2023 Road Show With Special Guests!

They are around the NFL podcast.

California has been good to me.

Let's hope it don't fall into the sea.

Ah from the beautiful Vista Restaurant car from rgeous Formosa Beach, California.

It's around the NFL.

I'm Dan Hansis with heroes all over, Mark Sessler wearing the jacket by the way, Greg Rosenthal, and the lovely Colleen Wolf.

Hey, everybody, it's the road show.

I was so excited to see the jacket in person, and it's even more glorious. And I know that you don't like the attention on the jacket, but I stand by my whole thing. As I said before, I think I need one. I think John needs one. I think everyone should be at one.

I would just sad from a from a weather note that it's it's overcast. It's a beautiful day by the sea, but it's windy and overcast. So the jacket is an exoskeleton, a layer of protection that I find attractive for myself.

I think it's been a charmed life for that jacket, because even now you would think, oh, we're doing the show with the beach right behind us in the sun, and it's June now that Mark might be suffering for wearing LEVI.

No, no, in fact, he needs it.

It's it's tactical gear.

Yeah, unbelievable.

We're the ones that made the mistake here.

Right If this goes on YouTube or social you know, you can check out our background. Right now, two men are playing paddleball. Love paddleball on the beach. Those are extra very different than pickleball. The lifeguard operations of Hermosa Beach right behind us. This is this is something.

This is the for us. We like to do this show.

We've done them in West Hollywood in the past with our former producer Ricky Hollywood, the Pride Cast. I think Erica in fact is going to be joining us or be at the venue. And we already have some esteemed guests. I just say Patrick Claybond, he just rolled through having a beverage from the newsroom. Noted Jets fan told me he didn't want Aaron Rodgers, but then came around on it.

Greg gets all in front of us.

It's very exciting. But you're the host. Does this give you any anxiety that we have to work all these people into the show and you're leading now that.

Kind of covered it, Okay, Yeah, I don't need some reference them ever.

Again, No, it's it's a cavalcade and you announced fully anyway.

So Connie, here we are, and hopefully the sun comes out as this goes well and warms us up a little bit. But it's nice here to be by the sea, to be together here in the off season before things get wild and we're gonna talk some actual football. We're gonna have a couple of people that live in the area stop by as guests that you may know if you're an NFL fan, And.

This is nice, you know what, it's nice to hang out with you guys.

This is long overdue. There's a gaggle of guests that will be coming through. I love it like it's a and it's a Thursday too, it's a weekday.

It's perfect.

The Gentleman's Friday, I call off season Friday is what we call it.

I don't see a single gentleman among us.

It feels like the retirement edition of atn like once we retire, we just do the show at like local restaurants outside whenever we want total.

Point will be picked off by some sort of walker by who was annoyed with our presence.

Now you made me feel it's a prediction.

There is a boardwalk.

There's kind of like a walking path with the many seniors behind us.

Right, there's we need to be afraid of.

I just think they might think those people are a little showy?

Was that a paid extra that I was gonna say that there's actually an actress over that brick wall that pops up every now and then that mark paid to pretend to be a female assassin and will take them out.

Just skateboarded by us casually with a dog going to the same pace on a leash.

I mean this is he's an extra as well at a pocket personally the budget for the show anyway.

So yes, we're gonna have some fun with some guests. We're also going to hit on Greg's takeaways from projected starters briefly.

Briefly, very briefly, Yeah, I mean extensively, Greg, I wanted to do briefly.

I tried to get it. I tried to get it in a two minute seg last show, and you were like, we want more. You're like, if anything screams beach, it's projected starters.

It deserves it deserves more, just not too much.

Okay, good?

You know, if you wanted to give it four minutes, I think we give it. What park seven eight six and a half.

Six eight articles at about two thousand words each, So that's sixteen thousand words. I don't know the time, but quite out.

Can you talk a how the saucage gets me?

I don't know.

Can you explain to me, Greg, if you pumped out sixteen thousand words for the series in the in the end of May, okay, and then you're also on a podcast, why would we dedicate four minutes to that.

It's a fair point. I used to operate like, oh the written words. Some things work better on podcasts, some things are more fun. But you're right, we're out of ideas.

All right, we're gonna get to that second, but first, let's get quickly caught up on the news.

If you.

Mark it is now June, heading into July and the hardest summer. I know you've been heading to the gym and you've been an active man looking in fact, looking right. How do you feel about your beach body heading into the south?

Oh horrible?

Like so much progress must be made and I have no motivation to even begin.

WHOA, I'm in the same boat as you.

More importantly, though, how is your what is it called parasocial relationship with Angel Calabresi? What was the lady's name who ran beach body?

I believe you mean the trainer named Autumn Calabrese, who I do not. I have no relationship with her other than I respect her.

It's a facial Parasocial wasn't really known word when we first learned about Autumn. Or that's exactly what Mark's relationship with her, even though it felt so intimate when you were first explaining.

To you, I did not describe I gotta we gotta follow up. Has that like gone up in like a potty scheme, scandal or anything?

She's in prison.

I exited the almost scheme that is that is for sure.

I don't know that to be fact. Autumn Calabriasi, do not sue me.

Let's get into the news Mark, as a nod to you and Big LEVI. Let's start with the niners forty nine ers, Gentleman manager John Lynch said the team is quote incredibly encouraged by brock Party's recovery from elbow surgery, and he has this to say about the QB battle going into camp.

This is courtesy of Sirius XM NFL Radio.

We still remained very high on Trey and we wanted to bring in some more competition. We brought in Sam and and Sam's really you know, taken to the coaching and the structure that we can give him. So at the end of the day, we feel really good about that position. And yeah, I think I think Brock probably is the leader in the clubhouse, as we said, but we you know, it will be open for competition, and it's those guys opportunity to go earn that job.

That's crazy.

So Trey Lance, even though he's barely played Colleen, still a former number three overall pick who they moved heaven and earth to obtain, and somehow, as we enter training camp in twenty twenty three, the GM is on record saying the leader in the clubhouse is the mister irrelevant pick from the previous draft.

If he's healthy, Brock Party.

I can't imagine how John Lynch feels about this deep down.

I'm sure like he sort of wins.

Either way because Brock Party was such a gem that they found and was such a surprise, and that's what made it such a crazy story. But everything that they had done, to everything they gave up to get Trey Lance, and then the whole thing.

With Jimmy G. How messy.

That was.

How he came out at the combine a couple of years ago and was like, Jimmy G. We're asking, we're taking calls on him, We're ready to go. Like, there has been such an interesting turn of events with the quarterback position, and now you have Brock Purdy, who I guess. Yeah, they're gonna have this open competition quote unquote, but they're in a good spot because now they have multiple quarterbacks.

It's not surprising me that Sam Darnold's getting first team reps and they're gonna take Sam Darnald very seriously. I think the news here that he's already throwing. There was this scenario where he was gonna miss a big chunk of the season, and you never know with the offseason injury reports, but at this point, the fact that he's throwing and they're talking this optimistic. I think the feeling is the forty nine ers think they will have Purdy for the start of the season.

I think they want Perdy to be the starter. I mean, he is the lead guy right now. And I think it's like there's stuck in that same world that we are. And it kind of reflects what happened with Jimmy g a couple of years ago when they first traded for him. They had that incredible was it five or six great game sample size where he looked like he had come from the heavens and brock Purty did the same thing. But it's like, is that who brock Party really is?

Yeah, And I think what Rock Party represents to John Lynch is basically a life raft. I imagine if he wasn't there and it was either this flash in the pan potentially two hundred and sixtieth pick coming off elbow surgery is healthy, or it's Sam Donald and then it's like everybody's getting fired potentially. So it's like they have a little bit of backup and Lance is there and we'll see if he gets an opportunity.

I'll Shanahan feel unfirerable.

At this point he should be.

I mean, look at look at what they've done in the last couple of years, making the conference championship games.

It's not you know, you don't look so hot, and you know, I like Sam Donald, but like things could be very grim if Perdy did not materialize out of the.

Mist last year.

It's also impressive that party avoided Tommy John surgery and is somehow maybe going to be available week one of.

The regular I'm distracted though, by the fact that Gonzo just waved to a man in a tank top walking by with a handsome dog. Does he know? Did he know this man? Does he just have friends?

His name is Kyle, and it's Cynthia's friend. And that's Cynthia's dog, Gordy.

Wow, it's all very distracted because what a group of gentlemen here. I just want to jump in there on in this zonn Sandwich connective.

Tissue to our own network. Right, very nice who said this podcast doesn't have sex appeal?

Let's I like that.

I like that.

Keep that in.

We're keeping that in a lot.

There's a lot of chaos going on, and there is like a it's interesting we're taping this on a patio, like we said, outdoors with the beach right behind us. But we have a growing cast of people that we, let's be honest, like, we rather hang out with than be talking to microphones.

How long are we doing this for? I don't know. Let's move on.

Okay, what else do.

Let's talk about Mac Joones friend.

He's uh, he's working out and he's you know, preparing for a new season with the Patriots and good news everybody. He is happy with the progress with Bill O'Brien, the new offensive coordinator.

Here's what he had to say.

Yeah, it's been really good.

It's been normal.

I think everything he's done so far, it's been the communications. The most important part in trust. I think it all starts with that. When you're with a new coach and he's done a great job and controlling the room, I feel like everyone's on the same page. Just got to continue to do it. It's it's a marathon, not a sprint, so we know that, and.

It is that is amazing that the quarterback of the Patriots, you talk about subtweeting and like you know, read between the lines and you know.

Just trying to figure out what he's really saying. Oh yeah, the new offense score. It's normal now.

And he's been doing that. It kind of makes me like Mac Jones more, who's a little milk toast, But I don't at some point last year he decided screw it, I'm just gonna less.

Cynthia's dog we are trying to do a podcast is way more shut it down.

I like that back Jones at some point decided like I don't care anywhere. I'm just gonna let Bill BELLI I'm gonna publicly let people know I'm frustrated, even though Bill Belichick is my coach and he's still subtweeting. But it does remind me of a time back in December of twenty twenty one when I was like, man, Max Jones might win Rookie of the Year and he ended up coming in second place from Rookie of the Year, and I'm like, hey, he looked like a pretty decent

You're to as him of twenty twenty two.

You're throwing out a lot of it, and I think there's a chance he could be much better that I think it's fure reminded.

I think it's fair to, if not throw it out, just be like, let's shelve it. And Mac Jones, who we saw from two years ago was well coached last year, was like, I get normal because it kind of reminds you of like the Nightmare on Elm Street films, where like youths are trapped in terrible dreams and it's like destroying their lives and suddenly that stopped and they just went back to having normal ninth or tenth grade years in high school.

That would be nice.

So that's sort of like mac Jones is going back to just let's get back to normality.

But then there's Nightmare on Elm Street two to three.

Probably this season for him reminds me of Trevor Lawrence Light. That's like a situation that mac Jones has gone through. Considering he started by saying it's normal, so like he's getting back to some type of normal situation.

Just for context again, you're saying it's kind of like Trevor Lawrence Light. That was Urban Meyer, who was like an Atomics show and Bilik's team.

Right crazy.

Wait, Also, mac Jones said that Bill O'Brien is like a walking dictionary, which I feel like we should put out there.

It's all a subtweet and it's all like perspective when Bill O'Brien seems normal, like that's a that's a problem, Like I'm excited for Bill O'Brien, the coach, but Bill O'Brien was kind of a hot mess and not normal at all as an executive.

Finally in the news, and this is connected to the Patriots, because it always will be connected to the Patriots. Tom Brady, who is now in the process, I don't know if it's done yet, but he's agreed to join the Raiders ownership group. And we know that Jimmy Garoppolo drama going on right now with his foot surgery and the recovery there, and Brady and Josh McDaniels the connection they are going

That's all forty five. He put a very specific number on it.

He wants to live until one hundred, so he's gonna I think he wants to play till he's forty five, own a team till he's ninety, put out a good ten to twenty years. He might want to live to one ten and then croak.

I think he could. I think he could definitely do it.

He wants to live till one ten.

There's a decent amount of people, and by deethon, I mean like more than twenty that are over one hundred and fifteen years old right now and alive in the world. And if anyone's gonna do.

It, Greg has a Google doc.

It's my guy, the Pharaoh, Tom Brady Pharaoh.

Let's not jinxum though. That's you're putting a lot on the man.

But I just want to say, now that Mark, we've read this line, he's saying it again, I'm not playing. I think it is time at least for our podcast to wheel out the wooden catapult from medieval times that we somehow were stored and.

Fire this into the sun.

This whole storyline there, it goes right into the orb.

Wow.

Okay to this, look at that trail.

And along with that, when I read this, this this these quotes where I was before was on this place that I thought that Tom Brady and his announcing career was fictitious, that it would never occur, that it just was this figment, this thing hanging in the atmosphere is sort of a joke on us. But I doubt I think actually that I've tabled that, I think he's actually going to go through with that.

He's not going to play again.

I think he's probably at this point annoyed and obviously having to answer this question over and over and I'm done asking it personally.

That's why people are asking.

Into the sun in the sun.

Ye.

And to your point, he did mention he was looking forward to broadcasting on Fox next year in the interviews.

We're out of his way to say that even that conversation. We will now fire into the sun, just to be safe. There it is. Now, it's done.

All right, take a break, take a break, we wait for the sun to come out, and when we get back, we'll touch on Greg's projected starters.

All right, here we are.

Oh, another esteem guest has just rolled. Baby, can you even believe it? It's Ricky Hollywood, the legend Erica temposh jacket. Wow, she does, Greg, She carries herself with a certain confidence that you can't make it up.

She cleans up. It's like, you know, she's got the very business like jacket on, so you think it's all business, but then they're ripped jeans and now she's gonna have fun too.

There's only one Erica.

Would you mind Erica jumping in for one moment? Just ask her a couple of questions about where she is in life.

She just rolled right in.

The starters.

It's my Colleen, Thank you, thank you so much.

Hi guys, Hi Erica?

Are you guys?

How's life with the Rams?

It's good?

So this is the best Seahawks roster since twenty twenty.

WHOA should be raised?

Don't steal her words?

You're yeah, I don't necessarily agree with that, you know, NFC west Oh standings here. But hey, how are you guys?

It's so good to see you.

Yeah, thank you for coming through here to Hermosa Beach, wonderful vista stuff.

Where do you guys go?

I think it's your choice choice? Nice?

Yeah, we the Rams have come up a lot.

Ricky, Uh, I've talked too much.

We're trying to figure out like what they are.

I haven't heard.

Are they tracking what we? What we?

There are people, there are people that track. There are people that I like.

That quickly point out like I wouldn't actually listen. I wouldn't know.

But yeah, no, I no, I can't.

That's great.

I'm not gonna lie to you guys.

So what are you What do you got going on in the summer? Summer of Ricky?

Yeah, summer Ricky Hollywood's gonna be a big one. I think, Yeah, I'm ready for it.

I don't know.

Pride starts today.

Well, what do you think this is? This is your third annual pridecast here?

Yeah, no, I think it's I think it's super good thing I showed up. Would have been the straightest pridecast.

Of all time. We discussed that.

I'm glad.

Yeah, no, I think it's a good thing that I that I showed up. But yeah, that's that's good. Are you guys talking about like what you're gay for or anything like that?

Now that that was the one time segment, it didn't really work.

We're doing Greg's projected starters.

We've kind of we're just.

We're having guests come in it is it kind of is all right?

Ricky?

Well, are we gonna hang out together after we finishes.

I mean, I hope, so I just drove an hour, all right, good, all.

Right, Ricky, Hollywood, Colleen, you gotta come back, you guys. Actually, Connie, stay there a second, I see, can you come over here a second? But we got we got.

To ask him about the Cardinals. Hey, how are you all right here?

The Voice of God actually never discussed Greg.

I think that would be a funnier show, a better version of the show.

Oh wow, my forever friend, Jason, what's up, Bud?

Thank you for coming out?

Hey, thanks for having me.

We know you're not long for California? Is that why you you trecked all this way from your your home? Are You're just soaking in? It's the last time I'm going to see the Pacific Ocean. Really, this is I'm ending it tonight. And I wanted you guys to know you're gonna do the swim into the ocean move, which is always kind of cool.

I mean, if I was I can't walk anymore, if I.

Was gonna walk into the ocean and just let the sea take me away, the hat I would wear would be a completely black Arizona Cardinals at so I think you're well dressed for it.

It's fourday morning as a fan base.

That's before we were trying to just wrap over the show so we.

Could all hang out.

But we want to talk about what does it feel like as boots on the ground Arizona Cardinals fan entering this season?

Like where what are expectations for you?

Like? What do you want out of this season?

I just I think there's there's a word. It's a violence, you know what I mean? Because I don't think we're gonna win. I don't think we're gonna We're not even gonna sniff like the playoffs.

I just want to hurt people.

I just want people to feel the way I feel inside on the outside.

So like injuries or just losing to the Cardinals.

Make not any broken bones.

But I just, you know, everyone, I want to see Paris Johnson put somebody into the deck. All right, you're violence and I'm a happy man.

Where are you on the Monty as vibe?

Probably it's just north of the the other Monty who was who used to be the Phoenix Suns coach.

Like I don't know about how I feel about either move right now, but we'll see.

Yeah, I mean do you want a two and fifteenth season?

Okay, if we're tanking that bad and they don't let Kyler play, and if that's the move, and if we're gonna go and try to replace him, if that's really the move, I think I have to embrace it. But there's a sight of me as like an actual fan of the game. I don't want to see that, you know what I mean? And I like Kyler. I think he's fantastic to watch when he's allowed to be as dynamic as possible when the when the line is strong. So do I want to see a power a power game with him at the helm?

Yes? I do.

Am I positive that a guy of his stature can be the key figure in the power game? I'm not sure.

I'm not sure that you want him back when he's healthy.

Okay, Yeah, I don't know if you're gonna get that either.

You've taken the job as the voice of the Around the NFL podcast and you've run with it. You've helped the.

Show show, tried to steady.

You really carried the live show in a meaning wonder way. It is great to see you before you leave for the East, Gust.

That's good to see you too, man, try to get him back already.

One little favorite, Like the first time I ever met you was with Dan at the Cozy and like we had talked. We were talking to like some side projects that we could together some yeah, back to debate club days. I believe it was things we could add to the debig club. And you had you had a little you had a little segment that you did called Walking with Giants.

Chris walking here, Walking with Giants, Eli Manning twenty twenty three, greatest Quarterback and the nfowl were like an if L he was still playing.

I don't know, that's it. It's trying to end it, Jason, everybody all right?

Really, I knew, Hey, honnye.

It's going to be harder and harder to get Colleen back into it, into the.

I want to get everyone here, just Mick, get him in the mix.

Too much longer, we're gonna look yeah, yeah, no sense going straight into the ocean.

That's a second straight into the ocean.

What moment in the last like three minutes, Why is everyone thinking about that?

Because it's right there?

All right, Greg, projected Starter.

So we really are going to do this? I thought it would be fun because we got Clayban, Kimmy Checks has shown up from the FATI. I was just talking happening.

It's fine, this is a good group. Or people get coming. I'm very distracted.

Why don't we We'll do We'll just do a little bit here un projected Starters.

Okay, what do we say six and a half?

I mean yeah, it's like three and a half, four and a half.

All right, three ty three?

We were gonna do two. Now we're doing three. So you are get the expanded edition?

Right?

What is who do you sneaky love?

After doing Projected Stars Dolphins? I don't know if that's really I feel like they're like a top five roster, top five coaching.

You you called them like essentially across the board, ready to essentially morph into a Super Bowl contendent.

With that question, I feel like it if two is healthy, I don't see what any reason. The offensive line maybe

Sorry, a bug just like flew into my mouth. I feel like I'm really high.

Who's a fraud? That's what I want to know.

Who's like, you're just not buying and everybody is into them.

I feel like the Jaguars are just rolling back the exact same team, which I understand because they made the Divisional playoffs, Like they spent all that money two years ago, and you can't spend all the money two years in a row. But the defense, defensive rosters like not that good. I don't know, I'm not that in love with the Jaguars maybe doing it all again. They were kind of a mediocre team that had a couple of things go

If you want to if you took a couple of months off to go actually pursue other activities in your life and you want to plug back into where teams are, I.

Would read this. It's it's eight divisions, and.

It's a bit of a project to read all of them, but it is educational. Well, no, it takes time, but like maybe you do one two every day, but like you will learn a lot.

And I came away.

Commanders who we always essentially just rip on left and right, and we know that the ownership has been apocalyptic mess for ages. But you talked about their roster as being one of the more complete rosters in football.

Obviously the quarterback is the situation.

But outside of that, like they look like as about as solid as any team around.

They look like a very normal team where there's not like any weaknesses, Like they have decent players at every single position. They make sense to me. I feel like I take less away from like which team looks good? Which team looks at more situations, like your eagle is a couple of situations popped in my mind where I think everyone thinks Rashad Penny, DeAndre Swift, like those are the guys in fantasy for instance, and like Kenny Genwell has been there. He got a ton of carries in

I noticed that in What was It Your Panthers? Right up about the running backs, how you wouldn't be surprised if Miles Sanders didn't really get a ton of run in the starting spot.

I think he would be the starter, but I wouldn't. They're one of those teams there's different spots where it's like we're going to add to the mix in August.

What South in general is what is their team. You always seem to kind of ride the Saints and assume the best from them. Are you coming high on the Saints a show?

I'm not, and I'm surprised a lot of people. Are The Falcons struck me doing this that like they're really gonna roll there with Mac Collins as their number two receiver and like no one has, they are built like a nineteen eighties team. Mark always wants nineteen eighties football, like they are nineteen eighties.

You talked about them kind of being shotguns out of nineteen eighty five, and I totally agree. I don't think there there's a team that reading through all these that you seemed higher on, and tell me if I'm wrong. I know there's a lot of trust in the Chiefs, but the Cincinnati Bengals seem to be the team that just stood.

Out to you.

They are and they lost some players too, like p Ryan stuck out to me as a guy who might be starting for the Broncos over Javonte Williams and getting all the run. But yes, I feel like the Bengals are set up. It's not about like the window closing, because I think they will be around, but they feel a little bit like my Boston Celtics were this year that like everything was set up for them to do it.

I also pointed out or I took this out of your NFC West column, that you like the Seattle roster better than any team in the NFC North and NFC South.

Right.

I know I shouldn't be surprised because Gino, but still you're pretty high on them.

There's like it's it sucks when you get stuck in a in a division, like any team should want to be one. To be in the NFC North or NFC South right now or a FC South, you'd probably win it. That's that might be the third best roster in the NFC. Seattle, Philly, Dallas would be my top two and then maybe Seattle, maybe San Francisco like they have stars, but uh, they're pretty short at offensive line, cornerback. I'm feeling too dorky. This is not a beach projected starter thing.

I think it's informative. I think it's a nice little uh on the this is our beach read.

Yeah, it's our beach read.

It's a very weird Ravens team. I'm throwing another one in there. Like they have no pass rush. Like they have They're not very imposing on the defensive line at all, but they're deep at receiver. It's like the opposite of the Ravens. You feel better, I am.

That's I'm a beach guy.

I mean you don't. You don't look at me and you think beach guy. But pure hours on the beach. I think I'm clocking all you guys, maybe by a good distance. In my Los Angeles went to the beach. I'm a solid once or twice a week beach guy.

What are you doing on the beach though?

That matters too.

It's a lot of playing football with Walker. He just wants to like kind of run around. It's a lot of walking. It's a lot of sitting, a lot of walking with Walker, a lot of walking, a lot of football, a lot of football.

So you never can get too far from ball though. See that even on the beach, you ever go into the sea, float here and there, but it's cold.

Pacific's gold Man that's what they don't tell you about moving out here. Atlantic Ocean kind of warm, I mean, at least warm enof the Atlantic, ISI cold arrow down on Pacific.

You're just telling you anything else from the projected starter's mark that jumped out to you.

I would say this, it's an over arching sort of bird's eye. But in the run of the show, the AFC North has always featured typically two trash bag operations that are just floundering, And this is the best AFC North we've ever covered by far. Every one of them is a playoff contender. I just wonder if they'll all eat each other up.

I agree it's something will go wrong for one of them, but I think like they could be four of the top twelve teams in the NFL.

I think the East End and the North are similar like that, and of course and then you have in the West the Mighty Chiefs are there and it's it's going to be very interesting in the AFC the NFC. It feels like when you're doing this that I feel like this that in general everyone's under the impression that's just a wide open conference with not a lot of superpowers.

Is that come through again? When you do that.

I feel like the Eagles and the Cowboys are pretty awesome. I mean, the Cowboys need their first two picks to hit in a way that most teams don't. Mazzie Smith starting probably what is it, schoon mocker, They're tight end they could use to start. But other than that, like the Cowboys are pretty loaded and the Eagles are the most loaded. I mean, the Eagles are still to make.

Everyone's going to pick the Eagles, and I know that could be an issue, Connie, I don't like that, but I feel like that's where this is gonna come, uh early September August when picks are coming in, because the Niners people will be scared of the Niners, the quarterback situation. The Cowboys people will be scared of the Cowboys because to the Cowboys and things never get where they need to be. So it's gonna be heavy heavy Eagles talk.

Going into Week one.

I don't love that, how how top heavy the NFC is and not very just like a couple with them.

I picked them to win the Super Bowl last year. I think I'm just gonna stick with them. I wonder if everyone will not pick the Lions because it's like you are around it so much that people will try to be cool and make the counterpick. But I'm sticking with the Lions. They're kind of eagles. Like the Lions with like all their linemen, like eight linemen. You can roll in and out.

I see it.

By the way, I see Andrew Cilliano just coming down the bar.

It's all happening. I think he's rolling right behind towards us.

I think we need to get more people.

In both yeag, just relax for Christ's sake.

Relax, one driver per car.

All right?

Here he is Andrew so sillyano of NFL Network and beyond.

What's up, Bud? Welcome, see you boys. Welcome to my neighborhood. This is your hood.

Yeah, I'm glad you guys came down here. Welcome to a cloudy day June gloom. Don't we pay enough taxes for more sun day on the beach.

I think of you just as a suit and tie man, you know, but I like you in this.

Thank you beach.

Hey, you guys all, I don't see you as a suit and tie guy.

That's literally how I see him when I see him right across from us.

Do you think Reggie would be a little strange. Had he showed up here in a suit and tie?

No, I like it. I like it. You live right near here, I do.

I walked here and this uh.

I was walking down here, and I realized because I grabbed the Aviator Nation sweatshirt on the way out, I don't get it free on the way out the door. And I realized, there could This is the most South Bay uniform ever. I have you already sweatpants on and an Aviator Nation. It's like I'm a cliche. It's pathetic.

I love it. I love it. I love being a beach guy.

And this is like you do your your running around this area like this is your this is your world.

So we're we're on the strand right here in Hermosa and there's the Hermosa peer right there and the hands about a you know, a mile point one point three miles up. And I generally listened to your podcast. Matter of fact, I did this morning breaking down DeAndre Hopkins and and other things and fly on the wall stuff while running this strip right here at one point seven five speed. So right now, that's right now, your voice is in my head. I don't have to do today.

Yeah that I I could ride with somebody saying they do one point you know, actually.

You know what?

It was?

One two five?

It was on seven five is borderline offensive?

It was one five, not one seven.

I can't imagine how annoying my voice sounds in one point seven five. It's tough enough, how is it? In reality?

I think you guys sound great?

Are you on board with speaking of our last episode, are you on board with temporarily the general manager of Denver Broncos now going by the name Kevin Saunders, just to eliminate any uh you know, confusion between the head shirts and the.

Gym, I mean the patent Peyton Peyton Patten.

Going maybe on the network NFL Plus side, is that something we could do?

We are back for mini camp shows next week on the Plus. We're actually doing them. I just found out yesterday. I don't think this is a trade secret from your podcast.

Chris Westling podcast, do it? We were tall? We are taping around that and what interesting we weren't on those days anyway, So it all worked out.

So I'm speaking of what we're wearing. I think we might go Plus Golf shirts next week.

You can't suit in the Chris Westing don't.

I don't know if that's been cleared up the food chain they don't.

I don't know.

I've never seen the Plus Golf shirt. I do.

I don't know.

There.

I'll say this, the Plus hoodie might be the most comfortable swag they've given us in a long time. Did you guys get one in the locker rooms?

You know?

Uh?

Well this is awkward. No, we got nothing at all. Answer No, I don't know. I think I think that it's it's a company.

Yeah, well, you're a man that famously is watching all the action every Sunday, and so you're on top of this. What is the team or division that you're most amped to be uh checking in for regular updates?

I do think it's it's the low hanging fruit here.

But the AFC East obviously with Rogers there and and the Bills reaking of desperation and like Thatking of despot to uh to a injury and fifth year option conundrum and what happens if Tua gets hurt? Would Tom Brady sell his shares in the Raiders to go to the Dolphins.

I mean, I'm making this up now.

But they already gave up They already gave up the first round pick. Why don't they just go sign him? They already paid for him, right, Well, I'm just making it would be tough to sell.

Our fan producer sitting in here, Eric is shaking his seat at You're saying they're desperate. You don't think, Well, they didn't act like a desperate team. They didn't do that much this offseason relatively. I actually like certain things about their team. I like their backfield a lot, the way it all mixes together. Four guys who are all good, pretty good. But they didn't do that much.

Here's the thing, and let me ask you this, Andrew, there's a difference between urgency and desperation.

You think it's crossed.

They've crossed the rubicon and entering twenty twenty three.

It's a fair point. And I am prone to hyperbole, but look at it this way. If if they don't make it there this year, I mean, they bowed out in pretty awful fashion. You were emotionally exhausted. I understand how and why they lost to the Bengals, but it leaves a bitter taste. John McDermott takes over the defense, so there's now even more on his shoulders. You guys know this. There is nothing worse than the sports radio

Just shut up?

Everyone has pressure, Like anybody can get fired at stop moment when you lose, right, That's how this business works. But if the Bills don't make it to the Promised Land yet again, this year, another year older for Josh Allen, another year closer to retirement, and it's hard to come back from an injury at that age. For Von Miller, do we face another off season of vague Stefan digs

Yeah, I agree with Von. You might not be back to like week five or six, by the way he threw that out there.

Yeah, and yeah, Diggs is a mere curial guy and they've been knocking on the door for so many years now. You do get the feeling that Orchard Park could go up in flames. If this is a disappointment.

I got to ask you because we just talked about the AFC North too, where like it suddenly feels like you've got, for the first time in a long time, not one or two of those teams that are not vile, but four potential playoff teams. And you're a Browns fan. We've always connected on that. I see Andrew in the office all this pass publics with that.

Are Browns fans now like coming out of hiding after the misery, I can jump.

I don't think there were that many that actually that actually went away.

I know some did well, and I respect them. That's why I think.

It's I think they put the fans in a tough spot.

They did. I totally agree with you. I want are you ever going to come back?

I like, I know, I get a lot of tweets saying that because I'm kind of coaxed into well, you're a fan against Like, I really haven't changed my stance.

I can.

I'm interested in the team in general, just because I think at this point I'm gonna ask you this, it's think a lot of people are sleeping on them because of what's happened to them and it's it's tougher to discuss them. You're not wanting to project them the same way you fascinate over other squads, necessarily, but the Browns seem.

Pretty complete all over the or.

Do you think that they are legitimate division winning candidate?

I do, But it's also an amazingly tough division. And I do think the Steelers will be better. I think the offensive line will be better. And I think Pickett remains to be seen how much better he will be in year two, but you know he I assume he will be better. I think with the Browns there's gonna be a Jim Schwartz honeymoon in which the defense plays with its hair on fire and and it creates more sacks,

I thought Okermo is gonna be a superstar and he kind.

Of another guy coming off of injury yeast year.

Swartz, though, I.

Think, I think he played amazingly well's first year.

He couldn't say healthy last year than Anthony Walker got hurt, than Taki. Taki got hurt when playing out a position. He was really playing well the second half of the year. I do think they are legit, But the question is is is Deshaun gonna play well? That there's to me, there's no bigger question mark in the NFL this year, And again hyperbole.

I agree.

If Deshaun Watson can return to eighty percent of his form free suspension fakes this like sat him down for the year in twenty twenty, then they are, yes, a legitimate AFC.

I think I.

Would like a little Swartz swarts comeback season. Jim Schwartz really hasn't been in the mix lately. Let's get some Schwartz bombs.

Oh Schwartz, Yeah, Schwartz is good.

I'm just saying like he mixes it up. He mixes it up with immediate there's as like Hellinoya's players. Yeah, Schwartz is good, Shorts is good.

You know, he's kind of like Greg Williams, but just not you know, enough less.

Yeah, but he's a little villain.

He's just a tangible villainy to Greg Williams.

He's like Greg Williams, except he always had a cover blurb on Football Prospectus every year Football Outsiders. So he's like a little bit of a nerd. But he was one of those guys the book I read, Well, I'm Making Game Plans Jim Schwartz, two thousand and seven.

But I remember in the I can't remember which job he might have been interviewing for the Bears job in the nineties. I was in Chicago, and I remember somebody in that building told me at the time that when he interviewed, they were blown away by his whether you want to call it an analytics like presentation, but in the in the late nineties, yeah, his presentation the I'm a little bit smarter than you, I'm ahead of the game presentation.

So he's been that guy.

He was one of six little nerds back in the Cleveland Browns regime days.

And finally, Andrew, before we let you go and we're going to wrap the show up soon too, because we just want to hang out, buddy. But dating in the South Bank, what are some tips?

It's a little shaking their heads.

It's so difficult, a little bit of that older crowd, which I'm okay with. It's not the it's not the younger Santa Baca of Venice, West Hollywood crowd that I was used to. I'm also not younger anymore.

Right, it's that rude.

But that seems to I'm closer to fifty than I am to forty.

So let's let's cut the crap.

There.

Pesh's mom played by h Marty Scorsese's real life mother. You know, they're sitting or eating some pasta. There's a dying guy in the trunk. But she's like, why don't you meet a nice girl? You settled down, have a nice girl. Let's do it. Let's settle downt's find a nice woman. Okay, bring around the show. We'll give her the seal of approval.

I'm down.

That's obviously the first step. Forget my parents. It would be you guys. I'm down to do that. This the South is different. I mean, you got a lot of guys hanging out of the nine hundred club that you know probably sold their company at thirty two and now they're single still at fifty eight. The club they have what's that about the Peter Pan label. It's a lot of que unquote Peter Pans down here that can't grow up right.

But they don't have that advice in that plan of action that Dan Hansis just gave you that's gonna lead you.

That's true.

Oh they've probably done it six or seven times and they're rebooting yet again. It's it's a different world down here. I kind of missed the West side. But look we're sitting on the beach.

We would sound challenging, Andrew, but I think you're going to navigate it.

I picture world problem.

I picture a scenario about six months from now, I get a text out of the blue, Andrew, I found the one that's gonna be real nice.

Then then systematically she comes on our show before he.

And then we clear it your parents, and then away we go.

Would they have to come in and do this in your podcast studio or would you guys go on location again? Would you come to us?

Okay, yeah, maybe we'll have another Vista show.

Give me flex, We'll be flex we'll get the vist the sunshine out and we'll have a whole sit down.

Okay, sounds great. Can I ask you one last thing? Sure? Okay, it's a two part question.

What what do you think of the knew I'm throwing myself out there again Aaron Rodgers?

Okay? And two.

Do you read into back to back nights at the Taylor Swift Show.

Oh, that's interesting.

Well, when you say I'm putting myself out there, and do you mean just his involvement with the team, with activities.

Involvement with the team, being mister social doing.

Yeah.

My my take on that whole thing is if he's if he's around for multiple years, year one good soldier year, next year, all bets are off and it will be the same way it was with Green Bay. He will not be in Floram Park in May next year, no matter what happens.

Is old Brandon Marshall plan. Yes, exactly.

Have you ever have you ever said, well, man, of course you've got to FaceTime me.

I have no service.

Yeah, I got I gotta say.

Like, there's another article popped up again where yeah, Matt Schnine with the athletic Uh, It's like Aaron, you gotta move on, bro like and I understand like Matt Schneidman and Packers fans are interested in it, but you just.

Can't talk about it anyway. You gotta move forward.

So, yes, there are elements of the Rogers personality that will continue to irritate. But if you could play quarterback specifically for my team, I will let a lot slide. But I think we're gonna get him on very good behavior this year, absolutely, and then next year we'll see what happens in so many ways of that organization. And as far as the Taylor Swift thing, back to back

Sweat is another wrong with that. I'm I might go multiple nights. It's so far, I'll tell you, right.

I mean, I think he was also unless it was the same thing. I think he was at the Phoebe Bridgers Genius Show too. She's taken it. I just loves music just.

Because Taylor Taylor is due to the free agency right now.

Oh okay, wait a second.

I see where you go.

See where I'm going, and I've seen other gown path You know what I'm saying.

It seems kind of almost it's it has to happen at this point. It seems like she's got to lose this guy from the nineteen seventy nine and then it will be Aaron Rodgers and it will be the biggest story in the country.

I don't need it.

We need to focus on getting dubs in the swamps, right, We need to focus where it should be.

H Andrew Ceciliano, You've said it all.

Thank you, my man. I will meet you up for a drink about eight feet away in a few minute.

Guys, I was flattered to be back on the show for the first time in four years.

It made me.

It made my off season. It made my off season again. We'll get you sooner next time. We love Andrew. All right, how's evering going? You haven't a good time. The sun's not out yet. We need to recall telling back just to get on the nerves. Want to get Patrick. Let's get Patrick.

Oh yeah, to come down to Kimmy checks for some fantasy and then we'll say, say, I just feel like we.

There we go another.

Yes, we need to We got a deep bench today now coming on the legend himself, Patrick Clay, what's up?

You just belonged by the sea.

Yeah you you you dressed most appropriately.

Well, thank you, guys.

I figured we should celebrate the month, celebrate the event, and no, I just this was clean.

This was what happened.

We've been kind of, you know, carrying the load here talking a lot. We heard that you sorry one note.

I see a man going by a bike wearing the exact same sweatshirt that Andrews of Celano just appeared on with, you know, and.

You missed it, Mark, because when you said that, he turned around and gave this look as if to say, hey, no.

One's supposed to talk about that. I'm hot on men's fast.

I didn't know it was the South Bay uniform. I was like, oh, I should get one of those.

Wait, now he's coming back and he has anger in his eyes and he's walking right toward Mark.

Yeah, I think we're gonna have enough this dude out.

Mark, I was gonna say. Patrick told me privately here that he had a five minute monologue though on like one of the hottest topics in the NFL. Right now, So the floor floor is yours, Patrick.

Greg is making stuff up again. Occasionally Greg Rosenthal does this. He will, he will just fabricate some reality that doesn't exist.

I thought that was my Sessler's moment.

You want a little a little fun fact for today's episode, two different people sitting in your chair have reference directly walking into the ocean and ending it all.

It's a little dark. It's a little dark right now, but we can we can be the light. I love it. I love the golf. We can be the light to keep people out of the ocean.

I like that.

We need that.

And now I'm experiencing regret because I feel like I should have picked up the torch that Greg tried to No, that took the easy way of No.

Do you have any trench in takes that you've been sitting on a little bit in terms of the NFL, this would be the time to.

Share it, Dan, If I had a take I was sitting on, then it would be an impossible take to share publicly with you guys that the listeners could hear, because if I have a take, it's coming out, man, coming out in some compacity.

Mean you're on television a lot, especially if you if you go into a tavern or a restaurant in NFL networks, I feel it gets like eighty five percent of their share from just sil tavern restaurant. Fair But like you, are you recognized on the street. Do you walk up and down the streets whenever say hey, that's Patrick.

Cla I have three people. I have dudes at Costco. Uh, there's three dudes at Costco. Yeah, three particular. This is not like a thing that happens a lot. But there's three dudes at the Costco that I go to that have spoken to.

Me every time.

It's the same dudes every time. Otherwise it's like whatever, just the dude, you know, just a dude at the bar trying to get a drink.

There's a guy at the bar getting a drink.

So you're saying they know you the from fantasy, not from your around the NFL podcast work.

No, I'm all the atn people communicate with me through other means.

Uh.

We're a family, of course. But as far as random people, I would I wouldn't consider an AT and listener to be a random person. They're they're a part of.

You've always been a risk taker on Twitter. Have you received any feedback from the Hires up lately with some.

Of the thankfully no, thankfully no.

But isn't that almost like an indicator that maybe it's time to ramp up the heat. You like walking up to that line, and that's what makes Claybourn a great follow on the Twitter.

I probably should we do have. You know, we've talked about the belligerent capitalists that that's operating the institution that that we all know and love as Twitter dot com.

I'm gonna own this company in about six months.

Yeah, it's been a hindrance to my participation. But but I'm always going to be on the site. I'm always going to be UH in some capacity. But it's you know, it's the all season.

And the only fans page going. It's good.

We're we're building mark we are building. We're trying to get up to something UH that can be marketable, that can be distributed. We want to open the kimono it literally and it's all about vertical and horizontal integration regarding the only fans page, and we're and we're looking forward.

That was great, yes, and that was very nice.

And now here's your last opportunity to share a.

Trench in take Okay, why not because we got the NBA. I know there's something in the chamber. Yeah, we've got the NBA Finals coming up, yea. And only one team gets to be remembered. Only one team gets to go around and go to banquets and have horrible chicken and talk about their experience for the remainder of their own lives.

That's it.

That's why football is completely different.

Is that if once you have that tip in who's the gentleman who had the tip in? Point Derek White to not win the game seven, it's all the more painful because it feels like that went from iconic moment in team history to total afterthought. It is like to almost waste that and you almost rather it didn't happen.

It was brutal, but we got those two days of excitement looking forward to the game seven. It got the series, and I'm the Celtics are a good example of this, of this team that keeps getting close. But I do try to keep in mind they've given me a lot of enjoyment being so good, and yes they haven't gotten

Check it.

And it's okay to have things hurt, like people are leaving relationships all the time and it's like, oh I wasted time, did you or did you enjoy your serians at the time, and you're upset that it's over, And it's fine to be upset when you have something good and it ends, But that doesn't mean that you.

Shouldn't to take buried in the champion And I'll go ahead, Mark I.

Said, twenty seven years from now, Patrick, God happily attend that Miami Heat pant with you.

I don't know what else?

Yeah, why not Lawry and some good chicken? Why don't we make the chicken better?

Before we say goodbye, Pat, I can't really look at you, Patrick, so I have to talk in this record before we say goodbye. On the subject of the NBA Playoffs, the Miami Heat drop game one of the play in They're down in the elimination play in game, win that game five minutes to go, and then what happens? They knock off a suppose a juggernaut number one seed, then a very tough New York Knicks team, then a fifty eight win Celtic squad.

How about that moment claim?

How about it?

The obvious question is, Dan, why didn't they lose to the Bulls?

If because they didn't have their momentum yet, it's a thing.

Come on, if the Miami Heat exists. To convince Patrick Clayn, the momentum is a thing in sport, Okay, we'll see. We'll see if they pulled it off.

The wait, what about the momentum after they blew out the Celtics in Game three?

Well, there'll be a sick of fan.

To clay Bon, Greg, I've never been a momentum guy twenty eight three.

Did you send any momentum that that Sunday night in Houston?

I mean I saw a lot of a lot of scores in a row talking circles on this.

Yeah, all right, Patrick, let's have a drink. In seven minutes, we're drinking, and so all right, in fact, let's.

Wrap it up.

We're having some issues. So thank you to everybody for uh listening here. Thank you again to Vista and and Brady running this operation in Hermosa and all the crew with the NFL that did an amazing job setting us up and getting this done, and all the guests that have come on. And now we're gonna hang out as a group because this is the time of year to do such a thing.

Boys.

Absolutely, let's waste no more time in doing that.

All right?

Until next week, Dan has a signing off for Quiet Storm, the old Boss, Patrick, Clayban, Andrew Ceciliano and some Walt Colleen wolf Eric at Tamposi. Cynthia just rolled in. We're gonna talk to her. Kevin Danger Hands my brother maybe the Lighthouse they call him Eric behind the glass heathen call