A-Z NFL Offseason Glossary

Be Around the NFL Podcast. We're too old for this show. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis to come to you from a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Settler, Greg Rosenthal, you know what I'm getting too old for and welcome the audience. I hope you're an excellent What's today Tuesday? While you're in the middle of the week. Now, by the time you hear this, it might be damn Wednesday.

Monday between shows. We did a Wednesday night show. It's pretty rare we go this long between shows.

But I'm getting I gotta saga. I'm getting sick of this remote life enough. I feel like at a certain point you have to ask questions in our own company because I think everybody else is back in the office now. It feels like the Around the NFL Podcast is the only one that's being kept now in containment. And I believe we're all vaccinated. I feel like we're able fellows. And Ricky Is she's a nice girl. I mean, what what am I missing here?

What I think some fact, some factual accuracy is what you're missing. I don't I don't think the offices are crowded at all. They did start the process of saying, if you are vaccinated, fill out these forms, you can start coming in on a voluntary basis. But when you watch the shows, there's literally no one in the newsroom. And now they're actually pulling back from the studio shows. I think because they're preparing to move to the next way.

Colleen back in the studio last March for a Saint Patrick's Day show. I'm just saying, just let's let's keep an eye on this, because we might be being quietly phased out of the company. I see using COVID as a kind of a shield. The shield, using a shield to shield us from the reality that we're soon to be it is.

It's a complex plan that you're suggesting, but those cut those types of plans two exsis in our society, and you're you're sort of saying that we went we created, not we, but the powers that be created an incredible distraction by putting the world into a pandemic scenario simply to close offices globally, but the target being to remove our small group from the NFL Media Office.

Now I didn't look at it that way.

You take it to the Sessler. Yeah, that was a Sessler level here. I could imagine this scenario where like we we just keep taping these shows remotely, and we think we're putting them up, but actually, yeah, like the checks start stop coming and they stop going out. I don't know, and we're not even aware of it.

And they're paying Erico like seventy five dollars extra a month not to tell us.

And we find out that like mister f is Abot, like anyone responding to our shows on Twitter and through various platforms are simply you know, computer creations. For that they were real people, but they've all been they were actors.

So you know, it's when there's like an alternate reality that's created and you're not aware that you're a part of it.

An alternate reality.

We're in a simulation, a simulation Marks Mark's fantasy basically what Mark it assumes we're in at all times, and lately, you know, the last year is kind of like proved him, like he might be onto something.

And then my secondary point is, and yes, it's very important to be vaccinated. I hope everyone's doing that. It's it's good for the world and good for our country and being safe. But I came very close today to starting the show without pants on, and I noticed it right before we started. I ran, I put in some shorts. And when when we're at a point where, first of all, I guess it shows that I'm comfortable with you guys,

I agree with you.

I know well, I know you, I know to feel, and so I know what will happen to me. Mark will just be tugged to the next phase with no say at all. So it's like, what what this is basically the last eleven years? Just agree, just go along with it because I have no say. I actually am wearing a bathing suit with a blue and white flower printed all over it.

Feel great, prove.

It, prove it, prove it.

Speed speed out he is, he's telling me, and it is a speed and there's.

Not a lot less.

It is not that we don't need.

Let's up with all your Europeans out there, the listenership still doing the speedo thing. Let's let's get it a little more baggy. Let's let's leave more to the imagination when you're at the beaches.

That's a course correction that's needed. You're right about that. Why is that?

How did that come out of the seventies? Still intact?

Okay, so good stuff, good conversation, good Bruise, No Bruce, Bruce. Soon when we have some time off. That's not here yet. Today's show is glossary of terms. And I was gonna say the off season edition, but it's not quite the off season anymore. Greg, you're good at this. You're you're always hopping all the internal conference calls to show your face and make quiet connections with shadowy league figures. What what do you call this portion of the league calendar

This is absolutely the off season.

It is the off season, even when it's a new league year.

I mean you could call it O t as you know OTAs in mini camps, but yeah, this is the off season. This is like the heart of it. Okay, May to July.

They're going to get rid of that though they're going to figure out a way. They're working on it already. All right, So this is the off season, so it's the off season glossary of terms. So we're gonna go a through z just touching on everything in the NFL. Gall and we'll take turns with the letters and anybody have any questions. I feel like we're on the same page with this, right, Yeah.

I always assume that we'll see.

Yeah, I don't know how we're wrong, but right we didn't totally talk it out ahead of time. So I'm looking forward to jump seeing how we all interpreted it.

Should be fun, should be fun. All right. We'll start with Greg Rosenthal. The letter A Glossary of terms. All right.

My my term for the letter A is apoplectic, which is a word that will describe Mark Sessler on the night of September twelfth, in our new podcast Studio, as we watch Andy Dalton start at quarterback for the Bears against the Rams.

Oh, so you think it's happening? What do you what's out there? What are these sparrows slash aggregated report reports slash beat reporters telling you right now, Greg, when you reach it, well.

That you know that word also it means like extremely angry and furious, which is definitely as we already heard, maybe gonna be Marx feeling about going back to the studio. In general, it's not Sparrows. It's Matt Naggy's saying Andy Dalton will be our starter. That It was my instinct from the beginning, and I don't think what he said last weekend was that important. But I still believe they're gonna give Dalton a chance because they'll look at the two of them and they'll see if they can just

Except that we're ignoring like what happened, like so many preseasons, blow these mid May comments to bits. I mean, if Andy Dalton is Andy Dalton functional, low ceiling, but certainly the capable starter, and justin Fields is like getting the crowd going and doing electric things like Okay, we can say whatever we want, but he's gonna start way sooner than later.

Hopefully the only way, Yeah, the only way Fields doesn't start week one because it's not just about energizing the fan base and giving her chance a better chance to win. Give me your team a better chance to win. Matt Naggy and Ryan Pay's is trying to save their jobs, and I feel like anything that's that has Andy Dalton behind quarterback, that's a sign to me that Justin field summer didn't go so well, which is something we can't predict.

It happens all the time. This is the guy, you know, they did trade up for him, but he was ultimately the fourth quarterback taken. It happens all the time for a week or two, you know, a couple of weeks. I just I just can imagine this week one scenario, you know, lucky we will be taping the pod maybe during that time, but like of all of America being annoyed by the Bears yet.

Yeah, here's the Matt Naggy logic at play, which would be terrible. But we love this kid. We don't want to put him in a too tough a spot in his NFL debut. So time time Sunday Night week one, let's get him out of there even as soon as you got Week two home against Cincinnati, then like, if you're gonna start a week two, just start in week one. I don't know. I think he's on the field.

I would like to see Andy Dalton have at least a drive in that Cincinnati game, if they're up, where he just rips down the field and shreds the Bengals to pieces.

It is interesting too, because Cincinnati is filled with Justin Fields fans, you know, so either either they're going to be rooting on, you know, like our our friend Phil Westling who joined the podcast to his brother Nick's dismay, you know, like there's gonna they're either gonna be like rooting for Andy Dalton to die, or they could possibly be rooting against, like, you know, rooting and seeing Justin Fields slash their team, which would also be painful, very Bengals.

I'm looking at the schedule again here at LA home since the at Cleveland, So maybe if you want to ease ease them in week for home against the Lines, Week five on the road against the terrible Raiders defense, maybe that's what I don't know. I hope one plays out all right up next the letter B, Mark Sessler.

All right, B is for Baker and the Browns. Will they live up to the hype or do they only operate when pandemic spreads?

Was it all a hoax?

Now that we all have micro chips in our arms? Will someone flip a switch that turns us all into nuclear winder zombies in week ten and none of this will matter? Game pass becomes a memory? Uh oh?

Is it interesting glossary here? Because it's it's you know, usually it defines words, and here it's sort of like it's a question asking glossary, like questioning the meaning of these words.

That any of us? Yeah, put that together? I certainly didn't. I just said letter thing to talk about, didn't go any deeper than that. You know, Mark your Baker. I understand where you're coming from. We did a show a couple weeks back where it was around the AFC and Patrick Claibun had the Browns when we hit the AFC North, and he kind of put a question out there about essentially not calling Baker out, but basically putting it out there. Is Baker, I see the guy here? Is he still

In a drive in this in what I thought was maybe his finest moment. I mean, he played great that week. I mean he played great that game. He you know, it is a little loss that he was going toe to toe Patrick Mahomes and yeah, Henny came in and that obviously helped, and they were it was an uphill battle, but he made a lot of special throws it down the stretch and especially in the two playoff games. So I think for Baker fans, it was nice for him to play that his best when it mattered the most.

I think though, if that twenty nineteen season had been replaced by you know, one that built on his rookie year, and I think we forget his numbers in his rookie year where he didn't even start the season, were pretty remarkable. He shattered the touchdown record, which you know happened again with Justin Herbert, probably will happen every year. But I mean the twenty nineteen season things went so south, and

You buy into what someone posts on the Instagram is the exact thing they're actually doing in their private life.

Yes, I do, with no questions asked.

What are you talking about? I need some backstory here. I don't know what you're talking about.

Oh, speaking of Instagram, we are at nineteen point nine thousand people on the Gram. We're just shy twenty k. So please the ATM podcast. What was your confusion?

Greg? I misunderstood your bit your joke. I got it now.

I got to know also doesn't look at people's Instagram stories because he finds that to be invasive, according to past comments he's made.

So I do you.

I don't look at them because I think they're invasive.

You made some sort of comment about along those lines in the past, which I.

Think was more yeah, yeah, I'm just I don't desire to. But it's not because I found an invasive It's just like a lot of you know, for the most part, it's people you don't want to know about their lives. You know, there are there are some exceptions.

But good thing is you get to choose who you quick click in with that particular app twenty K everybody, we love you, and also get us to London if you can hashtag get ATN to London. All right, C for c ya, which also means cover your ass, which is Teddy Bridgewater.

Are we jamming him into another show?

You know, it's funny, Greg's I'm tired of it. I thought you were going you thought you were going to avoid this. You looked at the week of shows and you said, Okay, Teddy bad Mouth is old coaching staff on the way out the door, and it fell after our podcast on Wednesday, and then we had a network show Friday, and then.

A weekend and we did a network show.

Yeah, maybe this will sneak through, but no, this is something we should talk about with our podcast audience. Here's what Teddy said on Patrick Peterson's podcast. One thing we didn't do much of when when I was there. We didn't practice two minutes. Really, we didn't practice red zone. You walk through the red zone stuff, and that's Saturday. You come out and practice red zone, but you'd only get like fifteen live reps. Guys's reps would be limited.

Wait, you're the one that was so fired up about this, sending like give me a over a text, like give me a break with this guy? Who does he think he is?

Well, that's what I totally think that. I think it's a terrible job by Teddy for to say anything on the way out the door, just because he's doing a podcast with another player to be negative and not having the savviness to understand that was going to blow up as a story. I was disappointed that Teddy, who otherwise has a sterling reputation, made those comments public because ultimately all it does is cover up for the fact that he was an absolute disaster in the red zone and

Yeah, but we're doing like the sports radio thing where you take out a minute of a forty minute conversation. I listened to it because I love Teddy. It's one of the reasons I'm a fan. Like of him as a person. You're a fan, Yeah, he's smart and I like his perspective. I think, first of all, he prefaced that with about two minutes of saying all the things that he did wrong that he told them he was a big boy. He kind of knew he was gonna get dumped after that season, and he totally understood it.

Hold on, hold on, wait a minute, back to bus up just a few feet please, because number one, no matter what, like if we just cut the conversation there, it's Teddy Bridgewater's great, he's interesting, he's intellectually stimulating. Those are all nice things, But like, why if you're the quarterback of the team and if all these other players, if you're saying all these other players understandably, would be like, why are we not practicing this?

Did Teddy Bridge take it to the hold on? Hold on? Did Teddy Bridgewater take it to the coaching staff?

Or did he did he stay silent when he would love to you know, it's a new it's a first time NFL.

What if he did, you wouldn't know that? Are they going to listen to him?

What's to say they wouldn't listen to him? I mean, like when we talked with Matt Ruhle, he had nothing but ultra respect for Teddy Bridgewater, you know, and there was clear admiration. It's not just some foot soldier you're not going to listen to on any level. Like why not raise that complaint when you come out of week two or three realizing the red zone offense is half broken.

We're all adults here, Like can't we be big boys and like speak honestly about things. He wasn't being personal. He was talking about on the everyone media.

Why with the coaching staff.

I don't know.

Pat doesn't mean that it's truth. It's his side of the story, and you're just taking what he says and just running with it and saying everyone else as a child for having anything critical to say about your boys it at all.

I'm saying perspective, like, I don't think he thought it was like the biggest deal in the world. I don't think Matt Ruhle did either. They're like grown men who are just talking about their profession in ways that we do too.

I'm sure Matt rule was it rolled right off his back right.

Now to our producers, with every complaint that we have when we're talking amongst ourselves or whatever, and take full responsibility.

Wording at I see what you're doing, but it's like you brought up our show and our producers. We do have issues sometimes with our producers, right, and if they're actual issues, it's never something we say into a microphone. We talk about it privately, like I don't I don't know, it's it.

Just podcast flaming our producers. And then Greg's like, well, we're all just being adults and out in the open. It's like, actually, that would be a terrible thing to do to the people you But.

The point is I'm saying it wasn't flaming if I honestly believe it. If Matt Rule like listened to it, and maybe he did, he wouldn't like they're gonna be like annoyed by this. But like of all the things, I'm sure they did have many conversations that were much more like He's like like, if.

You're a grown like, you're putting your the way you look at things onto Matt Rule, right, soults, but you.

Are now, I'm not saying that. I'm saying like, I don't think it's like. I don't think it's something that Matt Rule is up at night worrying that we're flaming him. I think the sports media probably was a lot more upset about it then all right donuts. Donuts are one of the many food stuff the Eagles would trade zach Ertz for.

Right now, I think you're right, Mark you you lost a sandwich prop so not a donut, but a sandwich with your you led our sandwich prop segment with a draft on a zach Ertz's trade bomb still hasn't happened. I guess nobody wants him Greg.

Yeah, I mean he had a tough season. I think they're hoping that something happens. He is holding out or quote unquoe. It's not holding out. I shouldn't use that term. It's all voluntary he is not going to the voluntary workouts with the Eagles. Just not a surprise, but about eighty ninety percent of most of the teams that started him did show up. So the whole like voluntarily opting out of the offseason thing is not working for the NFLPA.

You know.

I maybe Jacksonville, like you know, pre Tintibo, the Indy for nothing.

Like Indy has plenty of caps face. I would think maybe he'll end up there.

I kind of doubt when someone like Ripe knows Ertz and you knew him in a better time, and I think Ertz was banged up last year in ways that we just you know, oh he's got this injury.

He just did not look healthy to me in a bad offense.

All right. The letter E mark all right.

The letter E is for Erica aka Ricky Hollywood, who will file our E entry by proxy if she hasn't drifted off to sleep, whether she is.

E is for Etti en the jag you are second pick in the NFL draft.

He did all his work at.

Wide receiver in his first mini camp this week. And did you know that he was used heavily as a receiver at Clemson with who which quarterback?

Trevor Lawrence, the now QB for the Jacks.

The letter E and also also E for England, which is in the UK. And I need to apologize to many of the Irish listeners who are very very upset that I included it when I said the UK, I misspoke. I said when we were over there, because it's so easy and quick. It's the same thing of going from New England, you know, into New York. While we're right over there, I want to go to Ireland as well, so I apologize.

I know that Ireland is not part of the UK.

There we can shove anything we want into the entrary which flexible history.

Is indeed rich, Ricky. But thank you for coming clean on that. And also yes, I don't know, do you guys put anything into attend the team of Aten playing wide receiver at all? Or is this just urban Meyer and people getting excited about a new era of Jaguars football.

I thought Meyer was basically saying, let's use this extra time that we have with these rookies to get him, you know, practice at a position that he typically wouldn't always be at.

I mean, look, they he's.

Urban Meyers already on the radar of so many fantasy people because the first comment was we've drafted this guy in the you know, in the high up in the first round, we're going to be a committee backfield with a bunch of Jabbroni's and Travis etn And then now he's playing wide receiver. I think you've got these people trying to draft for dynasty scenarios with their hair on fire and probably avoiding them all together. But you know, if he can play, he's going to play a little

Are you great?

It's also like what are they what running are they practicing at rookie mini camps? But what anything are you practicing? I the people that actually go to these things that I trust and read about almost all uniformly said they learned their lessons over ten years that there is virtually nothing you can take from these mini camps. Like JaMarcus Lazo looked like the best player ever. Other guys have looked terrible and other than like injuries and just little

You bring up JaMarcus Russell and you know, we're coming off a year where Isaiah Wilson, first round pick of the Titans out of football, now one of the great busts ever. But to me, Russell's still the biggest one ever and still the best story is when they gave him a CD and said this is the playbook, and then he came back to the campus or to camp and they asked him about the playbook and he said, oh, yeah, yeah, it looks good. I'm ready, And they had nothing on

His diligence.

That's the old about our podcast once a year. I liked that one. It reminds me something similar, just made me think that there was a story this week and how Jed York, even the owner of the forty nine ers thought that John Lynch he, if he had to guess, he thought they were taking mac Jones. And it got me thinking, I think they pulled like a JaMarcus Russell thing on Jed Yorke. It's like there's a little bit of a reason here, Like there was no leaks and

The letter F is for Fried's Squirrel. Raven's rookie guard Ben Cleveland at the combine, a reporter asked him he looked a little trimmer then the last time he was seen in public, and he called it part of his squirrel diet. And of course people go crazy about that because you know, first of all, eating squirrel that's pretty hardcore. He's an avid hunter. He hunts all type of game

Uh?

Here's what Cleveland had to say. I mean, it tastes.

It tastes like squirrel. I mean, I don't know how to plan it to you.

I would imagine a nutty flavor.

No, not really.

Now, some some squirrels, like down south that will take like in South Georgia that will taste a little bit more nutty. But I mean up here they are are like acorns and stuff like that.

They're not really.

As strong as the ones down south, so you know, most most of them up here they I mean it tastes like squirrel. I mean, I mean enough, do you put enough seasoning on it? You can make it taste like whatever you wanted to taste like.

But I should say that was from the Baltimore Ravens The Lounge podcast. You know what, I guess. I don't know, man, I don't think any of us actually know. None of us are hunters, But I know there's a whole cross section of our country that is. But it just when you hear a guy like that, you see a guy like that, and you see what he's talking about. An NFL locker room is an interesting place. It's got a whole lot of things going on in it.

Yeah, I mean yes, Like there are actually different levels of men that you would probably find on like an NFL podcast for the most part. And I would just say, you know, your city squirrels, Dan are probably safe. I don't think those are the squirrels that you hunt and eat.

They probably not taste.

They would taste like you know, zinc and like car pieces. But like if you're if you're in the deep woods, I would imagine and I don't even I wouldn't even choose to eat it. But you could cook up a squirrel with some spices and some side foods and make it taste.

He's a survivalist.

Offensive line definitely gets a different type of guy than let's say, like the edge rushers. Like I don't you know, it's a different it's it's often ah, it's a very different group. I do like it is. I do think about when it comes to eating animals like the more because everyone sounds, you know, sounds grossed out by eating a squirrel, and yeah, that's probably my first reaction too.

You certainly a conversation piece.

It's like, once I'm gonna eat one animal, it's like.

I guess eating any meat wise.

Well, the most regular thing I've been ordering this yak chili from Terra Himalayan Cuisine about once every three weeks during the pandemic. It is delicious, and that's pretty that's pretty weird. Gamey, gamey a little bit, Yeah, tasty, really gamey.

Why would game sound like?

That's usual? What people say when you hear that, it's.

Kind of like, have you ever had a like buffalo meat or whatever? Kind of like that.

I had some alligator down in know Len's that tasts like alligator chewy. Yeah, yeah, not something I would do again. How about you? Mark and then your past?

Maybe no I don't know. I can't, I couldn't. I'm not.

I'm not going to like dazzle you on this on this front. I mean, I still find it odd that like people put on top of pieces of oats, you know, like the breast milk from a two thousand pound cow, and find that to be something.

Right, everything, everything seems a little crazy.

Yeah, right, I do. Like when Mark starts talking food, it sounds like an alien talking about how humans act, all right? Or the letter g greg.

Oh yeah, well you gotta go with the ger Man.

You know.

That's it's a nick that that is a nickname created originally by Chris Berman and popularized by someone called the new old Daddy of Zeusser that helps to make one of the most annually boring NFL teams sound more entertaining.

Oh what about this year they got a little juice.

Yeah, they seem like a little more fun. I was hopeful going into last year didn't pan out. It's it's been a long stretch where the Giants have been pretty intim I would say, I mean, the last four years in New York football is wildly terrible.

Another Gido is Gettleman, who I think you know at least changed some of the you know, easy jokes around him at the draft by doing what no one thought he could do. And like their offense is interesting, I would be the most concerned about their offensive line.

They didn't really add anyone.

They had issues last year and you know, if you put Daniel Jones behind the line, that's not protecting them goodbye.

I think I think it'll be fun to watch you. How are you Dan thinking about the nickname the new Old Daddy Zeuser, because you might have a branding problem. You've got all these different nicknames and it's like you need one to stick above the rest.

But this, well, you're you're contributing to trying to muddle my brand, which I don't appreciate. But the new Old Blue Eyes is something that's really taken off and that's kind of grabbed the imagination of people, and that's cool with me. I you know, this is not really my call. The Old Zeuser, I think, is the standby. That's the one that's you know, people know the most. And you know, Big Daddy Rich is also just in the mix, and that's out there and some people like it, some people don't.

I didn't even know that I had a big in there, and I.

Don't think so. Maybe I had it big, but it's it's Daddy Rich. It's Daddy Rich in honor of Chuck Daily. That was a Chris Westling. He threw that one out there as an option. I always liked it. It just didn't take.

I'm sure Chuck Daly is honored to find out that you've gone in that direction.

Chuck Daily is not honored about anything anymore, unfortunately, so a little bit awkward, but we're going to keep moving. Maybe his a state, his estate. The letter H Mark Sessler all right, H is.

For Harris Kama Naji, who was living in a dorm room in Alabama six months ago cooking top ramen noodle in a one man hot pot, but now must save a Steelers attack that was essentially stuck in carbonite for most of last season. I mean, I don't actually think he was eating out of a hot pot in a dorm room, but I do think he's extremely important to

But I love that they picked him up.

I think it gives them some spice and they are going to have to be run heavy. If Big Ben looks like he did down the stretch of last season, maybe is.

It a little bit underplayed to that point, it's a little bit underplayed that when they ran into their struggles, and I remember they started eleven and zero and then just went in the tank and got wiped out by the Browns in the playoffs. But like when that offense was sputtering, the fact that the running game was just stuck in mud all year, there was nothing explosive back there. Maybe they've diagnosed this and this is going to be a huge lift. If this guy is a big time player,

It's more about the line though. James Connor, you know, according to PFF's numbers, actually was pretty good in terms of yards after contact. But I think he among all running backs in the NFL, he was like hit behind the line of scrimmage more often, and almost every offensive line metric they had was a disaster. Now they do. There is a way you could squint and their offensive line could work out. It's very hard to predict. I'm

Wait, no one else ever said that to you before we started, mak.

So you just surrounded yourself with yes men.

Essentially, no, because I don't. I don't think of it that way. I do get anxious though, when there's too much of a consensus and the fact that the Steelers are like almost a touchdown underdog in Week one and

I with you on that, because I would say this, like I had my fun with the Steelers coming out of the out of last year just because it ended in spectaculary disastrous fashion. But there are those odds you mentioned are because the division they're in. If you put the Steelers in the NFC East, we're not having that conversation.

The public is so out on them. I've talked out of both sides of my mouth because ultimately, do I think the Ravens and the Browns are better teams? Yeah, I do, But I'm just not I'm not giving up on the Steelers mattering. I think they got a shot.

Couldn't the Steelers finished one game behind Cleveland or one game ahead of Cleveland, we wouldn't be that surprised. I mean, realistically, I think that's what the real environment is.

Their schedule first four weeks at Buffalo home Raiders home Bengals at Gream Bay. That's a nice We're gonna get a nice little temperature check on where they.

Are right depending on who Dream Bay is right.

Well, assuming Aaron Rodgers is there, the letter I is that where we are?

Yes, we got a ways to go.

Here, Irvin Comma Michael speaking of Aaron Rodgers. I could not let this get off our radar either. Let's just listen to Irvin talking about Aaron Rodgers during the schedule release show last week, and I'm amazed this was on TV. Go ahead, Ricky, and I'm gonna tell you something. One of the measuring sticks.

That I placed upon people that I meet when I'm engaging in any kind of conversation or business relationship, personal nation, I measured this, if you can fall out with your mama, with your mama, your mother, your mother, the woman.

That had to figure out what you.

Wanted, just from the noise that emanated from your body.

He's crying, Oh, you hung your baby, baby. Go oh, you gotta win Bike that if you get cut.

Off your mama, you definitely cut off genims on a football team.

I'm just telling you right now, hey, Ricky, we don't need to hear the Aaron Rodgers party again where he goes into the mama. I just want to hear that set up again. I just want to try to process that before he goes into a play one more time. And I'm gonna tell you something.

One of the measuring sticks that I place upon people that I meet.

That's the most fascinating part of this. For everything else is like a peak vintage. Michael Irvin is an awesome, crazy person, But I just like the idea that he prefaces by saying that any relationship in his life the measuring stick he uses about that person is I guess he does some deep research and he finds out what the relationship between this person and their mother is, and then he's able to then proceed forward or repel against any type of relationship. That's fascinating for me. How does

Erving It's a different way to go about your Your business matters, personal matters.

The measuring stick he didn't say the measuring stick is. You know, it's one of many, one of many factors. Yeah, that was one one example of why Michael Irvin is great television in my opinion, and another example of why and I wouldn't you know, throw Irvin as the only one here that the conversation around this entire Aaron Rodgers trade request. He's getting problematic, you know, it's just no one knows what's inside this guy's head, and a lot of people are assuming a lot that they really don't

I want an oral history on the pre production meeting before that show, Like, so Michael Irvin said, gos, this is what I want to talk about, Aaron Rodgers's relationship with his mom and why it says a lot about his relationship with the packers. And nobody was like, Hey, Mike, I don't know, man, I don't know. That feels really personal. We don't really know the situation there, do we might maybe we don't go on TV with that one.

Well, he probably he probably dropped that like an a bomb from the sky, and I'm I'm sure they knew that was coming.

Well, if you look at Kurt Warner's face in the background, right, it might have been gee, I mean, Jay from g.

Oh Yeah, I'm gonna go jugs machine. This is a football throwing machine that helps athletes in improve their ball skills. It is also notable for having better chemistry with Odell Beckham than his actual quarterback Baker Mayfield.

Not see that sniper fire?

So what is your what is the thrusts?

I just you look at the end of the book about football and here's the glossary, and you learn I don't know. I don't. I on one hand, I don't understand why they've had bad chemistry, and I don't fully I tend to think the numbers that are better without Odell and with them are partially attributed to other factors and luck and just randomness. On the other hand, they don't have great chemistry. They have not maxed out Odell Beckham there, and that's really important. See I think like

I would argue that it's another topic. We're killing the Rogers topic. Understandably that the are the Browns better without Odell Beckham has run its cycle?

I willn't go that way far, but they do need to have better chemistry. I would never say they were better without him, but can't they be better together?

But they were?

And the other thing is I think when when Odell Beckham is in there, it's Odell Beckham's offense from a what's the focal point, and when he's not in there, it becomes Baker Mayfield's offense. I mean, I could argue it's the CH's offense, but something about the only thing I clung to a little bit, and it's hard to put numbers onto just that. I think when your quarterback becomes the alpha, things take on a different look than when your alpha a wide receiver.

I don't know, like he.

Is part of it. I've heard a theory that Baker's height like that Eli, you know, served up these little slants over the middle, these short passes that Odell, you know, kind of these short passes that Odell can take a long way, and it's been a little tougher to generate those in the Browns offense. And does that have to do with Bakers? I don't know that who the heck knows. That's the thing is, I have no idea why this is the case, but it's still something to watch.

It's nebulous, but there's something about it that feels tangible.

That's the closest we've ever come to an Eli Manning compliment from Greg on this podcast enough to slants Odell Beck.

Go watch Eli Manning in the twenty eleven season, down the stretch into the Super Bowl. He was performing like a top five quarterback who reminded you know who. He reminded me a little of is how Justin Herbert played last year. Obviously not the athleticism, but he was. I want to just give some Eli compliments. Incredible under pressure and hitting low percentage throws that you just could not leave where. He had the cojones of a superstar. So there you go, and.

That twenty eleven playoff, the throat to Mario manningham was a a ninety nine percentile level throw in terms of skill level and difficulty. I wonder if Odell, if they just had a disappointing season and maybe had another hamstring, whether he would have been a more attractive trade option for Cleveland if they decided to go in another direction. But when you're coming off reconstructive knee surgery, that doesn't help in terms of evaluating whether he's a part of

Kay is for Kyle Pitts, the hot Lanta fascination. I can't wait to see him, you know, burning down the sideline on a ninety eight yard catch and run touchdown against the Bucks while he's pointing the entire time at an amused gronk on Tampa's sideline. And you know, while I say this to you, a little man named Barnesy Tops is already in his studio working on a commissioned bust of pits for Canton.

It's all happening. He's already been put in the Hall of Fame.

Greg, we've been very hot, Greg, Barney what was the.

Name again, Barney Tops, the sculptor works with bronze medals.

Barney Tops. Greg, you've been very hot on various platforms about the Falcons. Should not be in a rush to trade trade, Julio Jones. Let's see this offense working together I've.

Got more coming in the dictionary too, but I'm doing the Projected Starters series. They're out this week. They're starting to come out. I look at this Atlanta offense. You gotta have some things go right. I think there's a chance there are a top five offense. So what are we doing here? You know, what are we doing? I'm with you on on on Bronzie or Topsy? What's he doing?

Campaign?

Yeah?

Yeah, I put Julio in the Hall of Fame. And oh, by the way, Calvin Ridley is one of the top fifteen receivers in the league and is gonna shred single coverage that he sees. And oh, by the way, Hayden Hurst is the best backup tight end now in the league. I like Hayten Nurse a lot. Justin Gage is a pretty good player, like Arthur Smith if he's as good as we think. Man, this is a fun team. It's a fun team, and.

You can't learn everything just by looking at numbers. But go look at Calvin Ridley's number since he came into the league. That dude balls and he's just entering his prime. The letter L logos all right here, I have two things here. First, I'm gonna just do a quick top five best logos. This is my list. Don't get mad at me. It's my opinion. You can't take it from me. Five the Chargers, like the bolt for the Saints. Just feel that's I mean, that's New Orleans. What is it called Greg the Saints.

Thing, Florida Lee? What is it Florida Lee.

Ford Lee Florid Viking.

Florida de Lee the Saints.

But yes, right, but that's what it is.

Three Vikings love the Viking, Love that dude. Two the Cowboys just classic, it's America. And one the Raiders. But so that's my list. Now I want to seg from logos to mascots. Kind of cheating, but whatever. On Reddit there is a poster called el hashtag machilero, so I want to give him credit. Let's go through it. Fourteen animals for mascots. Five birds, three are carnivorous, one omnivore, one vegetarian. Nine mammals. There are four cats, two horses,

Edible four only four. I mean the humans are edible, sure, because there are more humans.

I mean a giant can eat a human, though that happens all the.

Time humans, it's human history, and there is cannibalism.

That's a real thing. Going to Viking for breakfast?

Can it kill an adult human? Yes? Twenty five, assuming a very high voltage charger, most expensive a jet, least expensive a charger double, a battery charger under ten bucks on Amazon, and goes on and on and on. Well, wait, good knowledge.

The heaviest was awarded to Titan. Is a titan, I mean more more than a jet.

Yeah, I mean he's a giant. Giant asked all.

Right, well, I don't know how what saw what where he's getting his Titan measurables fron, But I will say I believe I always knew thought that the Browns were named after Joe Louis, the Brown Bomber.

I was a contest. Others say Paul Brown.

So I don't know about nebulous or whatever they said vague concept, but I love the list it is.

Though, because there was a lot of mystery to it. I really think it was Paul Brown naming it after himself, and then he was just always super coy about it. And then at the end of his life he was.

Kind of like, yeah, maybe there was a contest, but he steered in a certain direction.

Yeah, I mean, all right, let's that's a good info.

I don't think the chargers are going for like phone charger, but I understand that concept too, like the Veloss Angelis phone chargers.

I mean that that is take.

It with l under underscore machilero.

Okay, well we're on We're on the topic. By the way. Here we just talked to a little Falcons. So m is for Mattie Ice a k a. Matt Ryan aka the Vanilla Assassin. Uh. This Falcons quarterback is uh my favorite pick as the best sneaky long shot to win the twenty twenty one m v P. You know so, so if if you're looking at those.

Twenty six touchdowns and twelve interceptions is going to do it, then that's not going.

To do it. But that was that was where I was getting at with these weapons here. Pitt's Julio ridley Hurst. I like Gage. They actually have some high draft picks on their offensive line. They've been average, but I think Arthur Smith is their biggest addition for the offensive. If everything goes right, they could be a top three or four offense. That's all I'm saying.

So, because I know you're excited about these Falcons, another reason why we should go over to London and see Jets vy Falcons at the Big Tot the Hot Toddy. I'm gonna set the over under at nine and a half wins.

I'll go. I mean, if I was actually putting money down, I don't know if I would do this, but I'm gonna predict they go ten and seven. I just like their offense, and that's that's what I want to root for.

You have to win m v P.

Right, yeah, so I'll go I'll go over and their defense looks like a mess. I'm not saying that, but if you can somehow find your way to a top five offense, you'll you'll. You know, talkings fans know this. Sometimes it's not all about, you know, winning the Super Bowl. I really do think people are too That's not what I meant.

G Greg, you are be very careful here, Greg. You are a Patriot fan. Are you sure you want to be making this point right now?

I think being a sports fan is more than just if your talking team won the Super Bowl at the end of the season. I think Falcons fans would tell you when they look back at the Dione Sanders, when they look back at the Michael Vick era, that those were like special teams that were entertaining and fun to watch and they didn't end up getting getting anywhere. And

That's a tricky good deal, especially you're the twenty eight three team, and there needs to be in my opinion as a sports fan.

Okay, you're six this year, like you can have value of having some fun and watching a for mixture.

Perfect example, the Knicks have not won an NBA title since nineteen seventy three, I believe, and at some point because I went through that in the nineties with the Knicks and into the two thousands, a lot of great teams, a lot of fun seasons, a lot of great memories of watching the games with my friends and families. You know, Alan Houston's roller against Miami, Larry Johnson's four point play, Patrick Ewings put back to put them in the finals

And what does that have to do. In the meantime, let's be entertaining.

That winning a super Bowl is not that important. That's that was all that it's important.

You're making the point that entertaining sports teams are more enjoyable than those that don't entertain.

Okay, I'll accept that.

Saying there's a lot of value in sports of teams that don't win the Super Bowl. You're TELLINGSA, what are we doing here? Then we're all miserable. Thirty one out of thirty two fan bases like thought that whole exercise is pointless every year.

But the PSA is coming from someone whose team has won like a billion Super Bowls. If it was coming from someone that had never experienced that and was saying, look, I'm telling you, it's still so much fun even though we've never we're a Jets fan, we've never won the Super Bowl in my lifetime.

I'm having a ball. It's all.

All that matters is the fact that they're you know, they're entertaining me every Sunday.

Vaguely. I mean, you have to.

Point you're all a team for years. There's value. I get what you're saying, or else, what are we doing? You've just if the whole point is super Bowl or nothing, you've just wasted like thirty years.

You know, it's a little bit rugged of a point to make about Falcons fans that's all of them specifically that they just enjoy I think I.

Think it's back and enjoy it.

But Falcons fans are loyal, like they've been through it all, and I think I think they would I think they would agree with this on some level because they have had these really entertaining teams that have made impact. I would throw the twenty three team unfortunately in there, like the Dion teams and victims that you know, they had their moment. It was fun even if they didn't win it all.

Listen, you didn't get that Super Bowl victory, but you had the too legit to quid era Falcon fans.

So dirty birds. You know that was a fun dance, all right.

The letter oh for o Tani hit it Ricky, Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, show Hellani, what show hey, show time all the time. That's a ninety four fastball. Try to sneak it each side.

Don't try to speak a fastball and against show hey Otani.

While while we as a sports culture right now obsess about Aaron Rodgers's future even though there's nothing really to talk about. And you know, whether the Charlotte Hornets or the Celtics make it out of the play in or whatever the hell's going on with the NBA right now, Like, there is a honest to goodness amazing sports story going on in baseball right now. And I know baseball is not the national pastime that it used to be, but people should plug in if you're actually looking for a

It's bad ass. I mean, it'd be like Chuck ben Eric is sort of famous as the last true two way NFL player. You know, back in the day there most of the players were two way players, and he did it at the highest level. He's a Hall of Famer, But that was what was that sixty years ago? It would it would be it would be wild. I do wonder if maybe we could we could, uh and you know, find an athlete that would be good enough to even play offense and defense both at at a high enough level. Like,

Yeah, I mean football just becomes so specialized because you do have that at the high school level, you have you have versions little or versions at the college level. But that's just preparing certain players for the pros. I mean, I guess you're if you're looking for like the most versatile type weapon.

We just talked about them.

I would look at someone like Dion Sanders, But it's not the same as playing quarterback and cornerback. Like it's they just don't allow in that Troy Brown are the coolest things that's happened in baseball.

Yeah, it is amazing. The closest thing we have in like the last fifteen years is like Troy Brown taking playoff snaps at cornerback for the Patriots, and Julian Edelman took some. They didn't try to keep there long. Troy Brown did for like a long stretch of a season for a playoff team. But that's you know, nothing like the Otani.

Thing is just like another I wonder you wouldn't do it obviously, Also for health concerned, you never if you had a star quarterback, you're not putting in playing them. You know, eighty snaps on the other side of the ball, so we're never going to see it happen. It's totally it's an apple and orange situation. But it just did get me thinking the letter p greg.

Oh, how about the point after touchdown? That's you know, the play where they snapped the ball and they kick it through the up there. It's a worthless play that should be abolished. That's that's the definition in the glossary right there.

So lose it entirely, get right. I did not like the idea of pushing it back and making it harder, because it's like, oh, let's make the kicker more important, Like I don't need that. So if that's if this is the way it is forever now, where you're losing games because the placekicker can't hit a thirty two yard or whatever, it is like, yeah.

Right, I need it. You get seven points for the touchdown, and if you want, you can go for an extra point that either adds one and makes it eight, you know from the two yard line what we call the two point conversion or subtracts one. If you don't get it and you end up with six, that's the way to do it. Just stop wasting our time.

I'm hooked on the fact that we skip the letter.

In you know, the glossaries.

You know, maybe we don't. Maybe it's neither.

Let all right, the letter n Mark Sessler.

Well, then I'm stuck going twice in a row, which is can concern it, but it's go.

I will go.

And as for Nelson, comic Quinton the thick bully man who operates as the key to a Colts off sense, sorry offense, determined to keep Carson Wentz from walking into sacks and flicking absurd lobs to the opposite team. Carson's man crush on Quentin will grow weekly as the three hundred and thirty pound ruddy faced manchild blows up defenders and offers to crush Greg Rosenthal like a minuscule grape when said blogger fires shots at Wentz inside his Week three debrief.

The debrief getting in the mix. Nelson is a he is not. He's one of many NFL people I would not want to be on the wrong side of. I feel like he'd be high on that list. You're right, there's a.

Very short list of players that are in their twenties right now and are Hall of famers, Like they have to maybe put together a few more years, but you just feel like it all they have to do is stay healthy. Aaron Donald's there, Patrick Mahomes is there. I think we're getting to the point where Quentin Nelson on the offensive line is there too, So keep that mind as you bury the Colts America.

I just want a fast forward of the season, like we're going to bury the Colts so much by mid August, I'll actually flip around and then be high on the Colts.

Don't know, of course we will absolutely.

Right Mark, since we're already out of order and we're on the Colts, let me do R and then we're going to circle back to Q all right, r in u ke we trust. Let's hear from Frank Reich Ricky.

Yeah, I just cringe when I hear stuff like that, not that not that a player shouldn't be accountable for poor play on the field, And you know Carson has to answer to that, and he and he has answer to it. And until you get out there and prove otherwise that that's what you live that's what you live with. But you know, I just know that playing the position at quarterback, there's so many factors that go into it. We've talked a lot about why the poor play last year.

You know what. I've been on this, dancing around this, but I will I'm officially going to be the guy in the show that I believe in Frank Reich. In Reich, we trust, he sees something in Carson Wentz. He's succeeded with Wentz in the past, and I think Wentz is gonna work in Indianapolis. And a big part of what part of it is Frank Reich. In Reich we.

Trust, well hold on.

So, I mean, there's no doubt in Frank Reich. I think he's a great coach, and I think they've got one of the better coach general manager combinations in the AFC, if not the NFL. I mean, and you can jump on the Carson Wentz thing, that's cool, But like we all liked Carson Wentz for a stretch of time too, and last year's not entirely on him.

But I thought he lost his way. It's not just the line and just he had.

I'm not arguing that, right.

Kenny rebounds, sure, But I mean, like I also feel like I'm cool just waiting to see it. I'm not I'm not gonna, you know, trump bit that it's going to happen because I think there are fair questions about him, and this is maybe a little too talk radio we too, but there were whispers tracking Carson Wentz that he just did not fit in with NFL locker room types, that

That's all I'm saying. I mean, there's You're right, we have we can't say anything definitively until we see it, but this is what we do for a living, and I'm saying that. I think that I'm still there. I'm on the Wentz wagon. Given the talent is there. I don't think there were theories that the injuries have sapped

But Dan, But Dan, like, the one thing that we battled on during the season last year towards the end was that you were not very excited about blaming Doug Peterson either.

So I mean, maybe it was just a total breakdown. Maybe it's unfair to blame one person or even two people.

I'm not necessarily blaming Doug Peterson because that's a tricky situation when your quarterback goes in the tank. I think he just needs a fresh start. I think it was just very messy the way things ended there. And maybe, yeah, maybe you're right, maybe everyone's right that this is not gonna work.

And and see it's a great landing spot. It's one of the better landing spots you could imagine for Carson Wentz, the best.

I think that's the best. But I guess my question would be what is what is working? I I never was fully in on Wentz. I remember having this argument and being on the losing side of it when when he was, you know, on his way to maybe winning the MVP because he was not that accurate. He's just

Okay, I think he'll be on the right side of the Dalton line this season, a guy you could still build around. All right, Mark, let's go back to you. Q.

Back to q Q is for Keish.

You guys might be a little bit too young to remember the nineteen eighty two smash.

Hit book that swept the nation. Real Men Don't Eat Keish.

It was a bit of a satire, but it kind of painted satirical essays about what masculinity really means, especially in America. But when I think of masculinity, I think of Ron Rivera. Obviously, I mean a former football player, Big Burley Man overcame cancer. Is someone that they brought to an organization that could not have been more troubled that Greg disliked for roughly thirty years with reason to

It's not the end. It wasn't an aberration.

I think they're going to grow more and more into what Ron Rivera wants and they're not going to be the team that gets beat up on Sundays.

They're gonna be throwing the punches, and.

They weren't last last year either. I think, you know, I think they're gonna I feel like they could be a nine and eight type team and that might be enough to win the division. I think it's going to be a tightly packed division, and I think you can make a case for any of the teams honestly in the NFC East. I guess I have a bit of a concern that fits in this type of situation. I don't know why. It's nothing more than a hunch that he could struggle, but who knows. Maybe he'll just keep

For sure, roster is great. I mean Ron Rivera chose well. Not only did he get all this power and he's not the first coach to try to do this in Washington, so we'll see, but he inherited all those defensive linemen. You know, there's a lot of talent on this roster. That's not like they brought in since Ron Rivera got there. There were players there, and they've done a really good

Yea.

Everyone wants to play for him, and I think brings stability and maybe right really raises their floor, which we saw.

I would say they did bring in one person in Chase Young, who is like the love child of like Beyonce and Cony and the Barbarian.

I mean, he's like a tipping point guy for that defense.

Good point, yeah, good point.

S g.

Oh that's me again. Yeah, oh wait, I don't know the whole alphabet.

Every time.

Every time you're confused, I'm gonna go. Seahawks defense a once historic group that has now been mediocre for almost as long as it was historic. Under the radar, I mean they made he made his reputation on defense, Pete Carroll. I went back and looked at the dv AWA. They have that top fourteenth in four seasons. Been in fourteen, you know, they were below average and three out of the four. So it's like, let's see it. It's it's been a while now. They're always like, oh, this isn't

So I guess, yeah. The case here and they didn't have a first round pick this year or next year is they've had now a long enough time gestation period to build the next quality defense since the lesion of Boom and they just didn't do it, which makes a bit of a liability and it puts more pressure on the offense to the fire on all cylinders, which it doesn't always do, at least it didn't last season, and that that cost them.

Football is hard. It's like it almost impossible to keep a defense. I'm not even totally blaming. I mean Belichick had a very similar career path where that was a historic Patriots defense for four or five years, and they've they've popped up here and there over the last fifteen. But it's like there's a reason why it's historic, Like usually it's not. If it's everything coming together. It's not just good coaching. I don't I think he's a good coach,

I did find it interesting last week that Richard Sherman or maybe it was two weeks ago, said that he would go back to Seeattle. I mean, I get he's looking for work, so there's that part of it, but it was this whole like, hey, these players just don't believe in Pete Carroll's culture anymore, and well what happens to that if you go back?

But I need the culture thing I bought into he.

Needs a job and they would fit in well they could use. That's a shot a shot.

And also, you know, did they go twelve and four last year? The culture can't be too rough now.

The culture I think is good. It just if they could one of these years suddenly spike up. They do have some talent this year and suddenly spike up and get a top five or six defense, then that's the year. I think, you know, they can make it to the super Bowl.

All right, Mark, as we start to bring it in for a landing.

The letter T all right T T is for Trafalgar Square in the city of Westminster and central London. All I want to know is if I and we are stepping foot in Trafalgar Square in the next calendar year, it confirms our wishes to be in London. We will be watching probably the Jets and Falcons if we have our way, I just you know we're gonna spice a little few pitches in here in the middle of the show.

I want it to happen.

I want to be having cocktails with handsome Hank and Neil Reynolds and talking to British fanatics. And if they don't send us, I will alert the company that I'm going to go anyways, I'll take a seafaring boat and you know, super dull week eight on my own and living like Kate Winslet's flat with her drinking rich wines and eating meats.

I'll change everything about that.

Not a factor and Mark's wife. You know. I got a call from a Shadowy League figure on Saturday morning. I was in the middle of my son's little league game, for which I'm an assistant coach for the team, and he said hashtag. I answered the phone. He said, hashtag get ATN to Culver City. Hashtag get ATN to Englewood, because that's the only places you're going, referring to our former office in our future office.

Wait, a very high ranking.

I will say we can beat this out.

Was it yes? Okay, to which I say, hogwash. We will not be denied. Shadowy League figures will listen to us because we will continue the fight to get back to London. We will charm the pants off these people if necessary. They might not even have pants song because they're working remotely, but we will work and do everything in our power on this side to get back to that side.

And by the way, hashtag back to Culver City.

You will have to kidnap me in the middle of the night in like a sack and take me off and punch me out to get me to Culver City. I'll never step foot in that office ever again.

The letter you for, well, Ricky, play it.

So what you're telling me is that UFOs unidentified flying objects are real.

Bill, I think we're beyond that already.

The government has already stated for the record that they're real.

I'm not telling you that the United States government is telling you that sixty Minutes is one of the most respected news programs and journalistic beacons on television in American and it's been that way for decades. That gentleman is Luis Elizondo, who spent twenty years running military intelligence operations worldwide, and then he eventually moved on to covering unidentified aerial phenomenon UAPs, which is another kind of like the updated

I think it's because, first of all, this is this report. This interview mimics so many other reports that have been going on a for years and years and years. But if you want to talk about like government reports and pilots, military pilots coming forward with stuff, this is not new except it there has not been the tipping point I think where it's still seen as something other than an oddity.

The swell of a story.

This has been going on for a really long time, and it's just that we, I think, live in such a period of mental frazzle, and the last years been so crazy that it barely breaks headline stacks.

But it's real. I don't think it's.

You're not a looney bin to suggest that anymore, because it's not coming from you know, people on crack websites. It's coming from military and ex military, and it has been for decades.

There's another Navy pilot, a Navy crew Knox using the Air Force pilot where they saw a vehicle or a unidentified object that looked like a tic tac that was moving almost at the speed of sound and had no propulsion mechanisms. There locked radar on it. It went right up to disappeared. These things are saying, Craig. These things

It's been a strong five years. I agree with everything Mark was saying that it's sort of been underplayed in terms of like the news developments in this area. So I'm looking forward to doing our UFO podcast when we're in our seventies, what rich material we might have by then if it's popped. This much is popping up now, you know.

I seriously I recommend look it up on YouTube. The whole segment of the sixty minutes on UAPs is up. Check it out V greg V all.

Right, victory formation, this alignment once a game's outcome is in doubt, which should be executed by Tom Brady no less than twelve times before the end of the twenty twenty one There's no excuses, all right. I really think this team other than like injury catastrophe, there's no reason for them not to.

Let me play. Gregel's advocate here. Yeah, is it perhaps two pat too, Gregor's advocate. That's pretty good, But is it a little two path for us to just pencil in this team coming off a Super Bowl win? A lot of teams have struggled in the aftermath of that. I'm not even gonna throw in that the quarterback's turning forty four this summer, because that just seems absurd to bang on that at this point, but it's true, and say they're not going to encounter any of the turbulence

You're right, we've watched the NFL enough to like know how possible that is. That. That said, like the good teams lately have stayed pretty chalk like the ones at the you know at the beginning of the season that you thought were the very very best are usually there at the end. I just other than injuries, and they were pretty lucky with injuries last year. So if they got hurt in the secondary of the offensive line or certainly Brady things that, then all bets are off. But

I think the idea that they'd win twelve games out of a seventeen game slate is not I have no problem with that at all, thirteen fourteen even, But you just look at last year's Chiefs that if one thing goes wrong, I mean, their goal is to go back to back, which hasn't happened for anyone but Brady since

All right, up next, w Mark.

W Is for what what do you charge Houston Texans fans for season tickets? Five cents, twelve cents, sixty six cents, maybe seventy one eighty two, ninety three cents, one dollar and four cents one dollar, twenty nine cents. It's getting up there. Find your price point, easter Be.

It's a buyer's market.

It's a tough stit down there. There was such good fans too. I mean, I know there's a lot of great fan bases, but I don't think Houston gets mentioned early in that the second they came back as an expansion team, they filled that place up. It is a loud stadium. I was there for the playoff win. It was like deafening and like they have loved their football, whether they're bad or good, and yeah, this this offseason is testing them.

I mean, I've said it before in the show, the Houston Astros would to disgrace that franchise. What they did. They cheated out right and shouldn't have been given the right to call themselves a World Series champion. But take that out of it. Otherwise, the teams the sports town.

It just made me realize that the Rockets are the worst team in the NBA. They didn't end up winning with that entire Darryl Moury Hardened era, which was they got so close and we're heartbreaking and this Texans at the same time, and the shame of the Astros. It's a tough spot right now.

For it's tough.

Well, I mean just like the older fans remember the Houston Oilers and Chris Wrestling wrote the incredible Love You Blue. I mean that fan base in the old House of Pain. There was nothing like that in the NFL. That stadium was insane and there is a lot of carryover to Texans fans today and I just find it. Dan, you mentioned the fact that, like the Texans fans, how can you take a stand? It's hard to because it's like

There's nothing quite.

As Sean Watson thing, which is not on the team. It's this whole separate thing, and it hangs over everything with that organization, all.

Right, hangs over the league. It's been on it's been on my mind too, that like, we're just assuming that Deshaun Watson will play in the NFL this year, but we gotta we don't know what's gonna happen with that.

The letter X thrown up the ax. Does Bryant just one former star still without work his offseason workouts approach across the league. Here's some other name brands, Todd Gurley, Le'Veon Bell, Melvin Ingram Mallie Cooker. Maybe I missed one of these. Let me know if I did. Danny Amandola, maybe not a star, but Ricky loves him, Geno Atkins, Alshon,

Yeah, Des wasn't pleased that Tim Tebow got a contract before.

Him does he got to make a play in the last five years before he complains about anything. I mean, you know that record, but what's that?

You know that Des Bryant was agitated.

Yeah, he tweeted about it real or was quoted about it. Yeah, he was like, come.

On, well, I got on a lot of people's radars for a lot of a lot of reasons.

That's maybe not the best example of that because it was surprising when he was getting thrown pretty you know, key passes in important spots during the Ravens late playoff run or to the playoffs, and even even got some snaps in the playoffs. That was a bit of a surprise.

No wonder the Ravens redid their wide receiver group the letter why we throw it to Ricky Hollywood, the.

Letter why why are we still in.

The show and it's been like an hour and a half.

You do it, Ricky? How are you able to be the producer of this show? It must be so hard for you to do what you do.

It is really really hard.

Hey, I'll throw one out here. How about Isaac Yadam? Why Adm Yadam? Kama Isaac? On Sunday Morning, Stationed twenty nine of a local New York firefighting department responded to a request from Yatam to rescue a kitten who had gotten stuck in the rear differential of his Maserati. They took apart the Maserati and got the kitten out of the thing, and the kitten was fine. I go Godham didn't look too thrilled that they took apart his car.

I hope they didn't put the car back together. I hope.

I mean, I'm sure they I'm sure they went to it otto place and did it.

But I don't know. I just like hearing Greg say.

Yadam, I don't know how to pronounce it. I hope that's how you pronounce it.

I just like Greg like throwing in a you know, slice of life type story through the podcast.

That Mark told me right before the pod that I have to cover why and so that was when initially we had scheduled for Ricky, And yeah, that was news to me. That's why I said, why class, let's take off, Let's.

Bring it in for a landing. Mark Sessler the letter Z Well, let's bring it.

In for a landing with the Zach Wilson, the Jets quarterback. I know he looked sixteen years old, his little pink cheeks and blonde Harry looks like a little boy that start on.

That's so raven. But he is a man.

He is a man who zips lasers through in time lost Patriots defenders this audience, and I think he's a man from the age of cancel culture, and that's what the Jets.

The Jets must do.

At this point, just employ good old fashioned cancel culture. Ignore what's happened over the last fifty years of Jets territories and worlds. Kill it, data, wipe it. Everything's starting out in memory. What then you go cancel the rest of the AFC East And you got Zach Wilson dancing around with a burrito in his right hand, knocking out the Patriots, the Dolphins, and the Bills.

It all starts now that Jet.

Jets. I love this mark. The Jets are canceling the Jets, but only the past, all the ugliness, all the culture of the past.

Yes, okay, so there, how about we cancel the phrase cancel culture? Can we just cancel that no one ever used it?

To be the last time we apply it to our society.

Yeah, like it? That would be nice. I'm very excited to uh as much as I h I struggled with the sam donold thing. There is no there is no there's no arguing that Jets have a more exciting outlook on their season with this kid in the building. So we'll see if you could play the guitar. So we canceled, canceled Culture, and we canceled the Jets Culture, Baby in the bathwater, Theah.

Anyone using the phrase you know you're on it's on the radar. It's on the radar at this point.

All right, Mark, Mark Greg great work, Ricky. I hope you're okay. Anything else before we say goodbye.

I'd be scared to. Ricky is so anxious to end the episode.

It was a joke. Take a joke. You're so up tight marking your bathing suit.

Damn it is a tight bathing suit.

Yeah, the little given what they want, you know, it's surprising. I'll send a send a shout out and some love to the to the Westling family who who celebrated Chris's life over the weekend UH in Cincinnati, and and I got to be there. It was like it just got me thinking, like what a complex guy Chris is. That there was so much like to learn about him, you know, still to go and so that was you know what hurt.

We're happy. Uh kind of represented the podcast there, and we are really looking forward. We're all getting together. Yeah, all Chris's family and friends getting together again in a few weeks and that's going to be awesome. And uh yeah, it's just the ongoing remembrance of a great man. And uh, that's awesome.

That's awesome. Yeah, and Nick shout out to Nick, who I know set up a lot. He's still not thrilled that we had Phil on before him. There's some family heat, but I like that. That's that's what the Westling family is all about. Little inter brother heat will have to we'll have him on. But he did a great job.

But also helps to come on second.

You let the brother one go first, and you know, you scout his performance, and then you come in attempting to top it, adding more controversy.

So he's ready, he's gonna come out firing. He's halfway between no, no, forget you guys, I'm never coming on and I'm gonna wipe the floor with him, which is like the exact reaction Chris. I feel like he is the most like Chris of all the brothers.

I was going to say, like the the simmering pot of anger and potential resentment like this could turn into a spice Rack appearance, I mean spicy.

Watch your back.

You might have a replacement coming from your very same town on the West side of Cincinnati. All right, good, that's great, love it love West. Miss him every day. We missed you during this little break from Wednesday to Tuesday. But we'll be back Thursday with a very special guest, the great Mina Chimes, who is on literally every show on ESPN, So somehow she's gonna carve out a little time for us here on the Aten Podcast and we look forward to that. This is Dan Hansa's signing ah