2019 Week 11 Recap

was free to the people. I didn't hate this Sunday. Is that this that the no I did wisdom here? It was just like the big games? What didn't have a black check moments? It was just it was fine, It was good. It checked a lot of boxes that it's almost over. That's good. Let's talk about it. Mark. We'll give you the floor real quick before we get into anything. Um the Cleveland Browns. What happened on Thursday? In my mentions? My mentions were flooded with people saying, oh,

I wanted to hear from Sessler. We'll give you the floor for thirty seconds right now to address the fiasco in Cleveland. It was as a very uh Cleveland type win. You've finally beating the Steelers for the first time in

five years. Your quarterback played the cleanest game he's played to some degree during a messy season, and all anyone can talk about is a and a controversy that feels like it was spun from the dreamlands of Dave damashek I mean, who's been tweeting about it NonStop ever since, so you know it's it's it's talking about checking all the boxes I could not. I've stayed off Twitter ever since.

I don't need to interact about it. We all saw what it was, and you know we won't be seeing Myles Garrett for many, many moons, many months in a row. Biggest takeaway there was just damas Twitter accountants on your radar. I interact, I interact happily with a million times, but it's like, I don't need to go on and on about it. You know it was. It was a bombermark. I'm sorry. It was hard to draw up a win

that produced less enjoyment for you. Yeah, it's It's reminded me of the Jets win on on Monday Night when I was essentially and not because of Dan, but you're not allowed to celebrate that game either, because the Jets had like three professional players on the field. It was just like this season is mostly a bummer. And just to tie it all together, Myles Garrett broke Trevor Simeon's leg in that game as well, So there is a

bee line here. It's all been building up to that. Um, we'll get it more into that perhaps during the week, but um, we have some football that occurred on Sunday to talk about. Um, And uh, I'm excited, you know, Greg, even when there's not major, major subplots in all time games, you love all football games. So this is gonna be a fun hour. I'm gonna have a great time, all right. So why don't we start with the game that had

probably the most excitement per minute. Let us head to the big barrel bottom or he runs jetside, He's got a turn, Tim touched out, Fred Siscow, zero blaidh kitchen singarofolo and who comes up with a big playe the touchdown machine. Jeff Wilson goes up over his head, collects the rock and rolls. Excellent call by Greg Poppa and Tim Ryan of the forty Niners Radio network. There's the energy.

We got it from that team. Jimmy Garoppolo beat the blitz found Jeff Wilson Jr. Who gathered the past bass jetted into the end zone for the go ahead touchdown with thirty one ticks to play the decisive score in the niners thirty six win over the Cardinals. West Kyler Murray and the Cards pushed the first place Niners to limit. But it's called a gut chet win, gut check win for San Francisco. Yeah, you want to play with fire, Scarecrow, send your zero blitz. Jimmy G hitting the game winner

right there? Uh, what's crazy about this? Jimmy G throws for a career high four Those came in the final three quarters. He had four yards going into the second quarter, and he finished with nine and a half yards per attempt. He also threw two red zone interceptions. But before I knew whom Smith asked this performance just in terms of like the mistakes, the yard and just a wild shootout performance, I was ready to push back on the narrative that we have to have a state of the union of

every quarterback after every game. When I was if Jimmy G was gonna emerge victorious out of this, we'll do it well. A lot of the same things you're gonna hear for Carson Wentz in other quarterbacks, what they're missing, what they don't have, why they're not playing well. You say the same thing for Jimmy G. Today. He doesn't have his leading rusher, and Matt Breeda was out, his left tackle, Joe Staley was out, his best, the best

offensive player in the team, George Kittle was out. Emmanuel Sanders, his number one receiver, is in and out of the game with rib injury and was clearly limited when he was on the field. All these things working against him. A defense that's been dominant gives up three touchdowns to the opposing quarterback, and Jimmy G steps up big. I thought, you know, he had some problems throwing a little bit high early in the game and his receivers still struggling

to come down with it. But Deebo Samuel running after the catch, Tevin Coleman running after the catch, Kyle use Check moving the chains. It was a you know, it was use all your weapons, and Kyle Shanahan once again just a brilliant play caller. I would be concerned though, that he didn't have a running game, because that's two

straight weeks. And yeah, you're missing Brita, but you well, one yards per game in the first seven weeks of the season and seventy four yards per game in the last three weeks, right and under two yards per carry. Maybe it's you know, you're playing a division rival two straight weeks. Seattle has a pretty good bet on on what Shanahan wants to do. And now you place the Cardinals two times in three weeks, that's tricky. But I don't mind. You know this, this Cardinals forty nine. Some

teams they just match upgrade have this team. These teams play all the time only NFL Classic. When if I'm a Cardinals fan and there was reason for depression early on in the season, and you know, our friend Jason zolmald who is our resident Cardinals fan, has been up and down about it, but I would be enthused. And every season gets one of these teams at around this point in the year where records, aside, whatever's happened aside

toss it. They become the berserker and they can cause major issues for other teams they play the Rams twice the Cardinals. They could knock the Rams out of the playoffs between now in the end of the year, and then one of those is weeks seventeen, they play the Steelers and Browns. How about you knock them out too. This is a berserker team that can cause damage in the a f C and NFC. Although you if you're a Cardinals fan, I mean you hate that Steve Wilkes call,

I mean you're up. You know he's trying to make a big play to win the game in regulation by you know, throwing a zero blitz at him with thirty seconds left, when you know, at best at Joseph France, Joseph rather sorry nut, Steve looks, uh, and you're hoping that maybe Chase McLoughlin miss is a kick, but instead you go all out and you have Chandler Jones covering a running back and you know what Chandler Jones did.

He got undressed on that play. The play was over within one second because Chandler Jones is on the ground because you know most they're you know, beats him and uh, that's tough. It's to be fair. They didn't like a lot of Steve Wilkes calls either in recent history, so you can't expect fans to be okay with a loss. But I look at this as sort of an unbiased person, and you found your quarterback, anything to get you a better draft pick, it's fine by me. They I mean,

it was sloppy. You you had to take a quarterback two first rounds on a row. But the brain trust and ownership and the people in the in the Cardinals. With the Cardinals, I think they're feeling really good right now, and you feel less good about the fact that you had a sixteen nothing lead in this game. That that's tough. That's that's a tough loss because if you if you win this game, you're not necessarily in in the playoff race.

You would get to four six and one the Cardinals if they would have held on this game, but but they would absolutely have some the vibes would be like swarming in that building. The positive vibes not quite at that level, but still its team to the brink, right right. I I don't care. I get the record and I get specific little plays, but Cardinals fans who have been in the darkness for a number of years at this point to West's point should just feel excited about the future.

And it's a huge win for the forty Niners. Because you lose this game to the Cardinals, that's a division loss. You've already lost to Seattle, You've got the Saints, You've got the Seahawks nipping net next games. Your schedule is so tough that you couldn't afford this loss. Next three games, Well, let's go next four since Greg's favorite team is on here, Packers, Ravens, Saints and then Falcons. Falcons are no get me those two middle games. Talk about my favorite teams are on

the road. And we have seen now Jimmy and GiB dominant against the Cardinals twice. Uh, let's see if he can do it against some of this competition coming up before we go. One last note um one of the all time Vegas disasters scenarios unfolded on the final play of this game, and Al Michaels is the king of Sunday night football and dropping the little nuggets about what's happening in the desert and how it affects. Uh, what happened with the final score. Let's just hear Chris Myers

give his best Al Michaels in a big spot. D J. Reid takes it into the end zone. That's time expires. Now wait a minute to a certain amount of people. This could mean a lot to a certain amount of people, all speaking code differently, and he's done it. Grade the ref, uh, greg, since you're the expert. Wait grade, what is ref? I think it was solid A number of people, not amount of people? Okay, grammar wise, it takes down, take it down?

He minus, all right, let's move up lem in motions into the back here and then motions too much of lateral. Edeman is looking at throw under pressure to strike for a Patriots touchdown. Who wrestle Castle Paty. You can see from up here perfect coal by McDaniels, the execution of Brady just to take a slight step up to make sure to make sure Edelman off. The return motion is widen up and behind him. He quickly gets in the ball and Edelman throws a dirt to Dorset Dragon left

the right. Bob Sochi and Scott Zolak, I gotta feel in your whole family's going down. Zolak. The Patriots Radio network with the call, oh those tricky New England Patriots Julian Edelman connects with Philip Dorsett the go ahead score with ten forty nine to play, and the slug like Eagles offense slugged its way to zero points in the final forty two minutes of game time. Patriots win. Greg Tom Brady and I mean no disrespect. Was blame Gatherett

level dangerous in this one. But the Carson Wentz led Eagles attack appears completely broken right now. They had a tough matchup. It was windy, as Tony Romo pointed out a million times in the game, but maybe it was worth pointing out because this is where one of the worst performances you'll see out of Tom Brady and Carson Wentz. I was coming into this game hoping that you're gonna learn something about these two teams coming out of the by how they're gonna fix some of their problems, what

they really are looking at with their strength. But it was really more of the same for both teams. I mean a million people are gonna make the joke they the best spiral of the day was from Edelman, you know, I mean it was I mean, that was a bullet actual Dorset's gonna yeah, one million doors set was concussed on that play. There was a ton of injuries, you know, and Wentz his defense also on Jeffrey didn't play in this game. They lost Lane Johnson after the third dry,

which when you know, about ninety yards. Uh. And they didn't have a good drive basically the rest of the entire game. Jason Peters, their left tackle, went out with what looked like could be a serious injury very late in the game. Uh. And the Patriots defense was probably the group I've learned the most about, just because they haven't played many even halfway decent offenses and to see them have a truly dominant performance against a good offensive line.

Uh and the Eagles was encouraging. But you didn't, you know, you didn't feel any better about the Patriots offense after this game. It makes me think, and you guys seem to think that my happiness lives or dies on the Patriots winning or losing in November d entirely. But during the game, you were getting juiced, Like ten minutes left, You're like, this game is over right in the vibe in the room is effected. It will always it will I will always be rooting for the Patriots. Uh. To lose.

But at the same time, I watched this game and I continue now to watch his team as the schedules tighten up a little bit, and these will be famous last words, but it just feels like, I, you know, after what we saw with the Ravens, that the Patriots, they will handle teams like the Eagles. They will beat up on all the bad teams just because they have

Tom Brady and the best coach ever. But I would be if I was a Patriots fan, I'd be a little wet in the underpants with a fear of the new guard like a Lamar Jackson and even Patrick Mahomes and maybe even a wild card team in this conference. I don't think the Patriots when I watched them, I don't think they scare anybody. Right, well, who's I've been saying that since Week two, that that it's it's it's

not a great offense. I also don't think this part of the season is huge for them other than stacking wins. I just think they had this five game stretch. As a fan, I went into it thinking, you gotta get three out of those five. You start at Baltimore at Pittsburgh, you're one in one, right, now if you want to get it by. Now, you'd love to get the one seed if you're the Patriots, But the big thing is is getting the by and so this is a big

road win. The defense is coming together. I think Isaiah Wynn replacing the worst left tackler, one of the worst left tackles coming back Marshall new House at least gives you some hope. Well there, I mean, there were still plenty of plays where Tom Brady had guys in his face. I mean, he there was a lot of game I thought so too. Any that's they said at one point he had pressure up the middle, and you will make

Tom Brady uncomfortable. Except it's true in this game because they were I mean they were creeping every quarterback ever they had eighteen yards. You have said, Greg that their line is an issue and that running the ball consistently is an issue, and today that that absolutely was the case. I think they just faced an eagle's offense that I think I fell asleep at my desk three or four

times waiting offense to come. And and I don't want to referendum every quarterback either, but there were a couple of chances for Carson Wentz to write a completely different story along with the rest of the that can't blame his receivers for some of those throws on the final draw. No, I mean, the wide receivers are no treat in this

aim either with Elshan Jeffrey out. I do wonder if the wind had the Brady and Wins just throwing different types of passes than they usually do, because they both threw five to six low scud missile skitterers that just looked bortles like as as you mentioned, Yeah, well he was sub Gaberg Gabbert's zone at four point six yards, so yes, so is Wentz pick up Jaguar's quarterback and compare him to Yeah, but Nelson Agilarum had a chance to come down with that ball and listen, you could

say he should have had it, but that's not Nelson Aguilar's game, making great catches, contested catches that would have been in with yeah. So I while it was in some ways very perfect ball, though, and if he cracked it perfect well from the beginning, maybe it wouldn't have like this mean where he was at the end, where he's like forming a reverse sea with his body. That says no, I've tried that. That's sund easy, have you. Ah, there's such a need to just remake this this offensive

playmaker group around wentz Um. I like, I like the young running back Sanders, but I think with and Arts of course is one of the best tight ends. But even with al Sean Jeffrey, there is there somebody on the on this team that scares you. Like a playmaking speed, right, they need speed. They just need to kind of boot

them see a little bit here ERTs. But you know today and today here's my favorite stat because every time I looked up it was either third and ten and past going to Jordan Matthews who had one catch for six yards on six targets. I mean, they have a talent deficiency and it's not it's not excusing or absolving wentz who is not playing very well this year has been very on and off Um. But they need they need help, They need reinforcements. I think if you're the Patriots, though,

style points they really just don't matter. Like this November stuff. If if you're just playing for Super Bowls, you want to have everyone healthy. They're getting a little healthier. They brought back nikkil Harry, their first round pick who did have one a few catches today? What was it? Three? Yeah, not much. You lose door set for the most part. Uh, they're actually getting healthier. Want you know, you get Matt

la cospect. It's not gonna be like, here's the thing they want, here's the thing they They've won super you know, they won Super Bowls early on, and many teams have with weird days like today where their coaches do cook up, like one or two key players in the game. That just ends up being enough. And I think Patriots fans just gotta get used to that's what this nobody's panicking. I will panic when they're down right by forty points in the Super Bowl because three didn't get the job done.

So at they host the Seahawks. The Eagles do next week dirt nap game mark not not in the NFC East, because they also after that have the Dolphins, the Giants twice in the Redskins, so a bad team can make a late search. They have a nice schedule, all right, let us move up second down to eleven. Jackson will throw out of the shotgun. He's got Ingram five and he's in touch downright, blown coverage for sure by the Texans.

Lamar Jackson saw marking from a wide open on the flat, and when Ingram got the ball, he knew he had a touchdown. Jerry Sandusky w b a l with the call. Lamar Jackson four more touchdown passes he had an eighty six yards on the ground, an MVP worthy showcase once again, helping the Ravens extend their winning streak to six games, a forty one to seven win over the Texans. Mark This was built as a showdown between two the great

young quarterbacks in the league, right in our league. But while Deshaun Watson mostly ran for his life, Lamar Jackson's sword like a glorious Raven. Yes he did. I mean, I'd say one of the upsets of this show today is that this is our third build game, because barring an absolute wipe out, which it was, it would have been up at number one. This was the clash that we were fired up about on Thursday and have waited

for this. You were I was surprised that the confidence with which you were picking and absolute beat down by the Ravens. Well, I remember on my way home, I'm an uber. I'm thinking, you know, I'm gonna get bit on that one, I was. I came out all excited about the Ravens and it's probably gonna be one of these overtime things. But by the way, when said they should just be like, yeah, I know, I know, but that's that's not real because I honestly, I am kind

of surprised. But the level of incompetence by the Texans in this game was somewhat stunning. And that's why when I look at the box score, if you just don't watch the game, yet, no one on either side of the ball on offense stands out. No one had two hundred and fifty yards. It wasn't a four hundred yard performance like Jimmy g and some of the others. It

was Matt jude On. It was Don Wink Martindale and the Ravens defense that caused utter havoc right out of the gate for Deshaun Watson, and you could see right away. So this was a game where it wasn't It wasn't one of these ones that was over in five minutes. But the tone was set when Deshaun Watson on the first possession two minutes in, is doing one of his curates multiple figure eights where he's going in and out

of Ravens defenders. You think he's going to escape and whip the ball to DeAndre Hopkins twenty five yards down field. Instead it is a strip sack. The Ravens go from there, And it really wasn't much later than the Ravens were up twenty one nothing on a beautiful catch and run by mark Ingram, who was uncoverable at put points in. This friend, my friend. They're tight ends there, running backs, everyone was doing it. This was basically putting the rest

of the league on blast. I do believe at this point that the Super Bowl goes through Baltimore, not New England. And this is such a different looking football team than anything else out there right now, and the Browns fan of me has to just shed all preconceived issues with the Ravens because they're the most fun team to watch and they are dominant on another level. Right now. We've reached the point in the season where you can tell that the whole city is going crazy for this team

because it's just that exciting to watch this team. Yeah, everybody's having everybody's having fun in and around the Ravens, even in extends the postgame pressers mark Ingram after another quality game. Uh, he does his thing and then Lamar Jackson is on deck at the press conference podium. And this is how the running backs set up the quarterback. Now, I would just like to introduce you to the man, the myth, the legend, the m v P front runner.

If anybody else guts say something different about that, and come see me, I'm right here and be more outside the bank. If you got an issue with that, comes see me. I'm about the big trust woo, Lamar Jackson

in the flesh. Yes, trust that It's funny, mad funny, and I like the Lamar even tried to follow it up by introducing Matthew Judean Uh with the next he didn't have quite the one thing because the reason, and if you have not watched this show, that we make fun of the fact that I went on this random off season trip to Obviously I'm not to make fun. Well it is it is, we have point fun at it. We don't make fun, all right, Well whatever we can deal with that. Later. I went to Italy and Germany

on a USO mission. In mark Ingram was was along for the ride. And what I would say is that after dinner as a group of us in that, like he would order an ice cream Sunday, he would talk about the ice cream Sunday the exact same way, the details, Like he couldn't have been more excited about the chocolate sauce and stuff. So he's just that dude. Can I just say, was mark Ingram along for the ride or were you along for the ride? Ultimately at the us O Trip trip, I think it would definitively is up

in the air. I mean you have to hear more about what happened on that definitively up in the air. The it's that surprising that the Ravens ran all over them. What do they end up with? Two hundred and sixty three yards? They are on pace to be the greatest running team in the history of the NFL, at least

in terms of sixteen game schedule. What is more surprising is their defense and scary I think for the Patriots and Chiefs and the rest of the a f C if their defense can win games on their own so times, and that they keep getting better since they picked up Marcus Peters and they keep making changes. They benched uh Patrick Owasso, their their middle linebacker today, Who's again, I've really been struggling. Uh, and who you know, they they're

tweaking it and it's all working. As you mentioned, Mark, Mark you there was, and we're gonna play the sound from Bill O'Brien in a moment. This is a blowout game, but he's furious about a past interference. Uh, that wasn't did you want to just yeah, thank you for because that's the kind of thing where any time I was writing or tweeting about Lamar Jackson, Texans fans are saying this game is a ref manufactured nightmare, and I do. I will say this. It was the first It was

an opening possession pass where DeAndre Hopkins. If you watched the replay, I would say that there were three separate arguments for past interference, to the point where they threw it to their ref analyst guy and he said, yes. The issue is when you're trying to challenge this and it goes to New York, it seems to hit some sort of robotics stone wall where they're unwilling to overturn. This would have been a clear cut example to overturn and it did change the game, but it's not the

only excuse. MESSI as Hell, let's hear from Bob on that I don't know, John, I have no idea. I gotta watch the table. I have no idea. I don't know. I have no idea. I have no idea what passion appearances anymore, no idea. It's messed up, West, It's one and done. It's got to be because this is the This is like the prevalent takeaway on where we are right now. It's perfectly understandable that a referee would miss

a call in real time, at real speed. It's inexcusable to slow a play down, show it frame by frame on your television to your audience, and then tell them they didn't see what they saw. I love the sport, but I don't love it when a legitimate sport forces me to view the proceedings through the prism of professional wrestling, which is how I view any time to go under the hood for replay, well said, all right, it is now time for road a victory presented by the United

States Marine Corps. It's third down and seven at the Lions seventeen. Snap his back, they blitz, and he flips it out right. Elliott picks it off the ground. Ten tots left, dances in that's a touchdown and Elliott comes up doing his impression of the Prescott hip swivel warm up dance. Wow, that was a desperation throw and Elliott virtually made a one hand catch to keep the ball off the turf. Brett Sham. The sham got tear up

my ears. I like it, Marry Marine corpl Lord, damn god Dak Prescott given ample time by his offensive line, and he rewarded their precision with four four yards of three touchdowns, taking the Cowboys to over the Detroit Lions. Greg, we know the Lions defense steaks. We know Matthew Stafford ain't playing ball right now with the fractures in his back. Why is this game as close as it was? Because Amari Cooper isn't healthy, Because the Cowboys defense continued. You

have a very mediocre season. But I still think it shows how this Cowboys team is different because with a Marie Cooper not playing a full compliment of snaps and the running game, and Zekiel Elliott not really doing that much, they have Michael Gallup to go off for nine and one in this game. They have Randall cop that make a couple of big plays for for one fift and a touchdown. But Gallup, especially in this game, played like a number one receiver. I mean, he made plays in

tight coverage, he ran great routes. He was doing it all and the past you would have an injury or

two and the Cowboys would go caput. And now you've got those two guys, uh in a really balanced offense overall, in a better approach by Jason Garrett, who knew his defense was struggling even against Jeff Drisco, who played pretty well actually, and kept throwing the ball when they had a lead in the fourth quarter and even through the ball on second down to go ice the game instead of running at three times and punting and trusting his defense.

So I am hoping that is Jason Garrett leaning into their passing attack, because that is what this team is

all about. One of the reasons I was so excited about this offense entering the season was because you could tell by the way Michael Gallup was playing in August and September he was making the leap and then he went he had a nice scope in September, came back and was not playing with confidence, started dropping balls, wasn't explosive, It looks like he's back now and this still the best offense in the league by d v o A. I'm sure right, and they lose lyle Collins late in

the game in Cooper's not You're still kind of waiting for them to be a hundred percent healthy, but they're closing. It's your point on Garrett. Jane Slater from NFL never reported that he held a meeting with the team and basically took accountability. They didn't say what for, but we could put together some dots in what it might be about the offense. Yeah, I think it was him being conservative last week because he was self critical that he leaned on the run too much in that game. And

I meant to mention when I talked about death. Tony Pollard was huge in this game, four for forty four as a receiver, including a touchdown, but he made plays on his own. I mean, they have playmakers around Dak Prescott,

who is also playing great. It happens sometimes in the NFL with head coaches, even guys that have been established, there could be a come to Jesus type moment or just the light goes on, or for whatever reason, maybe if you're Cowboys and that's what you're hoping happens here because they have been since Zigela Elliott came to town. They're like, this is our best player, this is the engine of our offense, and we're gonna go through him.

Perhaps West though, it's it's better to have a more open mind about how you had hacked the opponent and just be more aggressive in general, which has been a negative hallmark. If that makes any sense of the guard era, Well, I think what you're saying is true, especially when Dak Prescott has overtaken Zeke Illiot as the engine driving this offense. Perfect and Dak has just had a phenomenal year. There cannot be critics anymore of the way he's played. Yeah, I had him and I have to rank, you know

the m v P cannets. I had him fifth going into this week. A lot of people thought that was what do you guys just go back and forth with the rearing of m VPS. It feels like it's every week. Really, I have to know every week, it's part of it's part of the debrief. But they he has to be that good because I would be concerned about the defense. It's not a good sign when Jeff Driscoll runs for fifty one in a touch. You know he should run more. Frankly,

he passed on it a couple of times. Both Scarboroughs running through your defense. They ran in the red zone. The lines did pretty well. It was closer than it really should have been. But yeah, here's uh, we're worried about the Cowboys defense. Yeah, here's an unpopular opinion. You know, I've Jeff Drisco is playing on Thanksgiving. I don't totally hate it. I want Stafford out there, but Driscoll has got a little something. I still I would like to put it out there and and stone me if you wish.

People of Michigan, you the ones that live by the lakes, but maybe we flex out the Lions going forward on Thanksgiving. Tradition is great, and we're not going to take away your game in that week, the week twelve or week thirteen game, whatever, but we're just gonna slide it to Sunday and then put in something Marquis in that early game parade coming with me. That's all they have left.

The family tradition you've had for thirty five years. Sorry, whatever, I just mean one particular grandparents who celebrated this, They basically added the third game as a permanent flex where you can wake up late or you can just get going early with the Thanksgiving party and maybe skip that. About a flex by the schedule makers, like this is our game, this is what we're gonna do. I I hear you. I'm with you. I can't in this one, all right? They Lions fans have been through so much

that they can. I be honest. I I love it. I love that. That's I love the Lions, even when they stink. It's a big part of the holiday. It's in Detroit. Everybody's having fun. But you know, sometimes you think Jeff driscoll, or maybe I can see Patrick Mahomes at noon on Thanksgiving? That would be nice. Do I need to be a Lions fan? And it's not so much this year, but in you know, countless years past, the team is one in eleven and we're about to

get waxed to ten on Thanksgiving. Maybe don't affect my holiday if I'm Alliance fan? Just another Why wouldn't you be honest the whole time? Though? Dan, you said you said, okay, if I'm actually being honest, because I feel like I'm gonna get some heat just I'm trying to couch it. But also, like my statement, nice floodlights into that stadium. Please, that was you have a lighting issue. There so many critiques they're they're artificial turf looks gray green like that

is not a color that the facility. It's got a nice feel, old house quality to It's more green. Please more light. Do you hear that? People of Michigan? Thank you? And that was the road to Victory presented by the United States Marine Corps. And we move on. Set on the counter, gives off to Marlin. Matt cuts up field, patient run, spins out of a tackle going into the ten. He's at the five looking for the pylon, and he is touch down. Marlin. The best time you'll see all year.

The cults are in. It's seven to six. It's calm down, on down. Mattie Taylor with the call for the Colts Radio Network, and it may be the last time you see Mac for a while. At the check in. Is a fractured hand left this game in the third quarter? Anyway, Marlon Mack and Jonathan Williams both went over one hundred yards, part of the Colt's best running day fifteen years thirty three to thirteen win over the Jaguars at Lucas Oil Stadium.

The Colts piled up two sixty two yards on the ground, the JAG's offense unable to get much going in Nick Foles's return to the starting lineup. They it started great. Actually, their first possession, they go down the field full six of seven, a great little pass over the middle to d J h RK who takes it, takes it to the house and um, and away we go. We're off and running. But then the game just switched. It just flipped and Indie took over. And this has been an

issue for the Jaguars, who are in very deep trouble now. Um, this has been an issue for the Jaguars at multiple points this season, an issue stopping the run. And it's not even the worst game they had the season. Christian McCaffrey and the Panthers I think dropped to sixty eight bomb autum about six weeks ago. So they don't do a good job against the run, and they got into a situation where, you know, we talked about the Cowboys,

Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, who you know who's running the offense. Well, Leonard Fournett is the guy that makes the Jack's offense go. He only gets five carries in the first half of this game, and by the time they fall behind, you're not gonna go back to him. So essentially you're playing a different style ball that you usually play. And the game just slipped away into the Colts credit. Uh, they

get they they get Jacoby Brissette back. He doesn't do much in this game, but he stays on the field, he stabilizes the offense, and um, this is an important win and it sets up a huge game on Thursday night with the culture traveling to Houston. Who are the Jaguars going forward? The nick fools Jaguars, I mean they want they want to they want to get after the passer.

They don't have a backbone on defense apparently. But if you're Tom, I mean Tom Coughlin probably sold to his owner, you know what type of team he wanted to have a few years ago. And I guarantee, I bet the words we're gonna run the ball, we're gonna be tough, we're gonna stop the run came out of his mouth. And then you play the Colts and you have twenty nine yards rushing and they rush for two, six, four.

I know Leonard Fournette's season long stats look pretty good, but they go have and quarters at a time without running the ball at all. Well. I think that has a lot to do with the pairing of John d Filippo and Nick Foles, which was not in place when Kaughlin and crew hit the scene a couple of last year. They were away this run heavy, We're gonna run at all costs and it costs them right and Falls. You know, I was excited to see tough, tough opening spot for

Falls Nation here there at four and six. They're not done in the division, but you're down two games now with a couple of division losses, and uh, you're in. You're in pretty big trouble. I do love the a f C South because it's just it's it's very messy

in a fun way. Because you got the Colts and Texans, as I said, they're playing on Thursday night, great Thursday night game at six and four, the Titans hanging around at five and five, and then the Jaguars, who not feeling good about the Jacks at this point, but even they're on the property there two games out and they're in last place. So that I feel like there's gonna be a lot of shifting and moving around in that division potential. I still liked the Texans even after today.

I kind of, you know, my feeling because I was I was with you Mark on it, uh Weston and acknowledge it. But I thought that the Texans were catching the Ravens in a really bad time. Now it's fine and um, and that it was not going to be a good Sunday for them. Uh. But I also think, you know, throw it out. It feels like not to go back to the Texans, but it feels like with three weeks running, there's a playoff contender that just looks outrageously terrible. It was the Packers a couple of weeks ago,

last week it was the Saints. This week it's the Texans. I'm trying not to put too much stock into that with the Texans and writing them off, but the division feels definitely a lot tighter now that it did before kickoff tonight. Texans have a different ceiling than the Colts and the Jaguars. But the Texas have showed that floor, not today's floor, but a concerning floor more than once. Right, and they they this Colts team can say, Okay, that's fine,

but Thursday Night football, we can sweep the Texans. So that essentially would would essentially be a two game lead, and so you're right, that's a massive game. I also while we were talking, got a message from the Ryan Pace Defenders Committee. It's a group that just like and then they said, they said, yeah, the membership base it's pretty big. And they said yeah, they said, hey, can anyone mention that the Jaguars drafted Leonard four Nette, you know,

when they needed a quarterback. Everyone's killing me when I took Trabiski over Watson and Mahomes. You know, they take four net and Blake Bortles as their quarterback. They kind of blew that in retrospect. Good job by the Pace Committee. Pace Committee, Uh score big dub. I mean, I don't like that. That's what Pace is doing during an actual Bears game that were He's not He's not part of the well's not a lot of fans. I also want to say, West, you are since you met Lakisha, your

fashion sense has just gone through the roof. As we all know famously, Uh you say it's for an awakening on your part. Other people outsiders and critics say it's your wife that's dressing you, and you don't deserve as much credit. Would you like a true breakdown it can I get you, Let me finish my point, and then

I want you to take the floor in this. But I just want everyone and when you rewatch this game, if you're not watching on condensed to check out t Y Hilton's gigantic black diamond necklace that he's wearing on the sideline for four quarters. It makes a Mr. T necklace. Uh, look, you know, frail and tiny by comparison West the floor is yours. Well, let me you know I've I've attempted to steer the narrative on this a little bit as you all have. Uh, let me go with complete candor here.

It's harder to dress when you're overweight and you don't really care. But I dropped like seventy five pounds during cancer and I came back and close fit a little bit better. The cheaters diet, I call it. But but the pride, I would say, having Lakisha like just to hear a few words like no, I don't know about that, just during the week, and then you after a while, you start putting a few things together just because you hear it and then you feel confident enough to put

your own clothing styles. What does that have to do with the aggressive rips in your upper thigh jeans tonight? I mean that's how they showing some nice Can we stand up? Can we get the camera shot here? Wow, they're not really at the upper THI yeah, oh yeah, but look up? Oh yeah, what was that mark? Oh yeah, oh this one here current, but you got holes all over the place. Can you just camera one? Can you show them how high up it is on the thigh

because it's aggressively. Camera one has never seen anything like this, I can promise you. Oh yeah, that's right here right there. I mean that is that's a little tease to the ladies paying yourselves with the vapors. All right, let's let's move on. That's why I watch the shows. Now, looks right, fires and strike down field put John Brown is the fifteen end of the endow touchdown touchdown Buffalo John Brown touchdown bills from forty yards out. A great throw by

Josh Allen. That was a laser throw by Josh Allen up the sideline to John Brown. And that is exactly what Bill Strands wanted to see. Take that Greg Rostal, John Murphy, and Eric Wood with the call for the Bills radio network, Josh Allen ran for a score and tied a career high with three touchdown passes. Take that Greg rose Atal, including that forty yard connection to Smokey Brown. The Bills rom thirty seven twenty over the Dolphins, ending

Miami's two game winning streak. That completes a sweep of the home and home for the Bills, who are in prime playoff position at seven and three with six games to play. Mark it was nice to see the Bills actually hammer a team, which is what they did here. One thing that I specialize on if you're from the United Kingdom and you ever watched us on Sky Sports, is they have us on at the end of the first quarter of games. And I went on and defiantly announced that the big issue with the Bills as they

cannot close drives. They're a field goal offense. There's a lot to be concerned about, and they're a looking like a six seed that's about to get bounced out of January play. They go on minutes later to unleash seconds later unleash the first of four long, many played touchdown drives that dropped a bomb on a Dolphins team that I also oversold as the best, one of the best coach teams in the league. So you know, sometimes things don't go right in the way that you viewed. We

should maybe just stay quiet. And I know some behind the glass would agree as well. But this Dolphins team, they hang around, they had that ability, but they were overpowered today by I would say, I'm glad they used John Brown in that replay because John Brown is not someone that's gonna get a lot of talking points and pressed because he's just not a dominant player. But week after week for the Bills hundred and thirty seven yards today,

nine receptions. He's been there for Josh Allen. We after week they went back to using Devin's singletary a bunch. I think that's an up and down thing that I don't see him as someone that you can count on alone. They needed Frank Gore to and the Dolphins offense they ran into issues. I thought that the Bills defense, which has some of their own UH concerns, gave Ryan Fitzpatrick

a lot of issues up at the line. Ryan Fitzpatrick what looked a little bit beguiled at times, and this played out in the second half the way you'd expect the better team one. I don't think the Bills are thirty seven points a game team on by any stretch, but they flex their muscles a little bit today. I would imagine this is I will be a humbling experience

on game pass. It'll be good to see them put up some points that they you know, yes it was the Dolphins, but they needed a game where they scored points, where they had touchdown drives, and more importantly, that where their pass where I showed up. I think to me that's been as concerning as in their their rush defense. Is anything going on with Josh Allen? Because you thought this defense was gonna be special at least everything I read and the stats certainly support that. Their pastors that

they were getting after it. John seven Sex, John Brown, who has been at times one of the best deep receivers in the NFL on pace for ninety catches and yards. Playing with a quarterback who cannot complete a deep pass, maybe you'll get hot, you know, maybe Josh Allen get hot. Maybe John Brown should have been the Eagles target not to Seawan Jackson. Can we talk about Francore? Yeah, getting worse. Now been over a month since he's averaged like over

two point five yards perka. In fairness, he only gets the ball seemingly in third and one and fourth and one situations, and he always like gets stacked boxing. Old trope. It's true, it's true. Have you watched the last couple of weeks. You're allowed to break through drag a few g's that one, that's how you average one or two yards for carry third and one stacked box. That means there's no safety. You can just keep cruising. Your defense system is weakening. Greg so Many wrote off Francore only

three and a half years two earlier, right exactly. Frank Core's playing contributing role to US seven and three football team in the year. Give me a break the inconvenient roof what I call him? No, I respect for Frank. Everybody's got respect for Frank. I mean he's going to Canton? Is he he is? Sounds like a juicy offseason topic. We'll get there in the off season. All right, then let's move on. This is for all the money, Alan shot gun Snap, It's gonna paid. Right. How about how

big junker Brocos. That's the funk he's talking to him. They put politivity and there the three of the season talk all the way back on a floppy Sunday from a twenty zero deficit, they tat together for Brockos twenty seven twenty three. Paint the picture. Paul Allen with fat versus A think versus just went at a bush off and al did all the heavy lifting there. Vikings Radio Network.

The Vikings wiped away at twenty to zip halftime deficit with touchdowns on each of their first four drives in the second half, then held off the Broncos by forcing three straight incomplete passes in the end zone over the last ten seconds. You heard the last one there. They preserve a twenty seven to twenty three win. West. A comeback of this caliber is always gonna be a team effort. But come on now, Kirkie Cousins led the way baby,

check that box. Well, he's running out of dragons to slay here with last week beating a winning team on the road in prime time, and in this week, let's let's talk about the things that he accomplished in this game. They were down twenty to nothing at halftime, teams trailing by twenty or more points at halftime. We're oh in ninety nine. Over the last five seasons before that, the Vikings of the first team in forty years to score on every second half possession and win after trailing but

twenty points at half time. They are doing some things. And this isn't a day where Dalvin Cook All Pro candidate stuffed could not go anywhere on the ground, Adam feeling out of the game, not playing, and Stefon Diggs not a target officially in the first half. This all happened in the second half. And let's compliment Courtland Sutton. Remember the nineteen eighties wrestling where you'd have I guess

it's still in wrestling now. The curtain jerker he takes, you know, give him six minutes to kind of work the guy around and then you know he's gonna lose. Courtland Sutton was giving four arms shivers, kicking him in the chest, a little pile driver action, just taking care of the entire Vikings secondary, specifically Xavier Rhodes. Courtland Sutton is a man among boys and would not I would not have any problem with anybody putting him as the

second All Pro behind Michael Thomas. Every week against good corners, he is making unbelievable catches and the Broncos emptied out. This was the old kitchen sinc Game. Empty out your bag of trick plays, your gadget plays, and they did in this game. And that's how that's part of the reason why they got this lead twenty and nothing and then they ran out of trick plays, I mean second half.

Think about this day for the Broncos franchise. It starts with a report from CBS that the locker room is a little bit down on the Vic Fongio experience, that his gruff demeanor has led to some general unhappiness behind

the scenes. And then you have what could be kind of not season season saving because the season's kind of gone already, but something that would really make you feel good going into Minnesota and shocking a very good Vikings team, and then for its end with losing your fourth game of the season essentially in the final seconds in the fourth quarter. It has just been that kind of year for the Broncos, and uh, it would be very interesting

to see what what happens with them going forward. They have some players to build around and Alexander Johnson, this guy that they put in their starting line up at the end of September at linebacker and his tree formed their defense had another big game today. Shelby Harris had a big game for them in the first half. They have some good things going for them. But you're right, it's just a series of heartbreaking close loss I mean that no one, no one loses a lead like the Broncos.

But the crazy thing here was how little margin for error Cousins had. This is not a normal twenty point comeback or two touchdown come back. Not only did they score every possession, they had touchdowns on all four possessions. And you figure, Okay, well the Broncos, you know, offense let him back, get it. Not really, the Broncos offense only had four drives. They had a seven minute field goal drive they had. They had two other drives and that included a missfield goal they almost scored to win

the game at the end. The Broncos actually possessed the ball for over seventeen minutes in the second half. It was just the Vikings. Every time they got the ball, they scored a touchdown as fast as they possibly could and put it back on them that's pretty impressive. Look at the Vic Fonio resume. It also includes a pretty

disastrous second half against the Jaguars. Yes, it does a lot of disastrous can have right, Yeah, this is really yeah, And I know Brandon Allen is probably you know, you're you're holding You're holding the spot here for them for John Elway to go find go draft another quarterback that's almost gonna play soon. I would have to imagine Drew Lock.

I'm not sure what what the overall, what the scope is there, but Brandon Allen's mobility a couple of games in a row, because he did it against Cleveland too, and did it today. He had a big third down scramble that that bought them time. I know they lost the game, but it's not a I'm not killing Joe here. He just I think he gives this some another little element to their office. I agree. I think that he is a better fit for that offensive line than Joe

Flecco was. This game was almost like the micro cosm of this entire Vikant season. In one game, you know, they go, they have the early struggles, and you had one moment where you could see Stefon Diggs was clearly upset on a play that Kirk Cousins had a free play but instead of going down the field, you know, threw it to the fullback, which is like the most Kirk Cousins thing ever. On a free play, let's just

get two yards. But then that's squeak. We all got the grace because Dig's had a long touchdown on one of their quick drives. Later in the game. He also had a thirty four yard play called back on a Tiki tach holding penalty he could have had over fifty West. You said that Mr Cousins is running out of dragons to slay. I got one for you, alright. I have it written down. Win a playoff game before thirty second birthday.

That's fair. It's got more to do to prove himself as a true franchise leading quarterback when this division, so you put yourself in a in a chance to uh, you know, go far. In the love that Cousins narrative, he has played well enough to get everyone off his back. I think I agree with you. Stop being like the Twitter go to joke. Does it does feel like people are off his back at this at least for now. And they lost today. That would not have been the

case at all. Let us move out on Atlanta releases late on the Gunners. Right down the scene, Barnard back draps to the Kenyon three routes thirty thirty five. Barner forty fifty, has a block on the perimeter. He's only got the putter to beat Pollardi is tucked down and Barny scores touchdown Kenyon Barner and it is seventy seven yards? How sweet must that taste? The Kenyon Barner who used to play here, And this is just as pretty a

term return as you're ever gonna see. Just a weaving, unbelievable return by Barner with a vision, got a few blocks, splits in the end zone. Oh yeah, the Kenyon Barner revenge gage West Durham and David Archer with the call. I feel like we're not seeing as many punt returns for touchdowns now. That was one of the best, if not the best of all year. The falcons are suddenly soaring high above the mountains. Well, Barner returned a punt

seventy eight yards. Well, if you sit next to Greg you would feel that way to Okay, high above the mountains is illustrious. But he would turn that seventy eight yards just one of many highlight it's for the Falcons. Thank god this wasn't three. We don't like that number in Atlanta. Three win over the Panthers in Charlotte. Greg

makes sense of this for me. I mean, you guys have been making fun of me enjoying a team, you know, changing what everyone said about them, that they had given up on their coach, that they were unwatchable, like we we all just kind of took them for jokes. And they've come out and they've beaten the hell out of two teams with winning records of Saints and the Panthers on the road and back to back weeks. And it

starts because he got a professional quarterback. On the first third down of the entire game, Matt Ryan sees exactly where the blitz is coming from with Ron Rivera, hits a slant to Calvin Really his slants to Julio Jones and and Calvin Ridley or is pretty times play as

as any in football. And then he had three beautiful throws in this game downfield, one to Julio Jones and two to Ridley where the pressure is coming on him, he waits to the last second he throws that high arching pass and they gets down beautifully into his receiver's hands. And that was one of many reasons they don't in every phase. But he was awesome and he's killed Ron

Rivera's Panthers every time he plays him. I mean, anybody that's watched this Falcon steam and it's been a tough season on balance, knows that Matt Ryan has never been the problem with I'm just trying to figure out still now is for eight games or whatever, arguably the worst defense in the league, complete lack of discipline and blown assignments, just getting destroyed week after week, and now against the last two weeks, as you said, against two playoff level teams,

they've allowed four field goals and no touchdowns. They're looking pretty younger, aren't they looking younger? Apparently? I mean some of that when you know, apparently took place before the bye even but the yeah, the stats are are just rare. They had four turnovers forced in the first nine games of the season. They had four today. They had seven sacks in the first eight games. They have eleven in the last two weeks. Desmond Truffont returns today and played

really well. I don't think this is a playoff level team. I think the Panther No, no, the Panthers, Oh, of course the Falcons are. They're running through this NFC South. They have five straight games in the visit and they're gonna win all five. What's their record there? Three and seven? So that they're in, you gotta win out and get some help. A lot of defense is I was thinking about this the way coast falling into the sea. That

would help. Like defense is there's something strange in the alchemy. A lot of it's about energy, right, And you could just watch the Falcons last two weeks and they have played with incredible energy and athleticism and the speed that you know, you think of when they put this team together. But you can and you could tell that performance last

week against the Saints. The energy was so off the charts and they were having so much fun that it did seem to be the type of game that would either be our super Bowl and then they go back tomorrow or the start of maybe a big change. How the only problem here, Greg, the only reason why I don't it seems kind of pointless to really dig into the Falcons. When he was seven out of eight start the season. It's already too late. Yeah it is, but

I I I want to watch them. At least they'll be more watchable if I'm a Falcons fan, I'm going Okay, Raheem Morris has been a defensive coach his whole career, made his name that way, and you had him stuck coaching wide receivers for eight games. Now he fixed your defense.

Isn't that on the head coach for not having the coaches and the strangest Simon Eric Man Jennie did something like that too, But yeah, it's all brick on early downs, Raheem Morris on third downs, it's a lot, And yeah, I don't think the Quins gonna save his job almost no matter what happens. But what this did was it pointed out that the Panthers to me, are not a playoff team in a deep NFC because what do they have that special? This is not a special Ron Rivera defense.

And I think that that goes back to whether they keep Rivere or not. It's just an okay, Ron Rivera defense. It's fine. Is Kyle Allen morphin into Trevor Simeon before our eyes? Kyle Allen had four interceptions today and they were almost all just awful. Isn't like really really one of them, Yeah, and one of them Trufon made, if you watch the replay, made an incredible play that I give him a little credit. But the other three were just terrible and the rest of the game you kind

of moved the ball. Allen didn't made some nice plays, but that the interceptions were brutal. Christian McCaffrey nine yards away from two hundred on the day, but I'm assuming a lot of that came because it's eleven through the air screen pass action when the team is down and right. It was a lot of in the catch up mode, but no even at halftime when it was the game. You know, he just gets these quiet twelve yard catches and ten yard runs. But you can't make an offense

out of that. You can't make an MVP out of that. We talked about it downstairs, Greg and I did that. The problem with what makes it almost impossible to win MVP as running back is you can't really control the game. You can't what a quarterbright. It's beyond you talk about the narrative and Mark all the time with that, but it's also like the quarterbacks in control of the game in a way the running back never can be unless it's you know, Adrian Peterson two thousand, twelve or whatever,

like the special special season. He's gotta have twenty nine touches and three touchdowns and then they win the game. By I mean, he's got a chance to break the all time record for yards in a season, which is a pretty wild record, you know, the yards from scrimmage. He's still I think he's a little buying base. But that's a rough turning point for the Panthers. State it's over,

let's move on. Then let's move on again, and Winson throws it right to the Saints coming back Marcus Williams, the thirties, the twenty, the ten, the fun tock gon Marcus Williams. They're not gonna come a lot easier than that, dudes. Jamus Winston drops back to throw, sells it about ten yards over the head Mike Evans, and Marcus Williams brings it back for a score. Marcus Williams with his fourth interception. Loves the season. Uh, you gotta love the dependability of

Jamis Wison's zack stripe deuce. McAllister. Saints Radio Network Marcus Williams removed with any semblance of drama from the proceedings on Sunday and Tampa intercepting Jameis Winston fifty five yards to the host, clinching score Saints seventeen win over the Bucks West. Drew Brees threw three touchdowns in this game. The Saints um the game maybe got a little closer than they wanted, but this, on balance was a now

nice bounce back after last week's meltdown. Yeah, I think we can look back at that game against the Falcons, who are now the best team in the NFC South according to Gregent and say that was just a speed bump that they came right back. And and we've said that, you know, the first half of last year Drew Brees at the m v P starting with Thanksgiving of last year. Alvin Camara and Michael Thomas are the m v ps

of this offense. Camara comes back and he's the He's the focal point again, whereas last week in his first game back from injury, he was almost in the afterthought. He makes this offense go and he was a huge difference early in the game. His numbers don't look spectacular, but he was the one doing the work early. Michael Thomas cannot be stopped. He was he was in edible, and Jared Cook had another big play. His stat line doesn't look great, but I think Jared Cook is coming on.

Is that third option for them? And you know, Drew Brees a few more sideline creepers. The arm strength just isn't there, but he does enough even without the arm strength that this this team can still be a super Bowl contender. And you get through the NFC playoffs with Drew Brees at this point, I wonder that I just wonder that I have not I want to see more. First of all, just because he's barely played this year. I mean, this is what four games. I want to

see their offense with it more. They as long as they're functional. I mean, it's not like their passing game has been poor. Last week was a strange game with a lot of penalties in every you know aspect of their team struggling. I think the level of concern, at least for me, for Drew Brees is not that high. I don't think he's like a detriment to their team. Come on, no, I agree with that, I think, but he's just not I don't know if they're playing against

the Russell Wilson. Do I trust Drew Brees and at this point to keep up with Russell Wilson, I don't know about that. You don't think this guy can keep up in a shootout? I think in his building maybe. I guess it depends on how many how many bubble screens, and you know, I don't know. I think it's about as deep a race for the buys in a conference

that I can remember. Break it down well, at this point, you have the Seahawks, the forty Niners, the Saints, the Vikings, and the Packers, and all of them have eight wins, right and yeah, I mean Vikings I guess have three losses. Of that group, but that that's a pretty deep group of teams that all have a chance for the one seed or you know, you follow the five. That's a

big difference for the Saints. They have a huge advantage over the rest of that group because you can give them the NFC South right now, they're three games up. I don't think you're gonna lose that. I know it's redundant, and so I'll keep it quick. But the Jamis Winston experience, I feel like he legit costs them five games the season with his stakes alone. You know, we're killing Kyle Allen for throwing four picks, as we should, but this

happens over and over. How many four interception days did he have? He leads the league in these pick sixes. I mean, here's is killing you. He's got eighteen interceptions this year, the most through ten games in the season since Jake Cutler a decade ago. On the other hand, you watched this game. He was hit twelve times by the Saints defense. Um. The Buccaneers had their fewest rushing attempts and the forty four year franchise history, six for

thirteen by their running backs. Well, I ran the ball only eight times today total, um, and Jamie has had some plays where the offensive line blocked. Fine, he had plenty of time and he just threw warm burners. I mean. On the other hand, the interceptions, some of them were flukey. So I mean, but I think that's what interceptions are. When you throw enough of them, you're gonna have every different kind imaginable. The Winston eras come to an end,

I think naturally. You know, they didn't give him the extension. They let him play on the fifth year option, and it's just run its natural course. And the Bucks makes so much sense as one of the teams is that will get one of these veteran quarterbacks. They that just seems like it's with Bruce Arians there. He's gonna want his Carson Palmer esque veteran that he could bring in. I just see them as being a natural team rather

than going with a rookie. It could happen. I'm still just scratching my head about them giving their GM who you know, drafted Winston an extension before this season started. Well, Bruce Arians took the job because of Jamis Winston. He thought that this guy was a franchise quarterback in the NFC South. You know, we'll see if Drew Brees will probably come back, although you never know. At this point, he's over forty. Matt Ryan's not going anywhere in Atlanta.

But are the Panthers sure that they were still gonna just as speculation goes, let Cam Newton walk, is Kyle Allen the guy you're gonna trust, or they another team that will take one of these veteran quarterbacks that are gonna be floating around. Could be a very different looking division with some familiar faces. I'm not comfortable with the way we left at Drew Brees conversation. I don't Greg, I don't think you guys are gonna watch this and say, oh,

he's a problem, he's an issue. This was an awful game from him. I'm just saying I don't trust where his arm is right now. I don't think it's off fis game either. Dread around Breeze not is like being washed up, but maybe not being a true difference maker like he used to be. I wouldn't say dread. It's just more that you can tell when you used to watch something special, which is Saints offense reliably was, and now I just don't see it as special. I see

it as more limited, all right, Michael, Michael Thomas. Let's just he's special. Let's just mention it. He's up to nineties six catches. You know, we're a week and a half away from Thanksgiving. He has ninety six catches for eleven d and almost fifty yards right now. I mean his are gonna be He's on pace, but he seems to be careful. Michael. It's it's outrageous, and every team facing them knows that Michael Thomas is basically their only receiver.

What's the record one? I know it's let's less than that, isn't it's one two. Let's just stay rights. I'm just not sure that's why those events occurred, That's all I'll say. But that feels like a perfect spot to land. Let's move on. Oh before we move on, breaking news, we have a trade. We have a trade in our picks. Draft Mark Sessler sends Jets redskins to the old Zeuser

in exchange for this game. You're about to get a highlight from So a little bottom of the draft sixth rounder goes back from the you know, seventh rounder and maybe put a nice hunter and return something like that. Let's hit it. Here's your third down from the three yard line. Car's gonna throw it, steps up, you can't find anybody open. He's gonna run with it. Say on me speak, He's got open diving zone touch scowss. What a move by Derek Carr and second rushing such out ever,

Oh my, he went airborn. Everybody in a Raider front office holding their breath. Now, when your quarterback goes up in the air like that, we need that tune and Derek's so great awareness. You don't normally see this out of him taking off like that, but he wanted that touchdown so bad that he decided to go up on the one with nobody under him. I gotta gad he the helicopters baby has bread mustarder. Of course, I just looked it up. Eighty years old and turned eighty in May.

That dude is having fun. He moved to the desert and he's having some fun. Okay, as he should. I mean, eighty year olds. They like the desert. They like going out there. They're like going to Florida. They're like going to you know, pomp Springs, Florida. Not a desk. Are just throwing that out there, but I'm saying, like different places they like to go. Okay, Florida, the desert, it's

very moist there. Like some generalizing Derek Carr, you heard it, rush for a touchdown, through for another just enough production for the Raiders to get by the still winless Bungles. Seventeen ten Mark the Raiders moved to six and four and are Chief's loss away on Monday night from first place in the a f C West Hababa. Well, you cat, you looked over after we made this trade a number of times and asked, you know, what's going on with that,

uh Raiders Bengals game over there? It doesn't look too intriguing two interestry not exactly a barn ber and you're right, it wasn't. But if you're the Oakland Raiders and you're trying to recreate everything and you've got a really young team, you're gonna have to win a couple of games like this. And the Bengals played I thought, desperate football in the and it was one of the first games I thought

where they were like refusing to go away. They kept hanging around and a Josh Jackson fumble and a Derek Carr interception helped them to do that. But the difference in this one, I thought was, and it shouldn't be a surprise. With Cincinnati's rather hideous offensive line, Max Crosby four sacks, I've on the day for the Raiders and that's been overthrost two games. A consistent, a consistent thing for them, and that's good. And they really also down

the stretch. It was Darren Waller, it's Hunter went Renfro, It's Tyrolle Williams and two of those guys are rookies. They have the most productive rookie class in the NFL in terms of receiving yards, rushing yards, and touchdowns. And it shows up every week. And so there you go. Mike Mayhock did what ten years rental Network and everyone was like, oh, it's a splashy higher but it's easy on TV. Yeah, it's it's the different now that you're going to be responsible for these players. It could not

have gone any better. It really cannot have got better. I'd say that some team should say grab Chris Wesley is a GM, because that's there's there's a high part. Even better, Take Daniel Jeremiah off our hands. And they've tried, the Bucks tried before they gave that time. Maybe it's time for a new challenge. Westling. Just offer him a

lot of money leverage that baby. Yeah, I mean, as Musburger says, baby, it's weird because Crosby is clearly better as a rookie as a fourth round pick than Cleveland Furrel is, you know, the number four overall pick. Furrels really struggled two and so last week, you know, had had a better game, but it was really telling Paul Gunther, their coordinator. And this was a month ago. This was during the London game, more than a month ago. They asked him, you know, how are you doing? You know,

how are you holding up? Not a lot of talent on this defense. He said, yeah, we don't have any Pro bowlers right now, but we've got a future one and that's Max Crosby. And it's pretty interesting that five games into Crosby's career, he's saying, that's the guy we're building around, a fourth round demon who just shows up every game. Are we to the point now I see Derek Carr went nine. No more caveats, no more reservations. We just all believe that Derek car is from now on.

He's he's efficient in this offense. But I wouldn't go that far. He kind of like what Jared Goff was before this season, like a decent to good quarterback in a great offense for him. Yeah, I think I'm with Greg though where I'm not ready to I want to still see more. But he opened eleven of eleven. At one point he was fourteen for fourteen. After they had scored another touchdown, he ran one in. And he's not making killer mistakes and I think he's healthy. He wasn't.

He has been through a lot on the injury front. He had a back injury, you know, which we we never know what that feels like. Gikianic people chasing you and tackling to the ground. Probably not great. Little little concerning though, this is this team the rate of analysis. We were excited to watch him because they've been so efficient on offense five point one yards per play. Last week was one of the worst offensive games against the

Chargers and then seventeen points against the Bengals. They've come back to earth a little bit on offense. Uh Dr Chow is gonna be nervous, Mark after that breakdown, coming first corner, coming for the corner, the Chow corner. Like I said, I call him all the time. He does not necessarily answer the phone. I know, well, so that you know he's got that old rotary phone. That's just get a busy signal real quick. Was Ryan Finn as

bad as his numbers? I get, you know, It's like I'm the last person that should comment on like Benching Andy Dalton at this point. But I don't understand what the overall mission is. I just don't get what the mission is because there's there's just not much that you're gonna get from this type of player that's any different than they reduced a version of Andy Dalness some degree.

Pretty have our road to Greatness segment. We should have a mission to Nowhere statement segment with just the Bengals every week. I don't know if it's a help to their head coach either, So all right, let's close it out with the other side of that trade. Blockbuster in the newsroom. Donald in the shotgun belts who was right? Griffin type right, three receivers left, Donald back to pro looks left. Hastime fires one down the left sideline for Crowder. He's got it hard on and he's in. That's a

Jit touchdown. Jamison Crowder comes back to his old team and for the third straight Dame Crowder is able to score Sam Donald or the fourth touchdown US in the game. That's a career high. Bob was shoosing with the call for the Jets Radio network. Sam Donald slaying ghosts in d C. Four touchdown passes, including that pretty twenty nine yard or some really nice touch on some of his passes, you guys will see or you won't, depending on if you've watched this game on the old game Pass, Jets

seventeen win over the moribund Washington Redskins. Two wins in a row for the Jets, who blew out an opponent three days after Christopher Johnson publicly announced that Adam Gates want to be one and done in Gotham and this is what Gaze has. Like I said on Thursday, I didn't put too much stock into Johnson's statement that Gaze will definitely be back in because what if they completely go in the tank for the rest of the season.

It's gonna be a much harder call and a much harder sell to your fan base, uh, in that situation. But you know, after a game him like today, you start to think, Okay, maybe they can go into the offseason with a little bit of hope and excitement, because if you recall last December, Donald's hot finish is part of the reason why there was a lot of expectations around the Jets entering this season. And for the second straight week, he's really um, he's really showing some growth

and progress. And he had one more turnover today which was a bad interception, So it wasn't a perfect game, but you take that out of the mix, and he really has kind of recovered from that. Really one to point, well, it was one to three punch account the motto, and then the game against the Patriots, the ghost game, and then uh Jack the Jags game back to back where he just was having trouble protecting the ball, wasn't getting any um, he wasn't getting any help from his offensive line.

But he seems to be playing with some confidence and that's really good to see. So Donald was very good in this game. And the Redskins are very very hand. This is a very bad Washington team. How did Haskins look? Haskins, I mean, I'll give him credit for this. He had one very pretty deep all that showed, um his arm strength, that all the arm you want, Yeah it and it went for a completion, but I got called back on a holding penalty. In the fourth quarter, they scored two

touchdowns and garbage time. It was up to thirty four three before they scored, but they hadn't scored a touchdown at sixteen quarters sixteen quarters before those two garbage time scores. In general, um, and this is never a popular sentiment in this room. And I understand that he's not maybe a guy that you ever want to root for, but Greg Daniels is Greg Williams has done a really good

job with his Jets defense. They're one of the best teams in the league against the run, and they have such a talent deficiency in their secondary and yet on a near, you know, weekly basis, they are competitive on defense and they I think confused Haskins quite a bit in this game. So Haskins here, that's good to hear. I don't care cares about the Patriots, Patriots winning, upsetting. Just give me my favorite team winning, and I'm a okay on a Sunday. They're on a winning street right now,

are you okay? Give a give a hack, give a good hack. I think you can see why I traded this game away, and it even happened minutes into the game, because this is your time to shine, Dan, and I'm glad that they went your way today. Darnald through an awesome passed right on the gate to Daniel Brown the tight end. Two things I found quizzical. One when they ran the ball to Levy on Bell on third and eleven. Why there's just no reason to do that in a

situation they were. Secondly though, Secondly though, explain to me, unless I saw this wrong, why is Darwell Loggins carrying around the challenge flags for Adam Gates. Yeah he does, but explain to me what the what it's He said he likes to have someone else holding it. That's all I can so that to me, it feels like start like part of the little works to Adham Gaze that like because it in Miami, to the whole the whole time he was a Dolphins coach. He never he carried

his own. He knows more than I do, but it just seems like a like a middleman, unnecessary middleman. Do you want to go back to that third and eleven draw and the second now? No, no, I do not, But it well, it was, it was, It was. It was the fourth quarter. It was a total hot mess. They don't need to do that. No, I mean, that was a hard call. I thought it was earlier than that. It was the second quarter, was in the second quarter.

But my point, my point is it's been such a before entering last week, the Jets ravaging twelve points a game on offense, there is some real growth. You throw out that was a bad play call, but there's been some real growth the last two weeks, and that's what that's what you need. You need to see positivity on that offense. But and on the other side, this was a moment that the Washington Post wrote about and thought

it was the lowest moment that the Redskins have hit. Yeah, Thomas Boswell, who was kind of the and I get it though it's half the stadium's half empty. There was a chant at one team at one time to sell the team, but it just sort of died out because there's there's no one there. There where tickets available in the Lower Bowl, which our friend Will Blackman, you know, tweeted out before the game for like ten fifteen bucks in twelfth row NFL game, and no, no one's going

to it. And this is one of the the franchises in the NFL. This is a team that won three Super Bowls, that had if a tradition that goes you know back, and it hasn't all It's been ugly a lot of the time too, if you go go way back with it. But they have a long tradition and they're they're they're dying in Washington. I mean that city is given up on them. They are there behind. You know, they're the fourth or fifth team in Washington right now,

which is crazy to think about. A who some of the other our teams are there, but who you know that the Redskins. When we talk about the fan basis that been through a lot of pain, Dan like, the Redskins need to be their fans have been through so much it's insane, Lions, Browns. Yet the Redskins are right, it's gotten a lot worse. I feel like in the last several years where it's the hope is just starting to just dissipate for them. Right now, I feel like

they are at their lowest point. There was a little story, you know, within that column he mentions, how you know, the kick returner at one point turns around. He tries to get the fans to get up, and they just ignore him, and then eventually like three people stand up, and that's that's where they're at A long time wild I mean, it's been since r G three's knee injury. It's just been well. They got to the playoffs once with Cousins. They've made the playoffs a couple of times

a century. But I would put them and I think the win loss record would be there among the worst teams certainly since the turnout of with with a low hope quotient because of who's running the team right now, right and you haven't seen enough. Haskins has only started three games, but it's been pretty shaky. West. You're a historian, you'll want to know this. Jamal Adams became only the second defensive back in the past ten years is to

record three sacks in a game. Wyle I saw that he has the same number of sacks as Aaron Donald this year, and he's got six. He can break the outtime records for defense of He was not. But that was before before they dangled into trade talks and became Superman, before last week when he stuffed the box school and today haven't exploded. All right, that that's that for that game. Let us now get into it to Sunday night. And now GOP wants to go no huddle from the five

first goal with Malcolm Brown behind him. They give to Brown straight ahead. He charges in for six clucks down a three one to go in regulation. The Rams take it back to a two store league. Even our old buddy J. B. Long seems just relieved that Malcolm Brown found that end zone to put some distance between the Rams and the lowly Chicago Bears. Yes, a seventeen seven gonna win for the home team at the Los Angeles

Memorial Colisseum, a game that Mark Sessler will be remembered. Well, I don't know if we will be remembered as a w for the Rams and they move on, uh and for the Bears. That what people will be talking about. With three minutes to play, Chase Daniel entered. Mitch Drobinsky exited. Officially, it was listed as a hip injury, but that's only officially. Is this the beginning of the end? That's that's the talking point for a lot of people coming out of

Sunday night football. At the beginning of the end for Mitch Drabinsky has been beginning for a while. I don't think that something suddenly turned tonight because it wasn't like a low point Mitch Robinsky game. In general, the offense is plagued with issues. They have not had a running game around him for weeks and weeks. There are drops happening by wide receivers. The environment around Miss Robinsky is not optimal. And I I do if if for some reason we found out the injury. He is not nearly

as serious as as or at all. The timing of the switch is something that just creates a week's worth of questions for your team. When you didn't insert that, You didn't insert a first round quarterback that's been on the bench. You inserted Chase Daniel, who is not going to hold anyone off. So it just creates issues for the Bears. We'll see who gets bench for three minutes to play. That's what I mean. The timing is altho. It would have the benching would have happened earlier if

the Rams had gotten off the field. I think the context is Mitch Drabinsky and look, I don't doubt that he's playing through an injury. They said he was on some level, But the reality is in his previous five drives three and out, three and out one first down, that a punt three and out when they punted the ball. They had been going back and forth punt fest. Is a three point game, there's eight minutes to go. You assume that's when he makes the decision to make a change.

So that's thinking, I can go win this game. Our season is hanging on a thread, and I trust Chase Daniel more right now than Mitchell Robinsky. Now that bears defense, it should be mentioned, does what they've done in some big spots this year, which is give up a touchdown drive at the absolute worst time. You can't kill them because they forced punts, they forced two takeaways in the

first quarter, and the offense didn't do anything. But it's it's kind of a script we've seen for a while, and I've been waiting to see Chase Daniel for a while because I think they're just saying this is not our guy. Drabinsky. What a deflating season for that organization.

I think the most deflating season of any organization. To go from Super Bowl contender, you give up the farm from for Khalil Mack, you have the coach of the Year, a finalist for Executive of the Year, and now ten months later, you might have to start all over at quarterback.

You might have to start all over at coach, you might have to start all over at GM and the Raiders on your first round pick forgot about which makes them we That's a good point West and I was I talked about earlier about which teams in the NFC South perhaps would be um teams you look at that might get one of these many veteran quarterbacks on the market. The Bears, especially without a first Tom pick, they might be looking for a stop gap and Andy Dalton type

player or Andy Dalton himself. Who knows. But it's now becoming increasingly clear. And we're doing this obviously Sunday night, twenty minutes after the guy went to the bench, so we'll get a clear picture of what's going around around that team. But just from where we are now, it certainly seems like this is the first real tangible step towards a separation of Trabinsky and the Bears. And give

the Rams defense credit. They did what you need to do against a bad offense, and that's just totally hold them down because the Rams offense wasn't much better for most of the game. But Golf and Gurly made enough plays in this game. Golf had about two or three nice throws. He only had six total in the first half, and you got the win. If you're a Rams like you don't care how you're getting wins these days. They are in the mix, and I don't totally rule them

out because their defense is good. And if you were a total homer. You could say the old line made some big steps today. They blocked well for Todd Gurley, and they protected well for Jared Goff. You just haven't seen any games like that out of the Rams. But that's like picking the most positive things in a pretty

right I just say, you don't rest for long. I mean, we were looking at the schedule coming into this recap here Ravens next week, if you're the Rams at the Cardinals, which is no, this is not last year and it's not Week three, this is not an easy team to knock out Seahawks, Cowboys, forty Niners and the Cardinals. Again, if the Rams are are even alive for a playoff berth in Week seventeen, the negative things that I feel about them right now will have washed away because they

will have earned that big time. Their defense has not allowed more than ten points in a game, and over five weeks. It's a really good defense, and they have one of their best run defenses in the history of their franchise. It's the best Wade Phillips defense in the three years. It's it's ironic because it's coming with obviously the worst offense. But it's crazy to look at the Bears box score. Though they ran seventy four plays, not one of them went for twenty yards. That's stuff to

do in the NFL. Seventy four play is they held the ball quite a bit. And and this was a typical Rabisky game and that okay, it wasn't his worst game, but he was in decisive There were throws in the first half. War he's always a beat late, you know, he has guys open and he's just kind of a beat late. He has to see it and then the play isn't there anymore. And Jalen Ramsey especially close. One quick thing this week before we fly off on the

Rams defense, I get they are playing well. That the ten point thing happened against the Bengals, Steelers and Bears. It's just you couldn't line up a better option for that to happen. Todd Gurley nearly gets his first one yard game. I was my big takeaway if you're looking for positives beyond the defense for the Rams is a killer. I mean, a team that really needed a big play

to get excited about. They get the fifty one yard touchdown from Goff to Reynolds in the fourth quarter, wiped out by a really a clumsy illegal procedure with Whitworth being uncovered at the left tackle position. Uh. And then what how do they respond to set of going into a shell? They go six plays and fifty four yards down the field to get that touchdown back seventeen seven. So they are far off. It was around this time last year that they won fifty three or whatever against

the Chiefs. It's crazy how far we've come uh since then. And they have a lot of work to do. But they're six and four. That's in the NFC. That's not a great place to be, especially with that schedule. But they have a chance to save this things to remember, you know, I said earlier in the pocket Cardinals, that's a great match up anytime you have it. To the schedule makers, we don't need another Bear's Rams Sunday Night special next year. You know, let's let's not make this

a tradition. You were warned. All right, Um, there you go. That's the Sunday Night recap. UH. Two quick things. Number one, The reason you're hearing this podcast right now is that we put it out there, not a challenge to demand uh ten thousand followers on our Instagram account. The a t N podcast, we hit it. We hit it this weekend. Eric, I know you were very excited to see that, as were we, as all is the fans of this podcast stepped up and we love you. We did not buy

followers like some people do on Instagram. Just throwing that out there, because you know, I don't have the money or the budget. They're legit, real people, most of them from are you talking about, I don't know. Plenty of people do that, don't they, Erica, I don't know. I think like some people with thousands and thousands sometimes the bought Yeah, and as a gift, as a gift to all these um listeners and and the people that love the video content that we put up often on the

Instagram handle. Let's take it back with a little instant replay of West and the Hot Boy Jeans. Let's take a look at this is for video h Fans of the show roll it la. But I feel like I'm in a El Doctorro novel, a good work by Ryan Bartlett. Erica Tampos in the whole team back there, West, you are quite a tease. Thank you. That's quite a compliment. We'll be back on Tuesday. We'll recap the Monday night football game that closes out Week eleven and then we

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