2021 Week 4 Recap - Brady Beats Belichick

It's that special, Greg, that we're actually gonna start the show with a little Sunday night football today. How about that? It is not every week, but you know, it's not every week that the greatest quarterback of all time returns to his home. And yeah, you gotta give him their respect. And they showed up in a game in a week where I think there was like five six seven, like great looking matchups and hipster Duface is like me, We're like, oh Bucks, Patriots, it's not even like one of the

better games of the week. Actually, it ended up being way better than all of those games. Right. You could you could kind of get board of the build up to a game like this in the way NBC was putting all their professional might behind and promotional might behind making this thing as big as possible and getting all these actors I think from New England, various people uh to be part of their campaign. But at the end of the day of the teams needed to play the game,

and the game was a good one. So before we get to all the Sunday Week four action, let us start with the last game. And it went down in Gellette, honest way, that is for you, Rick. So I can't tell you, Greg how many times as a I would have called myself Tom Brady hater but somebody suffered at the hands of Brady um for so many years. It would always get me mad that yes, Tom Brady is great, and yes the Patriots do it the right way and

they just know how to win. But it always felt like it's so many instances, instances the team they were playing would make a decision late that would just drive you INT's like, oh Brady is so charmed, you have such a charmed life, And isn't an ironic when he goes back to Foxboro for the first time, Greggy that that happens again. Tom Brady is on the right side of what felt to me um a situation where the opposing team, when it mattered most, made a bad decision.

In this case, to me, it was going for the field goal with Nick Folk fifty six yard or in driving rain with a bad plant leg and uh, instead of going for it on fourth and three, it hits the upright final score Bucks nine teen, Pat seventeen. Icy quick handshake at the end of the game between Brady and Belichick. I'm kind of into it, Greg, but also it's Tom Brady. What a blessed life it's been. I mean, if you want to like drive down narrative street, let's

do it. Bill Belichick in the biggest moment of the biggest, you know, game of this season for them, and and certainly his biggest moment as a coach I think in this season, blinked. He kind of choked. He had a pretty obvious decision. We were sitting there in the film room, you know, I was next to you. We'll get to that. It was close enough, and I didn't think it was

even a decision. Yeah, when it was third and three and they got about a minute plus left, I said, oh, suddenly, it's like they gotta get three yards here or else. It's one play in the game is over. They tip the pass of the line of scrimmage. It's fourth and three, and I say, okay, you need three yards to keep

the game going. I didn't think it's a decision, because anyone that's watching the Folk who's hit thirty five straight over the last year knows that the Patriots don't even line them up outside of fifty because that's just not the kind of kicker that he is anymore. And then anyone that's watched this game down the stretch thought, the Bucks don't have any players in the secondary. They're missing literally their top four players in the secondary. They're missing

their starters. Mac Jones is moving the ball pretty well. You get lucky with a couple of calls on that final drive, but ultimately you have to have some confidence in a kid that just hit nineteen straight. And more important than all of this, you would have left Tom Brady all the time in the world and two timeouts to go kick a game winning field goal the other way.

So I didn't even think it was a decision. I was stunned to see uh Nick Folk coming out there, and it continued a number of mental mistakes that this Patriots team has made throughout the course of this season, including the time out that they took on the drive before when they couldn't substitute right. That's happened two or three times. This Patriots team, as as hard and as well they played at times tonight, has been very sloppy. They lose the turnover battle two to nothing, and it

didn't feel like they deserve to win that game. You need a coach that could be cool under pressure, and he was. You're saying, fire Belichick, there's your narrative in that moment. The only perfect the only perfect thing for the Patriots was NBC's coverage of Steve Belichick sideline shots. Give me more of it. I don't know what's going on with that guy, but I love him. Um yeah, I mean this. The the shame of it is for Belichick is you were if if Nick Folk who you know.

It should be stated, it's not like he was so out of his depth on that kick in terms of range that he was missed it by seven yards and it hit the end zone. He hit the pipe, He hit the pipe and it fell the wrong way. But it's still was a very difficult make uh. In the Brady would have gotten Brady would have gone back and won the game. That's my problem with it. Well maybe you would have. But yeah, Mac Jones considering um what he had done in this game, thirty two touchdowns one

and I really like Mac Jones. I like so much of what I've seen. I know he struggled last week a little bit, but I think he would have been a guy I would have felt comfortable giving him the game in that spot at fourth and three. But Belichick is not there yet, and I'm sure if Tom Brady was his quarterback in that spot, Tom's probably going for it there and fourth and three. It's not Nick Folk for fifty six. So they're in the processed. Listen, it's

a transition feel for the game that you're in. You know they're trying to play this specific style. But in that moment, it didn't feel like he had a feel for what the game. That the frustration for Belichick and and he never really really reveals anything on the sideline, but you saw his face with drop when they hit the the upright. He had done such a great job overall. Tom Brady the big story, and everyone thought it was the prediction for everyone. So Greg locked up the buck

and congratulations buddy on your big yikes. But Tom Brady everyone thought was gonna go in there and shred the Patriots. And I know the weather played a role, I guess, But forty three to sixty nine, he does not throw a touchdown in his return to New England. He gets the all time passing yardage record from Drew Brees. But they did a great job keeping Brady off kilter and

from getting kept them from getting into a rhythm. And Mac Jones on the other side, if you would have told me Brady doesn't throw a touchdown, Mac Jones has nineteen straight completions at one point. Uh, you're I'm telling you. The Patriots win. So it's just and they hold the Bucks under twenty it's hold the Bucks under twenty points.

It's just a little that I know, it's nonsense to all the die hard analytics people and every it's a little bit of that Brady magic involved, and it's just to see it be done to New England and New England was interesting to me. I mean, it was fascinating. I mean for this game to happen at all, I

guess I wasn't looking forward to it. I'm glad it's over, um, but it also just reminded me of how like blessed and ridiculous the last two decades have been as a Patriots fan, and to just like be grateful, Uh, you don't know how long this life is gonna be. Just be grateful that you got that as a sports fan and even got a night like this, because right now the Patriots might not be involved in many big Sunday

night the entire NFL is watching, and you're surprising. I'm just saying, right now, this team and they were surprising that this was the ultimate I said, they've been trying to turn it back to two thousand and one, and this was a two thousand and one type of game. They had some conviction. They didn't, you know, run the ball basically the whole night. They ended up with negative running yardage because they had a game plan that made some sense. They started out with Mac Jones playing hurry

up and spread in the very first drive. It was a statement of intent. Uh, there, we're not gonna run the ball against Beautevan too. This is the way we think we're gonna win. It gives us the best chance, and you know what, it worked, and they mixed up all those coverages. Everything was playing pretty well. Didn't work. I mean defensively, I think the most part. Offensively, I mean eight carries for negative one yards. You're punting on that side of the ball entirely without even it seems

like not even testing the running game. And then poor J. J. Taylor becomes the latest Patriot running back to lose a fumble. I mean, it should be said on the four on the seven attempts to run they did have, they gained four yards and that that was actually no, they gained uh negative one yards and that was alcalar so. I mean they're running backs literally had negative yardage for the game.

What I mean is like all the coverage changing and everything that they did try to slow down Brady, like in theory, it worked and it and it did work for the most part. But Brady missed a ton of throws in the first half that were there. He also hit some gems, but he seemed a little hyped up

for the game. They had him scrambled and the reality is, even though it came down to that kick, like Tom Brady through the game winning pass, he made the play to win the game that everyone will remember from this game, Antonio Brown just dropped it. The first time he couldn't see it, and the second time he dropped it. Tom Brady through one of the best passes you know, he could possibly throw. That should have been the last throw he ever made at Foxboro and it goes right off

of Antonio Brown's hands. The Patriots, to me, were very fortunate to have that opportunity. They got a couple of lucky calls, uh in that final drive. They got a couple of lucky breaks. I thought throughout the game where they got penalties, or that the Bucks missed out on some open players. There's some opportunities, so to me, like things were going right for them until the very end when they went wrong. And as far as Tampa bagoes, so they moved to three and one. They bounced back

after the loss of the Rams last week. They do have a lot of problems though, and it's just something to keep an eye on, especially on defense. Carlton Davis he got carded with a I don't know if he got card it actually, but he left with a quad injury and was immediately ruled out, and that does not look good. Antoine Winfield Jr. He leaves in the second

half with an injury. They've already they were already down enough cornerbacks that Richard Sherman is playing snaps for this team, someone who had been out of football for months and months. Uh So, they have a lot of issues in their back end and that is going to continue to be a challenge for them. But this is just one of those games where, hey, you're not gonna get a lot of style points, but you got the W and you get the hell out of there and try to regroup.

But you know, last my last thought is, I mean, come on, Bill, listen. I'm a competitor too. I don't I don't care if it's whiffleball or if it's an intermurural basketball or co ed softball. Like I'm a competitor, and like after a game, I'm not gonna be chummy with everyone. But it's all connected. Like he can't can't meet Tom at midfield and like share a moment with him. He can't do it. It has to be a good job, Tom, And then run the other way, Ricky where we're taking

to him. He ran from that. He gave a hug. It's cold and rainy, and and he gave him a hug and left. What do you what do you want him to do? He actually about have a little conversation and understand the magnitude of your bond and what you did together. Why does every Maybe there's something after bigger than that though, like you think anything to do with their bond is gonna be a factor, And like what the outside world thinks in that moment if if they have it, and I believe that they do, like it

doesn't mean anything. That's but Josh McDaniels embraced was beautiful. Well that was there was actually some feeling there. Well that's all I'm saying. And you could poop poo it and say it doesn't matter what the public season, it's what's happening, Like is if they're in a deep and loving you know, like they're in like a deep and loving embrace in the tunnel right now. My point is whatever connection that they have with each other, they know,

it's like they have an understanding. Tom Brady knows who Bill Belichick is. After the game, you think Tom Brady is going over if they lose that game and making like a heartfelt hug to Bill Belichick. No, he's the same bad loser as old Belichick. Like they know it, and it's not something that they're going to take personal. Maybe it's the deep sadness that they both know they should still be together. I thought this game was going

to be a blood bath. So just the fact that I came down to a final kick like this was more than I could have expected. And I had a wonderful Sunday night watching. All Right, I'm glad you're taking that. Yeah, lots of like from Mac Jones and the defense like really did scramble Brady, So that was That's the thing though, Like for all the credit that Mac Jones got from Chris Collinsworth and and he does seem ahead of the

game in certain ways. It's like they were missing their top four players and then in the secondary and you had a chance to go win the game. But New England Patriots like what there? It doesn't matter And people should know by the way that trash bro um. I did save a spot for Greg to sit next to me in the NFL Network theater to watch the second half of this game. I even got him a water actually this time that I kind of cleared the even dusted it off a little bit at the table. You're

drinking it right now. Well, because talk about performing for the public. Greg rolls in and I'm I'm seated, you know, chair five, and I have chair six, Chair seven, chair eight. Greg's at chair nine. There were ten people in there. Everyone is sitting five ft apart because we're in the middle of a pandemic, and also when you're in a nice, big place, you all sit a little bit apart. We were all talking or choking the whole time, talk about uh, doing it for show. You didn't tell me that was

my water. I could have used the water, but you sent it out on Twitter. I didn't even know until after the game because I wasn't checked. I think it goes without especially after last week's you know, really disappointing situation. Chair seven was your spot, but for you to go chair nine, chair eleven. We're in the same row were a Belichick after a There's fifteen people talking, We're honking the whole time. I'm we're giving analysis, we're cracking jucks.

M j D s there and Dan sending these little tweets out and not even telling me because I'm not I'm not paying attention to social media during the game. I'm all ball. I know you're all ball, but how about some traditional male bonding. We did it. We were cracking jokes until you're until you just want to do a bit at the end of the game, like it's seven was yours, but you chose not to take it. All right, We're on the flight to London on Tuesday. If if everything is wide open on that plane, we

could each have our own road. No, I'm gonna sit right next to you, because that's what you do when there's wide open seats everywhere. You just you just sit right next to them and say, hey, is that my water? I mean, I assume that's your water. Now you're just you know, piling on you. You've hurt me, and now you're trying to apologize for this. I won't. I apologize for locking up the bucks that I do apologize what a mistake. I will not. I will not do such

a thing again. All right, let's move on. Let's check in now with the rest of the Sunday action played under the sunlight? What starting with a game played? No one has ever people say under the moonlight. No one's ever actually said under the sunlight until this moment, very proud moment for my h in my broadcasting career. I had to say, Greg, what game was under the sunlight. I'm on the edge of my seat. Well, let's start across the sidewalk. It's so far as stadium. Whose house

is this? Kyler's house? I wasn't even playing stop stafter Kyler short set, moving to us right a little bit now, throwing deep far side and it's pulled in at the five yard line by a J. Green hit at the ends off of a touchdown. Hey Jay Green just too strong, too big, too athletic. Oh my goodness, you know you're in trouble. Rams Nation Day passed with called Cardinals Radio network. Kyler Murray passed for two state yards and two touchdowns,

including that past a J. Green. And by the way, I back off a J has been He's been a net game so far for that offense. Anyway, another m v P level performance of Kyler. But this whole team steps up. The Cardinals remain unbeaten with a thirty seven twenty trouncing of the Rams in Los Angeles. And Greg, this is a game. You know, again not to keep mentioning this, but it does for what we do for

a living. It just jumps out at you when we talk about all these things that we're worried about entering the season, he thinks, Oh, this guy better get his act together because he's not so good. Well, Cliff Kingsbury is a guy that got plenty of criticism and doubts heading into the season, and he just went into l a against a very good Rams defense and he saw his guys put up four sixty five and just take it to the Rams. How about that they could have put a forty burger on him. They had a chance

like early in the fourth quarter to do so. And you're right, before the season, it wasn't just us like kind of wondering about Kingsbury. It was everyone putting them last place in the division. And here they are four No, you could argue have the best resume of any team in the league. And I think with Vance Joseph in this defense, it reminds me a little bit of the old Saints Greg Williams defenses or Greg Williams in general, where it's like they're pretty boom er bust, but they

make big plays. And in the first half of this game, when you know they they intercept Matthew Stafford. Uh, they forced the fumble and they get a lead, like they aren't looking back. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. And then in the second half they go on these long drives against the Rams offense, which is almost begging them to run and

and this time they were able to do it. Like James Conner didn't have a great game, but Chase Edmonds twenty yards on the ground and like they have these long drives and the Rams couldn't get the ball back. It was one sided. They did whatever they wanted through the air, on the ground and then on the other side of the ball. Okay, so you say, all right, so the Rams are struggling to stop a high powered offense that happens all the all the time an hour league.

Now then you're thinking, oh, it's gonna be a shootout. But no, because Matthew Stafford, I would say this was his first game and there was a little lipstick on the pig late. This is the first game where I would say he was ineffective. And you know, I think a big game changing play. Greg we talked about it. Um in the third quarter. Uh, they get stopped at

the goal line. It looks like Stafford got in. Uh, they decided not to challenge it, and you could understand why in mcveigh's mind, Tron mcveigh's mind, why he did that. He's thinking, I can't risk losing the time out here. I'm gonna keep it in my back pockets. I need to make a comeback here. We're gonna score. We have two chances to get in from the one, but they don't, And that to me was kind of the turning point

of this. Yeah, I mean, they would have had to make a great comeback, and I don't know if their defense could have helped. Higbie doesn't catch the pass there, but it did kind of just kept me thinking about how they they just haven't been great in terms of handing the ball off and maybe they won't need to. But I just thought coming into this game, the Cardinals

rush defense was vulnerable. They got steamrolled by Minnesota. I think Jacksonville pushed them around upfront actually in the running game, and normally with Jared Goff the Cardinal killer, that's what you would have seen. I mean, we spent this all year talking about what what Jared Goff can't do. What he can do is beat the Cardinals seven out of eight times. Uh. And so this win has to feel really sweet for Cliff Kingsbury because it's an offensive league

and this is an offensive team. It just feels like they've now got enough pieces where his offense makes sense because I've seen some people be like, you know, Cliff is they're running the exact same place exactly, like they are the same Cardinals offense, and now they have the talent to make it. Where can they have, you know, arguably the best quarterback in the league right now, one of the top couple. I mean, as long as they

could keep him healthy. They couldn't last year. And he's not the biggest guy, So you worry about how this works over seventeen games. But if they can, they're going to continue to put up points in the defense of place. At this level, they are gonna win a lot of games. And they are four no now and they have a chance. Are really despite everyone else going the other way preseason, including us, including everybody, they can win this division. They

have that type of ceiling. And Sean McVeigh has coached against the Cardinals nine times. Greg this is the first time he went down. Wow, first time, so big, big performance. Jason Zumwald dancing in the streets. Is this a statement? This is like maybe the statement game of the young season. I mean, you know, Greg, because I said it to the in the in the new news room. It's actually and you oomlot room that I said it. That's a

statement game. You don't believe in statement games. You're on Clay Bond corner with that, Like those things don't matter. Momentum doesn't matter. There's no such thing as statements. That's a statement because the Ram had an official position. But this gets the Rams are in the locker room licking their wounds and thinking to themselves, Oh now we got to go to the desert to play them. These guys are for real. They also know they gotta have a

quick turnaround. Play on Thursday night, another big division game, and suddenly the card those are at the top of the division called the Curse of the Power rankings. The Rams, I hope you enjoyed your six days stay it's over at number one. Speaking of over the undefeated season of the Roncos. Head to Mile High, Rocos rushed for Jackson with time going deep. He's looking at Hollywood proud at the five. He reaches up any nights Hollywood Brown, welcome

back to the end zone for a touchdown. Jerry's and Dusky w b a L See my voice is back right, It's no, it's not money Smith. But when it's humming, it's fine. It's good. It's a good little weapon. Totally totally took a shot last week June, Carlos Stanton buried me. It's all the way back. I mean, if yours is a weapon, what's mine? You know, I don't know you

answer that question. Lamar Jackson through for three hundred sixteen yards, including that forty nine yard touchdown past to a diving Hollywood and thank god, Hollywood, you needed a catch a ball and it was an ice catch. And the Ravens combined offensive prowess with another great defensive performance or a great defensive performance beating the Broncos seven. As I said, the Broncos were undefeated no longer. Greg Denver lost Teddy Bridgewater to a concussion in this game, But it sounds

like this loss was more about more than just that. Yeah, Teddy gone. At halftime. Score was seventeen to seven. At that point, I keep this notebook that you know you're keep the notebook, and I you know, I never write the winner, you know, until the very end of the game, unless I'm feeling like ultraconfidence. When Locke came in, I wrote in Ravens left the score empty, wrote Ravens. I knew it was over, and I don't think it would

have mattered if Teddy was out there. When when Bridge writer was there, he threw the ball sixteen times, got sixty five yards. The Ravens dominated this game up front, and they're and they're winning offensively in surprising ways to me. You would think a game where they're ahead the whole time, they're gonna rush at forty five times, they're gonna rack up these rushing yards. Rushing net today one hundred and

two yards for the Ravens. They actually were pass heavy, like they still throw the ball thirty seven times and only ran it. I think thirty. They're going deep. It's not gonna create a lot of consistency on offense. But Lamar hit a couple of the deep throws today. He had that one to Hollywood Brown, a couple of nice throws to Mark Andrews, and uh, it was like enough they protected him and the defense got after it. It just gets me thinking, like whenever I doubt this Ravens

defense over the last five or six years. It's just like they just find guys. They find a way in oada fe oh Way. Their number one pick to me would be the defensive rookie of the year or the month other than Michael Parsons. Like Michael Parsons has just been crazy. But this guy, oh Way just has crazy athleticism where if you're into washing past watching pass rushers, he's a good guy to just watch snap after snap

because his athleticism is just outrageous. So Bolt teams punched on their first three possessions uh before finding the end zone. There was only six points uh to Justin tucker Field goals uh in the second half, so a lot of this damage was done in the middle portion of the game. And Tucker, by the way, I heard because we're all no, well never everyone's caught up to the beauty of Justin Tucker.

Now he gets the pregame reports that he was banging seventy yard ors before this game in the uh the light air of Colorado, and that I'm too bad he didn't get a chance to do that. But yeah, I mean, I guess this is with the Broncos. It's a wait and see situation. Now with Teddy, it's a concussion. You never know which way that's gonna go. But Drew Lock, I think you told me downstairs. The restless crowd in Denver does not want to see Drew Lock on the field.

There was some and it was like mixed booze when he came out for the game. Now, maybe they didn't know Bridgewater was heard at the time and they thought they were just benching him, and they were like booing that decision partly. But Locked struggled. He didn't know what he was seeing. This happens. But his first fifteen dropbacks, I think he had fifty six yards passing, but had taken three or fourth acts in that so like net yards, they had almost nothing. They've just lost too many players.

Bridgewater is their eighth starter who's now out. That's a lot like it. It's a big number. Yeah, for a team that you know I liked, but it was talented. That's just a lot going on there. Uh. And they lost Patrick certain very late in this game to a chest injury, so that would make nine. They need to get healthy. And I just give the Ravens a ton of credit for getting through this first month of the

season three and one. I know they got a little bit of a break there in Detroit, but ultimately, like it was a tough first month schedule, They're gonna get healthier and they're up. You know, they're three and one, and I don't I don't like to do too much look ahead on the Sunday Night show because that's what we have later in the week. Um. And by the way, later in the week, we will be in London. Hello,

let's get that out there. Remind the people that we will be uh on a plane and traveling to England for the Jets Falcons game at the Big Top. Looking forward to that. Um. But you look at Denver three and one at Pittsburgh, Now that used to be a really tough game. Well, I don't know what to make sense of the Steelers anymore. But after at Pittsburgh home,

Raiders at Brown's Home, Washington at Cowboys. So if the Broncos are good, Greg, and if they can get some guys back, of course, but attrition is part of the game, Greg, so you can, but don't bail. Now, I'm not bailing, but it's also an important part of the game. It's you know, Kendall Hinton, our old buddy who took quarterbacks napster them last year. Now was like their third receiver, that was one of their top positions, and they did not get much of a pass rush. I'm fascinated just

this Broncos. This Ravens team is just kind of I think confident that the Broncos wouldn't get much of a pass rush. And they're just you know, dialing up plays a little differently this year, and they're winning game this game pretty easily. All right, let's move on. In fact, let's welcome in m one of our favorite people. What's up, baby, what's up? Guys? How are you doing? How are you

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he rules to the left. He's throwing towards the end soon and it is in complete. The ends on it complete of the ends on broke it up by Jot and the third. That's the end of the game and the Pros winning on the road here in Minneapolis. There what three in a row. Jim Donovan with a good call w k r K. The Browns allowed to touchdown drive on the Vikings first possession, but then the stout Cleveland d said that's enough shutting out Minnesota and that's

ensuing him. Ovens possessions in seven win at US Banks Stadium. It's a big road win. Shookie, Miles Garrett and the Browns front seven harass Kirk Cousins made them earn every single yard. And you know, Kevin's the Fancy's gotta be pinching himself in his return to Minnesota. Yeah he does, you know the I don't know if I would say he's the prodigal son. But somewhere along those lines, Returns gets a hard fought win, a really kind of an ugly game. If you're a fan of defense, you loved it.

But offensively, there was a lot to be desired from both sides, kirk Cousins marches him right down the field to begin with. They look like they're they've game planned well, they know exactly how to attack this Brown's defense. They even convert a fourth and one and that was it five three and ounce from there kirk Cousins with an interception. Um, they actually probably got one more chance than they deserved at the end and still couldn't convert. A concerning day

for Vikings fans. If you're thinking about your offense after you come off, you know, scoring thirty plus points last week, you can't put more than seven on the board. But if you're a Browns fan two straight weeks for that defense is absolutely dominated and it's certainly one you this game today. It's the most surprising thing to me that I saw today was that in the second half of this game there were fourteen possessions and there were three points. And these are two of the best offenses in the

NFL coming into this game. So explained that for me, Shookie, Well, I could I could help you out with that as well, because Baker Mayfield played poorly in this game, including a a kind of end the game touchdown should have been walking for Odell misfire. His accuracy was out the door and it's been that way for two weeks. Shook. What's going on with Baker? Yeah, we talked about this last week. Greg. I think you said if if a box score can tell a story, you know this might be the game

that tells the story. Well, Baker Mayfield's box score can completely tell his story. He was poorly. Is putting it nice? Dan? And I don't mean. I don't mean to pile on a guy who had a bad day. Baker was horrible today. The only thing he didn't do wrong was turn the ball over. This is probably his worst game as a pro in which he did not turn the ball over. Fifteen a thirty three overall missing guys had every depth

of target on the entire field. Odell Beckham Jr. Could have back pedaled into the end zone for a game ceiling touchdown if he puts it on him in the right spot. He was. He was so arrant that it made you wonder if maybe the shoulder injury or injury that they had on his non throwing shoulder was affecting him because it was just that bad. It was it

was inexplicable. But they were still good offensively on the ground, Nick Chubb twenty one carries a hundred yards and Kareem Hunt really defined that offense in the first half, both in the running game in the passing game. He had a long pickup on a draw that that ended up coming down to it kind of advanced the chains and put them in position to kick a field before half, which ended up being big. Um. You the Browns have been you know, you said that they're one of the

better offenses in the NFL. Statistically. That might be true, but for the last three weeks, the Browns have really been kind of stuck in the mud offensively. The only difference in the last two games has been that their defense has really picked them up extremely in this game. So they still have a lot of things to figure out.

And I think the biggest common underlying theme here is they don't have Jarvis Landry and it's really hurting Baker Mayfield in his ability to move the ball through the air. They ran, they ran for four. I guess why I would put them there is they've been efficient passing the ball, and the running game is the best week after week overall, and they and they were able to in a game

where both of these teams really want to run. Only one was able to and that was the winning And it might be annoying to uh Nick Chubb fantasy owners, but it's just it just hums that offense when they have Kareem Hunt actively involved and they're doing it as

a two headed monster in it, it does it. It kind of it's good for Cleveland because it does bail you out when Baker has these games, and unfortunately Baker he has these stretches, it seems because he's inaccuracy this week especially what really I struggle to wrap my head around Baker with this, Nick, because when he is on, he doesn't miss at all, Like he'll have those nineteen of twenty one type games where he has Steve Young like accuracy, and then this will happen. Is it a

mechanical issue? Like what where? Where does this come from? Where Baker is all over the map in terms of accuracy. Sometimes it comes within rhythm where he's just kind of out of rhythm or he's you know, double clutching that type of thing forcing balls. That wasn't really the case today. The case was just he simply wasn't hitting open guys.

I mean, it was it truly was difficult to explain watching on TV figuring out how you're missing a dump off to Kareem Hunt on third down, You're missing O'Dell down the field when he's open. You're missing guys at every depth, just throwing high passes through the hands of receivers. Somebody tweeted me early in the game and said, why aren't they catching Baker's passes because he threw a couple of high ones that kind of went through their hands,

but they were a little out of reach. By the fourth quarter, it was clear why they weren't catch him because he couldn't put it in their catch radius. So he needs to figure that out, and he admitted after the game that he played very poorly. So if you're a Browns fan, you hope that they that he bounces back. But it's also really been a test I think of Kevin Stefanski and his ability to get into a rhythm as a play caller, because I think he's gotten a

little too cute offensively. They definitely did two weeks ago in against Houston, they did a little bit against Chicago, and then they did late in this game where this is a team, as we all know They're built to finish games by pounding it on the ground with Chub

and Hunt. And they had a possession late in the game where all they had to do was just get a couple of first downs, chew the clock and kind of salt away the victory, and they decided to throw it with a quarterback who wasn't accurate for most of the day, and that's what resulted in that Beckham in completion on third down. And it was just like, that's not how you close out a game. That's not who you are. You need to go back to who you are and understand your identity. But they're three and one.

They're winning close games, they're avoiding losing games that they very much. We have lost the pack. I do wander like his progress, you know, his latest ad. Yeah, you know, I feel like a little bit down, and I just wonder if that's like getting in his head, like because he's not getting as much. You know, Mark might be listening. So he's been great in the past, but this this the latest. You think it's like the cut that meat. It's like you jumped the shark and away, um well

perhaps and on the Viking side. Before we move on, I'll just mention this um as great as they look last week, I didn't think they never necessarily looked even terrible. I'm just terrible in this game on offense. I think it was just a really good Cleveland defense that was locked in, but Dalvin Cook aggravated that ankle issue and he was able to come back in the game when

they were trying to get that late score. But it's just something to track because Cooke, we know, has his injury issues staying healthy, and if it's something that he you know, he was forced to sit out multiple series, it's something that might he might have to deal with for a long time this season, if not for the balance of the season. So keep an eye on that from Minnesota. All right, we're gonna move on to Big

D the Cowboys rising right after this. Prescott and the gun looking right pumps throws it downtop by robson the fog spite st rocking the dog opening the game, painting defense touchdown. Zeke Elliott went three and Dak Prescott through four touchdown passes including that game. I sorted Cedric Wilson

the Cowboys romp about the final score. It was over the Panthers also knocked from the ranks of the unbeaten, but this turned into a blowout shook the Cowboys look like an offensive force, while the Panthers learned this football thing is hard against the good teams. Yeah, an offensive force that's missed his rushing attack. Uh and number twenty one for a little over a year who definitely went back to his premiere form this week. Zeke was fast, he hit the hole's hard, and he ripped off multiple

long runs that really got their offense going. And you have to give credit as well to Tony Pollard who was like the perfect complimentary back to Zeke, and they both were gashing Carolina's defense in the first half and the second half. Zeke ripped off a forty seven yard run um in the second half that kind of propelled them toward another scoring possession and kind of basically it was like the almost the dagger um in that game as part of that run in the second half where

they overcame a deficit. But it was a complete effort from them offensively. Dad didn't have to do that much, you know, only through two passes because Zeke was doing so well on the ground and Tony Pollard deck ran a little bit as well. And and the defense. You know, this is something that we that we gave the Cowboys so much um grief for it last year. It was their sieve of a defense and instead this year, dan Quinn's work is starting to show. It's namely in the

way that Travon Digs has played. You had two interceptions again today. Uh they both led to points. Ten total points overall, one touchdown on the field goal. And other guys like Michael Parsons are playing really well. You know,

as a group, they're playing total team defense. It's all coming together and we're starting to see a Cowboys team, don't don't you know, I'm not this is not hyperbole here, but we are starting to see a Cowboys team that is potentially fulfilling what we thought we'd see from them last year the year before on paper. They're starting to really bring that to life on the field so far. And this is probably I know they had a big win on Sunday Night last week, but this is probably

their most impressive win to date. I mean, I don't think it's not like we need to wait to hype up the Cowboys there if they're not the best. The offense in the league. Yeah, their second or third at worst. I mean, they're they're almost They're unstoppable. It's not like you need to see much more than that that. The defense doesn't even need to be good for them to be Super Bowl contenders. They threw the ball twenty six times last week, scored forty one points. They threw it

twenty two times this week, scored thirty six points. The Panthers supposedly, you know, statistically had the best rush defense in the league coming into this game. Uh, the Cowboys set a record where it was five point five yards before contact on average running the ball in this game. So that is just an offensive line that is steamrolling opponents. And now we know they can steam roll good opponents.

And if the running game is that good dac you know, making the decisions and being able to be so accurate, I don't know, man, I would I would take them over any offense in the league right now. I think the the stat that kind of proved because this is this is a litmus test for them, right at least a little bit against the defense that was playing with its hair on fire through the first three weeks in Carolina, and we were like, well, We'll see how the Cowboys

do against this defense. Maybe they are for real, maybe they're not. The Cowboys scored thirties six points and five rushing yards Sunday. Right before that, the Panthers had only allowed thirty total points and a hundred thirty five rushing yards in their first three games. So you want to talk about dominance in a statement game, it was definitely that. It's a great like reminder of like defensive rankings is almost entirely predictive on the teams you've played if you

just like to do the math to it. Because in this game, I think they almost had a gholston, which is our word for no quarterback hits, no sacks. I believe they touched Doc one time. And we could be better by the way, as um a football industry, when you go thrown around things like wow, it's gonna be some showdown between the high flying Cowboys and football's number one defense the Panthers, Like WHOA, you have to earn being I don't care about the statistical side of things.

You have to earn that type of title. And they didn't put up any resistance Carolina, But what about on the offensive side of the ball. First game, full game without Christian McCaffrey. Did you see anything in the Running game while McCaffrey is out to build on and what about Sam Donald? Well, the headline in the Running Game is Sam Donalds two rushing touchdowns. But I'll get to that in a second, because Tuba Hubbard does deserve a little bit of credit. He has been a pretty hard

runner for them in a decent replacement for McCaffrey. But he's obviously not Christian McCaffrey, and they do need more on the ground overall. Having said that, Sam Donald's two rushing touchdowns today, uh, five rushing touchdowns in the year. He you know, he's He's putting up outrageous rushing numbers when it comes to touchdowns for quarterbacks, especially from a guy like him. He scrambled on multiple attempts to pick

up first downs. Yes, but the thing is is I still need to see a little bit more from him in terms of consistency through the air. He threw two interceptions today that immediately lead to points for the Cowboys and totally swung the game in favor of Doubts. I mean, Carolina was punch for punch with them through the first half and into the third quarter. Sam's mistakes put them in a position where they had to fight, you know, an uphill battle, and they basically ran out of time.

I do give them credit, though, you know, it's a young team and they fought to the end. They just kind of ran out of time. But if they didn't dig themselves that whole, which Sam basically dug for them, then we might be talking out a different outcome and potentially a statement went for the Panthers. So right now, you know, we've all talked about how Sam has improved in so many different areas, but a couple of the areas that we know that he still hasn't gotten better

at ball security when getting sacked. He didn't really fumble the ball away today even though he got sacked five times. But those two interceptions proved to be the difference that just like on the defensive side of the ball. And that's not to totally denigrate what they did in the first three weeks, because they did win three games, but

the true tests with Donald has yet to come. And and maybe this sounds like it was little up and down obviously, all right, one more game was Shookie um Let's head to lambau Field and the snap rush on Rogers with time initially wakes though, what's up? He's done? Touchdown? That's why Aaron wanted his boy Randall back Wayne Larvy with the call w TMJ. I guess whatever. Rogers connected with Randall cop for two touchdowns and he ran for

another score. Rogers did is the Packers beat the Steelers seventeen, their third straight win. Uh, Rogers are steady here, shookie. But Pittsburgh now has lost three straight after that week one win in Buffalo, and they haven't scored more than seventeen points. So are we in an in any of

those games? Are we at a place now and Steelers football where anything involving a shootout, they're just not gonna be competitive, Yes, although I don't know if necessarily there'll be in a ton of shootouts if their defense is healthy, and their defense is what kept them in this game today. But when it comes to them possessing the ball, it is it is a struggle. You know. I remember a couple of weeks ago or so, Greg had said about Carson Wentz. Why does everything have to be so hard?

That is the Steelers? Why does everything have to go so hard? For them with the football in their hands on fourth and less than five or less than seven. It is a disaster. It's comical, like it's to the point where I hope they get the ball fourth and seven or less because I want to see how they're gonna mess it up. You know, they again fourth in one today they come out trips bunch tied to the left, naj Harris, and they got to the right. And I sit there and look at the screen. I got this

is a dump off to Harris. And guess what everybody in Lambo Stadium, including the Packers entire defense, namely Jaire Alexander, they also knew that was coming dump off the Harris loss of yards turnover on downs fourth and five later, what do we do? A one yard drag? Did Juju Smith Schuster who gets wrapped up and reaches out in vain a full six feet short of the first down line to gain on fourth and five another turnover on downs? That right there, uh captures what the Steelers are offensively.

They cannot move the ball quickly. They do move the ball sometimes, but they can't convert the downs that they need to. It all starts with Ben Roethlisberger, also that offensive line that's still young, cannot create a lot of room for Naja Harris to work. Doesn't give Ben Roethlisberger a lot of time to throw. But his lack of mobility, his age is very much showing forty today, seventy eight

point three pass reading after one one touchdown interception. It just I think he's in the Gabbar zone here again very much. It's ugly. We are we are getting to the point where I tweeted today, it's mind numbing watching them trying to move the football. The end, it is absolutely perplexing. The end is it's it rarely ends well for these guys, and it's happening like we saw with Eli Manning and the Giants, who was in the same draft class, that's happening now for Big Ben, and I

just wonder um show him. By the way, do you think Juju Smith Schuster is reconsidering that decision to stay in that That's what it was. Eight targets today for eleven yards. The only decision worse than bringing back Ben was Juju picking the Steelers. He took less money over the Chiefs. I don't buy that. I think that was a little pr but either way, like, uh yeah he could, but he could be catching passes for Patrick. I mean it feels like Shook that if if it was another situation,

and it's it's the same. It's what got Ben McAdoo fired in New York. By the way, when you're like, let me move move away from the veteran who's won the Super Bowls, but they don't really have anybody back there that unless you're Dwayne Haskins fan or a Mason Rudolph guy. I guess they're gonna ride it out or do you think there's any chance we might start hearing some rumbles about job security here? Well, that's the thing is. You know a good friend of mine, I do a

podcast with his name, Sean, A small plug. There's a Steelers fans the podcast, it's the Seaun and Shook Podcast. You find all right when you tape it, because then he's going to criticize your role out just trying. He tried to promote his own podcast. He didn't say the name, so no, I know, not not the marketing genius right here. Um,

he's a Steeler fan. And when we've talked about this at length, it's just he's like, do we see a change, and I'm like, you know as as well as I know that that that's not going to happen because of who Ben Roethlisberg is what I fear for Steeler fans. I know it's really but what I fear for them is that this turns into a Derek Jeter retirement tour and and as the Steelers try to work out the kinks and point to their youth at so many other positions, they just ride it out until the end of the

season and then take the next step. The thing is, as you mentioned Mason Rudolph, he's not even under team control so like beyond this year, so it might not be him and I end up being Dwayne Haskins. There's no clear plan, like you said, which I think also points to the fact that I don't think they move on from Ben because they have nowhere else to go. I just think they kind of take their lumps and try to figure it out as they go. My real question is Randy Finger took all the heat last year

for their offenses. Um, you know, just breakdown down the stretch last year. T Yeah, does he get held to the same standards because I'm not seeing anything better except for some pre snap motion. That's it. No, I think you can blame the players. I think it's fine too. It's it's fine to blame the offensive line unless Jason Garretts d O C and then Greg would blame I'm saying in this case, like, what's the commonality? What's the commonality?

Now it's all there, It's all laid bare for the Steelers. And this was always within the range of outcomes that we're not writing them off. It's it's October three or whatever. But this was always within the range of outcomes when we were talking about this team leading into it could go bad. So far, it's the two games. There are

two games behind three different teams in their division. We should give some credit though to the accords when I watched them, especially like today, like they to me seem like the purest Shanahan offense there is right now, Like they got the outside zone running against the Steelers, which to me is impressive. Dylan Aaron Jones didn't pop off in terms of his numbers, but he had a couple of big plays like the week one seems so far away for both of these teams. It's just it's just

a long way away for both these teams. Yeah, you have to be excited if you're a Packers fan just from the consistency you're seeing from this offense. Yeah, they didn't put up a ton of points, but they moved the football effectively. And the Steelers got away with what I think was a tripping call that ended up being a sack credited T. J. Watt that kind of um stalled the drive that was probably gonna end up in a touchdown for them as well. So maybe you know,

four more points on the board for them there. They are consistent, they're effective. It seems like they've worked through their growing pains that they had in Week one. And you know, when you get a guy like Randall Cops too touchdown passes, you're like, hey, we don't have to just go to Davante Adams. We can go to a

number of different guys and still score points. So, um, you know, I have nothing bad to say about them, um Ji Alexander his card off after this game, so hopefully or during this game after he made that tackle on Naga Harris, so hopefully that they avoid something serious there with that. But overall, um, you have to feel confident about them, all right, CHUCKI thank you, buddy. We're gonna be obviously in London taping our show next Sunday.

I don't know what that means, time zone wise, whether you're gonna be involved with our show, but if it all sinks up, we'd love to see you over the ocean next week, buddy. Thank you. We can do that virtually, you know. Just we have to agree now, no usage of across the pond. No across the pond, all right now, Tory, I'm going across the pond. There goes Shookie. Let's head to the link where the Chiefs try to get back

on track. They're doing six for the Chiefs. Last player be full the tree minute warning Chiefs were gonna throw it here and my homes are throwing it up. He's got tyreek cal Offen and calls it up touched off chance City Homes. What he wanted, single coverage and a whole half of the field to let the Cheetah run as far and as long as he could. Mitch Holter's w d a f you know, Matt money Smith, the voice of God on this podcast, having like a tantrum

on the power rankings together. Every Tuesday, NFL Network, three pm eastern noon Pacific about the Chiefs being in trouble and their offense being in trouble. Oh please, you got Patrick Mahomes. That's the answer. Then he threw five touchdown passes in many ways. He threw like a ski ball shot uh for a touchdown. He did a shovel for a touchdown. He threw a deep bomb there to Tyreek

for a touchdown. Tyreek at three touchdowns, Chiefs over Eagles, and uh, you know this is what Kansas City looks like when they play a cleaner game on offense, and they hadn't been cleaned in recent weeks. The killer fumble against the Ravens late in that game, four turnovers last week in uh an upset loss, and now you play a clean game, you get forty two points. The other team's gonna score because the Chiefs continue Gregg to have

issues on defense. But the Eagles, as they did um last week, kill themselves and two weeks ago as well, kill themselves with unforced errors, three touchdowns negated by penalty resulting in three four point plays. You know that's what the old Michae Lombardi saying, you probably took them from parcels when you leave a touchdown on the field, kick a field goal, you'll lose four points. Well, do the math three of those. I'm not great at it. Four times three is twelve. You lost Payne. They led the

league and penalties coming into this week. I think they had set the Eagles record for most penalties in a three week span. That's concerning, not shocking. I mean, the Chiefs actually lose the turnover battle in this game one and nothing, uh, and they still put up forty two. It It's funny because with the Chiefs, it's like people

are like they haven't really developed their offense. They haven't really like changed it that much in the last few years, and they're not really getting anything beyond Tyreek Hill and Kelsey and it's it's like, uh, yeah, you don't even really need to and you still put up forty two on the Eagles and the only reason the Chargers beat you is because you've turned it over four times. So

I'm not worried about the offense. And they got the running game going, which I think is is a big sign for them because I think they will need to run it efficiently at least to be the team that they need to. They're gonna have to put up four to each week at this rate. They will. By the way, speaking of offense, no defense, we got a little jackpot in this game, and this surprised me for only the fourth time. That's our jackpot for only the fourth time.

I thought it was going to be more like you would hear the coins falling, Ricky, and maybe some buzz in the crowd. Let's let's work on our jackpot sound effects for next week. Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, the crowd ambiance. That's a bad job on me. I

should have I'm not I'm not pointing fingers. I'm saying I think we, the collective, we could be better with that no punt game that hit it again, Hit it again, Jack Bay Brent Musburger is gonna sue me because, for the only the fourth time in NFL history, Greg there was no punts in a game, and it happened here. The chief scored every time they had the ball except for one. Mahomes I and T and the Eagles, Yeah, they killed themselves with mistakes. Otherwise they were moving the

ball well. I thought Jalen Hurts was good in this game. Um fancy god, Jalen hurt Seriously, he is a top five at worst, and because even when they're getting blown out, he's he's finds a way in the end zone a couple of times late, and he did it again this week after he did it on Monday night. But as long as if the defense is gonna get lit up like this week after week, they are just not you know, the Cowboys are gonna leave that entire division in the dust.

I just think they got stuck playing the Cowboys and the Chiefs every week. But it's pointed out that any hope that the Eagles defense was special and any anything beyond just average is hoping for too much. That's insane. The Chiefs went six for six scoring touchdowns. It's that It's one thing to put up forty two. It's another thing to do it in seven possessions. And that's I don't know, it's it's crazy, that's the thing. It's like, you gotta shorten the game against the Chiefs. You've gotta

make them work hard. It's like, okay, once again, you just shortened, uh the amount of time it takes to lose, right, I feel like the rest of the answer no answer. I mean, unless you're the Tampa Bay Bucks in the Super Bowl. Uh, it's gonna be very hard to cook up a scheme to actually stop the Chiefs. So then it becomes something else. That means your offense has to have a big day and you have to get turnovers

and that's how you beat the Chiefs. And uh, the Eagles were unable uh to do anything to match the Chiefs on offense in this game. And the one turnover was all that, um they were able to get in that game. So that's it for the Philly offense. I know some of it was late, but still thirty first downs. That feels good after that. Yeah, the chief I mean, if you're a Chiefs fan, you're frustrated because you can't get off the field. But it must be nice to

have Patrick there to clean up all the messiness. Uh, the Chiefs back to five. Let's move up Jones out of the gun hand off stake Kwa slice is right to the end zone and in with the touchdown of the Giants winning it over time Like what, Barkley, it's not a six shard run. Here's your off with dog. You know, let's give the Giants a little Uh, it's on a New York City. They deserve it for this one. It's on in northern New Jersey's not in New Orleans.

SA Kuon Barkley ran for a six yard t D and overtime after Daniel Jones passed for a career high four oh two, Jim rally for the first win of the season over the Saints. Greg and I know this one hurts you and you canna you heard great. I almost could hear him whimpering. I can't see him over the screen, but when he's suffering, uh, I can feel it. And when it's the Giants of all teams coming up coming back on the Saints in the return to the Superdome,

my goodness, they had it all set up. Fourth quarter lead, What the hell happened? One ten and with the ball and I think that sequence and Giants fans, I'll give you your love shortly because you guys, they deserve it. It was a great comeback that the Saints get the ball. I'm no, I'm just saying because that was the story and that's where I was gonna go first, but you set me up in a particular way, so you've got to go with the host. They're no. No, I'm saying,

I'm just answering. I have now wasted forty seconds that none of you listening well every song and that sequence with the Saints getting the ball. It was second and three, I remember it well, and it's about eight minutes left and you think, oh, they're just gonna run over the Giants. Giants are built pretty well to stop the run. And no matter how much the Saints just kept looking for that big camera play, they weren't quite getting it. They ran the ball thirty nine times in this game, I believe,

and they only threw it twenty three. The New Orleans Saints like in a close game. They stuffed Camara to make it third and two, and then you bring out Taysom Hill and it was a there's a lot of Taysom Hill today, and there was a lot of good. You got a couple of touchdowns, and there was some bad. You got an ugly interception, and you got him getting stuffed on this third down. And I just think the way the Saints are playing football right now, it's a

really slim margin for error. I think that Sean Payton is trying to play to his defense and play to his running game. And there were points in this game where even though at one point Jamis hit twelve straight passes. It felt like they were just hoping Jamis would not lose the game. And that's where like, hey, let us go win the game here, Jamis. Let's not be conservative,

let's not run the ball. And that happened a couple of times late in this game, and they gave the Giants a chance, and to the Giants credit, they took advantage. This is such a transition for the Saints because the way you're talking about how they're using Jamis, who by the ways box score tells the story of a good game. He had a hundred nineteen passer rating, but using Alvin Kamara like this, twenty six carries for a hundred and twenty yards. You never used to see Kamara in that

type of role. Um, right, And then you know, so you have that side of things, and so the Saint's kind of are still figuring themselves out. And and I know we talked about Greg. I think you even made a case for him having the best defense in the league. They took a step back. They're figuring themselves out. The Giants, on the other hand, I think, yes, like you did, Greg, and that was very nice to you again, magnanimous. You gotta give him credit because everyone thought the season was

over last week, and perhaps it is. Perhaps the Giant stink and they're gonna end up. We'll look back at this in a couple of months and they'll be two and nine or whatever. But when you lose that game the way you did to the Falcons, to go on the road in that supercharged atmosphere and find a way to come back. And I think Sae Kwon Barkley is a key to all this for well, two things. Daniel Jones again, when you look at his game by game results and I haven't seen this game yet, but I'm

looking forward to it. He seems like he's making progress as a passer. And then you factor in se Quon, who I thought he looked very close to peak, maybe not peak, but star se Kuan last week. And now you look at the numbers again and he is a huge factor in the running game and as a receiver. That's big news for the job. Hundred twenty six yards from scrimmage. Right after that sequence, I was talking about the Giants get one of their two one play drives in this game. It was it was kind of a

freaky game. They had a one play drive in the first half, first touchdown of the game, fifty two yards to John Ross after a weird Sean Ross. I'd get to that one. And then another one play drive se kuon Barkley for fifty four where he beats Marshawn Lattimore. So that tells you it was a great play called by Jason garrett Um and they fooled Lattimore who did not think Barkley was gonna cut it up field beautiful past. Daniel Jones played so clean four two yards to who scores.

His pick was on a Hail Mary interception at the end of the first half, so that's not even against him, no mistakes, has made great decisions. You're write about Barkley, and I don't think you could have a more positive game in terms of the Giants offense, because not only did Barkley, you know, make those big plays, including the game winner. It's awesome when you get the game winning

touchdown in overtime, uh and that long play. But Gola Day was so big in this game six for one, sixteen and Darius Tony, their first round pick who everyone's been killing Ghettoman for has an amazing burst to his

I mean, he is explosive. So these injuries that they got to shepherd uh and slate and especially when those guys come back, maybe it's good because it made them come up with something for Tony And he was beating Pauls and Adibou who who's you know, been pretty good as a rookie cornerback, but they picked on him all day. His miscommunication set up the game winning touchdown against Golladay. Tony had a number of big plays in this including

like a third and nineteen conversion. I was really impressed by him, so I almost thought, wow, Ross and Tony on the field, like we're cooking with some speed here this Giant's offense. I know they didn't move it all game, but at four five yards that's pretty good. I mean, to be without there. I know Holiday is their number one, but he hadn't been at to this point to play without two top receivers and still get four hundred from Jones,

That's that's a big thing. So total and I do before we move that, I do want to point out Sean Payton. Sorry, yeah, it just seems like he he had a weird game. He he uh decided not he decided not to kick a forties six or seven yard field go in the first half, and he went for it on fourth and three and he hands it off to Camara. They don't get it. So fourth and three now again conservative, like that's a running down. Now didn't work. Then like the next drive, it's almost in his head.

It's fourth and two and there further back, and they decided to kick a fifty eight yarder with Rosas, who hasn't made a kick in weeks, and they missed that very next play h John Ross with the touch that like there was another sequence where a penalty overturns o Jamis throw very very next play, they put Taysom Hill to throw it deep and he throws a wounded duck about buzzing about that one about fifteen yards behind an

open receiver. I forget if I think it was Harris who if he hit him, it was a touchdown, throws it way back and then they blew And this is what killed me. They blew all three of their time outs, like early in the second half, and they needed him at the end of the game. They could have tried to set up for a game winning field goal, and they those timeouts were gone like two in the third quarter and one early in the fourth. He just seemed like he was on the fritz a little bit. Jamis

actually played well once he settled into this game. They should have let him throw a little more. It was not a good Sean pat obviously, Greg on tilt right now. I am sorry. I had a lot to say about that game. Listen, It's okay to be the hockey talk man. This is your new favorite team and that I just wanted. Now you're so off on this and you're feeling this emotionally this one. Um, they're a hard team to figure

out right now. I don't I don't know, I you know, I have to watch this one, but they they are through four games all over the place. We do have to give it up to Darius Slayton before we go to for the all time coin flip performed. Really, I think in NFL history, dare I mean not Darius slat and I'm sorry Rill who was out with an injury, but he fights through it. He's out for the game with injury, fights through it, goes out to midfield and puts up one of the all time CoInc performances. You're

our visiting team. You have the choice. This is tails, this is heads. Hands. Yes, I'm confident we want that ball. Ask them just so good. Almost always when someone says I'm confident, I'm confident, they are not confident. But in this case, I absolutely believed it. Who was that Pepper? See that? See the Odell trade keeps on paying dividends. Wow, all right, let's move on and this will be a forty nine yards Oh it's on a New York City.

If he misses, the Jets win out of the hold of townsend the snap, clean, the placement down, the kick on the way, does it have the distance? Hit floats left. It's no good, It's no good. He pulled it left and the Jets win it in overtime on the missed field goal by Bullock. They've got their first point of the sea. You know, Bob is shoosing is such a great play by play guy. We never hear him in the show because the Jets never win, but they want today. So let me have this Greg because it just never

happens anymore. Randy, Randy, Randy. Down there. Randy Bullock was wide left on a potential tying forty nine yard field goal fifteen seconds left to give the Jets their first victory over the Titans at MetLife Stadium. Nice little home field advantage, Jets fans turned out. I was happy. This is a game, Greg, where it felt like more the same early on where the Titans, who were obviously they're missing a j Brown, They're missing Julio Jones, so you

knew they were gonna be up against it. From a passing standpoint, they were gonna have to lean on Derrick Henry even more than they usually do. And in their early going it seemed like it was gonna be fine because the Jets offense was just never gonna get going. But then it did. The Boy who shall lead us

showed something here. Greg. I can't wait to go back and look at some of these plays again because he those plays when when you heard the Mormon Mahomes stuff, when Tony Romo said the things that he said, it was a couple of the plays in this game where he keeps his eyes down fields, he scrambles, he's fading towards the sideline, and then he just and the ball

comes out of his hand. Remember in Tech Moball and like the Joe Montana pass would just go right into Jerry Rice's hands like a couple of these throws and there was a big I think it was Corey Davis touchdown where he had his eyes on. Not only did he you know it was off platform, he recognized that the safety had cheated up and he pointed to Corey, get your ass downfield and then drills him with the big throw to put him ahead. And it was uneven because he also missed a couple of throws that could

have put the game away. Uh. And it felt like the Titans were gonna go and get the Jets, but they got some luck down the stretch um a ball that maybe the tight end Anthony Ferks should have had that could have set him up at the goal line or even to win the game. In ot the Titans take a delay of game penalty that killed him that set up the Bullock miss and the Jets get to celebrate Um also getting to celebrate for the first time. Let's welcome my old man, Keith Hansas back to the

podcast the first time in the studio. He'll gut about it. He's a big Jets fan. What is he going to say? Games to say? What is he going to say? Great win by the Jets. Tonight, the Jets finally breaking into the wind column. You have to lose in the first three, and losing those first three pretty bad. So I think Wilson showed a lot of guts the way he played today.

He's been taking a lot of heat in the papers, and you know, I'm really proud of the way the whole team, both the offense and defense, came together and got it out a great win. So Jets, Jets, Jets,

Now you go, Keith Hansas, greg Um. This is the progress that we talked with, the progress we hope to see in this game, the Jets being fun to watch, and at the Titans expense, who they're killing themselves because like, we need to go up there and beat the Jets, and here they're they're asking questions about themselves now too right, and they have to give Henry thirty three carries. I guess it'll never come back to haunt them. Um his workload,

but man, it's big. Jeremy McNichols, their leading receiver, and Chester Rogers. You would just if you're Mike Rabel, you've been around for a while. I know there's a lot of new parts, but you would have liked to have a defense that could that could close this game out, not give up, not give up this many fourth quarter points. Let's bring Engraver. Justin Graver hates such a big Titans fan. He's got his own podcast. I'm not here to rub it into you, Justin, but I do. I felt like

you should have the platform. What what are you seeing from your Titans? How much did this one hurt? I mean, it doesn't hurt that bad to me. Yes, I think if you're an NFL fan of any other team, you can say we didn't have at least we didn't have the data Titans had. But like, this division is such a mass that I feel like by the end of the season, we're gonna forget that this game happened. I'd like to forget it right now. Actually, I'd like to

pretend this game didn't happen. They are playing for with a big margin for error division. Yeah, now, I think that they can survive in that division. This loss, but it just shows there another team like the Saints. It's kind of hard, hard to make sense of them right now.

But also with the injuries that they're dealing with at the wide receiver position, they got to get healthy because they were just way too um, they're way too uh you know, predictable on offense, and and the offensive line didn't protect Tannahill either, so it felt like every third down was just a sack. Like every third down was

a sack, right, I mean that was crazy. And there was a stat from from I think PFF it was our next Gen stats that you know, the Jets had four players with six plus press shures, just like the most most players with that many pressures of any team in five years. So it's not just like one guy beating them. Everyone's beating them play after play. They did have ninety three plays, which is outrageous, which makes me

a little bit worried about that TETs defense. It was about to hop on hop on a plane, but thank you to the Jets so that we're not going to cover a game with two winless teams. We didn't need any jokes about that. The Jets are coming in with a chance to get instead it's to win one win teams. That's exciting. But uh, yeah, the Jets defense has been good, uh this season. C J. Mosley has been really good.

Quinnin Williams is really heating up. Now there's some progress here and let's see if they can build off it. Let's now take a quick break and uh hear from our sponsors. All right, let's move on. They're gonna throw her hide it. He's got time now, slides to his left, looks at the thirty five back across the middle of the field and the kids that got the thirty turns to the trony fire. There's the corner of the troity touchdown.

Where's the call? Make a call? Reference touchdown Washington. Great call by Bram Weinstein w T E. M. One of my favorite plays of Week four was Tyler Heineke off platform, swings it over to j. D. Mckissic, who does the rest, uh diving into the end zone. With thirty three seconds to play. After a hail Mary falls unanswered by the Falcons, Washington football team escapes with a thirty four thirty victory,

locking it up for the old Zeus. Sir, but I can't really and that's three in ropers user, by the way, that yeah, this is championship. You know, lock runs are mostly about lucky breaks a big one. So I picked you know, you never pick a mediocre team on the road. That was mistake number one. Uh, you never typically get behind the defense to deliver a dominant performance when they've shown nothing to suggest that's coming, which I did as well, and that didn't happen. So young and sweaty I think

I called him on our TV show last week. Uh, yucking stinky something like that. It was brilliant, um, But that's still the case. They're not getting stops. But uh, luckily they were against the Falcons, who cannot close out a game. They had no business losing this game, and yet they did, right. I mean, not only did they give up those two touchdowns or yeah, there's two touchdowns in the final four minutes, they gave up a kick

return touchdown to start the second half. So it's like a lot like when you get a kick return touchdown, and I always feel like you better win that game, you know, especially in Atlanta, and they were still at the point where they're down eight going into it. And if you just look at those two touchdowns, that's the Heineke experience in a nutshell. The first one was a ridiculous throw, not in a good way. He just threw

the Jamis Winston. I'm falling. I don't care. I'm just gonna throw it up, and maybe that's not a bad idea when Terry mclaurin's on the other side. My guy goes six for one and two touchdowns in his game and he just out muscles the cornerback and and catches the pop up with with three fifty left, and then that play with mckissic. That that's a good play by Heineke, but it also is extremely unconventional. And he's just like running to the opposite side spot six about five thousand

times in the history of its good. You know, he was he had his wherewithal enough to spot mckissic in that spot. He knew where his checkdown was and there was nothing over there. That's a brutal loss Heineke. And this is he grew up in this area, in the Atlanta area. He completed twenty three or thirty three for two ninety three touchdowns. Yeah, some luck was involved, but he you know, he's got he's got some juice to

him and he's Fitzpatrick White. I mean, this is another one those where Fitzpatrick throws right and you know, we'll see where Ryan Fitzpatrick is and where the Washington football team is when Fitzpatrick is potentially ready. But Heineck you think is making a case for being the guy right now. And I just want to say this for the Falcons before we move on. Um, but cordial Cordrel Patterson, who for years and years people were trying to figure out this guy. How do we make him work on our offense?

How do we make he's such a dynamo on special teams? How do we unlock Patterson? And I guess they have. I guess the Falcons and Arthur Smith have because he became the first Atlanta player since to score three touchdowns in a game, none of them on special teams. Greggy, and he led the team in rushing again six for thirty four, five, eight, two and three. Is he is like a fantasy jugger not And yet you can't help but think like, wouldn't it be nice if Calvin Ridley

and Kyle Pitts were bigger jugging nuts. They know they had an okay game this today, but it's like, yeah, I don't think Pitts as yet to find the end zone. And Ridley, who I think a lot of his thought was just gonna light it up week after week. UM with Arthur Smith there it just hasn't happened yet. So the Falcons they head to London to face the Jets, coming off really a stomach punch loss. One of those games that was too bad because neither of these teams

feels like a two and two team. But it doesn't matter. Washington's got now a little time to figure some things out. They are a two and two team, all right. Let's head to Orchard Park? Was it? Orchard Park? Pumps twice? Fires it now cut by Carson Knox at the five and he goes into the indo touchdown Buffalo Dawson Knox with a touchdown. That was just some of the fun

the Bills had in this game. John Murphy with the called w g R Tremade Edmonds had one of Buffalo's four interceptions, and the Bills again just beat up on an overmatched offense, this time the Texans forty zip the final greg. The Bills held Houston to hundred and nine yards of offense eight in the first half, six first

downs total. It's their second shutout in three weeks. The Texans had negative twenty three passing yards in the first half that this may not surprise you, but that was the lowest of any team in any half in uh at least twenty years. Pretty pretty deep into the game, Mills had more interceptions uh than completions. And yeah, you could remember we were talking it was like a seventeen and a half point line in this game, and it was like he couldn't make one big enough for Davis

Mills against this Bills defense. We'll find out more about this defense. Uh next week they played Kansas City. But I've I've been really impressed by them. They lose Matt Milano that that hurts, but they have to be feeling great with these two blowout wins in a row heading into that big Chiefs game. Yeah, they're just building momentum. They're building their their steam. Now that's building here after that tough Week one loss. Now they look like the

Bills and uh yeah that's that that is. We have the Chiefs coming up now week five. That is beautiful. That's a great game. I can't wait for that one. Um. And I don't know about Houston. I mean the Texans, they they were shaping up early on is a little bit of like a underdog story. Everybody thought they would be the worst team in football and they're fighting week

after week. Well, I mean, the longer Davis Mills is the quarterback, you might just see more of this, right ty Tyrod is gonna miss at least one more week because I believe he's on injured reserved. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but he was expected to miss one more. They they're not going to be competitive as long as Mills is out there. But it's big. Sanders has surprised me. Emmanuel Sanders week after week has surprised me by being a pretty clear upgrade from John Brown. And they're just

leaving him on the field. And that is a tough group to stop. When it's knocked Sanders, Digs, Uh and Beasley on the field, that is just maybe the best three by one set right now in the entire NFL. That hurts a little bit. Smoky Brown was always you know, yeah, we were fans of here on the of him on this podcast. And uh, but it looks like Sanders is really found a home there. Let's uh stick with the a f C East Uh and oh more trouble for

the Dolphins. Wins takes a shotgun step steps up in the pocket, he throws at the left flat and it is I catch a contested grab Cox. He just wanted to more of the its own touchdown high y why and Matt Taylor w F and I with the call. The calls are alive kind of. Carson wentz through two touchdown passes the Molly Cox, Jonathan Taylor went over the century mark with a score on the ground, and the Colts got their first w of the season, beating the

sputtering Dolphins. Greg uh, this was a game and the obviously needed badly and they finally find their way to the wind call. Well, sometimes the schedule maker delivers you the right opponent at the right moment, and I didn't. I thought the Dolphins were gonna win this game, but I realized during this game this was the right opponent

at the right time. The Colts did not pass midfield in this game Dan until under five minutes left in the second quarter, which you would normally think, oh, we're in trouble, but no, it was three nothing at that point that the Dolphins did not move the ball the whole time. They only got that first touchdown drive Indianapolis

because the Dolphins lined up offsides on a punt. Otherwise, like I don't I think they would have gone into halftime potentially without having cross midfield, but after that point it was one way traffic. It was the Colts team you kind of expected to see if you're an optimist going into the season. Jonathan Taylor really ran the ball well. They pushed them around for about three straight drives. Carson Wentz made good decisions. They actually hit some big plays

down the field, some to their tight ends. One to Jack Doyle was big that the mo Alei Cox made a couple of plays. Pascal had one forty one yard or it was enough, It was clean, and the Dolphins offense was just an absolute train wreck for most of this game. You'll look at the stat and see they got two hundred yards and thirteen first downs. You'll be like, oh, that's ugly, but that's only with two garbage time touchdowns.

They barely moved the ball for about three quarters. I think they had six first downs and we're averaging about two yards per play against this Colts defense, which until this game had really been struggling up until the fourth quarter. In the game was over by then. I mean, you know, Jake Briskett is who he is, but he's also very capable backup quarterback, and we don't know what TOA is and we don't know when two is going to be back. Um, so this is what it is for the time being.

But you know, you look at there, I know there's not a lot they're running back or it's hard to say what they have there. But Tavante Parker, Mike Jasecki, you have Jalen Waddle, there, Will Fuller, who I think hurt himself again in this game. There should be more explosiveness on offense, but we just haven't seen it. Well, they're so afraid Two do these deep dropbacks because their

offensive line has been so bad. And the offensive line today was not not necessarily the problem, but they kind of max protected from what I could see, did everything they could to sell out and protect Jacobe and they couldn't scheme guys open. He held the ball for a while. It was just it was tough watch this. This would be a game. I know, we're going to London, it's gonna be tough to get in all the game pass games. But they have those like eight minute version highlights or something.

I mean, if you're going to choose one game for that, this this was not a fun watch. So it's that type of game. Okay, And how did Carson Wentz moved by the way, how was he looking better than last week? But not great? They actually they had a called run early in the game because they weren't respecting it, and he picked up about eleven yards and it too. It took a while. You're just like slide and then he

he's the worst slider ever. He dives head first and because the rule is now that's giving yourself up, you can't fumble. But this is at least the second, maybe the third time where he just dives on the ground like a big goloof And then and then he found both the ball, but it doesn't count as a fumball because you're you guys just don't know. And I think a lot of times it's it ties into their youth. If you played baseball growing up, you know how to slide.

If you didn't play baseball, a lot of I wouldn't say a lot, but there's certain guys. I think r G three comes to mind. Did an RG three? Didn't they bring um? Then Yankees manager Joe Girardi in for like a session. I remember writing like in a round the League post about that um. That's the situation. But Yeah, the Cults obviously are still in trouble, but just like the Titans, it's the AFC South, so being one of

three isn't a death sentence. At Baltimore next week is gonna be tough, But then you get Houston at home, so you know, who knows. If you find a way to beat the Ravens, who have been a little inconsistent of times this year, you could be defense showed up. We'll see. It was one game, but this is what Steve Weiss was saying coming into this week, maybe that the defenses are gonna start turning the corner a little bit.

Like if I'm a Packers fan or I'm a Cults fan, you saw your defense squeeze bad offenses and you're thinking, okay, maybe they're gonna be okay at least the average. All right, let's take a quick break and then welcome in Kevin Patrick. Clock at six five. We're gonna turn in hand to Collins, who finds some running room and break three ten five. He's in flips such a one touchdown Seahawks Alex Collins

is gonna do his Irich dance and well he should. Oh, Patrick's Bongo's time, baby, let's go Patris like, I don't cass, look at that Alex Collins. He scores, he does as Irish Jack, and the Seattle Seahawks coast to victory over the Niners. Now that score doesn't tell you coast, but it was they were in control of this game. Patrick, um can I actually, at first, um, I need to go on the record apologizing for to Erica for last week, for making her go back and bleep out my swearing tirade.

I'm not not apologizing for saying those words. Just work that she had extra put in. Okay, we call that. We we call it Kevin Patrick as salt of the Earth tax and we know it's there will be some clean up. But he wasn't. No, Pat Patrick had a classic performance at the Super Bowl like six years ago that we still talk about. Oh right, that's right, well Patrick, we like him though he's shooting from he's shooting from

the hip. As they say, I don't even remember what game you're covering at this point, Yeah, barn Burner in San Francisco. Um, I mean, it was really a tale of the forty Niners not taking advantage of early opportunities to buried Seattle, who could not get off the ground um to start the game five three ounce to start, negative twelve yards total offense in the first five possessions, and the forty Niners zoom right down behind Jimmy g

score a touchdown. You thinking this could get ugly for Seattle, and then it's completely flipped. Uh, Seattle went traight points. It's at one point in the second half or the third quarter, and it just felt like it was over. Tray Lance Trade Lance took over in the second half and he couldn't do anything, but he did anything go other than one huge play. And this is this is

just the beginning for tray Lance. Sound this might be the official handoff because even though he didn't really heat up in this game and probably has a lot of work to do in terms of learning the offense and getting comfortable at this level. Jimmy Garoppolo suffered a calf injury and he was pretty despondent after the game. He

said he anticipates being out a couple of weeks. You got the Cardinals coming up here for the Niners, and it just seems like now patra if Lance can put together any type of you momentum over than the next couple of weeks, this will be the torch being passed. How confident are you that he'll be able to build off this game because there were some moments scattered in

this game of positive nature for him. Yeah, when he saw the throw and he unleash it, he's got a cannon and he had one seventy nine yard touched on a busted play. Um, it's just he felt a little hesitant to me, like to pull the trigger, Like coming in at halftime, he just doesn't seem ready, like he was thrust into a situation that he wasn't ready for. The game plan didn't really fit his skill set. It kind of was like, oh, these are the four QB run plays that we have in the playbook for today,

so we're gonna run him. But it didn't. It wasn't a Shanahan with the mobile RG three quarterback that we saw. I mean, Shannon said after the game, he looked like a quarterback in his first you know, opportunity. But I'm having RG three flashbacks his first opportunity and go like destroying the Cowboys. And but that was with a way

to prepare. And Shanahan did point out that they look they this was the game plan for Jimmy g it was it was Trey Lance behind center the whole time, and they were not really running the type of offense you would expect for Lance. It's a strange game because I'm just you know, looking at the possessions in everything Seattle at seven three and ounce, they only had two d and thirty four yards in this game. Like explained that one for me. They got out game by like

two hundred yards. Yeah, when you have seven five three ounce to start the game, of course your your They only really had two good possessions, um, because they're One of their touchdowns came after San Francisco imploding on special teams and fumbling a kickoff on Wilson made a Houdini type play to get out of a almost sure sack and threw a touchdown and that kind of that put them up two scores, and then they took the foot off the gas and the next drive after that they

scored again, but it was thanks to a huge penalty. So like they really only had two good drives the whole game. The rest of it was like four yards and a cloud of dust. Russ couldn't really get it and going. He had a lot of passes behind receivers. Guys weren't making plays. The offensive line struggle to walk. For the most part, Alex Collins was probably the most impressive UH Seahawks offensive player in the game. Wow, And

honestly that that's what I saw. He was running through guys and that touchdown that you called him the beginning, I don't think he was touched and he just like we bobbed and weaved his way to the end zone. He's a fun player to root for given what his history.

But overall, I would say the whole game was kind of like this kind of trippy experience because neither team looked like they were reading up for a playoff, to be honest with you, And I know that's you know, game script and the number of possessions and all that, and you said Wilson played a role in that as

well in terms of their ineffectiveness. But I just wonder, in like ten years or fifteen years and Russell Wilson has retired, we'll Seahawks fans look back and be like, I can't believe there's so many games when Russell Wilson through twenty three passes in the entire game, like don't. You don't you want to have an offense where you just I don't. I don't want to get back into the let's Russ Cook debate, but they're there. Their need

to establish the run no matter what. It's just frustrating when you hear about an offense that really has not been in year the last couple of weeks. Yeah, I don't think like you you can make these big sweeping generalizations after the first month. But one of my biggest takeaways just from the first month is that the Seahawks in the forty niners really do look like they've got some ground to make up. Obviously they do in the standings.

Two games now they're behind Arizona and one to the Rams, But just in terms of the firepower and everything that we thought coming into the season, Arizona and in Los Angeles just look like better teams. In Seattle and San Francisco were teams that had Super Bowl aspirations coming into the season. They're gonna have to be a lot different Patrick. I think in the next couple of months. I've been

very unimpressed with Shanahan's offense so far. We'll see, Yes, I think we're all excited to see what can happen with a new quarterback. But it's not necessarily going to be a magic elixer and they're gonna be humming, but maybe they will. That's the fun thing we get to watch and find out. All right, let's close it out, Patra with some Lions football. Oh yeah, I'd like this. How it's Lions football, not Bears football. Nap play fake, the handy cutting inside, the scotch tackle as he rumbles

and he's in till the ends. One of the touchdown, that's all David Montgomery. That is second effort nine yards far side of the end zone, touchdown Bears Jeff Johnny at w BBM. David Montgomery ran for one oh six and two scores before leaving with a knee injury, and the Bears followed their nightmare Week three with scores on their first two possessions win over the Lions. Patcher. You were and that's it was the work of Ricky in

the edit to clean up your language. But I know because I followed these things on social media that the listeners they liked the passion that you brought to that Brown the Bears conversation last week, and how hideous they were um as an operation against the Rounds. Did you see gains for this offense? Did you see gains for Justin Fields and Matt Naggie and the whole experience as a whole. Well, playing the worst defense in the NFL shut certainly helps right run over a dead horse. It's easy.

There shouldn't be one starter on the Lions that plays for another team. So I think that this was a perfect situation. And when we looked at the schedule, when when Naggi started kept saying, I want Dalton the start, I want Dalton the start. Once start, you looked at the schedule, like, okay, Week four should be Fields, They'll get through the Browns. Dolt will probably get destroyed and then who has an excuse to go to Fields? Right? So this it was would have been the perfect opening

script for Justin Fields. My issue with Naggie was last week he didn't adjust when that plan went awry, He didn't change anything. This week we saw more motions. Uh, Fields got out of the pocket. He had all day for some throws to make, and it was beautiful. He made some gorgeous throws, deep throws. Finally, this offense um stretched the field. He had nine nine of ten passes, included nine of ten passes over ten yards. Dalton had

two for his first game and a half. Like so, this was just a completely different offense we saw with fields actually running vertical threat and Daniel uh Darnell Mooney, I'm sorry. Was it awesome to see that aspect of the game come into because that's where he thrives going downfield, and I think we're gonna see more. We should see more from this, especially against the worst pass rush defenses

when he's got time to throw. Well, that's a rough statement saying that no one on their defense should start for any other teams. And then I went through the list and Romeo Acquire of course would, but he was lost to it. Sounds like in a season ending achilles injury in this game. And then I went through the other ten and you could make the argument, Patra, you really could, which is which is absolutely crazy. I found

it funny that you know it was. It was a better day, a more sensible day for the Bears offense. And then after the game there's still so much negativity. Montgomery gets hurt for Bears, and then Naggi has to answer these questions about Bill laser now calling the plays, and you could tell he was getting upset about it. Who's getting the credit and he was like, well, it still goes through me. And then he also said, well, and I'm not gonna answer any questions about who's calling

the plays anywhere. That's that's not why you want on. That is tough. That's his own fault for playing this whole game where I'm not gonna tell you scheme, scheme, scheme. It's his own fault. He's buried himself multiple times. He had a chance all week to say, starting fields, we have confidence in this kit, and he didn't take it. And he didn't take it. He's just made every wrong decision there is. This game doesn't change that they looked good against a bad team that kept shooting themselves in

the foot the whole day. If we want to flip to the Lions and how you can get inside the ten yard line in your first three drives and scores zero points because you're that type of team. Um, Jared Goff has two fumbles and then he throws at thirty five miles in the air over a guy's head on fourth down. And that's the kind of game it was. I just think what my main takeaway is justin fields showed what kind of player he came and be with his arm, with his looseness. He only got hit three times,

sacked once. So this was the type of game that you you wanted to see, not the last week game your statuesque in the pocket. Uh. You know. I in a lot of ways, I see Matt Naggy is this season's version Adam Gaze, And it reminds me of late last season when Gaze was talking about whether he had the play calling for the Jets over Loggins and then it was said that no, I I didn't. I'm not calling the plays, and like, well, we watched you on the sideline and the cameras on you and you were

calling the plays and Loggins wasn't doing anything. He's like, uh, hamona, hammana hamana. It's that that's where the Bears are as as a team right now, just waiting to move on to the next coach. It feels like sometimes yeah, and it's and it's bad because I just don't think that's the right thing for this quarterback. I don't know, I'm giving giving two Bears fans. I know it's a lot of negative two, two and two. It's true you have

a good quarterback. You finally have a freaking good quarterback if the coach can just figure out how to use them properly the rest of the way. Again, it's good defense, alright, kay, Pat, thank you buddy. No bleeps needed, all fire, no expletives. You're being nice to Ricky. She was being nice to you, trying to lock up your lions, and just like I love all the love in the air, rick I did it for you. I really next time asking me, what, Ricky,

what are you doing? Jared goff outside, Yeah, No, it's a it's a mental game because Greg doesn't want me to play and I'm still gonna beat them. You wait, I'm what do they call it when you you know and ted lasso or he's like, you never asked me if I played Dark. You never asked me if I play locks? So you just wait, Oh wow, are you talking trash with me? And three, if you're I think you're five and fifteen last year or something like a

coin flip. I think it's getting to the point where we've seen enough Erica to know that you're really bad at this. I try to pick with the smallest. Um, don't know that there's no victories in that. Just try to get it right, stay within as long as you stay within seven points of a favorite. Start being a little more conservative because this isn't working. Taking the Lions on the road. It's just not no way the popular pick this week. But it didn't didn't. Well, let's show

you what the popular opinion lead you sometimes. All right, thank you Patra, thank you Ricky Um for everything today. All right there it is the week that was, Greg, what a week This week that is upon us? Now is our trip to London, England. Around the NFL Podcast returns to the UK for the third time. It will be me, it will be you, It'll be Ricky Hollywood on for sationally Mark Sessler. The decision was made and everyone was on the same pay and including Mark to

kind of stay home and continue to recuperate. So he's ready to rejoin us on the other side. So that's a bummer, but also the right move, right Greg, it is the right move. No, I'm just thinking about thinking about Mark, and I'm thinking about like he's gonna get in fighting shape, the best shape of his life, and we're going to close his season strong. With him, and we'll miss him of course over in the UK. But we'll have fun. We'll have fun and yes, we hit.

We're gonna be doing all the fun stuff. We're gonna be at the Jets Falcons game, We're gonna be at Sky Sports. We're gonna have not one but two live shows. One's already sold out and there's one more late show that's still for sale. If if you want to get tickets before those disappear, the Top Secret Comedy Club dot c O dot UK you'll find us the nine thirties show. Go get tickets and meet us, uh heroes, fans, interacting, interfacing, Greg, that's what we look to do. Interface, some some Q

and A. I'm I'm great with the interfacing. Oh yeah, absolutely, Um all right, Ricky, okay everything, okay, Yeah, I'm good with the Patriots and everything. You're okay? Yeah, thanks? Thanks checking in. What about that other guy, what's the guy at the top of the show, the haughty what was his name? Chuck's Nick Chuck, not Nick Chuck, the guy from the NBC, the fan, the fake Schwartzy. I wonder how he's doing right now. And Schwartzy from Ashlyn said,

I'll shore for him when he comes out. But after that, I want some sacks. I want to see our freaking linebackers just pumble him and punish him. Yeah, I gotta I want to go home. Can we go? Yeah, let's go, All right, let's go. Dan Hands is signing off for the old Boss, Ricky Holly the Pipe, Patrick coming at yet We're onto England. Pete the Oh