Be Around the NFL Podcast. This is the podcast right here. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by Into a Quick Books, the official sponsor of the NFL. My name is Dan Anderson. I'm coming to you from a city filled with heroes and bunkers. Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley, and Greg Rosentalf. What is up, boys? Hey? Dan? How are we doing? One of the all time great Matt Money Smith intros right there, He's not a phony
in during the coronavirus. I think the biggest shock to me, um during this whole month, which is, you know, seeing human civilization turned on its ear, is when I found out that Money was doing a podcast with Gianna from Love Is Blind? What's her name? I'm still this is like a regular job or it was like a one to give, hey if you can get. I guess I just didn't think that Money would do that. I mean, she seems she certainly seems to uh have plenty of free time just judging by you know, kind of a
light scan of for Instagram activity. She has no concept at all that the world has troubled on any level at this point. She's sort of just floating around. You know, jogging around town posing with her like legs up against yourself, aren't you. No, I believe that I've shared with each with some of you. You're still in the model some of the discoveries yesterday just for just for the shows. No, we I told you we re upped for for the show.
If you were to see my house, there'd be no there's no separate room for me to go to to do this. So I'm doing it for you. I've also I will say that I hope to come out of this with the teachers and with a Los Angeles County teacher certificate because both parental units are into our seven or eight of homeschooling um and they are not effing around with the curriculum. It is hot, it's intense. Yeah, they gave us some they gave us some you know,
suggested work packets and this and that. Let's just say we're going by our own plans. Yeah, the boys have a one hour seminar right now. There's a mommy on the internet that has her own two children and she teaches like a preschool like class. Uh and yeah, and one of her one of her children melts down in the middle of the live stream every morning, which is kind of funny because what you gonna do is she's
not a live stream with a lot of people watching it. Um. Mark, I do love that you said that you're doing this for the audience and for the podcast, not for you at all, not for you to be in your own place miles away from your family. But it's definitely for our for the sanity of our family too. But uh, it's I'm kind of getting well, there you go again. You said for the sanity of your family. Look around, there's nothing to do said for the sanity of your family.
I think there's some Mark Sessler involved with this as well, beyond the podcast community and the family. Well, I mean, it's it's so of course this is the direction that you will take. But I believe me, this was the best plan we could come up with for what our house is under right now. It's this was a smart move. So I don't you know, no shame involved this. This is a getaway for anyone who has to do Actually, no attempt to shaming, just trying to get to the
bottom of it. That's all. Well, that is the bottom of it. I mean, I don't there's no other secret plans being. I don't have anyone like hidden and how much longer do you have it? Now? How much longer do you have this um, this residence unattached from your house, indefinite or what like what's going on here? Well, we found, you know, not indefinite because remember I mentioned that the rate of it was alarming, and it's not surprising because not a lot, not a lot of people are air
being being in Los Angeles right now. So the people were kind of saying, hey, do you want to keep going at this place? And we're like, this is making sense for us, And the re up was what you would pay for basically one night in a typical l a airbnb for another week, So we're just we just said let's do it because it's a place to to go, and I don't think it's a bad plan frankly. I mean, you know, you if I had a garage separate where I could go UM broadcast, it might take some of
those issues away. But we just don't have that space, so I'd be basically in like Luke and Colton's room, attempting to discuss how important it is that Todd Gurley landed with the Falcons on a one year, five million dollar deal with you know, waves of payoffs foaming around my ears and mouth. I don't know. Yes, Dodd Darrelly did find a new home quickly. And we're gonna get into all of the news since we last last left you.
And this is our sixth podcast in six days that isn't around the NFL podcast records, So give your selves a pat on the back, Barry Harrowood style style, ladies and gentlemen of the show. Uh, and Ricky, you can update the around the NFL Podcast history book, UM, if you don't mind, you got it. Yeah, working on it tirelessly. Here.
You can also mark this day down as the first time Amaka my wife ever ever slithered on the ground in the background trying to get something out of this room to avoid the is this the first time Amaca has ever heard any of the show? Even if it's just your voice, it is it is well they have been complaining her and Ellie, my daughter, how loud my voice is during this that the last thing I need is a gigantic Michael. So we're gonna go through the news and we're also going to check in with where
we stand now Friday afternoon. Um, late afternoon on the East coast. Is we're taping this UM and check in with free agents that are still out there, teams that could you know, do well to connect with these free agents cent are out there. But before we do that, where we get into the news West, I would uh, you would mention that you had have been kind of spinning around the league a little bit, and uh, I was curious what teams you thought have gotten a lot better and a lot worse so far in the free
agency process. Well, I think the teams that have lost the most Patriots, Rams, Texans, and here's a team that we haven't really talked a whole lot about, but the But the Vikings have lost a lot. We saw today Everson Griffin says he's not resigning there, so Linval Joseph, Xavier Rhoades, Trey Waynes, Stephen Diggs. I mean, they're losing good players. They're losing guys who were nucleus for their team last year. So the Vikings really strike me as a team. I don't know if we see them as
like a division contender anymore. I don't well, I'm not even contender, not for the division title. No, I don't think they're in the Packers league, and I'm not sure they're in the Bears league. Well, it's super early, like the Patriots for instance. And I'm sure the Rams and Vikings look at this too, are gonna be aggressive in the second phase of free agency, and that's when they often find a lot of their good players. But the
Vikings especially, they've had such continuity on defense. This will look different than any Mike Zimmer team. He's gonna have to prove it kind of his coaching bona fides that he can take a bunch of guys that they find in the draft and turn it into what's been one
of the better defenses in the league. And I would say to um fans out there, teams that have not been active, that are perhaps freaking out on subreddits or wherever right now, UH to hang tight as as a fan of a team that has has made splashes, and the first wave of free agency the Jets, and it awfully blows up in their face. It's very it's not easy to nail these first wave signings. You're just putting
out a lot of money. You're bringing in a veteran that the team, in many cases the team he's leaving did not make it a priority to keep him in the building. Uh So, just because you don't hit on some of these quote unquote big names doesn't mean you can't do damage at all. This this is when it really you've got to have a GM that knows what he's doing in an organization that has its crap together. So hang type, don't panic, don't in any way in
the world. I think about it. A year ago, there were images of right as free agency was going crazy and people were lauding the active teams and fans of non active teams were melting down. Images of Bill Belichick and I believe like Barbados um diving off a pier, kind of thick bellied um diving off a pier into the water. And it's like he wasn't even in the office on the first day or two of free agency. So you know, it's there are many ways to attack
the market. On my issue with the Rams a little bit, and we hit on it yesterday, But they also have burnt through drafts draft stock to a degree where they're not able just to turn to the draft and solve their issues. I I'm a little hard pressed to figure out how they're going to solve some of the vacant West. Is there another team that jumps out to you that maybe isn't getting as much talk right now as far as getting worth or better? Either way? Some of the
teams that are getting better. Um, I think a lot of teams I can see a plan. But going beyond that, who's like who could win more games this year? Because they're clearly better. The Arizona Cardinals I think are clearly better. They've added on defense in addition to dog DeAndre Hopkins. The Miami Dolphins. I like what the Browns have done, and I think the culture a better team getting to
impact players in Philip Rivers and DeForrest Buckner. A couple of a f C West teams Broncos and Chargers are better. I think Buffalo Bills, Buffalo Bills ready to make that move, and and the Patriots long rain a top to a f C East. Maybe we shall see um. All right, now, let's do some news, gentlemen, And yes, let's start with Todd Gurley, who we just talked about it yesterday that it felt that like Gurley could be in a difficult situation because the Rams cut ties of them. There are
questions about that knee. But the fact that he's a free agent, I think there's a I think it's important distinction here. The fact that he was on the street is different than Cam Newton situation. Like the Panthers, Cam Newton has a medical situation as well, but he's still attached to a team and that team wants to maybe trade him, and that MUCKs the whole thing up. Girl is able to be a free agent quickly contact any team.
The Falcons interested, and they signed him uh to a one year, five million dollar contract, essentially a proved deal for Girly to show that he can get back to his former dominant ways. The deal, of course, now is contingent on the twenty year old girl passing his physical with the team whenever that comes. Um so, Uh, Girly is unemployed for less than twenty four hours. It's a good landing spot, Greg, isn't it? Because he's a DeVante
freeman was let go by the Falcons. It's a team that had no identity running the football uh last year. Perhaps Girly is in a situation where he could kind of resurrect himself. It's a perfect, well maybe not perfect situation, but it's not better opportunity than I necessarily would have expected him to get five point five million dollars guaranteed
six million dollar base. That would indicate to me there was some competition for Todd Gurley, because I was surprised that he's getting that kind of money right off the back considering how he played last year. He fits what they want to do in terms of the zone like the one cut power scheme. I just I don't see any reason to think that he's better than average. I think in a in a good situation, he's going to be a decent starting running back and that's probably the best.
Much of this is unknown, and I think that starts with Todd Gurley himself the year they went to the Super Bowl. By November, he wasn't the same back, and I think he was trying to figure out how much of his knee was the same as it was a couple of weeks before. The Rams have been operating in the dark. They haven't known how serious the knee injury was or to what extent it would would affect him, and I sort of I get what Greg saying. It's especially alarming that he was useless in the passing game
last year beyond useless. He was terrible in the passing game. He didn't make play. That is usually a sign that a guy is losing his ability to make people miss when that happens. On the other hand, we're gonna be another what six seven months removed from the last time he ran the ball. Who knows how much the knee is healing on its own in that time. I just feel like it's an acceptable risk for what they're paying
him to see what he can come back. As with the Falcons after giving that niece some more rest, we just don't know. I think it's a reminder that there are two or three raging stars out there today that have signed mega deals, and the way that it works with a lot of these skill position players is we have no idea where they will be two years from now.
I mean, the narrative on Todd Gurley, where we are today from when he signed that extension is one of the more shocking trajectories for a player in a long time. And I honestly, I'm kind of happy for the Rams that they don't have to uh dance around answers regarding Todd Gurley anymore, because I feel like it's been two off seasons in a row where there have been all these kind of ridiculous not to have truths because I think they just didn't know what Todd Gurley would be.
But I don't want to hear about it anymore. It's like we all get it he's on the fringe at this point, and we can only find out who he is with the Falcons when the games start. I don't I will. I don't want to hear like promising, you know, flowery reports about how Grady looks in non padded practices until we see it this time around. The money tells reporting from flower points and flowery brands, well that that's
what you're lucky Mark. I don't think we're gonna have any non padded practices this year, and beginning to wonder if we're gonna have training. Can't even Bill Barnwell, great football writer for ESPN. He tweeted out yesterday, which you know is a fair point. Imagine the Texans just kept de Andre Hopkins and then signed Top Girl for five million dollars. It feels like a better situation than having Randall Cobb and David Johnson and giving up a second
round pick. I don't know it feels like a better team building scenario. You're right, but Bill O'Brien doesn't want to be around DeAndre Hopkins or any other good players on his team except to Shawn walk There's every scenario that that includes taking back like the worst trade on paper we've ever seen. And you could say that. Uh. In other running back news, Melvin Gordon finds a home. So twenty four hours ago, one of the kind of conversations around free agency week was how quiet the running
back market has been. Well, now it's starting to move. Melvin Gordon has signed a two year, sixteen million dollar deal with thirteen and a half million guaranteed with the Denver Broncos. Rap sheet reports, Uh, this is another weapon with Phil b lindsay back there, Royce Freeman. It's a bit of a crowded backfield and an interesting move Gordon. Let's face it, at the end of the day, Marcus couldnot have worked out, uh too much worse. He did
get a two year deal. We were talking about he might have to play on a one year proof of deal. So he does get two years. He does get almost fourteen million guaranteed, but he's not even walk into a situation where he's gonna have guaranteed number of carries going
his way like Todd Gurley has right now. I thought it was interesting that Ian reported that Melvin Gordon there were a couple of teams interested in Melvin Gordon and that he specifically wanted to stay in the A. S. C. West Um to stick it to the Chargers, basically, that he wanted to stay in that division. I kind of loved that, because you know, last year could not have gone worse for Melvin Gordon. You have you stage what
was one of the more ineffective holdouts of our time. Um, you come back and you aren't you kind of you don't fit with Austin Ekeler and if anything, kind of dragged the offense down. Had one of his worst seasons. I still think he could be awesome somewhere if he gets healthy, if he's on a hot streak and he plays the way we've seen in the past. It kind of bumps me out if it's if it overshadows or steals away from Philip Lindsay because and I know West
loves him too. I think he's one of the more electric, exciting players. So you've got to find a way to make that work. But I don't decide designing at all. I mean, we're saying that Melvin Gordon mostly almost narrowed his choices down to three other teams in the league because he wanted to get revenge on the Chargers. This isn't exactly Brett Varve leaving the leaving the Packers to go to the Vikings and he come on now, they wanted to pay him last year. He didn't want their
money and he cost them games. He's the villain here. Give me a break with this that he's gonna get his revenge on the Chargers. The Chargers are gonna get the revenge on him when he's sitting behind Philip Lindsay this year. And it's amazing how quickly thinks change in the NFL. We've seen that several times this week. But last summer Melvin Gordon is holding out and now Austin Ekeler gets more guaranteed money than he does. His backup
got more guaranteed money. And at this time last year, the Broncos were telling us that Royce Freeman was gonna take carries away from Philip Lindsay and be their number one back. It's a slat there's no more volatile position
in the NFL than running back. Things have changed so quickly, uh, due to the the pace is m compared to the other elite positions in the league, due to the injuries, and how losing half a step seems devastating to a running back as we're seeing all over the league every year. It's just wild how much things change. I want to know how Mark, what Mark feels? Just like emotional? Um inside with this Melvin Gordon, you know, trying to get revenge because he's a lifelong Chargers fan according to the
hat that he's he's brought broke out today. Well, I mean I was. I was a fan of a different team, the Titans, yesterday. And it's like half the people on our show apparently have eight different favorite teams. And Gregg is now a Bucks fan. So you know, I'm just joining the totally confusing roadmap of where anyone's loyal two enjoy. I can enjoy, I can enjoy other football teams. And I'll tell you what I might be. Well, so am I allowed to? Yeah? That's why I was just all right.
I don't understand where the question comes from. Um Mine, mine is stupid. I like I love this signing though, I mean, I know they have Philip Lindsay, but always said quickly you need two backs, and that makes sense to me, I think for what they want to do.
Melvin Gordon when he's right, I remember, you know, thinking he was a better player than Todd Gurley as a rookie, and I wrote it and I got and I probably took more grief, like on Twitter for that opinion over the next few years after that than than anything I can remember writing, because Gurley just like took off like a supernova. But I would still take Melvin Gordon over Ted Todd Gurley, like, when he's right, he's a complete
back and that's a great backfield West. I know you don't buy the the Melvin Gordon U is a functionally good person on any of them at this point, But like, wouldn't he better to go to you want to stick it to the Chargers. No, I would say go to the Ram. That was Ian's report. I didn't bake that out of nowhere, But like I'd say, go to the Rams replaced DoD Gurley. There's really not There's there is competition there as well with Henderson, but like you thrive in l A with the other l as other team.
That's revenge, Denver, who's going to be paying attention up there? Clear live at a time mark where when you make mistakes, you keep double down, and you keep doubling down on them, according to the leaders in this country, because you can't ever be found out. And Melvin Gordon is a good person who made a mistake last year and he keeps doubling down on it because he doesn't want to admit that he made a mistake and cost his team games.
And funny and the idea not to hammer this point anything further, but the idea that you have to stay in the division to get your revenge. Everyone sees every every player in every game. Now. It's not like if you leave the region, or leave the time zone, or leave the TV market, people can't keep up with you and decide whether or not you were worthy of the deal you thought you were worth. Good luck to Melvin Gordon, get back on track, buddy, But come on, let it go.
I mean something something tells me the Broncos offered the most money to him and most like that team. And then it's just a funny thing. That fun thing that an agent tells a reporter in other news, tom Brady
the officially a Tampa Bay buccaneer. He assigned a two year fifty million dollar contract and includes another nine million available in incentive, so can get up to fifty nine million, no trade clause, twenty year veteran getting that much guaranteed money, no trade clause, multiple year contract, It is unprecedented and according to Rhoda World, only Jared Goff, Ben Roethlisberger and Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson, uh and Jimmy Garoppolo excuse me, um will take up more of their team's cap at
quarterback under center. So tom Brady finally paid like a superstar, super duperstar. He gets the money. Turns out that the Patriots never even made an offer for tom Brady, which is somewhat notable. Mike Giardi had this report, and Giardi has been a good job and done a good job. He's been pretty plugged in. Clearly has a has the ear of Robert Kraft. Here's what Gardi's report was today. When I spoke to ro brit Craft, he made this
analogy about Tom Brady's departure. Here's the quote, think about loving your wife, and for whatever reason, there's something her father or mother that makes life impossible for you and you have to move on, but you know you don't want to hubba hubber. Now, with that said, Ricky, it's still a little bit of a investigation here of who
Robert Kraft could be alluding to. Could it be Bill Belichick, head coach of the New England Patriots, noted butter of heads with Tom Brady, focus of drama in the Seth Wickersham piece. Could it be Don Yee, the sports agent tom Brady's agent. Could it be Alex Guerrero, Argentine alternative medicine practitioner, an alkaline diet advocate, personal trainer of Tom Brady and the source of much much consternation on the
Patriot Way. Could it be Just Hell Brazilian model, activist, author, actress, businesswoman, wife of Tom Brady and the woman with the eternal quote my husband. Couldnot I think throw the ball and touch the ball at the same time. Who is Robert Kraft talking about? Way? Can I go with another option? Sure, I'm gonna go ge a clumsy analogy that made no sense. It's just like words. So here we go, there we go? Carry that water. I'm not a Patriots fan anymore this organization,
and it's quite at the opposite. I'm I'm saying that the less said, the better, I would say, considering some of some of the quotes coming up, I'm just saying it's such a tortured analogy. There's a chance it means absolutely nothing. I know you wanted to mean absolutely nothing. Perhaps it doesn't mean absolutely nothing, Greg, Perhaps some things means something. I thought he was just calling Bill Belichick a mother in law, right that that would be. Tell
me what that means? Tell me how that's just word souper word salad. And that's not something that's pointed. And he's referring to someone in particular because he's if you looked at the quotes in the last few days, he's clearly in in his feelings, you know, and he's just sort of like, I don't know, if lashing out basically, like the other the other quotes were that he that was that Tom Brady made the choice to leave, like I don't. Basically, I don't find it like a overly
credible source. What do you mean, Rob Craft his quote directly to Mike Jardim, I can't I'm not making sense of your defense of this situation here. This is not a defense I'm trying to, you know, walk a tightrope here. I'm just saying I'm not too worried about his quote. I guess I would say like that it has any meaning in the greater anybody else have a thought on this?
I mean, Dan, I think if it's Robert Guerrero, the the TV twelve and fitness guru, um, he is going to be found underneath the mass Turnpike because if he's the reason that Tom Brady is no longer with the Patriots, that's not going to sit well with an angry um contingent of people in that state. I didn't. I mean, maybe it was the somewhat clumsy quote, but it's to me, and maybe I tilt in the other direction than Greg does on this. Robert Craft seems to be pointing the finger.
That's someone and he's not pointing it at himself, and to me it's Bill Belichick or bust but right, but he also pointed the finger at He pointed the finger at Tom Brady specifically a day or two ago, which was probably like the least classy thing that went on in this entire um after effects, So that would be the opposite that YE had. Logic would say, of course Belichick didn't want him. They did not for him a contract.
I think one one thing I would know, um, and you mentioned he finally gets that big time quarterback money. This wasn't that good of a contract. He made this money last year. He made this money on his previous extension. The fact he got two years is pretty interesting. But the fact that he's making five million dollars less than
Ryan Tannehill this year, UM, I found interesting. Every report said he had thirty million dollars at least per year, that the Patriots were offering it a month or two ago, and those reports turned out to be total agent generated garbage. How does he's making twenty five a year? That's what he made last guy has? This guy has habitually taken
less money. I mean, why would I think that he tried to get a much money as he possibly could, because because the reports literally two days ago said his he told both teams he would only you know he wanted to start the negotiations at thirty million dollars guaranteed per year, and that the chargers in the Bucks were in immediately off of that, but that isn't Ultimately, that's not what he got. I just I don't believe that he tried to get as much money as possible. It's
not what he's done in the past. And I know you've tried to frame it other ways, but he could get more money, and he's never he's never tried to get more money. He's never said I want this to be purely about the money. I think he understands. The Patriots did not, as I said, did not make any type of offer to him, and the Patriots said Tom Brady never came to us, the Patriots not even engaging with him on this. That's interesting to me as well.
And if he wanted sixty million and he got fifty with a with a chance to get up to fifty nine with another team, that it sounds like the Patriots are never gonna play ball with him. They never got involved in anything tangible discussion with him. I think that's right. I think they Belichick most likely played it in such a way that Brady had no other choice but to leave, and that he probably had the feeling that Brady wanted to leave to begin with. But either way, they were
ready to move on. I agree with the last thing. I'm just gonna go through. I'm gonna parse it one more time. So think about loving your wife and for whatever reason, there's something her father or mother. So in this analogy craft is the husband, the wife is Brady. Okay, there's something and there's an outside figure the father or mother, someone close to the to the wife that makes it impossible for you. Uh, and you have to move on,
but you don't want to. I don't see how he's not pointing the finger at someone, and if it's if it's Belichick, is he pointed the finger at Brady two days ago, which which was really surprising to me, and maybe like why are you why are you still talking about this? If you're if you're well, because it's the biggest NFL story in ten years, that's why. Well. But here's the thing. He was literally silent, Uh sure if if? If?
The other option is that he literally was calling Stephen a smith during ad breaks because he didn't like what they were saying on the air. And then he's um kind of taking away the work that they put in with the state public statements that they're reaching and then deciding to point the finger at Tom Brady to to an ESPN analyst so that he can then relay that you're pointing a finger and now there's another finger being pointed.
It's a little that's a lot of tide. And Craft has always been willing to talk to the media at length, and I think he wanted to make it clear to everyone I am not the reason. Well, you whether it's Brady and whether it's he's throwing some shaded Brady also said some very nice things about Tom Brady and whether he's throwing shaded person X, which is Belichick. Probably he's
making it clear to everyone in Boston. I'm not the reason, right, which is I think back to West, which it goes back to West's point and the reason why this part frustrates me more than anything to deal with the Brady divorce. It's a total lack of responsibility. You know, it's the person at the top choosing to point fingers instead of
accepting that like, hey, this happened. I'm in charge. I share the responsibility, and probably the best thing to do is to be like my quarterback and coach, who would never that's fair what he if they never made the offer. If Brady uh and the team hit an impass and Brady said, I'm gonna go paid elsewhere if you're not going to be aggressive. When it's all said and done, the owners should just take ownership and say we decided
to go in a different direction. Because when you do this, you have JABRONI is like me and everybody else out there that are now going to part your quote and wonder if there's a schism here with Belichick. And that's what you know, going back three or four years ago that Wickershian piece for ESPN, everyone always wondered whether Bellichick and Brady could survive, as you know, the a pairing in terms of their egos and relationship, and this just
kind of throws kerosene on it, quite honestly. And I think it's going to continue to be a story because as good as the Patriot Way is with keeping things off the books, I think this is one that leaks and will continue to leak just because, like Mark said, it is one of the biggest NFL stories in a
very long time. I think, Uh, you're absolutely right, but it's it's also it's supported in basically every report around Brady, how eager he was to have a different type of voice in his head like that, Like the people that seem closest to Brady keep reporting how he wanted to be treated like an adult. I think the Aryan style of coaching, like he just was sick of that, which is very natural after twenty years that he was sick of of that type of coaching. He didn't want to
go back, like competing with Jared stid him. You're totally right, and I would go look at Tom brady Instagram posts from today where he talks about I think with excitement about starting over, calling it year one, and how it's his responsibility to win over that locker room and win over his coaches and show them from a day to day process the way he did in New England, that he arrives with nothing, he just has to show it. And Brady to me sounds like refreshed and happy, like
he's the one that got out of this marriage. He wasn't happy about. I like that Chris Godwin is not guaranteeing that he's given the number twelve away. He was saying like he can't wait for it to play with Todd Brady and he's texted with him and everything. But he was also like Wow, it hasn't really come up, but you know, I kind of want, we should all wish to have such such leverage and negotiations that Chris
Godwin has right now. You know. Uh, let's stay on the topic of dramatic situations involving head coaches and players. This story and I read it in ESPN. Michael Rothstein had it Darius Slay, who of course was traded by the Lions to the Eagles and then gave him a new contract the big piece added to the Eagles secondary This week, Slay spoke out about issues with Matt Patricia that uh, he didn't see quote eye to eye a lot um with one person in the organization. It was
Matt Patricia, and he cited two specific instances. One where Slay returned from working out with a collection of star cornerbacks and when he met with Patricia shortly after that, Patricia made sure to tell him that he wasn't in the class of these cornerbacks. Richard Sherman Key to leave Xavier Rhodes. Uh, you told him that he wasn't quote elite. That's some straight out of the uh Greg Williams uh
book of coaching. UM. And then the big incident involved Slay posting something on social media about a wide receiver that he had been practicing with that had some success against him in the practice. And uh, I guess Slay posted some type of positive um message with a picture of that wide receiver, and Patricia went off on him in a team meeting and said something very beyond the pale. Uh to put put it softly, you know, don't suck
up to an opponent another guy like this. You've gotta be tough, uh, And but much more coarse than that in terms of the language. And that led to a total breakdown and Slay saying I almost you know, I had to be restrained, but I kept my cool. But he could never look at him with any respect after that. Matt Patricia is a major problem with the lines, I think. And this is just another example to me of a situation where they had to get out of the sooner
rather than later. It's just another example of a Belichick disciple leaving New England, coming to a new place and without really establishing any kind of respect, without earning respect, has started acting like a jerk to his players. And we've seen this with Eric Mangini, with Josh McDaniels. Bill O'Brien, you're not Bill Belichick. You can't act like him, act
like yourself. And I'm a little confused also at Darius slay His offense at this was more about his manhood being questioned than the fact of sexual sexual orientation in general being be smirched. I just like the whole thing. I mean, he comes from a different place in US, a different background, and and it's a level of manhood challenging that I think slay Um took offense to. I mean, that's how he saw it. It wasn't so much of
challenge of his orientation. We'll get over it then. If it's only about challenging your manhood, then get over it. If it's about something deeper the night and this is Slay's quote right there after that, that's when all my respect went out the door for him as a man. So, you know, Patricia is entering year three the Lions. You know, it seemed very it seemed like a coin flip whether he would stick around. They decided, uh to keep Patricia
in the building. And he's gonna need results this year because I think he's gonna be when when I put out the hot butt rankings later this August. Hopefully, Uh, Patricia is gonna be right at the top of the list with Doug Morone. He's got to be right, Yeah,
I think so. I mean, in the best case scenario, maybe he's just like um, one of those people who tries to be funny and sarcastic, but then everyone around them just thinks like that's That was another quote in it that is sense of humor does not click with the players. Tough sitch as they say. Uh. For Matt Patricia and other free agency news, Eric Ebron has a job. The former Lions and Colts tight end sides a two year, twelve million dollar deal with the Steelers. He's only twenty six.
He's a first round pick a long time ago, it feels like, but he's still just twenty six. He had that breakout season with Andrew Luck in the Colts a couple of years ago, thirteen touchdown catches I believe, but he did not make an impact last year. Was banged up and had a very disappointing run in Detroit. Overall, Steelers hoping to get something out of him. This comes to the same day that Ben Roethlisberger, in a report
is saying that he feels great. He hasn't thrown with without pain like this in a long time, so that was certainly welcome news on the Steelers front as well. One Ben Roethlisberger also has been you know, preparing, I think for the end of days in this pandemic, you know, for a long time, based on based on how he looks. So he's ready. I like that Hebron signing. The Steelers have been trying to fill that Heath Miller Hoole every year, and Hebron is only what a year removed from that
thirteen or fourteen touchdown season. I saw somebody comparing his numbers last year to Jimmy Graham's numbers, and give me a break with that nonsense. Watch the film, get out of the stat book. For Hebron can still make plays. He can still box out and jump over people in the end zone. Jimmy Graham's not doing that anyway. Uh. Andrew's pe gets a big deal from the Saints. He sticks around a five year, fifty seven and a half million dollar contra act. UH No player at his position
has gotten this kind of money. UM in free agency. That's thirty three million guaranteed at signing number thirteen overall pick Gregg, were you surprised to see and Just Pete get this type of wop from his team? I was shocked and I wanted to put this in the rundown just to just to mention, Uh, Saints Twitter just being a gas and this is the worst thing that's ever happened. All they'd like to do is make fun of Andrew's Pete every day. My guy, that boy Wolf. I mean,
they were just hoping. I think they all unfollowed Andrew's Pete, just hoping he was leaving for another team and then they bring him back and give him a ton of money. He he was like with the biggest reason they lost that game against the Vikings, the Bengals, asking if they would accept him as a fan. Now, wait, so the Saints they unfollowed, Is that true? Well, I don't know about that. That's kind of a going bit that again.
I mean that boy wolf is getting he every time one of their bad players, one of their players goes to another team, he just like quote retweets it and with all caps unfollowed, And I don't know, they just people, They just hate them. Some Andrews beet and then so this contract they think through them for a loop. Hey Ryan, I haven't seen hate like this from Saints Twitter since Kirk Colem. Hey Ryan, a k dat boy wolf. You're
having a moment. Man. I know things are tough right now, and uh, we're all getting through it the best we can. But just now, you're having a moment and we see it maybe gets overlooked in the big picture, but you're having a wolf You're having a wolfy moment here. Moving on, let's get into it. That's what's happening in the news. There's your rundown. Um, we talked about it. Um. We wanted to go through players that are still out there and and are you know, could be a nice pick
up in the second wave of free agency. Will start right here and we could go through the list, but we'll start right here. Mike Giardi, our own Mike Ardi reports that the Patriots are quote unlikely to target free agent quarterback Jamis Winston. So if jardis reporting is accurate, and it has been to the state, uh in Patriots related matters, Uh, you could cross off another potential starting job for Jamis Winston. Uh. Let's talk about Winston a
little bit. Do you think we're reaching the point where the man coming off the thirty three touchdown five thousand yards season, also thirty interceptions, is gonna be holding a clipboard in week one barring some type of unforeseen circumstances. I think we're getting closer and closer to that. I mean, no one was rushing out for Jamis Winston. I still see a few landing spots out there where if he
got into training camp. Uh, the current quarterback I can question could be unseated because I think Jamie, I would say Jacksonville would be somewhere where if that team kind of melts Um and Jamis Winston were at at the backup quarterback spot, Hunt Gardner Minshew that he could easily be starting by week five or six. I feel the same way with Andy Donner Jacksonville. Right they hired Jay Gruden,
who drafted Andy Dalton with the Bengals. UM that was clearly Mike Brown wanted Kaepernick and Jake Gruden wanted Dalton. I could see definitely the Jaguars getting Dalton. I I don't see Jake Gruden going for Jamie's makes a lot of sense, though. I just but there are a lot of spots where Winston, if he goes, is gonna like be seen as a starter anywhere. He's not going to be a starter Week one. Probably his best chance to play would be Washington if they kind of take him
as the UM. If Dwayne Haskins struggles, let's play Jamis Winston guy, which just feels like a Washington move. I can very much imagine Jamis Winston struggling on the Redskins. I don't think it'd be a good move for for Jamis Winston, but I just don't see him having options. I was wondering if the Patriots might be interested, but
it's crazy, all right, here's another here's another option. Potentially the Chargers are out there now, everyone's connecting them to taking a quarterback, which if that's the case, if they're said on that, they're not gonna go near Winston because they already have a s a solid backup in Tyron Tyron Taylor. UM And I'm trying to think where else would he I'm talking about anywhere where he would have
any chance to be the Week one starter. I think Jackson, Washington, perhaps, Jacksonville, perhaps, um l A perhaps, But we're running out of options, and that goes for you know, Andy Dalton of course as well, and Cam Newton, not Lodge, and went through his former offensive coordinators. I went through his former quarterbacks coaches. None of these guys are even in the NFL anymore.
I don't see a fit. I don't like him any as seem like, yeah, I don't see anywhere for Jamie's like, I don't even know where he's gonna go to be up pure back Denver, Denver. I thought maybe if if el Way, you know, just wanted to bet on some
talent that the guy to put behind lock. And it is another reminder in football, running back is the most fault told these positions, it seems, but quarterback is right there too, because it was only a couple of summers ago, on Hard Knocks that Jamis Winston was the darling of Tampa Bay and he was up at five am listening to affirmative Uh what are the words of affirmation those audio books, and the whole building was just obsessed with him,
seeing him as their past, present, their president, and their future. And now he's in a position where he's gonna have to basically rebuild his career from scratch, and everyone is saying, how shocking. It is because he has had the thirty plus touchdowns, the five thousand yards passing. But I think the book on him got so thick over the years and years of careless play that it just poisoned him on this market. I mean, there's no other way to
look at. I mean, it just he basically has to remake his entire game and I don't know if that's possible. It certainly didn't look like he had that ability in five years in Tampa. I mean, theybody want to flow out nine Yeah, with to say with Jamis Winston's growing in interceptions thirty interceptions. They lost like five or six games by one score and he threw seven pick six.
It's I if can you ever imagine him on New England with when Bill Belichick benches a running back who will if he fumbles up by points in the third quarter. So it's like, I can't think of a worse marriage than a team that is obsessed with flawless football. You need to find someone that's looking for a gun slinger and maybe just banking on talent, And I just don't, to west his point, I don't see where that landing spot is. Okay, I think it really does. Like what
a truelock is just not much by we four. Then you have VI they need something else there, you have a person behind it don't viable. You know Jonah Gray is that his name? He's still changed to a radiator somewhere. Yeah, he had a yard four touchdown game on Sunday Night Football and then his iPhone didn't go off and Belichick basically ruined his career for it. So yeah, it is what it is with Bill sometimes Bill's Bill. Yeah. I mean if Jonas Gray was meant to be the next
Errol Campbell, it would have happened anybody. Uh, yes, you want to throw it out there throughout a player that's still a free agent right now as a Friday late afternoon and perhaps a fit. Well, this guy is not like a household name, but he he's a very good starting safety Von Bell from the Saints. Uh they signed to Malcolm Jenkins appears to have taken his place, so
he's probably not going back to New Orleans. But I see all that, you know, the reports that all these guys are interested in going to Tampa Bay and playing with Tom Brady. I don't know if Evan Baim is really moving the needle on that front. But or Joe Hagg I guess as the guy they saw Joe hag quolts back up Lineman Um, but Von Bell they have a need at safety, could be a fit there. And and I think the Bears are another team after losing Haha Clinton Dix that they could pare him with Eddie Jackson.
I would love to. I would love to see he's one of our highest ranked players. I would love to know what the market is now for Jadeveon Clowney. I would like to know what where his price tag is at, because at the right price, if he is not being paid as one of the most you know, if he's not valued by the league, is amongst the highest paid players in the league on defenses, which were what he wants it to be. Um, if that price dad comes down,
he makes sense for a ton of teams. I mean, uh, you can name fifteen twenty teams that could use a guy like him that could at times dominate from the edge. So I'm not going to even attach him to one team, But I'm as curious if his market is coming down and he's not going to get the money he wanted. I think it was what twenty million annually? Uh, if if any number of teams should maybe check in, even if you initially initially wasn't on the list because they
thought he'd be too rich. But the Seahawks a multi years and he had interest in the Giants. That's one if the price gets down to a certain place New York Giants. The Seahawks reportedly had a multi year offer on the table that he didn't like. So maybe it was like a three year seventeen a year, or he might have to take a one year contract for more, you know, per year money that are apparent you know West. This would be another example for the gm O. I
don't know how that would work. Actually, maybe there is some type of moderator. All right, I got it. So we as a moderator as a yeah, as a moderator, you you have the intel, you know what the offer is, and then you kind of drop it in there at the top of the thread, like top thread, Hey, jadeveon Clowney right now, Uh, it's four year or is forty eight million? Who who can beat it? And then that could basically juice the market and everybody gets a chance
to look at it and decide whether to play ball. Well, I've seen this as an opportunity to expand. It's like from the developers of the GM app, we present the Free Agent app shop yourself around the league, so it allows you to use the GM app as isn't that basically what a what an agent is being hired to do? We're changing everything. Isn't that what the GM is that you're killing six jobs basically? I mean they're agents. Well,
the app handles that. That's what all apps do. They killed question when the app is aren't front office is or or the main tenants of an NFL front office to not your information with anyone else? And this this does the guess the point, I guess the one of the points. You know, this is a new text. The world is upside down. Maybe it's time to take a look like it's like how Los Angeles as you use an example, with everyone off the roads for the most part,
industry at a standstill. We have never had better air quality. You have to go back, you know, hundreds of years to match the air quality we have right now. What bro and guess what nobody would have even known that if if this didn't happen, and now we have a chance to do something similar in this realm where no one ever thought that things needed to change or what could happen if you did change. And now here we are here, we are standing at the at the doorstep
of history. Are we're gonna walk in? Mark? Are you're gonna just stay on the outside? You make the decision at the same time, Like every bistro, bar, public place is closed, so I mean the tradeoff. We have some nice air and that's that's not people are dying anywhere. You can't talk to anyone. You can go on hikes, though, I feel like people and go and walks, you can go exercise. People. People taking this stay inside think a little too much. They're saying, go get out to you.
Are you know, well, you've gotta figured out Craig. I mean we could. We could have gone hiking before too, though, So it's like, you know, hike now your glorious social butterfly in the prime of her youth. UM With that, there has been some buzz out there. I think Lakeisha Jackson Westling had had thrown it out there as a possibility of some type of um happy hour, like a everybody gets on a Google hangout type situation. Uh, and
cracks a few and gets loose. Is that something that you maybe can spearhead because you are very good at these things? Yeah, definitely, I'm Actually it's with some of my best friends from home. We're doing a virtual happy hour at five o'clock Pacific because it's eight o'clock there, um, so we'll have to schedule ours a little bit later for me to be able to jump in. But yeah, I can. I can spearhead that. I guess I'll plan
on being virtually happy I have it. You know, West has said that he hasn't had a drink since it started. I have not had a drink in forty five hours about and I'm feeling like it's time to treat myself. Mr Jo you were you were in hot water. It sounded like on Wednesday or so. So this is this is a positive updates completely destroyed my body. My body is just it's a it's just like there's no coming
out like of this. Like I try to do workout videos and and I've been going up for walks, but then I just totally destroy every bit of progress that I make. What would you say you're ingesting? Just like way too much booze way too much booze. You know, I don't think so so like I drank a little bleach. There you go. I want to check in on this deflated wide receiver market. Connor Hughes does great work for
the Athletic Cover and the Jets. He reported today that it is quote radio silence on the Robbie Anderson market, which you know, speaking of the bill, come and do the bill came do on Jameis Winston. All those mistakes, uh, and now he can't get a job and he's in a in a tough spot. Robbie Anderson, even though he kept his nose clean this past year. The fact that he's not, you know, he's not exactly a polished wide
receiver despite having great speed and playmaking ability. The fact that he was a knucklehead off the field and has had multiple issues in the past. When you combine those things, teams aren't aren't aren't looking at him, it seems in a way where they want to pay him or or maybe this all the reports out there that he wanted fifteen million a year um is scaring teams. Often it's time for his price tag to come down to that now. It's probably actually it's probably maybe a little bit of all,
but probably more than money. I think very very strongly that the Jets should get Robbie Anderson and keep him in the building. I've said that multiple times, but I want to throw another team out there. What are the Packers doing? We love our boy, uh the big german. This is this is your corner's name again. Let's listen to that. Ricky Um. We love Goody and he did a great job or great ish job rebuilding the defense
last year. But it has been pretty Packers need more weapons for Rogers has Dan's cord and you know what, it's been pretty quiet. And I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Emmanuel Sanders is out there to still, Robby Anderson is out there shot Perryman, which all right, But DeAndre how I'm just saying, nobody's signing wide receivers because of this draft class coming in prom Okay, So if that's gonna be the Robs, Packers go great. But how about Goody. I'm gonna put a challenge out to Goody.
Pick up the phone and just make sure there's no other DeAndre Hopkins situations out there in the league. Get on the g M act and say, hey, anybody else looking to unload franchise wide receiver for reasons unknown, I need one because Hopkins would have been an amazing fit across from Duvant Adams in Green Bay. People would have been going nuts about that is a J. Green who
has been franchised by the Bengals? Are we sure? Is the football world absolutely certain that if you've made a phone call to Mike Brown or whomever in that building, that you couldn't maybe get a J. Brown a J. Green in an assign and trade thing. Kick some tires, goody, don't go all in on the draft class. That's that's one thing that stands out to me. There are whispers out there, and I'm not I get that they're not coming from the Associated Press at this point, but there
are whispers. And this is how the Odell Beckham trade started in Cleveland initially. That's always on the defense. I don't know there are whispers that you know, but there are whispers that he is potentially available, and I and there I've just thrown it out there talking a week and see if what do you mean? Who who are you?
Who is he Odell Beckham? Okay? In Cleveland that that's been talked about forever that It's just it's not that they're trying to move them, that they're desperately trying to move them. It's not a Bill O'Brien situation at all, but that they are listening to that. And I still think if I if I'm Green Bay, I would rather get someone like Emmanuel Sanders than Robbie Anderson on a
short term deal. But the Packers, notoriously last off season, we're singing Dixie about how excited they were about their young guys, and I thought the season played out to show that they shouldn't have been. And are they doubling down just because that's how they fail to you can get it. I agree with you, Dan, they need to add weapons. But it's a good Core's Odell Beckham that the Brown's New Uniform fashion show is canceled. I mean that's been the thing that for decades. Potentially he's gonna
lose that. How do we know it's canceled? I don't know if it's gonna happen. Actually, I think with Robbie Anderson, I'm glad you mentioned the money. Like as a younger person, I used to think you might as well just ask for as much money as he possibly can, Like, it couldn't possibly hurt, but I think like, and it's sometimes it can it can hurt that In Robbie Anderson's case, it's like yeah, like he throws that money out and
everyone's just like, okay, forget about. By the way, Jamis, no one did the same thing as soon as the season ended. Thought he was a hundred million dollar quarterback right exactly, And we had reports on our network saying they were going to franchise him and that he wanted more money than that. And sometimes like that can cool the market on a guy like Robbie Anderson, who I like, who I think we'll still get a decent contract, but it's just where there's no interest, I'm gonna make a match.
By the way, while we're talking receivers, Manny Sanders to the Cowboys, there's this perception that the Cowboys don't have cap space. They got plenty of cap space right now. I would love to see a little Manny Sanders between Gallop and uh Amari Cooper and fly, like, let's let's win. Now that Cowboys cap apocalypse probably doesn't hit for another
two years or so. Well, there's an update on this as we went to air ESPN is Todd Archer said, based on multiple conversations I've had with Cowboys folks, I'd be stunned if Manny Sanders ends up there. M hmm. But that was in the air for a day or two. I still like the Ravens as a landing spot for him. I just think that he is a perfect teammate. He feels a perfect need for them at a Super Bowl open windows scenario that I think he wants to that
matters to him right now. And you know they don't have a ton of cash necessarily, but with what they've done on their defense, like the Ravens are one of those teams I think that have helped themselves a lot, and I do see a need for wide receiver and Manny Sanders would be How about the Niners. How about the Niners find a way to keep him in the building. He was a great pick up for them. The only reason he faded at the end of he was hurt.
It sounds like that's possible. I would love to give some cool players, especially Cam Newton, to the Patriots, but the Patriots have zero cap room right now, so I'm curious what they are going to do about that because they have some big moves I think yet to make. Maybe it's still restructuring and you just go with Stidham and this is what they're doing. But knowing Belichick, it feels like there's something big coming to clear some of that space out so that they can get flexible and
do something. Maybe they're just gonna go to camp with Stidham, but but Cam Newton will be a lot more fun. What about like a direct snap offense where you use Joe Tuney as an all purpose fullback who the center is direct snapping too. When he gets six to seven touches this year for seven yards, they are bringing in Danny Vitally, the fullback from the Packers. Like that's the Patriots big move. You could go double fullback. How does just from a mechanical point of view more than a
realistic uh possibility? The first round tender given to your boy Taysom Hill, how does that work? So if you if you sign him to an offer sheet that the Saints failed to match, you have to go up your first round pick exactly. But you could work out a trade and that's happened plenty. So in theory, if the Patriots wanted to offer a second round pick for Taysom Hill. You know, the Saints could still agree to take it if they wanted to maybe catch Sean Payton while he's
not feeling snatched, tasting Hill away cold blooded. What I'm just saying. You know, it's like he's he's probably not total head in the game right now. You could maybe feels like Belichick would go there. I think he would don't like a very nice menstlers, like like like the Tom Hanks friend who's trying to like take advantage of him during his time of need take take some money. Hey, can I go stay at your house in l A. You're you're in Australia. I don't put it best, Bill
like sending a package or something to Sean Payton. And that's how this all started and it was all part of a long play. Yeah, I agree. I think they need to change. They're going to change some players that I don't know that the cap thing with them is interesting. I just feel like they have like maybe it's Julian Edelman.
How about that little FedEx COVID style. Yeah serious, Erica laughing because Dan was like, I think Bill Belichick literally sent a package to Sean Payton and this is how the whole start, this whole thing started, and Greg's like, yeah, I agree, Like he didn't even hear, and it was funny.
It does show how much our world has changed. Six days ago, Sean Payton was in a packed shoulder to shoulder in field of a horse racing competition in which he owned some horses, and he was doing interviews about how free agency was going to get delayed. That was six days ago, and he was surrounded by like a at that point, interesting time, think about the horses, anybody else willa throw out one before we uh signed off
for the weekend. This sounds very hometown is for me, But like Clay Matthews is out there, and I think that very few drafted gaffs by the Browns annoyed their fandom more than not when he was there and he was available, not drafting Clay Matthews after the incredible hal fame worthy to me career that Clay Matthews too had in Cleveland for years and years that claim Mathews av belable. They could use a pass rusher and I don't know why you just don't bring him in. For one year
we got those old uniforms coming back. Like you mentioned, that's who you model. You virtually model Clay Matthews in your old school Brown's uniforms. He goes in there, what do you have eight sacks? Slasher. I'm not saying he's the same old guy, but he had a pretty solid season at least the beginning of last year. Just see what you know? You have to drop forty five million dollars on the guy you basically just want to bring in the new uniform. Is that basically what you're getting
at here? No, because his father played there, and it's like if like if Todd Gastone are available. You know Todd gast So it's the same thing you would you would. Don't worry. You have Neville Hewitt. You don't need podcasts. Hey not a free agent. But Trent Williams, he's sort of like Jameis Winston. To me, I went around the league all thirty two teams, and I'm not seeing a team desperate right now, which seems weird after the last few years. I'm not seeing a team desperate for a
thirty two year old left tackle. Um teams like the Browns I think are are I in the draft with a strong tackle class, and to me, the Redskins need Trent Williams more than anyone else does. That's a good one. Jason Peters is out there too, and he is thirty seven years old turning thirty eight. Feels like a guy he could still play, maybe a good short term guy where you I'll use I'll use my team as an example.
They if you're in the market for a left tackle on the draft, that you could get a guy like Peters. Maybe start the rookie on the right side and then when it's time he could slide over. He's also injury insurance if Peters gets hurt. Step George Fan. What's that? All their problems are settled with George Fane George Fan
and they're good. Hey listen, Yes, you know more about offensive line play than the Joe Douglas Joe Douglass because Joe Douglass has been making savvy under the radar offensive lineman signings all week and we don't even need to get it into it on the show. But this guy is plugged in and he knows what he's doing. Look out is is and Dona Kunsue still a free agent or does he resign? He's on the street. This this is his move. He doesn't sign right away? Does he know?
What's his buddy? Leaya Coca is always hanging around. He's been talking to lie Aa Coca and he's you know, I forgot about LI said, hold off? What you could sign always later in the summer, at this juncture of your career. All right, everybody, Uh, have a nice weekend? Is that even a weekend anymore? Have weekends ceased? We don't have the podcast? Yeah, that's a difference. But in
terms of days, are days of thing anymore or days over? Not? Really? Well, I would say honestly, I will not be doing three and a half hours of math and reading homework with the child tomorrow. I mean, we'll do something more engaging and fun. I hope where will we go? I have no idea what's good for structure? It's good? Like I was.
I was asked by Phil Specter, our editor, to put together a post free Agency Way one power rankings, and I was thinking to myself, you know, I have to file it by noon on Monday, which means should I do some work today Friday? Because I want to keep the weekend open to spend it with the family was like, all I do is spend time with my family now, so I think I will be doing some of that assignment on Saturday and Sunday. So it's kind of essentially flipped.
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How many times like I show I checked in on NFL Network right before we came on, and it's Jamis Winston showcase was the name of it, and they were just playing Jamis Winston games, which, by the way, Jameis Winston is he is he paying NFL Network to essentially advertise his wares, although I guess showing Winston highlights from last year might not be a great advertisement, but that bucks rams games underrated the air. We're not even asking for a raise yet, hey Mark via two and maybe
not the time. Two minutes ago from Tom Pellicero tight end, Seth de Valve has agreed to terms with the Panthers, per his agent. Listen, I mean the Panthers. They're in a rebuild and looking for superstars of the future, and that is Seth DeValve right there. So I think it is a tremendous landing spot for him and I expect tremendous, huge things. That was very Trumpian by the way, just say tremendous a lot. This is a huge and nobody
will notice. I think that's hows conference from today actually based on what seriously do you do all R Yeah, I'm having trouble here any mark new. This is a good time for us to say goodbye. Thank you to the audience, Thank you them, So you Ricky for helping us to do this. A full week of shows done in five different locations. Technology is not so bad. Thanks to my kids for stage. Are they still in the house? Oh boy here, Well let's sign off so you can
make sure they're safe. And I need to do some dad work now as well. So everybody stay safe, do what you gotta do. Stay inside the house, don't do anything stupid. Don't go to spring break. I mean, are you kidding me? You're going to spring break? Kids? I mean, I get it. It sucks, it's it's screwing your spring break, But are you being serious of this? Les? Come on, come down in these kids. I can't wait until I have to deal with all that. What a disaster. Anyway,
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