2019 Week 12 Recap

by the United States Marine Corps. My name is Dan Hansas joined It's a room that just filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey Dan? Mark? Did I promise you I'm waiting a fantastic nug at the top of today's show. I'm not going to get in your way? He might. Uh. The Jets and the Browns you know too, wild card hopefuls? Okay, okay, the tell me the last time our teams both were enjoying three game winning streaks at the same time. What year?

I would say nineteen, exactly right. The Browns won three straight in weeks four through six and eight through ten that year. The Jets won nine straight weeks weeks three through eleven. It has it's been thirty five years. They then went on to play one of the greatest double overtime playoff games ever. Yes, I remember a call by an official that costs the Jets that game. That's not how that game went. I recall a lot of blown calls in the suggests that they'll be meeting each other again,

probably in the playoffs. Um, anyway, so let's enjoy it while we have it. I will attempt to. Certainly, first time it's happened since we've worked together. So that's nice. This is week twelve, Is that right? That's absolutely right? And uh, we got a lot of games to get to. And you know, they say the real season doesn't start until Thanksgiving, so perhaps this is just a glorified exhibition what we watched today, But we're gonna just treat it

with the gravitas it deserves. Nonetheless, Thanksgiving weeks, so maybe this one gets I don't know, like grandfathered in somehow. Maybe. Um, so we're gonna get to all the games, uh, ending with the Sunday night affair between the Niners and Packers, and uh, I don't know. I mean, I feel like, although it's a great moment for us right now, Mark,

we gotta start with Greg's favorite team once again. I did notice Gregg actually kind of smirking during that moment, that nug that you unfilled there for us, shocking realizing that it doesn't really mean anything. It kind of like self satisfied, and they are attempting not to break out into total laughter. That's my resting smirk face. That's how I look. You do have a resting smirk face. All right, let's get into the action. Yes, the Cowboys went to

Gillette Stadium to face the defending world champions. So let us start there with our week twelve recap. Brandy and the gun and I'm in now motions to the loftis. Brady takes his staff cost up, looking about back shoulder faith for Harry Lean dogs caught it, touch it up, beautiful throw, terrific catch for the first career score. Nick kill Harry to find out what the rookie can do. We saw this a Trader camp we saw in the preseason.

He's got the size that there's a back shoulder touch and then it's a strike from the forty two year old to the backside shoulder Blumber fifteen to get in his first touchdown. Doesn't it feel like the best thing for zoll Act to do. I'm just saying, rookie ten years twelve years of just vocal rest because he can't keep going like this. It might be advisable Bob Sochi and the Z man with the call for the Patriots radio network. Yeah, there's the touchdown we got from the Patriots.

But this was another game decided by New England's fierce d which shut down the Cowboys top rated attack thirteen nine win at Gillette Stadium, West, Tom Brady missing several regular UH contributors lived in the Gabbard zone for the second straight week. But Brady in the offense isn't the difference maker on this team right now? Well, he was prescient with his comments last week that we are a defense and special teams kind of team. And I think you can throw coaching in there too. It was clear

which side was better coached than this game. And I don't think I've ever heard Jerry Jones say what he said after a game like he did today. Basically, he said, um, it's very frustrating when some of the football some of the fundamentals of football and coaching were what beat us today. And then he added, with the makeup of this team, I shouldn't be this frustrated, basically saying I gave you the players, they're out there. We are one of the

most talent punted rosters in the NFL. Why are we losing these close games over and over and over again? And to me, that was the Cowboys did not make enough plays into the Patriots credit. They made more plays and and the play that and the sequence that will stand out and what Garret will be ripped to shreds for and the talking head shows tomorrow and throughout the week. Uh, it's a terrible day in New England. It is cold,

it is windy, it is raining. Uh. So you have that to contend with, as well as New England's excellent defense. And at thirteen six, with about six minutes to play, the Pats are facing fourth down and what was it or about fourth and seven seven? Uh, in the red zone. Uh. And they have a decision to make. And you know we so you know Garrett sometimes I try to defend him, but this is exactly the type of stuff which keeps the Cowboys from the next level instead of going for

it and being aggressive and going for the tie. Uh, you kicked the field goal and they did get the ball backs. You could say, yeah, but you could get on him for not going for it there and playing it too safe. But they had the ball with three time outs in two minutes to play. Yes, but you had to go ninety five yards by the time you got the ball back. And again in these conditions against that day, your chances of winning actually went down. And

according to analytics, when you kicked that field goal. I mean, it's the same old stuff over and over again. I'm not surprised that, you know, Jason Garrett, team, you know, falls short in the small margins of things. That wasn't the most you know, egregious, Jason Garrett. You know, decision I've I've ever seen, just because of the conditions. I think you gotta go for it there, because like you said, you have to get the touchdown in the odds on

getting back there aren't great. You hadn't been there the entire game. But there's just a lot of little things. There was a formation didn't expect to talk about this, but just while we're talking, Garrett, a formation that the Patriots through at them two different times during punts that the Cowboys weren't prepared for, and one of the times, uh, they had to get penalized. The other time, you know,

they made a mistake. And the Patriots special teams that Tom Brady talked about has not been a strength this year until the last couple of weeks. But they really won this game with the Matthew Slater, you know, blocked punt. And you've seen the last couple of weeks that their special teams, which year after year is always one of the best groups in the league, is now making plays too.

It was key against the Eagles, key this week. And the weather is so bad that you you do have to give the offenses I think in each of these last two Patriots games a little bit of a break. I don't think the Patriots defense would have held the Cowboys to nine points without the weather, but you could

say that the opposite is true. The Brady and the Patriots would have done We've been lucky where there haven't been a lot of terrible weather football games, but the Patriots have played eight straight quarters in windy, gusty, disruptive weather. My one thought on Jerry Jones and his comments is who has a better inside look and a longer look at a coach in Jason Garrett who is not going to match up ever with the Bill Belichicks of the

world in situational football. This has been an issue with the Cowboys forever, and Jerry Jones is loyal to you. To Jason Garrett infuriates many Cowboys fans. So I get that you gave the players and you got the roster going, but this is a Jerry Jones issue. It's much that you kept around. There was also in this game that tripping call on Travis Frederick that I thought was I

agree with Troy Aikman. I think it was absurd and that affected this one was it was very late in the game, in the fourth quarter, on a key march for the Cowboys. It took away as zeke first down. It set up a third and long, which turned into a fourth and long that the Cowboys didn't convert. It was a killer. I was surprised um that Mike Pereira defended it and thought that it actually because he's been very hard on the officials all year in general, So

I don't think it's because he's some Mike. Mike Pereyra's argument is essentially, an offensive lineman can never pick up his leg to move. That was Mike Pereira's lowest moment. He's very good, in fact, he is he is the best in that role as throw it to the rules and list and Praira will give you concise information and be quick. But in this case, and seriously, should have just fell on the sword, because that was foolish to

say that that was an attempt at a trip. He was, like West was saying, moving his leg mechanically as a blocker must do to stay in front of a pass rush. Like I get it. And it was a big play and the Patriots got super lucky there. But I don't think you know, you at some point you have to look at the fact that they got the ball twelve times, they didn't score touchdown, So why where's the confidence that

they're gonna score touchdown that drive? You know, you get a couple of breaks if you're the Cowboys, a couple of fumbles that that they ended up recovery, and it does it does pain me when wins or games like get marred by the bad calls. But there's also so much else that happened in that game, where that the Cowboys didn't take advantage, or that they caught a little break that you know, I guess I've not saying that costing the game, but we're allowed to say it's an

unsatisfying result. But I I as a as a Patriots fan, I actually thought there was a lot of positives in this game for the Patriots. This is the best team they've beaten all year. They have not faced the toughest edile in the world. To me, they played the Jets, but okay, I mean that was earlier. You know, this is a new that's a new jetto this is the I am lifting our teams up, I'm not. I also thought, you know, they ran the ball. They ran the ball

pretty well in key spots. They got the ball late and that's where again you can fault a lot of things. The Cowboys didn't have to give up uh first downs to the Patriots when they knew the Patriots were going to run at the end of the game. The Patriots also had a couple really well blocked runs early in the It wasn't flashy. It's five for Sony Michelle, but those are the same numbers Ezekiel Elliott had earlier. You had Jacoby Meyers, who's flashed at times make pretty big

plays as your number two receiver. You have nikkil Harry have a touchdown. You have your first round pick, Isaiah win be Key on a lot of these run blacks blocks. He had some trouble with Robert Quinn. But I thought Troy was smart to point out they had two people playing left tackle the last five or six weeks because Marshall Newhouse was so bad. You know, you have a running back shipping the whole time. Now you have the

running backs going out for routes. I actually thought defensively it was as good a team game as they've played all year. Too, that this Patriots team is gonna win ugly, like they can't sweat, you know, having it not look too stylish. I would be officially concerned about Tom Brady's ability to throw to various areas of the field. I just don't think it's going to improve or get better or or last year you know, average regular season in Patriots Land, but they tear it up in the in

January and become this juggernaut. I don't see the pathway right now. But that said, I don't really want to be the guy on record saying New England's in a big slump and they're not gonna get out of it. Mean, it's not his arm strength, though, because I think his arm in this game, at least on a few throws were some of the best throws he made. He throws in this game and last week, and it's it was

windy last week too. But I mean, right, I guess I'm like in terms of just pure arm strength though, like the the deep out that he had to Harry who dropped uh the past and there was a bunch of key drops. The rain and the wind seem to affect the receivers even more than the quarterbacks. Both guys had four or five jobs. Look strong. I mean, he look like he had a strong arm. He's not a deep thrower. I don't think Tom Brady in January ranks

very high on the list of Patriots concerns. The Pats moved to ten and one that puts him the top of the a f C keeps him there. I should say the Ravens a game back, but they do have the tiebreaker. It feels like a three team race in the a f C. It's the Pats, it's the Ravens, it's the Chiefs. And getting that number one seed that's key, that's you know, depending on who you asked. Well, right

now Arko An NBC was talking him up. Stop talking about the Patriots are zeroing in on on a bye and then it becomes a race for the one seed. Right now they have I think so, but the by especially the buy is even more important than the ones. Just getting that third grandfather. Last last thing is I do think Stephan Gilmore deserves Defensive Player of the Year consideration. He's not gonna get stats. But when you shut out Amari Cooper, you have a diving interception, you have a

I mean past defense in the red zone. He's having as good a season as a shutdown cornerback and half. He's got nearly as many passes defense this year as receptions allowed. When Darrell Rivers didn't win, and to I know he won't, but I just like like wins it ever again, agree, let us move up and will watch from thirty three yards Zach Wood and hold his down,

kick his up and it is good. That's good. Will lots his good from thirty three and the New Orleans Saints are gonna win this one, thirty four to thirty one, never a doubt. He loves trauma for me, Zach too much trauma, Buddy. You saw a team that was playing Desker, though many were very very good Zack Strife and Deuce McAllister the Saints Radio network. Yes, will, let's hit some thirty two yards out as time runs out, deciding points and at one win for the Saints over the Panthers

at the super Dome. Let's his mate came minutes after There's kicker Joey Sly a chip shot dial goal of his own that would have given Carolina the lead. With one si to play Kickers Pickers, the Saints moved to nine and two. They remain in the thick of the race for the number one seed in the NFC, and um, yes, a deuce put it well there. Because this game started out as a boat race, a cakewalk, all these things. I don't know what any of these things mean other

than it means it's a blowout. Um especially boat race. Yeah, I have no idea what boat race means. Uh, but fourteen nothing before you blink and you think the Saints are gonna roll to one of those thirty eight to seventeen type wins. But give credit to the Panthers. Uh, give credit to Kyle Allen who bottomed out last week against the Falcons with four interceptions, but really played very well in this game, really well in fact. And when you guys watch this game, you will, I'm sure come

away with the same feeling um. And it's just such a shame because is the Panthers were in trouble, you know, there were five and five. The owner just came out and said, I will not stand for mediocrity. And you kind of needed this win to have a pulse going into the back uh end of your schedule. And your kicker cost you your season essentially, and and that's what it came down to because Sly, you know, he missed two extra points in this game, and and then the

field goal miss. It's remarkable how when you watch it on replay, he's almost right in front of the uprights and he skies it just straight up into the right and and he misses it. And you know that's that's the way it goes. So the Panthers are cooked at five and six, and the Saints it's not a m not a pretty win for them, and there's some things too. Of the last three weeks now, there's some things you could point to, UH and be maybe a little worried about.

The defense certainly had had its issues today against Alan and Christian McCaffrey, who had yet another big game. But let's survived in advance and stack wins because in this loaded NFC, you're gonna have to win thirteen or fourteen games potentially, UH to get that by They seem to really miss Marshaw Lattimore, I mean, d J. Moore had a big game today and Christian McCaffrey. They were down thirty one seventeen, and I'm trying to track these games

on red Zone and everything else. At the same time, he had what I would call almost like an Eric metcaffee and that old, amazing Brown's player and Falcon's receiver of old uh touchdown run that was just you know,

he could not be shut down. I was impressed. And you d and you often sing before our show a song I'm lonely, and it has I don't know where that's coming from all the time from you, but if you would like to really be lonely, well, I mean I get it's actually I'm lonely and then parenthetical, I'm lonely.

I mean, the lyrics are powerful, but be an NFL kicker that misses two p A T s in the field goal, that's he could sing a song about being lonely because you're already on the outskirts of that locker room. Week to week. Typically this is a tough kicker year in general, up and down the league's and all these guys that are struggling badly. Now I want to get to one thing because it is a major subplot in

this season. Uh, instant replay and the review process, and how coaches are obviously confused about what they should even throw the flag for because almost nothing is being changed upon review. Uh. But now we're seeing and an instance happened uh in the Jets Raiders game I watched where they buzzed down after a Jets touchdown and called O p I and called it back and it cost the

Jets four points. And in this game, with the game hanging in the balanced high Game one and the Panthers facing a third down UH deep in Saints territory in the final minutes, they get stopped and they throw the challenge flag. Carolina and on a very tiki tack call. The booth reverses the decision and calls it O p I, giving them a fresh set of downs near the goal line. Now, to the credit of the Saints defense, they got three more stops, so they got six stops from uh inside

the ten yard line. UH and then the sly miss. But again just another example of how confusing it's getting even worse less with Pandora's box here because in addition to them not changing things that seem like they would be changed, now we're getting this other element that's sneaking in from upstairs, coming in and making changes you don't expect.

Let's hear what Sean Payton had to say afterwards. Look, I'm not gonna get into it on the replay relative to the fouls um the change that took place in the off season, but sitting in on every one of those meetings, I don't know that it's exactly what we discussed. You know where we are today with it. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's not. But we we've got to be able to adjust to. So obviously a glaring disconnect

and it's not getting better. Well, it's unacceptable the way Al Rivron has has ruled on this rule this year, it's just not okay. And for him to say afterwards after reviewing it, it was clear and obvious through visual evidence that the defender signal pically hinders the receiver. Clear and obvious is not a fuzzy phrase. It's it's with clarity. It's by definition, with clarity. We have seen so many calls with clarity that we're clear and obvious that the

New York Office has not deemed clear and obvious. So this this rule is it's just a mockery. I would ask, because the same thing happened in the Browns game too, and so suddenly you have a flurry of these happening, and there's about two or three last week, although none of those seemed questionable last week, but yeah, they've popped they've popped up suddenly. The last week. You could throw the flag on the same thing and then there wouldn't

be a call on a similar type of play. It's just there's no consistency, and it seems to be getting but when there are there were three tripping calls today and there were only four prior to this all season, it makes me wonder, and I, you know, we don't. We're not on these phone calls if they even occur. Are there these officials gathered together saying, okay, guys, we've we've got to focus on this rule or this rule.

And some people are a little too duty oriented. And then suddenly they're throwing yellow flags all over the place and call intends changing cops sitting in this be trap at the bottom of a hill, trying to get to his monthly quote exactly when one quick thing before we moved on this game is we have talked about Breeze

his arm strength and that that is a factor. But what we should mention two is the throws he made on a couple of those touchdowns are accurate throws that very Freeze quarterbacks can make, where he just puts it in a window. And then the back shoulder throw he had to Thomas basically to set up the game winning field goal, the timing it took. Thomas didn't turn around until the ball is right there, and you don't need arm strength for that. You need accuracy and timing. And

he had a lot of pretty throws. He's a master in the one minute. He can still do a lot. For as much criticism we're giving him. He's got a lot of strength. Dan, Well, you sing the song because Mark teased it and then you guys didn't sing it, so I feel off balanced. Okay, it goes a little like this. I'm lonely. I'm lonely. Please help me out, Please save my life, Please help me get rich over pending on the mental stand um. One last note. Michael

Thomas has one and four receptions. Thanksgivings on Thursday. Be careful. I would you just sit right there now worth monitoring best for you and your family? Most likely, let's move on here. The more wind to the fallstide, the hand off, straight up up the middle table to the race sift T five. He did touchdowns? See he was shot out of the gun? Were shot Petty from fifty eight yards? I'll take it to the house, and did you kid chip away? Why not blow up the entire stone? And

that's what we're shot Petty? Just in nice job, Steve raybol saw Radio Network. The rare shot out of a gun that's chewing the cannon can mix it up for shot. Petty ran for a career best one nine, including that fifty eight yards score you just heard. To leave the Seahawks to a seventeen nine win over the Eagles, who suffered through yet another miserable day on offense. They are in serious trouble, greg The Seahawks didn't have Jadavian Clowney in this one, but they improved a six and oh

on the road. Life's good on the Seahawks corner. How's your pomo? Uh? It's fine. I get to watch the Seahawks big play offense and they are so different than the Eagles in a game that the defense has did a great job throughout the differences. Russell Wilson only has thirteen completion, but he has two hundred yards. He has a thirty eight yard or to lock at a thirty three to Turner which came on another flee flicker, which

hurt the Eagles. I mean that was the only Seahawks touchdown until that Penny touchdown, so they were struggling to a thirty one to David Moore. You had a twenty one yard played a house stro Penny had that big run in another one. They're explosive, so even on days where you're going up against a really good defense like they will hit you for chunk plays and find a

way to get a win. And if I'm a Seahawks fan, I love that this that the defense has come out of the last couple of weeks playing their best two games of this season. And yes it was against the Eagles who have all sorts of trouble and and the weather was a factor, but I don't care. The Sehawk's defense wasn't stopping anyone for a while, and they've had

two really great performance. You know, Dan, I know your kids and my kids befohen they were younger, were obsessed with garbage trucks, and you know, they'd line up and and on on these l A streets and watch these trucks rumble up and down the road on garbage Day. And if you watch those videos attached to that that they these garbage trucks they rolled up to some center somewhere and they empty all their contents into a gigantic warehouse filled with garbage. That's the NFC East right now.

I mean, it is a junk division at the moment, and it's hard to watch. But the Eagles are dealing with so many injuries today. They did not have Alshan Jeffrey, they don't have Leanne Johnson, they don't have Nelson Agholor. They don't have Jordan Howard, and the offense is a result of this. They already were broken down when those guys were healthy even and then they lose Brandon Brooks, who might be the All Pro tackle, to an illness. So it won't be a long term thing, you wouldn't think.

But he did not play after midway through the second quarter. And their defense, who's they're They're a playoff defense right now. Their defense is peaking. They were flying around today. You know, they really held Seattle, who just felt like they had a million possessions. I mean, if you liked Patriots Eagles last week punt fest, you're gonna love this one because it's a lot of turnovers, it's a lot of punts, and it's a lot of defense. The Eagles have scored

one touchdown in their last twenty five possessions. Carson Wentz turning the ball over today to Carson Wentz can't shoot straight. I mean, he has eleven turnovers and seven touchdowns in his last six weeks and he was so inaccurate today. And yes the weather was bad, but Russell Wilson I thought played great. If it wasn't for four or five

drops his his stats would look a lot better. And Wentz is just I've I've mentioned he's he's not inaccurate, Like as stars go, he's not accurate, and it just seems like with this receiver corp it makes it even worse. This is is the receiving core that they ran out there alongside zach Ertz, j j Arthega white side, greg Ward picked up a lot of first downs. Greg Ward, I would say were the best wide receiver. Former quarterback Mac Hollands Jordan's Matthews two thousand nineteen. Um. Yes, Carson

was essentially is being asked to save the world. But maybe he's not up to right now. Right but when he just there was a couple of plays really early in this game where he had just wide open guys in the flat on third and three and he like threw it ten yards over there, just uh, you know, he there was there was a play to me that kind of it was a fourth and two and he had all day to throw was you know, it was a time where they did do a good job protecting it.

And he kind of goes through his progressions slowly, he gets to the checkdown late he sees Artego white side, how about that? And he throws it to the wrong hand. He throws a fastball from five yards away. When Artego was you know, go into the left and that was all on went So there was a lot of place today they were all on. But to be fair, because I think we were not and we don't really see from the quarterback side that you're practicing almost very little

with any of these guys. How much how many reps does Carson Wentz have with Greg war Jr. I mean, you're you're then suddenly you have in a game situation operate in you know, conjunction with them. Good luck. I would look into greg Ward Senior and see maybe if he's an upgrade on Jordan Matthews. Maybe greg Ward three. You don't know how old I like that. You always

say three instead of the third? Remember when it was er three Like a mental block for me, And it's not it's not not trying to be key k J. Right quotes I've always struggled with. So that's how it comes out of your brain, Like the Robert Griffin the third or Robert Griffin three. Yes, I don't know why

he's doing great. Look into the Cranium, that's one of the brighter right, had one of these quotes that I think it's gonna get a lot of play in Philly all week where he said, we were calling their plays all day, you know, before they ran him, we knew that was coming. They love they love saying that. Well, they're smart guys. Yeah, how may that? Absolutely? By the way, Shakim Griffin, who you know, got all the love in the world obviously for overcoming what he did, but has

mostly been on special teams into this point. They're using him as a situational pass wrest and he's starting to make some plays, which is amazing to see. He had two QB hits today. He didn't get credit for a force fumble, but he blew up a play that was a very key forced fumble. Uh in this game, they

should have given it to him. And on the play which the penalty ended up, you know, calling back his recovery, he picked up the ball with his one arm and ran with it, which is just like, I don't know, watching him be a third down kind of difference maker and coming in on passing downs, it's pretty awesome. Jim Abbot through no hitter once. Yes, his youth. It's a magical moment. A pretty good Indians lineup to west by Erica Bell, Robbie Alamonot, Sandy alamar Jo, five and six Eagles.

Wake up, Erica, can you look up the nineteen Cleveland Indians and let me know Paul Sorrento is on that roster. Might have been with the Mariners at that stage. I'm not sure. All right, let us move on to an a f C game. Second and thirteen. God takes the stamp on to throw and waits fires into the end zone looking first man down there. It is caught, caught

for the touchdown. Caught for the touchdown John Brown. What a throw by Josh Allen over the top of Chris Harris, drops it right into the bread basket of John Brown. Turn this on my headphones. Bring me the Native, No, the natives, bring me the girl. Yes, typically we're Spider Man. I like how we all have different interpretations of what

I know. You're you're into like ancient you know, and we we're cops and Superman and super spider Man's interesting the cartoon version of Spider Man from the early age, the one Little Erie in strange nothing for Greg. Yes, I like it years old topical. Josh Allen threw two touchdown passes, including another scoring hook up with John Brown. Three win over the Broncos. The Bills moved to eight

and three, their best starting twenty three years. And as we talked about Thursday show, this sets them up really well as their schedule tightens up, they have some wiggle room here west Buffalo continues to take advantage of the schedule, which to this point has been pretty inviting. UH. And now they're adding some decisive wins to their ledgers. So

credit to the Bills for that. I said on Thursday that these teams were closer than the record might suggest, and I am pleased to eat oh on that one. The Buffalo Bills gained three hundred more yards than the Denver Broncos today. It was twenty two to nine in first downs. Uh. The Bills had the better scrambling Allen at quarterback by far. Uh. Josh Allen, I think this is his best back to back two games stretch of his career. And you can say the Dolphins, you know,

anybody can put it on them. The Broncos offense is a tomato can sure, no doubt, but their defense is top five since Week three. This was a pretty good performance. It's not a perfect Josh Allen performance, but the athleticism, the like sheer raw ability as a scrambler to get away from these these athletes at defensive end and linebacker is fun to watch. Uh John Brown and Cool Beasley have been great free agent signings. This team has a

lot one for. They have a two game lead for for the number five seed with five games left to play. But as Mark pointed out on our Sky Sports hit, their schedule is at Dallas versus the Ravens, at Pittsburgh, at New England, and then hosting the white hot New York Jets in the season finale, who will have been riding a seven game that will have playoff and implications,

maybe even divisional. If you're a Bills fan, though, you have to feel great because we we were hard on them early in the season, because we say, you know, beating bad teams convincingly is a sign that you're good. The way that they were winning was not a sign that they were gonna go far. These last two weeks have been amazing, and then it's what's going on underneath all of that. They haven't had much of a pass rush for much of this season, but the last couple

of weeks at Oliver wakes up, he's playing great. He's making some noise. Uh, you get a pass rush on Brandon Allen, and then Matt Milana, who I thought was a really key player for them a year ago and was really a shell of them his former self for much of this season, has also started playing really well. So sometimes with injuries, it just it takes a while to recover from something that's serious. But when he's playing this well, him and Edmonds are as fast as a

linebacker duo as there is. There was one other interesting note from the bills all offense today. They went no huddle more frequently than they have in five years, and they ran seventy three plays, their most all season. So they are trying something new with the up tempo offense and it suited them well. When we've seen Denver's offense in recent weeks start to show us something interesting about the future, it's because Courtland sudden And and Noah Funt

both were operating pretty well. Four catches today for a combined forty one yards. Tradeaus White has a lot to do that. He's been awesome. He's right there on the All Pro list behind Stephon Gilmore. It's running for two hundred and forty four yards on Denver's defense. Congratulations, John Elway, you have crafted a roster at this point with zero identity. I thought I used to be alone on this island, and now everyone's on the island. I love it. I

want I want condos, I want high rises. Everybody going against the John Elway Empire realizing the Emperor has no close and they want a Super Bowl, but he did do that for them. I thought you were going to

say congratulations to the inconvenient too. Frank Gar fifteen for sixty five and becomes the number three all time leading rusher, And just because people are jerks on the internet, immediate last up, people be like, well, of course he's not in the same league of Barry Sanders, is you know, He's just like no kitty, Like, no one is gonna say that he is a superior running back on a play to tape play basis, of course not. But what he's done and what he's been special at throughout his

career is the reason he got to number three. Teams keep employing him because he's a value add into not just what he brings, you know behind the scenes. But because he can turn two yards into four, because he can pass, protect, because he's good in the receiving game, because he's better than your backup running back. The way that he's lasted this long is incredible. I want to know more about what he's doing behind the scenes. He's

he's an all time leader. When the doesn't share everything, he knows when the nuclear holocaust comes, is gonna be cockroaches climbing out, and then five minutes later Frank Gore running for four yards behind him with a little notebook he knows telling everyone about him. I had I had several snarky replies in my but I'm just gonna let it go. Greg. It's a great achieve. Mean, it's not

on me. I mean, it's just that says more about you. Sulations. Oh, we have an update, breaking news, all right, West Mark Greg Paul Sorrento played for the Minnesota Twins one the Cleveland Indians two to ninety five, then he went to Seattle ninety six and ninety seven. That closed it out

with the expansion Devil rays. So what did that? Even so West was correct, the listener has forgotten by now whatever you were we were talking west West been correct, we would not have even done a breaking news trip there, but that was important. I'm not allowed to follow it up, all right? Was it good to know the information? I'm glad you buzzed in't, but I don't think I have that authority. Drew Locke is coming in for Brandon all On.

He should wait. I have a Charlie Whitehurst note. Wow, Brandon Allen is the first Quarty quarterbacks since Charlie white Hurst five years ago to attempt twenty five passes and throw for eighty two yards. Are fewer in a game. Following in the footsteps of clipboard Jesus, Mr Jewel right next to the Frank Gore Barry Sanders. Note fault comes that I mean of of high intrigue Gore Sorrento clipboard Jesus, board Jesus. Let's move on Donald Sack to throw off

play action looks right, throws up the right scene. Didn't stride at the forty yard line. He's got burials. He gets loose? What sidelo forty not the thirty? The twenty looking for the pylon. Pushed out Braxton burials all the way down to the one yard line. Like a lightning, he shot up the right scene and Sam Donald found him with a side on throw sixty nine yards so the most unlikely target on the field, Braxton Burials. Bob was choosing for the with the call Jets Radio Network,

whoa thirty four is wild? Sam Darnath, through two touchdown passes, ran for another score, leading the resurgent New York Jets to an impressive thirty four three victory over the Raiders on Sunday. It's their first three game winning streaking over two years. West Why is thirty four wild? Because they've done it three straight weeks. They've scored thirty four points

exactly each of the last three weeks, all victories. And uh, I am not going to get too excited about the Jets going into the wild because you know what, You're right. I'm just gonna enjoy this while at last, because you have in the next two weeks. And I am, I am. My eyes are wide open. I've been a Jets fan for too long to look past anybody. Success never sits

well with this organization. Uh, no matter, Um, you know what the stakes are because a three game winning streak that gets you to four and seven is not something you can get too overly amped up about. But you have at Cincinnati next week, the worst team in football, and then your home against the Dolphins. The Dolphins are one of the worst teams of football. You're in your building, you should get to six and seven, and we've been talking about it that nine and seven keeps you in

the mix uh to potentially get a playoffs. But now they have a tiebreaker over the Raiders, so that those are the things that you could spend to be excited about with the Jets. Um. When I walked in the building this morning, I was definitely not expecting Jets playoff talk. And I didn't start it. Mike Tariko started it. That's what really got my mind cooking. He brought them up several times. I like to do it later because she she's all in on it anyway. So it was an

absolute beating. I mean, the Raiders who cannot simply and a few teams are, but the Raiders certainly cannot look past anyone. And that's how this game felt. Because the Raiders have a big division showdown at our ohead against the Chiefs next week, but they first they had to travel east and and play the Jets, and from the kickoff, you know, the the Raiders get three points to start the game. But then it was all Jets for about

fifty seven straight minutes. How bad did it get? Derek Carry ganked from the game in the third quarter, Josh Jacob same thing, sit down and John Gruden waves the white flag. He knew his team had nothing, zilch, and they just said let's live for another day. I didn't think it was a great look by the way. I know, it didn't really matter. And Greg you were saying, maybe, you know, teams should do this more. Teams winning and losing done to it a little more. I don't have

the message of it all. When you saw a couple of touchdowns in the NFL that could happen quickly and all of a sudden, there could be a pulse. You're playing the Jets, who specialized in that for fifty years. But I was I welcomed it because the game at that point was over. Mike Lennon enters action. Uh So, anyway, the Raiders no show against the Jets, and it's a reminder that as good as the Raiders aren't home this

year and they're genuinely frisky and fun. Uh that if you get them on the road, you can get a very mediocre team, and the Jets made him look worse than that. They're just a team that to me, if you get the game you got today from Josh Jacobs, there's just not enough else on this Raiders roster to to hang your hat on. And we talked about this being you know, it has been a rough year for Adam Gates, but this was the win I pointed to and said, you want to change people's perceptions and change

the energy, it would be this. And it's a thumping And yes you can talk about the thirty four points. You know, three weeks in a row. The Jets defense has been awesome the past couple of weeks. And Gruden's comments after this game where as strong as I've seen all season. He was seriously piste off. Well, I know everybody's obligated to just fall head over heels with the

Raiders and never question anything. But this is a team with a six and five record and a point differential that is worse than the Falcons, worse than the Broncos, worse than the Lions. Yeah, they're they're just to me, they're not a playoff team. Well, we'll we'll see, and because of the schedule, I don't think they will be either.

I would be concerned about the line, And then you watch this game closer, I would say what they can hang their hat on for the first eight nine weeks of the season was their offensive line was maybe the best league and they got worked last week against the Bengals. I mean they were dominated and which was shocking to watch. And then the week before was one of their lowest games of the season in terms of yards for play against the Charges. They did not top three yards in

that game. And then you scored three points against the Jets. So what was making this team good was the line and their efficient offense and that really that's a three week trend and that's a concern with the Chiefs coming up next. You made the point that the Jets are playing very well on defense. Mark they have and probably people aren't really plugged in on this, that Jets have the best run defense in the National Football League UH this season, and Josh Jacobs was the latest guy UH

to run into a wholly at about thirty yards before exiting. UM. So we'll see. Rick Williams is the perfect coordinator for a team without a ton of town on. Yeah, he's like, you don't want to have a team that doesn't have a ton of talent, but if you do, I think Greg Williams I wonder if he's one and done regardless, just because this is the track record and you hear things that things behind the scenes aren't very smooth as usual with Greg Williams and uh what's going on over there.

But I think he's done a very good job this year, and and the Jets offense now starting to come around. This is kind of who we thought they were, which is a team that could be maybe around a five hundred team that could play teams at their level closely wins some of these games. Uh, So progress now for the Jets who really needed it, and Sam Donald, who's

playing very well. Every good game by Sam Donald matters a lot, especially how bad it was for that stretch there, the Ghost game with the Patriots, the Jaguars game, the Dolphins lost. So I've been really impressed by how strong he's been. I don't think he's had an interception uh in a three straight games now, so uh, definitely progress all right, now, before we move on, let's take a quick kind of pause. Here, we have a listener who has a little brother who, um, was in a video

that went viral on social media. Um. We talk about Greg's color blindness on this show a lot, but in this case, in this video, and we and if you're watching this our show, our video show right now, you could you could see this, but you can also check it out online of a of a kid using glasses to be able to seek in color for the first time and he gets emotional and it's awesome. And it turns out his older brother who posted that on Twitter,

is a big fan of the show. Mark, and I know you were moved by it enough that you reached out to the brother and uh you wanted to share. Yeah, his brother is his name's name is Ben Jones. And we'll give you some information so you can go look

at this on your on your own after this. But UM, I mean some of us in here are Dad's West had a bunch of brothers, older brothers, younger brothers, and you just watched to me, I watched this thing at home last week and it blew me up because it's not just let's just watch it and we can talk about it after we're all yours, all yours does so

what do you think that? So here's a here's a look at a follow up tweet that you can find, and we'll tweet this out to the go fund me page that this boy's mom, Carol Walter Jones started, And it's worth noting that that principle who brought him those glasses also has dealt with severe color blind issues his entire life. So to me, I just saw this thing and it's like wow. I mean, I having my own

kids that have their ups and downs. They this girl fund me page is already raised over only four dollars. The glasses are about three dollars each, and this company that creates them in Chroma dot Com is apparently going to match uh give away a pair of glasses for everyone that's funded. So if anyone, we've got awesome listeners who have helped with a lot of things before. If this hit you the way it hit me, help out, that's awesome. Glad to help however, weekend and we'll get

you a pair to Greg. I don't think they. I think Greg is a a different level you could try. I saw a video like that a couple of years ago where was an older gentleman, and after like sixty five years, he got a pair of glasses. And you're just struck by the instant emotion that like your life has changed. From there on out, nothing will ever be the thing awesome. And UH to that boy's brother, thanks for listening, buddy, and we're happy to help. Hower weekend.

Let us move on, Hell and Company start at their own Henry forty, Henry fifties, Henry fipp hard board five Titan, Yes you do, Henry seventy boarder yards, Peter Oh, Yes, take some of that. You gotta love Dave McGinnis there in the background with Mike Keith just laughing sometimes, just gotta laugh. Derrick Henry is good at Russian the football. The Titans scored four touchdowns over six offensive plays in

the third quarter. That's seventy four yard run. Uh, just one of them, a forty two to twenty beat down of the Jaguars. That's two straight wins for the Titans who stay in the mix, Uh for a wild card spot. Mark, do you believe wild card division even there in the mix? What do you think, Mark? I do because I think the one thing one of the more underrated or less not talked about enough units in the NFL is Tennessee's defense.

Let's start right there. A lot of this this twenty points by Jacksonville, A lot of it happened in what and I know, we don't know, no one knows what garbage time is anymore. But it happened with the game well out of the entire second half of the offense. By the time they got the ball, it was over

right in the second it was absolutely over. I mean, the twenty eight points the Tennessee scored in that rapid fire succession, that explosive third quarter was the most they've put up since they were the Houston oilersainst the Cleveland Browns team in a November day. And it is concerning to me when we can preview these games and how often we preview them, and we got them totally wrong.

But we diagrammed without anyone really questioning it that Derrick Henry was probably gonna do what he's done against the Jaguars again, and it was like they Jaguars know this is coming. They can't stop him at all. Two hundred and nineteen yards on the ground by the Titans today, and this comes after last week the Jaguars gave up two hundred and sixty four yards and before the by in London, two hundred sixty on the ground. This team

is done. This team that used to be based around there defense simply cannot stop anyone on the line right now. They cannot overpower anyone. And it's it's easy to lean on the Nick Foles Gardner Minshew part of it, because I will say the offense in Jacksonville, and I'm not just blaming Nick Foles, has zero energy. It's all dried up. The deep passes, the daring do the late game heroics

are all gone. And so it's probably just that Nick Foles is coming at the wrong time because you're suddenly in games where you're getting beaten down on defense and there's not enough from Nick Foles or the offense to make up for it. If the Titans played the Jaguars every week, they'd be the Larry Zonka nineteen seventies Dolphins. Didn't they lose to the Jaguars A crazy yeah, the Titans,

But that's beside the point. Over the last few years, the Titans have been unbelievable against the Jaguars, and it would be nice if to see nick Foles play. But but it doesn't. It does wouldn't matter. There's there's no way Gardner Minshew is by the way that they've been blown out three straight weeks and it hasn't remotely been closed. One of those weeks was with Mintu. Two of those

weeks now are with falls. If you're a defense that's giving up touchdowns on four straight possessions, none of which went over four plays, like you're not You're not winning

that game. The Jaggers are not built. I don't care if Minshew is in there or not, like they're not built to win these And one of the note I would mention is that Ryan Tannehill has I think bought himself serious consideration for starting work, whether it's with Tennessee or another team next season, because he just as we talk about nick Foles coming in in the offense, nose diving Tennessee has become an attack that you can count

on for a couple of big plays a game. An Tannehill I think has won over the entire locker room with his ability to scramble, his mobility and just throw his body fearlessly into defenders like he did on a touchdown today is this is this like a Ryan Tannehill where he's changing and becoming something that he wasn't before. I don't know if I buy that. He just it's

really well into this offense. Right. I was gonna say everything you said is right, and I agree with everything you said, but I would still if I were a team shopping for a quarterback. If we're talking about Andy, I gotta go anywhere. He's gonna be the Titan plant. He'll get the franchise tech right, He'll be on the Titans, and what they do around him will be will depend not an achievement that would be if he gets the friends. What would that make him a twenty three million dollar

quarterback or whatever it is? That from a guy that lost the starting job and entered the season as a backup to be playing on a one year twenty three million just throwing that number out there, or they'll figure out like a two year deal where it's it's frontloaded. I just would be surprised if he's not one of their options. Now, that doesn't mean they're not gonna have a high draft pick. It doesn't mean they don't look for other potential options. You would almost expect them to

draft someone too. But you know he's helped himself. I mean, he's bringing them back to nine and seven, just like we've been joking about all year, even when they were a couple of games under five, they found their way and in they they are the team. I think if you're looking like if you're the Bronx, the Browns or or the Jets and you're hoping everyone falls flat, it just feels like the Titans are going to find a way to win enough games that at least get to

that nine number. Uh. The franchise tender for quarterback is a shade under twenty five million dollars. Good money if you can get it. Um, it will be interesting to see how they handle the situation at at quarterback now for the rest of the season. It's a lost season, So what what do you do? If you're the Jaguars, it would seem unfair to put Folds back on the bench. Um. But I also get the temptation. Maybe I think if

the officially eliminated, maybe they do. Don't you think it's already unfair that min shoes on the bench, But but I think they were quarterback to me that had this team was playing well above is. I get it. They've been They've been blown out three straight weeks. Their offensive line is bad. This if they continue to lose like this, I mean, they've been the worst team in the league or one of them for the last three games that

They've played three straight convincing blowout losses. If it can continue as even remotely along this path, Shan Khan's gonna be thinking about firing everyone. Tom Coughlin, David called Well and Doug Moron. That's just a fact, right, I mean, why hasn't he thought that the last few years? Because he because he's because they made the NFC Championship Game

less than twenty four months ago. That's why my thought as the game was spinning out of control when they scored fourteen points in sixteen seconds or whatever it was. Um he gone, I think Marone for starters. It feels like the end of it just feels like I I have no problem with them sticking with Marone in the whole crew. Before this year, you also added Nick Foles thinking everything might change, and then this whole Gardner Minshe thing happened and put you in a really weird position

with this quarterback. You paid a king's ransom too. All right, it is now time for Road to Victory, presented by the United States Marine Car. I don't know why I'm talking like Oprah. I like it. You get a touchdown, thirty tucks the man at the twenty ten touchdock, Pittsburgh Law seventy three yards, Tounchers to Washington. Oh, that was a beautiful pulse powder. That was a beautiful step far Siler tells the best stefarm since Rance McDonald. Tampa Batty

was a not buddy. Seventy nine yards. Can make correction, he kocked him down. Tounch touch he's having fun. Yeah, it was touching like a party before the game. Tounch punch, Bill Hill Grove and touch Ilkin. Bill grow of the Steelers Radio Network, Devlin Duck Hodges took over for Mason Rudolph, who was bumbling again, and Duck throws a seventy nine yard touchdown past lifts the injury diminished Steelers to a

sixteen ten win over the Bungles. The Bungle who moved into the driver's seat for the number one overall pick on Sunday. They're a good position for that. They have now set franchise records for their worst start and the longest losing streak with their latest set setback West, that hack is still on the roof somewhere in Cincinnati. Um, anyway, life is short. Carpet d M. Come down from the roof. It's not worth waiting till the Bengals win a game.

Come on, check your retweets though, See how well this might be more interesting or more like living than whatever he was doing before that? He said, he's board silly? Okay, what's he doing on the ground? Is he? I mean, let's just be honest. You're stuck on like a ten ft by two ft piece of metal railing. How fun. Well, at least they got his hopes up for a little while. West, You wanted duck, You pleaded for duck. You got you

duck duck season s z N capitalized this here. Within his first two pass attempts, he had more yards than Mason Rudolph had on six team pass attempts. At one point, Mason Rudolph had thrown five interceptions in his last twenty eight passes. And like guy said, it isn't even about results. It's about a style of quarterback play in which he doesn't release the ball until a body part is in his way. And you saw that on his interception in the red zone. He found his way into high traffic

and let go of the ball with a deflection. And you know we've seen three times now Duck Hodges has provided a spark. That's not to say he's gonna be the answer. Not every spark ignites a fire. You know, sometimes we start a fire without a spark. Though that's true. I don't think this guy was sitting on the bench

behind Mason Rudolph, So how good can he be? I don't know, but to me, you need if your Pittsburgh, your defense is good enough, you need a quarterback, not necessarily to win the game, just not to lose it. And maybe Duck Hodges can be that guy. Oh, we've got breaking news here the NFL media news room. Chris Westling has now hurt Mason Rudolph worse than Miles Garrett

did offseason. I mean, for for Mason Rudolph, I hope he a lot of success, is a third string quarterback and ultimately becomes a coach and it is very happy the rest of his life. But we don't need to see him ever play quarterback again. I'm sorry, he can't, and the Steelers no, buy now, they can bench him and go with Hodges because they know he's never going to be the quarterback of the future. He's proven it. That's not a style of quarterback play that will ever last.

I think it had to do with the draft pedigree and with with you know, the early first training camp that Mason Rudolph had there was a lot of people singing about his arm and all this other stuff. I don't think it's the worst thing for Pittsburgh in general to not have Mason Rudolph uh dealing with the Cleveland Browns mere days from now. Either yeah, well, it should be pointing out he's playing without or the Steelers played

today without Smith Schuster and James Conner. This is one of the worst three or four offenses in the league. With those guys on the field, they they they could have easily lost this game. And I'm not saying that's does that takes anything away from what Rudolph did. I'm just giving the Steelers fans probably don't love what this looked like. I mean, you're you got Benny Snell and

White juniors. Good Karat White played. Can you just picked up I'm just saying, like getting to win in any way that you can get a win, I'm not gonna should not have been close. It should not have been close. The Steelers defense dominated that. You know, Joe Mixon played well and Tyler Boyd had some individual brilliant plays, but you know t J. Watt had another great game and Cameron Hayward, bud dupri Miga Fitzpatrick had his eighth takeaway

of the season. This is this is a good defense Steelers. Browns too now might might have Duck Hodges that quarterback. You would you would assume it will. And it's a big game in the a FC. But you know, they talk about that had not having been a rivalry since the Browns came back because of what's happened in the past, you know, seven or eight days in our lifetime. It is a rivalry right now as much as it's been

and I can remember in thirty years. Uh. And one more note on Rudolph who had a really bad week, um the embarrassing incident obviously against the Browns. He gets benched to day and then it comes out that um Myles Garrett uh said that he heard Mason Rudolph use a slur in his uh direction, And Rudolph came out after the game today and shot that down. He said, I, you know, I would not I think any human would be in one day when your integrity is attacked and

something said about you. That's totally untrue. And I couldn't believe it. And I couldn't believe that he would go that route after the fact. But it is what it is. Uh, who knows, We don't know, We'll never know, probably, but just another ugly chapter two, like kind of a hideous story all around, all right, let us Oh and that was the Road to Victory presented by the United States

Marine Corps. Speaking takes, the play actually picked the shop, looking looking going down the field, there's back up, okare got it? Touch down? Oh b J right in frontible dot. Good job run by the defender by Odell and he beat beyond defenser back Nick Feedom and boy, you looked up into a tough son. That might have been the topless park Jim Donovan and Doug Deacon with the call Brown's Radio Network. Baker Mayfield of Odell Beckham, see it

can work? May Felt through Mayfield through how many touchhop has this for three touchdown passes to Jarvis Landry one to Beckham. The Browns three straight wins, as I said at the top of the show, forty four over the Dolphins, who are back to being terrible apparently Greg excuse me, Mark, in their first game since losing Myles Garrett. Uh, Cleveland

looked just fine. They did. And I get that it's the Dolphins with all you know, disclaimers ahead of time, but uh, this is you could say this is the game in the offense that Browns fans thought they were gonna get months ago, and what they've waited for where the parts. Uh, We're too much for Miami to deal with, and it has a lot to do. I think with Kareem hunts emergence in this offense that he's been used well and there he hasn't diminished Nick Chubb, and who

who is an absolute I feel like Nick Chubb. Maybe I'm more fascinated with him than others are, but well, I see multiple see little flashes of it, and I certain Browns fans of a certain age would disagree with that, But I just think he doesn't quite get enough attention at this point for what he does so consistently on a week to week basis, but they're getting super consistent, awesome play from Jarvis Landry, who is you know, and I think he was limited in that Dolphins offense makes

some incredible adjustments on the fly when Baker Mayfield isn't exactly hitting him right on. Baker had one bad pick where he kind of misfired to Odell Beckham, but in general they were. It was as dominant a first half as they've had. He was sixteen of eighteen Baker Mayfield for a hundred and ninety eight yards with eleven yards per throw. Everyone got involved and the defense, you know, without Myles Garrett, without Larry Ogunjobi, without Morgan Burnett's safety,

they were dominant. Joe Schobert four picks in two weeks has been a playmaker. Another guy that I just think that because he's at a position that he's not certain, he's not he doesn't play like certain linebackers and he doesn't get some of the splash plays. Maybe also doesn't get enough attention. But impressive win. You couldn't have asked for anymore they got. They went to sleep a little bit in the third quarter and let Miami come back into it. But the Dolphins have a leading rusher today

it's Ryan Fitzpatrick. They have no ground game and they need to be able to for them to do what they were doing when they were frisky. They've never they have no they have nothing happening on either line, but they just can't impose the will, and the ground game killed them and put them in third and long over and over in this eight jub was one of only three people on them making the Leap Series this year, along with Lamar Jackson. I'm gonna retire that thing after these.

He's right now, Yeah, I think you nailed that correct. I'm saying Nick Chubb is third in the league right now in yards from scrimmage, only McCaffrey and Dalvin Cook who are way ahead of him. To be fair, but he has past four net and he is third in the NFL and yards from scrimmage. I have friends from Tybee, which is deep Georgia Bulldog's territory, who think that Nick Chubb is a rare human being when it comes to like intestinal fortitude, toughness, overcoming long odds, coming back from

serious injuries, and just being a leader. I they talk about him like he never brags about himself. He never talks about himself. He doesn't celebrate after touchdowns. He's not with twelve other people taking selfies, you know and all this other business. It's like, no, but how many times has been on the cover of Madden. Well, there's a Browns running back that has bragging rights. The problem is I think from well that it's true and Peyton Hillis

can take that to uh any place he travels. I mean that that is a playoff game next week for them and the Steelers. And I know the nfls tried to bury it with like the CBS D team or whatever instead of having it, you know, as the solo for twenty five game. But they win that. Then you got the Bengals that the next after that, and you're you're thinking you could beat a seven and six, but

you lose it and the and the season's over. If nothing else, Steelers and Jets, I mean, the Browns and Jets are given you December football, Well all right, the Browns are definitely giving you one December game that matters and then they have to earn more after Jets are given us January football. If the Jets and Browns play relevant December football, well there's Christmas. Next game is in December. It's crazy. Yeah, all right, let's move up from the

one in motion Godwin. Here's the snow so the left side. It is a fought ball touchdown Champa Bay, Chris Godwin. It's been the Chris Godwin Show today in Atlanta. Two touchdowns for Big Chris. It's really just a quick throw and catch. You can throw it by Jamis god Wins the guy in motion and he just runs into the flat immediately and god Win great catch follows thrown behind him. He's able to reach out grant it with one hand

before getting hit. It's a tremendous catch. Jean decker Off great boy day more with the call of the Bucks Radio Network. Good Jamis Wilson has returned the Bucks quarterback through three touchdown passes to to Chris Godwin, leading Tampa Bay out of the NFC South Seller two pounding of the Falcons. Who might still stink after all? Greg Page four eighty three, Section A Clause Z of the lock manifesto,

never lock up an objectively bad team. Rod riding a winning streak of less than three games, I would say when number one rule would be in the manifesto would be there should be no rules to any manifesto. That's just putting yourself in a corner. I was set up to talk about the game where I mean, I mean, you know that sounds like something Simmons. I'd have warned you and it and I because I've done, I've made the mistaken one time of going off the Seahawks lock

to this. Don't mess with Greg when he's hurting like this, right, it's tough. When my Falcons go down, Uh injured, The impossible dream is over. They're not getting to nine and seven and uh. That that one yard catch it was almost understated because I don't think they had seen the replays yet. It was so typical of what Godwin did today. That was No, you can't tell if the ball is behind him on the on the one on the one

yard line. He has half a second to turn around and catch it with the ball going against his body with one hand and then bring it in with a cornerback all over him. He made plays like that all day. I think it was right there with the best performances any wide receivers had in the NFL this season. Seven seven for one, eight four and two and some of the catches are just beautiful. Him and Mike Evans are over eleven hundred yards for the season right now, and

god when adding two more touchdowns. He to me is my favorite type of wide receiver to watch, where he can make great plays after the Catchy reminds me a little Van Kuan Bolden certainly, not the physicality, but the way he can come down with bad Jamis Winston passes, and there were plenty. He had to first quarter interceptions before playing really well. The rest of the way is just amazing. I mean, he he makes it worth watching the Bucks. Why did they refuse to in Tampa Bay

find one running back and stick with it. Why why is Ronald Jones always splitting carry's fifty fifty? Maybe I shouldn't care about this, but it's like fantasy heads seemed to be had their hair on fire left and right about it. It just find I find it's is it an arians thing? It wasn't in Arizona. The best guess Peyton Barber is beloved and seems extremely coachable and has the fundamentals down so you don't have to worry about him maybe running the wrong route or being in a

bad place for past protection. But Ronald Jones is so superior as a runner, Joe. This is one of the teams that struggles to gain one yard more than any team in the NFL, and Peyton, Peyton Barber does that. Jones was fine. But Winston, you know, played one of his best games. It's like he knows what to attack with this, with this Falcons defense, with his pretty throws are pretty. I mean the seventy one yard throw to Godwin was as good a throw as any quarterback. No, no,

not at all. He threw two first quarter interceptions and there four and seven, and he's like leading the He seems to get hot the minute the Bucks are deeply out of contention. Jack Barrett also had one of the best games, and he's had a few of them that any pass Restaurants had all season. Only one sack, but another quarterback hit five, No, five quarterback hits five more hurries. He forced three penalties on Jake Matthews that ended drives.

That one of the reasons why the Falcon struggled and had these slow drives is because Jake Matthews could not stop Shack Barrett, who also had a force fumble in this game. I mean, he dominated talk about a guy getting the franchise tag. I feel like a pass rush that leads to a hold you should get credit with, like a quartersack. Yeah, they had out half sacks and that's silly in a way. They had sixteen passes defense and thirteen quarterback hits. I've never seen such a statue.

Did it feels medical producing? How where is the current state of your fandom when it comes to the Falcons? Well, I think they're done. I think it's over now. You had him playing January football. I was surprised. It wasn't surprised that when Julio Jones is only on the field for half the snaps that they moved the ball slowly. The defense, though, didn't show up. I mean they protect. When you protect Jamis Winston, he's pretty great, and they

did not sniff Jamis Winston throughout the day. I think they had almost had a Gholston one quarterback hit on the entire day, whereas the Bucks had thirteen. It takes a lot of juice out of Thanksgiving Nights Saints at Falcons game, not to mention Bears at Lions to start off, though, couldn't you see the Falcons winning that game, even though it doesn't really matter. Really, they just won in New Orleans. To run the ball they can just to be invested

in right they were. They started a guy named Quadri Allis in at running back eight for twenty. They're running backs at seventeen carries for thirty four yards. So it's Ryan trying to throw timing routes to Russell Gauge and Calvin Ridley. And it wasn't quite enough. Your enthusiasm cost me my lock streak of sixth straight. Wow. But that that speaks to the power of the enthusiasm you had. It was so real. I'll never forget that. You know,

eight days stretch Lock Manifesto number two. Never listen to what anyone else is saying in this room. We don't know anything, especially not me. Right there you were, you were on board with marknifesto. Take ownership of your pathetic loss. Never bet on the falcons. That was that felt like about seven hours that recap. Next game, talk about a

pressure come, it's a buzz up, scooped up. But Nick Williams inside the five yard line puff of New York Giants, Kellyl Matt heard from bring him down and the strip his first fumble and the Bears are in business. Jeff Joni. Is that a backhanded complin or just a little shade at cleil Mack? Heard from clil Mack, who didn't even have a tackle last week on Sunday Night football. Uh. He set up a touchdown today with a strip sack Allen Robinson season high thirty one yards receiving, and the

Bears beat the moribund Juma nineteen fourteen, nineteen fourteen. If ever a game was destined to finish nineteen fourteen, this was the game, the matchup at its core nineteen fourteen, in nineteen fourteen, forevermore. Let's move on, so dumb, so boring, two bad teams just slugging it out over three and a half mostly terrible hours of football. Um so yes, Khalil mac makes an impact play. Mitchell Trobinsky not perfect, but at least showed some signs of life, he said,

a season high and passing yards he even west. And this is something of all the confounding things about this bare season, that Mitch Robinsky not the most gifted passer, but when you were trying to build him up as a guy, oh, he could be a franchise guy. He was great with his legs, and he stopped running this year as his confidence went to hell. Well, he actually made some plays with his legs scored a touchdown on the ground as well. Uh, so there's there's progress there.

But still, you know, well, I think he didn't want to get hit for a while when Queen, he's playing with the shoulder injury. He didn't want to get hit, so he was less. And you saw it even last week on that option play where he held onto the ball way too long or I mean he gave it. He he flipped it way too early. Um, But I do think he's a good scrambler when when he's healthy and willing to do it, to do more of it. The Giants, meanwhile, or two and nine. That's seven straight

losses they've clinched, the third losing season in a row. Um. The game actually was a five point game with four minutes to play. Golden Tate had a twenty three yard touchdown catching fourth and eighteen, but that that was it. So I don't know what else to tell you, guys, other than the Bears won but are still not very good and the Giants lost and they are you know, gonna have a top five pick in the draft, and we'll see what they do with it. Right now, the

number two, they are number two? What draft a good defensive tackle with that pick. It is crazy that they are one of the worst franchises in football, you know, for a solid run here now over a three year period, they're they're there with with the Bengals and in those type of teams. I keep searching high and low every week for like something to hang your hat on for next season with this Giants team and doesn't show up. What about Well, I mean Jones, I think has shown

enough that you're excited to see what. Excited would not be the right word for how Daniel Jones has played over the last two months. Tagon Barkley at another quiet game as well. All right, let's move on. Hopkins is ready from from thirty nine yards on a thirty nine yard field goal for the lead. The ball is and Hopkins deliverers. Hopkins deliverers from thirty nine yards out to give the Redskins the nineteen sixteen lead. Was sixteen seconds to go. Uh that was Larry Michael of the Redskins

Radio network. Dustin Hopkins hit the go ahead field goal sixteen seconds to play. Minutes later, Quentin Dunbar followed with a game stilling interception nineteen sixteen Redskins over the flat lining Lions. Who you know, don't worry America, They're all yours on Thanksgiving? Greg, what did you learn tradition? Well, have you thought the Bucks Falcons recap was long? Wait till the seven and a half minute soliloquily, I've got about Jeff Drizzy and both Scarborough going up and down

the field. Oh lower, they robbed. They had a lot more yards than the Redskins, but they lost the game. That's the South football is. Sometimes you give up a kick return touchdown, Matt Trader misses a couple of field goals, and suddenly you've set up Dwayne Haskins uh to have his best two drives of the game to his credit in the fourth quarter in a row to set up back to back field goals, and Uh, it felt like

a weight off of his back. He was very excited to win this game and just so excited he took a selfie, you know, with two seconds left and they have to have case Keenum, you know, kneeled down. I was talking about the quarter over that it marked my words it's over. That's the only thing you'll remember about

this guy. That is ridiculous. That is Ricky's absurd selfe in his in his defense, in his defense, the Lions took over in a game that was you know, all but over with eight seconds to go, and uh yeah, then he and they had one play and Jeff Drisco through an interception on that play, which he which he did a lot at the end of this game, and so there was only there's still two seconds left, and yeah,

they couldn't get Haskins. I mean, come on, I'm more interested that he made some big plays when it is an embarrassment. I'm sorry, and it's it doesn't mean that this victory is not a nice moment in his career. And it's nice to see Washington give their home fans something to cheer about. But that's a disgrace. It's also the topic of right, I feel like that's funny. That's saying more about us that that's like that it's not it's it's come on, that's just it's funny. It's funny.

Cloud that need needs more guidance. It just can't happen. And I'm like, this isn't some hot take on FS one in the morning. It's just just keeping it real here. That's, you know, a bad organization and something bad happening at the end of otherwise happy ending to a game. Terrible. Well, yeah, terrible. It's a ridiculous thing for him to do. But it is a situation, mark my words, he'll never have I'm

choking about that. Although I might be right about the two That was a joke, but I stand by that. That is. Oh, that is such a bad look. It's awful. It's it's silly, and it's stupid, and it would never happen with a better run organization because he'd know better than to be with the fans taking selfies at the end of the game. And that's what you're gonna do if you're a highly disorganized team with very little Imagine

being his teammate, imagine Belichick. Imagine what would happen. He'd probably cut when they leave the field too early, So he left whenever. I'm saying that they thought the game was over and it wasn't. I think that happened. It was a very weird the self. Yes, Terry McLaren. We should mention is sometimes people talk about like quarterbacks. Okay, here's a rookie quarterback that took you know, took over for his team and carried them to win. That's a

nice moment. Terry McLaren put this team on his back. He got why open for what should have been the game winning touchdown to drive before Haskins missed him. It ends up the tie. And then Jeff driscoll, who looked determined despite having a pretty good day before that, to just throw this game away through one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen that was dropped, then through an interception the next play, and then through an interception on the last drive to h McLaren gets an amazing to

set up the game winning field goal. It wasn't really a great Haskins through at least on that play, and it was all McLaurin and I wish the best of the kid. I hope he has a great career. But do you do you really know you're now you're rooting for your take. Of course you don't has a great career. I am not rooting for my take. I wanted to have a good career, but let's not just you know, toss it aside is something that doesn't speak to it a larger issue with the entire organization or or our

entire society. But fair enough and request for the Detroit lines please never enter a season with Drizzy as your backup quarterback. Again. He hasn't been the problem, Drizzy. He's not a good pas. This is a franchise that only knows from Matt Castle has a backup quarterback, so you can't really blame them. I like him on the ground. Oh yeah, all right, let's move on big line here.

Here's Garolo gonna fake and boot left against Richie James Jr. They're gonna throw a jot White open or channel ten five. He is back touchdown, Cisco fine Joers want to play design? How good does that feel? Feel? Great? Baby? George? Channel the great rock Solid, Greg Papa and Tim Ryan with

the call. Forty Niners Radio Network. Yes. After the Green Bay Packers but eight on the board and gave the game a little bit of a pulse in the second half, George Kittle and Jimmy Garoppolo combined to ice it with that sixty one yard touchdown. Final score thirty seven forty Niners Packers eight, a total wipe out in a game that was ten nothing after the first quarter, twenty three zip at the half, and it just never felt competitive and Greg, that was not what we signed up for

on Sunday. So I think one of the most disappointing, if not the most disappointing primetime game of the year. And it reminded me so much of the Packers last trip to the West Coast, where they just didn't show up, they stayed out late. Again. That narrative actually should look comforting in hindsight because it explained to what happened to

the charges. But now you're just if you're a Packers fan looking at a team that's had the doors blown off them and two of their last three games, and that's big time concerning when it's the passing game that's a huge part of the problem. Aaron Rodgers dropped back to pass thirty seven times tonight and the Packers ended up with eighty one yards. I mean that that is total domination from the best defense in the league, or the most talented defense in the league against someone that

was an MVP candidate at least before the cessler. I got another one for you. Aaron Rodgers threw the ball thirty three times. He averaged three point two yards per attempt, But that is not Gabbard Zone. That is something ghastly that I don't remember seeing too often, three point two yards per attempt. It's San Francisco's absolutely punishing defense that

is playing really well. And I think it's a lack of big play options for Aaron Rodgers like they ideally, the Packers are a run team where Aaron Jones is so important to them, and they had no way, there was no real big play way back into this game tonight. Taking into account quality of opponent and holding a first ballot Hall of Famer to the lowest yards protempt of his entire career, it's the most impressive performance of the season,

and it is a great timing for the performance. If there was anyone that kind of doubted them a little bit after the last couple of weeks, Oh you you needed to step up in the final minutes to beat the Cardinals at home last week. Oh you got beat by the Seahawk. Maybe you're not that good. Well, guess what they are that good. This is a great Niners team that at ten and one, and like we said earlier in the show, this is a loaded NFC and It's gonna be a lot of fun to see how

it all shakes out. But they this is gonna be a big one because what this does now it takes the path. We're just talking straight up number one seed. You could, to me take the Packers out of the mix for a couple of different reasons. But at eight and three, their two games behind the Niners and they have the tiebreaker San Francisco, I would say this too. I mean, the Niners obviously have this stretch of the

Packers tonight, the Ravens next week in the Saints. After you had you dropped this one tonight, you could start to see the formation of a potential mini free fall that would drop the Niners out of that number one slot. Right. So this this was just an absolutely but it's not. They didn't just sneak out of here. They pounded them. And it leaves you with a lot of questions about Green Bay's ultimate journey. And they can get healthier, they

can get Matt Breed back, they can get Joe Staley back. Uh. I'm so impressed with the team that you know, they get Killer Witherspoon back and they can't even put him in the starting lineup. Because Emmanuel Mosley is playing so well at cornerback. They've had as many injuries as any team in the NFL, and they might be the best team in the NFL. That's coaching and Kyle Shanahan. That George Kittle touchdown we heard at the top of this

that is a coaching play. And there was a few great play calls by Kyle Shanahan where he gave his team a big time edge, made life easy for his quarterback, and you did not see it. Advantage Mike Lafleur, bad night, Matt Lafleur. The the only thing michaela Flare is the coordinator. Give him some love. The only thing saving the Packers from a free fall is they have the Giants, Redskins,

and Bears the next three weeks. But this is an offense where that Raiders game in week seven, Romo is talking about how Aaron's getting really familiar with the system. He's complimenting la Fleur well like conceptually starting to understand everything. They're in this groove. They'll get the Vante Adams back and instead we see, you know, I think in the last three game stretch, Aaron Rodgers kryptonite show up once again that holding the ball too long and waiting for

the perfect play. Well, they're their defensive line. The forty Niners had had another big night where they dominated. Fred Warner has just been on absolute fire. A couple of game changing plays in the first half, but a lot of this is on Rogers. Uh, you know, the fumble to start the game, which started off, you know, things

on such a bad foot. Was one of those plays where the Blitz kind of confused and he held the ball and the bigger problem was they got the ball back nothing down late second quarter to fifty five left first down for the Packers, and they somehow went into halftime down twenty three to nothing to three and outs where Davante Adams there's a miscommunication, Rogers has a throwoff, you give up a quick touchdown to the to the

forty Niners. Then you get the ball back with fifty seconds left, another quick three and out that the forty Niners take advantage of, and it was over. I mean once McLaughlin hit that kick, McLoughlin, Mark Sessler knew it to go up twenty three nothing. It was the biggest play they And then then you come back the third quarter and Bassler treated that kick like it was. It was beautiful, and I thought it was very critical. But the you know that the Packers come back in the

third quarter, I thought, lacking some urgency. They do score and they get there. It's twenty three to seven, but it's this long, winding, eight minute drive where suddenly the third quarter was melting away and then the Kiddle thing happened and its lights out. Garrappolo had the highest passer rating of his career. They both both teams had eleven possessions. This is a telling stat. Uh, Niners just had eleven plays three thirty Excuse me. They had forty five plays

for three thirty nine yards. The Packers seventy plays and eleven possessions for a hundred totally yards. I mean, it was just a crushing beat down by the by the Niners. And we'll see how the Packers. We talked about it on Thursday. They were set up so if they could go into San Francisco and when their schedule softened up enough where they looked like they would have been lined up to get that one or two seed. Now they're

gonna be scrambling because they're in a tough spot. But good on the Niners and UH people are talking up the Big Bell Bottom as a as a building that that that's jumping, that joints jumping. Now you've had some energy this season. I mean as they shoot there, they've got a nice, overachieving ten and one UH star powered team. They better be jumped. Helps the happier starting quarterback you know back in the in the fold this season playing awesome and not being four and twelve. I mean that

can wake up things like the Big Bill Bottom in life. Okay, reminder that this this video show. You can find it on YouTube or NFL dot com. Erica, two things real quick before we say goodbye. One, as the show is taping, breaking news allegations of improper relationship for Justin Tim you weren't going to Jessica. Is he stepping out on Jessica Biel? You tweeted about it multiple times? Well, I just don't know how I can defend it. Photos in the big easy,

I don't know what you know. More information needs to needs to come out before I can mak an educated opinion. It is my educated opinion to someone who follows these matters that the uh, the culture vultures out there have been looking to kind of rid themselves of Justin timber Lake. They just wanted they're done with Justin timber Lakes. Certain people in the culture from Dan, they've been looking to cancel him for years. Yes, the pop culture cogniscenti. Matt

money Smith told me that the g is silent. Kanye Sente don't care. I like cognoscenti better what Yeah, it's scarbage. Pop culture cogniscenti are looking to get rid of him. If he cheated on bial Okay, after he you know, rode that Brittany uh faithful to him to the top of the charts, they'll they're sending him out. He is out of the picture. Never root for the vultures. He'll never have another hit album again. If that's the truth. So just live with that arca, try to sleep on that.

That's the stakes here. The case is still you know, don't of course? Okay, just right, quoted an onlooker, How much more reliable could the story be? Yeah, but there are photos and videos and pictures and Ryan Bartlett here, Yeah, her hands like draped on his inner thigh like, but they're at a bar and he's very intoxicated. But their cost just be flirting with him. That doesn't mean that they're doing something off. The t N media inside has

got something on this too. Spotted with that a wedding ring he was no. Also up in the air whether he could have an album, whether they find them guilty or not. Man in the Woods now not his best work, and uh, we're kind of out of time, Ricky. But I also want to remind everybody that Erica pointed out weeks ago Dwayne Haskins want to disgraced the selfie incident,

the combine incident. Yeah, there was. Remember I told you boys about how I was sick with the flu at the airport and I was, you know, waiting for my flight, had a hundred and five fever and I look and it wasn't a fever dream. It was Dwayne Haskins with his backpack which was very very expensive. Lou Yes, I looked it up. It was like twenty k um and he went into the family bathroom one stall where they were like mothers and children waiting, and he was in

there for over twenty one minutes. I timed it. Well, leave it there, I mean, what else that's draw your own conclusion and traveling time of possession there, and that's well said. Greg. All right, thank you, Ricky hanging there, thanks hanging there. There was no rain, Let's go. Bartlett's like, what still feeling this? Stan Hands is signing off for a quiet storm. The Male Man, the Old Boss, Hollywood Behind the Glass Sail Tuesday,