2019 Week 5 Recap

Another Sunday in the books. My only goal with the show is too when they come out of the head shots that you look at if you're watching the YouTube version, head shots, to absolutely duplicate the smarmie look on my face in the photo that I for some reason picked this mighty shot. It's a it's a tough, smarmy a hole, that's what I look like. It's like, the what we don't want people to think of our show is basically with the opening credits of our YouTube show, say, look

at these guys, these mediocre whites. Don't buy into anything they're about to say. In fact, tune out and go find something better. It pitches that, well, how's everybody doing? I was doing great until you just hold my career down the river and these guys didn't work. Yeah, you know those head shots. You know, you can only make a headshot as good as what you got to work with. You know. I blame myself in studio action poses. I've been pushing this internally and it will happen one day.

Um all right, it is the Sunday of week five. So much to get to. Um and Greg you said it, and I think we all feel the same. You said it on Twitter. Kind of miss the Lions today. Oh yeah, I think everyone around the country has been thinking that. It's like, you know what that ten games slate needed at ten am Pacific, A little Lions. A bit of a weird week because you missed the Lions. Some strange outcomes in games. You have Tony Romo and Nance doing

the the windless Broncos against the Charger. Maybe did Romo have like a golf invitational outside or something like the Glendale Invitational and he's like, this is where we're going. He's pulling power plays and you're the honest hill for you to stand to top and to try to defend that he does not care about his job. Not enough. I mean, if you want to be a golfer, be a golfer. That's my stand on this. Get you like an ESPN morning show with another time. I'm not the

only one that should have takes so far. What does it end zero for? The rest of the group was the other fire take the mediocre white head shots. What if he just wanted to go bowling today instead of announcing football? Would that be okay? That would be fine because it would be just a leisure activity. Listen, that will save that for another conversation. Maybe, uh, Tuesday show. In fact, when we next when you next hear from us on Tuesday, we're gonna be in London. We're gonna

be there all week ahead of Bucks. Panthers will also be at that game at Tottenham Stadium, so we're really excited about that. So since we're heading to London, why don't we start the week five recap with the first game of the season played in London was at Wembley Stadium, and yes, an upset right out of the gate. Let's get to it. This will be a second down and ten for the Bears from the Raiders forty six yard line, and here's chased back into the gun. He's hit on

the release up in the air. There's something picks up b con Con He's got it. Hey, you go down inbound. Keep the clock running. The Bears last use the time out. The second interception of the game. Brent Musburger with the call k CBS. Chase Daniel, listen to this music. By the way, I got another hot take. Shadowy league figures in this building, no backbone at all, decide to strip us of our glorious primetime music with this generic slop. You got me with that hot take. I mean, listen

to this turn it up, Nobile? Are you kidding me? What a travesty? Anyway? Chase Daniel? What did you do? The Bears backup QB airmail to pass with Chicago nearing field goal range, the interception of Dagger for the Raiders stunning on Sunday night at Wembley. How about that? A great game in England? Cheers anyway, Daniel blew Itt, But not before the Bears d blew it first on Oakland's

final drive. Mark Sessler. Yeah, I mean, if you told me coming out of this matchup and what I would have thought of it going in and what I watched from the Bears, not only last week, but going back to last season, that one of these defenses would have come out of this game with no sacks and no picks, and it would have been the Bears and not the Raiders. Where it was the Raiders defense that hassel Chase Daniel.

I get that he's a backup, but he's also you can't say that, and also pitched this line, Oh, he knows Matt Nagy's offense. He's intimately familiar with this playbook, and he's a veteran and he does good things here and there when you get the game he had, which was two killer picks, and I thought the issue here was was Oakland Josh Jacobs on the ground and Derek

Bard doing Josh Jacobs is the real thing. Four point seven yards per carry, a hundred and twenty three on the ground, did through the air, and you got to remember that Derek Carr is working with guys like Foster Moreau and Trevor Davis, and they to me looked like

the offense that had a little bit more going. They weren't perfect, but I'm a little worried about the Bears offense, as I have been all season long, because to me, in a game like this, they felt formless and they need their defense to pile up turnovers and probably points to get out of this season with anything more than a wild card entry at best. Seventeen nothing lead for the Raiders at the half, Chicago scores twenty one straight to take the lead. Uh. And what follows is and

Greg it was the biggest shock of the game. Once they get in the lead, I think everyone kind of thinks, oh, it's over. Thirteen plays nineties seven yards uh in two minutes of clock time. That's an unbelievable letdown by Chicago. It's it's an unbelievable drive. Thirteen played drive that you go ninety seven yards on the Bears defense to win the game in London, one drive after they actually had the ball inside the Bears five yard line and fumbled

it early in the fourth quarter there down three. At that point, you figure there's no way they're winning that game at that point, but their defense got the ball back. They were the better team throughout the day. You have the Bears defense made a couple of plays. You mentioned the Bears offense is gonna need that. I mean, that's the only reason the Bears were even in this game is that two of their drive touchdown drives were sixteen yards are less because they had such good field position,

because their defense set them up. The Raiders game three under nine yards on this game, the Bears had two thirty six like, I gotta give John Gruden some credit. I'm just shocked because when you watch when I watched this team against the Colts, and when I thought, I thought even stronger that they're not going to be competitive in this Let's just think they're so lucky. Let's hear from John Gruden, who, as you know, by the way, this was supposed to be the game where the Bears

rubbing and Gruden's face the Khalil Mac. Where's Kalil Mack in this game when they when they need a big play? Gruden feeling good talking to the players after the game. I have a news going here. I have a disco. Let's all start dancing. I say, this, man, a fifty six years old. That's the most fun I've ever had to night. I'm so proud of you. Yeah, no idea. I mean, we've been through a roller coaster already. But once you prove today is one thing you can feed

anybody anywhere. Why I'm I think one of the biggest surprises in the NFL is the Raiders offensive line. I spent the offseason thinking they were gonna be terrible, and they have been one of the best and maybe the best unit on this team, and just from the comments I was seeing on Twitter, it sounds like they imposed their will on the Bears and even bullied them a little bit. They they did, they played a great game and and you know the defense made a player too

Tariko and doesn't have a massive punt return. I don't think the Raiders are even in this game, and that reminds me a little bit of the formula last year where they needed something big to happen on special teams combined with defensive chaos, and when you don't get it, you get this game. But I don't come out of this just looking at Chicago's mistakes. The Raiders deserve some credit for going into I think anyone winning a London game that's extra level because it's you don't know how

to manage that week. It's not you're not doing the same thing. And we know the Raiders typically are a house on fire and all the wrong ways when they travel east, but they traveled farther east this time and took care of Chicago. I I thought this would have been like thirty one to seven Bears and and back

to John Gruden. I mean, this is this is another popular offseason punching bag through five games, and now they head into their by three and two with signature wins in here, a great division win to open the season, uh, the win last week in Indy, which was an excellent win, and now of course beating a Bears team that a lot of people see see as an NFC favorite. No one expected this, No, we were talking two weeks ago, is Derek are gonna, you know, be back with this team.

The thing is Car helps that offensive line look better in pass protection because he gets rid of the ball so quickly. And they're a good run blocking team, and Trent Brown has been worth the money. They have the best center one of them and Rodney Hudson, who they may act made sure to pay before this year. And then the league is a little more fun with the frisky Raiders team. And frankly, the Bears hadn't played that well enough in the first five weeks to be a

four and one team. They they seem like a three and two team that feels well. I would say I might have been a little I might be a little hard on Car to say keep saying I'm not sure if he's on this team next year, but he's not the reason they won this game. Derek Carr was fine. He was super well protected from very steady LEA boring one question on the film, it looked like we saw a pretty gruesome Achem Hicks elbow injury, one of the best players in the Bears team. Did you get the

sense this could be a season ender? I mean, it looks I agree with you. I need to see what the test show. But it was doctor, you know I it's not good when it's dangling on the side. I dialed up. I dialed up Dr Chow in between the space from Packers Cowboys to the start of the show, and he's it's not picking up my calls. He was very busy talking to Silva's got Chow on the speed dial. They talked toys a day. According to a little inside

joke there. All right, let us move on from this shotgun snap Rogers second down holding left for the Tucks down TA touchdown run in the interior of the Green Bay line opened up a hole at Aaron Jones went farling through Billy Turner and Ryan Blaga to two key blocks. Aaron Joe ran Rick between them, love It, Wayne Larvy and Larry mccaren of the Packers Radio Network it's talking about going to a disco. Here we go, It's gotta slaps, here we go. Aaron Rodgers is unbeatable at a T

and T stadium, but it helps have friends. Aaron Jones scored four touchdowns and Mike Petton's defense uh force Dak Prescott into three interceptions. In the end, it was a thirty four to twenty four win for the Packers. Rogers is now five and oh since Gerald World opened in two thousand nine, and the Packers are four and one and all alone in first place in the NFC North. I know the Packers and we all had an eye on this one because there was only two late games.

The Packers surprised this whole room because we all felt pretty good about um Dallas's chance in this game. But from the jump, Green Bay was in control. I'm impressed that Aaron Rodgers is just playing like he did three years ago, and I think maybe that should have been a bigger takeaway from the Eagles game that just, hey,

Aaron Rodgers is bawling again. I know the final numbers don't look crazy impressive, but some of the passes that he made in the first half were those classic Aaron Rodgers throws where he's making Robert Tanyan look good, and he's doing it without Davante Adams. I'm not saying Tanya didn't make I like Tanya right now, but when Rogers is making those beautiful places, he makes you believe anything is possible. He said after the game, it was his best game of the year, and he doesn't care about

stats anymore. All he wants to do is win. He doesn't care how anybody thinks. He knew this was his best game. Well, I know, and there was there was jawing, you know, forget more like discussion between Aaron Rodgers and Matt the flower Head coach during the game, and we we brought it up a few times so they would keep cutting away to that, and it looked like there

was a little bit of tension here and there. I think, if we're allowed all these other teams to figure out who they are, this is Aaron Rodgers in a new offense for the first time in a zillion years, And if you take away a red zone collapse against the Eagles, the narrative around this team over the last two weeks and what they produced is a little bit different. What bothered me a little bit. They've got up real big early and then they were struggling to kind of hang

on to this lead, but they're on the road. It was a little clunky the close out, but ultimately it didn't really hurt them, and that's why they had it just made the game four and a half hour had it had several possessions that were fruitless, that featured some big losses, and then they would cut straight back to La Floura and Rodgers looking mildly annoyed about. It's really the body language that is fascinating about the two of them.

It's always something to keep an eye. It just feels like La Fleur is, you know, trying to impress him or trying to convince him of a point that Rogers is not agreeing with. And so it's just kind of fun a little brother trying to convince big brother he's cool, except one of them is the head coach. I don't think we can expect much more out of them in the second half when Davontae Adams isn't playing, Jamal Williams

isn't there, and Aaron Jones had another great game. It makes you in between that that Eagles game where they wouldn't give him the ball on the goal line. It makes you even question that more. He has four tds today and he looked like a goal line monster before this. What is your an eight two yards from scrimmage? I mean he stepped up in a game that they needed a playmaker and he made plays on his own. He made Layton Vanderesh look bad a couple of times, and

you do not see that to him. He averaged five points six yards for carrying this game, and he had a ten yard lost on a run late in the fourth quarter. Um Dak Prescott had a very strange game because he threw three interceptions. Some of them were really bad interceptions, I mean passes that left you scratch in your head. You saw Jared Jones up in the box after I believe the third pick, showing a lot of

anger and fresh stration. But he also threw for four d sixty three yards and had some gorgeous dime shots in the game. So it was an odd Press Scott performance. But Jason Garrett slammed that flag down in front of the raft and got a fifteen yard penalty. And after the game, Jerry Jones was asked about the referee and in Jason Garrett's abusive language, his quote was, oh I

hope the little darlin didn't hear something he hadn't heard before. Well, I think he did, and they made it clear it was whatever came out of Garrett's not Darius Smith in this clearly playing through. I think it was a knee injury down on the field two or three times in this game for extended periods. What a what a performance. I think the Petton defensive performance gets a little bit

lost because of the fireworks at the end. But Petton has been absolutely great for this and he finally has a quarterback on offense, which he never had with the Jets or Browns, a bunch of absolute non starters at the position forever and za Darius Smith, and he's got certain guys on defense that are absolutely tearing it up. They had a few injuries today though they had. The Cowboys also lost Lyle Collins and so they didn't have

Tyrone Smith starting. So there they have two tackles, including Cam Fleming, who really shouldn't be starters in the NFL. That's in something to keep an eye on, especially Collins, who's maybe been the best right tackle in the league. Dallas out gained Green Bay five sixty three to three thirty five. So don't always um judge a game just by the stats, but it doesn't. But it was even the half, and it was seven days. The Cowboys moved the ball, that wasn't the problem. They just kept on

shooting themselves in the foot. Amari Cooper eleven for two and a touchdown. One of those was kind of a garbage time touchdown, but that wasn't the It was a strange game. And I'm trying to figure out now, West, because I know you were big on Cowboys corner a couple of weeks ago, after that narrow lost last Sunday night against New Orleans and then this pretty much stinker performance at home against an underman Packers team. Where do you stand on them right now? The Cowboys, I'm confused.

I'll need to watch this game. I was marine the Broncos Chargers games, so I don't know exactly what happened, but I did notice that a lot of people were jumping on Kellen Moore in the first half and using the word genius in quotation. Mark already. This was this was anything that can go wrong went wrong type of game that I know we have the cornered animal game. Is that that too long of a name? It was like Amari Cooper dropped. Oh, there's an easy term for this,

the Murphy's Law game. Right, it's a Murphy's Law game. Early in the first half day, it's not like they looked like the inferior team. There were just a few plays like a Marie Cooper had a ball thrown slightly behind him that he dropped and that turns into an intercepted pops right, but up and turn into an interception.

And there was a lot of plays like that where it's not like the Cowboys looked like a vastly inferior I think they're learning to be a team that doesn't channel almost directly through Ezekiel Elliott four straight quarters, which has been the case for the past three years. That's not the team they are right now in offense. All right,

that's a nice NFC rivalry. Like my official stance on the Cowboys, they're too talented to miss the playoffs, all right, and check in Tuesday from London, where west will give you more insight on his beloved America's team. More like Westlings, it's got a lot of teams beloved is a stretch. Oh no, he's bailing. No, I'm not bailing. I enjoy watching them. I don't really, none of the teams are beloved.

Check out a great a f C rivalry this in the North and here comes Justin Tucker for what will be a forty six yard field goal attempt to win the game in overtime. Snap is good, chick on the way, it is long enough, and it is good Justin Tucker with a barn. And as if the rest of the day wasn't close enough, that kick was hooking to the left, looked like it would say a wide left, and at the last minute they did right back in between the op rights and the Ravens win it today in Pittsburgh

twenty six to three. Jerry Sandusky with the call for w B A L West. You know, the more I think about that, I bet Tucker did that on purpose. He has that ability. Who are we to question the means of Justin Tucky said, let me get seventy thousand fans to get their hopes up in hines Field and

then have that thing hook in at the last second. Anyway, the goat Justin Tucker top to forty six yard or inside the left, upright and overtime, giving the Ravens win over the Steelers at Hines Field, A killer loss for Pittsburgh who followed one and four and Baltimore UM improves the three and two UM West, What did you learn from these two teams on Sunday? The Steelers still don't trust their offense, and that's been the case since Big Ben went down UM, and it's really bitten them a

little bit. I think two situations in this game really point out the first one, UM more wild catching anigans. I feel like they've fallen too hard in love with their own creativity. The coaching staff Jalen Samuel's through an interception deep in Pittsburgh's own territory. The Ravens went and converted that for an easy touchdown. Lamar Jackson threw a pair of interceptions in his own territory and Mason Rudolph was only able to get field goals out of those.

And then the other thing was in overtime. I think it was like the sixteenth time since the nineteen sixties and a coach won the coin toss and elected to put his defense on the field, and that was Mike Tomlin defense did great stuffed mark Ingram then sacked Lamar Jackson, then held on third down, forced to punt. Second play of the Steelers drive. Marlon Humphrey great play to punch the ball out of Juju Smith Schuster's hands. And you know the pro late spheroid bounce is funny. You can't

control it. And uh, Devlin Hodges who came onto quarterback was too busy boxing out the defender and didn't fall on the ball. Yeah. I would have quite called a Cam Newton in Super Bowl fifty moment for young Devlon, but uh, it showed maybe a lack of awareness in the moment that go get that football. The ball was bouncing in one direction and then it changed directions that both teams right that he seem more occupied by the opponent near him than going after the ball. But you

know what, it's moving very fast the game. Let's not get out Devilon Hodges in the game. Because Mason Rudolph lest suffer is one of the scarier head injuries you'll see. Uh, you want to dig in on that a little bit. Mason Rudolph got hit by Earl Thomas on what I thought was his best play of the of the game, Mason Rudolf's best play to avoid pressure and pick up a third down to James Washington, and then Washington was injured UH and was lost for the game. So both

those guys got injured. UH. Devil and Hodges came in um and looked pretty poised. There was one play where his arm strength limitation showed up. He was throwing off one ft on the run, fairly deep down the field and just couldn't put any mustard on it. Earl Thomas picked it off and it was called back on a defensive holding, but it was a little worrisome the lack of arm strength on the throw. UM. I thought he played about as well as you could expect an undrafted

rookie to play. He's an undrafted rookie from Sandford. Who is gonna be uh called the next Sunday Night on NBC by Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth and less Mason. It's too late now. I told them a week ago, why what is up of these self? And post deadlines? Pushed the deadline they at Devlin Hodges rule. Let the records show he immediately came in and with the aid of one bag call, and another questionable call let a touchdown drive and to go ahead touchdown drive for the

first lead of the day. Then the next drive let a field goal drive featuring his own twenty one yard scramble. Right, the offense, you know, probably isn't going to get that much worse because what they had eleven or twelve drives and they had two hundred and sixty nine yards in the game, So neither team moved the ball at all despite the score being looking normal, and this this sound. It looks like a game dominated by defense, kind of

like you'd expect old Ravens Steelers games to be. I I come out a little concern about but we're not gonna find out next week because they play the Bengals, and I'm sure they can course correct for a week at least. But Lamar Jackson five picks, I know they're not all on him. There were some weird ball bouncing or in business today. Three pick but today and two last weeks week and nine sacks because it's the protection breaking down, forcing him into some weird throws and stuff

that I know. They beat up rough and tumble, ugly teams early, but they're not a team that's also doing the thing they did late last year where they're running for two d and twenty eight yards again and out physically knew they're trying to do both now and it's not really working out well. A couple of things. The Steelers defense, I think they're gonna sack a lot of quarterbacks five. Um, they get after it that defensive line. But it's the second week in a row where Lamar

Jackson ran into some sacks. He likes to run around and do figure eights in the backfield because he's explosive enough to turn those into big plays. Um. But they might have to go back to the drawing board a little bit. I will say though, that you got the sense during this entire game that the Ravens trusted their offense and they can run guys over once in a while and they can move the sticks, whereas with the Steelers it just feels like it's band aid after band

aid after band aid. I would say, now five weeks into the season, the a f C. North is so much different, um than I thought it would be, because you have the Steelers are more or less dead in the water now at and four on their third quarterback. There's no coming back from that, most likely Cincinnati's one of the worst teams in football. The Ravens clearly at flaws we talked about going into this game, their issues

on defense. It's hard to get a gauge on how much better the defense is when facing They lost starting safety Tony Jefferson to an a c L injury. Right he's done for the season. That's going to really hurt them. They just seem to be a team that's that can have good weeks and very bad weeks. Leaves the door open for the Browns market. I think the game on Monday night, if the Browns ball out against San Francisco, the talk of the league in terms of this division

is that this is the Browns Division. Well, I mean, it's so unusual because the f C North usually puts up two or three major blockades to one of the third teams trying to get into the postseason. I think I vowed in August the three teams from the North would make the playoffs. So just another listen, not to another reminder a single thing that I say. Ever, basically, uh, that Rudolph injury was scary. One of the scary Whenever they're taking the face mask off, and there's they were.

They were claiming it a big victory that he was walking They were charcause when you take the face mask off, which never happens, and you're walking off under kind of under your own power, you actually see in his face that he did not know where he was that was there. Well, he was his hit. He was down on the ground unconscious for a while. The Dolphins are at home watching that Tucker kick go in, though, and they're they're celebrating.

They're like, we got two picks in the top five right now, Ami Dolphins or a team that may come steal the number one pick. Watch out my Jets, by the way, and we'll get to them. Let's move on. Jets are coming out, rushing seven others back inside the five yard line. Here we go. Mintu in trouble, Addison chasing Addison. Still give me Chase, Minshu reversed his out,

Minshu throw short of the goal line. Keepy taps it away, no flax, and the Carolina Panthers on Hall of Honor Weekend survive Jacksonville to go to three inch Mick mix and Panther's radio network with the call Gardner. Minshew got

three shots at a inspiration. He even the final seconds each prayer unanswered, and the Panthers win over the Jackson Charlotte two stars carried the day from Carolina Christian McCaffrey, who tied a career high with two thirty seven yards from scrimmage of three touchdowns, and Brian Burns, who returned to FUM both fifty six yards for a TV and a strip sack of Minshew. Quite a three week stretch for the suddenly three and two Panthers a sizzler. Well, I don't know what you mean by ad like, Okay,

I agree this game. If you went in thinking here are four or five things I think I'm gonna see, I think you saw all of them. And you mentioned something that Christian McCaffrey is the most interesting, complete electric football player out there right now. Put some respect on his name. Who isn't anyone him? Jim Brown and O. J. Simpson have the most yards from scrimmage in the first five games in NFL. And you know what's coming because let's called him a poor man's album, Kamara. That was

a regrettable thing. He's not anyone's for me. I'd take all of Carolina's You know, hatred and tomatoes and whatever you want. That was bad. I think he was a Pro Bowl snub last year, if I'm not mistaken, and and so at this point, he's everything you could award wise, you could hand out, and he just what he does physically is it's not just compiling numbers. He's he's just

magical as an athlete. And aren't that many guys that get me excited from that angle at this point after watching a billion games, But he does what he's like doing things, and that that touchdown they just showed is another example. I think the Panthers defense you can count on now to make game changing plays and amp up an offense that does have a backup quarterback in there. Burns is a rookie defensive Rookie of the Year candidate if he's not the lead right now at this point,

dude has been doing this since the preseason. And you also got Gardner Minshew connecting with DJ Shark, which he's been telling you he's gonna do week after week all season long. Chark is a star in the making, and they got that last minute magic or would be magic from Minshew and they came very close to tying a game thanks to a missed extra point by the Panthers.

And I know that this hurts if you're two and three, if you're Jacksonville, but you just get the sense that both of these teams are gonna be knocking on the door and playing games in weeks sixteen, maybe even week seventeen that have January implications because they both for all their injured players and weaknesses, refused to die. And I we mentioned this on sky. I don't know what you do if you're Jacksonville when Nick Foles is available because

this quarterback that's fine. But I'm just saying, as it is a lifetime in the NFL, it is, well, it is. But we talked about we talked about a billion things that that are down the road, and I think that that you've just found it the best rookie quarterback of the group at the moment. I think I believe that you have to stick with him. If he keeps playing well,

you have to stick with him. And I thought it was interesting after the game one of their beat writers, I hope I'm saying his name correctly, car Lyon hayes Um. Someone asked him, is is Gardner minshewa franchise quarterback in your eyes, and he said, yes, I think the way he's played right now if he maintains that where he's avoiding mistakes, unlike Kyle Allen, who you know, continued to have some interceptions in this game or lost fumbles. Rather, the Panthers just need to get to Cam Newton in

decent shape. They they're winning games. I don't think there's certainly not going to be any quarterback controversy. But it's pretty amazing who they played without today. I mean, they didn't have Trade Turner, he's an All Pro guard. They didn't have their former m v P and Newton. They didn't have their best defensive player in KK Short. They didn't have left tackle okay, sorry, my best, their second, their second best defensive player. They didn't have their left

tackle and Greg Little. They you know, they're they're missing a lot of that team and they're winning games. If this is a tired conversation in any sport, but like, well, what is a movie? What does m VP mean most valuable player? Well, in that case, well, in that case Christian McCaffrey, this team is oh and five without mc affrey.

I don't need to circle back to him. But I just I'm just so blown away by how incredibly has been because Kyle Allen is excited as we got after his first start, is very much regrets at this point, McCaffrey is absolutely carrying this team while Newton recuperates. And if if the Panthers do take this into January and they have a nice January run, we can't forget what McCaffrey did to save their season at this point, because I think there's nothing less than that. Not to sell

their defense short, which has come out as well. But I really think McCaffrey has been an absolute godsend revelation. I guess you'd worry a little bit about his workload because you had to seven touches last week and they lent. They lean on him again this week about as hard as you can and he and he was banged up at the end of the game. And just to point out that Minshew had two bad fumbles in this one

return for a touchdown. He hasn't been perfect but from but throwing the ball once it gets out of his hands nine touchdowns in one pick this season. Also, he also threw one right to Bradberry on the last drive that should have been caught. But that okay, But I mean it's just that it's not perfect. All these other rookies are. I mean that, you know, making mistakes. Panthers

use your backups. You know, McCaffrey, he had what cramps in this game at the end, and so you brought in bonifin and he runs for fifty nine yards on one play and he gets five for eight in the touch It's like backup running backs can succeed behind a really good run blocking offensive line, which I think the Panthers are on their best days. Is Jalen Rams are

gonna play next week. I don't care anymore and not you know what I think that locker room, well that you know what their front office should care and all that, but the players have something else to focus on at this point. That sounds cliche, but it's like, forget Jalen Rams. You get on the field or not totally. I don't know how bang uppy is, but let's move on. Three. By shooting the near side, Bridgewater takes a gun, snap cock Mike Thomas at the five Bridge wanna tackle parts

into the end zone. Mike Thomas touch down. I told you that was too little man little, he can't go. He can't Taplin and that was another that the safety didn't have a shot at him at firstment he was not big enough. Mike Thomas playing like your grown man today ten catch, two touchdowns and SATs lead at thirty one seventeen. Allow some huge games today. In the NFL Zax streep and deuce McAllister with a nice call there Saints Radio Network. Teddy Bridgewater passed for yards and four touchdowns,

including that game ice in connection with Michael Thomas. In the New Orleans Saints beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers thirty one to twenty four. Bridgewater is now three and oh as the Saints starter and greg this is the first game you could say he was the main driver behind the victory. He was. Although it's it's tough to pick which Saints group played best in this game because they dominated. This was as their best game of the season, by far their most complete game of this season. The score

couldn't be more misleading. It was one way traffic. You know, Teddy's going deep and Jamis Winston can't go deep. He shook. We know box scores and stats lie sometimes. This was a one score game at the end, it was four D fifty seven to a hundred and seventy four yards before garbage time touchdown drive by the Bucks. Jamis Winston numbers in the box score looked pretty good. It was one of his worst games. He could have had five interceptions.

He was hesitant, He was shook early because his past protection that he had last week in Los Angeles was nowhere to be found in The Saints defensive line just ran up and down on them. Lattimore held Mike Evans to a shutout. It was it was just a complete shutout. No catches on three targets. He was across from him.

I'm almost every snap of the entire game. And if you're Saints fan, you gotta do feeling so good because the breeze injuries weirdly helped them, just because now that they're piling up wins, it's the rest of the team has come together and shown what they can do, and

Teddy's gotten better every week. Yep, you Greg you mentioned at the time of Drew brees Is injury that this is the kind of challenge that will reinvigorate Sean Payton, and it was a narrative and it's proven to be a savvy take that he has been reinvigorated by this and you I think you'd have to put him first. And I mean it's early, but coach of the year material. I think the Rams um You know, the Rams beat the Saints this year. It's the only team that beat

the Rams. But I think the Saints are the clear cut team of the NFC right now. I don't think there's anybody close to him. And when Drew Brees gets back, assuming the other pieces come together, this team looks as locked in as any team you'll find at this time of year. Now you have to carry that on through deep into the season, but you don't get the vibe is Seawan Payton team is gonna let down here? Right? I think this is a train that's gonna keep rolling.

On the flip side, I mean, Bruce arians came out of this who calling certain players on the roster soft and he was secondary secondary, And yeah, this was the game that made a believer in me out of Teddy Bridgewater. In this offense, for the distance that he needs to go, it's not obviously the best defense you face. But Michael Thomas became a thing again where he was an absolute deep threat. I just I wondered when the offense might catch up to him with the way they were operating before.

So Alvin Kamar is a total star, and he can takes fifteen screen passes a game and Mike mincemeat out of the right defense. But it's much better to have a vertical danger threat right. The key play of the game for Teddy to me was a third intent. When it was I believe twenty four to seventeen the Buccaneers had scored to make it a one score game. He had a third intent. He had pressure in his face and he threw a dime on a deep out that is not an easy pass to complete over the top

of a zone defense. And he made I would say, four throws like that in the game. It's not like he needed to make a ton of dazzling throws, but he made four really impressive throws. He made one mistake on an interception that was thrown a little behind Kamara, and Sean Payton called an amazing game. Taysom Hill was more involved in this game. Uh, and it worked when Taysom Hill was in the game. You know what you get next week? Up tick Teddy, who were all into

now against Gardner Minshew. So if I'm reading the room right, you guys think the Saints are now like a thirty point a week offense. No, I wouldn't. I think, just get to this was one game. I don't even think that you can expect that out of Drew Now. This was one game where they hit everything well. I still worry about the depth that it's Thomas Kamara and what else. Jared Cook had made a couple of mistakes but also made a couple of plays today for the first time.

They're but They're offensive line is really good and their defensive line, which I really want to stress Davenport Jordan's now that Rankins is back, Malcolm Brown is playing well for them. I'm forgetting someone here, Trey Hendrickson. When he's out there, they're as good as any defensive line in the league right now. They shut down the run and they get after it. And if if you're that good upfront with Sean Payton and whoever, they're gonna be gold.

And Alvin Kamara hasn't even really gotten rolling yet. I feel like this this is an offense that's gonna get funny. We say that, and you're right, but he's like on pace for eighteen hundred yards from scrimmage. Yeah, I guess he hasn't had any like extreme McCaffrey type game the Seattle Yeattle. Yeah, but that you're right, I'm with you. Like they held him down and he still had a hundred six yards all right, Let's head to the swamps

of Jersey. Cook two yards from scrimmage. Cousins back to path, fires to the end zone and it's yes, touchdown Ada a nine yard touchdown his second today, the second from the arm of Kirk Cousins and Minnesota Leeds twenty four ten. That is Paul Allen of Vikings Radio Network, not Paul Allen, the murder victim in American Psycho. That would be wild. That would be hard to achieve. Kirk Cousins threw two

touchdowns to Adam Feeling. That was Jared Leto's character in the film Just Well rewatch on that Please tell further into it. Kirk Cousins threw two touchdowns to Adam DeLand

Delvin Cook. David Cook had more than two hundred yards of total offense and the Vikings humbled Giants rookie Daniel Jones victory h Yeah, Jones is probably pretty humble guy actually, so I don't know if he was humbled, but it was a reminder or maybe a first lesson that um being a quarterback at the highest level, it's gonna be bad days. Everybody has them. This was jones first bad game. Kirk Cousins um apologize to Adam Feeling on a podcast

this week that was still pretty weird. We didn't really delve into that as much as we probably should have. Like podcast, it's like kicking it. That's also weird person. But anyway, like and that's you know, that's the problem. I know, lodged onto your radar, but it's just how he operates. But action beats contrition, and he targeted his number one boy, my number one boy, eight times. Theland responded with seven catches for Buck thirty two t ds

and tens. The final um that featured a Vikings Dalvid Cook fumble at the one yard line after he had broken a long run when they were going in. It featured a Vikings first and goal from the one where they got held from to three points, and it also the Vikings kneeling on the ball inside the Giants five as the game ended. So this wasn't really even close this game. The Vikings a team who caught a ton of heat uh leading up to this game, and they're

still probably issues with this team. But what was that? Who's that you hit the button? Hit the wrong button? Apologies a human sound of cough. I mean it's it's good. After six years of doing this, we're just looking for new experiences. I have like a ninety nine point nine percent successfully with the cough button. We got the other part of it today without looking. So you do cough a lot, just a lot of coffee. But a long time ago, are you still vaping? The vaping is very dangerous,

chemical marks, not a vapor. People are apparently dying from reading articles that are quite suspicious chemical burns bro um. Anyway, so it got the there are still issues, you imagine in Minnesota in that locker room. Stefon Diggs who ended up getting a big beefy fine this week for missing practices and meetings. And he wasn't exactly a huge part of this offense for four targets, three catches for forty four, but you're getting feeling involved. Dalvin Cook a little bit

of a slappy ball ball game from me. He put the ball on the ground twice, lost the fumble as I said, but also again showed that he is just basically when he gets in space, There's very few guys who are as terrifying as him. And the Giants UH defense playing very thin to the linebacker position and you see that with great, wide open swaths of space. So check this game out. They had almost five yards the total offense Minnesota and they took the foot off the

pedal in the second half. UM so a very one sided win. And my last point before I throw to you guys is UH. And we talked about this west on Sky Sports. Kirk Cousins and play action have been that is a bread and butter. It should be for this offense, but it hadn't been all season. But in this game he went nuts with it, and you saw how dangerous they can be when they sell the Dalblin Cook aspect of the offense and then use their big receivers UH and play action yardage almost matched all their

total up into Sunday with one game today. Well, I think you know Kirk kept the Wolves at bay for another week. Now he returns home to face the Eagles, coming off a pair of impressive games and we have said you trust in Kirk and the Vikings offense when they're clearly the better team playing at home. I don't know if they're clearly better than the one pm game that no one's paying attention against the depleted defense, But you know, you can only play the team in front

of you. And he came out after this week and he had more yards in the first half by far than the Giants had the entire game. Dalvin Cook also had more yards in this game than the Giants had the entire game. They had two d and eleven yards, so it was a complete game from their entire team, which is a veteran a veteran thing to do. There too two and two teams entering this game, and yet you know, as Dan said, they're they're really not close.

I think they're the team that's gonna make a fool out of us week after week because we're gonna overreact. In theory. They got players, though, so I'm not sure about that because they have well okay, but I I see them as an eight and eight team and they're gonna do what they did last week, and then next week they're gonna go have a breakdown when we're all freaking out again. I'm never going to pick them to lose at home. Well there. I still believe in them,

I really do. And what extent though, what to what limit? And where do they think they could potentially win the division? I think they have a chance to go to the super Bowl? Why not If they don't, I don't buy this. The first five games of your season winds up telling you what they're gonna be. And what I see is a lot of talent on this team and a lot of people that have been together and they're not They haven't hurt themselves with bad losses, so I think they're

a team that can change. It's a test very much on my radar the issues internally, because if that is festering in late September early October, if there is more drama, if there's more struggles in the field, that could be something where the locker room blows apart. But I think from a talent standpoint, I still think this is a talented offense. I still think the defense is talented. We saw today, uh where Jones was just kind of never comfortable in this game. They sacked him four times, hit

him a bunch more. He averaged less than five yards per attempted the Danny dimes in the Gabbard zone. Uh so, a nice game for the Vikings Cousins. Nice bounce back game. But yes, let's see where they are next week, because people will be watching up to the talent every week. I mean, it's no one's questioning that they're talented players. They're not terrible shape. I'm not I'm not saying I'm

not shooting them off Earth's surface into deep space. It's just I'm allowed to look at a couple of these teams with a suspicious eye versus shoving all of them into the NFC title game. They're not all gonna make it, of course. It's more just like whether we're ruling them out now, and I just don't see that that Wait, the NFC North is tricky. Though all four teams are above five after five weeks. You just don't see that

almost ever. And I don't think any of them are flukey in terms of how they got to their records, So it's gonna be very tricky to get out of. That's beginning yang for the a F North. I operated down on the ground. Let's move on Watson then, with two receivers, to left, Deshan gets the snap looking left, Watson throwing Tamfield and he's got Fuller across the fifty tap five rock and roll flucks down Will Fuller and

that seal stuff deal awesome. Love it, Mark vander me or one of my favorite calls from you that I've ever heard. Sleep well, my friend. Deshaun Watson through for a career high four six yards and tied his personal best five touchdown passes, including three to that man Will Fuller. Texans drop a fifty burger on the garbage falcon, a stink fifty three to thirty two final Fuller finished with two hundred and seventeen. I'm telling you this is a

Fantasy Goldline Week five. Some of these monster performances seventeen yards for will Filler Fuller, who, by the way is their number two receivers. So that's pretty cool. Greg. When the Texans are right there are positively scary. This is such a fun game and performance for you guys to watch on game pass. I think something to point out with that radio call, which was really well done. It

was still a game. Then it's third and five. It's a one possession game, under two minutes to go and I think most teams would either call a run there. Because the Falcons had no time outs, you could have burned the clock down about one twenty or you could have called a very safe pass. But what do they do? They make up a play as they go along. Fuller adjusted that route. He saw what the defense was doing, Watson saw him, makes a beautiful throw. Watson is as

streaky as any quarterback in the league. I mean, they scored twenty four points combined in their first two home games. They put fifty three. He's streaky sometimes within games. This game was all just one good streak. Poor at Ryan's trying to come back in this game. And here are the Texans last nine possessions and they only had ten touchdown touchdown, field goal, end of half. Okay, the Falcons are still ahead at that point, despite you know, Texans

doing well. Okay, we're fighting back alright, touchdown field goal. Okay, the Falcons. They're still in this game. It's one possession even though they haven't stopped touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. Matt Ryan, just like, give me a chance to come back in this game. There's no chance. This defense is wretched. And after the game, Arthur blank, you know, gave his coaching

staff the old vote of confidence. But the bloggers who are about Falcons fans and watching the coaches film and breaking this down every week are pointing out how poorly coached this defense is. It's san Quinn, which who was also the defensive coordinator of one of the great defenses of the century in Seattle, so things can change. And dan Quinn, who I think lived up to the promise

early on. And now you get into a weird space with these young coaching guys who the message at this point is fraid and it's lost because what are you telling anyone that you stand for as the Falcons head coach when everything was based around urgent, relentless defense. Zero sacks on Watson, That's what flips the switch on Watson when he's not getting taken down five, six, seven times in a game and not to the ground twelve or thirteen times. But they almost had a Gholston in this game.

The Atlanta Falcons had one quarterback hit, no sacks. Deshaun Watson has been protected pristinely three straight weeks, and I know he took a lot of sacks last week. He he had got great pass protection in that game a week ago. That was not a great performance for him and the play calling and everyone else. And this team looks awfully dangerous when he's protected and Will Fuller's healthy and Kiki qt had a really good game when they're

they're just adding weapons to this group. They're a weird team. Can I throw weird it? So like with the Vikings, Like the Texans have their issues all over the place, and they're a weird team. But to me, I look at their ceiling and I'll say, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna count you out of anything at all on any level from a psychic level. I look at the Vikings to just say, I don't feel that way. I don't know what the difference is. Maybe it's totally illogical.

Here's that is that good old line. And I feel like Houston they have to contend with two incredible superpowers

in their own conference. Though, Like when you want to talk about ceilings on a team out in their division, and so talking about if you were trying to play in February here right there, trying to get a home game in the playoffs and start there, and then you can see what happens and j j Watt had one of, if not his best games since he's returned from his injury today too, So there's just a lot of night nice signs for this team. All right, let's move on,

get excited. WESTC five man pressure protection is good? Flacco froze. Why don't people receive the flat coast? There? He pull's wife. So I'm down the sideline. Twenty fights to the lines, touchdown Denver. It is a touchdown injection run of seventy yards and Denver is in front. Nothing over the Chargers. Dave Logan with the called Broncos Radio Network. Yes, West, the Broncos are off the schny at Joe Flacco connected on a long one to Courtland Sutton Philip Lindsay piled

up a hundred forty seven yards of total offense. I think fas y'all. That defense shut out the Chargers in the first half, held on for a win at the dignity and health for all park um Wes. They got it done well. They controlled this game from the outset, and there were a few scary moments in the second half when the offense went in the tank for about straight minutes. Um. I don't think they had a first down in the third quarter as they wanted. They did

not have a first down in the third quarter. Um, but the Broncos defense had their best game of the year. And you're not gonna see a huge box score for von Miller and Malik Read, but they both played well. Malik Read is the undrafted rookie filling in for Bradley Chubb. He played well. Kareem Jackson had three or four huge plays, including knocking the ball out of Austin Ekeler's hands as he was diving for the pylon on the last play

of the first half. It was a really good performance by the Broncos d and frankly their running game, which has been good all year and they have they have controlled the clock, this offense has They just have had so many untimely penalties from their offensive line, killing their running game, killing their momentum. And in this today they got through that. Philip Lindsay was spectacular and was uh he had he had a cut and some suddenness in the four minute offense that was, you know, got me

out of my seat. It was so impressive. What I mean the play that you mentioned West at the end of the first half being able to keep Eckler out of the end zone there and preserve with seventeen point lead, and then Rivers goes down the field and throws that interception. That's fourteen points um nine times out of ten with the Chargers in their offense. But give Denver credit for making the stands. I didn't think Rivers looked comfortable all game.

He should have had a couple more passes picked off. He did not play well, and they had no running game. Melvin Gordon came back and we assumed that he and Ekeler would maybe go back to being one of the

best tandems in the league. They had nineteam first downs zero zero came via the run for seven yards for they opened up and that first half with the with the fumble at the end, punt, interception, miss field goal which was a killer, then that fumble at the end, come out of it with three straight punts and interception. They can't This is the Chargers team that loses you because they cannot get out of their own way. They haven't looked right all year. I know, they're just two

and three and they've had some moments. I think Rivers has played really well until this until this week. They played well, but he's had some ill time turnovers, which Joe Flaccos hadn't had it in this game too, he had to. One was on a on a tip pass. But there's something it's the defense mostly, but there's something

like not jelling with this team. Maybe that's what happens when you lose five to six starters to injury and you don't have a home field because once again this was a Broncos home game, and Rivers has to overcome that offensive line every week. He does a good job of it. But they have scored thirteen points or fewer

and three of the last four games. And every every Keenan Allen catch and he didn't have many today for free had a big drop to I. I always just think of Wow, it's crazy the numbers Alan puts up when so many of those catches and throws are tough throws, Like it's not like they're getting Keenan Allen open. It's just a hard way to run an offense. By the way West, big road win here, oh and four, history

tells us you're done now one and for it. And now they get back to back games in Denver, where I know they've lost two games in a heart bake breaking fashion. But they're tough, they're well. West is on the roller coaster, so we're on it with him, home against not on it, Titoons next week winn AA bowball game, of course, and then home against the Chiefs on a short week on Thursday night football. I think that Titans game might be the only game all year the Broncos

play a team with a worse offensive line than they have. Troublesome, Let's move on. I tried thirty one yard attempt by Zane Gonzalez to win the game, tied at twenty three with two seconds to go. The whole the snap's good, the balls down, the kick is up, the kick here's good. Break out, the boat ties. This one's for Mr b. Cardinals win it twenty three, the first win of the Cliff Kingsbury era. Wow. Like that call? Of course, Bill

built Bidwell, the team's original owner who passed away last week. Yes, so the Cardinals win one for Bidwell. Rookie Kyler Murray ran for a touchdown and lead the Cardinals on a drive that ended with Zane gonzalez thirty one yard field goal in the final play. Cardinals, Yes, get that first win under Cliff Kingsbury twenty three over the Bengals, who stink in their own building. Man, Greg look like, look like for a moment. The Bengals have find a way

to spend their misery for at least one week. But Murray's yeah, I just want to say thanks for all, you know, as a representative for all the Cardinals fans out there, I just assumed covering this game, this would be the last game we got to. So it's nice. This is, you know, kind of in the middle. Okay, yeah, because Bills Tennessee higher and that was just an oversight, so but enjoy it. But you know what it was.

It was a football game where if you thought, oh, these are winless teams and it's probably not gonna be very interesting, you know what, you were right. For fifty six minutes, the Cardinals should have been up by thirty points in this game. They were tripling the Bengals total yard and it was twenty three to nine, and suddenly the Bengals go wild, score two touchdowns uh in the

last five minutes to make it a tie game. And then Kyler Murray rips off a nice run that reminded me a little bit of Michael vick uh in his famous run against the Vikings. Yeah, really small version, and we talked about it going into this game. If there's one thing to like about the Cliff Kingsbury experience, it's the running game. And they ran for two hundred and

sixty six yards. Murray ran for three uh, David Johnson had a total of one sixty six from scrimmage and even Chase Edmonds had a big run that put the game away. David Johnson putting up big numbers week after week like the old days, I mean, a lot of it's been through the air, so this this is actually encouraging. I don't think they have had anything close to this

on the ground. The Cardinals so far, we're good doing pretty good like yards per carrying if you watch like they're opening up some holes where It's been a pretty good running game throughout the year. The problem is that they're trailing so much you don't get to use it. So this was a nice game for them where they could get a lead against the Bengals team who looked so overmatched in the first half. I just was thinking this is a low moment for the Andy Dalton They

were not for the Bengals franchise. We just had some low moment moments, but not looking competitive against the Cardinals is pretty long. It's a way to win in this game. Marvin Lewis, what does he? Yeah, Well, is somewhere You're right, Marvin Lewis is somewhere saying just like, hey, remember this, this is what it was like before I was there too.

Marvin Lewis raised the Titanic Chris Wesling, Right, but this is a Bengals team that was similar to last year's that really had so many backbreaking injuries that you how do you even evaluate this Bengals team? That's fair Tyler boyd and is the only receiver left. And and the Buzzards. The Buzzards are circling our GM. App yes, there are a lot of gms, according to Jason lack On for of CBS Sports, just circling the Bengals, trying to get a j Green, checking in on Geno Atkins, checking in

on Carlos Dunlap. This is a team going nowhere this year. You think they'd say no to moving these guys fun. Do you know how that that operation is a mom and pop? They are They don't think of things the same way other teams do. And I would be surprised if they sold off lifelong Bengals like A J. Green, Geno Atkins and Carlos Dunlap. Green is unique. I don't think they would with Atkins and you know, probably not done Lap. But Green's unique because he's in the last

year of his contract. He hasn't healthy at all, and I think you might get a good offer for him, but I don't think you can get a first form at this stage with those in If your Minnesota just like ship out Stefon Diggs and then you get Stefen Dick's contract, I would take that if I'm the Bengals and I feel like Minnesota, you know, things like that, things cant of the Vikings have solved any of their problems with that movie. Green is a rare talent. Why

not you get you get a J. Green? Who Green? Now? Yeah, well it's not even on the field right now. Green is the rare talent though, where you might roll the dice in that situation one you know, on the short list, I mean, did you want to release back on the field Diggs when they asked him today if he was happy to be in Minnesota. He goes, yeah, I'm happy to be here, and then he did did he did a one, He did a wink and then a click sound. He was like, yeah, I'm happy to be here, and

then with a little wink and a click. That's what you want to hear. A limited amount of problem interest in the way these guys are handling their business. You're under contract, sometimes you do. I mean you're getting paid a lot of money. Let to move on. Let's here it for Cliff Kingsbury's first win. Offset I formation set up right side the snap, Josh's gonna keep it himself running around the left side. Statement, bounce first down Buffalo at the nineteen yard line, and the celebration is on

for the Bills offensive players on the field. One thirty six, one thirty five, and the Buffalo Bills are gonna get out of Tennessee with a hard funk victory. John Murphy Murph, I would call mirth if we were like having bruise. I think that's what he goes by. Hey Murph, you'd fit right in. Nice guy. Mur about some wings Vegan wings for my friend and the arc Is that a thing? How do you make a wing sound like where do the bones standing? Over and over, let's just point it.

Come to work, deal with Dan for nine hours, go back home, wake up to the same thing again. Travel to a foreign country with him, have to deal with the same thing on a high octane pitch for eight days in a foreign country. Come back to the stage. It's reshuffled the deck, same thing, over and over. You guys think this is a joke. This is how he

really feels. Josh third down scramble on the final two minutes locked up another win for the Bills, who bounced back from last week's near miss against the Patriots with a fourteen to seven win over the Titoons in Nashville, West. Another big day for the Bill's stud defense and a different kind of Kai's Kai to deal with. Huh Kiro Santos missed four field goals, two in the fifty yard range, two in the thirty something yard range, and that was

one big problem. The other big problem is this offensive line. We've been saying for a while that that Marcus Mariota turns pressure into sex as frequently as any quarterback. I think it's time to just say this isn't even on Marcus Mariota. This offensive line is brutal. Their guards are terrible. Roger Stafford is looking like an early free agent bust. The other guard spot. They pushed Nate Davis, a rookie

third rounder, into the starting lineup. He struggled um Jordan Phillips, the Bills defensive tackle had six and a half sacks in his career coming into this game, had three in the first half, all on third down. I believe well, at least Mariotta took three third down Saxon row, which is his move. He's gonna use it. But this Titan, I think this offensive line is an achilles heel that's gonna keep them from being good all year, even with getting Taylor Luan back, because that was the should have

this week. You should have seen the Bills players talking trash at Taylor Lawan after the game, saying he's basically just a mouth and that's it. We know what his weakness is. He can't do with pressure to the inside. They were just like we were glad he came back so he can get some of this action. Mouth did pass alide de dector test I'll throw that out there, but that didn't Never want I want to see how we verified those results of Taylor Luwan. Hey, we always

talk about you know, we don't know who these teams are. Hey, it's week five, you know they're one week they're up, one week they're down. The Buffalo Bills are the same team every week, and I'm I'm falling for them, just this weird, ugly amalgamation of I don't know, good coaching and bad offense. One of one of the things, one of the things that they do have every week is they don't have a great offense overall. But give Brian

Dable Chris, that's what I mean. He has called He has done package plays at a really high level, where guys like Isaiah Mackenzie are taking end arounds for forty six yards. They have a lot of guys that they're just using for a few plays a game and getting a lot out of them. John Brown hit another good game too. Some of day Ball's most creative play calling came last year when they were even more limited on offense and had to do anything to get generate positive yards.

They four and one, and they're they're a ten win team even with this formula, because you're gonna knock out another six teams between now and New Year's with this defense problem. They have a week schedule. We know both of these teams Tytoons are the Tytoons. Also, fans were really upset with Mike Vrabel after this game. I didn't like watch closely enough because I'm covering two games to see why they were upset with him. But they were very upset with Mike Vrabel. And don't think he's a

score to start. Well, yeah they got seven points, but to me, that's on the offensive line. Dan, didn't you mention it just simply not that this isn't a novelty for you, but that you were going you were absolutely just gonna wait another week before you even got excited about them. Well yeah, I mean, but it's it couldn't be everyone who's coming at you. It could not be less surprised by the outcome of this game. The offense doesn't show up against a good opponent, a good defense.

You're in your building with a chance to build build some momentum. But the Tytoons don't build momentum. They just go hot and cold, hot and cold, with nothing in between. Remember you were right about Smoky Brown all those years ago. By the way, he's a true number receiver when he's healthy. It's just the true number one. Though I didn't think he had this in him. He's been playing great al right, Frank Gore. I used this game to look at that guy too. He's still doing well. It's not my heart

been riding that train for a long time. It's been the train has been going. I don't know what. Uh, no, rookie Hollywood. Uh this weekend? She is, I don't know where she is. She's essentially a part time producer at the wedding of our friend Emma. But fair enough. Oh yeah, that's right. Okay, congratulations to Emma. By the way, I'm a m a VP of that Vanity podcast what is it called? The end the broadcast? All? I thought you

meant that Dave Damna Chek football program. But she has moved on from She has moved on to another comp married a man named Brett. A nice guy. Brett's a nice guy. He is a very nice guy and no bile behind the glass, filling in and doing great work so far. Um, the one thing you have to work on the bill is the the drop. We might not have fluded you in on it yet. So he has like a PFF score right now, you're too fine. Just a little orson Wells and we're going to get that

up to a hundred. He's the Mitchell Schwartz of right tackle. Can we get in a bill cam for the YouTube show? I mean, the kid deserves it, he's killing it, does They didn't even get a camera. Look, Bartlett behind the glass says no, no camera from the buy. He's like he hasn't earned it on his hair today for that's still giving him the rookie treatment. Let him go, all right? There were two truly dreadful NFC uh NFC East versus a f C East game, so let's knock those outcaud

I try to go power one again. They go fourth rolls now fires recepted and recepted by Gary the SIDEWI Coast day for Garry, fut South day for Gary, and he comes with the good. So the pick six by Nathan Gary holds up. Nathan Gary, yes, indeed returned an interception for a score. Orlando Scandrick took a strip sack the distance as well two defensive scores for the Eagles, who route the Jets thirty one to six. In Philadelphia. The Eagles savaged third string Jets quarterback Luke Fowk to

the tune of ten sacks sixteen quarterback hits. The Jets managed a hundred and twenty five yards against the league's thirty second ranked defense. Entering Sunday Um the Eagles offense met. The one thing UH during this dreadful oh and four start for the Jets is that the defense is mostly held up Uh. Not been a great unit, but it has not been embarrassing. It's been the offense that's been embarrassing. And in this case, we saw it again because Carson

Wentz was held under two yards passing. He only threw a touchdown one touchdown past Jordan Howard ran for sixty two yards and one touchdown. So a modest day on the ground for the Eagles as well. But when you have a mismatch um and any team that sends Luke Fox out on the field is going to have a mismatch. But I think UM with the Jets right now, it's

it's so beyond Fox. And And there was the report Mike Garifolo reported before the game that um Adam Gaze, who was confident enough in the idea of Sam Donald returning from his mono about that he gave Donald the majority of first team reps heading into Friday. UM, and then when Donald was a surprise out because his spleen had not UM, I don't know us in size, I think returned to its It thrust Funk back into the first string and you know what that will be. That

will be what everyone gets on Gaze four. Uh. And that's fine. You could have given Luke Fox a hundred days of reps in a one in a matter, because Luke Fowk is not an NFL quarterback. But on the subject of Adam Gaze, there is no way to sugarcoat at this point how bad the team looks and they're

not gonna win these games. They really got screwed with the schedule because on top of everything else, they're just playing great teams every week, it seems the Jets, But it doesn't excuse the embarrassment week after week and the fact that they in this game, they didn't look prepared at all coming off a bye week. So I'm I'm kind of reaching the point and wondering if Adam Gaze could be in danger if Sam Donald doesn't come back and absolutely uh turn this team instantly into a competitive unit.

Because I think it's gotten that bad and that embarrassing. I would imagine for Christopher Johnson and Jets owner the Jets, this is not a great set up for Sam Donald. You've got an angry Cowboys team followed by the Patriots followed by the Jaguars, and the latter two can damage a quarterback if they want to. And I would say it's probably a great thing that Sam Donald was not out there today. If he were to take even half the punishment that Luke folketon, well it should be not yes,

no half. There's no way that that Sam Donald takes ten sacks. Fox is completely overwhelmed and he held onto the ball too long. He had a deer in the headlights look for the entire game. He's just not a pro quarterback. Maybe he develops in time, but he's an undrafted practice squad player that is just getting killed against great NFL teams. Adding Gaze Blaze, he's a pro quarterback so much that he's employed him at two places and brought him with him, So I think he deserves at

least some of that. Luke Fox, I think you're right. I think that watching the Jets is impossible right now, and Gaze deserves a lot of blame for that. Even with the fact that they've lost two quarterbacks, it has been that bad for them. Fourteen drives, nine first downs. They did score touchdown on offense for the first time this week. One it happened after a muff punt by

the Eagles. But you know, Chio Capatia of the Athletics wrote a stat that only three times since the start of last year has a team average under two point five yards per play, and the fox last two starts are two of those three. It goes to n So there you go. The NFL maybe is not the league for Luke faul. No, he'll be an XFL quarterback in about a year or two. Um, this is the worst star to jut season in my lifetime. And that's saying

they are that bad. Eagles. Eagles the last two weeks have gotten off the mat you know in the schedule helps him out this week, but with so many in reason and they still have them. Uh, that's pretty crucial for a team that now is tied for the NFC East lead. And check this out. Yes they're now they're three and two and the Jets was a great basic practice run through. Now they go on a three game road trip where they get at Minnesota, at Dallas, at Buffalo,

then they come home for Bears Patriots, Seahawks. That is a gauntlet. That's a gauntlet, and you you imagine you would sign off maybe for three and three there wait to Tucker would be super Bowl run. If you're a wild card team into the middle of your season, would you be happy with three and three? I don't know. Probably not. You're probably if you few yourself as a Super Bowl contender, you want to win four of those six.

But it's not gonna be easy. I would imagine the Eagles look at their roster and think, we can beat any team any week. We should beat any team any week. Let us move on to the nation's capital or close to it. Landover that's in the Middy under center on the retreat, dropping back, he's pressure, he rolls wife, he throws a coming rightside for an open bowl and catch

it for Farndon. Then Joe touchdown. Patriots Brandon Bolden shades of Denver several years ago in the snow got the gout you last year when he was in Miami, have two big touchdown runs. They bring him out of the backfield. He goes off the tight end, little double move, will route and it's a perfect throw by Brady. It's twenty nine yard touchdown the Brandon bold Yeah, that is enough, come down. We let him out of jail. That's not getting Really, this is the official song of the Patriots.

We're gonna hear it's sixteen or seventeen more times. Bob Sochi and Scott Zolak with the call Patriots Radio Network. Tom Brady throws for three yards three touchdowns, including that hook up the Brandon Bolden, and the Pats got another strong performance from their d to seven win over the Redskins, who are still looking for a w. Some of these bad teams are just dragging down our schedule week after week with non competitive games, and the Jets and Washington

are two of them. Mark, what did you take away from this game featuring teams on opposite sides of the pro football spectrum. You know that I like to call

games early on and just see if it's sticks. And my internal game of our buzzer hit when Mike Nugent nailed a thirty seven yard field goal to put New England up nine to six, and there was the reason was very simple that you knew that Washington got an early touchdown off a pretty crazy reverse by a guy name let me Steven Sims Jr. The undrafted rookie, and that put him up early. But then you could tell

right away that this call McCoy led offense. And it hurt me to to observe this so early in the game. Was doomed, utterly doomed. And New England the one takeaway.

And I know it looks absurd inside a game that wound up thirty three to seven, little concerned about their offense through the first thirty minutes of this because they they put a lot The Redskins put a ton of heat on Brady and I know that we know he's one of the slowest guys, but he looked extra slow, like shoes filled with the mixture of I know they would say cement, so cement plus like iron fillings and

like car parts that you could fit in there. I mean, it was just he's running like a man that did not fit out there athletically. They threw the ball thirty one times in the first half, basically gave up on the ground game and just went after the Redskins until they kind of pushed their way through them. I don't see a lot of chemistry between Tom Brady and Josh Gordon at this point for the kind of player that you think Josh Gordon could be. But Edelman took the

game over in the second half. The defense was unbelievable. And to me, that's a lot on the Redskins that just have no They have no there's nothing about them that gives them any hint of identity. It's shut down Adrian Peterson in a wanting quarterback behind it, one of a line that looked as bad as any line in the NFC in the first half of this game. I

don't know what. Gruden doesn't even care anymore. By the way, after the game, Uh, he's asked again as he's asked every week now, and it cannot be easy, you know, do you think you're gonna get fired soon? And he said, well, I'll see if my key card works on Monday, which is an honest response because if I imagine, he feels very much in the dark, uh, and his own organization

right now, which has to be a tough situation. And he also said that when they asked me thought he's been given enough time to turn this program around, and it hasn't happened. That is a guy who knows. Look, I've had one of the toughest jobs in sports and and I fought the good fight for a while, and

it's not gonna happen for me. And I know. Adrian Peterson had an amazing quote when asked about the Patriots defense, and he said they showed a lot, a lot of exotic stuff on film, but against us, they didn't really you know, it was like, Hey, we'll sit back here and see what you guys do and allow you guys

to mess up. That's a Hall of Fame player who's diagnosing that the Patriots are basically dialing it back against the Redskins because they know they can what an advantage not show anything on film for a regular season week. I hope Jake Gruden meets up with Red and they go to Zee Watton Neo and he just chills for a while. He's earned it. Yeah, poor Gruden. They even you know those video services of him partying. Uh, and you wonder the timing on that. It's just it's a

horrible situation. You just when that job becomes available, as it inevitably will, um in January. Who who wants that job? And I know there's there's only thirty two of these jobs in the world, and being a head coach is always the goal for anybody that's starting from when you're you know, coaching peewee football. But God, this just feels like a hopeless situation Washington right now. Maybe Adam no more Patriots, bring Jim Zorn back. No more Patriots Bears comparisons, please,

until they play a real offense. I mean, I've never made I I'm surprised that everyone coming out of that Bill's game especially didn't think, oh, the Bill's defense is the best one on the field. I think any defense in today's NFL is gonna heart have a hard time truly dominated. I'm with you on the page of defense, the best defense in the league, and they've been lights out since what the first half of the a f C Championship game last week last year. But let's see,

let's see him play somebody. I mean, this must be coming from people who never saw the five Bears, who would not only stomp you, but knock your quarterback out of the game every week. It's statistical, that's Scott's piling up. But it's all because they lost Philip or set to hamstring injury early. That's that could be a pretty big loss if it's for a while. Because they're thin. They're thin there. They'll be fun. They'll be fun offense, you know. Oh,

they're in the market for for offensive help. They're one of the teams connected to all these receivers. Let's go with just get digs in there, get a j Green, bring Antonio Brown back, get in there. Could he use a guy like Brown maybe later in the season. Let's move on to Sunday night football homes under center, hands off the Damnian lawyers docked up, but got it, don't sir?

Houston coming up sorts again for the big fellow the Cults Knights, and there gets a tackle for loss on fourth down and the Cults takeover and plus territory inside the chief threty five yard line. You heard it, Matt Taylor, the Cults Radio Network, the justin Houston. Revenge game, revenge game, revenge game, revenge games are undefeated. He makes the big stop on fourth down, basically putting a bow on an incredible effort by the Cults. You go into arrowhead, those

are this horrible music It's like Dirk Diggler's band. I mean, you got the touch. It's a good band. The fact that Huey Lewis is resorting to these cheap tactics to get a cheap bucks, shame on you, shadowy league figures. Look what you've done to ours. That a little back although kind of looks like the producer from the studio book, But oh what a disgrace. All right? Anyway, Colts win. Colts win in a game they absolutely um dominated time

of possession seven minutes and fifteen seconds. And yes, yes, Chris Westling, the Chiefs were beat up in this game. Guys went down and once Patrick Mahomes got spiked by his teammate and the ankle, he was never the same quarterback. And that probably or may have swung this game. But the culture beat up too. They deserve a lot of credit for what they were able to pull off tonight. Well before this game, nobody had ever held Patrick Mahomes and Adie Reid under twenty six points and the Colts

haved that, So give them a ton of credit. And Sammy Watkins left with the hamstring injury. They had some offensive line injuries. Like you said, the Mahomes injury that it didn't feel like we were dealing with a full deck of cars. But give the Colts credit. No, what did nobody else is stopping this offense? No Chris Jones maybe the biggest injury for the Chiefs if that turns into a long term injury, But the Colts are gonna feel bad for anyone. And when it comes to injuries,

they're missing both their two starting safeties. They're missing Darius Leonard. And what they've found in this three and to start before they thereby is a backbone and an identity that's up front, and that means there's a small margin for air. I don't think it's the most talented team one to fifty three in the league, but they're in every game, and in a game like this where they started just

running downhill and mashing the Chiefs. There there is a spirit to this team, and I think Jacobe Brisette, even on a night where he didn't play that well, fits within this spirit that seems like a tone setter for them. Right. Anthony Costanzo is playing well and I think the coach gives them real advantages every week. I see plays that Frank Reich draws up that are beautiful and that his players execute well, but that you don't see on most teams.

I love their defense too. It's like guys like Carrie Willis and Grover Stewart, Bobby o creat like these are stars. You can call about the justin Houston revenge game, but you gotta check the box score to get the full name on these because because they're they're an emerging defense and they play very well together. And this, to me is the kind of game I'll sign up for every time. Because the Colts kept offering these seven a half, eight nine minute punished four team play three five yard drive,

I don't think I've ever seen that. What better method, what better recipe to take the Chief's offense out? Now that the injuries reduced Kansas City to sault tonight, but that this is the recipe. The four teen play thirty five yard drive that covered eight minutes and thirty four seconds and ended with an Adam Vinetieri thirty one yard field goal. Vinetieri is got things under control here. Hit a bunch of really short ones today thirty two, thirty two,

thirty one and twenty nine. Um. That was the one where you saw that the Chiefs were essentially gassed and they were getting beaten at the line of screw image and getting pushed around. And when the Chiefs got back on the field, and you kept on thinking, especially when they do get off the field after that long drive at six and he's still got a half quarter to play, and you think, oh, this is where the Chiefs go down the field and take a one point lead. While

they couldn't do it. The offense just could not get going. Uh and Mahomes it, you know, I I hated the way this game played out. You know, good on the Colts for what they've did done, But when you see want to see Patrick Mahomes on Sunday Night football. I'm looking for the laser show and to see him and he that touchdown pass was vintage Mahomes. But to see

Patrick Mahomes limping around is it hurts my heart. And I know, uh, Ryan Barlett behind the glasses a cheese fan, you're not used to that because he's so He's been so brilliant. It was just that watching the Colts from a different perspective and it wasn't an easy watch. I think they the Colts might have a star on Cory Willis that he's starting for injuries, but he might be hard to take out the lineup. Bobby Yoga Riki's playing well as Mark said, and Grover Still who Chris Collins

were act like he never heard of him. This guy's been playing well ever going back to training camp well and Justin Houston had his best game probably as a colt. And Comico Terrey returned from an injury and played well until he got hurt. Indnico Autrey, who did miss a game or two in the middle, has been their best player on defense. They they have some players, but Marlon Max the guy to me, he's playing behind that great offensive line, but I love the way he runs. He's

very smart about the holes that he picks. Reminds me a little bit of a smaller Frank Or who we learned from. I think I think he got some tips from The Inconvenient Truth. And on the chief side, they're running game could not get it going. Damian Williams average two and a half yards to carry nine for twenty three uh and he was their leading rusher. There was just nothing going on for the for the Chiefs h in any phase of their offense. They just couldn't get

it going. Travis Kelsey was quiet. Four catches on ten targets Byron Pringle couldn't get that first down, and I still have no idea. I need the next tell me how he didn't. It was like he almost ran backwards. I mean, Kansas City's line is not right, and we every week we watch quarterbacks that are not opts. They're not operating the way you want them to or the way they're being paid because their offensive line is creating

total hell in front of them. This happened for a lot of reasons tonight, but Patrick Mahomes was not able to just do this on his own. He's not getting the protection. Chiefs in fine shape. At four and one, you got the Raiders behind you. At three and two, the Chargers are struggling. But I do think the a f C, you know, race for a buy and and number one seed is gonna be going to keep an eye on the whole year. Please. The Chiefs are facing the Patriots. The Chiefs are loaded. One one week isn't

going to change that, but now they're one behind. I'm not worried about the Chiefs long term unless these injuries either continue to pile up or linger because you saw they are human. After all. There's talk that they'll get tyreek Hill back next week to one little thing on the Cults. I don't love that they wound up with no timeouts with eleven plus minutes to go, but they coached the way out of that with the way they played down the stretch. That was like an absolute beat

down fever dream mid fourth quarter. On To lose Andrew Luck and to have the injuries that they've had in the first five weeks of the season, it is remarkable. They're three and two entering the bye. They're even starting to warm the cold heart of Chris Wesley. This entire show is around is about trying to get teams to win over West. At this point, Wait, I I've shown nothing but appreciate kidding. I was originally the Cults, and maybe once more I get it. Without Andrew Luck, it's

it's not the same, all right. You know, we gotta get on the place. Let's go. We gotta go, we gotta do things. So here's the schedule. The heroes. Uh, we leave the studio, we handle various NFL dot Com tasks, We pack up our suitcases, we get on an airplane tomorrow and we head to beautiful London, England for a week of fun and football and we can't wait. We'll have our next show will be Tuesday, We're doing that show from Tottenham Stadium. Excited to check that place out. Friday,

we'll have a Thursday our standard uh preview show. Friday, we'll have our live show from Curtain Clubs sold out. Uh. And you know, scalpers, stay out of it. You know, let's not have any active secondary market. We don't need it. We don't want it. I mean, unless we're making the money off of it. Come to me, don'tly and we can work. We don't want like a Mike tysonario where he got suspended by the NFL. Want and sat and keep you know, keep an eye out on our Twitter.

Maybe we'll get have something else going on so we can meet up with more fans in England before Sunday's action where we'll be at Tottenham Stadium for the big Panthers buckstilt. Okay, we got all we gotta pack. It's not the pack. Everybody got the passport. Yeah, he's got their passport. All right, let's go the bile awesome work and we're gonna get you up to speed on the drop. Dan had the signing off for Quiet Storm, the mailman, the old Boss, everybody behind the glass. We are on to one, Dad,