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an unsung hero of any championship squad. West I back on this. It sounds like a bad term. That's fair, but in reality, you're not winning championships without a super utility guy who can plug it a lot of different positions. If if I was trying to pump myself up, I was kind of a utility guy for the Shield the year, absolutely integral and who was celebrating at the end of

that season Shield? Well, when when we win the podcast championship, just uh, you know, let me be in the orbit, like when you guys are jumping up and down on the mound, Like I'll be that guy that high fiving security. Hey, I was here, allowed on the field. This is our a tradition after the draft, are around the a f C and around the NFC episodes and Claibon not his first rodeo here. If one of us is out of the studio, we could plug Patrick right in plug and

play guy. Now we're gonna switch to football plug and play and who next man up? Everyone loves plug and play. That's what you look for a plug and play guy. Well, he's been sharpening his iron against other men's iron for a lot of years. What else we got us? He's joining He could join us for up to the minute hits, which we might do on Wednesday and Thursday. It might be a little pre tape, a little peek behind the curtain. Tune into that. You don't have to tell him it's

a pre tape. Well, they would maybe somehow put it together. There was at one time where I was here and then we didn't the show, and I was also hosting the show. Yeah, that's next level meta. Um. Anyway, So Clay Brons here in the Mark Cessler chair. Mark is wandering Los Angeles somewhere. I hope he's safe. I hope he's watching out for trains. That's a little call forward. Keep keep an eye out on Mark's been watching out for trains for years now, hopping on the occasionally little

nail soup um. So yes, the draft is in the rearview mirror, free agencies in the review mirror. We have some offseason workouts to come, many mana mandatory mini camps, then the summer break and then train again. Listen, it's just it never stops. But after the draft comes a chance to reset things and take a look at where

these teams are. And that's why we picked this time of year, this time of year and also right before Week one GREG to do the round the a f C and around the NFC, around all of these teams, get an idea of what's going on where we think they are right now. Some of my favorite shows of the year I like, I like stop watches, like I like the timed element. I like the fact that every team gets covered. So Jaguars fans, hey not a lot of populately, we got you covered. And this is a

studio that's um prone to bloviating. But guess what when the clock when the clock strikes zero three minutes on every team, what happens, Ricky, Hollywood that that doesn't mean celebrator party or fist pump. Not to mention this is this will be the first episode in months where we don't spend at least ten minutes on Dave Gettleman and the giants. So that's that's like a positive. Well we think that he could find uh for sure? All right? Do we want to do anyone? Dig right in? Alright? Patrick?

Are you ready? I'm ready? Do we want the takeaway at the top or at the end? Top you spend it however you want to spend it. Okay, I for me personally, and I'm just gonna say I will build to my kind of takeaway, but you feel free to take it. It is your three minutes. Well really it's your thirty second preamble second preamble, so and you're gonna start, which is different for the utility gap and leadoff. But I'm all about it. Baby. There we go. We get

that money, plug and play utility guy. What else? We got six Men of the Year, another sport? Give us something hockey? I don't know. All right, Ricky, are we ready? You're on the clock? Important role for Erica too. I got some butterflies. Here she sounds confident. All right, all right, here we go. When I when I say around the A f C and forty eight minutes, and then I'll say, go, that's when you start, Patrick, and that's when the clocks go. It is time to go round to the a f C.

The Tennessee Titans. When I look at the Tennessee Titans, oh wait, wait, wait, wait wait, you chose your order of your own making. Why no, you don't have these? You're gonna seven take few. We want to see the starter and let the guy in the leader in the on deck circle get used to the action. Here. We're gonna start with the a f C East. And I could have made that more clear. I certainly could have, But that's kind of tradition as well. M okay, okay,

around the A f C minutes starts. Now go, it's new. It's a new day, kid, Miami. The Dolphins have a plan, and I see Christian Wilkins going to them in the first round. And then, of course nobody's paying attention to that because everybody's wondering what the quarterback situation is going to be. They are able to use a pick in the second round, to trade with New Orleans get a second rounder back. They just move back, so they have

they still have their two. They have thirteen picks next year in draft, which everybody was all excited for, and now they have Josh Rosen and now they have a future. And I'm sorry, by takeaway to the Dolphins fans who were so all about tanking. The Miami Dolphins are trying now, and I'm glad because tanking sucks. That's my ta. I never really believed that they were tanking in the in the same kind of full throated, totally committed way that

the media seems to believe that they were. Like I believe, yeah, they're stripping down and they're they're trying to play for the future. But I even think the front office and the coaching staff is trying to win games right now, Like what are the moves that they made that are really trying to lose? They're just trying to be smarter than they were before and get rid of the old mistakes that they had. Looks to me like they backed into not tanking. They planned the tank as much as

any NFL team can tank. It's not the NBA. You can't really tank in the NFL like you can in the NBA. It doesn't even help. But then the Cardinals came calling with like, yeah, we'll give you Josh Rosen for a deep, deep discount. They're like, maybe we want tank after him. Rosen is Rosen fits with tanking. No, I mean not, don't. There is no tanking in the NFL. There's playing for the future and setting yourself up as

best as you can. That he's the fascinating part of this now because I think they were on the track to three and thirteen, and perhaps they still go three and thirteen. But if Josh Rosen signs, shows signs that he can be the guy, and that he's under contract for three years and I think six million total, which is great, that is a great spot for the team to evaluate him. But he's really gonna have Rosen will

have a challenge. He's got to knock the socks off the Dolphins to not use a high pick on a quarterback. I think the takeaway that I got from was we've been in purgatory for so long and we've been decent and halfway decent. The only way to make this work is to tear it all up. And you have all of these fancy names like something ball and all this other ball, but it all equates to tanking. If losing is the goal, it helps you accomplish what you want,

then you're tanking. Yes and glad with a new coach that they're not taking because we saw the Cardinals do it last year. We saw no plan, it didn't work out. Everybody got fired. We saw the Jets try to do it with Todd Bowls. He messed around and won too many games, almost messed up the bad They're able to get Sam Donald, it all worked out. I don't want to see this with another coaching staff and another team.

I think they might understand the that they have to take a step back to and eventually get out of that seven and nine. But if they have a good coaching staff. It's the NFL, it's not the SEC where there's that big of a difference. I mean, I know it's not a great roster, but DeVante Parker, Kenny Stills, Laramie tunsil Kenyan Drake like there are worse. They're less talented teams out there. That didn't sway me in any of the Buffalo Bills. Chris Wesley, what an off season

this is? One of my favorite off seasons in the NFL and the reason why when I look at all of the teams and what they've done, I think this is your offseason champion in terms of net talent acquisition, projected, snaps lost and snaps gained. Who have they lost outside of Kyle Williams, who they didn't want to lose, I mean he retired, But every other person they lost they cut because they didn't want him anymore. And they've gained by my account, about twenty players who will make the

team probably tend to tend to twelve starters. That's an aggressive rebuilding of the roster for a team that showed on defense certainly and in the quarterback position. Josh Allen in spurts that they could be trending in the right direction. Do we tru we trust management? There? You're saying I trust what they've done and that they had one of the most barren rosters in the NFL, and we're winning games because of good coaching and a pretty good defense.

But their offense was incredibly um what's the right word, spartan scatter shot like their quarterback on the verge of being historically the worst offense in the history of professional football. They were able to say alvit that late in the season, but they were all time bad and then, as you know, Dan said, Spurts Josh Allen made things better. I think you see an organization where the GM and the coach

are on the same page. And mc dermott, if nothing else, I think he has a type of player, a type of defense. He has an idea of what he wants. It's whether they can do it on offense. Because they have Brian Dable there who did some okay things. The offensive line looks so much better. I mean Mitch Morris, Cody Ford, who was a good value in the second round. Quentin Spain was a free agent pickup Tightness Nasheky from Washington's had some good moments like that's a whole new

offensive line. On paper, it looks pretty good. And we saw it play out in the top ten of the draft, where we knew that the Bills wanted at Oliver. So many teams were interested in at Oliver, but they didn't make the trade and they traded up in his past, but they were able to hold Steady. Saw some turmoil at the top and the guy that they falls right to them at that ninth pick. So yeah, I'd like Nossure and they needed someone to kind of build the

defense around, and maybe he's he's that talented. I'd like to see you have this running back situation shakes out. Leshan McCoy obviously is right now the starter, but they're going get Devin Singletary in the third round out of Florida Atlantic, who was supposed to be a really good player. You already got t J yelled, and you have Frank Gore and the roster. It feels like the other shoe is gonna drop there soon. Yeah, I wonder about Lesha McCoy.

He's he's a big factor if he's on the team, and I know they say they're not cutting him, but he didn't play well enough to keep his job last year. Where is he at this point as a player? Is? I think he played pretty well for much of the season. I actually thought he was he was explosive. He had the average three point two yards pera when you watched him, I think he looked pretty good. They they haven't invented an explosive three point two yards per carry. I'm sorry

the offense was miserable. Alright, my new York Jets um Quentin Williams. They stay put put and they pick him number three overall in the draft. And it was a safe pick and potentially one that could pay off big time because Williams can really ball. He's not the only Williams. Oh, so you've got Leonard Williams also on this defensive one. He was the sixth overall pick. Uh in two thousand fifteen,

I believe fourteen or fifteen. Uh. Henry Anderson, a guy who was really impressive last year for the team, was a difference maker on their defense. They brought him back. Uh. You also have Steve McClendon there. He's kind of like a hold the fort veteran guy. But you added especially with the two Williams and and Greg you referenced it

on our draft recap, the new Williams wall. The potential of this Williams wall, this interior defensive line, it could be potentially dominant, dominant, and it works on two fronts. Quinnin Williams has this great monster potential and Leonard Williams, who has been a steady producer for the Jets but maybe has not reached his full potential. Well, now he's with a real stud next to him. What can that do?

And the last thing, Greg is it gets me excited because we know it's one of the tropes around Tom Brady. He doesn't like the pressure in his face. Well, now the Jets have a potential uh to have one of the best internal defensive lines in all of football and forty two you your old quarterbacks don't like twenty something guys chasing them down and giving them the ruckus. And yeah, maybe they can figure out how to, you know, make him hold onto the ball because he gets rid of

it so quick and their line is good. But the Jets do get the Patriots twice early in the season. That's the time to place to play the Patriots. I think they play him twice in the first six weeks. And the Jets do look like a team if they can get the offense on track quick enough. Greg Williams starts fast like that's kind of the Greg Williams m o is. His defenses start like a house of fire and then they slowly collapse over time as maybe the

message wears off. I don't know what it is, but that's the pretty well down the stretch last fair trying to figure out why they didn't add more at cornerback and outside linebacker to this team. Those are like that in the right side of the offensive line. Are the three questions I have about the Jets. I normally have a lot more questions about the Yeah, they didn't address center, and we'll see if that's one of those um pickups

that happens in the next month or so. More Claiborne, who's still out there by the way, right Claiborne, and that the doors opened for him to return potentially. So this is by no means a finished product in New York. But I'm just talking about I get excited about this defensive line and it would have been nice to have that guy off the edge to go nuts. And maybe the third round pick uh does that for them. But

the Williams Wall Patrick claib I like it. I like the Williams wal There's a lot to be excited about. There's also a lot to be worried about between Greg Williams and Adam Gaze. And just to embrace that the potential for disaster, I've embraced headlock watch and people um they play up the New York things. If New York like has different air or people consume calories differently. But if it's to go south, it could go south anywhere. It could go south. Miami. We got a triple on

your jets. That happens sometimes every every defensive linebing you draft, interviewed after the draft says I can't wait to sack Tom Brady twelve and four Patriots. Greg. My big thought and take away after this draft is on the side of the ball no one's talked about all offseason. There's no defensive coordinator, and there's not a lot of juice in the front seven. I'm torn because on one hand, they're coming off arguably the greatest defensive performance in Super

Bowl history, but by some metrics. But is their secondary good enough to kind of make up for a whole hum front seven which lost Trey Flowers. They drafted John Williams in the second round. They love these big corners who can play multiple positions. They have Duke Dawson, who didn't play a snap for them last year, their second round pick added to mccordy e Chung, the other mccordy,

Stephon Gilmour. It's a great looking, uh secondary. There's some sort of analytics, you know, talk bubbling up that the way to build the defense is actually the secondary first is more valuable, and that you can scheme up pressure. Uh, and that can be less valuable. I don't know if that's why the Patriots are doing it this way, but they've it's very rare that they've had this little juice in the front seven. Wait, you're worried about the defense on this team? I mean, I think they're gonna have

to have. Are they any worse than last year? Well, that you lost three Flowers, You're but Michael Bennett, You've got Michael Bennett. Uh, You've got donte Hot Towers a year older. You're bringing Jawan Bentley back who missed almost old last year. You know, if you're telling me Dietrich Wise, Larry Guy, Mike Bennett, donte Hy Tower, and Kyle van Noy is like an above average front seven, I'm not buying. It's so. And what you're painting here is that Trey

Flowers is better than Aaron Donald. That's the picture you're painting to me. No, I'm I'm also, you know, mildly concerned. There's not a coach, or not many coaches on that side of the ball. I don't know. I think they want to play things a little closer to the vest and they're gonna be a little bit more of a running team. You can't you can't expect their offense to be nearly as dominant, and by the way, they weren't nearly as dominant a year ago. So you need the

defense to be really good. Is the secondary that good? It might be actually might be the best SEC outside of Trey Flowers. What is a concern about this defense? They played really well from the rush, pass rush, and pass and run stopping neither which they were like great throughout much of last season. They finished super strong. You sell like a man whose underpants are so dry, so arid. It's a desert down there, and you don't even know what to complain about. Well, we've talked so much about

the offense all offseason. I just I'm just stop buying. This guy is falling on the Patriots. Though I don't think it's falling. I have more want to introduce the idea, can you win with like a dominant secondary and h ho hum front seven? It is kind of the way the Patriots and they do that. Yeah, that it is, So where would you where would you put the front seven, like just pure talent for team No. Not in the

top twenty in pure talent. If you give that defense to a random team, I'm not in in a random game planner. I'm not trusting that front seven. I mean, concerns about the Patriots coaching staff is something I would never hear. I thought I would hear on the show. And I don't turn about the I'm talking about the past, like who's their best one on one pass rusher? Michael Bennet. So just if he named anybody defense recordator, you'd feel better, just like a name, justif the a f C North Division.

Let's do that with the Baltimore Ravens, a team that people got it concerned about the order that's all about the um in terms of well, what's the future with Joe Flacco or are we gonna be? And now there's a plan. There's a plan for the Baltimore Ravens, and it seems like speed itself is the plan. They're able to get Hollywood Brown in the first round, a guy a lot of people thought was the best wide receiver of this group. He can fly, and they lose for

Ell Suggs on the defense. That sucks. That's not good. This guy has been a big part of the franchise at Cornerstone. So they lose one all time n C double a sac artist, and they get another and Jalen Ferguson. They're able to get him in the third round. And Jalen had horrible workouts. I went to his pro day at low Tech. It was bad. He couldn't turn. He gained a lot of weight to try to, you know, prove that he could be a certain thing. It didn't work out. Uh, he couldn't move at all. I don't

think that's going to be a problem long term. And for the people who were concerned about Baltimore trying to run triple option and single wing all last year, it's like, how what can Lamar do? That was something Lamar had never done either, and so he was in his first year in that situation. And they take two wide receivers right off the top. They get Miles Boykin out of Notre Dame as well as Hollywood Brown guys that can move play in different spots. I don't think they're gonna

be the same team there. It was It's almost as if Um and this was Eric to Costas like first, this is my show draft. Uh it was almost a shot of critics. I know it wasn't, but it can. It feels that way that you guys think this Lamar Jackson, he's not somebody that can light things up with the arm and be a big time passer. Well, this is how much we believe. And I'm we're gonna invest the top of our draft board in giving him weapons to

build that part of his game. I mean, if he does develop as a passer, look out, this guy is gonna be legit. They have about what twenty five years of history in which they're of the quintessential black and blue bruising team, and I think it's interesting that they're going with speed now that you playing on a grass field, that's gonna be interesting. And I mean they were a different team you're I mean when Lamar Jackson took over,

we haven't seen a team quite like that. And I still think they're going to be very run heavy, but run heavy in the way that any one of these guys can take at the distance. That's what stuck out about Boykin Brown and Injustice Hill their fourth round running back. If you're into the whole spark score thing, that Rodor World loves right about these guys are all like top two percentile Sparks scores. Boykin, I think had one of the best combine workouts in history, and Justice Hill wasn't

too far behind. I don't want to blow up the rest of this. Uh what does SPARK score again? I'm seeing this a lot. What stands for something? But it's it's basically a measure of freakish athleticism. It's espencial, essentially a combination of all the different combine athleticism scores into one big number. Did you know that Terrell Suggs's sack record was broken by So it's not just yikes, Okay, get it. Spark is an acronym that stands for speed, power, agility, reaction,

and quickness. I did not know that. There we go. You learned things you already know, things that reinforces things Wes your former love the Cincinnati Bengals. You know about get going right, you know about the Dalton scale, but there's also a Dalton mirror. What tell us about this?

He's the one quarterback who's perfectly reflective of his surrounding talent at all times when it's the best in the league, Like when John Harbor and Bill Bullion said the Bengals had the best roster in the league in two thousand fifteen. Andy Dalton makes his way to the periphery of the m v P discussion when he's gone, well, um, when the roster is depleted, the entire team and the quarterback is simply an afterthought. And I think you could say

they're surrounding talent. Now, if Jonah Williams can stick at left tackle, or if they stick Glenn at left tack, one put him at right tackle. If he can stick at tackle, this has a chance to be their best offensive roster since two thousand fift get an approach that level of success, you think. I just think there's too many question marks. The two fifteen roster had answers. This one just has a lot of questions. Well, to me, A J. Green is not a question. Tyler Boyd's not

a question. Corty Glennett left tackle, if he's healthy, that's not a question. That's a huge question because he isn't even played well that is, but at least it's a talent. Tyler Effort's a big question. And then mixing, mixing and g oh, that's not much of a question. This is a pretty locked and loaded I'm with you skill position group. Yeah, the offensive line is the question a lot of people when you see John Ross and his lead up, that's

a question what he's had, people said. Even still, if you put him in this twenty nineteen draft class, he probably he might have been one of the first wide receivers off the board, just based on the things that he could do, not just based on speed, because there's plenty of people that could run, uh seeing glimpses from Ross, but just the surrounds, the surroundings, as you mentioned it,

it's just a bad situation for other people. And did they have a plan to address is out there that say he can run routes that they say he's an actual receiver and not just a speed merchant. Bengals don't see him part of those truths though they didn't with with keeping him necessarily this offseason. Well, it's just what

are they in love with? Mm hmm, Zach Taylor, I mean the Bengals Duke Taban, they committed to it seems like the loyalty they have a J and it's just like, well a J is so good, Like what do we I guess we just keep him. I think they're defining trademarket loyalty. Their backfield is interesting. Uh. They have mixed in of course, and Joe Bernard has been there for a while now. They added somebody in the draft and Trayvon Williams. Uh is everyone safe there the current cast?

I think so. They had to cut Mark Walton, the guy they drafted in the fourth round last year to play running back, because he got arrested three times between the end of the season, and like the middle of Orange can't do that. Uh, loyalty is a good word for it. They have more drafted players on their roster than any team by far. There's more homegrown guys. I think it was thirty nine. It was like six or seven more than any other team in the NFL. And alright,

the Pittsburgh Steelers. So, all right, Pittsburgh, as we know, did something very un Pittsburgh like on Draft Day. They traded up. They got Devin Bush a tenth overall. It is their first pick inside the top ten since who Troy Palamon. No, they moved up to get palm All. I don't know if Black Scob Burris all those years ago anyway, Um so Bush, he's supposed to be the Ryan Shazier replacement, and god knows they've been looking for

that since Zer went down with that terrible injury. Uh. They've used seventh straight first round picks on defensive players. Um elsewhere from that draft. So they turned Antonio Brown into Deonte Johnson uh, Toledo wide receiver at a tight end Zach Gentry. We'll see how that all plays out. It doesn't jump out at you on paper necessarily. But

here's my question. Have the Steelers done enough after last year's disappointment and disappointed for Pittsburgh's relative because nine six and one, I'd love to see a nine six and one uh for my team. But with the Steelers, when you missed the playoffs, it's bad and they were quiet and free agency as usual, they trade their best player. Uh. Is it? I asked, is this still an a f C powerhouse? And if that's a fair question, it's the first time you could ask that in quite a long time.

I don't think they're a team that you put it in ink that they're going to make the playoffs, whereas I think in the last they were that team. I think they're I would put them in in pencil so it can be erased. But a guy like Deonte Johnson, I read that the Steelers had a first round grade on him, and I'm sorry. I trust the Steelers wide receiver evaluations over any draft nick for anyone else in the football community. The loss of Chaisier was something that

they never were able to recover from. And during this entire run of dominance, it's been this offense carrying things and as bad as the relationships were on that side of the ball, they still produced and it was still the defense that was chiefly responded. Blake Bortles goes in there and they scored forty five points. Levian and Ben and Antonio did everything they could so they could, they

couldn't overcome with Blake Portle's lead offense. Uh. And so my question is is Bush enough to get you there? And they've gone so long that Dan brought up without picking highly in the draft, if that's if that's enough, the defense is better, But is that enough to overcome the fact that they lose a guy that's potentially go into the Hall of Fame if he didn't make too many writers mad um and he's going either way. Yeah, they've been terrible drafting in the secondary. They feel better

about it now. They added Mark Barron, who we haven't talked about it all, was probably gonna start for them inside linebacker along with bush Um. They there To answer your initial question, Absolutely, they're a contender. I think they were last year. I mean they were last two games of the year. They beat the Patriots and lost by a play like power against st Yes, I would put them. I would put them with the Chiefs and the Chargers and the Patriots as the teams where I'd be surprised

if they don't make them. Then, Mike Tomins, this is a big let's move on. Next up, Greg Cleveland Browns. All right, We've talked so much again about the offense on the Browns, and it was a quiet draft for the offensive the brown So I just wanted to like look at the defense and think how happy Steve Wilkes might be. I feel like not a lot of Wilkes

pop coming off a pretty tough season. If if Wilkes can come to get you know, if Wilkes can coach up this team and he's been a good defensive coordinator before, Like, where does this talent level match with the rest of the league. Because to me, Myles Garrett, ogun Joby, Sheldon Richardson, Olivier Vernon. They added uh, you know, Greedy Williams. In the draft. They four of their first five picks were on defense, to a group that had Curtsey, that had

Denzel Award, uh, that had a pretty solid secondary. A nice trade they got with Damarius Randall. T J care Like, this is deep. You go up and down and you don't really see a weakness out of this defense. And to me, there's a real chance that their defense is as good or better than their offense with Baker Mayfiel. They're feeling the moment. You can tell that John Dorsey though Dell Beckham trade, he's feeling the moment. He's got the quarterback, he's got the city behind him, he's got

the football world behind him. And now he's trying to get Gerald McCoy too for his deep right, that would that would be something else, and I think he would make sense on that team as kind of a one year that like if I was trying to find some sort of weakness here, I don't know. I guess their safeties and maybe their secondaries, not offensive line. Oh you're talking about yeah, yeah, just on you you're right, Greg, Well, Greg Robinson starting at left tackle stands out. I agree.

I think the biggest challenge, and this is not insignificant, will be expectations and what and what's going to be expected of a team that for years and years was a total laughing stock. And even last year, um entering the season, you know, hard knocks and all that they were, people were still laughing at the Browns. This this will be a totally different experience. Uh. And Freddie Kitchens, I think is a huge piece of this too. How does

he handle it in his first year? But I agree with all you guys, this is this is such a good roster and everything's pointing in a very positive direction. Brown But it's a new coaching staff. Even though Kitchens is there, it's a it's a reminder it is a new coaching staff. The offense. I mean, you got they added Todd Monkin to to Freddie Kitchens. To me, that's a huge win defensive coaching staff. Who knows, and perhaps that might be it at a certain point. You have

a lot of chefs. Uh, you got some really good ingredients. Well that was the last that was the problem with the last person. Well, yeah, that was a lot of chefs like trying to use the same night, trying to poison each other. But there's a couple of them successful. Um, I see a team that on the topic of expectations, these guys are expected to win individually, um from Odell two miles to like a lot of guys across the board one on one situations, you expect them to win.

And so I don't think expectations are a problem. Is just how they're going to execute and what the results might be, what they do and who's how much is better Baker gonna be? And I endorse that statement. Now move on, alright, alright, let's let's pause. You got nobody sees the Jarvis Landry Odell Beckham Junior friendship fallout that's coming over targets. Nobody sees it, but it's coming. Mark my words, all right, but you see it's coming. How

does that all right? I am right currently marking your words. Mark the words. It will get off. They're not gonna like each other anymore. Now they're gonna hate each other and it will tear the cocker room apart. Um. I want to talk about something serious though, guys. Uh, you

know a little pause here. It could be a little frustrating, especially if you're in a hurry or running late to find yourself at a railway crossing waiting for a train, and if the signals are going and the train's not even there yet, you can feel bit tempted to try and sneak across the tracks. Well, don't ever know. I want to show of hands here and including Erica behind the glass. Has anyone done that the gates down the train? You know acceptable time for the gate down train thirty

seconds for me. You start going past that, you hit the minute mark. I'm sitting there like, no, this is my time. You're messing with here? Who's done it? Be honest? Done what? No? I just said? You got? You drive through the around the gate because then a lot of times there's not even at least the ones I'm thinking of that I go through daily, you can't even get

around it. I've made a lot of bad decisions in my life, incredible string of bad decisions all throughout my twenties and thirties, But not once was I tempted to gamble on a train smart West, because that's a bad thing to do. Trains are going a lot faster than you expect them to be. They can't stop. Did you know, Patrick, did you know that when they when they conduct there hits the brakes on a train takes how long to stop? Give me a distance? I mean it takes a mile?

Bro straight up? Whoa, that's a long way anyway. So don't do it. Don't be cute. If the signals are on, the train is on its way, and you you just need to remember one thing. Let's stop, just like Jervis Landry Nodell Beckham when they're sniping back and forth over targets, the Freddy Kitchens. Stop. You know what trains can't right. I see you guys at the seventeen Street station in Santa Monica jumping over the tracks and making my son

want to do it. It's not worth a bad example, but that is a terrible stern talking there every weekend from Dr Money thousands of tonus, Dr Rainmaker. All right, let's now dive back into it. Let's go around the other half of the A f C. Starting Patrick Claybourne with the Yes a f C South. I'm all fired up about these Tennessee Titans. Um starting right off with

that first pick. Jeffrey Simmons It tells me something about John Robinson and Amy Adams drunk and what this team struggle and how this franchise is going to position itself. They're playing the long game because Simmons might not be able to play in two thousand and nineteen. Um this is a guy that might not even get on the field until himself at the start of all season preparation getting ready for the draft. He tears his a c

l um and they've they're committed to the future. That's that's only something you can do if you feel confident in your ability to still have your job. Um. So they are able to get a J. Brown, They've got an opportunity to get him Money Hooker, a guy who a lot of people felt could have gone higher. They get him in the fourth round, a defensive back of Iowa. Um So they have value in this draft. And people think, oh, you know the same old Titans. Well, it's hard to win,

it's hard to win football games. They've been in contention late in years and and there's just that little something and Jeffrey Simmons might be that guy. Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks said, five years down the road, if somebody says that Jeffrey Simmons was the best player in the twenty nineteen draft, they would not be surprised. I think

that they're permitted to the long game in Tennessee. Well, they won five games over a course of two seasons in fourteen and fifteen, and they've won nine per season since. But you look at the defense and you don't see other than Durrell Casey guys that make a huge difference. So Simmons hopefully can be that for them, even if it's not this year. Well, I look at that offense, like you said, they went nine and seven, and out of necessity, they leaned really heavily on Derrick Henry down

the stretch. They just didn't have the firepower in their passing game. And since the end of the last season, you welcome back to Laney Walker, who's a Pro Bowl tight end and missed virtually the entire season. You add an excellent slot receiver in Adam Humphries, and then you add a j Brown in the second round as a playmaker, and this Mariota has got probably more weapons than he's ever had. I think there's no doubt about that. We've talked about it a lot Mariota how important this season

is for him, Ryan Tannehill right behind him. I wonder if Mariota could can afford a slow start in September, how long would his leash be if the if Tennessee got off to a slow start on offense. I can't imagine him getting benched while healthy almost at all, maybe until December, you know, unless things really went out off the tracks. But that that's just me because I just don't think they'll see Tannehill as like some savior, and nobody does. It's not like there's gonna be some massive

fan clamoring for Ryan Tannehill anywhere. To me, it's more just a smart plan for the eventuality of Mariota missing a game, which seems to happen at least you know, once a season. Well, it sinks. It sinks playoff chances when he misses a game or two, because they traditionally had some of the worst backup quarterback play in the league. He might be playing for a new contract, though I'm not totally sure he'll be on his team next year. This is the final years we are overdue for some

more trash takes. Patrick clay Von all Right, let's move on to Chris Wesling and his favorite football team. I know you're gonna this sounds like homerism, and it sounds like I'm biased, But when you look at the rosters in the NFL, I can point to the Colts as the only one where I can say I don't see a weakness. And not only do I not see a weakness, I don't see an important player who's not in his prime.

They don't have a single player in decline. Marcus Hunt is the oldest starter, and he's coming off a career year in which he flashed dominance for games at a time. That's an interesting way to put it, ball shared, you know, but you're right, it's it's your ball shared. Also coming

off one of the best seasons of his career. It's uh, it's really interesting to me that you're now not only just embracing being a Colts fan, you're like getting ahead of us accusing you of homerism, like you're from Indianapolis, you wear the hat. Ten minutes ago, you called the Steelers a powerhouse team and did not name the Colts as an a f C powerhouse when the Colts have a much better roster now, just in there just cults lest is like pulling up the banner like wild card

win or two. I mean, yeah, tell me what's wrong with the roster. You're feeling different definitely when they scored three points in Kansas City or and since then they've added let's see justin Houston, Devon funches about six incredible athletes on defense. Um, they're they're forced to be reckoned. Well, that's the thing about having great success in your first season is it's so hard to get continuity in the

NFL that that's like instant continuity. You have the same coaching staff, you have almost all the same players, and that's like a great window to go make some no before anything gets broken up. Our boy, Evan Silva, the big fish over at Rodal World, handed out one a grade um for the draft in the a f C. And it was to our friend Chris Ballard. Silva is a tough grader. And you know what that is. That

tells you two things. One that somebody has plugged in as knowledgeable as Evan saw the moves that Ballard made, you know, moving up and down the board, maximizing his assets and and and pulling in a great hall including Rocky of Sin come to Las Vegas the second round pick at thirty four, and also how ballard stock is

just so high. People give this guy the benefit of doubt because of what he was able to do last year, especially the way that those draft picks played out, and so a lot of the guys you look down the list and it's like, oh, we'll rock you Sin. I'd like him somewhere else, but Chris Ballard likes him. Oh well, yeah, this is great. This is a great draft. So there's

plenty of reasons. So we's a team with no and it's way too early to do prediction predictions for the season and all that, but a team with no discernible laws, you have to be looking at them. Even in a very competitive AFC South, you see them as a heavy favorite to win that division, right, I absolutely do. I think the Texans are just treading water and the Cults are getting a lot better. And I think the Titans got better than the Texans got. It's a really good division.

I think they really hope the second round pick Binagu works out because they don't have edge rushers. I mean, justin Houston should help there too. They could add a running back to a veteran running back sports real original next Shawn McCoy, perhaps us that willould that hurt you. No, I would not root for the Colt tip Leshan McCoy was, all right, Well that is that I'm being I cannot root for all right, let's move on to the Jacksonville's Jaguars finished last place in the UFC South last year,

but everything is looking great now for the Jags. The Raiders made that surprise move. It for um uh taking um cle Cleland Farrell keep forgetting the name the Giants course take Jones. So then the Jags get this absolute stud Josh Allen falls into their laps at six, they grab them. It's been it was another positive and what's been a big season of positives, offseason of positives for Jacksonville. Everything about this team west and this is where we

need to talk about this. To me, everything about this Jaguars team screams big bounce back season all enjoys. The defense, loaded with talent Nick Fole, should stabilize things behind center. The offensive line is very good and uh running back, maybe there's some things to work out there, thank you. And I do not see I I on their offensive line. Okay, which I think is easily the worst. I don't maybe not easily the worst because of the Texans, but it's

one of the worst in the AFC. Okay, barring injury or some type of internal discord or West's viewpoint on the offensive line is correct. Uh, this team to me screams eleven and five and a hard out in January and an absolute um competitive for that a f C South title. I think the offensive line is an issue, and I think playmakers in the passing game is an issue. They had some of the worst wide receiver play in the NFL last year. Show me the tight end. Who's

gonna make a play on this team? They they need a little juice and you're counting on Folds and de Filippo to generate it. And that's the most important part of any team to me, is their passing game. And so that's the question. I'm not worried about the offensive Like Kim Robinson's a great left tackle, He's not he got hurt from He's a He's one of the ten or eleven best I think that doesn't have left tackles. He's solid. Jowahn Taylor at thirty five overall from Florida.

That's another guy you can plug and play. I'm worried. I'm a little worried about there. It's some someone's gonna be a huge disappointment in this division. Last year was the Jet because they're all they all have a lot of reason to believe their playoff teams. Cam Cam had a solid rookie year. He struggled in the playoffs. He had that shoulder injury of James Harrison was giving them

all kounds of work. Uh in the Patriots game. Um, but there was a noticeable drop off when Camp absolutely last year and so now they they had j Wan Taylor. A lot of people thought he was the best tackle in the draft. Um, they're able to get him at thirty five, and rookie tackles almost always struggle before they turn it around. Yeah, but he doesn't have to play. He doesn't have to play on the left. Camp can can handle that. You can start out on the right. Others.

You know, the reason to feel better about the line than last year for net is such a big, big factor because you know, you take a guy that high, you think he's going to give you a huge advantage, and he was not even league average. You know he was below average as a starter, so it's like, what Leonard for Nette are you getting? Normally, I'm not that concerned about the running back situation. Figure like the team around it's more important. But in this case, like he's

such a wild card. Absolutely, So you're trending everything negative for the Jacks and everything positive for the culture. No, I'm not. The Jaguars have a very strong defense, and I like the quarterback. I just don't mean question mark, what do you like at wide receiver, tight end, an offensive line on these two regular I had answers for everything you just said, but we're out of time. Sorry, West, moving on to the kids City Chiefs. Excuse me my mistake.

What a fool to Houston Texans. You know I just said that one one or two of these teams gonna have to be a letdown. It's a tough, tough division, tough out of division schedule. Could it be the Texans? My biggest concern is just how important Titus Howard and Max Sharping, their two first picks in this draft, are to this team. So this is just a team that needs their first two picks, both on the offensive line. Howard will play you know one of the tackle spots,

sharping the guard. They need to come in and solidify it. And I don't have a ton of faith in that, just because the coaching has proven to not be able to coach the offensive line five years running. So you're counting on rookies, and you're counting on guys like Will Fuller to stay healthy and Lamar Miller and and there's just a lot of questions where if something doesn't go right right at the top, then it gets ugly fast.

This seems to be the popular pick. If when you are saying who's gonna be the disappointment, people seem to be pointing at the Texans as that team. Um, they've been fairly consistent in the Bill O'Brien era. You've been really really they had one bad year, yeah, of kind of playing up to their potential or near their potential. So it would be a break from how they have been under this current regime. He he has four in five seasons, he's out a winning record four times, and

they're coming off in eleven win season. So I don't blame them for you got you have Deshaun Watson. You're gonna think that you're in the mix as a big time contender. Well, I think when you have the Shawn Watson and DeAndre Hopkins, J J. Watt, g Deevion Clowney, those guys can carry the team if they get hot, they can carry the team for for weeks at a time. So I don't write them off just because I think

the Colts got better. I just think the Texans are about what they were last year and it might not be good enough in an improved division. And we've seen them hurt so many times that I think that aids in the perception that they're thin. It's like, oh, they're always one injury away from going to the tank. Whether it's cooler to an extent, going down really hurt the offense last. But they are thin at the skill positions.

You know, they have Deshaun Watson and DeAndre Hopkins, and then after that, Fuller is the third best skill position player and he's heard a lot and then the four who is their fourth? A lot of teams right now, yeah, I guess it's Lamar Miller, But a lot of teams right now have four or five six different kind of weapons. They don't really have that sort of depth and looking at the tackle, they take Howard out of Alabama State early, um and people see him as a project tackle. What

if they don't see him as a project tackle? But I don't think they. If they have a plan in place for him, he's not going to do a whole lot out of his outside. The perception was that how he rose and banged him by trading right in front of him and taking um Andre Andre Dillard. So Titus and he's from a small school. Maybe not the same level of prospect, but maybe he's a star. If he's backing up Sean Trelle Henderson, They're going to be disappointed

if Matt Khalil is starting Week one. Just in general, he's special, almost a little bit forgotten, how specially is with all the emergency quarterbacks. Alright, last division in the a f C. Patrick Claibn, get us going with the hometown Chargers. All right, I'm gonna pay a picture for you, guys.

A weathered Philip Rivers sits on the field months after a loss in Gelette Stadium, the eventual Super Bowl champions, already celebrating yet again as he watched from the field, thinking of his actual vengeance plan, an army of his own children set about on the destruction of all of New England. He's in the Satesler chair waiting for one button, his signal. He'd soldered it onto his helmet communicator months ago.

He could usher in a new age, an age where the chaos was replaced with order injustice purged in the pursuit of honor, a ledger of failure wiped clean in a sweeping success. But as he reaches for the button, a hand reaches down to him. It's Tom to LESCo, standing there with Thomas Davis and the seer Adderly. He says, one more job, Phil, one more ride, and that's what this is for the Chargers. One more ride. Interesting, let's

do it. So there's you believe And that was beautiful by the way I mean I had to get around plase Um. You believe there's an urgency in that building, and I feel like urgency would be something. Patrick Claybann is not big on the idea of this team, knows this is the time that can end up a trash take. But is there an urgency around the Rivers led Chargers at this stage. I I feel, through the acquisitions and the guys assembled on the team um that this this

is the shot. This is a legitimate shot, I believe. I think everybody has seen what this team can do. There's no reason not to believe. And what's the future. It doesn't matter what the future is. Future is now. But they're on line. Was their their biggest problem down the stretch last year, and they really didn't address that at all. They took a third round pick Trey Pitkins, didn't do much in free agency, and so that's my fear. But to what I was saying earlier about continuity, it's

hard to keep teams together. And you're right, there's a lot of town on this team, and this feels like last year and this year is their prime time to get it done before all these contracts come up at Rivers gets too old or both to get you know, whatever it is. There's a lot going on to that same point that the Chargers are bringing back up a badass nucleus twelve win team, uh, twelve win team. And then you look at the other superpowers. The Chiefs are

going through a lot of stuff. When we're gonna get to them in a in a minute. Um, the Patriots, obviously they're they're trying to figure some things out. The Steelers. The window is there. The Colts, obviously, West are on the rise. But I'm saying the windows all about the Colts. Believe me, Yeah, that the windows there for this this Charger team, there's no doubt about it. Well. I think the defense got quite a bit better in the offseason.

The offense is questionable. They do get Hunter Henry Back, who was having a very promising start to his career before he missed last season. Then they also lost Tyrell Williams. Maybe that's a that's a push, But I agree with Greg.

The right side of this offensive line is the issue, and it was a major issue down the stretch last year when they went into town and in circling back to the Rivers children, I guess just as a representative someone that grew up in new you know wait, you got none of them are over eighteen, Most of them are under ten years old. We'll take you on Rivers children. Bring Those are the children you know about bringing words by a man about to be overrun by a bunch

of elementary school children. Wes move us into Denver. John Elway was up against it. He's been up against the last two years where it looked like he had to nail the last two rookie classes in order to avoid a full scale rebuild reconstruction, and after the two thousand eighteen draft class was one of the most impressive in the NFL, and this one looks to be pretty promising as well. I think he now has a chance to pull it off. Like driving a tractor through a needle.

I think he might have done it. It all depends on Lock and Flacco. But the roster looks much better now to me, and it did a couple of years ago. M hmm. How about on defense? That's what I'm saying. The defense isn't an issue at all. The only thing that needed to be reconstructive was the offense. The offensive line looks better to me. He picked up Juwan James and um the center guard they got in the second round Risner, I think to me, that looks much better.

Hopefully he's able to navigate Chris Harris's desires to paid um to the level of his ability um because if if he's able to be back um potentially a long term because being one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL not getting paid like it for several years, that's that's that'd be my only concern that it's a great point because we haven't really talked about Chris Harris's trade request.

They sounded like they wanted to trade him. I mean, it's very rare that John Elway that a GM is talking on the podium about how he's looking for offers and he didn't really get many calls this or that. They sounded pretty open, and I think it's to their credit that they're not it's going to give Chris Harris away, and it'd be crazy too. And he's coming off a broken leg, and I think that's probably White teams didn't

jump on a chance to go get him. And I mentioned the Saturday I'll say it again though, that I really like the Lock move Drew Lock in the second round um going up to get him and gives them a little bit of flexibility because maybe Joe Flacco is revitalized in a new and new surroundings and has a nice year, and this is a playoff team probably if

that happens. But if he isn't good, or if he gets hurt, which has happened as well in recent years, you now have a kid you could turn to and maybe he can play a little bit so you kind of doubled your chances. You're not boxed in at quarterback. Interesting team, the Broncos. I feel like they have a

wide range of outcomes this season. It takes the draft, and this is very true that the Broncos in this case for me to do at least now that I'm old, there like it's the time when I'm first excited, like I want to go see this team. Now, I'm excited to go see this team next year. Like the draft is that moment where okay, the rafters are together. Now I'm like starting to get ready to say goodbye to my family and and enjoy the two thousand nineteen sets.

Does Joe Flacco like that fire for you? Now? It's not really Flacco so much, although I'm curious, like I'm certainly more curious to watch him with Keenan. I'm with West. He was playing fairly well at the beginning. I don't think he necessarily is a bump if he's supported any other thoughts. I want to know what you guys think the Broncos. Are they gonna be a like eight and eight team? Are they gonna be a tenant six team? Six?

And sorry, I mean I could see tenant six. I could see six and ten too tough with the position. I see a squad that's looking for one giving me. I'm giving him all right. Let's move on to the defending UM Division champion, Kansas City Chiefs. Um. The Chiefs survived the loss of Cream Hunt even thrived without a Hunt Hunt. Um. But Tyreek Hills possible slash, probable slash, inevitable exit from Kansas City will really test Andy Reid. Uh,

and that that entire organization. Then again, there's this this other side of it, and and a lot of it starts with Patrick Gohoans his greatness and and are we just scraping the ceiling? How of how good this guy could be? Uh? And perhaps he turns the Georgia wide receiver hardman. Maybe he is instantly a Pro Bowl producer. Maybe that's how good Patrick Mahomes is. Maybe they did a good job in their scouting and bringing in a guy that can make an instant a plug and play

Clay Bond type. Um. The defense is undergone a very public makeover. Uh. The offense is shedding playmakers. But I still feel good about the Chiefs and I and I know there are a hundred reasons that you could point to why you should be down on the cheese right now. But Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, outside of Bell Chick and Brady Uh, there isn't another head coach quarterback combination. I trust more to see things through um rocky times and uncertainty.

And that's why I still think the Chiefs should be very much viewed as a powerhouse with super Bowl winning potential. I agree, I mean, and I would take in terms of schematic advantage and quarterback talent, there's no in betting right, I'd take Reading Mahomes over anyone. I mean, Read, it's just so clear has provided a game plan advantage against

his opponents the last couple of years. And Mahomes, you just listening to him at the Owners mean you get the sense Read feels like he's just starting that process of what he can do. The most important skill position player, the most important non quarterback in the NFL, according to Sean Payton and Drew Brees last year was Tyreek Hill

and the spacing he gives this offense. I I have no idea what me Nicole Hardman is going to be, but Tyreek Hill is is if he's not playing that's a devastating loss for them, And as far as an offense and being explosive, that was kind of a pitnacle right Like it's it's tough to think that they will be better than that in any capacity, especially if if Tyreek Hill is not there. But if they're anywhere close

and the defense is better than they're a contender. So that's that's the question defensive rebuild is going to have to take. And it doesn't have to make They don't have to be a top ten defense, but they have to be the middle of the road offense. And then it's up to Read and Mahomes and the rest of the coaching staff and who's there now uh to make it work on offense. I just what I guess what I'm saying is it's one of those popular buzzy subplots

of every offseason. This one, to me, one of them is, Oh the Chiefs are in trouble now and I get it, and West is absolutely right how important Tyreek Hill is. I just think this team is going to figure it out. It might take some time, but I just trust them too well. They need so panic is not on the menu for me. They need Sammy Watkins to to jump up make an impact. I kind of like some of the defensive moves they made, the very quiet ones the

oak for and Emmanuel Hagba and Bashad Brian. Just like getting guys in there that are okay enough for very little money. Keenan Allen still laughing at the second. See how important the scheme is. All right, close it out with the Oakland Raiders. Greg, A lot of times you need you hear people talk about, Okay, there's a big year for Derek Carr. They put a lot of weapons around them. Um, it's the new regime. He's got to prove himself this and that. How about it's a big

year for John Gruden. Like that? I to see can John Gruden adapt and be a two thousand and nineteen difference maker because to me, the roster that they have, there shouldn't be any excuses for them to be at bottom tier offense. Antonio Brown, Tyrolle Williams. Maybe it's on the renfro their fifth round pick as a slot receiver that's allowed to ask a fifth round pick. But either way, they're deep enough at receiver. They're deep enough at running

back with Josh Jacobs their first round pick. You have a guy in Derek Carr who's played a lot of games and now he's in the prime of his career. He's getting paid like it. The offensive lineman that they brought in are highly paid Trent Brown or highly drafted Colton Miller, or like all pro type guys like Rodney Hudson, Gabe Jackson's a very good like you should be a good offense John Gruden like and and I do have questions whether John Gruden is an advantage is an asset

in two thousand and nineteen. I think this year will give us a good view of that. I think this offensive line could be sneaky, trash. I I I worry if I was a Raiders fan. I was if I was a Raiders stay and I would be worried about that too. But they certainly have we Colton Miller can play, No, I mean he struggled last year. Are we sure Denzel Good should be starting a guard? No? I mean that's one spot that is definitely a weakness there. And I think this defense too, was not one draft away from

being good. They were two or three drafts away from being respectable. M They've They've put a lot into the drafts on on defense. You know, they get Cleveland Ferrell, they get John at the neighbor, and they get Trayvon Mall and that's three of the top forty picks in the draft on one defense. So like they're looking for an instant impact. This was not a one year rebuild or maybe even a two year rebuild. The question I guess I have is what would define success for the

Oakland Raiders in twenty nineteen. To have an offensive identity would be enough for me. And that might even just be being the middle of the pack, but that would be a huge improvement. And I think seeing some of these young players come through. How about finding out that Derek Carr is in fact a franchise quarterback. That would be a good year for the Raiders. Which would be crazy to have somebody be anointed as a franchise quarterback twice in their career. He needs to be re anointed.

We need to know and if he if he does not take it to the next level or he regresses, the Raiders are going to make a big play for a quarterback next year. So that's something to keep an eye on. I was thinking he's he is a candidate for the Dalton scale right now, because I don't think you're looking at Derek Carton. Stay made him the Dalton line one year, didn't we? I don't think so. It's always been Dalton scale, got it, Alex Smith, It's always

been you, and but Dalton is the one and true hero. Um. I will mention here because he's a man who's opinion we respect. Move the sticks said during the draft telcast that he sees Hunter Renfroese a guy they could plug in this year and get you whoa bros? You like sports? Real original? Next, there is no next. You please shut all talk and you just ramble on that no one gives a flying about Just shut up. That's fair. Why do you need to play a recording? Why can't you

just say that into the mic? Um? All right, good job, great job. That is it. We just went around the a f C and exactly forty eight minutes close. It was a fun Patrick came in here, we plugged in and he played well. He did more than play well. I would like to think you got on base. He went first to third on a single, scored three runs. Just let me be six Man of the Year. He swung at that first pitch of the game and popped out the second. But then after that you got on

base twice, even a nice play in the field. Shortage of bodies that he didn't have anybody else to put in, so I had to stay in the line up, and you know I produced later in the game after the initial failure, your regular Zach Duke. I mean, that didn't work for a variety some just inflames. It's just some Cincinnati Red's relief. Sure that that I'm like worried about his safety. Zack Duke's safety, not West's. Other West is hard at He's not gonna be on my radar soon

because he's gonna be cut. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell Emily to stay home for Western Lakisha's wedding, which is you know this month now, um well, effective tomorrow, and bring Zack Duke as my date, just to see what I don't I don't hate the man, he just doesn't belong on the Red. And then I'm gonna get Zack nice and drunk. He's a middling relief pitcher, former top prospect of a pirate's way back when years ago, and now he's a hot and cold middle reliever that West

hates with the heat of Idellian burning sun. I don't hate him, but the man is carrying like an e r A of about eleven and the league is hitting three sixty off of him. He probably belongs in the minor league. This is what I would do. I would for the No One wants the Reds podcast. I would bring him to times was the best man at his wedding who that caps mats another reliever of Nationals fame. But bring him very nice man. I have no ill

will towards. Team you up with him, get you nice and liquored up after the wedding, which I imagine happen like hanging out on and then you and Zach Duke team up in cornhole, all right, and then and then you'll change your opinion on the man. I like him, I just don't like on my team's roster. When you gotta get find a good partner after the losing streak that you started on, I'm not worried about it. Cesster not even here to defend himself, and you know he

won't listen. I don't think he would have defended himself. I think there would have been a barbed shot back, which is my prediction. Um, all right, Patrick, thank you buddy, Thank you guys. We'll be back on Thursday with Colleen Wolf. Yes, the great Connie Fox sitting in the Mark chair. Uh to go around the NFC. A lot of pressure to live up to Patrick's well and play is Terry Rosey're a good enough Now, let's do it. He's playing well in the playoffs when he's been. He plays for Boston though,

which sucks. But yeah, you know, he's more like a Vinny Microwave Johnson instant offense any Green. I think late stage the Microwave is on like my six man Hall of Fame. Yeah, all right, that's enough. This is ridiculous. All right. This is Dan hands Is signing off for Patrick Clay Band, Patrick Microwave, Clay, the Mailman, the old Boston, Ricky Hollywood behind the glass Juel Thursday. Well, I'll come. I had a lot going on there. M I had a burp that was coming up and I couldn't get

rid of it, so it was stuck there. And then the frog. The burp and the frog. That's a false start. You can survive one or the other both at the same time. As I would take one tooting a crossfire there. I can't do both