49ers-Giants Week 3 TNF Recap

Thirty boy, it's hot touchdown and a flag is down on the far side of the eleven yard line. So for the moment, Ronnie Bell gets into the end zone. First down and goal now from the eight yard line and a big hole and pulling his way is Matt Brida for a touchdown. Pressure deep, hot, Samuel hearts out.

There. It is the big horn at the big Bell bottom. As a San Francisco forty nine ers take care of business on Thursday Night football. Let the Giants hang around a little bit, but ultimately never a game in doubt. Thirty to twelve final. San Francisco improves to three and zero on the season. The Giants fall to one and two. Dan Hans is here along with the great Mark Sessler and Mark we knew this was a big challenge for the Giants. Best of circumstances, it's not the best of circumstances.

Yeah, it's it kind of is set apart for me a little bit with some of these Thursday night games where you kind of think you know what's gonna happen, and then because it's Thursday night, and they talked even tonight about the fact that, like you can't even really teach your scout team quickly enough what the other team might do. It's like it's just it's such a compacted practice and a lot of teams don't even have a physical practice.

But still so that.

Creates this weirdness and Thursday nights where like games go awry, they go a little strange.

But what the more realistic scenario.

Is, it's like you kind of lean on who you are, and I think we just saw these two teams for who they were tonight, and one of them is stripped of their best player. It's a running back, and so your backup Matt Brida comes in and rushes only four times for seventeen yards.

The Giants, who I.

Think, if anything, they needed to create disturbance and problems out of the gate. You don't get Darren Waller a catch until I think a minute to go for the half and the Niners.

You know, just did what they did, like if anything win.

I thought the plan was with Wink Martindale was to come out and throw everything at brock Purty and try to create chaos and mistakes, and they did. Like there's an interesting stat let me bring this up here. It's I saw from PFF that they blitzed the forty nine ers on eighty three percent of their snaps in the first half, which is the fourth highest rate of any game of the past five years.

So there was a plan there.

There was a concept of like we can still maybe take this young quarterback and throw them off. His game and party wasn't perfect, but it's like there's too much happening with his Niners offense.

Brandon Ayuku is not in there.

But it's like they found a way just to make enough big plays where I found it to be sort of a prosaic, not very memorable game.

And to be honest with you, this happens to us when you're going to.

Cover every one of these And the Niners sort of performed exactly to the standards that I would have expected on a lower octane night out at the ballpark.

Yeah, they they were obviously the better team. We knew that, and but they it was almost like they didn't put the foot on the accelerator throughout the game because they knew they didn't need to for the most part. And Rock Party, like you said, he wasn't as accurate, and he kind of warmed up as the game went along, So he had no Brandon Ayuk. The connection with Debo is off early on, and yet they were able to.

He really is.

I thought of you tonight because you're one of the people that brought that up and kind of encapsulated it in a perfect way.

Like he's been.

Doing this like for for years, and like tonight I was I was watching this with a couple of kids, like with a friend or two, and it was just like, wait, Deebo does this all the time. He's like down the on the ground like arms spread.

Like yeah, medical. So you're literally wondering, I mean, is he dead, Like yeah, yeah.

Will we ever see him again in this capacity or will they be wheeled out to old age events? And then like two plays later, he's like walking around like this with his like shoulder pads bouncing around. It's like he knows what he's doing. He's uh, I love him for this, Like I think he's enjoyable. And it's like, you know, I look at this team. It's like I think we both can say like we've seen.

The Niners when they're operating at.

A feverish pace and they're just like hand around the neck of the opponent and the opponent is dying slowly, like this was not that game, and it said they still had fourteen first downs to New York's five, and had the half two hundred and forty four yards by the break. One plays to twenty four twenty minutes of possession, seven of ten for third down, which is like a third down is a weird stat but like, when you're seven for ten, you're about as efficient as you can

But the Niners have played.

Like a a gentleman's sea game and dominated statistically in the first half against another NFL team.

I think he tells you a lot about both teams, and even with saquon, the Giants are a tier or even two beneath the San Francisco who they're so good mark that, like when you see that they drafted Jake Moody, which was a total the type of draft pick of team makes when they are so full of themselves about their roster. We'll go take on day two, We'll go grab a kicker because that's the only real glaring hole we have left. Even though the previous kicker, Robbie Gould,

Yeah, I thought that criticism.

I kind of liked that from an announcer to begin with, a lot of these guys shy away from that. You're down your number one running back, your best player on offense, like you said, you don't You've got some you got Jalen Hie, you got some young interesting guys in wide out. But this should have been the Darren Waller game. Now, I don't think that would have made the entire difference had he even played one of his better games against

Just looks so different than the guy in the Raiders three or four years ago. Now, yeah, and the guy we've seen remember to get you knew that. The one thing it was a good trade at the time, but the one thing that smelled funny was why do how do the Raiders make him? I think he might have been the highest paid tight end in the league when they gave him the contractor close to it, and then one year later dump him for a Day two pick, and like, you just wonder if there's more to it,

I'm with you, and I think like you have your Graybeard's roster that you create the final like elderly unsigned, previously star free agents, and I think there should be another roster where it's like Kenny Pickett would be the quarterback,

You pitching a really good Wednesday podcast segment right now? Maybe stand pin in it. I know what you're saying, though, got hype bunnies from the summer who now are getting you know, we're heading into week three. We got to start to see some of that anything else kind of jump out to you. I'll throw a couple of things out there. You mentioned third down efficiency. I love that stat because it tells you a lot. I think about both the offense and the opposing defense. Gents could not

Yeah, I mean so, like compared to the last two games where the Giants did this like multiple personality scenario situation last week against Arizona, They're outscored sixty three to six in the first half this season through tonight. That's messy, and but they were not a disaster out of the gate. I think we're seeing a more stabilized version. But the stabilized version is going to win about six or seven

Is half baked. It's like, uh, I want to ask you this.

Because I went and looked at Nick Schuk is doing QB Index doing a great job. I read the whole thing two weeks in a row, and like he's a great writer and like he's got a good eye for this.

But like he is Party at number eight in his list.

That's a that's before tonight, But that, like that is intriguing to me. I think that's like I kept trying to inflate him last year and it was like people are killing me, but it was like I just liked, I like what I see from Party. But like Daniel Jones down at number twenty one, and like I don't have a problem with that either, Like it's like that's who he is.

Like they they paid the guy they had and there was no other options.

But like Daniel Jones outside of the two quarters against the Cardinals is not getting done this year and it's like he's not their answer next year.

I like, you're stuck with him financially.

But like, wow, you're down on him.

Huh Well, so like I know, so I think number one is floor is high because he can run really well and like when you win everything around him, like last year it seemed like for the first time in his career and why I do. I do like the idea of him, Like everything around him kind of works. Saquon was healthy, Like how many injuries did they deal with in the years before? With Saquon and all the wide outs, It's like, finally they got it. Daniel Jones

It's like, what evidence do we have right now that he's their dude? Beyond like this.

Year next I would say, uh, we disagree on this. I think he really did did take a big step forward last season, and this year has been I mean, it's it's really hard. The Cowboys game in Week one was what it was. It was, it was grim, They got blown out by a much better team, bad weather game.

I no, I hear you, and I'm not trying to be too like down on Daniel Jones, but I just think there's like if we've watched you and I have probably watched probably like four hundred quarterbacks in our lives, right Like there's these tiers, and like Daniel Jones to me is in the tier of like great athlete, great not maybe not great quarterback, but I see it as an athlete. I see like the physical specimen and what it can do. Everything needs to be right around him.

Like I just don't see him that way.

Like it's not that I'm down on him, it's just like they got to manage him and deal with what they have, and like the pieces around him are not living up. They're hurt or they're not living up to the billion and it's like that'll put any quarterback in a tough situation. But like Daniel Jones isn't the first guy I trust to like save them, Like I mean, he'll go.

He's spurts. He spurts.

Like the second half against Arizona, which is the game I tracked last week in the office, was like, you see, this is the last year's Giants team. But then you lose Saquon and then suddenly everything else falls around a part of around on you, and the Giants are gonna win six or seven games. And it's not Brian Dables' fault. It's like he's not doing a lesser coaching job. I don't like the Dallas game, but like it's not a

I'll just say different types of players. But a lot of people felt that way about his predecessor as well. And now he's well, I would sell fame with two rings, So he's not what I guess what I'm saying Mark is like. There are quarterbacks that are high level, big times, you know, star quarterbacks that can lift a team up and take them higher if you just give him a

I know I'm with you, and like I don't want to like I don't want to exit this uh and or not like I don't want to exit the conversation with me as like suddenly I'm anti Eli manning to like like I love Elion, like uh, you know, like I'm.

A pro giant, I'm prone to be pro giants.

That's why I'm a little surprised by how down down you are on mister Dimes right now.

I just I don't. I just I feel like we've got a large enough.

Tough spot to Markie. That's a tough spot for Danny.

I like you whatever, It's fine. Well we'll see.

I'm not I'm not desurbed. Like I don't determine his faith. He will determine his faith, so will fate.

Fate will determine his faith.

So well. Put you know who doesn't care about anything, including fate. This is another reoccurring theme that I forgot about. Al Michaels is in the Golden Years, and Al is now on Amazon, and he's like, I don't even know if Al knows what Amazon is. But Al's on Amazon and he's getting paid a lot of money to be the voice of Amazon. But Al at this stage and God bless him, and I hope I'm the same way. He suffers no fools and he does not care to

I don't know what I mean.

I feel like I like I we celebrated a number of birthday is.

On the right, so I think we changed time zones. Anyway, it's long. It's like an hour thereby San Jose and Al is sick of seeing the Golden Gate Bridge. He's sick of showing the seals you know on the on the Watchman call it the pier. Let's listen to Al keep it real, because he doesn't care if Amazon is happy about this or not.

I mean, San Francisco, it's beautiful. We got somebody's seen it.

Now. We'd like to bring aeriels from nearby here.

But what are we supposed to do the salt evaporator flash Shantos Airport?

Now, where was the stick here from that?

Well?

I know you, yeah right?

How far was candlestick from from here?

Forty miles San Francisco?

Yeah right? The producers in his ear like, Al, come on, man, oh my god, what did he say? What did he say was up there? What are we supposed to get aerial shots of? What did he say?

Like the salt flats or something like that?

Yeah, a little a little world weary.

I love Uncle Al. Yes, yeah. And also he doesn't have the he doesn't have the red the red hair anymore. I like, he's just he's going all the way in and this is who I am, this is where I'm at, and God bless him. Anything else from the game. We have a couple of NFL news things to hit before we say goodbye, But anything else from the game, mark No, I think we.

Can I think we're I think we've said as much as it's needed to be said about that contest that I quickly forget.

It evaporates from the mental mind.

And the Giants host Seattle next week, and then their schedule is really brutal after that. So they need to find a way to get past Seattle and get back to two and two. And if they get to two and two, they're in good position. The Niners have a layup next week. Well, everybody thinks they have a layup against the Cardinals. So so far it's been more like backing down in the paint and then you know, muscling it up and getting it to go down eventually, but

I'm really surprised they put that in prime time. I don't know what they.

Were because the Cowboys aren't going to be healthy when that game comes. They won't have everyone because star cornerback Trayvon Diggs suffered a torn acl in his left knee during Thursday's practice. He suffered the injury during a one on one period in practice, briefly spotted inside the team facility, according to ESPN's Todd Archer, on crutches before undergoing an MRI, which quickly revealed the tear just a huge loss for

It's terrible loss. Like I feel like if you're the Cowboys, you're.

In this arms race with teams like the Niners and the Eagles, where it's like you can't be the next team losing these star players, and it's like, but I don't, I don't.

This happens left and right.

I think the one thing about him is like I think we understand he's not one of the greatest coverage guys of all time.

He's hot and cold on his rankings for that.

But ball hawk wise and what he does to infuse the defense and generate turnovers is wild.

And they also lost Tyler but dazz their center.

I believe I'm saying this last night, like he he had a hamsterring injury and it's.

Like he'll be okay, though that doesn't seem like a serious issue.

I hope. So, I mean, like that's like you, like you, just you.

It feels almost like you're taking a silent bullet to the head when you're losing guys in practice. If you lose them in a game, and we all understand why, you know, he's in the keta battle, but like you're losing them in practice, it's just like.

Oh, it's brutal, and you're happy that Diggs from a person standpoint, he got that payday before this injury happened, and that included forty two million and guaranteed money. Good for him that he got paid before this terrible setback, and he'll come back strong, I'm sure next year. But

And like I think the thing you believe in and them like even like no matter what, Like their offense is spicy, but like it's their defense that's like truly special and somehow carried over from last year to this year is like a top three, top four defense, And like you start taking these guys away and they can't do the same thing. Like when you lose your secondary, it's like your pass rush is affected. Everything's affected. So the Cowboys like they stay healthy. It's like we talked

Tough one, tough one, all right. Circling back to the game. By the way, Mark, I know our front Keveon Thibodeau, he did, he has another tackle a he got a sack. It was a coverage sack early in the game. He did the robot after he got the coverage sack. That was it for Kvon in the game. So we're still waiting for Kavon to make a big impact for the Giants,

I in general don't know why anyone.

I think if you're on the Giants and you're a professional football player and you can get an idea of how the game is shaping up, the idea, the concept that you would spend a number of seconds or minutes doing the robot feels atypical with like the actual situation, Like let's get an idea where we are.

This isn't all about you.

We're not in a narcissistic landscape, like the team is struggling, you've had a tougherly start of the year, like the over celebratory robot thing.

Uh, I don't know. I don't need it. I don't need it.

Would you say a narcissistic landscape.

Yeah, it's like, well no, I mean look at look at like I.

Think that's exactly where we are.

Yeah, I would like I.

Would aim to like repair our relationship with him, if that's even needed. I don't think he even remembers that he was with us. But it's like I'm not looking to inflame it or exacerbate it. But I would just say, like, hey, work, work with my sensibilities a little bit as an observer of the game, like you're you're walking around doing robotic things, like because the giants are down, like you know you're gonna get flamed.

We know you're gonna give up thirty points, you got to tackle? Is this all about you? That's the narcissism, That's that's the landscape I'm discussing.

Finally, the game that we watched today, Mark is a certain type of football game. It's it's the Swingers game. It's it's remember in Swingers when Nicki played by John Farvara. He he didn't have confidence. He's and he's a bear, but he just didn't know how to use the clause and he needed his buddies Sue and double Down Trent to help show him the ways. I thought about that today. Let's let's listen it.

But you are like a big beer with claws, with fangs, teeth, man, fucking teeth on you. She's just like this little bunny who's just kind of countering in the corner shivery. Yeah, man, just kind of you know, you got these claws and you're steering at these claws, man, and you're thinking to yourself. With these claws, you're thinking about how am I supposed to kill this bunny and supposed to your funny.

Yeah, you're not hurting it.

You're just kind of gently batting the bunny around, you know what I mean. And the bunny scared, like the bunny scared of you, and you got yours and these fangs. Man, you're looking at your claws and you're looking at your fans, and you're thinking to yourself, I don't know what to do, man, I don't know how to kill the bunny with this. You don't know how to kill the bunny, do you know what I.

Mean, You're like a big bear.

Man, You're like a big bear forty nine ers. Take the claws out and your big fangs and you just sink into that little bunny, which eventually they did. But that was the classic Swingers game, the big angry bear for some reason, just just batting around the bunny, Like what are we doing here, Let's just just kill the bunny and let's all move on with our life. The Swingers game.

Yeah.

No.

And at the end of that film when they're in the diner and you know, he's just shouting, I would never eat here, and like uh like the you know, there's an incredible diatribe against many backpacks that were a big problem for us, you and I back in the day.

The girls walking around with a mini backpacks. We don't have to deal with that now so much. That's good.

I don't really know what you're talking about with the.

Little well, no, like like they are, you know, like in the beginning of the film and he's going on is insane, like you know, he's on the phone in his apartment. That any like I would say in the late nineties early two thousand window, there was a period where like a lot of like city girls or girls in general were like walking around with like bedazzled like backpacks that were about like six inches by six inches.

And I don't know what. I don't know what they were keeping in these backpacks.

I don't know, nobody knows, but like, but it's like, but they were wearing them, and they're wearing them with dresses, and it's like, why are It's like eleven at night and you're walking around with a backpack. And so it's mentioned in the film, and I agreed with the point.

I love the film for many reasons.

So all right, the film is Swingers nineteen ninety six, a breakthrough in the indie movement of the nineties. So please check it out if you have. That's our film recommendation for the night coming up on the In the Around the NFL universe, we have a Thursday Around the NFL NFL Plus joint with Colleen Wolfe serving as the psychiatrist too tortured fans of around the NFL. That's fun.

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