's an asset what they have on defense there. I expect them to be better than average, but you're right, I don't expect them to be nearly that good. Their offense is gonna

have to be better. I don't think any of us have asked this question, Greg, how are you? How you holding up? I mean, in addition to the rest of the world upside down, the Patriots obviously are matching the times that they live in. Even the Red Sox lose Chris Sale to Tommy John surgery, that that one really hurt. In the Rosenthal household, there was like we we we had a hard time getting up that morning. I mean,

what what is how are you good? It's funny some of the listeners and you said I had an unemotion in a response to Brady leaving, and I feel so differently, like gratitude is an emotion and I and I'm not just saying that, Like I feel that more than ever right now, not about the Patriots, But aren't the five Like haven't you guys thought a lot about how lucky we are during this last week or two compared to like all the people out there, many of whom we

know and don't, who are a lot more vulnerable, you know what I mean, Like we have jobs that are paying up. You're kind of taking this in a different direction right now, But I feel that I I was joking around. I feel the same thing about the Patriots, like they could go out in sixteen forever, and I'd be grateful for what they gave. I think that's you do occasionally have a disconnect with the larger Patriots fan base, and I think you just delved into a disconnect right there

with the oh and sixteen forever. I'm not sure you're gonna get too many to sign up for that in New England. I I you're a very optimistic Jets fan, Dan, and I'm I was always kind of the same way. When the Patriots are bad or or the Red Sox are bad, it's the same way. People are like, I don't know the people that have like full time jobs and everything that are winding and I don't know. I

don't know. Okay, well, it sounds like you're doing great the Patriots also part ways was Stephen Gaskowski, So the end of an era at the quarterback and the kicker position he'd been there forever. He's thirty six years old, missed the end of last year with a hip surgery. Seemed to be trending in the wrong direction, UH in general, as he aged, so this is probably pretty easy decision that saves some money for the Pats. So that is another position, UH that has some unrest. Who is their kicker?

Last year at the end of the Folk Hero, I wonder if he's back. They had like eight of them. I really didn't expect a guy on kicker corner to be asking who the Patriots kicker was, Like, you know what, My my mind is a little scattered right now. I have to admit in other former in other former Patriots news, UH, Jeremy Fowler of VSPN reports of the Colts intend to

keep Jacoby Brissette. Jake Briskett, who of course was the starting quarterback last year after Andrew lux surprise retirement, would figure it now to slide into the number two role behind Philip Rivers, who signed the one year, twenty five million dollar deal UH to join the Colts in the short term. So I even read it, and Peter King of NBC wrote that it wasn't even you know, beyond thought, that beyond a reason that Jake Priscott could be the future answer in India. I don't buy that at all.

I don't think there's any going back once you move away from him for a year or however long this last with Philip Rivers, but he makes so much sense to me as their number two. Yeah, when you um asked me too in bed with the cool at the press commerce, I I told you what what was going on with Jacobe? Did they love him as a human being, They just don't want him to be their starting quarterback in and I think they still believe in his development too,

and they are year to year at quarterback. Rivers his one year million when none of that money pushed into the future. I think if he plays the way he did last year in Los Angeles, he's gone, and maybe they go back to Brissette and draft another guy. But it would not surprise me to see Brissette under center next year. I mean, they've also given away their first round picks, so if they wanted to make some sort of splash and get one of these rookies in the

first round, they can't do it. They got the Forest Buckner instead. Right, Brissette was a guy that their contract. I know they love him, but I think if they didn't have their that contract where all of his money almost was guaranteed this year, that they would have gotten rid of him. They wouldn't be paying him sixteen million dollars to be someone's backup. But he's one of those guys that it would have been more costly to get rid of him than it would be to keep him.

And if you're in that scenario, he's not going to be a pain in the locker room. He is a good guy. He is a great backup quarterback at the very least, So why not just uh, why not just keep old Jake around. I'm not buying he's anyone's quarterback of the future. This guy's twenty eight or nine years old.

He's almost as sneaky old as Taysom Hill. Well. I don't know if he's the backup or the quarterback, but they couldn't find themselves in a situation next year where he's their best right and he's been there for three years. That's the thing when they talk about his development. I mean, he's he's been on that team for three seasons now.

It's it's not like he just got there. I would think Jake brisk had becoming their quarterback again would be a last case scenario for them, because they they said it at the end of the regular season that they got a huge sample size of Brissette and he didn't do enough for them. So what would sit him on the bench for a year. Bringing him back make him their answer a quarterback unless it was an absolute necessity where they couldn't find anyone else to play the position. Yep,

it makes sense, all right. More quarterback news. The Panthers trade Kyle Allen to the Redskins. Do we see Kyle Allen in London? Was at the quarterback when they beat the Bucks? Indeed, yes, speaking of London, we were at a somewhat historic game because in that game where the Panthers beat the Bucks, in that scene in St. Peter King Piece I alluded to a few minutes ago, that was the game where the Bucks internally were like, oh no, we can't this winstant thing is not gonna work. When

he threw five picks and had two fumbles. Uh, So we were there, We could say, We could always say we were there. It was an intense melt chop and we were like on the sideline attempting to do sideline reporting in one of the lasting drive it off, but we pulled it off. But I mean to be thirty forty yards away from watching one of the more intense quarterback melts of all time was memorable. There was anyway

Kyle and had a little had his moment. Uh And I think it kind of crested in that game in London where they had I think had won four or five or something along those lines, and then he kind of revealed himself to be not maybe the answer. So Tom Pelliser reported the Panthers trade Alan to the Redskins, uh per a source informed of the situation, the Redskins are sending a fifth round pick back in exchange for Alan.

The trade comes after the Panthers sn XFL star P J Walker, who lit up that league and it's abbreviated first season, So some musical chairs in the backup positions for two squads. It's great news for Dwayne Haskins. You know, we talked about where is Jamis Winston Gonna Land, Where are there some spots you could see for Randy Dalton, like who like where the legit competition come in? We said Washington, And this makes me think they're not going

that route. And Kyle Allen supposedly might get a chance to compete with Dwayne Haskins a little bit or be a guy that's there if Haskins struggles, because Ron Rivera likes him. But give me a break. If they're going to Kyle Allen that is saying good night to the Dwayne Haskins era. I think it's interesting that, you know, if you're Ron Rivera, you're trying. He seems to want to sign every Panthers player he can, and Brandon being up in Buffalo keeps stealing these Panthers players away for

Sean McDermott, and there's this little inner NFC war. I thought it was interesting also to watch to see Lewis Riddick on Twitter said us that p J Walker, who really was pretty awesome um in Houston with the with the XFL. I don't know what you can say. The competition was that he thought he might steal snaps and starts away ultimately from Teddy Bridgewater this year. How I'll wait to see it, but he is an interesting player.

In other news, the New York Giants have added some depth to their backfield by way of Dion Lewis, the twenty nine year old running back who was cut loose by the Titans after this season. It's a one year deal. Say Kwan Barkley obviously the man there, but now Dean

Lewis joins that team. In other news, Nelson Aglare signs a one year contract with the Raiders, right eyes and Aguilar, who had his moments in Philly but really could never win the trust of the fans and apparently of the coaching staff in front office because of his poor pair of hands. Uh. He now gets a fresh start with the Raiders who are still looking to um improve on that wider suit receiver group that just got killed by Antonio Brown going nuts. So that a look for the

Raiders to address that in the draft. Well, I feel like after five years of Nelson aghil Are, the one thing that I feel like I have a good sense of is that he can only be a good receiver when he's playing primarily in the slot. That's when the Super Bowl year, when he had a good year, he was playing the slot. And the Raiders have Greg's boy Hunter Renfro there. I don't like him as the number two receiver playing outside. Mm hmm. They need they need

some more receivers. I mean they have signed to just about everyone possible and in the off season like Mike Mack's getting busy, Eli Apple, Corey little to Nick Nick Koyaikowski, Carl Nasson, Malik Collins, are Witten Mariota like They have signed a little bit of everything, but the one position that was probably the most desperate was receiver, and A isn't really doing a lot for me. Neither nor is Jason Witten at the tight end option. But they have

some pieces there as well. Greg, did Hunter Renfroze rookie season well, not spectacular, but certainly productive from where he's taken in the draft. Did that change how you feel about rookies with suspect hairlines? No, I think that's a red flag. I mean, you're not going to be respected in the locker room. And um my thing with renfro was just throwing the ball to him early in the season was wildly inefficient and h he he played quite well down the stretch. I'm not giving up. I'm not

saying that this guy is gonna be great, though. Let's come down so you're not a lot with your hair these days too. I mean, we've we've had people couched inside our own UH network that we went to a few media summits, and I can think of one individual who suddenly, after years of being I thought bald, showed up with a thick, full head of hair out of nowhere. And Jason Witten is an example right on the raiders

of the creative ways you can handle things. Greg, did you say you're not giving up on giving up on Hunter Redfroll? Yeah, exactly. Finally in the news, ESPN says no thank you to UH, or excuse me, Peyton Manning says no thank you to ESPN, The Post has learned sources. According to Andrew Martin, who is just all over this story for the Post, UH sources say the overriding factor was whether Manning finally wanted to enter the broadcast booth

and commit to the weekly schedule in the fall. The answer remains no. So from where we were a few weeks ago, when it was very exciting the thought of Al Michael's and Peyton Manning being the Monday Night dream team UH and Mike Rico getting his shot on Sunday Night earlier than expected with Chris Collinsworth for NBC, none

of that's happening. Al remains with NBC and Collinsworth and ESPN, I don't know where they go quite quite honestly, because Uh, it's clear they want to make a change, but they don't have a solution right now. And if your booger and test it tour. It's it's obvious, you know, it's a business and that I guess it's hard not to take it personally. But they are publicly at least it's being publicly reported trying to replace you. Can you bring those guys back? How does it work? I don't know.

We're gonna find out. Kurt Warner was reportedly their second option. I think Marshawn had that as well, So maybe we'll see him. And I've said this before, but I've I've liked when he's done a playoff game here and there, the Saturday night games with Rich Eyesen and and um, he's I think Kurt Warner has done a really good job. He does great work on Radio two. And I think the difference between Kurt Warner and Peyton Manning is that

Kurt Warner has discovered that he enjoys broadcasting football. I I get that Peyton Manning keeps getting matched with these dream roles, you know, years on end, But I don't get any sense that Peyton Manning has any real innate desire to be a color analyst for the NFL. I mean, is does it is there any hint that that's the case. No, not so far. Not so far. Maybe in time, but at this point no, and ESPN is probably pretty bummed about it. West, did you say Andrew marsiand are you

have that on authority? Are you just going with a alternate reading of his name. I'm just going by how my history have seen that name pronounced Marando. I mean that's where, that's the route, um, where it came from from the old country. Can be dead wrong. Can you get on this, Ricky. I think it's Andrew marchand West says it is Andrew Martian. Yeah. I think you're both right. No, I need you to do research on this. Reach out to the New York Post please, Okay, Yeah, I'm on it. Okay, great.

Uh And that's what's happening in the news. All right, Mark, I wanted to touch base with you on something because I know there's been a lot of questions about you and your airbnb set up. Well. Now we have an update on the city situation from Simone Sessler on Twitter. A big thank you to Mark Sessler for figuring out how we can both work and homeschool our boys. I took over his home office and we got a cheap airbnb studio around the corner as a quiet office space

to podcast and take turns getting breaks. We both homeschool the boys. My hero Wow, she wrote my hero or did she wrote it? She need to add to that. Now. The initial thought, and this is fairer unfair, is that you had something to do with this tweet yesterday. That was your initial thought. And I said fairer or weight into that degree. I think it's unfair because you know,

I did reply. I did reply to Simone. Okay, Mark, yeah, I saw that, and I'm you know, I fired back at you if if the if the were kernels of that that were true. But here's the thing. The plan played out, um in a in a perfect way because I needed it, you know, almost entirely when free Agency was in its frenzy period, and you know, and we have tried to figure out how to keep this house. Come currently, I'm in a what used to be a bedroom. It now just looks like a ramshackle um Northern Quadrant

of Iran. But I have the door locked. I mean, you got setup that in the week and a half and you've got yours looking beautiful and well again it's like it's it tracks back to being um, you know, caring about the show and being a professional. But the Airbnb thing, for simone side of it. UM paid incredible dividends from the Friday through Sunday period where I, you know, as any good husband would try to do, get out

of here. You've been dealing with these kids for you know, four or five days, and we're we're I think, like with a lot of people, I I'm with Greg. I'm not trying to complain about anything. I've kind of enjoyed UM homeschooling them a little bit and now then it gets to be a little bit too much. But they are here twenty four Evan. They're not allowed to wander the streets obviously, so you're we're just trying to figure it out. And that was an incredible UM investment for

the one and a half week period. It just it worked, and I would suggest it, well, it's so it's we had it. We have it for a couple more days, but it's lost. It's based function other than I'm gonna give her another night off because it's just you know, these you have these little kids, they wake up at like six o'clock in the morning. Needs that when how far away is it? I could walk there in five minutes.

It is literally I could also see NFL network out the window of it, and I initially thought we were gonna have to go into this nob We're gonna go into the studio and all this stuff. And then society just said everything is over, and so the proximity mattered less because because you know, one of them things people are stressing here during all this social distancing is you've got to keep that connection going. And that's not just with people that you you know over the phone or

anything that that's with your wife. And I'm thinking, these kids follow us leap, it's only five minutes away. You never know, you never know. I I'm just saying, but once they're asleep, you know, it's a it's a crafty plan, Greg. In our practice, we don't typically leave the nine and seven years in the house. An I legal plan, I would say, in terms of how the lawses child rearing, as Gregg pointed out the last show that the l A Police seem to have vanished entirely, So I think

you could probably get away. I've not seen a policeman anywhere. Not Every romantic rendezvous was above board as far as the law is concerned. Sometimes dangerously. Yeah, thank you, that's true. That's true. There would be guilt though if you did do that and you return and your youngest, say, has a horrific nightmare and he's stumbling around the house looking for a parent to hold, Yeah, I feel tad guilty.

I don't know if that that question. It's calmed down about the idea of you know, sometimes love and passion can't be held by laws. I mean the need you. I don't think the coronavirus and what's happening to our country has done an incredible amount for people's um marriage libido scenarios in general. I mean that's I'm just gonna suggest it's not a high point in the you've got

that backhouse though, I forgot about that. The shack, well, you can go to the shack and get away with it is because you're still on the property and you know anyway, these are all these are all possibilities for you, buddy. Um, let's get into it. Greg Road a sub banger by his own estimation. Here's the headline, NFL Free Agency's best

Contracts colon Cousins Extension smart I mean headline. Those headline, guys have not the headlines are always revealed to me by you, Dan, But yeah, wait, this is one of the I'm reading this now and I don't know how they came up with this, but I they're a wonderful editing team. Love them like whatever can get the most controversy, that's got to be the headline. Let's get into it, Greg, you mentioned Kirk Cousins, you know, so you could look

at it two ways. Greg. With Cousins, it's a nice deal. Um, it keeps stability at the position. There might be other people, In fact, there are that's say that this guy is, you know, fairly pedestrian and he hasn't been able to get him over the hub in the first two years, and now you're essentially tying yourself to him for half a decade. Speak to that. I liked it just from a financial point of view because it only added one

year of guaranteed money. It's two years, sixty six million, but it only if they wanted to they could get out of it out of two years, so it's not half a decade. It's basically just tacking one extra year on. But then you don't have to go into the season with all the questions of is he a franchise quarterback or not. It's like they've made a decision. They saved ten million dollars in cap space by doing the move.

They were decisive about it, and uh, when the contract ends and he might not get another one from Minnesota, Like, it wouldn't surprise me if he's not in the top ten highest paid order backs in the league. So it's really not like a crazy amount of money an ease. Anyways, I stand into all of your ability to uh generate strong feelings one way or another on that contract. M I just like the move. Here's the here's the reason why he's not on board with this segment because I'm

getting that Cousin got another thirty million. I mean because I'm I've killed and I hate what the Cowboys have done and I hate what the Redskins did with Cousins last time. And this is the opposite of that. When they would have had every reason to do that that it would have cost them more money in the long run, Uh to wait around and and been a little bit of a problem. Instead, you open up cap space. Now,

I think the Cowboys are gonna pay for it. Another move you like Greg Jason Hargrave formerly of the Steelers, joins uh An Eagles defense that was not lacking guys that can get it done on the defensive line, but now they are, you know, downright scary with Hardgrave involved. Yeah. West West talked up the Eagles moves the other day,

and I totally agreed. It's about getting like in act players, and I like teams that have an identity and they build strength on strength, and that defensive line is their strength. Malik Jackson's gonna be healthy again next year. So you have Jackson, Hargrave, Fletcher Cox, Derek Barnett. That's a good it's a good brand. And I don't think it was too expensive to get him either, at least compared to other defensive lineman free agency. What move? What's the move

you hated? Do I want to hear West? What did you not like about it? Let's hear that. I mean, it was just like, of course, Greg's gonna say he hated Todd Gurley. You've always hated him, never credited him as a good running back. You've never liked Robert Squinn, like all these guys. See, I wouldn't expect anyone you, I mean, to remember who I like or don't like, but Quinn has been one of my favorite players, I would say over the last time every year for the

last three or four years. And then when he played light out, absolutely lights out with the Cowboys last year, like that didn't seem to factor into your analysis. It did. But there's a reason why he cost five million dollars on a one year contract the year before, and why why he's been on so many different teams five straight years. He's had an injury problem until last year. So are you going to trust the four years before that or you're gonna trust just last year? Trust the last time

I saw him, which was unblockable. Well, the Bears agree with you, and they must have felt the same about Jimmy Graham. You know, the last time they saw him, he had like a thirty yard catch and you'll see that again, Like what you were looking at Jimmy the playoff game, he had a thirty yard catch. I think it was the only one all year, and they were like, Wow, that guy must be great. How long did it take him to cover those thirty yards? And minutes? All right? West?

What else did you hate about what Greg wrote? That's it just just the part where I knew he would bashtak Girl and Robert Quinn. Well, what's what is the instinct? Okay, the Falcons have like no caps ace relatively, and that's what they're saving it for. Like, why why do you have to pay Todd Gurley six million dollars? I don't because I don't have to, But but I understand the low risk of that, Like one year six million dollars for a guy who another year removed and it's not

like he even had surgery. What if he just flashes that form again? What if he gets to be like eight pent of what he was when he was Offensive Player of the Year. Now you've got a great offense in Atlanta. I will give this to Greg. If someone assigned me the shore of coming up financially with the best and worst contracts, I'd be a child blindfolded in the woods in the middle of the night. I have no idea how to write that, So I think Greg was the right person to author this. Be like your

children searching the Los Angeles streets looking for their parents. Yeah, you're out at the hotel. It's also like, yeah, go ahead, West. I would say it's well reasoned and well written. I just you know, I gotta have something for the show where I rip on Greg's you know, the same guys he always hates are on here again and also down Down and West has a loaded gun in his right hand. So get out of this as quick as possible. Our editor Phil Specter, you know, he has me working on

power rankings for tomorrow. It's a kind of similar, Greg, though also in a good way. That is, you can't be right or wrong with this. Well, I looked at last year this that I made, and tell believe me, you can be wrong. There are some Kenneth was on the Worst Contracts list that might have been the best for you. But you can study of all time. You can't be right or wrong on the day you publish it. That's fair. Randall Cobb, come at me. That's what I

feel pretty strong about. By the way, that's a terrible contract. That was like we didn't get we just traded DeAndre Hopkins and he was our plan and we're just gonna pay him whatever he wants. Does it hurt you a little bit now NFL network shut down. This would have been a great little seg for you to have your tie on and the the pocket square and you'd be going through all these with Siciliana or money, and it'd be a real moment for you and it kind of

it's out the door. Well, how how have those moments really made an impact in the world at large previously? I don't. I don't know if it would have been a moment as you described, more personal moment. Because by the way, for programming, I can think of an hour long show that we could offer daily, five days a week. Where's the why are they? Why are we failing to drum up interest? With these people walking around the third floor?

We have no idea. Where do we get contact? Let's replay Tom Brady's two thousand and eight Week eight victory four times in a row. I don't know. You could have picked any any year, um, except two thousand and eight. That would be something I don't know because it's I probably just argued against my own point right there. Nothing ever, nothing for me, will ever beat what they had in the air Friday. It was called the Jamis Winston Showcase. Well, I just love that created Well that was a tough spot.

That was the night before because I was supposed to be on now on Friday afternoon last Friday and watching our Mayor Eric Garcetti announced that we're now in in our shutdown. That's like the only time the mayor is ever going to tell me that my had has been canceled. Don't need to wait for the internal email on that one. UM. Finally before we go today, so check it out NFL

dot com slash Rosenthal. Um did anybody was anyone else alarmed by Ben Roethlisberger's appearance appearance in his Let's listen to a little bit of Big Ben Ricky if we con couldn't Steelers? Hey everyone, Ben Roethlisberger here. I just wanted to take a moment to make a quick video to let everyone know that we're doing well here locked down in the house, and UM, let everyone know we're

thinking about them and praying for everyone. And UM if you absolutely have to leave your house, which we encourage not doing, but if you have to, I just hope everyone practices good social distancing. UM six eight feet away from every one. UM. But if you're locked down in your house like we are, there's a lot of fun

things that you can do and figure out. We spent the morning, uh figure out curriculum for the for the next few weeks of and he just goes on and on and and it's it's funny how um he expected everyone to not be like thinking only about what was

going on with his beard and his face and his hair. Yeah, it's uh, yeah, you know, I think he could take a tip from you, Dan, because I'm looking at the overall presentation and a little bit of redkin up top might turn that from um sort of trapped mountain man to swell and trim the beard a little. But his message is very nice. But I find his appearance to be um from ten years from now. I would if if someone said this is from I'd be like, oh, yeah it is. Yeah, he's still talking. By the way,

he could also use the redkin. Would be fine because he could use a little style up top. But what about Greg's beard oil, Yeah, I mean sculpt that thing. He looks like an a then in regular at hucka Poos. I think I've had many Yeager. I mean he looks like he could play right guard. That's the elephant in the room. And then uh, he's cutting his own hair. That much is clear if you look at the top, he is cutting his own hair. Was that a figure of speech? Are you actually calling big Ben an elephant

in the room. Well, why do you think he's got the beard? He was the only quarterback with multiple chins, so he had to cover it up. He he is, you know, and not trying to be mean, you know, you know, I'm a man of generous carriage myself. But like he's over three hund pounds right, Well, it's like seventy of that is in his beard. Hair. I didn't see the rest of the body. For me to make that claim, I'd want him to um reveal the rest of what's happening with the body. He could be, he

could be a guy. Maybe just he gains it in the face. I mean, it's it's possible. But we don't have to worry about him blocking any of us because he's already blocked all of us and the rest that is true. I just I'm looking forward to well, I'm looking forward to the World Reserve returning to normal and there being a season. But then after that, I'm looking forward to training camp and Big Ben shows up and

he's cut out of marble. That's like that would be one of the great shocks, and I would be so pumped up, Like like Brad Pitt on the roof and Once upon a Time in Hollywood when he takes the shirt off right Mark, Yeah, I'm not I thought he

Brad Pitt looks um he he fit that scene. I don't think you're gonna get that from Big Ben, And I wouldn't if I if I had a house, I wouldn't put Big Ben on my roof because I'm not sure that he doesn't go right through it at this point, So I don't need You can't even get a construction man to your house at this point, So no, no thanks. Who is West? You're a great historian of the game.

Who is the last plus sized quarterback to thrive? To thrive? Yeah, you might have to go back to like Sonny Jorgenson for that, But I mean the first guy you think of is the Pillsbury throwboy, right of course? Rest in peace? Yeah, um, I think Sonny. Yeah, you gotta go back to the seventies. Probably, it's probably. I don't know about any eighties from from the time they started getting millions of dollars. I don't

think you can come to camp like pounds anymore. Well, it's gonna it's a fascinating subplot around the Steelers and uh, just trim it up, Ben, that's all. Just trim it up. I mean we're growing out our beards too, but I don't know. You just you can't let it get scraggly like that because you start to look a little nuts after a while. Yeah, you're not gonna walk walk over his bridge. No, No, somebody else have a bridge joke. Um,

all right, good stuff, guys. Um we we'll be back tomorrow with another show and we will track what's going on in the NFL. And uh that is and that is good advice. I will say though from Big Ben to continue practicing your social distancing and uh. And meanwhile, an animal is attacking somebody. Come on, Rick, he cleaned it up. That's that's um. What's his name, old Pago So you can't hear him all Pugo. I wanted to call Toto, but it's it's not Toto. I guess it's

that time because Walkers. The other day he was doing a podcast by himself. I was about football, it was about animals. But he likes the microphone setup. I'll subscribe. Hello alright, very very very clearly pronounced, speaks directly into the mic. That's one of the first tenants of broadcasting. All Right, guys, Ricky, let's do this again tomorrow and uh until then, this has been around the NFL Podcast,

presented by Intuit QuickBooks. The official sponsor of the NFL S is Dan Hanson, signing off four The Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Old Boss, the Little Boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the glass until toast that that was the end. He is that, Yeah, well we're here, We're just all going to stay by. I don't know if there's anything say hello, hello, hello, hello, yeah. What what do you want to talk about on your podcast? Walker? Do you

want to talk about the Patriots? I know, I don't want to tell Walker that he's he's a paper coming on Patriots fan like the precise worst time. Hello hello, all right, Patriotte who likes the Eagles? My sister, Yeah, she also likes the Lambs. She likes the Rams and the Chargers probably the best now and maybe the Bucks and Eagles next. What did you think about Tom Brady? Walker? No, no, you weren't happy, all right,